I was in the 6th Grade in San Francisco during the Zodiac killings and rode a school bus. He threatened to attack a school bus and "Just shoot out the front tires and then pick off the kiddies as they come bouncing out". We were told to lay on the bus floor if anything happened and the driver was to just keep moving and not to stop. Crazy time.
@@DanielThureskog I am going to get attacked but the Zodiac killer was found too. He was found 3 ways. Z340 and Z408 name was there. I got several copies of lady of doom. I thought he had read that. It said right on front page on a reissue edited by Zodiac name. His uncles pulps matched some of the murders. Black Mask. Yearbook. Page 119
Yup. And Gary Ridgway drastically slowed down on murders after 1984. Out of his 49 known victims, only four of those were after March if '84. He was arrested in 2001. Also, Dennis Rader's last known victim was in 1991. He was arrested in 2005.
If I can name a lottery winner or two...it does not then stand that "winning the lottery is common". Most serial killers either get sloppy, push the envelope, want to get caught, or simply get caught.
Reddit is just plain garbage. Plesse let me tell you what i found by accident. I hit the wrong keys one day before I left. They have your internal id number. Someway they are capturing your emails. What they had on me, was everything zodiac captured and sorted in alphabetical order. I did ask Edward Snowden on Twitter about it, and he told me always stay away from Reddit. Maybe because it is all chrome, I dont know how they did it. Dont trust Reddit.
This came up in my UA-cam. I’ve always been fascinated by this. By the way I was an actor in Fincher movie and an extra. Both as I was bumped up. Was on those sets about 20 days. Also my family lives in Pacific Heights and I have checked out many of the locations around there: the cab location, the park location where he escaped after walking right by the cops. The reason I started this message is because I remember reading about some guy from Brooklyn who may have killed that girl in South Lake Tahoe and I remember going into that rabbit hole for a few days, a few years ago. On some Zodiac site I remember it said he wasn’t the guy. Best to you!
P.s. I just spent an hour looking at that Brooklyn guy Kane. He was definitely a bad dude. I think he was a part of the Zodiac “team” or “cult” as it may have been a bunch of people doing things. Kane coming from Brooklyn makes him my number 1. Was married to the #1 hit maker of 1950 (remarkable) she dumped him (makes me think of Bundy, good looking guy rejected by a woman he wanted set him loose.) and he would never have it so good.
He doesn't really address the question of whether the crimes themselves could be unrelated. Instead it sounds like he's responding to whether he thinks a journalist at the Chronicle could've been the killer. My theory: Killing people turned out to be too hard, and didn't bring the killer the satisfaction/enjoyment he thought it would. (Two out of his first half-dozen victims survived, after all, and the lady with her baby got away from him as well) So he decided to just keep writing letters taking credit for random crimes. When the cops and media stopped paying attention, he tapered off.
@@TonyB2279 We’ll let it go since it happened before you were born. Ya know I joke and everything but if the real zodiac killer were alive the odds of him being in this comments section are actually realistically possible. He’d probably say something morbid or compliment the killer’s intelligence. But I do believe he’s deceased.
Thank you Kevin for staying with the case and speaking to these issues as a professional. I always look forward to the next Zodiac article in the Chronicle.
My father, a GS 11 at the Presidio was given Zodiac stuff to decode. He worked on it at home while the TV was showing ball games. He worked communications at Headquarters for his second twenty years, having retired active duty in the late 1970's. Born in 1907.
The zodiac ciphers are super easy to solve. Get a file that allows special characters to go in google translator, drag and drop the word phrase or line. Let translator detect language, press enter. The answer is on right and it will be automatically correct. They aent ciphers, he could not do that. Yep, that is all there is to the translations. you dont decipher anything. It takes about an hour to do them all. I turned in mine and they sent me Don Olsens address for approval. They were approved. His name was in Z340 and Z408. Did he know Chester? He was working there in 70's for 3 L. He worked with radar. He was an advanced weaponry specialist. Only 4 lines of Z340 were done, you will need to do those lines over because they are incorrect, then lines 5-20 has never been seen by the public. It is Zodiacs personal information. Remember Red Drawer, thats where the killing stuff was, and you will know then I solved them. Law enforcement has them. If you dont want to solve, send to an arabic translation company. Z was fluent in 3 languages.
This case is actually one of the easiest cases to solve once you understand the simple key to solving it. The Zodiac killer walked away from his last murder, killing a cab driver in the Presidio Heights neighborhood. He was last seen by a police officer named Don Fouke. Zodiac faked him out and misdirected Fouke to go search in no-man's-land. Ok, this gave Zodiac about a 2 minute window to vanish into thin air. Where did he go? Remember that he was walking away from the crime scene. SFPD are swarming towards the scene from all directions. For nearly 40 year's officer Fouke lied and said he last saw Zodiac go down to the Presidio Park. In 2007 he admitted that he actually last saw Zodiac going up the steps of 3---- Jackson Street. The 7 dogs that searched the Presidio Park never picked up a scent. Well no wonder, Fouke finally admitted that he never saw Zodiac going to the Presidio Park. Ok now at this point you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out how to solve this crime. Simply start at the address Fouke mentioned 3---- Jackson Street and simply go house to house and "canvas the Presidio Heights neighborhood (research everyone who lived in the area) well guess what, NOBODY ever did. I was the first person to ever "canvas " house to house to house in a systematic & methodical way. Well I knew Zodiac had to get behind closed doors -and fast. So he couldn't have gone too far, remember he's walking. Okay well across the street from the last known sighting of the Zodiac, is a man named John Parr Cox. I have this guy - John Parr Cox on tape discussing how - just like the Zodiac killer - he too would walk up to kids in parked cars with his gun, and they would think he was a police officer. Well the Zodiac killer walked up to kids in parked cars with his gun and they thought he was a police officer - the exact same M.O. Also John Parr Cox's handwriting is identical to the Zodiac killers. He even was at the intersection of Mason and Geary the very night Zodiac was picked up there. I have tons more information and evidence. You can go to my UA-cam channel Real Zodiac Killer Revealed for more information , just click my profile pic 👍
That was honestly him Adam. The Zodiac killer. I heard they questioned him anyway, and let him go. When Cheri was first killed someone did turn him in. He was brought in for questioning and they gave him a handwriting test. He aced it, but then again he writes two ways. When i first found him, his name was in the FBI archives as a potential suspect. The FBI removed that page when they finally listened and knew he wasnt cleared. They did listen later that day. . he got away from them not once, but TWO TIMES. i KID YOU NOT. His police reports probably still exist, but not the page in the FBI archives. I did a little test. I posted his picture in a zodiac site yesterday. NOT ONE PERSON KNEW WHO HE WAS. Toschi thought he was "too clean cut". LOL I dont know what is wrong with this world. The case and so called ciphers couldnt be any easier than what they were. The "ciphers" were only language translations. They were all done within an hour. Really, I kind of feel sorry for the cops but when I think of what he did I get angry that they didnt get him the first time. I have pictures of him. There was a third time. I have subscribed to your channel. You have common sense to know when the police do not. The so called ciphers are solved this way" --- you are going to laugh. No one even tries but this is honestly how they are solved. Put it in google translator and press enter !!! ha, ha,ha, This works. Make sure you get all special characters though. Line 6-20 contains the most clues ever! They told you more of the same ? Nope, not true, and it isnt meant to be solved in sections either. Line 5 will say "I am leaving you people with ......" It takes just 3 minutes for Z13 and Z32 but no one wants to waste their 3 minutes. It actually works, I was surprised also. But its no surprise he is a liar. We found him 4 ways Adam, got the same name each time and I wasnt the other one working on it.
@@filukkasunivers2389 excellent question. For starters this is unlikely because Zodiac was picked up at the Mason and Geary intersection, and cabbed all the way to the Presidio Heights neighborhood across town on a Saturday night. This is exactly how the Son of Sam was caught, parking his car for too long and getting a parking ticket. This was a millionaire's neighborhood. It seems unlikely that a weird car would be parked in the neighborhood and not be noticed. Fouke said he circled back in about 30 seconds after Zodiac slipped by him. This hypothetical car would have had to have been VERY close by and Zodiac would have had to have a lot of luck to get out of the area with dozens and dozens of SFPD black and white squad cars swarming towards the scene. Also the question of how did Zodiac know the fine details of the Presidio Park search. He knew details only an eyewitness would know. John Parr Cox was looking down from his 3rd story bedroom, this is how he knew about the details of the search 👍
Here is as much as I will say without being prejudice to my own work. Oranchak’s mathematical guy said he found a pattern that picked lines or letters at a skip of 1/2 2/3 3/4 etc. Which means he extracted an embedded code at best. The Zodiac did have multiple levels of coding, so that is possible. If in fact that extracted code was truly a substitution transposed cipher and by some means Oranchak found the ‘key’ - He did not, repeat did not solve the z340 cipher. The z340 cipher is a plain text cipher in English, with truncated words, abbreviations, anagrams, acronyms and Morse code, that code in all directions with each line depending on the intersecting lines to complete the phrases and the complete message. It is not a substitution with a ‘key’ and the few characters that are transposed as to position are ‘reversed’ to indicate a position replacement or other characters direct the reader to the application direction , so as to not transpose characters. His solution adds absolutely nothing on the planet earth to the case. So in the end it’s irrelevant.. Lastly, a code or cryptology is what the code maker wants it to be - what ‘error’ did you find and where did you get a direction to randomly remove text to complete the result that just seems to appeal to you versus having that ‘rightness’ you feel when decoding is done accurately? To me it’s an- invalid result, and forced.. Steven
For those responding to my comments or in general : Kevin is a friend of mine.. He does listen and he was the first person to recognize that we had something very different.. His story that he ran about David Oranchak cracking the z340 was due to reliance on ‘Cameron Polin’ the PR person for the San Francisco division of the FBI, who for some reason thought it would be good to ‘plant’ a false story about the z340 being cracked and David Oranchak’s 15 year deep desire to be famous and significant in the zodiac case allowed him to be the perfect patsy .. Kevin - is restricted by his editors and management and they have the ‘truth’ from us about the case, but due to real people with real motives and real opportunities and who have self-identified in the actual cracked ciphers and codes, he is not allowed permission to publish that information unless the police ‘officially’ name them as suspects .. Steven
You realize that 4 lines was only solved right ?? Z340 has 20. I did the remaining 16 lines and told David what they were. EVERY so called cipher is an offshoot of the arabic language in a rare format. Put the word or whole line including special char into google translator and see what you get. YOU DO NOT DECIPHER/ What line 4 ends with is ABROAD not DEATH. This is followed up by "I am leaving you people with .......thats line 5. They have been telling you they solved Z340, no, 16 lines were not done, and the 4 done has errors and missing words. Zodiac said if you solve Z408 and Z340 you will have me. His name was in there, both Z340 and Z408. If you are a friend of Kevins please tell him to go the Zodiac task force in SF (Scott)and ask for any new development in the Zodiac case. There is a big surprise now. If Kevin will listen. He also may ask the Zodiac task force sergeant in Brevard County about new developments, Connie Ballard case. Maybe Kevin already knows. Katie Dowd of SF Gate knows and also cannot say anything till the FBI notifies them.
Steven -The ciphers are solved. Name was found lying on top of Z340 and in each section of Z408. Like he said, if you solve it you will have me. Yes, it was solved, his name was found twice. If you are Kevins friend please tell him to ask Zodiac task force sergeant (Scott) in SF of new developments Kevin is going to be very surprised, but maybe he already knows. Those ciphers were not ciphers, I have now explained this to David. 4 lines solved with errors and missing word "abroad" I did lines 5-20 and that had more than enough clues to Zodiac identity. He was turned in then and dna was tested. Kevin may know already because he said the same thing as said to me. Katie Dowd (SFGate) was in the SFFBI office when this all went down, she might tell him also. To prove, line 5 said "I am leaving you people with " Florida Zodiac task force sergeant also knows. So, I have been laughed at if I say Florida. Too bad, it was. (Ballard case) The "ciphers" are a rare format of arabic. This was the issue, they cleared him in error as one of the very first suspects. They had to solve in two states not one. The families should know first ! They have hid stuff on this case for three years !!! Believe it or Not Thank you. (there were no more vics stated in ciphers)
The name found in two so called ciphers matched up to the "edited by" on the front of Lady of Doom. Its one reissue, and that was the thing that was different between them all. Thats why he was putting the words he said in an X
I really find the people that keep trying to link all the murders of serial killers to just one person or group annoying. No, the Manson family isn't responsible for every unsolved thrill-seeking murder in California in the late 60's and 70's. Whoever the Zodiac is/was, you probably haven't heard of him before unless it's one of the main suspects the FBI were following back during the time these crimes occurred. He was definitely a loner in his 30's or 40's, and he probably wasn't in the best of shape. I assume he was of above average intelligence but never really did anything meaningful with his life. Probably drank a lot and was extremely resentful of young couples since there is a good chance he wasn't in any long-term relationship or had much romantic success himself. The anger was focused primarily on the women; I don't think it's just that they made easier targets, I think he was resentful he couldn't find a date of his own so these murders were a way of 'taking back power' from those who have denied him in the past and who he probably blamed for lowering his sense of self-worth. He was also probably for the most part estranged from his family apart from some holiday get-together's perhaps, and probably didn't have many friends at work. Arthur Leigh Allen, in terms of physical and character description still seems like the closest guy to match the profile of the Zodiac. He was a semi-criminal, semi-recluse social deviant that lived in his mothers basement until he moved out into a trailer park. He died of a heart attack in 1991 and I feel even if he wasn't the Zodiac, then whomever was probably shared a similar fate dying in their 50's or 60's after a life of loneliness and excessive drinking, eating and smoking.
"Probably drank a lot" based on what? "was extremely resentful of young couples since there is a good chance he wasn't in any long-term relationship or had much romantic success himself" or maybe he knew young couples would find a secluded place so they were just easier targets. "The anger was focused primarily on the women" Not necessarily, the two men who survived said they played dead while the women continued to resist until fatally injured. It's just a matter of circumstance. He also targeted a man with no female connection at all but like the couples he rigged the confrontation to give him an advantage. This is more an indicator of a fear of capture, notably after he was almost captured was his last confirmed murder. After that he would only send taunting letters which was obviously much safer and he seemed to still get a kick out of it. "He was also probably for the most part estranged from his family apart from some holiday get-together's perhaps" What is your basis for that other than noting that is how most adults are? Don't most adults only see relatives at get-togethers? "probably didn't have many friends at work" Why? Would having friends have cured his homicidal urges or would it just be impossible for him to be friends with humans and then kill other humans. Where are you getting this profile from? This seems less like a profile and more of a polemic to disparage murderers. When actual serial killers are caught they are disappointingly normal, they're moderately successful in work and family life. They really are mr average except these horrific crimes.
I would say that the Zodiac Killer whoever he was has already passed away by now and has probably been gone from this world for quite some time. But is he is still alive he would be 80+ years by now and there is always the slim possibility of a deathbed confession. I'd be amazed if that were to ever happen, for as he would say "why spoil the game"?
He is dead now, but wasnt at the time he was apprehended, he was alive then of course. THERE IS A DEATHBED CONFESSION NOT HEARD BY PUBLIC YET kEVIN PROBABLY KNOWS THIS. hE KNOWS THINGS ARE HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW, he alluded to it, and he is right too. He was 77 at the time.
In my opinion the killer is/was a person who knows the area very well. In detail. Because some of the killings happened at spots where outsiders couldn't know about. In that time, there wasn't something like a (digital) navigation system. And how were they (otherwise) be able to find those specific places if that was the case? Killers don't search for unknown places to commit murders. They don't kill by coincidence. They have a plan, and a specific (familiar) place where they search for victims and want to kill a certain type of person (or persons). I have a feeling that if you compare the DNA of the Zodiac killer with the DNA of people who lived in that area in the 60s and 70s, you'll be able to find this guy. There almost certainly will be a match with one or more family members.
JUst FYi - this is how Zodiac can be found in a few minutes. Just informational only - It was the cross thing. By knife, by gun, by fire, etce That comes from the Zodiac's uncle editing one reissue of Lady of Doom, that is where he got it. Led to him directly same name, same murder plots in his uncles magazines. Uncle could have made the costume, his line of clothing was called Zodiac. He was pattern maker, costume designer. Former NJ cop. No one knows uncles story, very very interesting man. Hes on some peoples list as most admired. He was also the Mikado influence. His name, Zodiac name handed down thus that issue is under Zodiac name, its the same as uncle, its his actual name first and last. He also was a famous ballet dancer, going on to establish one of the most influential in america, interesting information never before heard. . It is now possible to determine Zodiac name of course. Two min or less is the time it takes now for the identity. NOW his name is easily found in Z340 and Z408. It went to FBI and SFPD immediately. Not very smart huh and DEFINITELY he was NOT crackproof. He left it super easy to find him.
perhaps earliest ciphers/clues will be the ones that carry the biggest clues and provide the name of offender. later ciphers are more sophisticated and probably used to cover up earlier mistake. Williamson is a name that fits. jeffery maybe.
The killing stuff was always kept in a Red Drawer and that is towards the bottom of Z340 in the 16 lines never solved on TV. He also bitched about the atmosphere, he mentioned Black Panthera, he said "My worst enemy is G" he said execution or life in prison, there is much more. He is bitching about many different things. Ok, the identity is found like this: You go to right fist, his name is towards the top, first letter of last name only (full name is in Z408) , now you go out to the middle, you pick randomly, you wind like a snake, you then go clear to the bottom picking letters, it will look like a sine wave. Its plain English First letter will be in the four lines David supposedly solved. He didnt solve Z340.
Because it is his only way to prove he was Zodiac. I wonder if one day a relative will find these items in a box hidden in an attic or basement or in a dresser drawer one day when Zodiac dies.
What about Joe Bevilacqua? Sorry i don't know if he's a relevant name in the community but as an Italian I'm into our personal serial killer mystery, Florence's Moster. Recently there are some people who advance a theory about Zodiac being the Monster himself, also seems that the guy confessed to a journalist (Francesco Amicone) and was ready to turn himself in before he changed his mind. Anyway, Bevilacqua was allegedly working in San Francisco as an undercover investigator for the Army at the time of the murders, and then moved in Italy in the same place and time of the Monster occuring murders. He even participated in the Monsters trial as a witness. (His testimony is not coerent btw, like most of that trial anyway) There are plenty of researchs going after this connection and I know it sounds kinda crazy, but everything makes more sense the more you dig into it. For istance, that's the first italian case of serial killing and the modus operandi is almost the same as Zodiac's, the victims and the context resemble the same as Zodiac ones. Once the monster stopped, he send a letter to the police with a mammal from the last victim, and the address was composed with journal letters that cointains various key words in the back, like Acqua(water), or Paradise. They figure that he also took the letter Z from a Zodiac add in the magazine he used for all of the letters (Valeria Vecchione spent 2 years looking for this magazine and all the letters). There are plenty of stuff like this, Zodiac and the Monster both killed once during 12/20, that is Bevilacqua birthday. The reference with water is in his surname, and they keep coming in the killing areas even in Italy. The sole fact that he used two types of glue in the letter to let the police access at the magazine data in the letter is astonishing, also there's a typo that can't be present in a letter of that level of precision (he wrote Repubblica with one b, like in Republic). There are plenty of other coincidences and this guy almost decide to confess, but who knows. Currently someone manage to send an DNA sample of Bevilacqua to the FBI so we still see what will come up, and last, the guy died two years ago, so if he turns out to be Zodiac killer, he actually won on two separate sides.
Here is my question: Don’t newspapers offer retractions when the information they print is subsequently proven inaccurate? Secondly, the Unibomber case went unsolved for over 20 yrs with Law Enforcement’s best trying to stop and active killer, but the case was not solved by law enforcement was it? The answer, it was solved by his brother’s wife who recognized the handwriting and the themes.. So, in conclusion- yes many thoughts and theories on Reddit are false.. 98% are pure speculation based on nothing .. But the Los Angeles investigation is based on the words, images, and code of the letters, envelopes .. which has gone directly to real people .. Finally, the z340 has not been solved by David Oranchak .. The FBI did not solve the unibomber case - so how can you say they are the final word? A fellow who actually knows the truth.. Charlie & Ellen & Albert Lee Terry, Jr.
YOU ARE RIGHT REDONDO, DAVID DIDNT SOLVE. THE 4 LINES HE DID HAVE A MISSING WORD "ABROAD" WHICH IS WHERE HE WENT AND THAT WORD ALSO MISSED. Lines 5-20 contain all clues about himself, who he hates, and is a little rant about green energy. All you do to solve is put in google translator with the special char. It always was that easy and it was even easier to find him and his accomplice. I gave his name and cipher solves to all of LE there and the FBI and DOJ. I got calls or letters back. They were nice enough to tell me the end of the story. But they got a confession. Its on tape. A woman who knows truth too. Dont bother giving that to Kevin, he believes nothing not even the truth. The name is english in Z340 and Z408.
Kevin is a friend of mine.. He does listen and he was the first person to recognize that we had something very different.. His story that he ran about David Oranchak cracking the z340 was due to reliance on ‘Cameron Polin’ the PR person for the San Francisco division of the FBI, who for some reason thought it would be good to ‘plant’ a false story about the z340 being cracked and David Oranchak’s 15 year deep desire to be famous and significant in the zodiac case allowed him to be the perfect patsy .. Kevin - is restricted by his editors and management and they have the ‘truth’ from us about the case, but due to real people with real motives and real opportunities and who have self-identified in the actual cracked ciphers and codes, he is not allowed permission to publish that information unless the police ‘officially’ name them as suspects .. Steven
@@Redondo-ex6oh No David did not solve Z340, he just left you with 16 remaining lines and told you "more of the same" Well, it wasnt, it chock full of clues, and the identity of Zodiac is right inside. Hardens also missed his name. I was told that too, i cant tell till officially named. I wish 2 people on here" would just stop asking who he is and calling me names, I cant tell, I was told not to. His name is clear, right in Z340 and Z408 and on one reissue of Lady of Doom We should talk. So Kevin also found out who Zodiac was ?? If not, I will tell him, but I dont know how to contact, and I will show him his identity in the so called ciphers. Yep they are hiding, They have had information for almost 4 years !!! Scott told me it could take years to get through all they had to do. Yep, they should let victims families know at the minimum. Everything you said is correct. Media member Katie Dowd of SF Gate also knows his identity.
Actually we got a confession. Zodiac=Moster of Florence may be: Amicone's suspect was Joseph aka Giuseppe Bevilacqua (Totowa, United States, 20 December 1935 - Sesto Fiorentino, Italy, 23 December 2022) a former ABMC superintendent at the Florence American Cemetery in Italy, who testified to the Pacciani Trial.. What do you think?
@kathykline7202 there is not Zodiac DNA, unfortunately but American investigation got Bevilacqua's one. There is no chance to find who is Zodiac, too late. Cheers
The Zodiac killer was a Merchant Marine Captain . He lived in Ben Lomond, Ca. He was in his mid 50”s when he met Darlene Ferrin . At that time her last name was still Suennen. He thought she was older because she was only 16 years old when they met . She gets pregnant right off the bat! He then finds out her age & just could not let the cat out of the bag! No way . And Darlene’s Parents if they would have found out , most definately would have pressed Statutory rape on him ! When Darlene started to show with the baby is when Zodiac got her out of the state & brought her up to Washington state . She stayed in a mobile home located on the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Beautiful place . John & Clarence Anglin were staying there until Darlene came. Then they had to go into Canada . Darlene could not go to a hospital to have the baby .Under 18. I mean sure she could have but to her , Why risk it. She flew 2 nurses up to Washington , one a nursing student still . The other a graduated nurse. They delivered Darlene’s baby . Then flew back home. After a few weeks after the baby girl was born , Darlene gets homesick & wants to go back to California. Zodiac sets her up in an apartment . Everything paid. Zodiac finds out about the 2 nurses & also Paul Stine. He took the 2 nurses to the airport. (Per Darlene. ). Zodiac flies in to Ca. from Japan. He’s on a 2.5 year contract working over there . He meets his baby for the first time. He finds out the names of the nurses. Tells Darlene he needs to run errands and leaves. She follows without him knowing , out to Riverside college. Darlene watching from afar. Zodiac goes over to a Volkswagen bug & messes with the distributor cap & walks away . Cheri JO Bates comes out of the library goes to her car & it won’t start. Zodiac walks by & asks her if she needs help? She agrees & they walk to zodiacs car & zodiac kills her while Darlene watches everything . This freaks Darlene plum out!! She drives back home knowing she’s got to play it cool with him when he gets back . He pays for everything! She manages to pull it off when he returns. He leaves the next day. Darlene knew she was finished with him ! Not only with him but their Daughter as well . Darlene the next day makes arrangements to give her daughter to her church & they were to arrange some type of adoption for the baby . And gives her daughter away . Darlene meets Dean Ferrin . She gets pregnant again . Marries him. zodiac finds out and flies back from Japan to Ca. When Darlene gave away their Daughter she had told the Wife of zodiacs younger brother that she was doing it. Her baby was also very sick at the time too . The church ended up taking the baby to a hospital . Zodiacs sister found the baby in the hospital . The baby ended up on zodiacs side of the family but hidden. I’ll be back with the rest of this story . Look for Part 2 from me soon. Thanks 😊✨
Excellent video, sir! I agree with getting the info out there. Kaczynski is a perfect example (and being Polish-American as well, we don’t claim him) but I’ve heard people seriously criticize True Crime podcasts, CrimeCon, etc but I see them as modern day America’s Most Wanted, Unsolved Mysteries, among others. If it wasn’t for Most Wanted, John List would have never come to justice. 25 years later, and 2,000 miles from where it took place. When it comes to newspapers printing thing at the request of the killer, they can only give themselves away. BTK was foiled by new technology he didn’t thoroughly understand. If you guys print his stuff, he’ll probably continue making contact, and at some point he’ll slip up. Not just Zodiac, but any criminal. I think the good you make possible far outweighs any bad.
I found his name, it was in Z340 and Z408, it has been gived to the FBI and editor of SF chronicle with proof. HE WAS THE FIRST TEEN SERIAL KILLER. DNA was a match. Kevin doesnt listen, so I had to send to someone else there. The ciphers were never ciphers, Zodiac was multi lingual. Those are all different versions of arabic in an english like form you dont see much. Now pop the whole thing in google translator, press enter. It was just that easy. The most clues you are going to find is in Z340 lines 5-20, do those 4 lines over to correct those. He told you he was going abread and that was missed. It is right. All of it including identity. LE will not tell you at this time. There may be two vics more, and the number 5 is not correct, it is higher than that. It only took 50 years and they had him twice and let him go. There is someone else as well, and before your critisim solve one of them. You will know I am telling the truth, I DARE YOU TO DEBUNK KEVIN FAGAN, BECAUSE YOU CANT.
Lol! This guy? WTH? Three times he said “I don’t know” to questions he posted. He’s a fake news reporter who’s done nothing with this. He literally offered less than nothing new or interesting. He’s a dummy and a bore.
@@aguy559 Not really. They all seem to have some circumstantial evidence and some of it's good but no hard evidence. It's just conjecture. The Zodiac is a man with a deep fantasy life. I think he stopped because he came so close to being caught. I think he met a woman and she stayed with him. The Zodiac case drives me nuts.
@ I imagine that he probably DID have a deep fantasy life. Drives me crazy too, although I’ll confess to not being the most knowledgeable person there is in the topic. I wonder how it could be solved.
I agree, especially how those kids were left in the car while he went down to beach to kill that couple and they said he came back around 1/2 hour later. The guy was definitely a freak
@@theycantallbezodiac weren't their bodies found shortly after he and the kids took off, and she said she went to wipe off the blood and he pushed her away with force. Do you at least admit that he MAY have done it?
Part 2: At this point Zodiac is out to find one thing, DARLENE! He flies back from Japan to find Darlene. He only has a 2 day stay. Then has to get back to Japan . Paul Stine fills him in on Darlene & her new baby /married. He is on a mission to find her . Zodiac is parked at a store or some where & sees a girl that looks like Darlene. It’s Betty Lou Jensen & she is w/David Farraday. Zodiac thinking this is Darlene follows them Out to Lake Herman rd . They park . He pulls in behind them . Gets out shoots them both dead. He walks over to the girl sees it’s not Darlene, leaves. “Mistaken identity kill”. He then flies back to Japan. Knowing he shot the wrong person & that Darlene did what she did with their baby. He is just stewing on everything. He was totally over taken over by wanting her dead . He has nothing but time on his hands to think about it . He comes back in to the Port of Chicago with his ship , the Japan job finally finished. He’s at Mare island and so is Darlene. He see’s her and her little sister giving away buttons . Kris, her little sister is running for “Miss Firecracker “. Whoever gives out the most buttons wins. Darlene gets invited to go on a boat ride. She goes.,She sees Zodiac on his small boat & they meet eyes . This scares the chit out of Darlene. She has the boat driver bring her back to shore. Darlene grabs her little sister Kris & they bolt out of there! Darlene drives to her parents house . They both go inside . Darlene knew that Zodiac is pissed off for giving their baby away. Darlene is frightened of him . She saw what he did to Cheri Jo bates ! She knows what he’s capable of. This is when Darlene tells her mom, Don’t be surprised if you read about me in tomorrows newspaper . Darlene leaves. She drives to her work, Terrys house of pancakes. Zodiac right on her tail . She pulls in to Terrys parking lot & parks.,Zodiac pulls in & gets out of his car. Darlene and him are nose to nose arguing. Customers see this as reported in this case. Darlene goes inside . Then comes back out. She leaves drives to her house. She’s having a small party for the 4th of July. Zodiac follows. Darlene goes in to her house. Zodiac goes in 5 minutes later. He sits on the couch waiting for Darlene. Darlene is in her bedroom . She changes her clothes & she tells her little brother, Leo, to stay away from the man that Just walked in because he is dangerous! And to hold down the house cuz she was leaving to pick up fireworks. She slips out the back door of her bedroom & leaves. Zodiac catches on and leaves too . Darlene goes to pick up Mike Mageau & Zodiac is trying to find her . He parks at Mr. Eds hamburger stand. Few minutes later Darlene & Mike pull in. She sees him & takes off like a bat out of hell! Zodiac follows. She pulls in to Blue Rock Springs & we all know what happened there. I will be back for Part 3 . Stay tuned 🥰✨
@ Why? Give a reason . I know the truth. It’s far from ridiculous . It’s the Only story that has EVER made sense! Ever! And I have proof to back it up ! Darlene had 2 daughters not just one. Have a nice day . Back up what you say .
Is the woman who was taken for a ride by supposed zodiac still alive? If so show her pics of the suspects to see if she recognizes anyone, was this ever done? If not why not?
There’s a reason this case has never been solved. The zodiac was in law enforcement. If they actually solved this case it would hurt them more than help them. Think of all the law suits that would come there way from the victims families
Interesting video, love it. Thank you for sharing....but serial killers do stop cold turkey, in my opinion. BTK did it, and so did the Golden State killer. They might not have stopped taunting, but they didn't have any further killings.
Yup. Also, while Ridgway murdered someone about three years before he was arrested, 45 of his 49 known murders were committed from 1982-1984. The idea that serial killers can't slow down, change MOs, and flat-out stop are drawn from the fact that a large majority of serial killers tend to be caught not much longer after murdering their last victim. Of course, that's a ridiculous assumption since there's no way to know if those caught would have eventually stopped. And, as you pointed out, there are examples of those who did.
For those of us who were alive when these murders happened the way its all treated by young people who treat this as entertainment need to take a step back and consider that there are many families for who it was the ryin of their lives because they are still alive. F***ing ghouls treating this as entertainment are nasty thoughtless idiots.
I only worked on this case to find him because I heard what happened to Mr and Mrs Bates, and thought there were more family members like this. I also wanted to find additional vics so they would be laid to rest. I am not a ghoul and I found Zodiac and solved the ciphers, they arent ciphers, he was just lying. Those are rare languages to be translated. Additional names arent in there. There was 16 lines left in Z340 that contained all the clues you need, and his name was in Z340 and Z408. His identity to be annouced. Not by me.
Debunk mine … Seriously ! You won’t be able to . I am the hidden Daughter of Darlene Ferrin . She got involved with a Merchant Marine Captain . I am her first Daughter before Deana. I am the spitting image of Darlene. I know the story . One more thing … I didn’t know this until 5 years ago . Spun my world a complete 360’/180…whatever …! I am very very serious !
My personal theory is that of the top 3 FBI suspects, all of them committed at least one of the murders. Claiming credit for kills he didnt do fits the psychologist profile as the FBI BSU profile says that the main factor was "proving his intellectual superiority to compinsate for an inferiority complex" I think Laurence Kane, Aurthur Lee and Jack Tarrance are all likley to hage commited one of the murders at least. For me the question is how the kills are divided between these suspecys
I have a theory about D. B. Cooper. The reason it’s been so hard to find evidence on him is 1. He never existed and 2. No one ever jumped out of the plane .. The only thing better than having a bomb and high-jacking a plane for ransom and then jumping out of it - is to make people believe that is what happened..
@@thecat8905 help me make sense of it. I was 10 years old and and there has been a zillion theories, this is the first one to make my brain stop leaking fluid.
i believe there were two zodiak killers, who were friends working together. I believe the two men were Arthur Lee Allen and Donald Lee Cheney. Don Cheney looks like the composite from the taxi cab killing.
Hi Kevin. I reached out to you several years ago on a candidate. I have continued to research him and I can tell you with absolute certainty that he checks every box on the Zodiac crimes. There is no angle from which he does not answer. IF there is ever the possibility of a sleuth coming along and presenting a legitimate case for who the Zodiac Killer is, this has to be the one. I should have been able to rule him out. There is a wealth of material available on this individual. It should have been easy to rule him out. Yet nothing has been found that enables me to do so. When I spoke with you, you rejected this individual as a potential suspect out of hand though you said you could be wrong. This is not a criticism because I fully appreciate your position here and it was a logical response on your part. So he remains, not only a viable and compelling candidate, but an absolute gold standard prototype for who the Zodiac Killer was.
@@theycantallbezodiac I understand the why of your challenge but there is no point to engaging in a tit for tat here on this topic. It is juvenile and unproductive and will not affect or effect anything of value. This perspective comes from several years of experience in this matter. Absolutely no offense intended. I do really like your user name BTW.
@@K862-l2l every week people come forward claiming theyve solved the case or have the perfect suspect but can't back it up. I challenge you to provide details that your suspect is Zodiac. It's not tit for tat, I'm asking you to show the evidence to back up what is just another silly claim. I also have been interested in the Zodiac for several years.
I don’t believe you ever talked to Kevin .. period ! And if your information is based on the Presidio Heights suspect sketch - you may be right about who killed Paul Stine, but you have no clue who the Zodiac is .. there were two men in and out of that cab on that street that night .. One was the Zodiac - who arrived from downtown and the other was the killer of Paul Stine who hailed the cab a block later and shot the man in the back of the head .. and fled
Based upon the 2007 Zodiac movie: I think the Zodiac was possibly two people. One who wrote the letters (left handed as a right handed person ambidextrously), and another who was a murderer. I think that is why the suspect's hand writing never match the Zodiac's hand writing. And the Zodiac's murders were possibly two people wanting to try to outsmart the judicial system, and wanting to hurt other people. I hope this can help in some way. I think the people who focus on the Zodiac (except Police Officials) relish in the darkness with life stupidly. I hope for justice for those who where affected. And I hope we go on too with life.
@@RobertBurke-tq9zu If that be true , then I stand corrected. But I think because he broke the pattern with Paul Stine , I think it was a different guy parading as the Zodiac, plus the zodiac took credit for other people’s crimes because of the attention.
@@EdEdwardsCiphers OMG 😳, That's exactly what the Zodiac Killer would write! Keep him engaged and maybe you can get a confession. Good work @EdEdwardCiphers!!
1.) I am actually quite optimistic and I think that Zodiac case will be solved in next 10 - 15 years..... and AI will probably help too. 2.) I have no idea who Zodiac killer was, but I think that police and armed forces should search in their archives from 50s or early 60s. Zodiac clearly had something to do with armed forces (regarding recent rumours - I do NOT think it was Hoffman) and it was someone who failed to join armed forces or was fired / left with shame..... I actually think that we never really found real motive for murders yet - but I suppose it was some sort of revenge - I´ll make fools from you. 3.) My suggestion.... Letters, ciphers.... get rid off it and investigate it like if they never existed. Dont search for a clue which never existed. They are false lead, probably "made up" to create false direction of investigation. They say actually nothing relevant about killer.... "collecting slaves for afterlife"? Give me a break..... No. I would suggest one more idea. I always thought that Zodiac killer was "fictional" character created by serial killer who murdered before and after Zodiac murders, BUT he created this false almost "comics identity" because for some reason, he needed to "hide" his true identity behind this crazy character. I mean.... there was personal connection with one of those victims and he used this "alter-ego" to cover it.... By the way, by serial killer who murdered before and after Zodiac, I dont mean like 20 victims combined with Zodiac, I mean like 8- 10 including Zodiac´s ones.
He did he did, what he was copying was his uncles pulp murders, he wrote mostly for Black ace, and Black Mask and he worked for Stan Lee also, he was an editor for one reissue of Lady of Doom. Great insight. Yes it was revenge. It may be this year it is solved, its real real close. Those ciphers are actually obsecure languages. Translator will tell you the answers or an arabic translation co. You will know his name by Z340 and Z408. Its right there.
I always got the same idea that that collecting slaves was just bs. I'm not sure why he talked about it but I have NEVER believed he actually believes that. About that personal connection part with one of the victims I don't think so but it's totally possible. That would also explain why he seemingly stopped but there are countless other possible reason for that I think it's importart to remember that intially police investigated the crimes just like any homicides by trying to figure out who would want to kill those teens. That's how you find suspicious people etc who had nothing to do with the killing. The idea that Zodiac knew one of the victims does deserve some more investigating but at this point I don't believe so. Military connection of some type seems very possible. Letters should be looked gor physical evidence like DNA and they have at least palm print from one of them. I also believe Zodiac was clever enough to create false leads in his letters so everything he says should be taken with grain of salt however I do think he might have slipped something about himself for example when he mentioned having basement in one of those letters. Even that could be intentional false clue but one thing Z340 solution proved Zodiac does sometimes give hints. He used almost identical wording in his later letters the frase "I hope you are having" and the fact he used diaconal writing on envelopes including the one Z340 was sent in. So I wonder if he give some other real hints aswell.
@@kathykline7202 Maybe I am wrong, but.... I assume ZK never revealed his identity in his letters or ciphers.... But... who knows, BTK actually revealed his identity in one of ciphers sent to press (he actually gave up his address..... but it was discovered AFTER he was caught!).
Yes it was. "if you solve it you will have me" his name was in Z340 and Z408, and you all have NEVER seen Z340 solved in full, 16 lines were remaining to be done. They have the method now, they were able to solve in full not long ago.
Two different murderers The real zodiac I think killed those couples the cabby I think was some Random person who’s a killer as well but to confuse the cops so they think it just one killer why you ask because all the letters sent why only with the cab driver did he send a piece of ripped clothes from the victim to prove he did it and not send anything with the letters he sent claiming he killed the couples apart from writing how he killed them where he killed them which I’m sure the papers covering the killings put in there papers just like now a days you read the details which explain to you everything
“You treat the murders like info-tainment” says the guy recording a video about the murders/killings for UA-cam… bit o’ the ol’ pot an’ kettle there bud…
This was posted 4 days ago and he's supposed to be the "zodiac guy" but he doesn't know that ALL of the messages have been solved now and have been for probably a few years?😂 Typical fake news, arrogant about how little they know.
@@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL They are solved. Z13 says glasses male me, now manipulate the langugae and break it again. it now says put P over A and C over N? I think thats it. Make the changes Zodiac told you, and do it again. this time you will get XXXXXXXZ13, the X's you get to solve. Z32 says Solar, Enkman, Emperor of Japan. Z13 is HIndii and Z32 is Telugu. These were broken and have been approved. YOU TRANSLATE THEM ALL, YOU DO NOT DECIPHER A THING. z COULDNT CIPHER. You do the same with all the others, and they should take you about an hour, not even 16 or 26 years like some people.
@@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL Z13 is Hindi and it says glasses male me, you get a file that allows you to copy special char, you put that in google translator, and you press enter, the answer is on right. Z32 is Telugu, it is Solar, enkman and emperor of japan, not a single one of those are ciphers, they are all other languages, and if you do not believe it, send them to an arabic translation co, he can speak 3 languages fluently.
@@kathykline7202 oh and have you brought these solutions you claim to the FBI? What have they said? Have you run them by David Oranchak or demonstrated conclusive verification of your cipher solution? Until I see some confirmation, I’m not AT ALL interested in what you THINK they are. Too many better aspects of this case to spend mental energy on. Prove your claims
There are similarities between Zodiac and BTK, but motive is different. Zodiac´s murders are not driven by obvious sexual deviation as in case of BTK and also his m.o was very different. Plus AFAIK BTK was confirmed to be somewhere else (at the time of murders I think he was in army), than where Zodiac crimes were commited.
By the way, from known serial killers who really were active in SF area at that period, I always thought Traillside Killer was fairly good suspect for Zodiac (despite the fact that his motive was also sexual deviation, which is not the case of Zodiac) - he actually was suspect for Zodiac, but he was in jail at the time of first December murder.
Arthur Leigh Allen they just did a whole documentary on this guy. He was a teacher who taught his class how to solve these puzzles. It seemed blatantly obvious to me who the killer was. The guy is dead give it up. Did no one see the Netflix special? You all are searching for something that has already been solved 😂😂😂
I wish you would listen to your own words.. Real people died!! Real families are in anguish.. and they deserve the ‘truth’ - no one on the planet creates one of the most unique ciphers in history to just say - I like killing .. If you are sincere in your thoughts about the family - why won’t you engage with the very person you personally reached out to from an unsolicited email - of which came in with the thousands of leads you say you get a day!! It’s easier to be a great reporter if you use your skepticism to investigate vs. saying the FBI is the final word .. My dear friend .. and you know I got nothing but love for you .. but you were tricked and being used.. but I have your back - because you are a good man and you recognized our work - ‘what was your quote on the phone’? Oh I remember - you said in 30 years you had never seen anything like what we sent you and that’s why you reached out” Follow that instinct and forget about Oranchak- he knows nothing .. nice guy but has nothing to contribute- maybe they used him also.. it doesn’t matter .. The families do deserve answers and there are answers
Thats why I solved them. I heard Cheris dad collapsed, I wonder how many others. Found his name. Gave to LE, DOJ and FBI. It was him. But there were no other victims in those so called ciphers, (those are other languages too) I will tell you his name and send pics if you like. Its him all right, dna and confession, no one knows till now.
I really do not know if they told families, but seems it would have leaked out. But then they are now looking at Cheri and Donna with new eyes. Its a step. David did 4 lines only in error out of a 20 line "cipher" Had he continued he would have seen Zodiac's name. He can solve the entire Z340 now, I told him how. Those are not ciphers. Those are diff languages and you just solve them like foreign languages. Send to a translation co if you have to. Thousands believe Oranchak but he didnt solve Z340, even some people on here still believe it. I showed David how to solve remainder, how to get 3 in 1's there are two of those, I did the ciphers to give peace, I read about Mr Bates right before. but I wanted to know if there are more victims families do not know about. 3 years Steven, almost 4, that is how long it has been so far.
FBI us the final word,😂. Califoreigner BI, and San Francisco BI, blocked an employee list of suspects of a military contractor. Which is directly related to Kruschev 1958 comments declaration he take over America with out military. It's like a bad movie at the midnight show, "NO ONE is paying attention".
Jack the Ripper was Charles Allen Lechmere (the guy who was found at the scene of Polly Nichols murder). QC James Scobie says the case against him is strong enough for a modern murder trial. Never give up, I guess.
Actually dna from semen proved the Jack the Ripper cases were actually by several different people all unrelated and most of them were immigrants who would go on to leave the country. Not surprising considering some of them were Indian and they don’t seem to have much respect for women even today, some throwing acid in faces of girls who reject them
What is a fact? I am sure you have heard the phrase "beyond reasonable doubt", if you are commenting here, right? :) But you cannot compare legal terms with mathematical proofs.
The fact that he says "it definitely didn't come from the newspaper," means it absolutely came from the newspaper. Reverse anything a reporter tells you, and that's the truth.
ALA was only Zodiac if all the evidence is wrong: the bloody fingerprints, the palm print, the eyewitness descriptions, the handwriting. Modern FBI profilers also rule out ALA because he was a pedophile: his victims were children. There has never been a case of a pedophile who was also a serial killer of adults.
"The closest police have to Zodiac’s DNA are the stamps he used to post his cryptic letters. In the early 2000s, San Francisco investigators developed a partial profile by testing saliva traces retrieved from beneath a stamp. Because the profile is incomplete, it cannot rule anyone in. But it did rule out long-time suspect Arthur Leigh Allen in 2002."
I was in the 6th Grade in San Francisco during the Zodiac killings and rode a school bus. He threatened to attack a school bus and "Just shoot out the front tires and then pick off the kiddies as they come bouncing out". We were told to lay on the bus floor if anything happened and the driver was to just keep moving and not to stop. Crazy time.
Its not just history, living victims and their families are still alive.
Stopping suddenly doesn't make a whole lot of sense???
We just caught the Golden State Killer who stopped for 35 years.
The Long Island Killer was also recently caught.
@@DanielThureskog I am going to get attacked but the Zodiac killer was found too. He was found 3 ways. Z340 and Z408 name was there. I got several copies of lady of doom. I thought he had read that. It said right on front page on a reissue edited by Zodiac name. His uncles pulps matched some of the murders. Black Mask. Yearbook. Page 119
Yea this dude is a clown.
Yup. And Gary Ridgway drastically slowed down on murders after 1984. Out of his 49 known victims, only four of those were after March if '84. He was arrested in 2001.
Also, Dennis Rader's last known victim was in 1991. He was arrested in 2005.
If I can name a lottery winner or two...it does not then stand that "winning the lottery is common".
Most serial killers either get sloppy, push the envelope, want to get caught, or simply get caught.
Reddit is garbage for anything about Zodiac
Reddit is just plain garbage. Plesse let me tell you what i found by accident. I hit the wrong keys one day before I left. They have your internal id number. Someway they are capturing your emails. What they had on me, was everything zodiac captured and sorted in alphabetical order. I did ask Edward Snowden on Twitter about it, and he told me always stay away from Reddit. Maybe because it is all chrome, I dont know how they did it. Dont trust Reddit.
Test the fingerprint !
This came up in my UA-cam. I’ve always been fascinated by this. By the way I was an actor in Fincher movie and an extra. Both as I was bumped up. Was on those sets about 20 days. Also my family lives in Pacific Heights and I have checked out many of the locations around there: the cab location, the park location where he escaped after walking right by the cops. The reason I started this message is because I remember reading about some guy from Brooklyn who may have killed that girl in South Lake Tahoe and I remember going into that rabbit hole for a few days, a few years ago. On some Zodiac site I remember it said he wasn’t the guy. Best to you!
P.s. I just spent an hour looking at that Brooklyn guy Kane. He was definitely a bad dude. I think he was a part of the Zodiac “team” or “cult” as it may have been a bunch of people doing things. Kane coming from Brooklyn makes him my number 1. Was married to the #1 hit maker of 1950 (remarkable) she dumped him (makes me think of Bundy, good looking guy rejected by a woman he wanted set him loose.) and he would never have it so good.
I've always assumed it was 2 killers. Its happened before.
Yep, two working in tandem, yet separately.
He doesn't really address the question of whether the crimes themselves could be unrelated. Instead it sounds like he's responding to whether he thinks a journalist at the Chronicle could've been the killer.
My theory: Killing people turned out to be too hard, and didn't bring the killer the satisfaction/enjoyment he thought it would. (Two out of his first half-dozen victims survived, after all, and the lady with her baby got away from him as well) So he decided to just keep writing letters taking credit for random crimes. When the cops and media stopped paying attention, he tapered off.
@@TonyB2279 we don't know for sure that Johns was Zodiac
🧐Why did you do it Tony?
@@averydaymond1560 I died and was reborn in 1979. I haven't recovered that particular past-life memory yet!
@@TonyB2279 I thought you knew the case. Kathleen Johns is the lady who claimed to have been picked up by the Zodiac
@@TonyB2279 We’ll let it go since it happened before you were born.
Ya know I joke and everything but if the real zodiac killer were alive the odds of him being in this comments section are actually realistically possible. He’d probably say something morbid or compliment the killer’s intelligence. But I do believe he’s deceased.
Thank you Kevin for staying with the case and speaking to these issues as a professional. I always look forward to the next Zodiac article in the Chronicle.
My father, a GS 11 at the Presidio was given Zodiac stuff to decode. He worked on it at home while the TV was showing ball games. He worked communications at Headquarters for his second twenty years, having retired active duty in the late 1970's. Born in 1907.
So he wasted a lot of time for nothing
@@kathykline7202who are you talking about
The zodiac ciphers are super easy to solve. Get a file that allows special characters to go in google translator, drag and drop the word phrase or line. Let translator detect language, press enter. The answer is on right and it will be automatically correct. They aent ciphers, he could not do that. Yep, that is all there is to the translations. you dont decipher anything. It takes about an hour to do them all. I turned in mine and they sent me Don Olsens address for approval. They were approved. His name was in Z340 and Z408. Did he know Chester? He was working there in 70's for 3 L. He worked with radar. He was an advanced weaponry specialist. Only 4 lines of Z340 were done, you will need to do those lines over because they are incorrect, then lines 5-20 has never been seen by the public. It is Zodiacs personal information. Remember Red Drawer, thats where the killing stuff was, and you will know then I solved them. Law enforcement has them. If you dont want to solve, send to an arabic translation company. Z was fluent in 3 languages.
U wot m8 @@kathykline7202
@@kathykline7202 what your suspect name?
Amazing summary and amazing perspective you brought. Congratulations for your contribution so far.
this was good! I hope during my lifetime this will be solved! how it doesn't have millions of views of thousands of likes is beyond my understanding.
This case is actually one of the easiest cases to solve once you understand the simple key to solving it. The Zodiac killer walked away from his last murder, killing a cab driver in the Presidio Heights neighborhood. He was last seen by a police officer named Don Fouke. Zodiac faked him out and misdirected Fouke to go search in no-man's-land. Ok, this gave Zodiac about a 2 minute window to vanish into thin air. Where did he go? Remember that he was walking away from the crime scene. SFPD are swarming towards the scene from all directions. For nearly 40 year's officer Fouke lied and said he last saw Zodiac go down to the Presidio Park. In 2007 he admitted that he actually last saw Zodiac going up the steps of 3---- Jackson Street. The 7 dogs that searched the Presidio Park never picked up a scent. Well no wonder, Fouke finally admitted that he never saw Zodiac going to the Presidio Park. Ok now at this point you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out how to solve this crime. Simply start at the address Fouke mentioned 3---- Jackson Street and simply go house to house and "canvas the Presidio Heights neighborhood (research everyone who lived in the area) well guess what, NOBODY ever did. I was the first person to ever "canvas " house to house to house in a systematic & methodical way. Well I knew Zodiac had to get behind closed doors -and fast. So he couldn't have gone too far, remember he's walking. Okay well across the street from the last known sighting of the Zodiac, is a man named John Parr Cox. I have this guy - John Parr Cox on tape discussing how - just like the Zodiac killer - he too would walk up to kids in parked cars with his gun, and they would think he was a police officer. Well the Zodiac killer walked up to kids in parked cars with his gun and they thought he was a police officer - the exact same M.O. Also John Parr Cox's handwriting is identical to the Zodiac killers. He even was at the intersection of Mason and Geary the very night Zodiac was picked up there. I have tons more information and evidence. You can go to my UA-cam channel Real Zodiac Killer Revealed for more information , just click my profile pic 👍
@@adamivester9876 another nonsensical ramble, I'm surprised your still spouting this rubbish.
That was honestly him Adam. The Zodiac killer. I heard they questioned him anyway, and let him go. When Cheri was first killed someone did turn him in. He was brought in for questioning and they gave him a handwriting test. He aced it, but then again he writes two ways. When i first found him, his name was in the FBI archives as a potential suspect. The FBI removed that page when they finally listened and knew he wasnt cleared. They did listen later that day. . he got away from them not once, but TWO TIMES. i KID YOU NOT. His police reports probably still exist, but not the page in the FBI archives. I did a little test. I posted his picture in a zodiac site yesterday. NOT ONE PERSON KNEW WHO HE WAS. Toschi thought he was "too clean cut". LOL I dont know what is wrong with this world. The case and so called ciphers couldnt be any easier than what they were. The "ciphers" were only language translations. They were all done within an hour. Really, I kind of feel sorry for the cops but when I think of what he did I get angry that they didnt get him the first time. I have pictures of him. There was a third time. I have subscribed to your channel. You have common sense to know when the police do not. The so called ciphers are solved this way" --- you are going to laugh. No one even tries but this is honestly how they are solved. Put it in google translator and press enter !!! ha, ha,ha, This works. Make sure you get all special characters though. Line 6-20 contains the most clues ever! They told you more of the same ? Nope, not true, and it isnt meant to be solved in sections either. Line 5 will say "I am leaving you people with ......" It takes just 3 minutes for Z13 and Z32 but no one wants to waste their 3 minutes. It actually works, I was surprised also. But its no surprise he is a liar. We found him 4 ways Adam, got the same name each time and I wasnt the other one working on it.
Who says he did'nt go to hi's car parked in the area?
@@filukkasunivers2389 excellent question. For starters this is unlikely because Zodiac was picked up at the Mason and Geary intersection, and cabbed all the way to the Presidio Heights neighborhood across town on a Saturday night. This is exactly how the Son of Sam was caught, parking his car for too long and getting a parking ticket. This was a millionaire's neighborhood. It seems unlikely that a weird car would be parked in the neighborhood and not be noticed. Fouke said he circled back in about 30 seconds after Zodiac slipped by him. This hypothetical car would have had to have been VERY close by and Zodiac would have had to have a lot of luck to get out of the area with dozens and dozens of SFPD black and white squad cars swarming towards the scene. Also the question of how did Zodiac know the fine details of the Presidio Park search. He knew details only an eyewitness would know. John Parr Cox was looking down from his 3rd story bedroom, this is how he knew about the details of the search 👍
How did Zodiac "fake him out"? Why didn't the cop get close to him to see the blood on his clothes??
Here is as much as I will say without being prejudice to my own work. Oranchak’s mathematical guy said he found a pattern that picked lines or letters at a skip of 1/2 2/3 3/4 etc.
Which means he extracted an embedded code at best. The Zodiac did have multiple levels of coding, so that is possible.
If in fact that extracted code was truly a substitution transposed cipher and by some means Oranchak found the ‘key’ - He did not, repeat did not solve the z340 cipher.
The z340 cipher is a plain text cipher in English, with truncated words, abbreviations, anagrams, acronyms and Morse code, that code in all directions with each line depending on the intersecting lines to complete the phrases and the complete message.
It is not a substitution with a ‘key’ and the few characters that are transposed as to position are ‘reversed’ to indicate a position replacement or other characters direct the reader to the application direction , so as to not transpose characters.
His solution adds absolutely nothing on the planet earth to the case.
So in the end it’s irrelevant..
Lastly, a code or cryptology is what the code maker wants it to be - what ‘error’ did you find and where did you get a direction to randomly remove text to complete the result that just seems to appeal to you versus having that ‘rightness’ you feel when decoding is done accurately?
To me it’s an- invalid result, and forced..
Steven
There is no key, those are not ciphers. David should not have tried to decipher, he needed to translate. Absolutely correct.
@@BalOutGolf Keyword try : Billy Gohl (Billie-?) and February 13th(13), 1920. Adding 13 layers at a time . (?) …May be helpful. 🥰✨
@@BalOutGolf Also add on to those Aberdeen Wa.
Great video. Very fascinating case.
For those responding to my comments or in general :
Kevin is a friend of mine.. He does listen and he was the first person to recognize that we had something very different..
His story that he ran about David Oranchak cracking the z340 was due to reliance on ‘Cameron Polin’ the PR person for the San Francisco division of the FBI, who for some reason thought it would be good to ‘plant’ a false story about the z340 being cracked and David Oranchak’s 15 year deep desire to be famous and significant in the zodiac case allowed him to be the perfect patsy ..
Kevin - is restricted by his editors and management and they have the ‘truth’ from us about the case, but due to real people with real motives and real opportunities and who have self-identified in the actual cracked ciphers and codes, he is not allowed permission to publish that information unless the police ‘officially’ name them as suspects ..
Steven
You realize that 4 lines was only solved right ?? Z340 has 20. I did the remaining 16 lines and told David what they were. EVERY so called cipher is an offshoot of the arabic language in a rare format. Put the word or whole line including special char into google translator and see what you get. YOU DO NOT DECIPHER/ What line 4 ends with is ABROAD not DEATH. This is followed up by "I am leaving you people with .......thats line 5. They have been telling you they solved Z340, no, 16 lines were not done, and the 4 done has errors and missing words. Zodiac said if you solve Z408 and Z340 you will have me. His name was in there, both Z340 and Z408. If you are a friend of Kevins please tell him to go the Zodiac task force in SF (Scott)and ask for any new development in the Zodiac case. There is a big surprise now. If Kevin will listen. He also may ask the Zodiac task force sergeant in Brevard County about new developments, Connie Ballard case. Maybe Kevin already knows. Katie Dowd of SF Gate knows and also cannot say anything till the FBI notifies them.
Steven -The ciphers are solved. Name was found lying on top of Z340 and in each section of Z408. Like he said, if you solve it you will have me. Yes, it was solved, his name was found twice. If you are Kevins friend please tell him to ask Zodiac task force sergeant (Scott) in SF of new developments Kevin is going to be very surprised, but maybe he already knows. Those ciphers were not ciphers, I have now explained this to David. 4 lines solved with errors and missing word "abroad" I did lines 5-20 and that had more than enough clues to Zodiac identity. He was turned in then and dna was tested. Kevin may know already because he said the same thing as said to me. Katie Dowd (SFGate) was in the SFFBI office when this all went down, she might tell him also. To prove, line 5 said "I am leaving you people with " Florida Zodiac task force sergeant also knows. So, I have been laughed at if I say Florida. Too bad, it was. (Ballard case) The "ciphers" are a rare format of arabic. This was the issue, they cleared him in error as one of the very first suspects. They had to solve in two states not one. The families should know first ! They have hid stuff on this case for three years !!! Believe it or Not Thank you. (there were no more vics stated in ciphers)
The name found in two so called ciphers matched up to the "edited by" on the front of Lady of Doom. Its one reissue, and that was the thing that was different between them all. Thats why he was putting the words he said in an X
This person kathykline has no content and seems to be a ‘troll’ account
Z is ALA, he confessed to the seawater kid
so what is your opinion on the main suspect A.L.A. being the guy and why wasnt convicted
No evidence
3:09 comparing it to Jack the Ripper is that is never getting solved in my opinion it’s just too old of a mystery
I think its pretty clear who it was...
I really find the people that keep trying to link all the murders of serial killers to just one person or group annoying. No, the Manson family isn't responsible for every unsolved thrill-seeking murder in California in the late 60's and 70's. Whoever the Zodiac is/was, you probably haven't heard of him before unless it's one of the main suspects the FBI were following back during the time these crimes occurred. He was definitely a loner in his 30's or 40's, and he probably wasn't in the best of shape. I assume he was of above average intelligence but never really did anything meaningful with his life. Probably drank a lot and was extremely resentful of young couples since there is a good chance he wasn't in any long-term relationship or had much romantic success himself. The anger was focused primarily on the women; I don't think it's just that they made easier targets, I think he was resentful he couldn't find a date of his own so these murders were a way of 'taking back power' from those who have denied him in the past and who he probably blamed for lowering his sense of self-worth. He was also probably for the most part estranged from his family apart from some holiday get-together's perhaps, and probably didn't have many friends at work. Arthur Leigh Allen, in terms of physical and character description still seems like the closest guy to match the profile of the Zodiac. He was a semi-criminal, semi-recluse social deviant that lived in his mothers basement until he moved out into a trailer park. He died of a heart attack in 1991 and I feel even if he wasn't the Zodiac, then whomever was probably shared a similar fate dying in their 50's or 60's after a life of loneliness and excessive drinking, eating and smoking.
"Probably drank a lot" based on what?
"was extremely resentful of young couples since there is a good chance he wasn't in any long-term relationship or had much romantic success himself" or maybe he knew young couples would find a secluded place so they were just easier targets.
"The anger was focused primarily on the women"
Not necessarily, the two men who survived said they played dead while the women continued to resist until fatally injured. It's just a matter of circumstance. He also targeted a man with no female connection at all but like the couples he rigged the confrontation to give him an advantage. This is more an indicator of a fear of capture, notably after he was almost captured was his last confirmed murder. After that he would only send taunting letters which was obviously much safer and he seemed to still get a kick out of it.
"He was also probably for the most part estranged from his family apart from some holiday get-together's perhaps"
What is your basis for that other than noting that is how most adults are? Don't most adults only see relatives at get-togethers?
"probably didn't have many friends at work"
Why? Would having friends have cured his homicidal urges or would it just be impossible for him to be friends with humans and then kill other humans.
Where are you getting this profile from?
This seems less like a profile and more of a polemic to disparage murderers.
When actual serial killers are caught they are disappointingly normal, they're moderately successful in work and family life. They really are mr average except these horrific crimes.
I believe that the Zodiac was also the letter writer and the ciphers sender.
I would say that the Zodiac Killer whoever he was has already passed away by now and has probably been gone from this world for quite some time. But is he is still alive he would be 80+ years by now and there is always the slim possibility of a deathbed confession. I'd be amazed if that were to ever happen, for as he would say "why spoil the game"?
Yeah...dude would truly ruin his legacy. I am sure he took satisfaction that nobody will ever know his identity.
@@8176morgan He died November 12th, 1975.
He is dead now, but wasnt at the time he was apprehended, he was alive then of course. THERE IS A DEATHBED CONFESSION NOT HEARD BY PUBLIC YET kEVIN PROBABLY KNOWS THIS. hE KNOWS THINGS ARE HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW, he alluded to it, and he is right too. He was 77 at the time.
The serial killer known as Jack The Ripper preceded the Zodiac Killer by some 90 years, therefore the Zodiac Killer is America's version of JTR.
In my opinion the killer is/was a person who knows the area very well. In detail. Because some of the killings happened at spots where outsiders couldn't know about. In that time, there wasn't something like a (digital) navigation system. And how were they (otherwise) be able to find those specific places if that was the case? Killers don't search for unknown places to commit murders. They don't kill by coincidence. They have a plan, and a specific (familiar) place where they search for victims and want to kill a certain type of person (or persons). I have a feeling that if you compare the DNA of the Zodiac killer with the DNA of people who lived in that area in the 60s and 70s, you'll be able to find this guy. There almost certainly will be a match with one or more family members.
JUst FYi - this is how Zodiac can be found in a few minutes. Just informational only - It was the cross thing. By knife, by gun, by fire, etce That comes from the Zodiac's uncle editing one reissue of Lady of Doom, that is where he got it. Led to him directly same name, same murder plots in his uncles magazines. Uncle could have made the costume, his line of clothing was called Zodiac. He was pattern maker, costume designer. Former NJ cop. No one knows uncles story, very very interesting man. Hes on some peoples list as most admired. He was also the Mikado influence. His name, Zodiac name handed down thus that issue is under Zodiac name, its the same as uncle, its his actual name first and last. He also was a famous ballet dancer, going on to establish one of the most influential in america, interesting information never before heard. . It is now possible to determine Zodiac name of course. Two min or less is the time it takes now for the identity. NOW his name is easily found in Z340 and Z408. It went to FBI and SFPD immediately. Not very smart huh and DEFINITELY he was NOT crackproof. He left it super easy to find him.
perhaps earliest ciphers/clues will be the ones that carry the biggest clues and provide the name of offender. later ciphers are more sophisticated and probably used to cover up earlier mistake. Williamson is a name that fits.
jeffery maybe.
Real Zodiac, wherever he is, will still have a piece of the cab driver's shirt and probably the black hood he used at the lake attack.
Good point. But I don´t think so. Because the Zodiac killer seemed not to collect trophies.
The killing stuff was always kept in a Red Drawer and that is towards the bottom of Z340 in the 16 lines never solved on TV. He also bitched about the atmosphere, he mentioned Black Panthera, he said "My worst enemy is G" he said execution or life in prison, there is much more. He is bitching about many different things. Ok, the identity is found like this: You go to right fist, his name is towards the top, first letter of last name only (full name is in Z408) , now you go out to the middle, you pick randomly, you wind like a snake, you then go clear to the bottom picking letters, it will look like a sine wave. Its plain English First letter will be in the four lines David supposedly solved. He didnt solve Z340.
@Mindless-1337 how the hell do you know that?
Because it is his only way to prove he was Zodiac. I wonder if one day a relative will find these items in a box hidden in an attic or basement or in a dresser drawer one day when Zodiac dies.
@@patrickmccarron5059 very unlikely
What about Joe Bevilacqua? Sorry i don't know if he's a relevant name in the community but as an Italian I'm into our personal serial killer mystery, Florence's Moster.
Recently there are some people who advance a theory about Zodiac being the Monster himself, also seems that the guy confessed to a journalist (Francesco Amicone) and was ready to turn himself in before he changed his mind. Anyway, Bevilacqua was allegedly working in San Francisco as an undercover investigator for the Army at the time of the murders, and then moved in Italy in the same place and time of the Monster occuring murders. He even participated in the Monsters trial as a witness. (His testimony is not coerent btw, like most of that trial anyway)
There are plenty of researchs going after this connection and I know it sounds kinda crazy, but everything makes more sense the more you dig into it.
For istance, that's the first italian case of serial killing and the modus operandi is almost the same as Zodiac's, the victims and the context resemble the same as Zodiac ones.
Once the monster stopped, he send a letter to the police with a mammal from the last victim, and the address was composed with journal letters that cointains various key words in the back, like Acqua(water), or Paradise. They figure that he also took the letter Z from a Zodiac add in the magazine he used for all of the letters (Valeria Vecchione spent 2 years looking for this magazine and all the letters).
There are plenty of stuff like this, Zodiac and the Monster both killed once during 12/20, that is Bevilacqua birthday.
The reference with water is in his surname, and they keep coming in the killing areas even in Italy. The sole fact that he used two types of glue in the letter to let the police access at the magazine data in the letter is astonishing, also there's a typo that can't be present in a letter of that level of precision (he wrote Repubblica with one b, like in Republic).
There are plenty of other coincidences and this guy almost decide to confess, but who knows.
Currently someone manage to send an DNA sample of Bevilacqua to the FBI so we still see what will come up, and last, the guy died two years ago, so if he turns out to be Zodiac killer, he actually won on two separate sides.
Maybe a death bed confession one day
Here is my question: Don’t newspapers offer retractions when the information they print is subsequently proven inaccurate?
Secondly, the Unibomber case went unsolved for over 20 yrs with Law Enforcement’s best trying to stop and active killer, but the case was not solved by law enforcement was it? The answer, it was solved by his brother’s wife who recognized the handwriting and the themes..
So, in conclusion- yes many thoughts and theories on Reddit are false.. 98% are pure speculation based on nothing ..
But the Los Angeles investigation is based on the words, images, and code of the letters, envelopes .. which has gone directly to real people ..
Finally, the z340 has not been solved by David Oranchak ..
The FBI did not solve the unibomber case - so how can you say they are the final word?
A fellow who actually knows the truth..
Charlie & Ellen & Albert Lee Terry, Jr.
It wasn’t his brothers wife, it was his brother recognising his handwriting.
YOU ARE RIGHT REDONDO, DAVID DIDNT SOLVE. THE 4 LINES HE DID HAVE A MISSING WORD "ABROAD" WHICH IS WHERE HE WENT AND THAT WORD ALSO MISSED. Lines 5-20 contain all clues about himself, who he hates, and is a little rant about green energy. All you do to solve is put in google translator with the special char. It always was that easy and it was even easier to find him and his accomplice. I gave his name and cipher solves to all of LE there and the FBI and DOJ. I got calls or letters back. They were nice enough to tell me the end of the story. But they got a confession. Its on tape. A woman who knows truth too. Dont bother giving that to Kevin, he believes nothing not even the truth. The name is english in Z340 and Z408.
Kevin is a friend of mine.. He does listen and he was the first person to recognize that we had something very different..
His story that he ran about David Oranchak cracking the z340 was due to reliance on ‘Cameron Polin’ the PR person for the San Francisco division of the FBI, who for some reason thought it would be good to ‘plant’ a false story about the z340 being cracked and David Oranchak’s 15 year deep desire to be famous and significant in the zodiac case allowed him to be the perfect patsy ..
Kevin - is restricted by his editors and management and they have the ‘truth’ from us about the case, but due to real people with real motives and real opportunities and who have self-identified in the actual cracked ciphers and codes, he is not allowed permission to publish that information unless the police ‘officially’ name them as suspects ..
Steven
@@Redondo-ex6oh No David did not solve Z340, he just left you with 16 remaining lines and told you "more of the same" Well, it wasnt, it chock full of clues, and the identity of Zodiac is right inside. Hardens also missed his name. I was told that too, i cant tell till officially named. I wish 2 people on here" would just stop asking who he is and calling me names, I cant tell, I was told not to. His name is clear, right in Z340 and Z408 and on one reissue of Lady of Doom We should talk. So Kevin also found out who Zodiac was ?? If not, I will tell him, but I dont know how to contact, and I will show him his identity in the so called ciphers. Yep they are hiding, They have had information for almost 4 years !!! Scott told me it could take years to get through all they had to do. Yep, they should let victims families know at the minimum. Everything you said is correct. Media member Katie Dowd of SF Gate also knows his identity.
I really think he told everyone his name .. several times. “Guess”
Zodiac was on tapatalk fo rmany years under his real name. Voight didnt know any better. He was on Zodiac sites watching things said about him.
Lee Oswald turned 85 this month, so Zodiac can still be alive
I strongly believe that It was Joe Bevilacqua.
Based on what evidence
Actually we got a confession.
Zodiac=Moster of Florence may be: Amicone's suspect was Joseph aka Giuseppe Bevilacqua (Totowa, United States, 20 December 1935 - Sesto Fiorentino, Italy, 23 December 2022) a former ABMC superintendent at the Florence American Cemetery in Italy, who testified to the Pacciani Trial..
What do you think?
We really did get a confession before his death as well as full strand dna matches in the two states he murdered in Zodiac is an unknown guy.
@kathykline7202 there is not Zodiac DNA, unfortunately but American investigation got Bevilacqua's one. There is no chance to find who is Zodiac, too late. Cheers
The Zodiac killer was a Merchant Marine Captain . He lived in Ben Lomond, Ca. He was in his mid 50”s when he met Darlene Ferrin . At that time her last name was still Suennen. He thought she was older because she was only 16 years old when they met . She gets pregnant right off the bat! He then finds out her age & just could not let the cat out of the bag! No way . And Darlene’s Parents if they would have found out , most definately would have pressed Statutory rape on him ! When Darlene started to show with the baby is when Zodiac got her out of the state & brought her up to Washington state . She stayed in a mobile home located on the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Beautiful place . John & Clarence Anglin were staying there until Darlene came. Then they had to go into Canada . Darlene could not go to a hospital to have the baby .Under 18. I mean sure she could have but to her , Why risk it. She flew 2 nurses up to Washington , one a nursing student still . The other a graduated nurse. They delivered Darlene’s baby . Then flew back home. After a few weeks after the baby girl was born , Darlene gets homesick & wants to go back to California. Zodiac sets her up in an apartment . Everything paid. Zodiac finds out about the 2 nurses & also Paul Stine. He took the 2 nurses to the airport. (Per Darlene. ).
Zodiac flies in to Ca. from Japan. He’s on a 2.5 year contract working over there . He meets his baby for the first time. He finds out the names of the nurses. Tells Darlene he needs to run errands and leaves. She follows without him knowing , out to Riverside college. Darlene watching from afar. Zodiac goes over to a Volkswagen bug & messes with the distributor cap & walks away . Cheri JO Bates comes out of the library goes to her car & it won’t start. Zodiac walks by & asks her if she needs help? She agrees & they walk to zodiacs car & zodiac kills her while Darlene watches everything . This freaks Darlene plum out!! She drives back home knowing she’s got to play it cool with him when he gets back . He pays for everything! She manages to pull it off when he returns. He leaves the next day. Darlene knew she was finished with him ! Not only with him but their Daughter as well . Darlene the next day makes arrangements to give her daughter to her church & they were to arrange some type of adoption for the baby . And gives her daughter away . Darlene meets Dean Ferrin . She gets pregnant again . Marries him. zodiac finds out and flies back from Japan to Ca. When Darlene gave away their Daughter she had told the Wife of zodiacs younger brother that she was doing it. Her baby was also very sick at the time too . The church ended up taking the baby to a hospital . Zodiacs sister found the baby in the hospital . The baby ended up on zodiacs side of the family but hidden.
I’ll be back with the rest of this story . Look for Part 2 from me soon. Thanks 😊✨
If ANY of the ciphers clues sent to you contained the name GOLDEN , KIMBERLEY, BILLY GOHL…you’re on the right track!!! Trust me .
Excellent video, sir! I agree with getting the info out there. Kaczynski is a perfect example (and being Polish-American as well, we don’t claim him) but I’ve heard people seriously criticize True Crime podcasts, CrimeCon, etc but I see them as modern day America’s Most Wanted, Unsolved Mysteries, among others. If it wasn’t for Most Wanted, John List would have never come to justice. 25 years later, and 2,000 miles from where it took place. When it comes to newspapers printing thing at the request of the killer, they can only give themselves away. BTK was foiled by new technology he didn’t thoroughly understand. If you guys print his stuff, he’ll probably continue making contact, and at some point he’ll slip up. Not just Zodiac, but any criminal. I think the good you make possible far outweighs any bad.
I found his name, it was in Z340 and Z408, it has been gived to the FBI and editor of SF chronicle with proof. HE WAS THE FIRST TEEN SERIAL KILLER. DNA was a match. Kevin doesnt listen, so I had to send to someone else there. The ciphers were never ciphers, Zodiac was multi lingual. Those are all different versions of arabic in an english like form you dont see much. Now pop the whole thing in google translator, press enter. It was just that easy. The most clues you are going to find is in Z340 lines 5-20, do those 4 lines over to correct those. He told you he was going abread and that was missed. It is right. All of it including identity. LE will not tell you at this time. There may be two vics more, and the number 5 is not correct, it is higher than that. It only took 50 years and they had him twice and let him go. There is someone else as well, and before your critisim solve one of them. You will know I am telling the truth, I DARE YOU TO DEBUNK KEVIN FAGAN, BECAUSE YOU CANT.
Lol! This guy? WTH? Three times he said “I don’t know” to questions he posted. He’s a fake news reporter who’s done nothing with this. He literally offered less than nothing new or interesting. He’s a dummy and a bore.
Don’t get upset over what people think or said
always laugh at people who get but hurt by someone's opinion of something
Re: Jack the Ripper
‘They All Love Jack: Busting the Ripper” by Bruce Robinson
A stunning work!
I wonder why Richard Gaikowski isn’t on more people’s suspect list.
He was in New York State during some of the murders.
@ Do you have a favorite suspect?
@@aguy559 Not really. They all seem to have some circumstantial evidence and some of it's good but no hard evidence. It's just conjecture. The Zodiac is a man with a deep fantasy life. I think he stopped because he came so close to being caught. I think he met a woman and she stayed with him. The Zodiac case drives me nuts.
@ I imagine that he probably DID have a deep fantasy life. Drives me crazy too, although I’ll confess to not being the most knowledgeable person there is in the topic.
I wonder how it could be solved.
The new Netflix Documentary makes it 100% clear to any reasonable person that it’s Arthur Lee Allen. Case Closed
No it doesn't.
I agree, especially how those kids were left in the car while he went down to beach to kill that couple and they said he came back around 1/2 hour later. The guy was definitely a freak
@@theycantallbezodiac have you seen it?
@djf750 it's not a fact that he killed the couple. The Seawater's have a memory of Allen having blood on him, that doesn't prove he killed the couple.
@@theycantallbezodiac weren't their bodies found shortly after he and the kids took off, and she said she went to wipe off the blood and he pushed her away with force.
Do you at least admit that he MAY have done it?
It’s most likely Richard, Darlene Ferrin’s previous acquaintance.
Part 2:
At this point Zodiac is out to find one thing, DARLENE! He flies back from Japan to find Darlene. He only has a 2 day stay. Then has to get back to Japan . Paul Stine fills him in on Darlene & her new baby /married. He is on a mission to find her . Zodiac is parked at a store or some where & sees a girl that looks like Darlene. It’s Betty Lou Jensen & she is w/David Farraday. Zodiac thinking this is Darlene follows them
Out to Lake Herman rd . They park . He pulls in behind them . Gets out shoots them both dead. He walks over to the girl sees it’s not Darlene, leaves. “Mistaken identity kill”. He then flies back to Japan. Knowing he shot the wrong person & that Darlene did what she did with their baby. He is just stewing on everything. He was totally over taken over by wanting her dead . He has nothing but time on his hands to think about it . He comes back in to the Port of Chicago with his ship , the Japan job finally finished. He’s at Mare island and so is Darlene. He see’s her and her little sister giving away buttons . Kris, her little sister is running for “Miss Firecracker “. Whoever gives out the most buttons wins. Darlene gets invited to go on a boat ride. She goes.,She sees Zodiac on his small boat & they meet eyes . This scares the chit out of Darlene. She has the boat driver bring her back to shore. Darlene grabs her little sister Kris & they bolt out of there! Darlene drives to her parents house . They both go inside . Darlene knew that Zodiac is pissed off for giving their baby away. Darlene is frightened of him . She saw what he did to Cheri Jo bates ! She knows what he’s capable of. This is when Darlene tells her mom, Don’t be surprised if you read about me in tomorrows newspaper . Darlene leaves. She drives to her work, Terrys house of pancakes. Zodiac right on her tail . She pulls in to Terrys parking lot & parks.,Zodiac pulls in & gets out of his car. Darlene and him are nose to nose arguing. Customers see this as reported in this case. Darlene goes inside . Then comes back out. She leaves drives to her house. She’s having a small party for the 4th of July. Zodiac follows. Darlene goes in to her house. Zodiac goes in 5 minutes later. He sits on the couch waiting for Darlene. Darlene is in her bedroom . She changes her clothes & she tells her little brother, Leo, to stay away from the man that Just walked in because he is dangerous! And to hold down the house cuz she was leaving to pick up fireworks. She slips out the back door of her bedroom & leaves. Zodiac catches on and leaves too . Darlene goes to pick up Mike Mageau & Zodiac is trying to find her . He parks at Mr. Eds
hamburger stand. Few minutes later Darlene & Mike pull in. She sees him & takes off like a bat out of hell! Zodiac follows. She pulls in to Blue Rock Springs & we all know what happened there.
I will be back for
Part 3 . Stay tuned 🥰✨
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@ It’s the truth !
@@thecat8905 ridiculous.
@ Why? Give a reason . I know the truth. It’s far from ridiculous . It’s the Only story that has EVER made sense! Ever! And I have proof to back it up ! Darlene had 2 daughters not just one. Have a nice day . Back up what you say .
half of this video was actually about Ted Cruz
Is the woman who was taken for a ride by supposed zodiac still alive?
If so show her pics of the suspects to see if she recognizes anyone, was this ever done? If not why not?
The lady your referring to is Kathleen Johns. Yes, it would be interesting to hear what she had to say.
@ she shud look at pics of ever zodiac suspect, that hasnt been done?
There’s a reason this case has never been solved. The zodiac was in law enforcement. If they actually solved this case it would hurt them more than help them. Think of all the law suits that would come there way from the victims families
Interesting video, love it. Thank you for sharing....but serial killers do stop cold turkey, in my opinion. BTK did it, and so did the Golden State killer. They might not have stopped taunting, but they didn't have any further killings.
Yup. Also, while Ridgway murdered someone about three years before he was arrested, 45 of his 49 known murders were committed from 1982-1984.
The idea that serial killers can't slow down, change MOs, and flat-out stop are drawn from the fact that a large majority of serial killers tend to be caught not much longer after murdering their last victim. Of course, that's a ridiculous assumption since there's no way to know if those caught would have eventually stopped. And, as you pointed out, there are examples of those who did.
For those of us who were alive when these murders happened the way its all treated by young people who treat this as entertainment need to take a step back and consider that there are many families for who it was the ryin of their lives because they are still alive. F***ing ghouls treating this as entertainment are nasty thoughtless idiots.
I only worked on this case to find him because I heard what happened to Mr and Mrs Bates, and thought there were more family members like this. I also wanted to find additional vics so they would be laid to rest. I am not a ghoul and I found Zodiac and solved the ciphers, they arent ciphers, he was just lying. Those are rare languages to be translated. Additional names arent in there. There was 16 lines left in Z340 that contained all the clues you need, and his name was in Z340 and Z408. His identity to be annouced. Not by me.
I'm Brit and we joke about everything.
It's not Ted Cruz!
Debunk mine … Seriously ! You won’t be able to . I am the hidden Daughter of Darlene Ferrin . She got involved with a Merchant Marine Captain . I am her first Daughter before Deana. I am the spitting image of Darlene. I know the story . One more thing … I didn’t know this until 5 years ago . Spun my world a complete 360’/180…whatever …! I am very very serious !
@@thecat8905 Darlene was a cat?
@@jamessherosick2747 ….hahahaha… you so funny chump! Not - -
@@thecat8905 just being silly, in an otherwise very serious topic. Please take no offense.
@@jamessherosick2747 Meow…
You have my condolences Cat. I am so sorry that this happened to your mom.
My personal theory is that of the top 3 FBI suspects, all of them committed at least one of the murders.
Claiming credit for kills he didnt do fits the psychologist profile as the FBI BSU profile says that the main factor was "proving his intellectual superiority to compinsate for an inferiority complex"
I think Laurence Kane, Aurthur Lee and Jack Tarrance are all likley to hage commited one of the murders at least.
For me the question is how the kills are divided between these suspecys
This mystery didnt solve ever
Didn't ever solve this mystery
The Zodiac killer was D.B. Cooper, that is why it has been so hard to solve.
I have a theory about D. B. Cooper. The reason it’s been so hard to find evidence on him is 1. He never existed and 2. No one ever jumped out of the plane ..
The only thing better than having a bomb and high-jacking a plane for ransom and then jumping out of it - is to make people believe that is what happened..
@@jamessherosick2747 no no no
@@thecat8905 help me make sense of it. I was 10 years old and and there has been a zillion theories, this is the first one to make my brain stop leaking fluid.
There is some guy at work who doesnt flush. He is only known as D.B. Pooper.
@@jamessherosick2747 start by reading only the known FACTS. Refer to ballistics, crime scene data and logic
I still think it’s Ted Cruz.
Drew Carey.
@@mrplow8 you’re high !!
@@thecat8905 That’s inappropriate. A lot of people’s lives are destroyed by drugs. You shouldn’t joke about such a serious subject.
He would have been like 6 or 7 years old Genius!
@@mrplow8…lol..Look who’s talking bone -head …!!! …hahaha 😂😂😂
i believe there were two zodiak killers, who were friends working together. I believe the two men were Arthur Lee Allen and Donald Lee Cheney.
Don Cheney looks like the composite from the taxi cab killing.
But...they don't just stop.They can't. He,or her,dead or in prison.Gotta be.
That first letter would be a great movie
There never was a Zodiac killer.
Hi Kevin. I reached out to you several years ago on a candidate. I have continued to research him and I can tell you with absolute certainty that he checks every box on the Zodiac crimes. There is no angle from which he does not answer. IF there is ever the possibility of a sleuth coming along and presenting a legitimate case for who the Zodiac Killer is, this has to be the one. I should have been able to rule him out. There is a wealth of material available on this individual. It should have been easy to rule him out. Yet nothing has been found that enables me to do so. When I spoke with you, you rejected this individual as a potential suspect out of hand though you said you could be wrong. This is not a criticism because I fully appreciate your position here and it was a logical response on your part. So he remains, not only a viable and compelling candidate, but an absolute gold standard prototype for who the Zodiac Killer was.
Name your suspect then
@@theycantallbezodiac I understand the why of your challenge but there is no point to engaging in a tit for tat here on this topic. It is juvenile and unproductive and will not affect or effect anything of value. This perspective comes from several years of experience in this matter. Absolutely no offense intended. I do really like your user name BTW.
@@K862-l2l every week people come forward claiming theyve solved the case or have the perfect suspect but can't back it up. I challenge you to provide details that your suspect is Zodiac. It's not tit for tat, I'm asking you to show the evidence to back up what is just another silly claim. I also have been interested in the Zodiac for several years.
I don’t believe you ever talked to Kevin .. period ! And if your information is based on the Presidio Heights suspect sketch - you may be right about who killed Paul Stine, but you have no clue who the Zodiac is .. there were two men in and out of that cab on that street that night .. One was the Zodiac - who arrived from downtown and the other was the killer of Paul Stine who hailed the cab a block later and shot the man in the back of the head .. and fled
@@K862-l2l You replied to Tom Voight and he is playing a game with you. He already knows his name from hacking my email.
Based upon the 2007 Zodiac movie: I think the Zodiac was possibly two people. One who wrote the letters (left handed as a right handed person ambidextrously), and another who was a murderer. I think that is why the suspect's hand writing never match the Zodiac's hand writing. And the Zodiac's murders were possibly two people wanting to try to outsmart the judicial system, and wanting to hurt other people. I hope this can help in some way. I think the people who focus on the Zodiac (except Police Officials) relish in the darkness with life stupidly. I hope for justice for those who where affected. And I hope we go on too with life.
You don't say? Tell me more.
I believe it was 3 people, The cab 🚕 driver in San Francisco was just a fluke and random killer , but the zodiac killer took credit for it.
@michwashington How could that be? He sent a piece of the cab driver's bloody shirt with a letter, and the handwriting matched the previous letters.
@@RobertBurke-tq9zu If that be true , then I stand corrected. But I think because he broke the pattern with Paul Stine , I think it was a different guy parading as the Zodiac, plus the zodiac took credit for other people’s crimes because of the attention.
@@EdEdwardsCiphers OMG 😳, That's exactly what the Zodiac Killer would write! Keep him engaged and maybe you can get a confession. Good work @EdEdwardCiphers!!
1.) I am actually quite optimistic and I think that Zodiac case will be solved in next 10 - 15 years..... and AI will probably help too.
2.) I have no idea who Zodiac killer was, but I think that police and armed forces should search in their archives from 50s or early 60s. Zodiac clearly had something to do with armed forces (regarding recent rumours - I do NOT think it was Hoffman) and it was someone who failed to join armed forces or was fired / left with shame..... I actually think that we never really found real motive for murders yet - but I suppose it was some sort of revenge - I´ll make fools from you.
3.) My suggestion.... Letters, ciphers.... get rid off it and investigate it like if they never existed. Dont search for a clue which never existed. They are false lead, probably "made up" to create false direction of investigation. They say actually nothing relevant about killer.... "collecting slaves for afterlife"? Give me a break..... No. I would suggest one more idea. I always thought that Zodiac killer was "fictional" character created by serial killer who murdered before and after Zodiac murders, BUT he created this false almost "comics identity" because for some reason, he needed to "hide" his true identity behind this crazy character. I mean.... there was personal connection with one of those victims and he used this "alter-ego" to cover it.... By the way, by serial killer who murdered before and after Zodiac, I dont mean like 20 victims combined with Zodiac, I mean like 8- 10 including Zodiac´s ones.
He did he did, what he was copying was his uncles pulp murders, he wrote mostly for Black ace, and Black Mask and he worked for Stan Lee also, he was an editor for one reissue of Lady of Doom. Great insight. Yes it was revenge. It may be this year it is solved, its real real close. Those ciphers are actually obsecure languages. Translator will tell you the answers or an arabic translation co. You will know his name by Z340 and Z408. Its right there.
I always got the same idea that that collecting slaves was just bs. I'm not sure why he talked about it but I have NEVER believed he actually believes that. About that personal connection part with one of the victims I don't think so but it's totally possible. That would also explain why he seemingly stopped but there are countless other possible reason for that
I think it's importart to remember that intially police investigated the crimes just like any homicides by trying to figure out who would want to kill those teens. That's how you find suspicious people etc who had nothing to do with the killing. The idea that Zodiac knew one of the victims does deserve some more investigating but at this point I don't believe so. Military connection of some type seems very possible. Letters should be looked gor physical evidence like DNA and they have at least palm print from one of them. I also believe Zodiac was clever enough to create false leads in his letters so everything he says should be taken with grain of salt however I do think he might have slipped something about himself for example when he mentioned having basement in one of those letters. Even that could be intentional false clue but one thing Z340 solution proved Zodiac does sometimes give hints. He used almost identical wording in his later letters the frase "I hope you are having" and the fact he used diaconal writing on envelopes including the one Z340 was sent in. So I wonder if he give some other real hints aswell.
@@kathykline7202
Maybe I am wrong, but.... I assume ZK never revealed his identity in his letters or ciphers....
But... who knows, BTK actually revealed his identity in one of ciphers sent to press (he actually gave up his address..... but it was discovered AFTER he was caught!).
@@petrcejka2125 He did though. Remember he said in a letter (if you solve it you will have me?} That was true. Maybe first truth he told.
I strongly disagree.
The Zodiac had nothing to do with armed forced cos he was sloppy with his killings.
I doubt it will ever be solved conclusively.
Yes it was. "if you solve it you will have me" his name was in Z340 and Z408, and you all have NEVER seen Z340 solved in full, 16 lines were remaining to be done. They have the method now, they were able to solve in full not long ago.
That's because LE screwed up this case. They almost caught the him too when he killed taxi driver Paul Stine.
Two different murderers
The real zodiac I think killed those couples the cabby I think was some Random person who’s a killer as well but to confuse the cops so they think it just one killer why you ask because all the letters sent why only with the cab driver did he send a piece of ripped clothes from the victim to prove he did it and not send anything with the letters he sent claiming he killed the couples apart from writing how he killed them where he killed them which I’m sure the papers covering the killings put in there papers just like now a days you read the details which explain to you everything
“You treat the murders like info-tainment” says the guy recording a video about the murders/killings for UA-cam… bit o’ the ol’ pot an’ kettle there bud…
This reporter is ready to do some C W Nevius type stories.
I’d love to show you a picture
I think he's been dead for a while. I also think it was more than one person (possibly 3 working in concert) they're all dead i'd assume.
the last netflix series about this... done, solved... that guy did it
This was posted 4 days ago and he's supposed to be the "zodiac guy" but he doesn't know that ALL of the messages have been solved now and have been for probably a few years?😂
Typical fake news, arrogant about how little they know.
The irony…
The Z13 and Z32 are UNSOLVED. The Z13 essentially CANNOT be solved because it’s too short to verify a solution
@@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL They are solved. Z13 says glasses male me, now manipulate the langugae and break it again. it now says put P over A and C over N? I think thats it. Make the changes Zodiac told you, and do it again. this time you will get XXXXXXXZ13, the X's you get to solve. Z32 says Solar, Enkman, Emperor of Japan. Z13 is HIndii and Z32 is Telugu. These were broken and have been approved. YOU TRANSLATE THEM ALL, YOU DO NOT DECIPHER A THING. z COULDNT CIPHER. You do the same with all the others, and they should take you about an hour, not even 16 or 26 years like some people.
@@NUKEHOAX2024OFFICIAL Z13 is Hindi and it says glasses male me, you get a file that allows you to copy special char, you put that in google translator, and you press enter, the answer is on right. Z32 is Telugu, it is Solar, enkman and emperor of japan, not a single one of those are ciphers, they are all other languages, and if you do not believe it, send them to an arabic translation co, he can speak 3 languages fluently.
@@kathykline7202 PROVE IT
@@kathykline7202 oh and have you brought these solutions you claim to the FBI? What have they said? Have you run them by David Oranchak or demonstrated conclusive verification of your cipher solution?
Until I see some confirmation, I’m not AT ALL interested in what you THINK they are. Too many better aspects of this case to spend mental energy on.
Prove your claims
Ted Cruise is the zodiac tho, I saw it on the internet.
My case is very comparable to Jack the Ripper , Very!
He likely continued killing. Just didn't yap about it.
I believe the zodiac was BTK. Has anyone interviewed him about that.?
There are similarities between Zodiac and BTK, but motive is different. Zodiac´s murders are not driven by obvious sexual deviation as in case of BTK and also his m.o was very different. Plus AFAIK BTK was confirmed to be somewhere else (at the time of murders I think he was in army), than where Zodiac crimes were commited.
By the way, from known serial killers who really were active in SF area at that period, I always thought Traillside Killer was fairly good suspect for Zodiac (despite the fact that his motive was also sexual deviation, which is not the case of Zodiac) - he actually was suspect for Zodiac, but he was in jail at the time of first December murder.
jesus NO
Totally different thing
Arthur Leigh Allen they just did a whole documentary on this guy. He was a teacher who taught his class how to solve these puzzles. It seemed blatantly obvious to me who the killer was. The guy is dead give it up. Did no one see the Netflix special? You all are searching for something that has already been solved 😂😂😂
I wish you would listen to your own words.. Real people died!! Real families are in anguish.. and they deserve the ‘truth’ - no one on the planet creates one of the most unique ciphers in history to just say - I like killing ..
If you are sincere in your thoughts about the family - why won’t you engage with the very person you personally reached out to from an unsolicited email - of which came in with the thousands of leads you say you get a day!!
It’s easier to be a great reporter if you use your skepticism to investigate vs. saying the FBI is the final word ..
My dear friend .. and you know I got nothing but love for you .. but you were tricked and being used.. but I have your back - because you are a good man and you recognized our work - ‘what was your quote on the phone’? Oh I remember - you said in 30 years you had never seen anything like what we sent you and that’s why you reached out”
Follow that instinct and forget about Oranchak- he knows nothing .. nice guy but has nothing to contribute- maybe they used him also.. it doesn’t matter .. The families do deserve answers and there are answers
Thats why I solved them. I heard Cheris dad collapsed, I wonder how many others. Found his name. Gave to LE, DOJ and FBI. It was him. But there were no other victims in those so called ciphers, (those are other languages too) I will tell you his name and send pics if you like. Its him all right, dna and confession, no one knows till now.
I really do not know if they told families, but seems it would have leaked out. But then they are now looking at Cheri and Donna with new eyes. Its a step. David did 4 lines only in error out of a 20 line "cipher" Had he continued he would have seen Zodiac's name. He can solve the entire Z340 now, I told him how. Those are not ciphers. Those are diff languages and you just solve them like foreign languages. Send to a translation co if you have to. Thousands believe Oranchak but he didnt solve Z340, even some people on here still believe it. I showed David how to solve remainder, how to get 3 in 1's there are two of those, I did the ciphers to give peace, I read about Mr Bates right before. but I wanted to know if there are more victims families do not know about. 3 years Steven, almost 4, that is how long it has been so far.
This man Is smart and well spoken.
And dismissive.
This was awful.
I sent you an email .
Rthur Lee Allen
FBI us the final word,😂.
Califoreigner BI, and San Francisco BI, blocked an employee list of suspects of a military contractor.
Which is directly related to Kruschev 1958 comments declaration he take over America with out military.
It's like a bad movie at the midnight show, "NO ONE is paying attention".
The bomb threat was st s microwave tower, DEWs.
Spent way too much time crying about a joke. Get a grip bro.
This guy has way too much neiveity for those in his own profession. Psychopaths flock to journalism.
Love Courtney.
Yes, it is Ted Cruz!
Jack the Ripper was Charles Allen Lechmere (the guy who was found at the scene of Polly Nichols murder). QC James Scobie says the case against him is strong enough for a modern murder trial. Never give up, I guess.
Thats not a fact
Actually dna from semen proved the Jack the Ripper cases were actually by several different people all unrelated and most of them were immigrants who would go on to leave the country. Not surprising considering some of them were Indian and they don’t seem to have much respect for women even today, some throwing acid in faces of girls who reject them
What is a fact? I am sure you have heard the phrase "beyond reasonable doubt", if you are commenting here, right? :) But you cannot compare legal terms with mathematical proofs.
@@blazbratovic2724 you're stating as a fact that Lechmere is the Ripper.
@@theycantallbezodiac And I am asking you what do you consider as a fact.
Jack the Ripper DID leave behind a diary.
That was a hoax.
@@Bigwave2003 No, that was the diary of Jack the Ripper.
Tea he
You spell it TEE HEE
@@kathykline7202 its actually tea she
@@yoda9518 LOL yoda Good comeback.
The zodiac is Donald Trump
I like how staged your little research nook is.
The fact that he says "it definitely didn't come from the newspaper," means it absolutely came from the newspaper. Reverse anything a reporter tells you, and that's the truth.
We all know the Zodiac was Ted Cruz😂
Yoo the zodiac was already found brother, Richard Hoffman, do your research
bro just stop
@@vibingdude7188 you ok bro?
@@vibingdude7188 you must be living under a rock or your mama’s basement
Arthur Leigh Allen was the Zodiac. It’s already been solved.
When?
While, yes, that’s *almost* certainly true (and yes, I’m EXTREMELY knowledgeable in this case) the case is NOT officially solved
ALA was only Zodiac if all the evidence is wrong: the bloody fingerprints, the palm print, the eyewitness descriptions, the handwriting. Modern FBI profilers also rule out ALA because he was a pedophile: his victims were children. There has never been a case of a pedophile who was also a serial killer of adults.
@@kathykline7202 I'm not Tom. Please stop
"The closest police have to Zodiac’s DNA are the stamps he used to post his cryptic letters. In the early 2000s, San Francisco investigators developed a partial profile by testing saliva traces retrieved from beneath a stamp. Because the profile is incomplete, it cannot rule anyone in.
But it did rule out long-time suspect Arthur Leigh Allen in 2002."