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They were so full of hate, they could only think one thing, win at all costs. Those poor kids. One thing is for sure, as much as foster care scares me, they have got to be better off without those toxic, disgusting people in their lives.
I think this was about support. But honestly, Christine should have just gone into hiding with those kids. Not victim blaming, I just wish someone could have protected her.
@@AC-ze1nh that's what I was going to say. I'm positive that's what Mike said, that it was a cold support hearing. She probably would've been better off to have moved away, changed her name, and just done without the child support. He likely would've lost all custody and visitation rights after the kidnapping.
Looked it up, it was a hearing about child support as David wanted it reduced. David had lost all parental rights at this point. He and his family were ordered to stay away from Christine and the three girls. What I find weird is that he was paying child support when he had lost parental rights, which seems odd, but nothing about this case was normal.
Dear bella: This is what happens when you marry someone before thoroughly checking out their background. This Matusiewicz family was obviously CRAZY long before Christine married into it. This type of profound mental illness doesn't just appear overnight, or when a divorce happens. These days you can do a complete online background search on ANYONE for as little as $30. Had Christine bothered to check out this family and seriously consider what she discovered, I doubt that she would've married into it. We live in an Anonymous Society where we only personally know a small fraction of all the people who we encounter each day. Years as a True Crime fan have sadly shown me that only a FOOL would let a stranger into their life either for romance or business before thoroughly investigating their background first. That may sound like paranoid thinking because it is, in fact, paranoid thinking. But being a little paranoid is a survival strategy in an Anonymous Society where strangers can enter your personal life at any time.
The prosecutor at the end explained it so well. She was suffocated by her ex-in-laws. She fought for her children and in return she was murdered by these psychopaths. Such a sad case. It’s heartbreaking for the children because now they have no mother or father.
And this woman put all her grandchildren's full names online saying they had s** with their mother. She did that! And it's still online! She also put Christine's daughter from another marriage online and of course claimed that at 8 that little girl was "torturing" her grandchildren. She is so sick but I've known other people online and seen other things online sadly equally as sick. 1% of the population being psychopaths is still a lot of people given world population now.
Honestly...most of them only care about the $$$ and won’t hesitate to have you detained in a hospital ward akin to a jail if you express the tiniest inkling of suicidal thoughts, further traumatizing you.
Are you kidding, of course they can when there’s an agenda. Lying is easy, it’s the level of commitment behind the lie that makes some people capable of “anything” when it comes to winning what they want and it doesn’t matter who they destroy in the process.
If at any time in their lives her daughters watch this video: you deserved better, your mom is proud of you, don't let this break you because your mom wants you to live happy lives
Amen🙏🙌 I do pray they know and go on to heal and have happy lives as best they can, cannot imagine what brainwashing they went through and emotional trauma , May God wrap his loving arms around them and guide them❤
The forgotten victim in this is the eldest sister from Christine's former marriage. She has lost her mother and her sisters and had lived in that horrendous escalating tension. Peace with all the innocent.
That's not why she does it. It's for the drama and attention. I knew a toxic narcissist who wrote agonizing speeches and forced everyone to listen to them.
What’s sad is the police really don’t get that involved with domestic abuse or custody issues unless it’s kidnapping sometimes….and physical violence :/ our American justice and custody system is so broken…
@@philiptucker7590 It's insane how often warning signs are missed or overlooked and something awful happens to the innocent children involved. I saw "The Story of Jennifer & Sarah Hart" the other day. A concerned neighbor called police extremely worried about the welfare of the children, saying they were all in serious danger. Nothing was done and sadly, the couple drove off a cliff with all 6 children killing everyone.
The saddest part of this is the fate of those kids. Foster Care is no joke. It can sometimes be worse than abandonment. I hope those girls make out well.
I am at a loss for words. These poor kids. I hope their foster family is great to them, and helps them heal. My parents took in foster kids. As the years went on, more and more of them came out of the woodwork to track my parents down and thank them. Forty-two kids passed through my mom and dad's house, some as short as a couple of weeks, some as much as several years. Some of the kids had such traumas heaped on their small shoulders, and my parents helped those kids. I only hope these kids were as lucky, and can experience some healing.
Those poor kids. They have to live with the fact that their mother is murdered, their grandmother is insane and so is their aunt. I hope these kids finally get to live in safety from this group of monsters.
That grandmother is insane, pure and simple. She was the source of all of the misery that followed. Taking the children to the heart of drug cartel country to "protect" them was just the icing on the crazy cake.
@@handsome_man69 They are selling land they think is paradise. No cell phone tower EFM pollution. They say bee colony health is severely damaged by cell phone towers.
@@joanbowden3448 lol jeez.. welp, get that bread hunny lol just plz don’t go all nutty like this crazy psycho ex-mother in law did here lol that kinda crazy is just Scary!
this is one of the most infuriating episodes i've seen. christine should have had sole custody - especially after the children were abducted. and now the dear ones are in foster care. heartbreaking.
The amount of stories I've heard of grandmother's feeling entitled to their grandchildren and going to insane lengths to have custody of them is ridiculous. The fact that this woman was even able to think of such disgusting lies about the kids their mom.. Wtf
The fact that this poor woman would have her ex KIDNAP HER CHILDREN TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY, which he served jail time for, and STILL had to fight for full custody, is not a good vote for the state of American family law..
Best to keep the courts and family services out of your life if at all possible. It’s just not worth the risk. It’s kind of like going to the mob for help with a problem. Yeah, they have the power and resources to help you in some cases, but can you trust them?
@@BrandonToy yes they have power and resources to help you or work against you, i've had first had and know others who had dealings with them and it's never been a good outcome. Definitely agree if you can keep them out it's the best thing you can do, they should only be involved if everything else fails the children
men get custody when they ask for it. 60% of the time they get full custody. The only reason there is a false idea that women get custody more than men is because men rarely ask for custody.
The system failed another woman. The second they got those kids back after the kidnapping they should have terminated rights and put a restraining order on the whole family. There was no reason they should've been even near enough to each other for this to happen. Those poor children.
Based on the way the grandmother was talking about the David wanting to hear any information on them he could it does sound like their rights were terminated. or at the very least they weren't allowed to see the kids. The reason the ex wife had any contact with the family was for child support, which was of course her right
@@Velothi it failed the mother there by failing the children i though that was implied. I mean really it failed a whole family of people if you want to split hairs.
I thought the same: that after the kidnapping, they should've been out of the picture entirely. Taking those little girls out of the country to live in a trailer for 18 months; telling them their mother had killed herself?! That should've been enough right there; smdh. 🤬🤮😪💔
I want to know how the father was found "losing touch with reality" in a psychological evaluation and STILL got joint custody??? And majority custody at that. HOW 🤔
I’m also curious about him getting the kids during the week. Surely there’s more to that story. Makes you wonder if things would have turned out differently if he hadn’t received majority custody. Does anybody know why he did? Could sue not financially support them?
That’s exactly what i was thinking… Had the authorities actually done their jobs, this entire tragedy could have been prevented. What bothers me more than anything is how despite it being noted that he was “loosing touch with reality” a judge still awarded him joint custody of his very real children.
Beggars belief!! They were irrationally angry towards Chrsitine even though thenson had main custody of the kids, they would still have been as nutty and psychopathic if Christine had full custody and I think would have come straight for her, poor woman she needed to be as far away as possible from the lot of them but wouldn't have been allowed to escape due to the kids, so sad , evil monsters just set to destroy anyone on their path
I just read an update about Christine's daighters. Her oldest daughter, Katherine, is a beautiful and smart young woman who has a daughter herself. She bravely took the stand at the family's sentencing hearing and told the court that Christine was a wonderful mom who never hurt or abused any of her girls. She also told the court that she believed the family would never stop trying to take her sisters, by any means necessary, and asked the court to put them away for life for their protection. The 3 little girls were put into foster care and she has not had any contact with them whatsoever since the day of the shooting when they were taken. She doesn't even have updates about them. She hopes that they will be reunited once the girls are older. Absolutely heartbreaking. Edits: punctuation errors.
Thank you for the update. I believe those girls had a wonderful dedicated mother. She did what she could but she was hunted down by those 4 individuals. I truly hope all 4 girls come together & stay together away from those psychopaths
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Lenore, Thomas and David themselves, didn't commit incest. They were just that sick. Lenore got what she deserved and so did Thomas. The other two can die in prison like their mother did. I'm extremely sad that Christine's children are in foster care. I had hoped she had family that would take them in. Such a sad, sick story. Rip Christine
Came here to ask were they inbred or what, batshit crazy and I'm genuine , not been snarky or sarcastic. Horrible for Christine and 3 innocent children left behind
Those grandparents were insane and they really failed as grandparents and as humans in general. They escalated the situation when they should have been trying to talk their son down, talk some sense into him. They helped to ruin everyone's lives and then they both died. Everyone surviving still has to deal with the consequences though. Which is a lifetime in jail for their kids and a childhood in foster care for the grand kids.
I eventuality had to fast-forward through the part where those human pieces of garbage were making excuses for their deranged son/brother. We truly live in a post-fact world…
This case shares sinister undertones with the Rhoden family murders. It's surprising how long the murderers went without being arrested but they were all charged in the end.
I think those kids were being abused by the grandparents or the father. Think about all those homophonic religious leaders who screamed about gays being pedophiles, only to eventually be caught having sex with children? It’s projection. That’s what we have with this case
Exactly this was all about them being in complete control of children they had no right to! Nasty, evil people, hope the 2 left rot in jail for rest of their lives!
Can you imagine those girls being told twice that their mom wasnt alive anymore? I pray for those girls and hope they know how much their mom must've loved them. God bless them!
And society wonders where all the kids with behavioral problems come from. It will be a miracle if those kids don't develop deep psychological problems. Stupid Fckn Parents. Father and his family obviously the worst influence.
Wow. A mother's love. One hell of a fighter. I dont think I could tolerate what she did - and she was still fighting right up to the very end. That mother was incredibly strong to survive what they put her thru. It's so sad that she was so strong, the only thing left for them to do was to physically destroy her. May she rest in peace knowing her girls are safe and well. In the end, she protected her beautiful girls. I'm sure she's with them everyday. What a tragic story. I won't forget this one for a long time.
I don't understand why the courts even allow custody disputes in cases like this where it is obvious one parent isn't doing anything wrong and is harassed mercilessly. The courts should've allowed Christine 100% custody and to go into hiding.
The man had a million dollars in a trailer, and had a bunch of guns, and killes hinself to kill her. Honestly their was almost no way to protect her from that crazy family.
It may be obvious to you, but the courts don't know that from the start. Plus, after the kidnapping, this was not the problem anymore. She did not want to go into hiding. Hell, she lived a thousand miles away from them anyway.
Right? I don't understand the thought process of people like this. "I dont want my kid to be with their other parent, I want them to be 'safe'! So I'll just murder their other parent. Then I'll go to jail. Now the kid has no parents" good job. Morons. Haha.
Not to mention that because of their ridiculous behavior towards Christine that in reality they were the only people being abusers. I feel so bad for those poor girls having to live without their mom at such a young age. I how that their lives bring nothing but happiness from now on. RIP Christine
Imagine one of your friend secretly helping your abuser getting personal information about you so the abuse and bullying can continue... Nobody deserves a Cindy in their life.
christens oldest daughter worked for me at the Cecil county Boys and Girls club she was not given up by her mother willingly she had to live with family only after these crazy nut jobs took her mothers life …..it’s truly a sad sad situation my Hart broke for her when she would speak of her mother (Christen) it’s disturbing that some ppl can truly believe there own lies to the point that it makes you take the life of a mother of 4 girls An I have to say her oldest daughter turned out to be a very well rounded dependable young lady and a pleasure to work with
well people are stil religius in the 21st centory and they belive qanon ect ect aka people are stupid or on a major trip down a north african river btw i realy hope the kids are gona be ok breaks my hearth to se kids victimised in idiots ridiculus plans
Yes, if you have an update on those poor babies it would be greatly appreciated! I couldn’t imagine what they were going through and what they still, pretty much will always go through! I just hope this abhorrent tragedy has brought them all closer together and not far apart! God be with them 🙏🏼
As a Mediator who deals with child related matters every day this video made me incredibly sad and angry. The prosecutor James M. McCall summed up exactly what I was thinking and feeling. All Christine wanted was to live peacefully with her girls. 😔
How ironic is the fact that they did all of this on the false claims that she was abusing them, and BECAUSE of their actions, these girls are forced to be in the care of the system where chances are very high they'll become abused at some point. How horrific. These people....may they rot.
So the argument "we were just trying to protect the kids" falls apart given they never once told police about this supposed molestation before he kidnapped the kids. Also it gives no explanation for why he killed the friend who had nothing to do with anything. As if anyone would believe such flagrant lies.
He thought he was gonna get out of it with suicide, he sent them all to jail instead I do hope this becomes a deterrent to those planning murder-suicides
@@whade62000 I don't quite understand this take. From a law perspective they were directly involved with this man's abuse towards his ex. In most cases the family doesn't even know something is wrong until their son/daughter is gone... From the murderers perspective they killed themselves, they decided a long time before stepping into that court that he wasn't making it out, if your suicidal, there's no deterent left
@thatchapter I was born and raised in Wilmington Delaware and my family still lives there. They changed that entire front lobby area in the courthouse and how people come and go after that shooting. I was only a block away when this happened. I’ve never seen so many cops.
It's so crazy, you know you can't make this stuff up. Poor Christine and Beth. Hope the little girls are doing well. The son and his parents were truly off the charts insane.
@@StanleyKubick1 This happened in the USA, not Poland, Einstein. I don't think you're too smart if you don't even know the difference between Poland and Polish. Probably an ignorant American. Your type is everywhere in the USA.
@@aoithesuperstar2736 She was!! I was like, holy crap, woman! It's like those middle schoolers who are trying too hard during the school play. Good Lord.
@@trueCrimeGuruYes well I think any normal mom probably wants that! “Momma’s boy” is a term for a reason. As long as you don’t move to the jungle and play house with your son and no husband for months and months you’re fine 😆
I can even imagine viewing children as possessions. They didn't give a damn about those children. They were upset because they lost control over them. If they actually cared about the well being of those children they would respect and nurture a relationship between them and their mother not take their mother away from them. Now those poor girls have NOTHING.
@@damagecontrol7 Morans were a respected sept of the Uí Fiachrach dynasty in the western counties of Mayo and Sligo. But Moran is also the ironic way to spell moron.
Grandma was an absolute mental case. She seems to be the one pushing the delusions onto her son and anyone else who would give her their time. I really hope those kids are being able to heal. I'm at a loss for words.
I’m so glad they got life without parole. They can rot. They took that woman away from her babies forever, her family will miss her forever. And the woman who was just there for moral support, her family mourns her for forever as well. Cruelty at its worst.
That's kind of like " They fell out of the crazy tree and hit every branch on the way down." Some people use ugly instead of crazy, but I never heard it that way growing up. This family is absolutely delusional. They dreamed up, reinforced and cemented these whackadoo ideas in each other's minds. Believe it or not, I've met people like this before. The reason they can cry so easily, passionately defend themselves and act as if they're fighting for justice, is because they repeat the lies so many times that they begin to believe them. Because they WANT to believe them. It's INSANE. Sometimes, the only way that you can begin to root out if there was ever even truth to any of the words that come from their mouths, is by trying to wade through it. Better yet, when you meet people like this, turn and run fast!
This is the saddest case that I ever watched. I feel severely sorry for the girls, they're now orphans because of their families' obsession with their mom who didn't do anything wrong but protected them from her crazy in-laws.
The mother got exactly what she deserved - for trying to keep the children away from their father. More selfish single mothers should meet the same fate.
That is so insanely messed up.... They did all this to try to keep the kids from their mother and in the end the kids are left in foster care to grow up. Unbelievable..
@@DBpsychology i gave your channel a good listen & watched a few videos, but only thing i dont really like is the personal opinions on the cases. (1) i think fact based is better than what you think happened. (2) the overall quality can use a little improvment. I have subscribed and will continue to watch because i think you have the potential to be a way better crime channel. i know it take a while to get there but i will stick around a little longer. Glad i found you.
Get yourself a good lawyer and document everything. Do not meet either your ex or your in-laws alone in private--bring a witness and meet in a public space, like a parking lot. Make copies of anything and anything relevant and give them to your lawyer and to close friends/family just in case. Please stay safe, and good luck 💗
@@NachoAE360 there's no racism towards Black people anymore bc there are areas with majority Black populations but some white people are getting convicted for things they'd normally get off for by being white and that means...white people are oppressed now. something like that. IDK it's hard to interpret racist logic XD
How dare this old terrible woman talk about Christine even after they killed her. What a nightmare she is. And writing her thoughts down and sharing them like a damn Christmas story. She is certifiable
I love your videos and to come across this story is wild. I am pretty close to this situation as I am acquainted with the daughter of the victim Christine. I remember that day like it was yesterday. Such a huge tragedy. Her oldest daughter was left devastated as she lost her sisters and her mother. It was and still is heartbreaking.
Yeah I'm glad you noticed that too 🐱 Also I find it strange that the grandmother + Father kidnapped the kids the first time and then the grandfather murdered the mom and best friend
Without evidence what would you like them to do? Go around arresting people because they may hurt someone,they may be dangerous? Come on now this isn't a case to piss on law enforcement.
I know hindsight is 20/20, but the mother and daughters should have been given new names and relocated, sort of like the witness protection program. The grandparents and biological father were never going to leave her alone.
It didn't make sense at all... And majority custody!! What were the authorities thinking about?? I don't know, this is terribly sad. Authorities surely knew this could go wrong after that diagnosis to the father. Now, who knows where and how the girls are. The traffic of children exists and many people are involved. I usually watch these episodes and several have left me sad and disturbed, but this one has touched me the most. Poor babies :( No mother, no father, just part of a system that surely can't protect them. I want to cry....
The fact that she has to read a script is evidence enough. It's unreal how these kind of people cannot see how awful they are. They're insane and should be kept from children in general.
I actually looked into that same concern and according to some employees of children services if there are two children or more and their situation leading to ultimately being placed in foster care the agencies will typically keep them together especially since psychological damage is most likely present after having endured all of the trauma.
I volunteered as a GAL in Florida for a while. Policy favors keeping siblings together. Not sure if it’s the same in Delaware but I don’t see what alternative policy stance there would be.
That's was my first thought. It actually brought tears to my eyes. I really, really hope those little girls are in good hands. Such a horrible and sad past they had to endure.
Ohh that detective at the end saying this case “represented the best of what the justice system can do in the case of domestic violence” got my goat for sure. It’s not like the Dad kidnapped the kids and fled the Country for 18 months, then only receiving 3 years in jail. It’s not like there were titanic sized red flags and Christine/kids weren’t protected enough from the justice system.
Agreed. That pissed me allllll the way off, because the best the justice system could do was nail those arseholes after they'd already killed Christine. Fucken huzzah to the justice system! 😒😤
Sadly I have to agree. Far too many women are killed by domestic violence when the perpetrators should’ve been locked up years before. It seems like they only care once a person is dead
Or the fact that she got shot to death in a fucking court house lobby. Of all places you should be safe in a court of law. Texas has the most bizarre gun laws in the world - it’s insane to think about coming from a country that doesn’t allow guns.
@@viralityac It was prolly at the very entrance. Guns are not allowed in the court of law even in texas. It was prolly before the metal detector/dude with scanner. everyone is screened before you enter the courtroom, not the courthouse.
I was wondering about that also !!! How can you get custody after you kidnapped your kids and fled to another country with them.....doesn´t make any sense !!! Greetings from Iceland :)
There must be formal proceeding to remove custody, even if one/both of the parent(s) are convicted of a crime. See: Mitchelle Blair in court for custody of her _surviving_ children, after she'd killed two of her older kids and kept their bodies in a deep freezer at the home.
God, I hope those poor kids come out of this okay, including Christine's eldest. I genuinely teared up a few times at the thought of how awful it must have been (and continues to be) for them.
That grandma had clearly spent many hours writing her own script and reading it aloud to rehearse just the right tone, then read the script word for word. Normal people don’t do that. They don’t need to.
I watch a lot of your videos and tragedy abounds in each one. This one really touched me. All that misery over what was essentially a pride thing. How toxic the human spirit. Keep up the good work That.
@@gamiezion it depends which part of the state you’re in lol. Anywhere north of Middletown can be similar to a mini Liberty City at times, and anywhere south of Camden can be similar to Blaine County😂. The middle part of the state is pretty chill
The grandmother has a face that just makes you long to punch her. Funny how when she's telling her story, there's no emotion... Even when she's apparently crying there's no change in her voice, there's no tears. She hides her face because there is no tears...
In interrogations they can generally tell somebody's emotion and crying is fake when the person supposedly crying is still able to answer questions and form sentences easily/ clearly because the part of the brain that is activated when we're all choked up makes it very hard to do both at the same time. I'm not an expert and I oversimplified it, but yeah apparently that's the gist of it.
Hmmm, at 1:38 on the video Mike says the son (brother to David) died from "complications of leukemia". This lady, Lenore, talks out her ass though, so 🤷♀️ Edit: wait, she said "nephew" not "son". But anyway the lady is still...not in reality. And also a "c u next Tues".
@@audiobookschill5888 just yesterday biden tried to sell me MARIJUANA PILLS and straight up insterted them into my rectum himself while nancy pelosi held me down when i said NO to the maryjaanwqna and now im dead
back in the 80s and the 90s they would write you prescriptions fall all kinds of shit. But there are some stuff out there as far back as the 70s where they were doing dumb things like that. I bet she took that story and twisted it to fit in her narrative.
Apparently he had gone into the courthouse lobby with his father and walked around. He then left and pop stayed behind to do the deed and take one for the team. (I read court documents)
This lady really enjoys the sound of her own voice. She believes wholeheartedly that she sounds legitimate. She's not a good enough actor to pass the sniff test, let alone how her content presents itself. Unbelievable.
Such a sad ending with no winners. Considering how controlling and twisted this family is, I'm surprised there was no security at the courts. Christine was such a brave mother and fought to the end. May her soul rest in peace. I hope her children find a family that deserves to have them. One of the saddest cases I've seen.
Not uncommon behavior for a narcissistic mother, I have no doubt that the old bat manipulated him into doing that final act. I had one of those mothers too. Finally figured out the level of manipulation she was doing cost me every friendship elationship I ever had. Haven't talked to the witch for over 6 years now.
Thanks for watching! Videos will be a little less over the next few weeks as I go on vacation and recharge the batteries, back to normal though after. Thanks!
I hope you enjoy yourself Mike!! Much love from crazy Florida 😂❤️
Enjoy!
mike, go get some sun my boy
Have a good vacation stay safe.
Yeeee-hawww
I am SO angry at the grandmother. She let her grandbabies be without their parents. Disgusting.
Yup, the grandparents were genuinely disgusting human beings. Depressing stuff.
And she's a pervert to come up with all those nasty accusations of the mom.
Sad
@@truth4004 Yea when I was hearing that shit I was like......this old lady had to literally think of all this sick shit before writing it🤮
They were so full of hate, they could only think one thing, win at all costs. Those poor kids. One thing is for sure, as much as foster care scares me, they have got to be better off without those toxic, disgusting people in their lives.
Why was there even a custody battle if the father kidnapped the children??
Once again... good job Justice system.
Exactly what I was wondering too
I think this was about support. But honestly, Christine should have just gone into hiding with those kids. Not victim blaming, I just wish someone could have protected her.
@@AC-ze1nh that's what I was going to say. I'm positive that's what Mike said, that it was a cold support hearing. She probably would've been better off to have moved away, changed her name, and just done without the child support. He likely would've lost all custody and visitation rights after the kidnapping.
I think it was because of the abuse claims which were obviously false but I dont think they were sure back then.
Looked it up, it was a hearing about child support as David wanted it reduced. David had lost all parental rights at this point. He and his family were ordered to stay away from Christine and the three girls. What I find weird is that he was paying child support when he had lost parental rights, which seems odd, but nothing about this case was normal.
the fact that the grandma had those kinds of imaginations about the way christine assaulted her daughters is beyond disgusting.
Ah she died
Well don’t feel sorry for her now do I ?
Yea...fucking sickening!!
@@thefrybasket no disrespect but it sort of sounds like you actually fell for the grandma's innocent old lady act 😬
Dear bella: This is what happens when you marry someone before thoroughly checking out their background. This Matusiewicz family was obviously CRAZY long before Christine married into it. This type of profound mental illness doesn't just appear overnight, or when a divorce happens. These days you can do a complete online background search on ANYONE for as little as $30. Had Christine bothered to check out this family and seriously consider what she discovered, I doubt that she would've married into it. We live in an Anonymous Society where we only personally know a small fraction of all the people who we encounter each day. Years as a True Crime fan have sadly shown me that only a FOOL would let a stranger into their life either for romance or business before thoroughly investigating their background first. That may sound like paranoid thinking because it is, in fact, paranoid thinking. But being a little paranoid is a survival strategy in an Anonymous Society where strangers can enter your personal life at any time.
Yep. Typical. It happens over and over and over
The prosecutor at the end explained it so well. She was suffocated by her ex-in-laws. She fought for her children and in return she was murdered by these psychopaths. Such a sad case. It’s heartbreaking for the children because now they have no mother or father.
When being a failed caregiver goes wrong....
“My son’s ex-wife is abusing our children, so to keep them safe I’m just going to destroy their entire lives.” Great plan. A+.
also the whole kidnapping them to a completely different country
And this woman put all her grandchildren's full names online saying they had s** with their mother. She did that! And it's still online! She also put Christine's daughter from another marriage online and of course claimed that at 8 that little girl was "torturing" her grandchildren. She is so sick but I've known other people online and seen other things online sadly equally as sick. 1% of the population being psychopaths is still a lot of people given world population now.
Narcissism.
Not psychopathy.
@@inhisservice8862the two can exist co morbidly. As can narcissism and sociopathy,etc.
A malignant narcissist is a narcissist with ASPD traits.
@@inhisservice8862 it can be both.
Court appointed Psychiatrist " he's in danger of losing touch with reality, soooooo joint custody?"
Ikr
Exactly
Actually, he got majority custody. Go figure.
Reminds me of Josh Powell losing custody of his kids and on his first "supervised" visit murdered them.
Yea if they took em away
'I don't trust psychiatrists or psychologists.'
The two professionals this woman desperately needs.
That's what all schizophrenic people say
@@pinrod1 🤣LOL🤣
She has histrionic personality disorder. You can tell by her little reading at the end. The rest of the family was just sucked into her fairy stories
Honestly...most of them only care about the $$$ and won’t hesitate to have you detained in a hospital ward akin to a jail if you express the tiniest inkling of suicidal thoughts, further traumatizing you.
@@4bibimimi just looked that up, and boy does that explain some people I know and no longer interact with.
The grandmother's description of sexual abuse is weirdly detailed and not something a regular person could even stomach to make up
She’s definitely a sicko
And the child said that? In those details? Yeah right. She's so believable! Her little podcast or whatever sounds like people in a cult. So nuts
Are you kidding, of course they can when there’s an agenda. Lying is easy, it’s the level of commitment behind the lie that makes some people capable of “anything” when it comes to winning what they want and it doesn’t matter who they destroy in the process.
It’s was her fantasy
Let alone read aloud, ugh!
If at any time in their lives her daughters watch this video: you deserved better, your mom is proud of you, don't let this break you because your mom wants you to live happy lives
Amen!
Absolutely true.
Without a doubt!💛💚🧡
❤️
Amen🙏🙌 I do pray they know and go on to heal and have happy lives as best they can, cannot imagine what brainwashing they went through and emotional trauma , May God wrap his loving arms around them and guide them❤
The forgotten victim in this is the eldest sister from Christine's former marriage. She has lost her mother and her sisters and had lived in that horrendous escalating tension.
Peace with all the innocent.
Doesn't she still have her father at least?
No one talks about the other innocent victim - the friend
@@mochacholat Bingo! Sad she died and is just a side note.
@@iliveinyourwalls5193 that doesn't make her less of a victim!
Well wouldn't that child just be sent to her father. I hope these children aren't too separated and can be together again.
I love that she wrote scripts. She couldn't even remember her own lies.
That's not why she does it. It's for the drama and attention. I knew a toxic narcissist who wrote agonizing speeches and forced everyone to listen to them.
Her logic is flawless. Nobody would ever commit murder and miss out on a Ruben sandwich party.
Exactly! ESPECIALLY since her husband LOVES to eat! Someone must’ve brainwashed her son or something, without a doubt.
Dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say in my life. Now, maybe a Chicken Fried Steak dinner... that i could buy as an alibi.
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Ruben sandwiches are great!!
@@snakepliskin440 Not THAT great lol
This tragedy was preventable, David’s parental rights should’ve been terminated the second he took the girls to Nicaragua. Poor Christine!
Great idea, get to the shooting part even quicker... REALLY -_-
What’s sad is the police really don’t get that involved with domestic abuse or custody issues unless it’s kidnapping sometimes….and physical violence :/ our American justice and custody system is so broken…
Yes
@@philiptucker7590 It's insane how often warning signs are missed or overlooked and something awful happens to the innocent children involved. I saw "The Story of Jennifer & Sarah Hart" the other day. A concerned neighbor called police extremely worried about the welfare of the children, saying they were all in serious danger. Nothing was done and sadly, the couple drove off a cliff with all 6 children killing everyone.
Amen
The saddest part of this is the fate of those kids. Foster Care is no joke. It can sometimes be worse than abandonment. I hope those girls make out well.
They were abused by thus batshit crazy family far years. They need a stable, nurturing home and years of intensive therapy.
@@eshowoman Absolutely. I just hope they dont fall in the hands of the wrong people.
They are with Christine's family ❤
@@AnnieBoBannie421 source?
@@cm9231 Do your own research.
I am at a loss for words. These poor kids. I hope their foster family is great to them, and helps them heal.
My parents took in foster kids. As the years went on, more and more of them came out of the woodwork to track my parents down and thank them. Forty-two kids passed through my mom and dad's house, some as short as a couple of weeks, some as much as several years. Some of the kids had such traumas heaped on their small shoulders, and my parents helped those kids. I only hope these kids were as lucky, and can experience some healing.
Granny is absolutely off her gourd.
Wayyyy off the rocker.
Those scenes in front of the camera were hardcore cringe
Augusta Gein vibes
The kind of grandma that makes her famous casserole made with canned cat food.
Gangster Granny
One thing that's truly shocking is that Lenoir had 2 friends.
Crazy is as crazy does....
That one lady in her video seemed about as demented as she was
Lenore. As crazy as her.
exactly what i said! "she got friends?"
Birds 🐦 of a feather 🪶 fluck together. Sick facks
Those poor kids. They have to live with the fact that their mother is murdered, their grandmother is insane and so is their aunt. I hope these kids finally get to live in safety from this group of monsters.
sadly the oldest sister has no idea where her sisters are or even if they are together. my heart hurts for them everyday
@@joleemeyer they all didn't end up with moms family
Well said!
....And that their grandfather is a murderer.
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That grandmother is insane, pure and simple. She was the source of all of the misery that followed. Taking the children to the heart of drug cartel country to "protect" them was just the icing on the crazy cake.
Nicaragua is nice
Some of it is. Some isn't. Just like everywhere @@handsome_man69
@@handsome_man69 They are selling land they think is paradise. No cell phone tower EFM pollution. They say bee colony health is severely damaged by cell phone towers.
That’s the thing about crazy people… they don’t know they’re crazy.
Facts!
But I have paperwork from the government certifying my craziness & get this....they even pay me for being crazy!
Ain't THAT crazy?! 🤪🤪🤪
@@joanbowden3448 😮🤭🤭
Scary
@@joanbowden3448 lol jeez.. welp, get that bread hunny lol just plz don’t go all nutty like this crazy psycho ex-mother in law did here lol that kinda crazy is just Scary!
this is one of the most infuriating episodes i've seen. christine should have had sole custody - especially after the children were abducted. and now the dear ones are in foster care. heartbreaking.
She did, so there is that.
And ironically now at a higher risk of being abused. That vile old woman won't be seeing our Lord in heaven any time soon.
and with high likely to get abused physically and emotionally! grandmother's nightmare came true
She can’t even remember her lies without reading from a book filled with them 🤦♀️
IKR 😆
That’s what I was thinking. Crazy lady has to read her work, the story she wrote.
😂🤣😂😅
Exactly smh
In fairness documenting something as early as you can is better than relying solely on memory later on.
She's still full of shit though
The amount of stories I've heard of grandmother's feeling entitled to their grandchildren and going to insane lengths to have custody of them is ridiculous. The fact that this woman was even able to think of such disgusting lies about the kids their mom.. Wtf
I feel grateful my MIL was a schizophrenic woman that was just glad to be treated nicely and not talked down to by me.
Especially when there's 4 grandparents to 1 grand child. At best, you still have only as much claim as the other grandparents
Narcissistic personality disorders
My mother tried to manipulate me into signing my son over to her so she could get paid by welfare to take care of him
i wish i had come here 1st
for this story, he told it in less than half the time web of lies did & its more detailed 😂
These cases with murder over custody… They always just end with the poor babies being orphaned… Always so tragic…
It was murder over slights to their egos. Four narcissistic psychopaths in one family.
This is the result of years of unaddressed abuse and privilege
The fact that this poor woman would have her ex KIDNAP HER CHILDREN TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY, which he served jail time for, and STILL had to fight for full custody, is not a good vote for the state of American family law..
It's full of shady characters. The department of justice and child welfare.
Best to keep the courts and family services out of your life if at all possible. It’s just not worth the risk. It’s kind of like going to the mob for help with a problem. Yeah, they have the power and resources to help you in some cases, but can you trust them?
Ugly America is REAL.......
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THE WHITE PRIVILEGE CARD🤨
@@BrandonToy shit I'd trust the Mob before CYS.
@@BrandonToy yes they have power and resources to help you or work against you, i've had first had and know others who had dealings with them and it's never been a good outcome. Definitely agree if you can keep them out it's the best thing you can do, they should only be involved if everything else fails the children
I can see where Davy Boy inherited the “in danger of becoming out of touch with reality” gene from… Those poor kids…
Wait, David was at risk for losing touch with reality, yet the court granted him the most custody?!
DUH!!! WTF were they thinking?
I thought the same thing!!!
men get custody when they ask for it. 60% of the time they get full custody.
The only reason there is a false idea that women get custody more than men is because men rarely ask for custody.
See Nancy Schaefer’s videos to see what family court is really about.
@@DD-d6d3 Pretty sure that's not true but I agree the father should get custody more than they do.
The system failed another woman. The second they got those kids back after the kidnapping they should have terminated rights and put a restraining order on the whole family. There was no reason they should've been even near enough to each other for this to happen. Those poor children.
no, it failed the children..
Based on the way the grandmother was talking about the David wanting to hear any information on them he could it does sound like their rights were terminated. or at the very least they weren't allowed to see the kids. The reason the ex wife had any contact with the family was for child support, which was of course her right
@@Velothi it failed the mother there by failing the children i though that was implied. I mean really it failed a whole family of people if you want to split hairs.
I thought the same: that after the kidnapping, they should've been out of the picture entirely. Taking those little girls out of the country to live in a trailer for 18 months; telling them their mother had killed herself?! That should've been enough right there; smdh.
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I don't get why the children were put in foster case?. Did Christine have no family available who could take them?.
I want to know how the father was found "losing touch with reality" in a psychological evaluation and STILL got joint custody??? And majority custody at that. HOW 🤔
I’m also curious about him getting the kids during the week. Surely there’s more to that story. Makes you wonder if things would have turned out differently if he hadn’t received majority custody. Does anybody know why he did? Could sue not financially support them?
That’s exactly what i was thinking… Had the authorities actually done their jobs, this entire tragedy could have been prevented. What bothers me more than anything is how despite it being noted that he was “loosing touch with reality” a judge still awarded him joint custody of his very real children.
Exactly what I thought.....the courts and cps love when this shit happens
Beggars belief!! They were irrationally angry towards Chrsitine even though thenson had main custody of the kids, they would still have been as nutty and psychopathic if Christine had full custody and I think would have come straight for her, poor woman she needed to be as far away as possible from the lot of them but wouldn't have been allowed to escape due to the kids, so sad , evil monsters just set to destroy anyone on their path
Ikr
I just read an update about Christine's daighters. Her oldest daughter, Katherine, is a beautiful and smart young woman who has a daughter herself. She bravely took the stand at the family's sentencing hearing and told the court that Christine was a wonderful mom who never hurt or abused any of her girls. She also told the court that she believed the family would never stop trying to take her sisters, by any means necessary, and asked the court to put them away for life for their protection.
The 3 little girls were put into foster care and she has not had any contact with them whatsoever since the day of the shooting when they were taken. She doesn't even have updates about them. She hopes that they will be reunited once the girls are older.
Absolutely heartbreaking.
Edits: punctuation errors.
Thank you for the update. I believe those girls had a wonderful dedicated mother. She did what she could but she was hunted down by those 4 individuals. I truly hope all 4 girls come together & stay together away from those psychopaths
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Lenore, Thomas and David themselves, didn't commit incest. They were just that sick.
Lenore got what she deserved and so did Thomas. The other two can die in prison like their mother did.
I'm extremely sad that Christine's children are in foster care. I had hoped she had family that would take them in. Such a sad, sick story.
Rip Christine
Came here to ask were they inbred or what, batshit crazy and I'm genuine , not been snarky or sarcastic. Horrible for Christine and 3 innocent children left behind
This. This is what ACTUAL insanity looks like.
True . She created her own reality
Actuel EVIL
What??? Lenore is firmly grounded in reality. That's the only way she can believe her nephew's ADHD was treated with LSD. 😉
Way to go Matusiewicz family now the girls doesn't have a mom, dad, aunt, grandfather or grandmother. You really did them good!
Trash . She shouldn’t even be called a granny . Besides what did she think she was gonna do raise the 3 kids she looks like she’s a 10000
Those grandparents were insane and they really failed as grandparents and as humans in general. They escalated the situation when they should have been trying to talk their son down, talk some sense into him. They helped to ruin everyone's lives and then they both died. Everyone surviving still has to deal with the consequences though. Which is a lifetime in jail for their kids and a childhood in foster care for the grand kids.
@@lizelleswart6327 wahahahaha you go chica.
@@Mia-fd7ug he would probably feed the kids Ruben sandwiches with sauerkraut morning noon and night 😏
They only lost their mother. The grandparents and father were insane
I eventuality had to fast-forward through the part where those human pieces of garbage were making excuses for their deranged son/brother. We truly live in a post-fact world…
Same; it made me so fucking mad my ears started burning.
Thomas did this so his son would have custody. What sick people.
Grandmother is Grand manipulator. She belongs in jail for life. What a nightmare.
This case shares sinister undertones with the Rhoden family murders.
It's surprising how long the murderers went without being arrested but they were all charged in the end.
She dead.
She died 3 months after being jailed .. shame really
All of this could have been avoided by just, y'know, being normal people.
She's taking the big dirt nap.
It's amazing what two narcissistic sociopathic grandparents can do. It was NEVER about the kids.
Yep, it was always about the two asshole grandparents... I know a narcissist when I see one.
Exactly, it’s all about control.
I think those kids were being abused by the grandparents or the father. Think about all those homophonic religious leaders who screamed about gays being pedophiles, only to eventually be caught having sex with children? It’s projection. That’s what we have with this case
Exactly this was all about them being in complete control of children they had no right to!
Nasty, evil people, hope the 2 left rot in jail for rest of their lives!
this should have been a death penalty...those poor kids they lost everything
Can you imagine those girls being told twice that their mom wasnt alive anymore? I pray for those girls and hope they know how much their mom must've loved them. God bless them!
Jesus, I didn’t even think of that. Those poor kids!
There is no way they came out of this without severe mental health issues/PTSD. Extremely sad...
@@Andre-by4su And then...foster care.
Right? AND THEN FOSTER CARE?! that part broke my heart
And society wonders where all the kids with behavioral problems come from. It will be a miracle if those kids don't develop deep psychological problems. Stupid Fckn Parents. Father and his family obviously the worst influence.
Wow. A mother's love. One hell of a fighter.
I dont think I could tolerate what she did - and she was still fighting right up to the very end. That mother was incredibly strong to survive what they put her thru. It's so sad that she was so strong, the only thing left for them to do was to physically destroy her.
May she rest in peace knowing her girls are safe and well. In the end, she protected her beautiful girls. I'm sure she's with them everyday.
What a tragic story. I won't forget this one for a long time.
I don't understand why the courts even allow custody disputes in cases like this where it is obvious one parent isn't doing anything wrong and is harassed mercilessly. The courts should've allowed Christine 100% custody and to go into hiding.
The man had a million dollars in a trailer, and had a bunch of guns, and killes hinself to kill her. Honestly their was almost no way to protect her from that crazy family.
Exactly why I vanished with mine. Now amazing adults. Courts don't protect you. ❤️
It may be obvious to you, but the courts don't know that from the start. Plus, after the kidnapping, this was not the problem anymore. She did not want to go into hiding. Hell, she lived a thousand miles away from them anyway.
The irony of them “wanting to save their kids from an abuser” only to have those same kids end up in the foster care system. Oof.
Right? I don't understand the thought process of people like this.
"I dont want my kid to be with their other parent, I want them to be 'safe'! So I'll just murder their other parent. Then I'll go to jail. Now the kid has no parents" good job. Morons. Haha.
Not to mention that because of their ridiculous behavior towards Christine that in reality they were the only people being abusers. I feel so bad for those poor girls having to live without their mom at such a young age. I how that their lives bring nothing but happiness from now on. RIP Christine
@@hatake1990 Narcissistic logic. There are many books on the subject.
Grandma ran the whole show, all the abuse stemmed from her and rolled downhill.
Yes! I thought the same. She looks like a very manipulative old woman
Imagine one of your friend secretly helping your abuser getting personal information about you so the abuse and bullying can continue... Nobody deserves a Cindy in their life.
It's called being a flying monkey. Classic tool of a narcissist.
WHAT FRIEND?? MAY SHE NEVER HAVE A MOMENT OF PEACE FOR COLUDING WITH THESE MONSTERS.
Shxt is absolutely *I N S A N E !!*
That's called "Flying monkey". It's a term out of the narcissistic world (Narcissistic personality disorder).
You know it's gonna be good when the guy who killed 2 people and himself isn't even the craziest one.
Lol!
best comment
hahaha indeed!
Wow. That's too true.
christens oldest daughter worked for me at the Cecil county Boys and Girls club she was not given up by her mother willingly she had to live with family only after these crazy nut jobs took her mothers life …..it’s truly a sad sad situation my Hart broke for her when she would speak of her mother (Christen)
it’s disturbing that some ppl can truly believe there own lies to the point that it makes you take the life of a mother of 4 girls
An I have to say her oldest daughter turned out to be a very well rounded dependable young lady and a pleasure to work with
I’m so sorry her mother was murdered. 😢 It’s nice to hear she’s doing well.
What is she up to today?
well people are stil religius in the 21st centory and they belive qanon ect ect aka people are stupid or on a major trip down a north african river
btw i realy hope the kids are gona be ok breaks my hearth to se kids victimised in idiots ridiculus plans
Yes, if you have an update on those poor babies it would be greatly appreciated! I couldn’t imagine what they were going through and what they still, pretty much will always go through! I just hope this abhorrent tragedy has brought them all closer together and not far apart! God be with them 🙏🏼
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As a Mediator who deals with child related matters every day this video made me incredibly sad and angry. The prosecutor James M. McCall summed up exactly what I was thinking and feeling. All Christine wanted was to live peacefully with her girls. 😔
How ironic is the fact that they did all of this on the false claims that she was abusing them, and BECAUSE of their actions, these girls are forced to be in the care of the system where chances are very high they'll become abused at some point. How horrific. These people....may they rot.
Yeah all that and she left them without parents 🙄
those kids deserves so much better
That’s what happens when it’s never your kids fault cuz they’re perfect, fuckin sad sad and pathetic sad 🤦🏻♂️
these kinds of things happen not for the kids really. it's about winjing, pride and all that
@@KP-ol3tc 💯
So the argument "we were just trying to protect the kids" falls apart given they never once told police about this supposed molestation before he kidnapped the kids. Also it gives no explanation for why he killed the friend who had nothing to do with anything.
As if anyone would believe such flagrant lies.
"The father had to leave his job because of some sort of policy violation"
Oh, I'm sure that won't come up again later
LoL
It's a shame the dad didn't live to see his family locked up.
He thought he was gonna get out of it with suicide, he sent them all to jail instead
I do hope this becomes a deterrent to those planning murder-suicides
He probably had just given up living with all that crazy.
@@whade62000 I don't quite understand this take. From a law perspective they were directly involved with this man's abuse towards his ex. In most cases the family doesn't even know something is wrong until their son/daughter is gone...
From the murderers perspective they killed themselves, they decided a long time before stepping into that court that he wasn't making it out, if your suicidal, there's no deterent left
See what Texas can do to a person?? XD Just kidding Texas,
@thatchapter I was born and raised in Wilmington Delaware and my family still lives there. They changed that entire front lobby area in the courthouse and how people come and go after that shooting. I was only a block away when this happened. I’ve never seen so many cops.
The batshit runs strong in the Matusiewicz family.
eh, it's poland. what are ya gonna do?
I like booticheekz
@@StanleyKubick1 the only polish thing about them it their surname lol
It's so crazy, you know you can't make this stuff up. Poor Christine and Beth. Hope the little girls are doing well. The son and his parents were truly off the charts insane.
@@StanleyKubick1 This happened in the USA, not Poland, Einstein. I don't think you're too smart if you don't even know the difference between Poland and Polish. Probably an ignorant American. Your type is everywhere in the USA.
The grandmother is LITERALLY reading it like fiction
"NO!!!" Was my favourite part😅
@@aoithesuperstar2736 it literally scared me. Haha
@@1PrayerWarrior4 she was so dramatic😂😅
@@aoithesuperstar2736 She was!! I was like, holy crap, woman! It's like those middle schoolers who are trying too hard during the school play. Good Lord.
Who else gets the weird feeling that Lenore was …projecting a bit onto Christine? Her and her sons relationship was a bit sus, if you catch my drift.
Very good point. I didn't consider that.
OMG why didn't I think of that. It was pretty unusual. I was thinking "I wish my son was a mama's boy" but maybe not.
@@trueCrimeGuruYes well I think any normal mom probably wants that! “Momma’s boy” is a term for a reason. As long as you don’t move to the jungle and play house with your son and no husband for months and months you’re fine 😆
Yeah, you don't flee the country in a camper with someone you're not fucking.
I was thinking the same thing !!
This family reminds me of a family, always makes sure they sound smart while whining about the problems they created to begin with.
I can even imagine viewing children as possessions. They didn't give a damn about those children. They were upset because they lost control over them. If they actually cared about the well being of those children they would respect and nurture a relationship between them and their mother not take their mother away from them. Now those poor girls have NOTHING.
"Nothing" is better than having the deranged dad & grandparents.
can't imagine
I bet it all started with being enmeshed with her son and if his feelings were ever hurt by Christine, the mother would not stop until she was dead.
Gosh, you're right...that's what it comes down to really
@@ExpressionsofAwakening Yes, it's just typical in-law stuff really
The mother’s handed Kleenex as she covers her face. No. Tears. Tom shot his ex daughter in-law because he wanted his son to have the girls, period.
she couldn't give a crap for any of them. I hope OBSERVE will cover this case.
Yep you nailed it
@@Ichneumonxx so do I! I learn so much from Logan!!
Naw, he shot them so that they didn't crash his Ruben sandwich party.
Oxymoron:
Protect children from abuse.
By being abusive.
Yes narcissist oxymoran stay away from
No one treats my family badly! Except for me!
-Abusers
@@pineapplesideways3820 C'mon bro. It's literally the first word
@@damagecontrol7 Morans were a respected sept of the Uí Fiachrach dynasty in the western counties of Mayo and Sligo. But Moran is also the ironic way to spell moron.
This is so beyond typical in the states. It’s disgusting and sad.
This story is unbelievable. I couldn’t help but call the grandmother a few names while listening to her. Absolutely infuriating.
Granny with her fake crying tells the whole story.
Hid never treated with lsd ..... seems more like she's been self medicating herself on lsd
🤦♀️
And why does she need to read from a script if she's telling the truth
And trying not to smile at certain times too. Big faker!
Crazy arse biddy
Grandma was an absolute mental case. She seems to be the one pushing the delusions onto her son and anyone else who would give her their time.
I really hope those kids are being able to heal. I'm at a loss for words.
"Grandma's Impossible Psychosis." These freaks weren't a family, they were a cult that need to be erased.
Grandpa was just as bad
The ownership that so many parents and grandparents feel over children makes me want to vomit.
I’m so glad they got life without parole. They can rot. They took that woman away from her babies forever, her family will miss her forever. And the woman who was just there for moral support, her family mourns her for forever as well. Cruelty at its worst.
Like mom used to say, "they've all been hit with the same rock". That family is PSYCHO!
That's kind of like " They fell out of the crazy tree and hit every branch on the way down." Some people use ugly instead of crazy, but I never heard it that way growing up. This family is absolutely delusional. They dreamed up, reinforced and cemented these whackadoo ideas in each other's minds. Believe it or not, I've met people like this before. The reason they can cry so easily, passionately defend themselves and act as if they're fighting for justice, is because they repeat the lies so many times that they begin to believe them. Because they WANT to believe them. It's INSANE. Sometimes, the only way that you can begin to root out if there was ever even truth to any of the words that come from their mouths, is by trying to wade through it. Better yet, when you meet people like this, turn and run fast!
Love these sayings! Hope this thread keeps going!
They’ve all been hit with the crazy stick
I love this. Totally stealing it.
old lady really said that Christine 'offhandedly' revealed her whole ass master plan as if she went on an anime villain monologue
Who the hell casually says “my three blond white American girls will fetch me a pretty penny”???
As she twisted her mustache
@@laurieawesomeness7221 *que evil laugh
*her monocle glistened
*strighted her top hat and swung her cane.
This is the saddest case that I ever watched. I feel severely sorry for the girls, they're now orphans because of their families' obsession with their mom who didn't do anything wrong but protected them from her crazy in-laws.
Sadder than the pregnant lady that went missing and got cut open alive so they could steal the baby?
@@SpoilerAlert__ they're both sad no matter who it is.
@@SpoilerAlert__ it's not a contest dude
The mother got exactly what she deserved - for trying to keep the children away from their father. More selfish single mothers should meet the same fate.
@@GiantsWS the trolls are out in hords today
That is so insanely messed up.... They did all this to try to keep the kids from their mother and in the end the kids are left in foster care to grow up. Unbelievable..
The 28 minute rule: anytime Mike's videos are more than 28 minutes long; you know it's gonna be a crazier case than usual. And that's saying a lot.
I bet you $10 you will love my true crime videos
@@DBpsychology i gave your channel a good listen & watched a few videos, but only thing i dont really like is the personal opinions on the cases.
(1) i think fact based is better than what you think happened.
(2) the overall quality can use a little improvment.
I have subscribed and will continue to watch because i think you have the potential to be a way better crime channel. i know it take a while to get there but i will stick around a little longer. Glad i found you.
@@DBpsychology tagging you just in case you missed the feedback above!! ^
That grandmother is totally insane.
Was .. is dead now
@@khalidpervez9927 true.
What an insane story. Holy crap.
This poor mother. These poor kids.
This story really scares me as my ex and his extended family are trying to do the same to me. And I fear this very thing happening.
Get yourself a good lawyer and document everything. Do not meet either your ex or your in-laws alone in private--bring a witness and meet in a public space, like a parking lot. Make copies of anything and anything relevant and give them to your lawyer and to close friends/family just in case.
Please stay safe, and good luck 💗
Hi, just doing a welfare check. Hoping you're ok!
"he couldn't have planned it, he was gonna make sandwiches later!"
"they're only blaming us because we're white!"
.....these people are a feckin mess
It was Rueben day!
Wait what lol everybody in this story is white what do they think that has to do with anything??
The Reuben Defense! You don't get that kinda good lawyering shyte pro bono.
@@NachoAE360 there's no racism towards Black people anymore bc there are areas with majority Black populations but some white people are getting convicted for things they'd normally get off for by being white and that means...white people are oppressed now. something like that. IDK it's hard to interpret racist logic XD
He loved to eat!
It drives me crazy when people hide behind religion to try to come across as being "good people"! There's not one morsel of good in that family!
Welcome to white Christian America
My family ,sadly it works
Whenever folks feel the need to
declare their Christianity... run tf away.
@@Rugelacharugula That’s a bit racist and generalizing, don’t you think?
@@germansnowman No, it's pretty accurate actually.
How dare this old terrible woman talk about Christine even after they killed her. What a nightmare she is. And writing her thoughts down and sharing them like a damn Christmas story. She is certifiable
This is what “boymoms” eventually turn into.
I love your videos and to come across this story is wild. I am pretty close to this situation as I am acquainted with the daughter of the victim Christine. I remember that day like it was yesterday. Such a huge tragedy. Her oldest daughter was left devastated as she lost her sisters and her mother. It was and still is heartbreaking.
These in-laws are terrifying, a true nightmare scenario. It's all so sad.
Ma doesn’t have grandparent rights. Thank god! But I was blessed that my sons dad’s parents were not crazy narcissists
Someone always dies when stalking gets to this level. It was predictable. Law enforcement doesn't treat it seriously enough.
Very sadly true.
Yeah I'm glad you noticed that too 🐱 Also I find it strange that the grandmother + Father kidnapped the kids the first time and then the grandfather murdered the mom and best friend
@@wendycregan2147 wait I thought it was the father who did that?
Without evidence what would you like them to do? Go around arresting people because they may hurt someone,they may be dangerous? Come on now this isn't a case to piss on law enforcement.
I know hindsight is 20/20, but the mother and daughters should have been given new names and relocated, sort of like the witness protection program. The grandparents and biological father were never going to leave her alone.
Not a very common vehicle in Nicaragua. “No shit” flashes on the screen. Priceless Mike just priceless 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm thinking it's stuck out like that bus in Priscilla Queen of the Desert
@@4bibimimi hahaha
@@4bibimimi but it was hidden in the jungle! (no trees in sight, on a paved road, on a gravel and block site)
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Reminds me of Walter & Jesse "cooking" their product.
I live in Newark De and remember this shooting at the court but never knew the details of the family. Thanks for telling this story.
“The father is losing touch with reality.”
The State gives him joint custody of his three children.
Welcome to America baby
It didn't make sense at all... And majority custody!! What were the authorities thinking about?? I don't know, this is terribly sad. Authorities surely knew this could go wrong after that diagnosis to the father. Now, who knows where and how the girls are. The traffic of children exists and many people are involved. I usually watch these episodes and several have left me sad and disturbed, but this one has touched me the most. Poor babies :( No mother, no father, just part of a system that surely can't protect them. I want to cry....
@@kenker_ape because no other country had a warped justice system .
@@tessaducek5601 what does it matter?
a fucked system is still a fucked system
@@kmiotek9078 its a comment. Not a debate.
"My husband didn't plan to shoot anyone, because he loves to eat and we had already bought the corn beef and sauerkraut."
She's talking like he planned to die... he obviously tried to murder her and escape but failed. So he probably did plan on eating the sandwich!
You can't make that up!
What's even more amazing is that people actually believe what this wacko is saying.(the world is full of asswholes)
Lol it is so hard to watch that old loon talk
And now I want a good, sloppy Reuben. They're so good!
Wow, that family's gene pool needs a lifeguard.
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Or a permanent closure 🪦🪦🪦
Wow, 🤣🤣🤣
More like a good dose of chlorine, which I guess it got, but the kids have all ready reproduced :(
😂😂😂😂
The fact that she has to read a script is evidence enough. It's unreal how these kind of people cannot see how awful they are. They're insane and should be kept from children in general.
I hope the girls were not separated when they went into foster care.
I actually looked into that same concern and according to some employees of children services if there are two children or more and their situation leading to ultimately being placed in foster care the agencies will typically keep them together especially since psychological damage is most likely present after having endured all of the trauma.
@@lesliemartin3 thank you for answering :-)
I volunteered as a GAL in Florida for a while. Policy favors keeping siblings together. Not sure if it’s the same in Delaware but I don’t see what alternative policy stance there would be.
Unless they got lucky, they probably didn't.
That's was my first thought. It actually brought tears to my eyes. I really, really hope those little girls are in good hands. Such a horrible and sad past they had to endure.
Ohh that detective at the end saying this case “represented the best of what the justice system can do in the case of domestic violence” got my goat for sure. It’s not like the Dad kidnapped the kids and fled the Country for 18 months, then only receiving 3 years in jail. It’s not like there were titanic sized red flags and Christine/kids weren’t protected enough from the justice system.
It happens way too often 😢 Our justice system needs a hard reset.
Agreed.
That pissed me allllll the way off, because the best the justice system could do was nail those arseholes after they'd already killed Christine.
Fucken huzzah to the justice system! 😒😤
Sadly I have to agree. Far too many women are killed by domestic violence when the perpetrators should’ve been locked up years before. It seems like they only care once a person is dead
Or the fact that she got shot to death in a fucking court house lobby. Of all places you should be safe in a court of law. Texas has the most bizarre gun laws in the world - it’s insane to think about coming from a country that doesn’t allow guns.
@@viralityac It was prolly at the very entrance. Guns are not allowed in the court of law even in texas. It was prolly before the metal detector/dude with scanner. everyone is screened before you enter the courtroom, not the courthouse.
Listening to that woman makes me sick to my stomach. The fact that a lot of people even remotely believed her, even sicker
"Sick to my stomach " where else could you feel sick ? 🤣🤣
Sorry just 1 of those terms that cracks me up 🤣
@@LividRich smh. Poor thing. Bless your heart.
Totally agree
I literally had to skip over most of the part with her talking because I just couldn't deal with so much garbage.
I know right! Even on full playback speed!
I love when Mike says
“ 2: Turdy “
How was there ever a custody trial when the father was found guilty of kidnapping the kids?
Because the family court system is corrupt and does their best to hand children directly to their abuser
I was wondering about that also !!! How can you get custody after you kidnapped your kids and fled to another country with them.....doesn´t make any sense !!! Greetings from Iceland :)
If you have 1 million $ you can do it.
There must be formal proceeding to remove custody, even if one/both of the parent(s) are convicted of a crime.
See: Mitchelle Blair in court for custody of her _surviving_ children, after she'd killed two of her older kids and kept their bodies in a deep freezer at the home.
Pffttt remeber though the system always sides with the mum /s
God, I hope those poor kids come out of this okay, including Christine's eldest. I genuinely teared up a few times at the thought of how awful it must have been (and continues to be) for them.
Lol
@@marioreyes5816 ?
They testified on behalf of their mother too. Poor things
That grandmas “No!” about ruptured my ear drums.
it's Tommy Wiseau's school of acting.
I wanted to smash the screen when she yelped out that no. So friggin fake.
That part gave me anxiety!😢😢
I had looked down for a second at my phone and it scared the shit out of me
That grandma had clearly spent many hours writing her own script and reading it aloud to rehearse just the right tone, then read the script word for word. Normal people don’t do that. They don’t need to.
I watch a lot of your videos and tragedy abounds in each one. This one really touched me. All that misery over what was essentially a pride thing. How toxic the human spirit. Keep up the good work That.
can confirm from delaware there is nothing normal in the water
Haha
I like to think of our great state as a tiny GTA server
@@connorblazerod9678 wait hold up, there is a whole gta rules state out there? :o
@@gamiezion it depends which part of the state you’re in lol. Anywhere north of Middletown can be similar to a mini Liberty City at times, and anywhere south of Camden can be similar to Blaine County😂. The middle part of the state is pretty chill
Not even the lobstah!
The grandmother has a face that just makes you long to punch her.
Funny how when she's telling her story, there's no emotion... Even when she's apparently crying there's no change in her voice, there's no tears. She hides her face because there is no tears...
Speaking from experience punchable faces usually always deserve it!
When she screams “NOOOO!”
Get her an Oscar now! 😳🙄😤🤣
I know she is dead
but
I still hate this old woman's guts!
In interrogations they can generally tell somebody's emotion and crying is fake when the person supposedly crying is still able to answer questions and form sentences easily/ clearly because the part of the brain that is activated when we're all choked up makes it very hard to do both at the same time. I'm not an expert and I oversimplified it, but yeah apparently that's the gist of it.
"My son was treated with LSD for Attention Defficit Disorder, He's Dead!" uh lady, you went to a drug dealer, not a psychiatrist.
Granny was full of sh!t, but there's always an element of truth hidden in every lie. Googled it! The US GOV are the drug dealers.
Hmmm, at 1:38 on the video Mike says the son (brother to David) died from "complications of leukemia". This lady, Lenore, talks out her ass though, so 🤷♀️
Edit: wait, she said "nephew" not "son". But anyway the lady is still...not in reality. And also a "c u next Tues".
Couldn't believe what I was hearing.
People like this should not be anywhere near children.
@@audiobookschill5888 just yesterday biden tried to sell me MARIJUANA PILLS and straight up insterted them into my rectum himself while nancy pelosi held me down when i said NO to the maryjaanwqna and now im dead
back in the 80s and the 90s they would write you prescriptions fall all kinds of shit. But there are some stuff out there as far back as the 70s where they were doing dumb things like that. I bet she took that story and twisted it to fit in her narrative.
To tell the children that there mom killed herself shows they hated Christine more than they loved the girls. How sad. And descusting!!!
If David didn't know his father was going to do that, why was he just sat in the car waiting if he was supposed to be in the court house too? lol
They all knew before hand. That's why they got life in prison.
Apparently he had gone into the courthouse lobby with his father and walked around. He then left and pop stayed behind to do the deed and take one for the team. (I read court documents)
@@whopiddledonyourposttoasti175 Grim.
Yes! These people are sick and evil!
Exactly.
Classic example of the children paying for the sins of their parents/elders.
This lady really enjoys the sound of her own voice. She believes wholeheartedly that she sounds legitimate. She's not a good enough actor to pass the sniff test, let alone how her content presents itself. Unbelievable.
She sounded like she was reading for an audition.
Such a sad ending with no winners. Considering how controlling and twisted this family is, I'm surprised there was no security at the courts.
Christine was such a brave mother and fought to the end. May her soul rest in peace. I hope her children find a family that deserves to have them. One of the saddest cases I've seen.
Nanna clearly missed her calling being a fiction writer, and spent the better part of her life creating far-fetched stories 👀
Yes I feel like this is kindergarten story time
Not uncommon behavior for a narcissistic mother, I have no doubt that the old bat manipulated him into doing that final act. I had one of those mothers too. Finally figured out the level of manipulation she was doing cost me every friendship
elationship I ever had. Haven't talked to the witch for over 6 years now.
Yep practiced liar, good story writer but awful actor.
@@dr.lazarus912 sorry for what you went through, but so glad that toxicity is gone out of your life now . Sending love and prayers 🙏🙂
I had a narcissist and very abusive ex so on some level can relate . X