I’ve seen a winch snap and fly right back toward the driver, completely deforming the poor dudes face almost went through him. I’m glad you emphasized how important it is to use a blanket
I certainly don't want to start an argument, there is absolutely more than one way to skin a cat! With that being said using a shackle with an adequate working load limit is far safer than hooking your recovery strap directly into your winch hook, the hook is designed to pull at the thickest part not at the tip (which is what the recovery strap will do). Shackles are much much stronger than the hook as it is a "closed loop" ie there are no open sides... we all know how strong a circle is and if you remove part of the circle the strength is severely reduced. Just my 2cents from a towing and recovery operator of many many years! Other wise excellent content and awesome advise keep up the great work!
I agree 100%! The Bow shackle is designed to handle loads from various directions, whereas the hook is designed to only handle straight-line loads. I am a retired DoD District Fire Chief/EMT, Vehicle Extrication Instructor, with 40 years of off-roading and winching experience.
The point of leaving the shackle out is to remove weight from the set up. In case something else snaps. Not necessarily worried about the hook or shackle. But when something breaks a heavy shackle becomes a very deadly projectile
@@townsendliving9750 -- I have just recently gotten into the idea of offroading and I have been watching a lot of this guys videos and he never really said why not to use the shackle. I figured as much, but thank you for confirming that for me.
Thank you for putting a video out there to help people, most of it was good. I am a heavy wrecker operator and have training in heavy recovery. First thing I disagree with is putting your hook in the strap. 1st-most hooks get hooked to hard objects causing burs that will cut the strap and 2nd-tbe radius of most hooks and small winches such as the ones on our personal vehicles is to small to properly hold both ends of a strap. Also I will NEVER go strap to strap without a connecting device, the heat and friction will burn/cut them. Also VERY important when running a double line... To keep it simple math, if your winch is pulling 9,000 the 2nd line is also pulling 9,000 therefore that snatch block and it's connected rigging as well as the tree are seeing 18,000. That is going to be where it fails. Your information was pretty good and will help many people that have no experience, but add this info for your use as well.
I am a newbie to off roading and I have found your video really helpful for someone who has never owned nor operated a winch in his life. Thanks for the well made videos, subscribed and will be checking out more.
1 week ago: ain't gonna watch this because it's gonna make me want to spend a heap of money on a winch 1 week later: almost broke watching with a 9.5k mounted on my homemade bullbar about to go for some rock crawling. Great content mate! Thanks very much!
I haven’t read all the comments so far but here is mine. The setup in the video is not going to give you any mechanical advantage and will just add unnecessary friction to the pull. With the pulley attached to your anchor it becomes a change of direction pulley. To gain mechanical advantage the pulley must be moving, ie. attached to your stuck vehicle. An easy way to calculate your mechanical advantage is to count the number of lines entering and leaving A “MOVING” block, minus the friction. Example, with a single block attached to your stuck vehicle, one line into the block, one line out of the block equals a 2 to 1 advantage, minus the friction. You will need twice the line to the necessary distance.
Since i started using winch blankets lifes improved for me more than ever! I make use of em in everything i do, swimming, running, layin roof tiles, building birthday piniatas, pooping and even making toast! If You dont use winch blankets then stuf-you! All jokes aside, they arent a bad idea. Im positive that i never want to feel 4 tons of kinetic energy in the form of a steel hook or cable hittng me at mach 4.
Hi Ronny, thanks for taking the time to explain all of these things carefully, especially helpful for newbies and up and comers like me! All to often people are just "expected" to know how to use these things and quite often are afraid to ask for help. Much appreciated mate!
Very helpful information 👌. Recently I bought a Toyota Tacoma and we had to use a winch multiple times during a 16 hour trek on a very difficult trail. Thanks again.
Great job with this, Ronny. I realize it's five years old but the concepts are still the same. I agree with you regarding the double blankets - especially with the two line - it just makes sense. One thing I don't think people do enough of (from talking to them) is practice winching. The time to figure this out isn't when you're stuck - it's when you know you can just drive out if needed.
Ronny, Thanks for the great explanation here. I just mounted my first winch ever (Warn 9.5 cti-s) and your videos are great. No music or fluff, just thorough explanations and great tips! Keep up the good work!
@@Ronny_Dahl I love your logic on using two winch blankets. Branching off that... If you only have one, maybe it's a good idea to place it maybe 1/4 of the way and closer to "all the connections" on a single line pull.
Thank you for the video, I am going to use it to help train some members of our special operations division of an emergency medical services agency. Our personnel frequently use heavy duty trucks with 16,500 Warn winches to recover ambulances stuck in snow or mud, along with other rescue situations. This is a great starter video for me to introduce these tactics to new members, thanks again! - Deputy Chief of Training, Sumner EMS, TN
Great posting! Just purchased my first winch for my new Jeep and have it installed. Never have used a winch before. I have watched this posting a few times now and I now feel I can use it safely and know what accessories to put in my storage bag. Thanks for posting!
Hi Ronny, Winch newbie here in California. In fact, I am installing my Warn Zeon 10s Winch on my Grand Cherokee tomorrow. Using a hidden winch mount made in Australia (Chief Products). Anyway, Thanks for taking the time to make this video, it helped me with answering some basic questions and I appreciate the focus on safety. I see lots of ego in many of the comments on here; but making a critical comment is easy; taking time to make a comprehensive video takes a bit more effort. I appreciate your contribution for the folks like me. Cheers, Rob
Just bought a new winch for my 2019 polaris rzr xp neing installed today. Thank you for this video,now I lnow what acessories to buy and understand the basics.
Excellent video! I will add that I was a crane operator for a few yrs in the military. I used to spool out the stainless steel cable and thoroughly clean it once a quarter (degreaser and hose). Let dry, then apply a light coat of (motor) oil with an oil damped cloth. This also allowed for a detailed inspection. If there are any links or frayed cables, you'll find them quickly doing the oil step.
That was a really great tutorial!! I’ve been in the woods and setting up rigging my entire life, and it looks like you have been to :-) there’s a few things that I’ve gotten Relax on like safety zones it’s good to see this video and remind me to get back on my game. Thanks again brother be safe.
Howdy from Virginia USA, GREAT VIDEO! Just installed a winch on my 97 Ford F350 and new to using a winch. Even though I’ve been in trucking my whole life and learned a lot about blocking, bracing, strapping ,and so on ,which really comes down to knowing how to use equipment to accomplish your purpose, I believe in always being willing to listen and learn from others. I can buy all the equipment, but when it comes down to doing the job, I’m going to watch and follow the professionals and all the tips and tricks of the trade that I can! I say this from the experience of trying to train others in the trucking industry, especially with using the equipment of the trade, like lift gates, pallet jack, etc. Learned a lot and will be watching further videos. Thanks
Gday Ronny, Im an Aussie living in Java&our winching is OFTEN&EXTREME. A big no no is to move in towards the winching line for 'any' reason, we move the dampeners (read:blankets)along the line with a stick (read:bamboo) at least a metre long. Hope you consider this method as sensible also&promote it. Stay safe&hope to see you in the jungle one day.
I'm new to this and found the illustrations most helpful..the internet is simply the best. Too bad the world is hell bent on doing crazy to itself. Keep up the good work down under. Jimmy..
Being a firefighter and seeing a lot of things I think it’s a good idea for the shackle to be around the tree protector because the hook could cut the strap
right i just wanted to say thank you for making this video i just ordered my first winch and hope to be mounting it soon. I feel that i am now more prepared to perform winching operations. thanks again mate happy trails.
Great vid. personally I'd use a shackle inbetween strop around the tree and the winchline, distributes load a bit better and puts the hook under less strain. However, i completely see your point about metal flying everywhere if something were to go wrong!
Nice work here, always worth mentioning the safety tips, a lot of people don't realize how dangerous it can be when a cable gives way. I have a Toyota Tacoma outfitted for overland travel. Most of my modifications are products from Australia. You guys have the best off road gear. Cheers from America.
thats funny because Ive been in situations like that. no or go. or when someone asks "left?" and someone says "right" and they turn right but they meant right as like a confirmation lol.
i see lots of people watching a how to/techniques video and the comments are all saying "your wrong your wrong" ect ect. If u knew how to do it better why are u watching?
You don’t know what the contents of a video is going to be until you watch it. Everyone is free to criticize bad advice. I don’t know anything about winching ( I don’t even know where to find trails), but I’m interested in the importante skills needed to safely go exploring. I wouldn’t know how to winch without first watching a video.
Thanks so much for this video. I just got a GMC 2500 4x4 Duramax and it has all the capabilities of winching but I had no idea. This video gave me worlds of great info.
good video bud, i do a fair bit of winching and for alot of years now to. An option you can use for number 6 tip is use your spare wheel at the base of the hill, so when you spool in the tyre will role as spooling in and keeps your cable/rope of the ground. have use this method a number of times with no further risk adding when winching
Thank you for making this video. Very informative. I feel a little more confident now and setting my suburban up with a winch. And for the other equipment I'll need besides.
Us in the states have gotten away from using a hook. We use a closed winching system called factor 55. Plz look them up, much safer. All the other tips are epic mate. Very well done!
You almost got this video 100% Almost Ok first thing working load limit ? On your cable ,block ,screwpin shackle, how many layers do you have on your winch you loose 11% per layer on your winch. Good luck on your next video.
Thank you for this very insightful compendium of tips that cover so many of the aspects (including SAFETY) of winching. I sincerely believe that you have prevented many injuries to those who are not intimately familiar with all of the possible details of this potentially dangerous activity! You should always be acutely familiar with all aspects of any dangerous activity before you try accomplishing it, in order to prevent serious injuries or death.
thanks for this tips! I did a heavy shipping container pull (25,000 pound drag) with a 3 to 1 advantage with a 12k winch, lots of connections. In the end my pull was successful. BTW, straps scare me, easy to damage on sharp objects like rocks and metal, they seem like rubber bands when pulled with thousands of pounds, I think there are two different types of straps tow and which. I really like shackles though, just need to stay in there working load limit 3/4 shackles are easy to push them way past there limit.
Glad to see you use the protective sleeve on such as soft shackles, recovery straps, etc, so many on You Tube don' t seem to know what this sleeve should be used for.... good on you! this and other things are why I use your videos to learn new and safe way"s to recover, etc. Keep the good stuff coming! From the States, MJMcDowell
Hi Ronnie, good video but I'd mention that double line pulls don't double the captivity of the winch, it just halves the load on the winch. Thinking of it this way is safer. You will double the load on your winch mount of anchored back to it and double the load on the snatch block so make sure your block and strop are rated to double the winch capacity. Directional pulls cause surprisingly high loads on the snatch block/tree end.
Enjoyed this vid. The bow shackle aka clevis as known in my part of the country should be tight enough not to deform. Never leave it loose as you recommend carry a cresent. Under really high tension it will deform. Using a 20 ton winch and much larger bow shackles you quickly learn pay attention to highly experienced operaters.
Excellent information! Just one important correction, and you likely have heard this already. The winch capacity rating is based on the double line pull, and the single line can only achieve half of the winches rating. Thus, the double line pull does not double the winches capacity, it only meets the manufacturers maximum specification.
My wife's dad told me to weigh the lines down with a glass jar filled with rusty metal shrapnel that has been smeared with wet dingo feces. I don't think he likes me very much.
Thanks for making this video, It was very well videoed and fully explained. Certainly lots of helpful tips to keeping safe, which is the most impotant thing
not only do you get mechanical advantage from the pully, you also have less wraps around the winch drum which effectively increases the gearing because the winch is working on a smaller diameter when there are less turns of cable on the drum.
you mentioned the bow shackles and how you should use them as least as possible. very good points you made, except with using the extension straps. yours had the sleeves on them. the reason for that is attaching one strap to anther directly onto each other will cause the fibres to bind together, and sometimes makes it impossible to seperate the two from each other. the sleeves stop this from happening, which is a great idea to reduce having more heavy metal pieces to potentially fly around. if the straps don't have the sleeves, use a bow shackle to attach two straps, or you'll end up with one by the end.
Usually the weakest link is the cable/rope for two reasons - expense and drum capacity. It is easy to get tree savers, snatch blocks, and shackles whose working load limit far exceeds the winch capacity. If you use the double line, when you get the vehicle moving, it will have half of the load on it it would have if you single line it. Always plan on the stall load of the winch being less than the working load limit of any portion of your rigging to avoid breaking something. With straps (including tree savers), always basket when you can instead of choker.
Ben here, hailing from the U.S. My favorite vid is the safe winching tips and tricks vid for 2 main reasons: 1) the deep man voice announcing tip numbers revirbirates through my spine and tickles my offroading soul. 2) There are multiple shots of RD wrapping, swinging, strapping, and choking large girthy tree members... this isn't strange, is it? cheers!
Run a 4x4 club. I always send this video to people starting out. Because this is the safest way to winch. I’ve seen too many lines break and go through windows, or smash into hoods/ bumpers.
I will have to say this is a great video accept you left one thing out. That is anchoring the recovery vehicle to a tree,colomn,bigger truck or multiple trucks to prevent sliding in the process of recovering a stuck vehicle. Other than that great video. Im from houston texas and a member of houston area offroad recovery group on facebook.
I'm new to this and got stuck in my jeep for the first time, I thought if I had a winch I could have got out! But I didn't really consider all this safety stuff till I saw your video, so thank you! From the newb (:
have to disagree on clevis for connecting hook to strap. most hooks arent big enough to safely connect a strap too. You must hook it up right tho. and your picture was backwards. the pen goes thru the strap and the hook is connected to the bow piece. this keeps the hook from pullling against the weak point of the shackle
Oscar, I hope you're not a Rigger. The hook actually lifts on the pin. If you use the slings on the pin they can 1. Roll on the pin and slightly undo it, changing the integrity of the shackle, and 2. Slings bind up on the pin causing friction and extreme heat, changing the integrity of the sling. 3. If your using more than one sling you generally have an apex on the slings which puts pressure on the part of the shackle that's not designed for it, again taking away the integrity of the shackle. 20+ yrs of lifting heavy shit:)
I haven't read all the comments, but how about adding, as a tip, the need to have the engine running when winching, op put charge back in the battery. It's probably obvious to 95% of people, but some newbies might not know.
also if you dont have spare winch blankets to put over your line you can also use a jacket or a backpack . either will help absorb forces and redirect it away from the line of flight.
I’ve seen a winch snap and fly right back toward the driver, completely deforming the poor dudes face almost went through him. I’m glad you emphasized how important it is to use a blanket
I certainly don't want to start an argument, there is absolutely more than one way to skin a cat! With that being said using a shackle with an adequate working load limit is far safer than hooking your recovery strap directly into your winch hook, the hook is designed to pull at the thickest part not at the tip (which is what the recovery strap will do). Shackles are much much stronger than the hook as it is a "closed loop" ie there are no open sides... we all know how strong a circle is and if you remove part of the circle the strength is severely reduced. Just my 2cents from a towing and recovery operator of many many years! Other wise excellent content and awesome advise keep up the great work!
The Prerunner Project you are correct. I’m a rigging engineer.
I agree 100%! The Bow shackle is designed to handle loads from various directions, whereas the hook is designed to only handle straight-line loads. I am a retired DoD District Fire Chief/EMT, Vehicle Extrication Instructor, with 40 years of off-roading and winching experience.
So a 4.5T bow is stronger than a open hook that is rated to 32T?
The point of leaving the shackle out is to remove weight from the set up. In case something else snaps. Not necessarily worried about the hook or shackle. But when something breaks a heavy shackle becomes a very deadly projectile
@@townsendliving9750 -- I have just recently gotten into the idea of offroading and I have been watching a lot of this guys videos and he never really said why not to use the shackle. I figured as much, but thank you for confirming that for me.
Brief, to the point, knowledgeable, clear, no-nonsense, no silly show off stuff - exactly what I was looking for. Your fan from now 😉
Thank you for putting a video out there to help people, most of it was good. I am a heavy wrecker operator and have training in heavy recovery. First thing I disagree with is putting your hook in the strap. 1st-most hooks get hooked to hard objects causing burs that will cut the strap and 2nd-tbe radius of most hooks and small winches such as the ones on our personal vehicles is to small to properly hold both ends of a strap. Also I will NEVER go strap to strap without a connecting device, the heat and friction will burn/cut them. Also VERY important when running a double line... To keep it simple math, if your winch is pulling 9,000 the 2nd line is also pulling 9,000 therefore that snatch block and it's connected rigging as well as the tree are seeing 18,000. That is going to be where it fails. Your information was pretty good and will help many people that have no experience, but add this info for your use as well.
I am a newbie to off roading and I have found your video really helpful for someone who has never owned nor operated a winch in his life. Thanks for the well made videos, subscribed and will be checking out more.
1 week ago: ain't gonna watch this because it's gonna make me want to spend a heap of money on a winch
1 week later: almost broke watching with a 9.5k mounted on my homemade bullbar about to go for some rock crawling.
Great content mate! Thanks very much!
I haven’t read all the comments so far but here is mine. The setup in the video is not going to give you any mechanical advantage and will just add unnecessary friction to the pull. With the pulley attached to your anchor it becomes a change of direction pulley. To gain mechanical advantage the pulley must be moving, ie. attached to your stuck vehicle. An easy way to calculate your mechanical advantage is to count the number of lines entering and leaving A “MOVING” block, minus the friction. Example, with a single block attached to your stuck vehicle, one line into the block, one line out of the block equals a 2 to 1 advantage, minus the friction. You will need twice the line to the necessary distance.
Exactly correct. We proved this today pulling a vehicle across the lawn by hand. Much easier one way over the other
This is one of the most thorough videos I've found on anything. You are awesome. Everything is very well explained. Thank you.
Do you think when Ronny sleeps he covers himself with all his winch blankets?
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Since i started using winch blankets lifes improved for me more than ever! I make use of em in everything i do, swimming, running, layin roof tiles, building birthday piniatas, pooping and even making toast! If You dont use winch blankets then stuf-you!
All jokes aside, they arent a bad idea. Im positive that i never want to feel 4 tons of kinetic energy in the form of a steel hook or cable hittng me at mach 4.
I think he does.
yes definitely
Hi Ronny, thanks for taking the time to explain all of these things carefully, especially helpful for newbies and up and comers like me! All to often people are just "expected" to know how to use these things and quite often are afraid to ask for help. Much appreciated mate!
Very helpful information 👌.
Recently I bought a Toyota Tacoma and we had to use a winch multiple times during a 16 hour trek on a very difficult trail.
Thanks again.
About to buy my first winch (Tundra) and have never used one before, this video was great. I am much more confident now. Thanks!
Great job with this, Ronny. I realize it's five years old but the concepts are still the same. I agree with you regarding the double blankets - especially with the two line - it just makes sense. One thing I don't think people do enough of (from talking to them) is practice winching. The time to figure this out isn't when you're stuck - it's when you know you can just drive out if needed.
Ronny,
Thanks for the great explanation here. I just mounted my first winch ever (Warn 9.5 cti-s) and your videos are great.
No music or fluff, just thorough explanations and great tips!
Keep up the good work!
Cheers waza
@@Ronny_Dahl
I love your logic on using two winch blankets. Branching off that... If you only have one, maybe it's a good idea to place it maybe 1/4 of the way and closer to "all the connections" on a single line pull.
Thank you for the video, I am going to use it to help train some members of our special operations division of an emergency medical services agency. Our personnel frequently use heavy duty trucks with 16,500 Warn winches to recover ambulances stuck in snow or mud, along with other rescue situations. This is a great starter video for me to introduce these tactics to new members, thanks again! - Deputy Chief of Training, Sumner EMS, TN
Thanks mate, great to hear its being put the good use
Great posting! Just purchased my first winch for my new Jeep and have it installed. Never have used a winch before. I have watched this posting a few times now and I now feel I can use it safely and know what accessories to put in my storage bag.
Thanks for posting!
Thank you Ronny for taking the time to do this. I learned a lot that I did not know.
This is a very good vid. You have an excellent "delivery". I would love to see you doing more videos about everything you know.
Thanks Ronny, I'm new to winching and I know safety is number one. I learned much.
Hi Ronny, Winch newbie here in California. In fact, I am installing my Warn Zeon 10s Winch on my Grand Cherokee tomorrow. Using a hidden winch mount made in Australia (Chief Products). Anyway, Thanks for taking the time to make this video, it helped me with answering some basic questions and I appreciate the focus on safety. I see lots of ego in many of the comments on here; but making a critical comment is easy; taking time to make a comprehensive video takes a bit more effort. I appreciate your contribution for the folks like me. Cheers, Rob
Just bought a new winch for my 2019 polaris rzr xp neing installed today. Thank you for this video,now I lnow what acessories to buy and understand the basics.
Excellent video! I will add that I was a crane operator for a few yrs in the military. I used to spool out the stainless steel cable and thoroughly clean it once a quarter (degreaser and hose). Let dry, then apply a light coat of (motor) oil with an oil damped cloth.
This also allowed for a detailed inspection. If there are any links or frayed cables, you'll find them quickly doing the oil step.
Awesome tips for a winching newbie like myself. Thank you for taking the time to break things down to barebones the way you do.
Ronnie, thank you for doing such a good job spreading the knowledge!
That was a really great tutorial!! I’ve been in the woods and setting up rigging my entire life, and it looks like you have been to :-) there’s a few things that I’ve gotten Relax on like safety zones it’s good to see this video and remind me to get back on my game. Thanks again brother be safe.
Howdy from Virginia USA, GREAT VIDEO! Just installed a winch on my 97 Ford F350 and new to using a winch. Even though I’ve been in trucking my whole life and learned a lot about blocking, bracing, strapping ,and so on ,which really comes down to knowing how to use equipment to accomplish your purpose, I believe in always being willing to listen and learn from others. I can buy all the equipment, but when it comes down to doing the job, I’m going to watch and follow the professionals and all the tips and tricks of the trade that I can! I say this from the experience of trying to train others in the trucking industry, especially with using the equipment of the trade, like lift gates, pallet jack, etc. Learned a lot and will be watching further videos. Thanks
This video is a must see for all new winch users and those who are going to new to overlanding!! Excellent information!!!
Excellent! I really appreciate you showing the right way, and the wrong way, to do recovery. Both really help. Thanks!!
What a great video Ronny. I thought I knew how to use a block and tackle but you taught me how to do it correctly. Thank you and best wishes. Len
Gday Ronny, Im an Aussie living in Java&our winching is OFTEN&EXTREME. A big no no is to move in towards the winching line for 'any' reason, we move the dampeners (read:blankets)along the line with a stick (read:bamboo) at least a metre long. Hope you consider this method as sensible also&promote it. Stay safe&hope to see you in the jungle one day.
I'm new to this and found the illustrations most helpful..the internet is simply the best. Too bad the world is hell bent on doing crazy to itself. Keep up the good work down under. Jimmy..
Being a firefighter and seeing a lot of things I think it’s a good idea for the shackle to be around the tree protector because the hook could cut the strap
As I'm not that experienced wiv recovery etc,I found your tips very helpful,with a great explanation to the how's an whys.thanks
right i just wanted to say thank you for making this video i just ordered my first winch and hope to be mounting it soon. I feel that i am now more prepared to perform winching operations. thanks again mate happy trails.
Great vid. personally I'd use a shackle inbetween strop around the tree and the winchline, distributes load a bit better and puts the hook under less strain. However, i completely see your point about metal flying everywhere if something were to go wrong!
Straight forward, easy to understand. Best winching video ever.
thanks for the feedback Roland Thro
Well done mate. I watched this video years ago and have yet to get buried, but needed to brush up on my winching. Gracias amigo.
Nice work here, always worth mentioning the safety tips, a lot of people don't realize how dangerous it can be when a cable gives way. I have a Toyota Tacoma outfitted for overland travel. Most of my modifications are products from Australia. You guys have the best off road gear. Cheers from America.
Thanks Andrew, yeah the amount of 4wd shops in Australia is pretty crazy!
However Most jeep mods found in Australia are from the U.S.
Being new to 4x4 and winching your video was very informative and helpful, thanks. I look forward to watching more.
My dad always used "Whoa!" and "Go!" so we never could tell what he was saying over the engine noise!! :-)
thats funny because Ive been in situations like that. no or go. or when someone asks "left?" and someone says "right" and they turn right but they meant right as like a confirmation lol.
Excellent video. 6 years later. Much appreciated from Tennessee in U.S.
I learn something from almost every video. Glad it's here.
i see lots of people watching a how to/techniques video and the comments are all saying "your wrong your wrong" ect ect. If u knew how to do it better why are u watching?
Way to make a pointless baseless comment. Yeah it was two years ago yet here it is and it's still stupid.
You don’t know what the contents of a video is going to be until you watch it. Everyone is free to criticize bad advice. I don’t know anything about winching ( I don’t even know where to find trails), but I’m interested in the importante skills needed to safely go exploring. I wouldn’t know how to winch without first watching a video.
That's the hardest think with vehicle hobbies is everyone has such strong 'firm' opinions on everything
That's a good point, and if people would put their egos aside, they may actually learn something useful.
Thank you for your time here. I'm new to winching.
Thanks so much for this video. I just got a GMC 2500 4x4 Duramax and it has all the capabilities of winching but I had no idea. This video gave me worlds of great info.
Great coverage of basic winching and blanket placement. Love it when you say now get the hell out of the way.😳✌
I have now remembered that I need to use the bow shackle all the time... great movies, thanks for all the efforts you put in
good video bud, i do a fair bit of winching and for alot of years now to. An option you can use for number 6 tip is use your spare wheel at the base of the hill, so when you spool in the tyre will role as spooling in and keeps your cable/rope of the ground. have use this method a number of times with no further risk adding when winching
Nice one will keep that one in mind
that's a good one, I seen Malcom Douglas do that one once
Just getting into all of this....so much to learn, Great INFO and advice. Tx Ronny
Excellent video! I just installed a new winch on my ATV and learned quite a bit from your video. Thanks!
Thank you for making this video. Very informative. I feel a little more confident now and setting my suburban up with a winch.
And for the other equipment I'll need besides.
Us in the states have gotten away from using a hook. We use a closed winching system called factor 55. Plz look them up, much safer. All the other tips are epic mate. Very well done!
You almost got this video 100%
Almost
Ok first thing working load limit ?
On your cable ,block ,screwpin shackle, how many layers do you have on your winch you loose 11% per layer on your winch. Good luck on your next video.
Hands down best winch video!
Thanks for sharing.
This is super enjoyable to watch and listen to. Thank you for putting this together!
Great start to my education about using my new winch safely
Thank you for a very informative video. Am due to install a winch on my Jimny so this vid was very helpful
Thank you for this very insightful compendium of tips that cover so many of the aspects (including SAFETY) of winching. I sincerely believe that you have prevented many injuries to those who are not intimately familiar with all of the possible details of this potentially dangerous activity! You should always be acutely familiar with all aspects of any dangerous activity before you try accomplishing it, in order to prevent serious injuries or death.
thanks for this tips! I did a heavy shipping container pull (25,000 pound drag) with a 3 to 1 advantage with a 12k winch, lots of connections. In the end my pull was successful. BTW, straps scare me, easy to damage on sharp objects like rocks and metal, they seem like rubber bands when pulled with thousands of pounds, I think there are two different types of straps tow and which. I really like shackles though, just need to stay in there working load limit 3/4 shackles are easy to push them way past there limit.
Excellent instructions. Especially for a total rookie (like me) Thanks a bunch.
Glad to see you use the protective sleeve on such as soft shackles, recovery straps, etc, so many on You Tube don' t seem to know what this sleeve should be used for.... good on you! this and other things are why I use your videos to learn new and safe way"s to recover, etc. Keep the good stuff coming! From the States, MJMcDowell
Just got a winch and this was greatly informative, BTW love your cruiser
Hi Ronnie, good video but I'd mention that double line pulls don't double the captivity of the winch, it just halves the load on the winch. Thinking of it this way is safer. You will double the load on your winch mount of anchored back to it and double the load on the snatch block so make sure your block and strop are rated to double the winch capacity. Directional pulls cause surprisingly high loads on the snatch block/tree end.
Enjoyed this vid. The bow shackle aka clevis as known in my part of the country should be tight enough not to deform. Never leave it loose as you recommend carry a cresent. Under really high tension it will deform. Using a 20 ton winch and much larger bow shackles you quickly learn pay attention to highly experienced operaters.
Excellent information! Just one important correction, and you likely have heard this already. The winch capacity rating is based on the double line pull, and the single line can only achieve half of the winches rating. Thus, the double line pull does not double the winches capacity, it only meets the manufacturers maximum specification.
Great video. I'm brand new to this. Learned so much. Thank you
thanks for that ronny, needed to know that extension strap technique.
My wife's dad told me to weigh the lines down with a glass jar filled with rusty metal shrapnel that has been smeared with wet dingo feces. I don't think he likes me very much.
the dingoes got your baby.
I was taught to put the winch line between your cheeks.
What a great video - never had to use my winch so this is ultra useful.
Amazing tutorial! Thanks so much. I think I've got a much better idea of things now.
Thanks for making this video, It was very well videoed and fully explained. Certainly lots of helpful tips to keeping safe, which is the most impotant thing
+Tony Allen Thanks mate
Thanks a lot for this awesome video. Lots of great information to make off roading more safe for everyone. Right oh!
not only do you get mechanical advantage from the pully, you also have less wraps around the winch drum which effectively increases the gearing because the winch is working on a smaller diameter when there are less turns of cable on the drum.
you mentioned the bow shackles and how you should use them as least as possible. very good points you made, except with using the extension straps. yours had the sleeves on them. the reason for that is attaching one strap to anther directly onto each other will cause the fibres to bind together, and sometimes makes it impossible to seperate the two from each other. the sleeves stop this from happening, which is a great idea to reduce having more heavy metal pieces to potentially fly around. if the straps don't have the sleeves, use a bow shackle to attach two straps, or you'll end up with one by the end.
Thanks for your video. It helps me better understand how to use the equipment to pull trees out.
You are an excellent instructor ! Thanks so much for making these videos!
Great info, great tips! I'm headed over to view the retensioning video.
Thank you from Kentucky, U.S. :) 2008 Toyota Land Cruiser
Usually the weakest link is the cable/rope for two reasons - expense and drum capacity. It is easy to get tree savers, snatch blocks, and shackles whose working load limit far exceeds the winch capacity. If you use the double line, when you get the vehicle moving, it will have half of the load on it it would have if you single line it. Always plan on the stall load of the winch being less than the working load limit of any portion of your rigging to avoid breaking something.
With straps (including tree savers), always basket when you can instead of choker.
Very imformative and presented in aneasy to follow format
I learned a lot from this. Thank you for posting it for me.
Tokie
Kingsport, Tennessee USA
Ben here, hailing from the U.S. My favorite vid is the safe winching tips and tricks vid for 2 main reasons:
1) the deep man voice announcing tip numbers revirbirates through my spine and tickles my offroading soul.
2) There are multiple shots of RD wrapping, swinging, strapping, and choking large girthy tree members... this isn't strange, is it?
cheers!
Very helpful video and clear instructions, great tips!! Thank you for taking the time to make it.
Very good instructional I will watch it a few times to get a good gist of it.
Love this channel, so much common sense and experience, really invaluable, thanks
Run a 4x4 club. I always send this video to people starting out. Because this is the safest way to winch. I’ve seen too many lines break and go through windows, or smash into hoods/ bumpers.
I will have to say this is a great video accept you left one thing out. That is anchoring the recovery vehicle to a tree,colomn,bigger truck or multiple trucks to prevent sliding in the process of recovering a stuck vehicle. Other than that great video. Im from houston texas and a member of houston area offroad recovery group on facebook.
Good point. I've heard of the commercial recovery folks doing that.
Also open the hood; it might save your head if your line breaks and your rigging recoils toward you.
What about soft shackles?
Thanks. I will be using this knowledge to setup snatch block cable systems to tow firewood logs out of the bush.
Love your videos, straight to the point and full of good info.
Thanks for the video. I'm new to winching. Planning to place on an atv for snow plowing, but you never know where the road might lead you
awesome video. thank you for putting it out. lots of really good info for us new guys.
the Best video on a new beginner winching techniques... thank you very much!! Cheers!!
Top video Ronny. Simple and straightforward.
Really useful basic instruction for anyone who just got a winch fitted, great stuff, keep it coming Ronny :)
Cheers mate
I'm new to this and got stuck in my jeep for the first time, I thought if I had a winch I could have got out! But I didn't really consider all this safety stuff till I saw your video, so thank you! From the newb (:
I simply can't stop watching your vids mate! Nearly watched them all! By far one of my favorite yt places to be!
have to disagree on clevis for connecting hook to strap. most hooks arent big enough to safely connect a strap too. You must hook it up right tho. and your picture was backwards. the pen goes thru the strap and the hook is connected to the bow piece. this keeps the hook from pullling against the weak point of the shackle
Oscar, I hope you're not a Rigger. The hook actually lifts on the pin. If you use the slings on the pin they can
1. Roll on the pin and slightly undo it, changing the integrity of the shackle, and
2. Slings bind up on the pin causing friction and extreme heat, changing the integrity of the sling.
3. If your using more than one sling you generally have an apex on the slings which puts pressure on the part of the shackle that's not designed for it, again taking away the integrity of the shackle.
20+ yrs of lifting heavy shit:)
scann13 how do you recommend rigging straps? Like the video recommended?
Hi KFowl35, I don't understand your question, can you elaborate?
I haven't read all the comments, but how about adding, as a tip, the need to have the engine running when winching, op put charge back in the battery. It's probably obvious to 95% of people, but some newbies might not know.
Love your bush skills Ronny. Thanks mate. Stay safe.
also if you dont have spare winch blankets to put over your line you can also use a jacket or a backpack . either will help absorb forces and redirect it away from the line of flight.