About cocontepi's knowledge of magic, if you consider the whole multiverse mechanic i feel like it's more likely he created magic to begin with instead of learning/discovering it. It easily explains why he would be the most powerful and knowledgeable about it, nobody knows the rules better than the creator of them!
With Fiona and Cake it’s revealed that Prismo is the origin of the Multiverse. Counter to how we usually think of the multiverse it actually exists through wishes. Every wish he grants is a new universe made. It’s not because of choice in universe that make branching universes but rather the desire for a different outcome given to Prismo. Winter King was thus the result of someone (maybe Simon or Ice King, maybe someone else who wanted to help him) wishing that The Ice King could regain his sanity and so a new universe is made where Ice King learns to transfer his insanity to someone else and made Princess Bubblgum the crazy one instead
@@WilL-DaNGcocontepi: patch 128.8a finally fixed the issue of mortals using wish magic to creatively, will now be restricted to more powerful beings. Wish patches you can no longer wish to end the world/permanently erase prismo/ have the multiverse never exist and only have primordials/ can no longer…….
Ive watched alot of your vids and agree with alot of your theories One theory that adds to another is Orgalorg being the weakest of the monsters shown before time and the idea that the reason there aren't many of these monsters around is because they were mostly wiped out in a war against them Orgalorg and some of the others we've seen being some of the smallest may explain how they evaded the destruction all the others faced, either they were seen as inconsequential and were let go and forgotten about or they were able to hide thanks to their smaller size and were too much trouble to hunt down and forgotten about I personally think it'd be that latter as that'd explain how Orgalorg despite committing countless cosmic crimes still evades the Citadel Guardians
I really liked this video format where you cover a bunch of points in inside one overarching topic. It would be cool to see more of these like a complete history on all the heroes of ooo or even all the alternate dimensions we see throughout the show, but if this was a special one time thing I’m still cool with that, all your content is great.
In going back to the Cosmic Imagination, I feel like primordials are chaotic and oftentimes "evil" because they represent the dreamers fears and negative emotions. They pose a threat to the rest of the universe or the dream itself. Especially the lich seeking to end everything, he could be a metaphor for suicidal thoughts. Orgalorg could represent maybe whatever self sabotaging tendencies we have. Coconteppi (Idk how to spell that) might be something like a fear of our own creative passions consuming us entirely or maybe, since accessing magic seems to consist of realizing the universe is all a dream/not real and maintaining ones own identity regardless, he could represent a fear of losing one's sense of self. Very interesting video, I always enjoy your content!
Only thing I don’t get about Shoko. That treehouse didn’t build itself, and Shoko wasn’t THAT deep within the branches. How did No one notice her before Finn pulled up the floorboards?
A COLLECTION OF ALL MY AT VIDEOS! Well in terms of this month. Just so newbies can get caught up in one go. So any new guys hope you enjoy. Anyway I won't keep ya and As ALWAYS I will see you in the next video Bye 😊 Edit: hey guys is the quality of the video lower for you guys or is it just me?
About Sweet Pea, I think another very important thing (I’m surprised wasn’t mentioned) is that his physical body is Billy’s body. And in the episode “The Lich” Princess Bubblegum says the only known thing that can harm the Lich is Billy’s gauntlet. So if the gauntlet alone was able to harm the Lich, I think it makes perfect sense that being encapsulated in Billy’s physical form would keep him suppressed. Until something happens to that form of course
The fact that this show plants future storylines at the end of episodes is such an awesome feature The writers of Adventure Time in my opinion are highly underrated. This show had deep meanings, epic and sad moments, excellent dialogue, and some of the best voice work out of any comparable show
Genuine question, so gunther is technically a primordial right? As he is still orgalorg just in a different physical state, so if gunther's body is still a primordial, what does that entail to gunthers offspring kitten?
Hey man! Love ur videos, keep doing what your doing! Would love if you put labelled sections in the longer vids to make it seem more put together and organized. I love this vid tho! So well done :) Thank you for doing you!
One theory that adds to another is Orgalorg being the weakest of the monsters shown before time and the idea that the reason there aren't many of these monsters around is because they were mostly wiped out in a war against them
actually, you can see on a statue during the scene with Martin and a couple hiders, Two Bread Tom was commemorated by the Islands, most likely because he's a founder!
7:14 With the correlation of magic, madness, and sadness, teaching mortals magic results in them willingly spreading suffering without him having to do anything else.
Yay! Long video! I want Moore haha Edit. The cut to mattews segment, was kinda abrupt. Maybe a "now let's talk about mattew, the cloud dude" would of been nice :P
Humans could have cause the crater, imagine a maniacal leader being on the brink of losing his base/capital, seeing that nothing is left, he would easily cause said explosion "to take everyone else with him", maybe they discovered magic after the lich detonation so maybe they managed to effectively mix it with nuclear energy.
Judging by the state of technology and the fact that Simon knew the show Cheers, the Great Mushroom War had to have started at around the mid-late 80s (early 90s at the latest). So instead of being their equivalent of WWII, what’s more likely is that it’s a hypothetical of if the Cold War essentially became hot.
i wish i had realized that the first 14 minutes of the video was actually the 16 minute video about primordials you already did before sitting thru half of the section lol edit: damn this whole video *is* just regurgitated footage nvm i guess that's what recap means lmao cannot read descriptions before getting interested whoops
Glad you like the recap. It's mainly for new guys who don't know where to start but apparently some people just like to hear me in the background so two birds with one stone
@TrueLocalWeirdo this is your longest video yet and I loved it also I’m really curious if you could do a video or two on some pro wrestling characters as there are some that i think are pretty interesting and worth talking about.
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast really that’s ok I totally get it but if you really wanted to talk about a wrestling character I totally recommend giving MJF a check out as he’s a pretty interesting character he’s also really good bad guy as well.
If Sweet Pea has the body of an eternal and is essentially the Lich's son, isn't he probably immortal as well? I feel like that Citadel juice had to give him a boost too, and being that he has the ability to suppress him you would think his power may even be greater than the Lich in the long run.
let's be fair, the ant has no quarrel with the boot we are tiny and insignificant in every way to their mind, they would see us as less than we see rats because we are not even a nuisance we are a non factor, amoeba to them the lich might allmost be considdered an ecowarrior by their standards as he acknowledges and tries to communicate with these mere mortal specs, orgalorg has no such wants or desires offcourse given that Betty could even fuse with golb tells us that this cosmic imagination really isn't setting anything in stone, or rather what makes no sense doesn't happen but why shouldn't Betty be able to do so, there is no lore issue with it, so she can,
Primordials transcend time, so clearly they are beyond the memory of a comet that qualifies as "beginning to end" Just an easier way to debunk that part
@freesteylerr082 A tiny bit of the Citadel guardians blood was able to completely take over the Lich, leading to sweet P being born. Life could do a similar thing because she is life, but this would only work if the Lich was possessing a dead body.
The stuff about the primordials existing in every part of time and in every dimension simulateously and the consciousness of each individual iteration being part of a conglomerate hive mind,, where exactly are you getting that from?
yes, that cute puffer-fish perfectly describes (at least my personal) experience with your channel) *in a good way :) it is very tasty to consume, thank you greatly :)
I dont think the liche is a primordial. Isnt he implied to have been created by the catalyst comment/mushroom bomb. A sort of antithesis to Finn. The liche being a "Scholar of Golb" would explain his knowledge of the sea of monsters as he is implied to have learned under golb.
He was not created by the catalyst comet, his essence already existed before the release of the bomb. Also, the bomb was created using his essence. AND ALSO, he appeared as a comet on the jurassic era that hit earth, and then his essence was put inside earth. His character also really relates to a concept, which probably is something related to most primordials, he represents the concept of death and evil.
Between the litch and Kokonteppi... who do you think is stronger? I think based on what I know both of them are equal, the litch may even be one or of the only reason why kokonteppi "died" because I don't see anything other being capable enough to pull off such a feat.
Nah, Bella Noche was probably used to weaken Kokonteppi until he was able to be “killed”; the video mentions how Bella Noche was likely an entity super-weapon created by the wizard rebels to overpower Kokonteppi so that’s my assumption.
@@stalkingisalovelanguage But like, was Bella Noche a primordial also? And if not I wonder how they were able to create something that could nullify even the magic of Kokonteppi, I wish we had more info on Bella Noche
@@stalkingisalovelanguage Bella noche isnt enough to make weak nor even kill a Primordial monster Even Bella's Magic/power came from Coconteppi and shaped by Coconteppi's presence
It’s called the mushroom war, im guessing that it was wore akin to WWIII and they used not only the lich bomb but also a lot of nuclear bombs, this might explain the big hole in the earth, but that would take a LOT of nukes
Imagine the mushroom war was Just gorbs power because He Kind of felt humanitys end and came to watch...the force surrounding HIM Made Humans who believed in His concept gain the knowledge for the bomb
I saw the titles of the background music so that was nice. And this is why adventure Time has the best story I've ever seen because this isn't all of the characters but is still interesting and your theories make it even more interesting and are probably even the likely ones. The only the thing I know about that has a story this interesting is the dark souls games but the problem with them is the story gets so complicated you don't even know what the fuck is happening anymore 😂😂 I would love to see you explain them
A 46 minute video, holy mother. I requested longer videos I know. But this one is a treat. Thank you, Weirdo.
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It's just a compilation of his older videos wtf
About cocontepi's knowledge of magic, if you consider the whole multiverse mechanic i feel like it's more likely he created magic to begin with instead of learning/discovering it. It easily explains why he would be the most powerful and knowledgeable about it, nobody knows the rules better than the creator of them!
tell that to game devs who are surprised by speed runners destroying their games
With Fiona and Cake it’s revealed that Prismo is the origin of the Multiverse. Counter to how we usually think of the multiverse it actually exists through wishes. Every wish he grants is a new universe made. It’s not because of choice in universe that make branching universes but rather the desire for a different outcome given to Prismo. Winter King was thus the result of someone (maybe Simon or Ice King, maybe someone else who wanted to help him) wishing that The Ice King could regain his sanity and so a new universe is made where Ice King learns to transfer his insanity to someone else and made Princess Bubblgum the crazy one instead
@@WilL-DaNGcocontepi: patch 128.8a finally fixed the issue of mortals using wish magic to creatively, will now be restricted to more powerful beings. Wish patches you can no longer wish to end the world/permanently erase prismo/ have the multiverse never exist and only have primordials/ can no longer…….
I'm literally that puffer fish
So you're about to get chopped up and serve as fiod
Us
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Ive watched alot of your vids and agree with alot of your theories
One theory that adds to another is Orgalorg being the weakest of the monsters shown before time and the idea that the reason there aren't many of these monsters around is because they were mostly wiped out in a war against them
Orgalorg and some of the others we've seen being some of the smallest may explain how they evaded the destruction all the others faced, either they were seen as inconsequential and were let go and forgotten about or they were able to hide thanks to their smaller size and were too much trouble to hunt down and forgotten about
I personally think it'd be that latter as that'd explain how Orgalorg despite committing countless cosmic crimes still evades the Citadel Guardians
I really liked this video format where you cover a bunch of points in inside one overarching topic. It would be cool to see more of these like a complete history on all the heroes of ooo or even all the alternate dimensions we see throughout the show, but if this was a special one time thing I’m still cool with that, all your content is great.
In going back to the Cosmic Imagination, I feel like primordials are chaotic and oftentimes "evil" because they represent the dreamers fears and negative emotions. They pose a threat to the rest of the universe or the dream itself.
Especially the lich seeking to end everything, he could be a metaphor for suicidal thoughts. Orgalorg could represent maybe whatever self sabotaging tendencies we have. Coconteppi (Idk how to spell that) might be something like a fear of our own creative passions consuming us entirely or maybe, since accessing magic seems to consist of realizing the universe is all a dream/not real and maintaining ones own identity regardless, he could represent a fear of losing one's sense of self.
Very interesting video, I always enjoy your content!
Only thing I don’t get about Shoko. That treehouse didn’t build itself, and Shoko wasn’t THAT deep within the branches. How did No one notice her before Finn pulled up the floorboards?
I bet Marceline thought it was sick and just built over it as to not disturb it
@@DJisslightlyaverage hmm that could be the case since she was the first onwmer of the treehouse so I think she would build the treehouse herself
@@DJisslightlyaverageTo be fair, she's probably seen many dead bodies so she probably forgot about it
Lovecraftian horrors have some cross over with these primordial
What do you mean?
Like horrors beyond comprehension?
A COLLECTION OF ALL MY AT VIDEOS! Well in terms of this month. Just so newbies can get caught up in one go. So any new guys hope you enjoy.
Anyway I won't keep ya and As ALWAYS I will see you in the next video Bye 😊
Edit: hey guys is the quality of the video lower for you guys or is it just me?
Watching this is kind of a time lapse of seeing me slowly lose my mind 😅
First time seeing your content.
It's great. I can tell you were passionate about the subject.
Man, thanks for this long video- I'd love to see more content like this, as your content is incredibly entertaining, but it's over insanely quickly.
24:08 in the adventure time original title cards book, it was said that the food is from mars sending it to earth.
A 46 minute video, holy mother. I requested longer videos I know. But this one is a treat. Thank you, Weirdo.
Getting a 46 minute long video from you was super unexpected, but very appreciated nonetheless. It's such a huge treat.
31:53 there’s literally a statue of two bred Tom as one of the founders lol
About Sweet Pea, I think another very important thing (I’m surprised wasn’t mentioned) is that his physical body is Billy’s body. And in the episode “The Lich” Princess Bubblegum says the only known thing that can harm the Lich is Billy’s gauntlet.
So if the gauntlet alone was able to harm the Lich, I think it makes perfect sense that being encapsulated in Billy’s physical form would keep him suppressed. Until something happens to that form of course
The fact that this show plants future storylines at the end of episodes is such an awesome feature
The writers of Adventure Time in my opinion are highly underrated. This show had deep meanings, epic and sad moments, excellent dialogue, and some of the best voice work out of any comparable show
Genuine question, so gunther is technically a primordial right? As he is still orgalorg just in a different physical state, so if gunther's body is still a primordial, what does that entail to gunthers offspring kitten?
Hey man! Love ur videos, keep doing what your doing! Would love if you put labelled sections in the longer vids to make it seem more put together and organized. I love this vid tho! So well done :) Thank you for doing you!
One theory that adds to another is Orgalorg being the weakest of the monsters shown before time and the idea that the reason there aren't many of these monsters around is because they were mostly wiped out in a war against them
Finns ghost girl ( I don’t know how to spell her name ) was always one of my favorite stories told throughout the seasons.
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actually, you can see on a statue during the scene with Martin and a couple hiders, Two Bread Tom was commemorated by the Islands, most likely because he's a founder!
That episode with Shoko was literally nightmare fuel as a child
Dude this was put together really well. Thank you, I needed this.
7:14 With the correlation of magic, madness, and sadness, teaching mortals magic results in them willingly spreading suffering without him having to do anything else.
Yess finally the video i wanted from you most and at the length I've been commenting asking for.
Yay! Long video! I want Moore haha
Edit. The cut to mattews segment, was kinda abrupt. Maybe a "now let's talk about mattew, the cloud dude" would of been nice :P
i would never watch this to till the end, unfortunately I know every of this thing. compilation!!
Yeah, this is mainly for new guys who don't know where to start 😅
Humans could have cause the crater, imagine a maniacal leader being on the brink of losing his base/capital, seeing that nothing is left, he would easily cause said explosion "to take everyone else with him", maybe they discovered magic after the lich detonation so maybe they managed to effectively mix it with nuclear energy.
Phenomenal video!!!! Loved the depth ❤❤ seriously dude you did an amazing job.
Judging by the state of technology and the fact that Simon knew the show Cheers, the Great Mushroom War had to have started at around the mid-late 80s (early 90s at the latest). So instead of being their equivalent of WWII, what’s more likely is that it’s a hypothetical of if the Cold War essentially became hot.
From a fun adventure cartoon to a cartoon with the lore level on par with star wars or more.
Oh my god ive been dying to see a long form video from you this is perfecto
A little late but im glad to see you made this, prob a good way to get more viewers. As always great video, and congrats on the 50K 🔥👍
This is what we've been waiting for.
i wish i had realized that the first 14 minutes of the video was actually the 16 minute video about primordials you already did before sitting thru half of the section lol
edit: damn this whole video *is* just regurgitated footage nvm i guess that's what recap means lmao cannot read descriptions before getting interested whoops
"The protagonist off the body"
This is how I differentiate between me and the voices behind my head.
So, aren't we talking about how the founders in "The Founder's Song"were the fire, slime and candy elementals?
I needed this. Thanx👊🏼
Glad you like the recap. It's mainly for new guys who don't know where to start but apparently some people just like to hear me in the background so two birds with one stone
These intros man😂. Love the longer form videos
LETS GOOOOOOOOO love this vid, commenting to help you with engagement lol, this vid deserves to believe up
thanks for being my distraction while doing final projects
@TrueLocalWeirdo this is your longest video yet and I loved it also I’m really curious if you could do a video or two on some pro wrestling characters as there are some that i think are pretty interesting and worth talking about.
Not really a wrestling guy unfortunately
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast really that’s ok I totally get it but if you really wanted to talk about a wrestling character I totally recommend giving MJF a check out as he’s a pretty interesting character he’s also really good bad guy as well.
There's so much adventure time content i missed after the ending
A beautiful beginning of puffer elder primordial
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If Sweet Pea has the body of an eternal and is essentially the Lich's son, isn't he probably immortal as well? I feel like that Citadel juice had to give him a boost too, and being that he has the ability to suppress him you would think his power may even be greater than the Lich in the long run.
I'm pretty sure he was shown in the future 1000 years after adventure time as a giant taller than mountains
45:59 without breathing only talking are you sure you aren't a primordial !!!
let's be fair, the ant has no quarrel with the boot
we are tiny and insignificant in every way to their mind, they would see us as less than we see rats because we are not even a nuisance we are a non factor, amoeba to them the lich might allmost be considdered an ecowarrior by their standards as he acknowledges and tries to communicate with these mere mortal specs, orgalorg has no such wants or desires
offcourse given that Betty could even fuse with golb tells us that this cosmic imagination really isn't setting anything in stone, or rather what makes no sense doesn't happen but why shouldn't Betty be able to do so, there is no lore issue with it, so she can,
I NEEEEEDDDD a 2nd Video on The Mushroom Bomb!!! There’s so much to discuss!
Primordials transcend time, so clearly they are beyond the memory of a comet that qualifies as "beginning to end"
Just an easier way to debunk that part
Thank you for a 47 minute video
And im sorry for the countless nights of sleep that you had to sacrifice for it
In the comics, it's explained how the earth gets its chunk taken out. I forget which one, but it has to do with the Lich
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I brought a snack, but not enough to share.
STOP HOARDING THE RECESS
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I need these long videos.
Could Life beat the Lich? Because she is literally life and has control over life, does it mean she can do something similar to how sweet P was born?
no she cannot do anything to Lich
Especially if we're talking about Lich's true form instead of his avatar/vessel
@freesteylerr082 A tiny bit of the Citadel guardians blood was able to completely take over the Lich, leading to sweet P being born. Life could do a similar thing because she is life, but this would only work if the Lich was possessing a dead body.
What about that tree guy who can erase creatures from every universe?
@@yaboyfungus516 If he can erase the lich from every universe, he wins instantly.
@@RipVanWinkleJr yes but we know Lich doesnt always have to possess a dead body
a 40 minutes vides 🤩 PERFECT
I like to imagine that sweat pea is much like farmworld jake and the litch just latched onto his corpse when the chance came after the bomb dropped
Could you do fern localweirdo
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That deer was having a hunter moment the fact he hung the candy people on the wall like display items like some kind of twisted revenge
Thanks for the meme btw it made me happy
Orgalorg could represent maybe whatever self sabotaging tendencies we have. Coconteppi
I had already watched every video in this big video but I still watched it
😮 40 minutes nice imma get myself popcorn 🍿
I wonder if Lovecraft influenced the creators of this series? Because this is basically Lovecraft for kids😂
Oml this shit gonna SLAP
If the problem with disney+ is still happening just saill under the black flag
Yooo video time
Tysm when u said to grab a snack i remembered some chips i hid a few weeks i completly forgot about ty
Please do marceline's dad vs vampire king
I brought popcorn with me this is going to be good 🕺
that song before the deer is crazy
Great video👍
Hell yeah, I love long videos like this so i can put it on while drawing or doing some long ass task
If i watch this 4 times ill have a 3 hour long video from you. Time to get some snacks.
Aaaay that is so cool man
God tier content
great video
Could you do a fern episode?
Can’t wait for cinnamon bun
The stuff about the primordials existing in every part of time and in every dimension simulateously and the consciousness of each individual iteration being part of a conglomerate hive mind,, where exactly are you getting that from?
Can you do orgalorg vs hunson abadeer please (4 days of asking)
Yay! More Content!
yes, that cute puffer-fish perfectly describes (at least my personal) experience with your channel) *in a good way :)
it is very tasty to consume, thank you greatly :)
I dont think the liche is a primordial. Isnt he implied to have been created by the catalyst comment/mushroom bomb. A sort of antithesis to Finn. The liche being a "Scholar of Golb" would explain his knowledge of the sea of monsters as he is implied to have learned under golb.
He was not created by the catalyst comet, his essence already existed before the release of the bomb. Also, the bomb was created using his essence. AND ALSO, he appeared as a comet on the jurassic era that hit earth, and then his essence was put inside earth. His character also really relates to a concept, which probably is something related to most primordials, he represents the concept of death and evil.
long videos YEEEEEEESSSS
Between the litch and Kokonteppi... who do you think is stronger? I think based on what I know both of them are equal, the litch may even be one or of the only reason why kokonteppi "died" because I don't see anything other being capable enough to pull off such a feat.
Nah, Bella Noche was probably used to weaken Kokonteppi until he was able to be “killed”; the video mentions how Bella Noche was likely an entity super-weapon created by the wizard rebels to overpower Kokonteppi so that’s my assumption.
@@stalkingisalovelanguage But like, was Bella Noche a primordial also? And if not I wonder how they were able to create something that could nullify even the magic of Kokonteppi, I wish we had more info on Bella Noche
@@stalkingisalovelanguage Bella noche isnt enough to make weak nor even kill a Primordial monster
Even Bella's Magic/power came from Coconteppi and shaped by Coconteppi's presence
Lich definitely far stronger than Coconteppi and all other Primordial monsters
@@freesteylerr082 Was exactly my thought process
Road to 100k 🔥🔥
The deer is more terrifying than the primordials
23 seconds team where u at?
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More long content! Please and thank you.
Of course shokos life is tragic if she thinks princess bubblegum is a good person
It’s called the mushroom war, im guessing that it was wore akin to WWIII and they used not only the lich bomb but also a lot of nuclear bombs, this might explain the big hole in the earth, but that would take a LOT of nukes
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Imagine the mushroom war was Just gorbs power because He Kind of felt humanitys end and came to watch...the force surrounding HIM Made Humans who believed in His concept gain the knowledge for the bomb
I saw the titles of the background music so that was nice. And this is why adventure Time has the best story I've ever seen because this isn't all of the characters but is still interesting and your theories make it even more interesting and are probably even the likely ones. The only the thing I know about that has a story this interesting is the dark souls games but the problem with them is the story gets so complicated you don't even know what the fuck is happening anymore 😂😂 I would love to see you explain them
It would be cool to see a video about fins reincarnations (
Your crater hypothesis needs to be updated with the scene from BMOs Distant Lands episode
I have a feeling that not even PRISMO THE ALL MIGHTY CAN NOT KILL THE WEAKEST ONE