One time I decided to venture out to an off-road park alone. I met with the owner and explained I just picked up a 2000 4runner and wanted to explore the stock limits, he was super nice and just said have a go at it. He did however explain he was very busy setting up courses for an off-road club to come and try that afternoon, I assured him I wouldnt push it too hard as I was alone anyway and I do not have a winch. Well after going through the property on level 1 trails, I somehow found myself cobble crawling up creeks, and bogging in the forest to which I decided to follow a sign around a tree and PLOPPED my whole body down to the frame into a truck sized bog hole. I had to go do the whole walk of shame across the entire property, owner watched me walk across the field the whole way. Full smiles when I finally get to him, he already knows he said. Such a nice guy, both of us hopped into his Carburated Chevy K20 on 40" tires, explained how his truck belonged to a friend who died and it was one of the things he remembers him by and some war stories from Vietnam. It was pitiful how easy it was for a 85' K20 to pull my "small" 4wd out. The guy's name was Joe he told me and welcomed me back anytime if I wanna get stuck again hahha. Please get out there and enjoy these types of folks while they are here.. He converted his whole personal property and fought with gov. bodies to establish the park; whole expeirance and getting completely stuck 10/10, wish I had a winch but at the same time I would have never met Joe.
During the recent floods in northern NSW I managed to get my ute stuck worse than it's ever been... in my front yard.. with a whole street of spectators. The flood water had made the grass softer than first thought and I was COMPLETELY stuck. Eventually a legend came along in his 79 and winched me out. Having my own winch definitely would of saved my ego that day!
When I first moved to my current house, I parked my loaded 24ft caravan on the back lawn, being used to hard ground. Unfortunately, after a few hours, it had sunk down to the spring shackles. The ground was mush, just under the surface, as I found out. I had my ranger in 4WD, with the diff lock on, and was still struggling to pull out the caravan, and made a huge mess of the lawn while doing it. If I had been able to winch pull, then I'd likely not have needed to spend weeks fixing the lawn. Neighbours must have been laughing at me.
LOL, I did the same thing when I brought my Patrol and camper trailer to my new house. I did not realise that the entire backyard was mush and managed to bog both badly enough that I ended up just leaving them both there for 3 months until the yard dried out. Fortunately normal access was from the front driveway so they were not in the way!
@@rlaxton666 Unfortunately, here, things never dry out; that was during summer. I needed somewhere I could get it fairly flat, as we were going to need it while doing renovations. Sinking into the mud wasn't as flat as I'd hoped.
@@Anachroschism Fortunately I don't live in a swamp. Interestingly, in the 10 years after I moved in, the backyard, while flooded many times, has never been as boggy. I have done more damage to 4WDs in my own driveways than anywhere else, strangely. At a previous bush property I managed to slide off the driveway and get stuck between two trees.
A few weeks ago I had an electrical issue with my winch, causing the terminals to get extremely hot, melt and nearly catch fire. We disconnected everything to ensure it was safe but then obviously left winch-less for the remainder of the trip on the tracks at Lithgow, having many instances where the winch would have been used but couldn't... Had to resort to snatching instead where it was often a challenge to get a vehicle in front where it was needed. I really felt the struggle of not having a winch and am now on the hunt for a new one, and this Drive Tech one would suit me perfectly!
Definitely could have used a winch when we had three fourbies stuck axle deep in a single file line with an incoming tide at 11pm! We went down for a sunset BBQ and ended up using and loosing multiple pairs of max tracks and treds when a simple winch could’ve got us out :(
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On Graham’s recommendation I purchased a Isuzu dmax for that perfect daily and tourer combination late last year. With minimal modifications under my belt, wheels, bullbar and free wheel hubs I hit the tracks with the boys for a weekend. The place we visited was a our and back track type setup where you explored downhill for a while and to return you had to make your way back up hill. Over confident with my abilities as I had it easy downhill I opted to be lead vehicle on the return journey. With 500 metres left to go I had a large rock slope and trench that I had to get up, and just couldn’t pass the obstacle slowly under control. Only missing by about a metre each time. A winch would have easily given me the last metre I would have needed to pass the rock slope. Over confident in my cars capability (thanks Graham!) my driving ability and Not wanting to be the butt of all jokes at the campsite later I opted the full send it attitude, good bye front left CV. After 10 maxtrax and packing like crazy for the next 500m with assistance from the boys I limped the car back to camp. I owed too many beers and wore the jokes all night. I winch could have saved me the torture. Save me from this happening again Jocko
Took the kids and the dog out for a day trip to julimar state forest in the 90 series prado thinking we'd have a BBQ lunch and explore some tracks. After being out most of the day and getting carried away with following different tracks I figured it would be easier and quicker to keep going and come out the other side of the forest. Boy was I wrong...... We came to a section of the track that looked impassible due to the mud so decided to turn around and try a different way. As I backed the car up off the track to turn around and chucked it in drive I felt the rear wheels sink in and the hard top crust had broken and revealed a muddy cesspool! Long storey shorter, ended up having to walk an hour through the bush to higher ground to get phone reception to call a mate. By this stage it's dark and cold and the kids and dog were looking at me like, ("how could you do this to me"). About 2 hours later he arrives and snatches us out. Talk about a relief! 5 min up the track though the ground was getting wetter and wetter and my mate got stuck so I snatched him out backwards. Then another 5 min later we both got stuck down to the chassis! We tried everything but the mud was like cement! He ended up contacting one of his mates and we awaited his arrival. Just as we thought he was a no show 3am ticked over and we were half asleep in the cars when we saw the headlights through the forest and he'd arrived with the cavalry, wahoo! All I was thinking was if I just had a winch I would have been out of the first bog in 5 min and on my way!
The best time I could've used a winch is when I was at stockton lake, Collie. Thought a puddle looked doable... turns out it wasn't! My mate quickly turned around to snatch me out which nearly broke his 4wd due to how boggy the mud at the bottom of the "puddle" was. Ended up getting it out, snapped off my custom plate which sunk into the mud and was lost forever AND the car was written off! Now have just bought my dad's Ford Ranger and taken it under my wing to upgrade to an awesome rig so a winch and recovery set would be amazing so I don't have another written off 4WD!!! Love your videos guys keep up the amazing work :)
DEFINITELY COULD HAVE (Ha Ha) used when my friends Grand Vitara slipped into a washout and was teetering on the verge of rolling. If he had any more Go he would have been on his roof. I finally got him back on his wheels after using a sketchy RATCHET WINCH! I was praying that it didn't snap with each stroke ever tightening. Some how he didn't stop laughing or smiling through the whole experience as he sat clinging to his door. Lessons learnt that day :)
@@thatcargirl2146 XD only rated to pull 700kg but it has a breaking force of 3000kg so it was safe I would hope. Would not have liked if I had to reset the winch tho.
Awesome and informative video I shared it to all my 4wd groups here in Trinidad 🇹🇹. A winch would of been handy when I parked in a grassy slope near the beach, rain fell and I slid straight down and with my almost bald tires I ended up doing mad 4wd burnouts instead 😀
Should of had a winch, a few years ago I was driving a local beach in far north Qld there was a cyclone buzzing along the coast out from where we were, l crossed a small creek mouth but just as I got halfway across my clutch decided to slip (it burnt out ) on me stopping me in my tracks the tide was starting to come back in and the waves were bloody huge, if I had a winch I could of saved the rig, all I could do was tie it up to a tree and walk out to get help when I finally got back to my rig hours later it was facing out to sea and buried up to the windows in sand we got her out and towed it home, hosed it out and got it going again, bloody pummel stones where in every nock and cranny even in the ceiling light, a month later we did the Fraser island run in the old girl and got it bogged at Eli creek but a least there was help on hand the old Hilux gave up about 12 months later died of cancer should have had a winch
I'm having to do most of my wheeling by myself, often getting stuck. Thankfully always been able to get unstuck, but i know the day's gonna come where I'll really be stuck. That tool will definitely keep me out of trouble 🤙👍
Wrong. You would get into more trouble than ever. It's just that you would have a pretty fair chance of getting yourself out of trouble again so you can go find more trouble 😜
As soon as a got my ps I went on a camping trip with the boys. We went down this sketchy as old fire trail which the floods had completely eroded. I made it down fine ish and we all had a great night, anyway it pissed down all through the night and when it had come to leave I hand to turn around, and the only spot I could turn around was this boggy little corner. I ended up getting completely stuck, even after digging out a track and lining it with sticks and bark for traction. I thought I was going to have to leave my Ute there until it dried out. But thankfully I guy up the road came and pulled me out in a triton with a spear wheel on none the less. I was shocked he made it out. Essentially I wish I had a winch on me because it would have made that whole situation a lot easier and less stressful
Jock I'm going to be real, I have only just gotten my first car, a 2004 lux, and haven't needed to do a recovery as of yet, which wouldn't have mattered because I don't have any gear, bit Broke after the Toyota tax, but I sure plan on doing some good tracks, Yalwal is local, so if yous could help me out it would be much appreciated, love the content👍
Was at the pub one night for nans birthday, after an absolute ripper parmi, about to cut a cheese cake we hear this massive crash. A bloke in a 2.8L lux has just backed into the river off a bit of eroded bank abt half a metre tall. Anyways we had a couple utes there to winch him out without any major damage. Thought that was a yarn to share but anywyas im a 16yr old that just bought my first Ute 02 Rodeo and would bloody froth a winch to go out for a fourbie, I live abt an hour away and would love to tackle the Coffs tracks you boys did a while ago on the channel
Went driving up the forest not far from the farm in an ln106 single cab with only 1 car and while driving back from the tracks after a big rain we tried to go around a bog on the clay road but when only 1 wheel made it up the small slippery gutter the rest slid along and before we new it we were in it. we were there till 10.30 and only got out with logs because no maxx traxx either. very under prepared. could use this on the new hzj75 build
Definitely could of used a winch when I decided to go camping by my self and got bogged. After 22 hours with my swag set up in the middle on the track and a long walk looking for help. Found a few blokes with a winch and an hours later I was free 🥴
Would’ve been handy after convincing my girlfriends father to come along to a track after saying I’d be able to do it and finding out that we had to backtrack out as we couldn’t get up a steep slippery incline! Was pretty disappointing as it was the fist time I had taken him 4wding
I desperately needed an electric winch when I got our MU-X stuck up a slippery hill in the Snowy Mountains. We took a wrong turn, ignored the danger / turn back signs and sure enough it started raining and we got stuck up a long steep hill. We were on our own and hadn't seen a car for almost 2 days. We were lost and badly stuck. We ended up spending almost 6 hours of hand winching to move the vehicle forwards (up-hill), backwards (down-hill) and even 180 degrees to turn it around on the track. As if the punishment of getting stuck in the middle of nowhere was bad enough, 6 hours of hand winching helped reinforce our bad decision. Whilst I'm glad we had the hand winch, we still don't have an electric winch and could definitely do with one!
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A winch would have been heaps handy when me and my mate were out 4wding in the watos we found this bog hole it looked like a normal road but it wasn’t he drove in a bang he was gone neither of us had a winch we tried to snatch but it snap and broke his Windshield and had to wait 4 hours for a tow truck
Well I'm not picking up my new D-Max for a few months. The time I wish I'd had a winch, the day I pick it up. Then hopefully I never have a better/worse answer for a question like this.
Mate, I drive an Ln167 with ifs, I get stuck every second Sunday 😑 just bought a winch mount for my TJM bar a new winch would be handy to fit into it 💪🏽
hooly dooly do I have a story for you boys. picture this Vic high country, July 2019, bright red triton and a couple stock cruisers wet as a the pissa floor in a brothel. We come across these closed road signs and the adventure-seeking blokes we were decided to drive around them. the first 2km of this track was beautiful not even me driveway was this glorious wasn't a pothole, stick, rock, or stump in sight unusual for victoria but no complaints, anyway the ol' red bitsashitty come around the corner and there was this rock pretty sure it was the rock that fell out the sky and killed the dinosaurs. The Uluru himself would've been scared of this big bastard but being the wannabe F1 driver I am I drifted around this thing scraping the tub on the nearby native floora leaving me pinned against a rock and a hard place. with me dacks packed seeking some bog roll I jumped out and realised there's the grand canyon of the VIC high country next to me. As I was walking around the side of the shitbox Mitsubishi calls a triton she started to slide, slide like the shit slid out of me arse just prior. the boys saw the old girl slide and swiftly come to assist with two 60kg blokes holding me pride and joy on this cliff I jumped back in the cockpit and gave her hell, as you could imagine it sounded awesome but did pretty close to f**k all. we were there for hours using stumps, sticks, blokes and all 80 horney ponies the old girl had, it was no use so we tired her up to the nearest tree and let her sit for the night. a few angry cans and some black fishes were consumed that night and a game plan was developed. we would get one of the Toyotas and wrap the snatch around a tree which will pull the arse end towards the rock it worked said the bluey it was like he was surprised that the plan a few cockys put together on the piss worked. anyway with all 4s on the track we slowly dragged her out backwards we thought it was over but then two cruisers had to execute a 43 point turn to get facing the other way so an hour later we were on our way back to the main road as we came back down the track we put the close road signs back on the road. and now just imagine how much easier this shit show would've been if I had one of those big flash turny things that gets ya unbogged. would've just hooked her up to the tree in front and slowly inched her around the rock and we would've been outta there in a quick jiffy. anyway long story short I need one of those spinny things on the front of ol red. thanks for listening boys and girls.
Would’ve been great to have a winch when I bogged my troopy in some soft sand in the Inland tracks over on Moreton island, must’ve been the extra weight from the dream catcher and 19 surfboards on the roof hey guys! 😂🤣
Winch would've come in mighty handy quite a few times, I'll tell you about the 2 of them! I was having a play in some small dips that had filled with water on a cleared grass area and all was well and fun, all of a sudden I flexed out and dug myself a hole, was in quite a remote area, so me and my then pregnant partner had to walk about 3km in the rain to get phone signal (that I had to climb a sign for) to ring for help, but to no avail, help had to come back with a 4wd tractor to drag me out after trying with their 2010 hilux. Next was a time I was gathering firewood, been to through these same uphill ruts 100 times without any major issues, this one day it had been raining and could not get up no matter how hard I tried, anyway, hit it so hard and fast I bounced out of the rut and into a never ending soft spot, and boy oh boy was I stuck! The recovery car that I called to come winch me out had to anchor himself to a tree! Anyways hope someone gets a laugh from these to experiences, lots more to tell but couldn't narrow it down to one! Keep safe everyone!
Thinking back, definitely could have used a winch a few days after i got my P's. My group of mates were all so keen to go out and 4wd but at the time i had the only capable 4wd rig, so not thinking that the tracks would be as soft as they were we set out and managed to get ourselves stuck axle deep in soft sand (winch woulda been handy as there were trees on either sides of the track). We ended up spending the next 2.5 hours on hands and knees with a single shovel digging a path out for the rig until she finally made it to some more hard track. It was a pain but you gotta do what you gotta do with what you got i suppose :)
I was out in my local scrub and got real bogged, spent the next 3 hrs trying to get this suzuki to try and snatch me out (big fail), had to get a local farmer with his tractor. I even returned a box of beer to him the next day.
I was up double island with some mates goofing around in the soft stuff and when we were going back to our campsite I tried to be cool and go on the very soft stuff right next to camp was going good till it didn’t. I got bogged and decided i was gonna call it a park for few hours till my mates snatched me out.
Great video guys will certainly come handy for us all but the time we could of needed a winch was when my dad was crossing the river with his hilux but then we must of got a big surge of water and then draged him down the river but dad managed to stop the car but the water kept on rising and then the water came up to the windows and long story short we pulled it out and then when we got it on dry land since its a Toyota hilux it started up first go and running perfectly but the NRMA said that it want be to safe on the road because the wiring could get a mold or something but that is when we could of needed a good winch..
On my uncle farm he has a large sand and clay hole witch was dug to bild one of the main roads neer the region and every time it rains the hole normaly has a fear bit of water in it and being a mix of sand and clay it makes a extremely sticky mud. We went to the hole and i wanted do go through the one bog hole but as i got about three quarters the way through i drove into an extremely deep part of the hole and got stuk with the mud at the botom of my window on the one side and halfway up my door on the other side it would have been a easyer recovery if i could winch forward as ther was a tree not to far away and the hill to get out on the front of the hole is mutch les steep than on the side i enterd from but because i dident have a winch my uncle had to winch from behind and me being the heaviest truk my uncle only drag himself we later on phone a family friend witch linked up with my uncle and bouth of them pulling we started to move my truck until my uncles which line snaped we did not have any straps to try and pull luckily a local farmer said we can lend an big chain and his tractor on the first pull we broke the chain in in half and after dubbeling the chain and our family friend also helping to pull we maniged to get my truck free but a half of the day was wasted and it started geting dark so we had to go back home as it was about 2 hours drive back home. I whould have loved a winch at that time but we had some fun and are still laughing about that day. Love your videos keep them coming
A winch and some god recovery gear could have been helpful when me and the old man got the farm ute bogged. But then not one but two tractors bogged trying to just get one ute out. A winch and some good recovery gear could haves saved us half a day 😂
When I got called out by a couple of mates to pull the out when they where stuck in the bush. Got there 1 car stuck down to chassis and another 2 bogged. Snapped two snap straps try to pull them out got one out than got bogged straight after along with the car I just pulled out than had to wait for an hour for mate with a winch to come pull all of us out
A winch would have been good the last time I got bogged. I went for a snatch recovery but got dragged into a bog hole after I pulled the other car out of its hole as it acted like an anchor. I had heaps of fun digging my Might 90 Prado out but I could have avoided it if I had a winch!
could have really done with a winch when we got stuck on the the beach with an incoming tide could have winched off many different vehicles until someone was brave enough to snatch us out
A winch would have been super handy this one time when we loaded up all the lads, a couple of surfboards and a carton and headed off on a spontaneous surf trip down to 3 bears! (Graham will know all about this track! Long story short, one wrong turn and the old work ute fell off the side of the track and down the cliff face (about a 10ft drop) 2 blown front tyres and no winch, we weren’t going anywhere fast. 3 days later, the carton of beers long gone, a lot of walking through the bush, a visit from the local ranger, police and every surfer passing though we managed to track down a bloke with a 6 wheeler ex army truck with a crane of the back to skull drag the old work ute up the cliff! Safe to say the boss wasn’t too happy about the state of the work ute on Monday! 😂
I followed my dad in getting a navara last October. we went out about a week after I bought it and didn't really know much about offroading, next thing you know we are both sitting on our diffs in thick mud which took about 5 hours and 7 other vehicles to pull us out 😂, a winch plus much more wouldve been very handy that day
Gday Jocko, the day I was out the back of Orbost in Victoria I really needed a winch, simply river crossing in water around 400mm deep there was a log I didn’t see, the front went over no problem but the spring hangers hit and by the time I went to go backwards it was show over, well a phone call to a mate with a winch and 3hr wait I got out, great video as always mate. Cheers
I got the rig stuck and I ended up using an 1800's style winch which consisted of a rope tied around a rock with three guys manually rolling the rock. Imagine if I had a Drivetech 12,000 pound winch, a three-day recovery would have been a three-minute recovery!
I would have loved to have this winch when I was high centered by myself on my way to a friend's place for wheeling, this was back in 2021 on a fire break.
On one of my first adventures, I was with my friends driving through a national forest in the snow, when we decided to turn around. Our 4runner immediately sunk into the powdery snow up to the frame and we spent the next two hours digging the 4runner out....
A winch would’ve been perfect for when I went for one of the first trips in my new patrol and got stuck in a bog hole for a few hours😂 ended up having to walk ages to get service so I could call dad to come recover me in the middle of the night! All my friends cars were too light and not powerful enough to get me out
A winch could’ve come in handy when we were on the farm once and the ute got stuck in a bog hole in the arvo and we couldn’t get out by snatching with one car so we had three cars snatching at the same time and was very unsafe
A winch definitely may have helped when I had to try recover a mates ute from a very solid bog hole. Some other guys had already ripped off the front factory recovery points trying to get him out so all I could do was snatch from the rear. Broke the strap at both ends. Had to come back the next day and the ute had to be lifted out with an excavator. So maybe a winch wouldn't have done it, but would've saved me from some solid whiplash.
Hi there. I am in love with 4 wheel driving but unfortunately I don’t have a winch yet. I would love to be able to win this winch. The main thing I would use it for would be to pull trees down in my backyard, go through deeper bog holes while on trips as I’ll know I’ll be able to be recovered by the winch!
Definitely could of done with one Easter morning on the beach with my 5 year old daughter I looked backwards to make sure she was alright just as I did I drove through a wash out and ended up hung up up in the sand dunes by our self no one around 5 hours on my hands and knees wow what a morning cheers buddy keep up the great work I love the show
Could've definetly used a winch when me and my mates all got stuck when there were 3 days till the track closed, wasn't nice and had to rush a lot. Would be handy to have one
I live in Lismore NSW and with the amount of water still around after the flood I’ve been bogged more times on my own property in the last 2 months than I have been in the last 5 years of 4wding trips. A winch would’ve saved me on at least 4 occasions recently, I’ve never seen the ground as wet as it is now. Side note, love the content lads. Definitely been a massive highlight lately everytime a new 4wd 24/7 vid drops!
On one of my first trips I ended up helping out several vehicles that were stuck in the sand. At the time the only recovery gear I had was a shovel. Long story short, we got them all out and had a good workout too. A winch or recovery rope woulda helped heaps.
a winch could have made my life easier when I used my Ranger T6 to pull out 2 boys who took my father in law's Hilux out for a joy ride. never the less, my Ranger saved the day.😂🍻
Winch would of come in handy back in 2017 may after the big wet they had up in cape york. Brand new d23 navara no winch or bullbar. Had to relay on a mates which to get through palm creek. Same trip out at ussher point stuck on a sand dune digging and max tracks for hours to get to camp. Inch by inch go there
A winch would have been handy the first time I went to the glasshouse mountains with a friend. He drove his patrol into a mudpit and got it stuck on its diffs with the wheels spinning freely in the ruts. I tried to snatch him out using my ranger but I could barely move it given how stuck he was and how thick the clay was. We ended up needing someone else to come snatch him because I completely burnt out the clutch, melted the dual mass flywheel together and became immobile. Yeah a winch would have been nice that day.
A winch would have been handy just yesterday, as me and my mates are on our ps and were keen to get out there, but we were stuck for four days and had to leave them overnight, we just got out today, after 4 days of digging in the afternoons, and using a hand winch come along with only 4 metres of rope. there's still 1 car there so a winch would be handy right now!!
Friday arvo, picked the kids up from school early to beat the high tide at Teewah. Traffic was a nightmare and hit the beach at sunset towing a 2T camper. Tried to move off soft sand to harder stuff and the trailer dragged into a sand drift and bogged at the high tide line. No cars around, kids in tears and mum thinking we were going to lose the car and trailer. Dug and dug and dug, 2 sets of maxtracks, dropped pressures to 6psi and drove out. Winch would have been amazing to get it out quicker and with less stress for the family. Cheers guys.
definitely needed a winch when i got my patrol flooded whilst my mate i was meant to be recovering was bugged at the same time, could of saved a 50 minute walk back to get phone reception
Me and the family are always wishing we had a winch but I remember earlier this year when the floods were bad I took a fun weekender out to Lithgow we slipped down the edge of a huge slippery rock and smashed down into a bog hole that was a tough night and we had to end up calling one of my mates all the way from Bathurst to come and tow us out at 11 at night !!!
Yeah a winch would have helped when underestimated the depth of a hefty bog hole. Stuck up to the axles. Was 2 hours in to the recover, just shovelling mud everywhere, and luckily someone else came to winch me out
A winch wouldn’t been handy when got bogged in a bog hole out near the Ashley river and digged out our Narvara after 6 hours and a winch would’ve been extremely handy 👍
The mighty High country. River crossing, not sure it's name, hit a submerged rock,(first Gen Foreruner). Well the front end was wedged in the air, but the back end soon filled up with water through the tailgate, Camping gear/ kids wet, oops.😳😳😁..got snatched / recoved backwards eventually. But if I had a winch on my then ARB bullbar, I would have got myself off that rock, without waiting for someone to help.
Picture it 2012, 8:30pm and heading out to a favourite spot to fish. The usual track had been closed off so I decided to try another way, across the salt pan, yeah I know! Well it went to baby poo in no time flat and I'm doing a U turn licktysplit and down we went, 100m from solid ground. No winch, no max tracks, nothing. Needless to say it was a long night collecting rocks from 1km away to no avail. Called the old man at 7am. He comes out with 150m of cable, still no luck 3 attemps later. At midday, a tow truck comes out and burys his tilt tray back into the sand and drags me out with his 10T winch for $250, $350 if I wanted a receipt, lol. I still don't have a winch and my old man and I would thankyou for if I'm ever that stupid again.
Decided to go exploring in some muddy tracks on HT tires when I first got my ute. First big hole sank straight to the axles and had no way out. After many many attempts, was able to get a mate snatch me out backwards as there was no hope going forward (snatching out of mud is certainly less than ideal!) Winch would have been an absolute life saver!
I once got stuck on the GHAN RAILWAY TRACK with some mates in my Mums 80. The train came and that was the end of the old girl. Mums still hasn’t forgiven me 😂😂😂😂
I would have loved to have a winch when my self and a mate got stuck in a Kenyan national park. After heavy rains and no other path to take we had a deep mud patch to cross and both cars got bogged. Lucky a car passing by had a winch. Only problem, he was driving a land rover... We where in toyota's!! :( NOT A GOOD LOOK!!
Going down the Jamieson track in the Otways at night after spending the arvo swimming in the local waterfalls, found myself a bit over my head as the track turned into a steep descent of rutted clay mud. That wasnt too bad but the ascent that came after was... a winch would have been a god sent!
About 40 years ago I had an FJ40 and was driving around Walhalla with some friends I was leading, and started to drive down one off the Deep Creek tracks as I went past the point of not being able to reverse back up I realized it was to steep so I had to go down. At the bottom I could not find a way out the other side so I committed to try to get back up the way I came, needless to say I got stuck halfway up, none of the convoy had a winch so we had to use a Tirfor to try and pull me back up. In the end I burnt the clutch out trying to help make it easier on the Tirfor, so we ended up tying my car to a tree to stop it rolling back and went into Walhalla to try and get some help, that's were it stayed overnight. The next day with the help of a local with a C1300 International truck and about 300 meters of steel cable and 14 hours we got the cruiser to the top of the hill.
A winch would most definitely be an advantage for us when we toured the cape solo. Lacking a winch and being solo limited us to attack tracks that we were confident we could get through, thus we missed doing the Frenchmans track which was on our bucket list but due to rain prior to our arrival it wasn't a viable option. Its still most definitely on the bucket list once we install a winch.
For someone that's learning how to winch I think this is the best video I've seen literally talking about physics great job keep up the great work thank you from Florida USA
We have a property that the family goes camping on. The ground is normally very hard, but at Easter a mates 4wd broke through the grass on the surface and sunk to its chassis after other cars had driven over the same spot. We only had 2 recovery tracks and a shovel, plus a snatch strap. After lots of digging in the sticky mud we managed to snatch it out. As there wasn't much room for snatching a winch would have made it a simple recovery. A winch would also be great piece of mind for future camping trips with my family.
A winch would have been handy when i took some family and international visitors up the bush in the company car. We got stranded (diffed out) for an entire day, called a mate who staked 2 tyres on his way to tow us out. Endend up doing a 6 line pull with rope and a 1/2 dozen blokes and pulled the bogged car out with man power. Bloody wish we had a winch that day. Cheers boys
Best time I could have used a winch? About 10 years back a friend and I decided to take a “short cut” through a short bit of bush about 10 at night, low and behold my mate slipped into some ruts and we went straight down to the axles. After 4 hours of chocking, digging and getting covered in mud we had to walk a few kms down the road to get a mate to two us out. Our 5 minute short cut cost us 5 hours and one hell of an adventure.
the highest level of load resistance your vehicle will face will be 3 times it's weight. you do not need to account for gravity, incline, surface friction coefficient. to determine the minimum winch capacity you should use for your rig you want to be able to perform a 3:1 mechanical advantage (triple line) as the worse case scenario. that means you will be utilizing 2 tackles (pulleys) which will add additional 10% of tackle resistance per tackle based on your load resistance. In order to safety recovery your rig the fall line force must be lesser than the winch(and winch components) capacity. Practical example for a 3:1 (triple line) 4000lb rig x 3 resistance = 12 000lb load resistance 12 000lb resistance x 20% (2 tackles)= 2400lb additional tackle resistance 12 000lb + 2400lb = 14 400lb total load resistance. 14 400lb / 3 mechanical advantage= 4800lb fall line force you must have a winch (and winch components) that has a rating greater than 4800lb to safely recover your rig with a 3:1 mechanical advantage in the worse case scenario (completely bogged down) Practical example for a 2:1 (double line) if you do not wish to require extensive amount of line to recover. 4000lb rig x 3 resistance = 12 000lb load resistance 12 000lb resistance x 10% (2 tackles)= 1200lb additional tackle resistance 12 000lb + 1200lb = 13 200lb total load resistance. 13 200lb / 2 mechanical advantage= 6600lb fall line force you must have a winch(and winch components) that has a rating greater than 6600lb to safely recover your rig with a 2:1 mechanical advantage in the worse case scenario (completely bogged down) most videos of people utilizing winches of stuck vehicle dangerously pass the Working Load Limit (WLL) of their winch (and winch component) equipment. The Working Load Limit is 1/3 of the breaking limit of the equipment. So self recovery equipment with 6000lb working load limits will have a breaking limit of 18 000lb under normal conditions. Because of this many people put wear and strain on their equipment without realizing the dangers that they are putting themselves. It will work for a couple times until the wear eventually takes over and the line snaps. You want to ensure that the fall line force is lower than the working load limit of every portion of the winch equipment. (winch, line, hook, straps, shackles, chains) You are able to change the fall line force by raising the mechanical advantage. It is however unnecessary as the most you will require is a 3:1 mechanical advantage, unless you are utilizing a severely undersized winch for the job.
Bought a 96 LR Disco last week to take my 8yo son out in. He is 4WD 24/7 obsessed! Shauno is his idol. On our first trip out I realized the previous owner had put the control box on upside down and was full of water, completely rusted out! A decent winch would have saved us from re-laying the Maxtrax about 13,000 times 😂
my first time got bogged I was at the exit of bribie Island, sand super super soft, total 5HRS of digging, planning ect. 🤦♂️ I can't forget many ppl try to help, also many were watching and recording the situation.. with maxtrax and some logs but nothing.. a winch would've be handy.. the following week I bought a winch
For some silly reason I took my young family 4wd touring when my kids were 2 1/2 and about 6 months. We were following trip notes, and in what I would now describe as a lack of sleep phase I turned left instead of right. We 4wd up the hill noting to my unimpressed wife, it’s a bit slippery and I’d hate to miscalculate and drop into the ruts. What happened next is I cracked through the top layer and slid sidewards into the ruts, couldn’t move forward, couldn’t go backwards. By this stage Master 6 months needed a feed. So got the family out…through the passenger windows, set mum and bub up to breastfeed. For the next FOUR hours I hand winched out of that mess. It has been the one and only time I have used that Tirfor Hand Winch. So…after getting us back on the track completely exhausted…I reversed back down the hill………straight into a tree 🤦♂️….that guys is why I need a winch to go back and tackle that hill 22 years later 🤣
In 1996, My Wife Found the Perfect location to build our forever home in the Ozarks, with a beautiful 30' Dogwood tree as the view up the valley, from what is now the front porch. While showing the contractor the location we decided on, I buried my 1989, FJ62, up to the bottom of the rear windows in a spring against the Dogwood tree. If I had a winch then, We would not had to cut the tree down to drive out, She still hasn't forgiven me for that! She just doesn't care for the Red Bud that grew in it's place. Apparently there isn't a statute of limitations for that crime. Thanks for Great Information!
I could of used a DriveTech winch back when i was 17yo, i only weighed about 70kg and i got tackled my this woman weighing 120kg. She was on top of me, tonging my face, i couldn't move and everyone was laughing. I was scarred for life. If i had a DriveTech winch i would of dragged myself out from under the mass using a double line pull and abruptly absconded. :)
Probably the best recovery video ive ever seen. But id like to add. You touched on kinetic recovery. But were way off on how that works. If u have a 15mtr snatch strap. You literally need to use 75% of it for it to work properly. Meaning a 15mtr snatch. You should have read of recovery vehicle 4mtrs from stuck vehicle. And absolutely plant it to use all kinetic energy. If thats too crazy. Always winch. Too often people are quick to snactch and dont do it properly. Should also touch on what static recovery is. Great video!! Just thought od put my 2cents in
Luckily I have never been in a situation to have to use my winch in anger yet. Lucky because it is just a cheap winch that came with the car when I bought it. A new 1200lb Drivetech winch on my LC200 would be great in case I ever see Graham stuck in his Y62 down south of W.A. Thanks for the great winching advice. Taking a deep breath before starting any recovery is great advice from Jocko, the Smooth Operator!
4 years ago I got an 80 series. Take it to Kenilworth stock with a mate to drive some easy tracks. Be impressed how capable it is. Find a boghole and think I've bought maxtrax, we'll be alright! (we weren't alright) Bogged and had to walk 4k back to campground to ask someone to pull us out. Live and learn! But definitely could have used a winch in this situation :)
Like many of the stories here, a winch would have saved my old prado from a drowning A few years ago, me and mate, plus his dad went for a scope for some cliff fishing down in the Fitzgerald River National Park. We'd taken the week off work, and the first day in we went to plan where we might go. We only took my car, and on the way out it was sensational, pushing in through some old tracks and found a few really promising spots. The way home however, took a bold route through a muddy puddle and boy was it deep. First time I've felt a 4wd float. Immediately tried to reverse out but no luck. The water was up to the door handles and and so my mate and his dad jumped out the windows and grabbed the 2 TRED tracks out. We tried for about 10minutes with no luck, it was suctioned to the bottom like nothing else. Finally had both him and his dad on the back left hand corner, rocking the car with the water sloshing over the centre console, and we got the traction to get out backward. How it kept running was a mystery but damn I thanked the Toyota gods for smiling. Once out, stopped and got the soaked air-filter out and let it dry for a good hour. Finally got it in, started and limped home. Sadly it was an economic write-off, with the salty water electrical gremlins causing havoc. Damn with a winch it would have been out in a minute. Few lessons learnt, ALWAYS CHECK THE LINE PROPERLY. Don't let the emotion get in the way of actually planning what ya gotta do. Now setting up for trip around Aus with my partner for '23 and boy would a winch and recovery set-up make me a more confident boy haha don't want a repeat of it!
Got my 80 series about a year ago, took it out bush with a mate literally the weekend I got it. My mate went through soft mushy black mud, 76 series, 3” lift on 35s. Breezed through it. I went through on a sagged 2” and 31s. Bogged straight down to the chassis. Tried snatching from the front and rear but nothing worked (neither of us had winches) after 4 hours of digging and trying to snatch I was still stuck. My mates partner called her uncle who come out in a 79 WITH a winch and finally got out after another 2 hours of winching. Safe to say it’ll be handy having a winch 😅
I love all the tips! I’m brand new to 4 wheel driving and your video has been the most helpful getting unstuck. The winch would have been a day saver one time when I got stuck in 1-2 feet of snow while driving to a lake to ice fish on my tiny Honda civic. I thought my car being light would help but made it more stuck. I ended up getting stuck so far that the guy who came to tow me out also got stuck and needed to get towed out himself. I love your guys work!
I went for a 4wd by myself along the beach one morning not far from home. I decided to go into the Sandhills and got bogged on full flex. No lockers, no winch, just a snatch strap and a set of maxtraxx. Couldn’t get out by myself. Had to leave my ute, walk home and wait for Dad to get home from work to give me tow. Also managed to miss my 12.30pm tee time. A winch would’ve saved my bacon!
New to 4WD'img, alone and exploring (not too far from home) I applied the "she'll be right" approach when faced with a bog hole and a trailer full of fire wood. Next thing I'm axle deep and spraying mud all over the joint. Out comes the wood, off comes the trailer and I got pulled out backwards by a bloke passing by. Several lessons learned that day, including she won't always be right and a winch on the front would be bloody handy!!
Every time i go out 4wdriving i wish my dad had an electric winch he still uses a hand winch from the 80s and it has taken us 2 hours to use the winch to get us like 20 meters. And its also very embarrassing when my dad stuffs around with his hand winch and everyone else watching him i reckon an electric winch would be and essential itam for us.
Great tips jocko. I own an ln106 as well and nothing can stop them. Iv got a winch on mine but it’s completely broken and there is no saving it so it’s makes situations even harder when your stuck,everyone saying “oh you can just winch out”, “Nup doesn’t work”. I was once stuck in a bog hole for 8 hours and snatching wasn’t working at all, first track into a day of wheeling. If I had a winch probably would of be out in 30 min. Ended up calling afew Mates with a winch and 8 hours later a winch came to the rescue. And I was out. Big pain but I’m out now
Glasshouse Mountains are my local, I’m wheeling an n60 Lux on 31s. I can’t think of a trip when I didn’t need a winch! Probably most memorably though, the day when I was fully bottomed out of south powerlines, a bit difficult to drive when all 4 wheels are in the air! Thank goodness for mates who wheel with you
Now if this was a Shauno vid it would be about how to get your 4WD stuck, and in need of recovery...🤣 PS - I need a winch to practice Jock's recovery techniques...
That time I parked just off the gravel track on the way to Gibraltar rock. All looked fine but the Landy sunk to the chassis in seconds after stopping. Broke the crust. Couldn't dig it out, was like soup and maxtrax didn't work. Worst part was having a large tree directly in front of the car about 10m away. Had to walk to get Signal and call a mate out for rescue... Should of had a winch...
I really could’ve done with a winch on my first proper 4WD trip. After several days of heavy rain, all the tracks in the Vic High Country were barely drivable. I found myself in my 80 series with bald 31” AT’s, trying to make it down a huge hill with a sheer drop only meters away. After the slowest and most terrifying drive of my life, I managed to get the old bus down the hill (with the very limited driving skills I had) whilst I came very close to going off the edge, and nearly sliding into the back of my mates Hilux. If I had a winch, I could’ve winched off of any 1 of the millions of trees in the high country, using the trees as an anchor, could’ve saved the stress and a new set of pants 😂
Went to a small track, about 200 meters, with my mum to show her how the 106 went. It had rained for the last week straight. Poked my head up the track looked easy enough, mum was keen. Rounded a corner to a 10 meter bog hole that didn’t even look like it had water in it, was just thick as mud. I was in high range going a bit too fast to stop so I tried to push through it. My poor old A/T’s we’re looking more like drag slicks at this point. Got about halfway through until we stopped moving and the wheels were spinning like crazy. We spent about 6 hours trying to pack logs under the tyres, to no avail, until my brother finally got off work and came to the rescue and snatched us out. Bloody winch would’ve got us out in about 2 minutes. Sorry mumma ❤️
My first ever 4WD trip as a kid in dad’s brand new “unboggable” Range Rover back in the 80’s. Coorong in SA, soft wet sand, bogged to the eyeballs. We were all digging and digging. Mum had to walk for hours to find another 4WD to help out. We only just got out before the tide got us. A winch and a spare wheel or dead-man would have sorted us out.
One time I decided to venture out to an off-road park alone. I met with the owner and explained I just picked up a 2000 4runner and wanted to explore the stock limits, he was super nice and just said have a go at it. He did however explain he was very busy setting up courses for an off-road club to come and try that afternoon, I assured him I wouldnt push it too hard as I was alone anyway and I do not have a winch. Well after going through the property on level 1 trails, I somehow found myself cobble crawling up creeks, and bogging in the forest to which I decided to follow a sign around a tree and PLOPPED my whole body down to the frame into a truck sized bog hole. I had to go do the whole walk of shame across the entire property, owner watched me walk across the field the whole way. Full smiles when I finally get to him, he already knows he said. Such a nice guy, both of us hopped into his Carburated Chevy K20 on 40" tires, explained how his truck belonged to a friend who died and it was one of the things he remembers him by and some war stories from Vietnam. It was pitiful how easy it was for a 85' K20 to pull my "small" 4wd out. The guy's name was Joe he told me and welcomed me back anytime if I wanna get stuck again hahha. Please get out there and enjoy these types of folks while they are here.. He converted his whole personal property and fought with gov. bodies to establish the park; whole expeirance and getting completely stuck 10/10, wish I had a winch but at the same time I would have never met Joe.
I know I'm late to reply to this, but it's always been a dream of mine to do something like this. If only I owned enough land...
During the recent floods in northern NSW I managed to get my ute stuck worse than it's ever been... in my front yard.. with a whole street of spectators.
The flood water had made the grass softer than first thought and I was COMPLETELY stuck. Eventually a legend came along in his 79 and winched me out. Having my own winch definitely would of saved my ego that day!
When I first moved to my current house, I parked my loaded 24ft caravan on the back lawn, being used to hard ground. Unfortunately, after a few hours, it had sunk down to the spring shackles. The ground was mush, just under the surface, as I found out. I had my ranger in 4WD, with the diff lock on, and was still struggling to pull out the caravan, and made a huge mess of the lawn while doing it. If I had been able to winch pull, then I'd likely not have needed to spend weeks fixing the lawn. Neighbours must have been laughing at me.
LOL, I did the same thing when I brought my Patrol and camper trailer to my new house. I did not realise that the entire backyard was mush and managed to bog both badly enough that I ended up just leaving them both there for 3 months until the yard dried out. Fortunately normal access was from the front driveway so they were not in the way!
@@rlaxton666 Unfortunately, here, things never dry out; that was during summer. I needed somewhere I could get it fairly flat, as we were going to need it while doing renovations. Sinking into the mud wasn't as flat as I'd hoped.
@@Anachroschism Fortunately I don't live in a swamp. Interestingly, in the 10 years after I moved in, the backyard, while flooded many times, has never been as boggy.
I have done more damage to 4WDs in my own driveways than anywhere else, strangely. At a previous bush property I managed to slide off the driveway and get stuck between two trees.
@@rlaxton666 my yard gets so boggy, that even the lawn mower will sink down in some spots, and grass turns to moss in winter. The dogs love it though.
You’re not getting the giveaway lol I am
A few weeks ago I had an electrical issue with my winch, causing the terminals to get extremely hot, melt and nearly catch fire. We disconnected everything to ensure it was safe but then obviously left winch-less for the remainder of the trip on the tracks at Lithgow, having many instances where the winch would have been used but couldn't... Had to resort to snatching instead where it was often a challenge to get a vehicle in front where it was needed. I really felt the struggle of not having a winch and am now on the hunt for a new one, and this Drive Tech one would suit me perfectly!
Definitely could have used a winch when we had three fourbies stuck axle deep in a single file line with an incoming tide at 11pm!
We went down for a sunset BBQ and ended up using and loosing multiple pairs of max tracks and treds when a simple winch could’ve got us out :(
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On Graham’s recommendation I purchased a Isuzu dmax for that perfect daily and tourer combination late last year.
With minimal modifications under my belt, wheels, bullbar and free wheel hubs I hit the tracks with the boys for a weekend.
The place we visited was a our and back track type setup where you explored downhill for a while and to return you had to make your way back up hill.
Over confident with my abilities as I had it easy downhill I opted to be lead vehicle on the return journey.
With 500 metres left to go I had a large rock slope and trench that I had to get up, and just couldn’t pass the obstacle slowly under control. Only missing by about a metre each time.
A winch would have easily given me the last metre I would have needed to pass the rock slope.
Over confident in my cars capability (thanks Graham!) my driving ability and Not wanting to be the butt of all jokes at the campsite later I opted the full send it attitude, good bye front left CV.
After 10 maxtrax and packing like crazy for the next 500m with assistance from the boys I limped the car back to camp. I owed too many beers and wore the jokes all night.
I winch could have saved me the torture.
Save me from this happening again Jocko
Took the kids and the dog out for a day trip to julimar state forest in the 90 series prado thinking we'd have a BBQ lunch and explore some tracks.
After being out most of the day and getting carried away with following different tracks I figured it would be easier and quicker to keep going and come out the other side of the forest. Boy was I wrong...... We came to a section of the track that looked impassible due to the mud so decided to turn around and try a different way.
As I backed the car up off the track to turn around and chucked it in drive I felt the rear wheels sink in and the hard top crust had broken and revealed a muddy cesspool!
Long storey shorter, ended up having to walk an hour through the bush to higher ground to get phone reception to call a mate. By this stage it's dark and cold and the kids and dog were looking at me like, ("how could you do this to me").
About 2 hours later he arrives and snatches us out. Talk about a relief!
5 min up the track though the ground was getting wetter and wetter and my mate got stuck so I snatched him out backwards. Then another 5 min later we both got stuck down to the chassis!
We tried everything but the mud was like cement!
He ended up contacting one of his mates and we awaited his arrival.
Just as we thought he was a no show 3am ticked over and we were half asleep in the cars when we saw the headlights through the forest and he'd arrived with the cavalry, wahoo!
All I was thinking was if I just had a winch I would have been out of the first bog in 5 min and on my way!
Should be a winner mate, good luck
@@Mrboxo Cheers mate!
Hahahaha lucky you didn't have the missus with ya! Imagine lol
@@barnazilla yeah, wasn't too popular when we got home!
Good reliable and capaable 4wds those 90 series Prados
The best time I could've used a winch is when I was at stockton lake, Collie. Thought a puddle looked doable... turns out it wasn't! My mate quickly turned around to snatch me out which nearly broke his 4wd due to how boggy the mud at the bottom of the "puddle" was. Ended up getting it out, snapped off my custom plate which sunk into the mud and was lost forever AND the car was written off! Now have just bought my dad's Ford Ranger and taken it under my wing to upgrade to an awesome rig so a winch and recovery set would be amazing so I don't have another written off 4WD!!! Love your videos guys keep up the amazing work :)
DEFINITELY COULD HAVE (Ha Ha) used when my friends Grand Vitara slipped into a washout and was teetering on the verge of rolling. If he had any more Go he would have been on his roof. I finally got him back on his wheels after using a sketchy RATCHET WINCH! I was praying that it didn't snap with each stroke ever tightening. Some how he didn't stop laughing or smiling through the whole experience as he sat clinging to his door. Lessons learnt that day :)
Seen those winches before. surprised you got the car out unscathed. wouldn't want to have that hand winch break.😬
@@thatcargirl2146 XD only rated to pull 700kg but it has a breaking force of 3000kg so it was safe I would hope. Would not have liked if I had to reset the winch tho.
Could definitely use a winch as it seems like everytime i go 4WD i get bogged, 😂🤔 all tho that might be because i have a Triton ...🤣
Awesome and informative video I shared it to all my 4wd groups here in Trinidad 🇹🇹. A winch would of been handy when I parked in a grassy slope near the beach, rain fell and I slid straight down and with my almost bald tires I ended up doing mad 4wd burnouts instead 😀
Should of had a winch, a few years ago I was driving a local beach in far north Qld there was a cyclone buzzing along the coast out from where we were, l crossed a small creek mouth but just as I got halfway across my clutch decided to slip (it burnt out ) on me stopping me in my tracks the tide was starting to come back in and the waves were bloody huge, if I had a winch I could of saved the rig, all I could do was tie it up to a tree and walk out to get help when I finally got back to my rig hours later it was facing out to sea and buried up to the windows in sand we got her out and towed it home, hosed it out and got it going again, bloody pummel stones where in every nock and cranny even in the ceiling light, a month later we did the Fraser island run in the old girl and got it bogged at Eli creek but a least there was help on hand the old Hilux gave up about 12 months later died of cancer should have had a winch
I'm having to do most of my wheeling by myself, often getting stuck.
Thankfully always been able to get unstuck, but i know the day's gonna come where I'll really be stuck.
That tool will definitely keep me out of trouble 🤙👍
Always better to be prepared hey mate!
Wrong. You would get into more trouble than ever. It's just that you would have a pretty fair chance of getting yourself out of trouble again so you can go find more trouble 😜
As soon as a got my ps I went on a camping trip with the boys. We went down this sketchy as old fire trail which the floods had completely eroded. I made it down fine ish and we all had a great night, anyway it pissed down all through the night and when it had come to leave I hand to turn around, and the only spot I could turn around was this boggy little corner. I ended up getting completely stuck, even after digging out a track and lining it with sticks and bark for traction. I thought I was going to have to leave my Ute there until it dried out. But thankfully I guy up the road came and pulled me out in a triton with a spear wheel on none the less. I was shocked he made it out. Essentially I wish I had a winch on me because it would have made that whole situation a lot easier and less stressful
Jock I'm going to be real, I have only just gotten my first car, a 2004 lux, and haven't needed to do a recovery as of yet, which wouldn't have mattered because I don't have any gear, bit Broke after the Toyota tax, but I sure plan on doing some good tracks, Yalwal is local, so if yous could help me out it would be much appreciated, love the content👍
Was at the pub one night for nans birthday, after an absolute ripper parmi, about to cut a cheese cake we hear this massive crash. A bloke in a 2.8L lux has just backed into the river off a bit of eroded bank abt half a metre tall. Anyways we had a couple utes there to winch him out without any major damage. Thought that was a yarn to share but anywyas im a 16yr old that just bought my first Ute 02 Rodeo and would bloody froth a winch to go out for a fourbie, I live abt an hour away and would love to tackle the Coffs tracks you boys did a while ago on the channel
Went driving up the forest not far from the farm in an ln106 single cab with only 1 car and while driving back from the tracks after a big rain we tried to go around a bog on the clay road but when only 1 wheel made it up the small slippery gutter the rest slid along and before we new it we were in it. we were there till 10.30 and only got out with logs because no maxx traxx either. very under prepared. could use this on the new hzj75 build
Definitely could of used a winch when I decided to go camping by my self and got bogged. After 22 hours with my swag set up in the middle on the track and a long walk looking for help. Found a few blokes with a winch and an hours later I was free 🥴
Would’ve been handy after convincing my girlfriends father to come along to a track after saying I’d be able to do it and finding out that we had to backtrack out as we couldn’t get up a steep slippery incline! Was pretty disappointing as it was the fist time I had taken him 4wding
I desperately needed an electric winch when I got our MU-X stuck up a slippery hill in the Snowy Mountains. We took a wrong turn, ignored the danger / turn back signs and sure enough it started raining and we got stuck up a long steep hill. We were on our own and hadn't seen a car for almost 2 days. We were lost and badly stuck. We ended up spending almost 6 hours of hand winching to move the vehicle forwards (up-hill), backwards (down-hill) and even 180 degrees to turn it around on the track. As if the punishment of getting stuck in the middle of nowhere was bad enough, 6 hours of hand winching helped reinforce our bad decision. Whilst I'm glad we had the hand winch, we still don't have an electric winch and could definitely do with one!
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A winch would have been heaps handy when me and my mate were out 4wding in the watos we found this bog hole it looked like a normal road but it wasn’t he drove in a bang he was gone neither of us had a winch we tried to snatch but it snap and broke his
Windshield and had to wait 4 hours for a tow truck
Well I'm not picking up my new D-Max for a few months. The time I wish I'd had a winch, the day I pick it up. Then hopefully I never have a better/worse answer for a question like this.
Mate, I drive an Ln167 with ifs, I get stuck every second Sunday 😑 just bought a winch mount for my TJM bar a new winch would be handy to fit into it 💪🏽
hooly dooly do I have a story for you boys. picture this Vic high country, July 2019, bright red triton and a couple stock cruisers wet as a the pissa floor in a brothel. We come across these closed road signs and the adventure-seeking blokes we were decided to drive around them. the first 2km of this track was beautiful not even me driveway was this glorious wasn't a pothole, stick, rock, or stump in sight unusual for victoria but no complaints, anyway the ol' red bitsashitty come around the corner and there was this rock pretty sure it was the rock that fell out the sky and killed the dinosaurs. The Uluru himself would've been scared of this big bastard but being the wannabe F1 driver I am I drifted around this thing scraping the tub on the nearby native floora leaving me pinned against a rock and a hard place. with me dacks packed seeking some bog roll I jumped out and realised there's the grand canyon of the VIC high country next to me. As I was walking around the side of the shitbox Mitsubishi calls a triton she started to slide, slide like the shit slid out of me arse just prior. the boys saw the old girl slide and swiftly come to assist with two 60kg blokes holding me pride and joy on this cliff I jumped back in the cockpit and gave her hell, as you could imagine it sounded awesome but did pretty close to f**k all. we were there for hours using stumps, sticks, blokes and all 80 horney ponies the old girl had, it was no use so we tired her up to the nearest tree and let her sit for the night. a few angry cans and some black fishes were consumed that night and a game plan was developed. we would get one of the Toyotas and wrap the snatch around a tree which will pull the arse end towards the rock it worked said the bluey it was like he was surprised that the plan a few cockys put together on the piss worked. anyway with all 4s on the track we slowly dragged her out backwards we thought it was over but then two cruisers had to execute a 43 point turn to get facing the other way so an hour later we were on our way back to the main road as we came back down the track we put the close road signs back on the road. and now just imagine how much easier this shit show would've been if I had one of those big flash turny things that gets ya unbogged. would've just hooked her up to the tree in front and slowly inched her around the rock and we would've been outta there in a quick jiffy. anyway long story short I need one of those spinny things on the front of ol red. thanks for listening boys and girls.
Would’ve been great to have a winch when I bogged my troopy in some soft sand in the Inland tracks over on Moreton island, must’ve been the extra weight from the dream catcher and 19 surfboards on the roof hey guys! 😂🤣
Winch would've come in mighty handy quite a few times, I'll tell you about the 2 of them! I was having a play in some small dips that had filled with water on a cleared grass area and all was well and fun, all of a sudden I flexed out and dug myself a hole, was in quite a remote area, so me and my then pregnant partner had to walk about 3km in the rain to get phone signal (that I had to climb a sign for) to ring for help, but to no avail, help had to come back with a 4wd tractor to drag me out after trying with their 2010 hilux. Next was a time I was gathering firewood, been to through these same uphill ruts 100 times without any major issues, this one day it had been raining and could not get up no matter how hard I tried, anyway, hit it so hard and fast I bounced out of the rut and into a never ending soft spot, and boy oh boy was I stuck! The recovery car that I called to come winch me out had to anchor himself to a tree! Anyways hope someone gets a laugh from these to experiences, lots more to tell but couldn't narrow it down to one! Keep safe everyone!
Thinking back, definitely could have used a winch a few days after i got my P's. My group of mates were all so keen to go out and 4wd but at the time i had the only capable 4wd rig, so not thinking that the tracks would be as soft as they were we set out and managed to get ourselves stuck axle deep in soft sand (winch woulda been handy as there were trees on either sides of the track). We ended up spending the next 2.5 hours on hands and knees with a single shovel digging a path out for the rig until she finally made it to some more hard track. It was a pain but you gotta do what you gotta do with what you got i suppose :)
I needed a winch to help remove a wisdom tooth
I was out in my local scrub and got real bogged, spent the next 3 hrs trying to get this suzuki to try and snatch me out (big fail), had to get a local farmer with his tractor.
I even returned a box of beer to him the next day.
I was up double island with some mates goofing around in the soft stuff and when we were going back to our campsite I tried to be cool and go on the very soft stuff right next to camp was going good till it didn’t. I got bogged and decided i was gonna call it a park for few hours till my mates snatched me out.
Great video guys will certainly come handy for us all but the time we could of needed a winch was when my dad was crossing the river with his hilux but then we must of got a big surge of water and then draged him down the river but dad managed to stop the car but the water kept on rising and then the water came up to the windows and long story short we pulled it out and then when we got it on dry land since its a Toyota hilux it started up first go and running perfectly but the NRMA said that it want be to safe on the road because the wiring could get a mold or something but that is when we could of needed a good winch..
Through u never liked mud in your car
On my uncle farm he has a large sand and clay hole witch was dug to bild one of the main roads neer the region and every time it rains the hole normaly has a fear bit of water in it and being a mix of sand and clay it makes a extremely sticky mud. We went to the hole and i wanted do go through the one bog hole but as i got about three quarters the way through i drove into an extremely deep part of the hole and got stuk with the mud at the botom of my window on the one side and halfway up my door on the other side it would have been a easyer recovery if i could winch forward as ther was a tree not to far away and the hill to get out on the front of the hole is mutch les steep than on the side i enterd from but because i dident have a winch my uncle had to winch from behind and me being the heaviest truk my uncle only drag himself we later on phone a family friend witch linked up with my uncle and bouth of them pulling we started to move my truck until my uncles which line snaped we did not have any straps to try and pull luckily a local farmer said we can lend an big chain and his tractor on the first pull we broke the chain in in half and after dubbeling the chain and our family friend also helping to pull we maniged to get my truck free but a half of the day was wasted and it started geting dark so we had to go back home as it was about 2 hours drive back home. I whould have loved a winch at that time but we had some fun and are still laughing about that day. Love your videos keep them coming
A winch and some god recovery gear could have been helpful when me and the old man got the farm ute bogged. But then not one but two tractors bogged trying to just get one ute out. A winch and some good recovery gear could haves saved us half a day 😂
When I got called out by a couple of mates to pull the out when they where stuck in the bush. Got there 1 car stuck down to chassis and another 2 bogged. Snapped two snap straps try to pull them out got one out than got bogged straight after along with the car I just pulled out than had to wait for an hour for mate with a winch to come pull all of us out
stuck for the day in a 47 series LandCruiser waiting for a mate to rock up with a winch in the middle of the river
A winch would have been good the last time I got bogged. I went for a snatch recovery but got dragged into a bog hole after I pulled the other car out of its hole as it acted like an anchor. I had heaps of fun digging my Might 90 Prado out but I could have avoided it if I had a winch!
If only!!! Gotta be next on the list
Surely you get this after seeing them pictures!
could have really done with a winch when we got stuck on the the beach with an incoming tide could have winched off many different vehicles until someone was brave enough to snatch us out
A winch would have been super handy this one time when we loaded up all the lads, a couple of surfboards and a carton and headed off on a spontaneous surf trip down to 3 bears! (Graham will know all about this track! Long story short, one wrong turn and the old work ute fell off the side of the track and down the cliff face (about a 10ft drop) 2 blown front tyres and no winch, we weren’t going anywhere fast. 3 days later, the carton of beers long gone, a lot of walking through the bush, a visit from the local ranger, police and every surfer passing though we managed to track down a bloke with a 6 wheeler ex army truck with a crane of the back to skull drag the old work ute up the cliff! Safe to say the boss wasn’t too happy about the state of the work ute on Monday! 😂
I followed my dad in getting a navara last October. we went out about a week after I bought it and didn't really know much about offroading, next thing you know we are both sitting on our diffs in thick mud which took about 5 hours and 7 other vehicles to pull us out 😂, a winch plus much more wouldve been very handy that day
Gday Jocko, the day I was out the back of Orbost in Victoria I really needed a winch, simply river crossing in water around 400mm deep there was a log I didn’t see, the front went over no problem but the spring hangers hit and by the time I went to go backwards it was show over, well a phone call to a mate with a winch and 3hr wait I got out, great video as always mate. Cheers
I got the rig stuck and I ended up using an 1800's style winch which consisted of a rope tied around a rock with three guys manually rolling the rock. Imagine if I had a Drivetech 12,000 pound winch, a three-day recovery would have been a three-minute recovery!
That's hilarious
I would have loved to have this winch when I was high centered by myself on my way to a friend's place for wheeling, this was back in 2021 on a fire break.
On one of my first adventures, I was with my friends driving through a national forest in the snow, when we decided to turn around. Our 4runner immediately sunk into the powdery snow up to the frame and we spent the next two hours digging the 4runner out....
A winch would’ve been perfect for when I went for one of the first trips in my new patrol and got stuck in a bog hole for a few hours😂 ended up having to walk ages to get service so I could call dad to come recover me in the middle of the night! All my friends cars were too light and not powerful enough to get me out
A winch could’ve come in handy when we were on the farm once and the ute got stuck in a bog hole in the arvo and we couldn’t get out by snatching with one car so we had three cars snatching at the same time and was very unsafe
Winch could really come in handle because we are looking to go travel the Pilbara in a 100 series LC
A winch definitely may have helped when I had to try recover a mates ute from a very solid bog hole. Some other guys had already ripped off the front factory recovery points trying to get him out so all I could do was snatch from the rear. Broke the strap at both ends. Had to come back the next day and the ute had to be lifted out with an excavator. So maybe a winch wouldn't have done it, but would've saved me from some solid whiplash.
Hi there.
I am in love with 4 wheel driving but unfortunately I don’t have a winch yet.
I would love to be able to win this winch.
The main thing I would use it for would be to pull trees down in my backyard, go through deeper bog holes while on trips as I’ll know I’ll be able to be recovered by the winch!
Definitely could of done with one Easter morning on the beach with my 5 year old daughter I looked backwards to make sure she was alright just as I did I drove through a wash out and ended up hung up up in the sand dunes by our self no one around 5 hours on my hands and knees wow what a morning cheers buddy keep up the great work I love the show
Could've definetly used a winch when me and my mates all got stuck when there were 3 days till the track closed, wasn't nice and had to rush a lot. Would be handy to have one
Would have been nice having a winch up in the glasshouse mountains a few years ago in a stock vehicle especially after the car took a bit of a roll
I live in Lismore NSW and with the amount of water still around after the flood I’ve been bogged more times on my own property in the last 2 months than I have been in the last 5 years of 4wding trips. A winch would’ve saved me on at least 4 occasions recently, I’ve never seen the ground as wet as it is now.
Side note, love the content lads. Definitely been a massive highlight lately everytime a new 4wd 24/7 vid drops!
Going down gunshot with me Lego car
On one of my first trips I ended up helping out several vehicles that were stuck in the sand. At the time the only recovery gear I had was a shovel. Long story short, we got them all out and had a good workout too. A winch or recovery rope woulda helped heaps.
a winch could have made my life easier when I used my Ranger T6 to pull out 2 boys who took my father in law's Hilux out for a joy ride. never the less, my Ranger saved the day.😂🍻
Winch would of come in handy back in 2017 may after the big wet they had up in cape york. Brand new d23 navara no winch or bullbar. Had to relay on a mates which to get through palm creek. Same trip out at ussher point stuck on a sand dune digging and max tracks for hours to get to camp. Inch by inch go there
A winch would have been handy the first time I went to the glasshouse mountains with a friend. He drove his patrol into a mudpit and got it stuck on its diffs with the wheels spinning freely in the ruts. I tried to snatch him out using my ranger but I could barely move it given how stuck he was and how thick the clay was. We ended up needing someone else to come snatch him because I completely burnt out the clutch, melted the dual mass flywheel together and became immobile. Yeah a winch would have been nice that day.
A winch would have been handy just yesterday, as me and my mates are on our ps and were keen to get out there, but we were stuck for four days and had to leave them overnight, we just got out today, after 4 days of digging in the afternoons, and using a hand winch come along with only 4 metres of rope. there's still 1 car there so a winch would be handy right now!!
Friday arvo, picked the kids up from school early to beat the high tide at Teewah. Traffic was a nightmare and hit the beach at sunset towing a 2T camper. Tried to move off soft sand to harder stuff and the trailer dragged into a sand drift and bogged at the high tide line. No cars around, kids in tears and mum thinking we were going to lose the car and trailer. Dug and dug and dug, 2 sets of maxtracks, dropped pressures to 6psi and drove out. Winch would have been amazing to get it out quicker and with less stress for the family. Cheers guys.
definitely needed a winch when i got my patrol flooded whilst my mate i was meant to be recovering was bugged at the same time, could of saved a 50 minute walk back to get phone reception
Me and the family are always wishing we had a winch but I remember earlier this year when the floods were bad I took a fun weekender out to Lithgow we slipped down the edge of a huge slippery rock and smashed down into a bog hole that was a tough night and we had to end up calling one of my mates all the way from Bathurst to come and tow us out at 11 at night !!!
Yeah a winch would have helped when underestimated the depth of a hefty bog hole. Stuck up to the axles. Was 2 hours in to the recover, just shovelling mud everywhere, and luckily someone else came to winch me out
A winch wouldn’t been handy when got bogged in a bog hole out near the Ashley river and digged out our Narvara after 6 hours and a winch would’ve been extremely handy 👍
The mighty High country.
River crossing, not sure it's name, hit a submerged rock,(first Gen Foreruner). Well the front end was wedged in the air, but the back end soon filled up with water through the tailgate, Camping gear/ kids wet, oops.😳😳😁..got snatched / recoved backwards eventually. But if I had a winch on my then ARB bullbar, I would have got myself off that rock, without waiting for someone to help.
"You'd never put your four wheel drive through this stress..."
Some may take that as a challenge...
Picture it 2012, 8:30pm and heading out to a favourite spot to fish. The usual track had been closed off so I decided to try another way, across the salt pan, yeah I know! Well it went to baby poo in no time flat and I'm doing a U turn licktysplit and down we went, 100m from solid ground. No winch, no max tracks, nothing. Needless to say it was a long night collecting rocks from 1km away to no avail. Called the old man at 7am. He comes out with 150m of cable, still no luck 3 attemps later. At midday, a tow truck comes out and burys his tilt tray back into the sand and drags me out with his 10T winch for $250, $350 if I wanted a receipt, lol.
I still don't have a winch and my old man and I would thankyou for if I'm ever that stupid again.
Decided to go exploring in some muddy tracks on HT tires when I first got my ute. First big hole sank straight to the axles and had no way out. After many many attempts, was able to get a mate snatch me out backwards as there was no hope going forward (snatching out of mud is certainly less than ideal!) Winch would have been an absolute life saver!
I once got stuck on the GHAN RAILWAY TRACK with some mates in my Mums 80. The train came and that was the end of the old girl. Mums still hasn’t forgiven me 😂😂😂😂
I would have loved to have a winch when my self and a mate got stuck in a Kenyan national park. After heavy rains and no other path to take we had a deep mud patch to cross and both cars got bogged. Lucky a car passing by had a winch. Only problem, he was driving a land rover... We where in toyota's!! :( NOT A GOOD LOOK!!
Going down the Jamieson track in the Otways at night after spending the arvo swimming in the local waterfalls, found myself a bit over my head as the track turned into a steep descent of rutted clay mud. That wasnt too bad but the ascent that came after was... a winch would have been a god sent!
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.
10/10.
Cannot Fault the vid.
Thank You.
About 40 years ago I had an FJ40 and was driving around Walhalla with some friends I was leading, and started to drive down one off the Deep Creek tracks as I went past the point of not being able to reverse back up I realized it was to steep so I had to go down. At the bottom I could not find a way out the other side so I committed to try to get back up the way I came, needless to say I got stuck halfway up, none of the convoy had a winch so we had to use a Tirfor to try and pull me back up. In the end I burnt the clutch out trying to help make it easier on the Tirfor, so we ended up tying my car to a tree to stop it rolling back and went into Walhalla to try and get some help, that's were it stayed overnight. The next day with the help of a local with a C1300 International truck and about 300 meters of steel cable and 14 hours we got the cruiser to the top of the hill.
A winch would most definitely be an advantage for us when we toured the cape solo. Lacking a winch and being solo limited us to attack tracks that we were confident we could get through, thus we missed doing the Frenchmans track which was on our bucket list but due to rain prior to our arrival it wasn't a viable option. Its still most definitely on the bucket list once we install a winch.
For someone that's learning how to winch I think this is the best video I've seen literally talking about physics great job keep up the great work thank you from Florida USA
We have a property that the family goes camping on. The ground is normally very hard, but at Easter a mates 4wd broke through the grass on the surface and sunk to its chassis after other cars had driven over the same spot. We only had 2 recovery tracks and a shovel, plus a snatch strap. After lots of digging in the sticky mud we managed to snatch it out. As there wasn't much room for snatching a winch would have made it a simple recovery. A winch would also be great piece of mind for future camping trips with my family.
A winch would have been handy when i took some family and international visitors up the bush in the company car. We got stranded (diffed out) for an entire day, called a mate who staked 2 tyres on his way to tow us out. Endend up doing a 6 line pull with rope and a 1/2 dozen blokes and pulled the bogged car out with man power. Bloody wish we had a winch that day. Cheers boys
Best time I could have used a winch? About 10 years back a friend and I decided to take a “short cut” through a short bit of bush about 10 at night, low and behold my mate slipped into some ruts and we went straight down to the axles. After 4 hours of chocking, digging and getting covered in mud we had to walk a few kms down the road to get a mate to two us out. Our 5 minute short cut cost us 5 hours and one hell of an adventure.
the highest level of load resistance your vehicle will face will be 3 times it's weight. you do not need to account for gravity, incline, surface friction coefficient.
to determine the minimum winch capacity you should use for your rig you want to be able to perform a 3:1 mechanical advantage (triple line) as the worse case scenario. that means you will be utilizing 2 tackles (pulleys) which will add additional 10% of tackle resistance per tackle based on your load resistance.
In order to safety recovery your rig the fall line force must be lesser than the winch(and winch components) capacity.
Practical example for a 3:1 (triple line)
4000lb rig x 3 resistance = 12 000lb load resistance
12 000lb resistance x 20% (2 tackles)= 2400lb additional tackle resistance
12 000lb + 2400lb = 14 400lb total load resistance.
14 400lb / 3 mechanical advantage= 4800lb fall line force
you must have a winch (and winch components) that has a rating greater than 4800lb to safely recover your rig with a 3:1 mechanical advantage in the worse case scenario (completely bogged down)
Practical example for a 2:1 (double line) if you do not wish to require extensive amount of line to recover.
4000lb rig x 3 resistance = 12 000lb load resistance
12 000lb resistance x 10% (2 tackles)= 1200lb additional tackle resistance
12 000lb + 1200lb = 13 200lb total load resistance.
13 200lb / 2 mechanical advantage= 6600lb fall line force
you must have a winch(and winch components) that has a rating greater than 6600lb to safely recover your rig with a 2:1 mechanical advantage in the worse case scenario (completely bogged down)
most videos of people utilizing winches of stuck vehicle dangerously pass the Working Load Limit (WLL) of their winch (and winch component) equipment. The Working Load Limit is 1/3 of the breaking limit of the equipment. So self recovery equipment with 6000lb working load limits will have a breaking limit of 18 000lb under normal conditions. Because of this many people put wear and strain on their equipment without realizing the dangers that they are putting themselves. It will work for a couple times until the wear eventually takes over and the line snaps.
You want to ensure that the fall line force is lower than the working load limit of every portion of the winch equipment. (winch, line, hook, straps, shackles, chains)
You are able to change the fall line force by raising the mechanical advantage. It is however unnecessary as the most you will require is a 3:1 mechanical advantage, unless you are utilizing a severely undersized winch for the job.
Bought a 96 LR Disco last week to take my 8yo son out in. He is 4WD 24/7 obsessed! Shauno is his idol. On our first trip out I realized the previous owner had put the control box on upside down and was full of water, completely rusted out! A decent winch would have saved us from re-laying the Maxtrax about 13,000 times 😂
my first time got bogged I was at the exit of bribie Island, sand super super soft, total 5HRS of digging, planning ect. 🤦♂️
I can't forget many ppl try to help, also many were watching and recording the situation..
with maxtrax and some logs but nothing.. a winch would've be handy..
the following week I bought a winch
For some silly reason I took my young family 4wd touring when my kids were 2 1/2 and about 6 months. We were following trip notes, and in what I would now describe as a lack of sleep phase I turned left instead of right. We 4wd up the hill noting to my unimpressed wife, it’s a bit slippery and I’d hate to miscalculate and drop into the ruts. What happened next is I cracked through the top layer and slid sidewards into the ruts, couldn’t move forward, couldn’t go backwards. By this stage Master 6 months needed a feed. So got the family out…through the passenger windows, set mum and bub up to breastfeed. For the next FOUR hours I hand winched out of that mess. It has been the one and only time I have used that Tirfor Hand Winch. So…after getting us back on the track completely exhausted…I reversed back down the hill………straight into a tree 🤦♂️….that guys is why I need a winch to go back and tackle that hill 22 years later 🤣
In 1996, My Wife Found the Perfect location to build our forever home in the Ozarks, with a beautiful 30' Dogwood tree as the view up the valley, from what is now the front porch. While showing the contractor the location we decided on, I buried my 1989, FJ62, up to the bottom of the rear windows in a spring against the Dogwood tree. If I had a winch then, We would not had to cut the tree down to drive out, She still hasn't forgiven me for that! She just doesn't care for the Red Bud that grew in it's place. Apparently there isn't a statute of limitations for that crime. Thanks for Great Information!
I could of used a DriveTech winch back when i was 17yo, i only weighed about 70kg and i got tackled my this woman weighing 120kg. She was on top of me, tonging my face, i couldn't move and everyone was laughing. I was scarred for life. If i had a DriveTech winch i would of dragged myself out from under the mass using a double line pull and abruptly absconded. :)
Probably the best recovery video ive ever seen. But id like to add. You touched on kinetic recovery. But were way off on how that works. If u have a 15mtr snatch strap. You literally need to use 75% of it for it to work properly. Meaning a 15mtr snatch. You should have read of recovery vehicle 4mtrs from stuck vehicle. And absolutely plant it to use all kinetic energy. If thats too crazy. Always winch. Too often people are quick to snactch and dont do it properly.
Should also touch on what static recovery is.
Great video!! Just thought od put my 2cents in
Thanks for the excellent advice, Jock! I'm just now getting into 4WD, and this type of content is invaluable to me. Much appreciated!
Luckily I have never been in a situation to have to use my winch in anger yet. Lucky because it is just a cheap winch that came with the car when I bought it. A new 1200lb Drivetech winch on my LC200 would be great in case I ever see Graham stuck in his Y62 down south of W.A. Thanks for the great winching advice. Taking a deep breath before starting any recovery is great advice from Jocko, the Smooth Operator!
4 years ago I got an 80 series.
Take it to Kenilworth stock with a mate to drive some easy tracks.
Be impressed how capable it is.
Find a boghole and think I've bought maxtrax, we'll be alright!
(we weren't alright)
Bogged and had to walk 4k back to campground to ask someone to pull us out.
Live and learn! But definitely could have used a winch in this situation :)
Like many of the stories here, a winch would have saved my old prado from a drowning
A few years ago, me and mate, plus his dad went for a scope for some cliff fishing down in the Fitzgerald River National Park. We'd taken the week off work, and the first day in we went to plan where we might go.
We only took my car, and on the way out it was sensational, pushing in through some old tracks and found a few really promising spots.
The way home however, took a bold route through a muddy puddle and boy was it deep. First time I've felt a 4wd float. Immediately tried to reverse out but no luck.
The water was up to the door handles and and so my mate and his dad jumped out the windows and grabbed the 2 TRED tracks out. We tried for about 10minutes with no luck, it was suctioned to the bottom like nothing else. Finally had both him and his dad on the back left hand corner, rocking the car with the water sloshing over the centre console, and we got the traction to get out backward. How it kept running was a mystery but damn I thanked the Toyota gods for smiling.
Once out, stopped and got the soaked air-filter out and let it dry for a good hour. Finally got it in, started and limped home. Sadly it was an economic write-off, with the salty water electrical gremlins causing havoc.
Damn with a winch it would have been out in a minute. Few lessons learnt, ALWAYS CHECK THE LINE PROPERLY. Don't let the emotion get in the way of actually planning what ya gotta do.
Now setting up for trip around Aus with my partner for '23 and boy would a winch and recovery set-up make me a more confident boy haha don't want a repeat of it!
Got my 80 series about a year ago, took it out bush with a mate literally the weekend I got it. My mate went through soft mushy black mud, 76 series, 3” lift on 35s. Breezed through it. I went through on a sagged 2” and 31s. Bogged straight down to the chassis. Tried snatching from the front and rear but nothing worked (neither of us had winches) after 4 hours of digging and trying to snatch I was still stuck. My mates partner called her uncle who come out in a 79 WITH a winch and finally got out after another 2 hours of winching. Safe to say it’ll be handy having a winch 😅
I love all the tips! I’m brand new to 4 wheel driving and your video has been the most helpful getting unstuck. The winch would have been a day saver one time when I got stuck in 1-2 feet of snow while driving to a lake to ice fish on my tiny Honda civic. I thought my car being light would help but made it more stuck. I ended up getting stuck so far that the guy who came to tow me out also got stuck and needed to get towed out himself. I love your guys work!
I went for a 4wd by myself along the beach one morning not far from home. I decided to go into the Sandhills and got bogged on full flex. No lockers, no winch, just a snatch strap and a set of maxtraxx. Couldn’t get out by myself. Had to leave my ute, walk home and wait for Dad to get home from work to give me tow. Also managed to miss my 12.30pm tee time. A winch would’ve saved my bacon!
New to 4WD'img, alone and exploring (not too far from home) I applied the "she'll be right" approach when faced with a bog hole and a trailer full of fire wood.
Next thing I'm axle deep and spraying mud all over the joint. Out comes the wood, off comes the trailer and I got pulled out backwards by a bloke passing by. Several lessons learned that day, including she won't always be right and a winch on the front would be bloody handy!!
Every time i go out 4wdriving i wish my dad had an electric winch he still uses a hand winch from the 80s and it has taken us 2 hours to use the winch to get us like 20 meters. And its also very embarrassing when my dad stuffs around with his hand winch and everyone else watching him i reckon an electric winch would be and essential itam for us.
Great tips jocko. I own an ln106 as well and nothing can stop them. Iv got a winch on mine but it’s completely broken and there is no saving it so it’s makes situations even harder when your stuck,everyone saying “oh you can just winch out”, “Nup doesn’t work”. I was once stuck in a bog hole for 8 hours and snatching wasn’t working at all, first track into a day of wheeling. If I had a winch probably would of be out in 30 min. Ended up calling afew Mates with a winch and 8 hours later a winch came to the rescue. And I was out. Big pain but I’m out now
Glasshouse Mountains are my local, I’m wheeling an n60 Lux on 31s. I can’t think of a trip when I didn’t need a winch! Probably most memorably though, the day when I was fully bottomed out of south powerlines, a bit difficult to drive when all 4 wheels are in the air! Thank goodness for mates who wheel with you
Now if this was a Shauno vid it would be about how to get your 4WD stuck, and in need of recovery...🤣
PS - I need a winch to practice Jock's recovery techniques...
That time I parked just off the gravel track on the way to Gibraltar rock. All looked fine but the Landy sunk to the chassis in seconds after stopping. Broke the crust. Couldn't dig it out, was like soup and maxtrax didn't work. Worst part was having a large tree directly in front of the car about 10m away. Had to walk to get Signal and call a mate out for rescue... Should of had a winch...
I really could’ve done with a winch on my first proper 4WD trip. After several days of heavy rain, all the tracks in the Vic High Country were barely drivable. I found myself in my 80 series with bald 31” AT’s, trying to make it down a huge hill with a sheer drop only meters away. After the slowest and most terrifying drive of my life, I managed to get the old bus down the hill (with the very limited driving skills I had) whilst I came very close to going off the edge, and nearly sliding into the back of my mates Hilux. If I had a winch, I could’ve winched off of any 1 of the millions of trees in the high country, using the trees as an anchor, could’ve saved the stress and a new set of pants 😂
Went to a small track, about 200 meters, with my mum to show her how the 106 went. It had rained for the last week straight. Poked my head up the track looked easy enough, mum was keen. Rounded a corner to a 10 meter bog hole that didn’t even look like it had water in it, was just thick as mud. I was in high range going a bit too fast to stop so I tried to push through it. My poor old A/T’s we’re looking more like drag slicks at this point. Got about halfway through until we stopped moving and the wheels were spinning like crazy. We spent about 6 hours trying to pack logs under the tyres, to no avail, until my brother finally got off work and came to the rescue and snatched us out. Bloody winch would’ve got us out in about 2 minutes. Sorry mumma ❤️
My first ever 4WD trip as a kid in dad’s brand new “unboggable” Range Rover back in the 80’s. Coorong in SA, soft wet sand, bogged to the eyeballs. We were all digging and digging. Mum had to walk for hours to find another 4WD to help out. We only just got out before the tide got us. A winch and a spare wheel or dead-man would have sorted us out.