Shimano Tranx 200 or Curado K: THE MANY DIFFERENCES Inside and out
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2019
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Shimano Tranx 200 or Curado K What are the differences?
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This was a very interesting tear down. I went in thinking it was a Curado K with a bigger handle and paint job...with a few rubber seals....But after the tear down when I was able to take into account all the slight changes did I see the entire picture. Interesting reel for sure. As far as I can tell...It actually is a more robust and rugged Curado K.
I'm just excited to see you back at it! I hope everything is well and thanks for the vid because I've been looking at both of these reels!
Let’s get down to brass tacks... if you could only buy one, which would it be?
@@thewarpsyrhead For me and my fishing....Curado K. For my inshore and heavy applications I need capacity so I lean to the 300/400/500 sized baitcasters. I don't target smaller inshore tablefare like fluke and seabass which is common in the NE. And a prime fit for the tranx 200. IIf I was pulling in 5lbs of salad for every lb of bass I think I'd go tranx
@@TackleAdvisors so correct me if I'm wrong but theoretically the Tranx 200 would be a slightly better heavy cover , slop frog , and maybe a little punching reel ?
@@OsamaBinDarrel yeah by the looks of it. But time will tell. But was the curado K not up to the task... That's kinda why I had the initial impressions I did
I watched this video and commented a year ago. After a year of using this Tranx 200 in salt water I wanted to comment again for anyone else watching. Ive been using this reel in SW and FW for the past year. I tripped and fell into the SW after stepping into a hole in a sand bar and dunked it fully submerged. I continued to use it for the rest of the day and didn't rinse it until I got home. I never took it apart to this day and there is no corrosion or rough retrieve at all and the Tranx still runs like a new reel. I have not had any issues with the plastic worm gear either. I run #30 suffix 832 coastal cammo braid on it and its great line so far.
Finally! Some good content on UA-cam. Been waiting long for this one!
so..who else tought the reels were edited background picture before mr.tackle advisor grab it? 😅
I’ve been waiting for this tear down.. thank you so much for the time. You are right about the gears both are different. 👍🏼
Another amazing video been waiting on this one
My buddy fishes his Curado k in the salt from time to time and after I had taken apart his reel for maintenance the two bearings that were seized in the reel was the pinion support closest to the spool and the bearing where the handle shaft goes into the frame. Pretty neat to see that Shimano knows these are the most susceptible bearings in the reel.
Amazing video as usual
Awesome comparison man! Your attention to detail is excellent! Love seeing the internals and how you discuss what they will actually do for folks. Not sure how you don't have 100K subs already. Do you think that thicker spool shaft will make a big difference?
Thanks homie, appreciate it! I think that thicker spool shaft will impact the pinion and offer more support which can't hurt.
@@TackleAdvisors that makes sense to me. Thanks for the reply!
finally you're back dude. killer video as always
Thanks brotha! Feels good to be back
It's been long time, thanks for the new video :)
Very good editing as always man. Loved the gear and shaft overlay! Bet your ready for warmer days, did the snow get as heavy there as what they were showing up in Buffalo?
I own 4 Curado K's and have had no issues with them whatsoever.... also have a Tranx 400 that has been flawless . I'm sure this new Tranx 200 will be a great inshore reel .... Thanks for your great review ...
4 Curado K XG's and 0 issues. 4 different techniques was real happy. Well see how they hold up on season 2 great video.
Great reviews and in depth content as always. Much love. Could you consider a review of the 2020 curado K 300 and maybe compare it to the tranx. Thanks.
OMG! You are alive!! Glad to see a new video and a now I want get a Tranx, actually I will probably wait for to the new Scorpion MGL.
Alive and well. Took a step back once again to evaluate how sustainable this youtube thing is. Now it's 100hrs / week until july goin forward!!! How's everything in your neck of the woods?
Tackle Advisors everything is well. People are freaking out locally because we are getting some rainstorms that cooling things down to 55 degrees and they don’t know they are going to do. I have looking at the all the new reels that they introduced in Japan and trying to decide what I want to get.
Nice review! I was trying to decide between these two reels for my inshore and inlet fishing. I think I'm going to get the Tranx. I just subbed to your channel and will check here for more great content.
I would like to thank you for thus video because I learned a lot both Reels which I just purchased both Reels and I ❤️ them both please keep up the great work
I always enjoy your videos
Great Video! Glad I found your channel. Thank you for doing these!
Would you recommend one if these over the other for a frog setup? Not for super heavy cover for me personally, I would say moderate.
Or maybe something else entirely?
Thanks!
Finally some good content 👍
I am really liking my new TranX 200 and 300! I have been using Citica 200I and the bearings do not like the salt big bummer cause I like the reels but the TranX is my go to now!
Thanks for another excellent vid. I was under the impression that the Tranx was a Curado with core protect. Interesting (and heartening) to note the design differences. I love all my Curados but I got the Tranx purely for it's salt water resistance.
Btw... I have no idea how you managed to do the bearing removal without a lot of swearing... That looked hectic.
That impeccable lighting situation though.
I have caught numerous pike over 40" on the Curado K and not a single problem with the worm gear.
Another top notch review. Shimano advertises the Tranx 200/150 as an "enhanced durability" for "lighter inshore presentations". Not sure where the thought that it is for larger fish than the 200K series came from. I see it as a great alternative to putting the 200/150 Curado's in the saltwater. I personally like the option to keep my freshwater reels strictly freshwater and still have the option to use a low profile casting reel.
Hands down: wich one do you like more in ALL OVER performance? I own tranx 300 and curado 200k but looking on the 200 tranx for 2-3 ounce pike baits. Thank you.
Awesome video as alaways
Is it possible to just use a 8x12x3.5mm bushing in place of a pinion bearing to avoid corrosion issues there? If so, any idea where to get some?
Fun reel to fish. Have caught a few hundred Spanish Mackerel and a bunch of small kings and it's more powerful than it looks. I still think the 300 high speed is the best Tranx but they're all great. The 500 will truly change your view on fishing it's awesome.
I just bought a tranx 200. Or ordered 1. Really got it for the non micro tooth gear's. Will see how it performs.
I think the curado k is so nice. It's amazing. I use it now for frogging and swim baits and heavy pitching but you know what.... I think I might just have to get the freaking tranx. I feel like the tranx could be one hell of a swim bait frogging rod and lighten the load on the curado.
What kind of reel cleaning regime would you recommend if one regularly wadefishes in salt water?
I think I would still go with the tranx just mainly because all I do is saltwater fishing
I have Curado K and use it inshore and can now from this video see that the changes between it and Tranx are immediate improvements from the Curado for saltwater use. To keep it useable, my Curado has to be torn down after each fishing trip and both of the bearings that supports the pinion under the spool tension as well as on the spool side have to be cleaned or it will seize the pinion and lock up. By seeing that Shimano put bushings there on the Tranx tells me that they are purposely designing this for saltwater use based on the actual failures of Curado users in saltwater. The Shimano sales rep at the fishing show originally sold me on the Curado K that it was also saltwater ready and at that price point was indeed very hard to beat. It casts like a dream, good smooth drag, etc. However I've since then not seen any further endorsements by Shimano that this reel is saltwater ready which it clearly is not. My Curado has now been repaired too many times and will go into backup duty only. Curado is a 100% freshwater reel only, and I would also recommend cleanings even in fresh because of that tight pinion fit in two bearings.
Have you by chance also done a comparison with Daiwa Coastal SV TW? That is the reel I'd like to see the Tranx compared to.
Thanks for this very informative video.
Are you planning on doing an Exist LT vs Stella FJ video?
Yes had to replace my Pawl on my worm gear after one year ...
Regarding your comment @ 26:48 about bringing the Tranx peacock fishing over the curado. Although I don't have first hand experience, yet, I can provide a report from a guide that books 2 or 3 trips annually to Brazil that hosts trips for about 10 clients at a time. He consulted with me on the Curado K and asked my thoughts were on bringing it to the Amazon for big pea's, and my initial consensus was the same as yours. The additional pinion support in theory should help it hold up better to chucking around those big wooden choppers and supporting the strain of locking down the drag to prevent a 20 pound peacock from breaking you off. Well after the first trip, all of his curado's were worn out beyond just needing to replacing a few parts. He replaced them with Tranx, and 6 trips later they are still going strong. Why this is, I have no idea. You would probably be one of the few people with the knowledge of these reels to have the ability to inspect them after amazon usage and come up with a conclusion.
Every time I see one of Your video I want to know how Your table is made... Is it plexiglass with a light from below?
LOVE your videos! do you have any plans on inspecting the new Abu garcia Beast? Hugs from sweden
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Irrespective of plastic, the only trouble I've had was that the line doesn't lay evenly. It seems to pile more up on the left, even though the arbor knot is on the right. Buggy. How to fix?? It's brand new. Curado DC.
How do the tranx stack up to 13 concept z3? Getting that or the tranx 300. Shimano is great company established so wondering what you think.
Just ordered the new tranx 200 hope I like it this was a tough choice between these 2 reels
How did you like it?
I was really looking into the Shimano tranx 201 or the curado DC 151 both would have different applications of course just not sure which is really worth it?
I own both. I bought the Tranx 200 as a smaller swimbait reel. Looking back i guess i did just buy a Curado K with a different paint job. I only fish freshwater so I really didn’t even care about saltwater benefits if any. I guess next time I’ll just grab another Curado K haha. Definitely not disappointed in the Tranx. Like every other Shimano reel it’s a damn good reel. But i agree with you 100% I think it was basically a Curado K that was a little more resilient to the salt water of a weekend angler. Luckily i stick to freshwater only. Still happy to have both in my fleet. Sometimes it’s nice to look at a silver reel i guess 🤷♂️ aka the “Porsche.”
Hey, a quick shortcut to find the schematics on the shimano website is to use your browser search function. If you know the model number, press ctrl+f and type it into the box that appears (or copy/paste it). Not perfect as a solution, but it's a hotfix till they mend it.
Problem on their page is that there are 110 tabs to bring up to then ctrl f. Unfortunately
Tackle advisor, did they make the brake adjustment wheel stick out past the frame and put the numbers on the bottom, like the mentanium? I hate on the Curado the numbers are on the side and with the wheel being so far into the frame you can hardly see the numbers or get your finger on the wheel to turn it.
There’s a set of pliers made by Boca Bearings that is very useful for removing the pin on the spool shaft and can also be used for the pin on the main shaft of some of the spinning reels, but then you probably already have one 😊 Makes life a little easier for reel tech’s
I have one... It's decent... The slop in the plier Jaws allows the pin to slip off under pressure slamming shut in the shaft... And reinstalling the pin and keeping it even is a little iffy.... I milled it out and use it on big reels in some instances... Ernie from bearing bad sent me a bunch of similar tools to this and they're awesome..
What's the best way to remove the spool pin? I have the Hedgehog tool but the pin is too low. I don't want to get caught up in the same situation as you and get stuck
Any improvement (stainless steel or brass would be great) to the pinon yoke support is highly welcomed. That is definitly an issue on the Curado in coorosive environments.
hey dude, quick Q: do you think the Tranx 200 can handle tossing & crankin' 1-3oz. lures for big freshwater fish??
I’m looking for a reel to throw topwater and some medium swimbaits. Between the Tranx 200, tatula 200, or curado k what do you recommend? It will be on a 7ft heavy rod……also won’t be using in saltwater
Hi my tranx 200 reel is making alot of noise when turning the handle what would be the problem I tried oiling it up but no luck..
Dear, author! If I plan to use a line (braid) of 65 lb, what size of the Tranx is more suitable for my goals - 300 or 400? European Catfish fishing on lures
300 would do great.
@Tackle Advisors What brand screwdrivers r those? Have u had any problems with the Phillip's head stripping on them?
I mainly use pozidrive not Phillips. And I'm on the same screw drivers that I was using 2 years ago or 100 reels ago. And they still grip insanely well. I use wera tools size 0 and 1. And an 00 wera Philips. And hollow ground bladed /flat heads are a must. I'm not picky about wrenches. Just a standard metric set
No level wind shaft seal on the Tranx 200 - so what do you think I've been sealing up my Curado K's level winds with 😅
Also the MM gears in the CU K are known not to be the full size MM gears, like semi MM. So the Tranx 200 is more of conventional cut gears.
Other than a few certain parts changed out I don't see how the Tranx is going to be "stronger" per se, but if you changed out all those bushes to bearings it'll be a much more in tolerance reel.
Also the hood top plastic piece that covers the frame is a non replacement part - unlike the CU K.
Hey Brotha! I saw your post on that!....I'll take another look at the hood. While it may be listed as a replacement part on the curado k. It wasn't something that wanted to go back together on the curado DC which I'm cutting into pieces :) I think the gear cut was a result of tolerances offered by bushing compared to bearings. I've seen enough failed handle shaft bearings to appreciate the bushing placed there. The new z3 has a metal bushing there which I wish they did on the z3
In regards to the gear differences and MM differences.....It's pretty silly. That they cut so many different gear patterns......I still can't feel any differences between them. And I've fished all of em. I always fall back to if the steez can do it with non MM gears....what benefit does it serve other than not many places are capable of cutting gears as such (found that out from a USA manufacturer.)
I want get Tranx 301 next 😎
can you make bait casting for fitness for lower prices
Recently picked up a Curado K 201. The TranX 201 was very tempting, but I ultimately opted for the Curado because I wanted the 6.2:1 ratio, the TranX was just too fast for my preferences.
Slow your retrieve down... gotta trust the system
I know you can do that, but the faster gears lose leverage and they also don’t match-up with my other reels. I prefer to keep all retrieve speeds as close as possible, 25” to 27” per turn, because it makes it easier to use different setups. Less to learn, less to have to change. Muscle memory and repetition.
Watching at school right now
Do your homework or you'll be fishing hand me down kastking when your 30
Are the pinion bushing on tranx 200 same size like the curado K pinion bearing support?
Is the worm gear still plastic on the tranx? And curados cam clutch retainer is terrible for salter it degrades quickly hopefully the tranx will do better
I just bought a used tranx 200 and the drag is very loose when at max tightness. I opened it up and everything looked fine on the drag. Anyone have any ideas what might be wrong?
Because I haven't seen your vids about removing the pin from reels having internal-to-the-spool ball bearings I cannot figure how you removed the one from the Tranx. Did you attempt to cut off one side than pull out the other side? If so, I believe there are devices for sale that will push the pin out. If that is not so, I made a fixture so that I could push the pin from the original Citicas so that I could replaced the plastic bearings and replace them with ceramic bearings. Trouble was, it appeared to me that doing so had no beneficial effect. If you would like to see my fixture, I will help you.
I have a few spool pin pullers. I used the boca on this one which failed (had to cut it off the spool using a Dremel. I have a boca and a hand made custom for some spec reel applications. Trinidad and tranx 500 sized. I've had hedgehogs fail twice now
i don know what to say man...how did he know we need this video...
Hello Tackle Advisors or fellow anglers" my question is what tools I need to work on Shimano gear (The Side plate screws) I have a Tranx 400 and the side plate screws are frozen and I don't want to strip them! Does this style of screw heads have a name & what type or size of screwdriver works well on them?
Hi got my new tramx 201 and was suprised when tightened the spooltension the spool had a play up and down. So got the spool out removed the bearing at the spool tension and had to realise the axle was only about 4.5mm and was loose in the bearing!! Cant be a manufacturing error since all these parts are machine forged or??? Can u drop ur email?
I'm setting up a swim Bay rod for large mouth and musky/ Pike and I was wondering what real I should buy as far it's a made to entry level budget reel. I'm either getting a dobyns or st. Croix jojo musky 8' or 7'9 fury sb
Get a Calcutta 400
After talking to a lot of offshore fisherman I choose a Lexa with a curdo k as a backup reel
Use the dremel and cut a notch in the plier jaw and you can use it to get the pin out.
How does the Shimano Grappler compare to the tranx 200? Idk if you have ever seen or held one in person.
I've only seen pics. I don't want to assume anything. I know they had a 300 which looked to be slotted under the tranx 300. (looked at the schematics awhile back and it looked it there too)
The drag washer under the gear Tranx a bit better , but can’t feel any different can’t feel 0.5kg more
Curado K hates saltwater the pinon and pinion bearing rusts like crazy and locks up!!! Really liking my TranX200 I have two and no saltwater problems yet real smooth casts great good power for the swimbait Striper fishing I do.
I had same experience with 2 curados didn't last 2 months in Salt never dunked but turned to rust buckets.just curious if your tranxs are still holding up.
I used the curators for salt water striper fishing. They just don’t handle the job. The two tranxs I got are clearly for saltwater. No issues so far and stronger reel for the job.
I like the polymer x-ship bushing instead of ball bearing. They look like they’re the same material as the main shaft support bushing on the talicas. That’s funny that you had problems with that spool shaft pin. I’ve been through 4 of those tools replacing bearings! Lol! I called shimano to try to buy one from them but they wouldn’t sell one........Damn it! Has anyone found a pin pusher that will fit a tranx 500 that doesn’t need modifications? TIA
I use the boca but modified it for the tranx 500 so I feel your pain
Which reel to you recommend for pier fishing for flounder, red fish, trout and etc?
Interesting question.. based on the construction and all the features on the tranx thats the best reel for tjat kind of fishing and of course you can easy fight a tarpon jack crevalle or a good permit and big snook on it 200 and 300 in a HG CAN BE THE BEST DEAL
Is the tranx 200 handle bar the same length as the tranx 400 handle bar?
Hi! Got a question about this Rubber and its coating: When I open the reel once I saw a little white spot in the rubber/seal thing, which I thought was oil or dirt. I checkt it and rubbend a bit of the coating away, didnt know what it was. Do you think it will effect the reel, escpecially the saltwater protection a lot if some coating ist missing? Ps: gonna use it 95% of the time in freshwater only. Thank you !
Nah... It just helps shed h20... Not block it... There was a debate when the 300 came out and shimano chimed in... You're good
As a bass fisherman, I was hoping this was going to be offered in a 5 ratio. I could see a place for that with 10XDs and such. But as it stands I don't see any benefit to this for bass fishing.
What exactly was the problem removing the pin from the spool? I have no idea what the blue thing was. Finally you removed the pin with a pliers?
The blue thing was the spool pin remover after hacking it apart to get the tools "pusher" freed. The pusher.. Pushes by being threaded against the pin. In this case the handle snapped off inside
I absolutely love my new tranxs 201 and I'm gonna use it to fish for Benito and yellowtail.
A Tranx 201 for yellowtail? Come on, man. What size yellowtails are we talking?
@@funkingitup1805 football size
Mr. advisor, do you have a video on servicing the worm gear in a Shimano spinner? I’m dying.
Thanks,
Loyal Watched
Hey man which one?
The fuid drive oscillation i'd say.
Thoughts on certate LT?
u giving me hardtime choosing tranx 201 or curado k....i want to use it for light jigging...30g to 120g jig...casting 50g crankbait and popper.....pe2-3 line....10 to 40 nautical mile from shore..or oilrig....30 to 60 meter deep...in small chartered longboat......i need definite answer....tqvm
I think the simplicity of the tranx will better suit your needs.
I was worried about the plastic worm gear on my 200k. I own cheaper reels with metallic ones (aluminum?) I’ve got some good miles on my k and no issues with it what so ever. 👍
I was worried too when i first saw the plastic worm gears as i am a Shimano reel tech, but they don’t fare too badly in the long run. I’ve seem metal shaft worm gears wear out faster than these.
@@owenbosen4254 year later still use the reel a lot, still no issues.
This video is more exciting than the super bowl I’m watching in the background...
sir ，can i ask tranx 201 drive shaft same with curado k？
When you mentioned how this reel isn’t ideal for maximum distance casting, are you saying the Curado is a better caster? Although there is a spool weight difference, are the changes significant?
Also, when comparing the Curado K’s XShip support bearing to the Tranx200’s “increased size spool shaft” does it balance things (longevity and durability) out in terms of the life of the gears?
Just curious before I make a purchase.
It's just not an extreme distance long range bomber......Not sure why to be honest. (I did a full casting distance test not sure if you saw that with this reel)
Not sure what your asking about the balance........Go at it like this.... Tranx for swimbaits, winching, and salt. Curado for about everything else you'd want a large low profile all around baitcaster....I for one like the SLX DC over the curado k and curado dc (i have a curado dc and scorpion mgl......collecting dust.) I can dump an slx dc no effort with a biffle head and keitech 3.8... ua-cam.com/video/32Uv8y-Vg90/v-deo.html (not sure if you can view it...i put it out to paying channel members last week)
Tackle Advisors ahhh I see... how would you say the Tranx makes up for the loss of the XShip bearing on the Curado? Is it just the enlarged spool shaft? Or is it a bushing sitting in the place of where a x ship bearing would sit?
@@regisvang7384 I'd have to re watch to remember exactly... Can't recall exactly off hand what the exact difference is. I think part of the benefits were support without corrosion
Ok thanks
So what's the sweet spot on the tranx 200? Lure weight
So upgrade the drag and the curado k would be just as good/better than a tranx for Swimbaits?
The K will handle them just fine the way it is.
For 1.5-3 ounce Alabama rigs, would y’all go with a 300 or 200 Tranx?
I had the 400 paired with the cumara arig rod and it performed great. 400 is the same as the 300 with a tad extra width. The revo beast 40 that just came out I've had the opportunity to put toss around with the terminator a rig and I really dig the externally adjustable brake for what it's worth.
Is curado dc worm gear plastic too?
They do seem to be stronger in Australia. Seen shit they make being used down there on the youtube that I'd never heard of here in the states. Like the tatulion. And some spinning gear. Like bait junky pkastucs and stuff.
Cud you pls tear down penn squall and phanthom low profile reels. Thy claim its saltwater. ? Released very recently.
The trans 200 seems to be more of a Crankbait swim bait real with the longer handle and design
I hope you take a look at the new Shimano Vanquish 2019 soon thanks for the videos 👍
If there is a reel that they need to bring here it's the vanquish. Screw the exsence. This one is the one
Commenting late I know but in the Tranx Shimano has clearly addressed all the common failure points of the Curado when used in saltwater. Micro gearing sounds great until you start talking saltwater ingress and big fish and then it degrades spectacularly. The placement of that large spool bearing is important, not only is it for the spool but it's also right next to the engagement point of the pinion so realistically the bush probably doesn't do much work anyway. The pinion support posts are the same design as the original Curado and the Calcutta and I have never seen one fail whereas I have seen plenty of failures on the pot metal design in the Curado K.
Good 👍
Excuse me if I’m wrong but are you Alan Tani?
Hey Brendan, I'm neither of the Alans (Tani/ Hawk) but both are spectacular gents!
what are your thoughts on Curado 70 vs Curado k ?
Size, the 70 only holds 85yrds of 12lb and the K holds 110 of 14lb.
The Shimano Tranx 200,.What about FOR Flipping & Pitching & PUNCHING?!
Very good for that.. Anything where you fish a heavy drag.. And don't need max distance
@@TackleAdvisors UPDATE i'm thinking about Buying this one instead Whatcha Think.Shimano Chronarch MGL ?
Help for my Tranx 200...I get a high pitch grinding sound when I engage the reel for half a turn after a cast. Like its not completely engaged for half a turn of my reel handle. Thank you
For starters check the spool tensioner.. Make sure it's no wrenched down and the side plate is on properly.. Loosen spool tension until there is side to side spool drift... Then check side plate.. Then see if fixed... Next inspect the spool pin (remove spool) and make sure it's not damaged. Also make sure there isn't any debris on the shaft or around the pin. With the spool out engage and disengage the reel (press thumbar /turn handle) make sure the pinion is moving inwards and outwards. That is what grabs the spool pin. If it's sticking what you describe will occur... Broken yoke springs or clogged or corroded pinion yoke supports (posts that the pinion support /lifter /yoke ride up and down on) could cause that as well.
@@TackleAdvisors The pin on the spool looks slightly shorter on one end. Trying to send a pic, havent been successful. The pinion looks ok, but not sure what I'm looking for really. I see 4 slots and the metal seems sloped at an angle between the slots. Trying to send a pic of that as well. Thank you
@@TackleAdvisors The pinion looks to be moving in an out ok
@@TackleAdvisors Is it possible to slide pin over?
It makes a sound like a zipper. Like its taking a little time to engage. Going to use it for frogging, cud see a problem setting the hook quickly on the end of a cast with braid. Is it damaging anything with that slipping action?
Believe I will just take it back to BP and get a Diawa