PVM Score .. 800 TVL 20" Panasonic BT-M1950 Broadcast Monitor, 36" JVC Thompson Tube RGB MiSTer FPGA
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- Опубліковано 1 бер 2022
- A short video of another PVM haul I made recently. Scored a Sony PVM- 1341, Panasonic ct1390, Panasonic BT-M1950, 2x 9" Ikegamis, and a big 36" JVC AV36850
Also showing the test build PSX core on MiSTer FPGA
Music by zapsplat - Ігри
I picked up a consumer grade Panasonic recently with component and was blown away with how good the image is. Panasonic doesn't get talked about as much as JVC and Sony. Nice to see it getting some spotlight.
I've heard that some of the JVC tvs have Panasonic tubes in them but I can't verify it. Supposably the two JVC tvs I own have Hitachi and Thompson tubes in them but honestly they look virtually identical to my eye.
Loved the intro. Pretty funny.
Thanks! Hitachi made some great tubes as well, Both of my 14" Ikegamis have hitachi tubes and they are very nice.
I also have a 27" panasonic tau in the solder room that has component, I agree... they are very nice and dont get talked about enough.
Well done with clean unique presentation. Thanks for taking the time. B
You went from “missing that boat” to being admiral of the fleet!
LOL.... yeah it kind of just happened overnight. I met one guy and now have tons of these monitors. Its a good example for people to not give up on their search I guess.
Man I loved my JVC BM-H1900SU, Sold it once I got my BVM-20F1U. Those 20” shadowmask professional/broadcast monitors are 🔥
The JVC BM-H1900SU is the monitor you were thinking of that is the rebrand
Awesome, I couldnt remember the model num... So do you regret getting rid of it? How do they compare against the 20" BVMs? Are they comparable? I would guess the sony would have more pronounced scanlines and sharper picture lines where the JVC/Pani is more blended.
Lame Gaming Lame Gaming I don’t regret selling it as it helped pay for my BVM! But that JVC monitor is definitely one I can recommend to anyone. It’s softer because of the shadow mask so more comparable to a 600TVL PVM. I had a PVM-2030 which was 560TVL at the same time and they’re pretty similar, but the JVC was definitely a little sharper.
@@liljaygray cool, im picking up a 20" m2u in a couple weeks that needs a board swap or the current A board troubleshot and repaired but just started a new job so its kind of on the back burner at the moment
Awesome story and awesome pickups 👍🏼
I shot my Panasonic BT-H1390Y with a pro dslr you should check out my Link macro zoom to show off its technology and clarity. easily one of the the sharpest PVM/BVMs I've ever seen.
Pure epicness as usual bro!!
Another great video! I just traded my boxed commodore 1702 for the Panasonic BT-M1950y last night, this is the only video I can find on this Monitor, I’m loving it!
They are mind blowingly fantastic.
I just got a text today, buddy has more pvm's and bvm's but im broke 😖
HIlarious video, man! Subbed! I don't know if I have the skillset to RGB mod a TV, but I'm certain I don't have the patience for it. Those are some great looking TVs you got though.
subbed so fast, too good
Appreciate it!
That's a great find! I'm still looking for a 20" multiformat shadow mask PVM - Panasonic, Ikagami, whatever...I just want one to compare to my 20" Sony A-Series.
Wow... Of all the peoples comments youtube decides to not notify me of they chose Bob himself, smh..... Caught the comment in my YT dashboard by accident and was like....whoa thats Bob lol.
Yeah that was a decent haul, Made another good one recently Im still trying to get the edit done on the footage. A 20m2u,14m2u, a bunch of smaller pvm/bvm's, and a 2030. Had the chance to grab a 17" multiformat JVC too but damnit everything multiformat is expensive. Those high tvl shadowmask tubes are super nice, hope you can pick one up eventually, would love to hear your opinions.
I listen to your podcast at work whenever your episodes drop...thanks for checking me out!
@@LameGaming Thanks for the kind words! I'm subscribed now, so you'll see more of me here. Keep up the good work!
@@RetroRGB Awesome, thanks man and happy thanksgiving!
Amazing PVM, nothing can compare to a 800 TVL PVM.
It really has been the pinnacle of tubes.
I got to check out my pvm sources bvm-d20f1 and it looks unreal with a 480p signal, 240p looks great too but i think this btm1950 compares well with 240p content.
I recently got a 600tvl 20" pvm 20m2u that needs power board work.... Will be fun to compare with the panasonic btm1950
@@LameGaming i have a nice collection also: Sony PVM 9L3, 14L4 and 20L5, all perfect geometry :D. I think the L5 has same tube as your BVM?
@@SamsungS-or1qf If by same as my bvm you mean the panasonic broadcast monitor... They have the same tvl count but yours has the trinitron tube and multi format. I am not lucky enough to have an actual sony bvm yet except a couple 8" ers lol.
My 20m2u is 600tvl but 15kHz 240p/480i only.
@@LameGaming yeah I misread, got caught up in the model number bvm-d20f1, thought you also had a Sony BVM -D20F1U 😁
@@SamsungS-or1qf Yeah, I worded it funky lol
Got Ikegami TM20-17RPA and JVC TM-H1750CG for free! 😯
Nice! How did you manage to get them free?
SOTN is still out of sync on my Trinitron. They fixed the sync the other day, but now the whole picture vibrates. Had to revert to Mar 1 build. I'm expecting it to be perfect today or tomorrow. WHAT IS A MAN
My boot/logo screen vibrates like crazy but everything else is fine. Im using the test build named "led2" or something along those lines from the mister discord.
Its the test build from a few weeks ago right before they started naming them for dual ram.
Ive wanted to try a new build but people are saying you need dual ram for the new builds but it says on discord that you dont... Not sure who to believe, the build Im using works good enough that I was going to wait untill it was officially released
@@LameGaming Looks like it's almost perfect as of Mar 5 build. What a birthday gift. Needs to shift a few pixels to the right on my Trinitron; HP border is cut off. BRB gotta go get the Spike Breaker... : )
It's all fixed now.
@@barndaze420 Nice! Are you running one ram stick?
@@LameGaming Yep, just 32MB. SOTN madness. Crissaegrim in ~90 minutes today on a Luck run. : )
I have a Panasonic BT-M1950 also. How is your horizontal over scan? Mine maxes out 63 in the service menu and can’t can proper overscan.
Ill have to check, i noticed a bit of black bars on mine but havnt messed with adjusting it yet
shadow mask is always nice as it's the same look and feel of arcade tube. feel like aperture grill is a bit over hyped
Yeah, and sadly most people getting into crts never get to experience these nice curved masked tubes... they go straight for a sony and get nothing else. Nothing against sony.... They have a nice look, at this point I plan to daisy chain rgb through various different makes of crts so I can play on whichever type im in the mood for lol.
@@LameGaming yeah, all those youtubers and CRT "elitist" is to blame... they just hype up the retro market and inflate the price of PVM/BVM to much.
Imho, a good shadow mask crt tv and PC VGA monitor could perform better if not better than PVM/BVM as fraction of the price.
One down side of PVM/BVM that people dont normally mention or admit is that it's not suitable to view in bright room because it was designed for dark studio setup. On bright room, I can't barely see anything
@@koeihiroko3622 Honestly it depends.
This panasonic 20" broadcast monitor is super bright, and so is one of my sonys but it had a new tube installed in 2010.
I think the problem is alot of people lust over pvms and dont take into account the tons of hours those things were on for and alot of them have dim tubes due to many years of heavy use.
I agree about not really needing them though. They are nice and great to have if you can get them easily and reasonably priced. I got super lucky on meeting who I did and getting great deals but I just recently did a comparison of my 20" broadcast against a cheap philips crt that was rgb modded and honestly id be happy with the consumer rgb modded set if I couldnt find a pvm/bvm/pro monitor.
www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/sqxgw3/do_you_really_need_a_pvmbvmpro_monitor/?context=3
Also i agree about pc vga crts but Ive found them to more along the lines of being dim and designed for use 1ft away from users face in a dim room. But the magic happens when you feed them 120Hz 240p signal. The phosphor persistence is doubled due to doubling the framerate making the image super bright and vibrant with scanlines.
Alot of people say this creates image blur but its almost negligible and the image is on par with a fantastic example of a pvm.
That 36" jvc tube really blows me away as well, geometry surprised the hell out of me and its amazing to play on now with rgb although you do notice blooming on consumer sets.
Im happy to of had and test all these different flavors of crts, but i agree if all you can find is a consumer set or pc crt, if you can rgb mod and run 120Hz 240p respectively.... Your 85-90% there and the extra 10% may not be worth it if you have to pay crazy ebay prices.
@@TA-qq6xy Yeah, my 40 series sony pvms have pretty dark phosphors, I notice their black levels are a smidge blacker than the monitors I have with lighter phosphor coatings but they have better white balance. CRTs are all a compromise and thats why its nice to have different tubes.
Ive never seen the HD Ikegamis in person, I bet they are awesome! Are they multi format and can run 240p content as well?
@@TA-qq6xy Yeah I havnt calibrated anything other than by eye but noticed all my darker tinted tubes seem to reach a better black level which makes sense because the black level produced on crts is just areas of the screen not being illuminated or hit with the electron beam,
But on the 4 ikegamis and several panasonic pro monitors with much lighter phosphor tint... Their blacks dont get quite as deep but have noticed when ran side by side next to dark tinted tubes that on the darker tubes the whites can be just as bright but are a shade or two "dirtier" of a white where the light tinted screens whites seem super crisp and more pure of a white. I figured it was similar to how black levels work but in reverse.
Just something I noticed and assumed the lighter phosphor color allowed a more pure white level to be produced.
Not saying im right, just something ive noticed on all these monitors and so assumed it was due to phosphor tint
@3:40, what in the hell? xD
Nip slip lol