The scariest part about the deer is that the creators said he survived having his the bricks dropped on him. They said that in another episode magic man turns him into a telescope. But since magic man lost his powers that could mean he changed back and is still out there.
"Before there was nothing, there were monsters" is honestly such a chilling concept that to this day that line gives me shivers. I can't see anyone other than Ron Perlman as that horrifying thing known as the Lich.
There’s a comic strip made by the writers that shows jakes death. He dies of old age, starts to grow uncontrollably, PB throws him in the giant crater in the earth plugging it up and making the earth whole again. Even in death, he saved everyone
The scariest thing about the deer, for me, is that there is seemingly no reason for him to do what he did. He had nothing to gain from the fucked up shit he did, he just seemed to enjoy creating a miserable, disturbed and depraved reality for himself
He wanted literal sugar There was a whole kingdom and denizens made of sugar I get the idea that he wouldn't have stopped with just the people and then eventually move on to the city itself
I believe stopped watching Adventure Time somewhere around Finn losing his arm, but I'm glad to see that *the deer* remains as traumatic as it was when I first saw it.
Speaking of tarot cards, the King refuses to fight Marceline because he sees it as "Subjecting himself to The Wheel Of Fortune", another tarot card reference, so given his force of will in trying to break the cycle, I'd say by the end of the episode he represents the Hanged Man, which stands for letting go of your position to find peace, learning from mistakes, and seeing life from a new perspective. He willingly goes through with the process of having his power removed at the end of the episode and effectively ends his previous life as the King of Vampires, so hey, the writers are incredibly good at what they do whether that was intentional or not.
This is late but: A comment said that since the deer has eyes on the front of his head that it indicates that the deer is a predatory animal, and is deer mimic .
It’s just edgelord nonsense. “What if Finn is really in a mental institution and his doctor’s name is Jake?!?!” “What if Naruto is just a suicidal loner and he’s just having a dream where he becomes the center of attention?!?!”
they purposely made it 60 frames per seconds just to show his ability, but doing almost 3x times the work ( animation and movies mostly run at 24 ) for the entirety of the show is too much work. that 3x times the work just so some people can say it looks smooth. and lately there's been a trend because of spiderverse that people actually prefer a character dropping frames when doing something cooo
You forgot the episode where if Finn opened his eyes he would transported to the cave where he activated that curse and sent to the exact time of it, meaning he wasted several years trying to break the curse while blind.
they even joked about it in, uh, Elements? The series after Islands. They come back from the human islands and everything is candified and Finn was like "Man I'm so tired I just wanna go home and sleep. This was the longest adventure we ever had." and Jake was like "What about that cursed Egress room that made you keep living the same day over and over again? Or Pillow World where you got old and died?" and Finn was like "..This was longer in emotional time."
I full-heartedly believe that The Deer is one of the monsters from Before Nothing, along with being one of the Apostles of Golb. Alright, let’s look at what we know: - The deer just showed up in the Candy Kingdom one day and began terrorizing the populace. - After kidnapping all of the candy people, he began the process of taking the sugar out of them. - He has HANDS!! - He was able to kidnap and seriously weaken Peppermint Butler: also known as THE DARK ONE, and known acquaintance of DEATH and HUSON ABDEER (also a Before Nothing monster). His actions cause chaos all over the kingdom and (almost) mass genocide, which goes along with Golb’s purpose of instilling chaos and destruction everywhere he goes. And we know that evil comes in all shapes and sizes, with Gunther/Orgalorg coming to mind.
Simon put on the crown for one of the final times after he promised marceline not to after he heard a noise nearby, and when he attacked the bush where he heard the noise, it ended up just being a deer :0
I wish we got a bit more lore as to the cause of the war, but I get that the message is it doesn’t matter what caused it. I always think the pre-war ruins are the coolest looking areas to Adventure Time, for whatever reason they always put in a lot of unnerving details to each place. It really is as if its been 500+ years after the war with all the written messages, evidence of looters, esc
I love all these so much but I propose that Finn’s dad doesn’t have memory loss, instead he was so distraught by having to abandon his son at sea that he is now in a constant state of denial. He couldn’t live with losing his baby, so he convinced himself that its part of his personality to be a careless dirt bag, he has taken the idea too far and now can’t be caring to his son nor the tiny villagers in “The Visitor” episode. He’s constantly running from Finn as emotional avoidance.
In the episode where Finn stops orgalorg from absorbing the catalyst comet, martin tells him:" you burn enough bridges, the only way to go is forward". So, I'd say you're spot on
I definitely think it's a combination, I thought there were instances where he actually forgot stuff pointing to a head injury (naturally can't think of them now), but this theory is great.
@@MossMothMyBeloved thats a fan theory, one that i think is alluded to even more though is with the concept of the Cosmic Imagination, its impossible for the universe to exist because someone would have to be there to percieve it, but there would have to be a universe where someone could percieve it. and all of the monsters quote from the lich "before there was nothing, there were monsters" must have existed before this universe, which isnt possible because of the cosmic imagination. what if this Cosmic imagination is actually the writers of the show? and the monsters that seemingly existed before time and the universe is the concept art of all the creatures? The paradox of how the cosmic imagination begun is an un-explainable mystery that even the enchiridion points out saying that the exact workings of the Cosmic Imagination is in-percievable, and how could you percieve it if your not even in the same multiverse as where it is? I dont think theres anything in the show to say that there are being created by human beings on earth, Basically what im saying is that OUR world could be canon in adventure time
I remember watching Obsidian and thinking "that's 100% a memorial tattoo." It's an extremely Pendleton Ward way to keep Finn and Jake together for the special
By the time you finish Adventure Time, you're left with a thousand questions and the impression you just went on a journey beyond animation and into your very soul. Its one of the weirdest shows I've ever had the pleasure of watching and the team behind it are absolutely amazing for giving us the show. James Baxter breaths more life into each scene than you'll find in a live action.
i usually don't like theories like this, but this one is really charming for some reason. fun fact, d&d was actually one of pendleton ward's main inspirations for the show ( dnd.wizards.com/articles/interviews/pendleton-ward-interview?x=dnd/4spot/20110408 )
Frankly I can't stand "it was all a dream" theories. They're so devoid of imagination. You're basically saying "Hey, what if this work of fiction was fictional"
Yes, it just makes everything you went through seem worthless. Its saying, "you like the romance of pb and marceline? Well too bad it wasnt really real."
something bizarre that sticks to me to this day is lemonhope’s episodes, idk why but they had such bad vibes, they were the only episodes i felt close to what i felt on the deer one
I know what you mean. The scene with the slow background music when he was literally returning to his room to lie down and die of old age felt like it belonged in a horror movie for some reason.
@@ionutcriveanu7019 YES OMFG, this scene really made me feel like, sick? idk it gave me such a bad feeling i can’t even explain, the whole episodes about him gave me this feeling but the end specially
@@3twibles4sweetrevenge he makes me sick fr, i got irritated with him too but by the end i was just feeling a bad thing idk, i don’t like him or his episodes
I find it interesting how Finn, in multiple lives, looses his arm. It feels strangely karmic how it’s portrayed. Also worth noting in parallel how the Litch also loses his arm, effecting every conceivable multiverse. Any correlation??
Maybe it symbolizes the sacrifice necessary to commit to their extreme ideology. atleast, I'm pretty confident that's the case with finn however the lich could be a coincidence or a surface thought of the writers.
Would this mean he saw fire princess as green and that’s why she didn’t look dangerous to him and he was calmer. Also his grass arm could have looked red or yellow.
I mean, green fire would look more threatening if anything, and it's not like he wouldn't know what fire was to begin with I think it's more a mix of Finn not really being intimidated by much, mixed with him being a good judge of character.
That's not really how colorblindness works... when you're colorblind you don't see things as "green" or something. colors are harder to tell apart. we are all taught colors the same way so, not-so-hypothetically, we could all be seeing different colors. but, non-colorblind people can see a wider spectrum, therefore, see more contrast of colors.
I like the idea that Finn saved pillowworld from Golb by getting its attention, making it divert its course and follow Finn. That's why Golb even appears in Ooo in the finale, it was following Finn. Likewise, Finn getting its attention directly saved the multiverse because now Betty is Golb.
I'm a 40 year old man who's never seen a single episodes of Adventure Time, but i watched this whole video... And it sure sounds like one weird-ass cartoon.
man.. I'm 31 yrs old and have watched it since it started. but I will tell you it is definitely not a show just for kids. I recommend finding the dvds online and watching from the beginning. You won't regret it. The show is fun, beautiful, comical, and deep, full of many real life themes relateable to both children and adults.
Man, as someone with red-green colourblindness, the show (and most fans) got it really wrong. We don't see 'green' as 'red', or vice versa. It's just easier to mess up distinguishing between similar shades of certain colours because the red-receiving and green-receiving cones in our eyes are diminished. Hence the name. There aren't actually any forms of colourblindness where someone would mistake a big bright green gemstone for a red one, except maybe total achromatopsia, which Finn probably doesn't have. But, good video, ranting aside lol
That was my first episode I watched as a kid because that was all they would play on TV. It freaked me out so much, I wouldn’t watch Adventure Time. I’m kinda sad I’m just now getting into it after it’s over.
I watched Courage the cowardly dog as a kid and also Marvelous misadventures of flapjack and Billy and Mandy. Something about unexpected creepy shit being in a kid's show is charming to me in some way lmao.
Imagine the last not frozen guy in the deer episode you're no My saviour is in a comma and the only other help has gone mad it should have been traumatizing right when the sun went down
Honestly I'm a bit frustrated at myself as I grabbed the assets for the title card and everything while planning the video. However, for some unknown reason, I completely forgot to add it into the script.
@@frank_calvert the title card of the episode "enchiridion" got censored because it was gorey,for what i remember it was finn stabbing and spilling jakes guts out
Actually, Hunson Abadeer is _not_ visible in the Pre-nothing scene. However, there are a few other interesting tidbits of theory-fodder in it. Especially combined with the last 2 episodes that have come out since this video. *1:* We see Coconteppi, a monster introduced in "Wizard City" after this video was made. Coconteppi was the original power of magic, at least as it is on Earth, and Coconteppi's corpse is proof that the pre-time monsters _can_ die. Caledonius even mentions the Second Age of Terror, which Matthew from "The Mountain" was preparing for. There is a possibility that The _First_ Age of Terror was the age before time and nothing, meaning Matthew might have wanted to either become one of the Monsters or save the world from them. Or it could just mean some time of crazy wildly powerful magic that terrified the Earth. *2:* The monsters are described as being from "before there was time", which means they existed before the Time Room, meaning it is likely that Prismo's Boss is one of those monsters, maybe even one of those we get to see in the scene. It also means the pre-nothing monsters are likely multiversal, which could mean that "nothing" only refers to our universe, and not necessarily the whole multiverse, explaining how the monsters can still exist _after_ there was "nothing". *3:* One of the monsters looks a lot like a tree with some sort of fruit/ball at the end of its branches, sort of similar to what we see in "Together Again" that Death turned into after dying. Maybe this monster was the original Death?
I normally despise when people think "it was all a dream" is a clever idea, however with Adventure Time, there is an episode in season 4 where King Worm is keeping Finn and Jake in a dream and after Finn shatters the dream at the end of the episode, it is apparent that the setting is VERY similar to a previous episode in season 1 where King Worm was hypnotizing them, which lead many to ponder if they had been stuck in the dream since that episode.
I agree, but I think that the more complex episodes of the later seasons are made very weird if we assume it’s all a dream. Especially when there are episodes told from another character’s perspective/ doesn’t involve Finn in any way. Personally, I find the theory kinda boring.
That theory was disputed by the creators in the episode about Prismo 'is that you?' when Jake made a joke about it and calling it stupid or something.(idk don't remember what he said correctly) I was watching the episode the other day and thought I could point it out.
The guy who rejected Adventure Time Must feel like a pure and utter smooth-brain whenever someone brings it up "Hey remember that time you rejected one of the greatest series ever?" "I'll never forget it."
Remember when a Deer broke both of Finn's legs, gave Jake head trauma, kept hostage ALL of the candy kingdom for weeks and they finish it off with 2 bricks to the head and then disposing his body into the waters. Excuse me, this is a kids show, right?
My personal theory is that Prismo is Jake. Prismos dimension is independent of time so the fact that jake replaces him still works out. This would also explain why Jake and Prismo get along so well. Edit: Just to be clear, Prismo was always jake, as we see him become the old man
It worries me that it got turned down so many times, like the beetles, cause it makes you think, theres probably been instances of things just as good, but after getting regretted so many times, the creator just gave up
As an OG Adventure Time Fan, This is what we have all be waiting for; a series of relations and correlations throughout the whole show that ties everything together. And you have provided that so Thank You!
I can’t believe this was your first ever video. I’ve never seen a single episode of adventure time and I found this really fascinating. I wish I had grown up watching it so I could feel nostalgic.
You need to watch it I just finished it a couple weeks ago and it feels like I've grown up with it. Adventure time is honestly such a beautiful story wrapped in a kids show exterior.
Just wanted to say that Martin’s brain injury adds up pretty well, there’s a link between traumatic brain injuries & sociopathy so his transformation into a cosmic criminal isn’t really off base. Even if TBI’s don’t make someone become a full fledged sociopath, it still will almost always amplify toxic parts of a person’s personality
I always like saying that while TBI is definitely part of why he is like he is, it doesn't necessarily have to explain the totality of his personality. the dude was a bit of a scumbag for most of his time it seems, which is why it comes naturally to him. Some mix of emotional trauma from loosing his entire family life, plus brain injury could explain why he doesn't stay with finn or necessarily be good to him. as it's once said "you burn enough bridges, and the only place left to go is forward."
I think one of the creepiest parts of the deer is that we never get any sort of explination for who or what he is. All we can do is theories, but we'll never truly know...
Adventure time has always been important to me because it allowed me (someone who spent their childhood inside) to have 11 minutes of each episode where I could pretend I was right there with them, making it so I was able to learn lessons from this show, basic things in retrospect but also things some adults still don’t have a good grasp on. This show is heart wrenching and heart warming all at the same time throughout every episode and every season. There is always something to be learned and nothing is ever just one way
This is probably the best iceberg breakdown I've seen. Adventure time is a great example of an upbeat adventure series that's able to carry some real dark undertones. And don't even get me fucking STARTED on The Deer. That episode hit different.
@@mehphala9184 Nah it was a reference to rekindling a failing relationship by having a kid. Tree Trunks is also about to break up with her first boyfriend until he says “LETS GET MARRIED!” The same theme is touched on in the one where Finn and Jake help those obnoxious spiders while they’re trapped in the web. They get back together once their creepy offspring are born and devour Finn/Jake.
I just thought it was a weird instrument I had never heard in anything else. Would fit with a lot of the weird music in the BGM and title cards (the Dancing Bug song for instance.)
@@raccooncafe5689 I'll be looking forward to that, Subbed. Btw in your follow-up video you should probably mention stuff like: -Jake's dark side and history -The deer's "death" -Subtle messages in Blenanas(this one was covered by Uncivilized elk but i really think it deserves a spot near the bottom)
raccoon café You also didn’t mention how celestial guardian blood is actually life fuel, turning the corrupted billy skeleton into a big baby Sweet P. There is also a strange relation between pyramids on Mars, Prismo’s time CUBE, Golb, GGGG and things with 4 sides to them, and there is also a theme with the number 5 like Orgalorg has 5 eyes, the blue shapeshifter has 5 eyes... This is hinted at AGAIN in the Elements miniseries where the world is essentially just cut in 4 elemental slices, only to be saved by LSP who broke the elemental harmony, the same LSP who has a 5-pointed magic gem in her forehead. Also, LSP goes on to have a relationship with Lemongrab, another character linked to disharmony and one of the few characters who has 5 fingers on each hand... There is this thing on one of the pages in the Enchiridion called “the harmony of 4”, suggesting that Golb represents a fifth something, which was breaking the harmony and thus was banished forever into a world of void by someone... This “4 means harmony and creation but 5 means disorder and emptiness” is a strange underlying theme throughout the whole series... if you want to make an iceberg category below the abyss, this one might be it. There is also the strange art piece showing Jake inflating after death and making a new continent in OOO (that replaces the big hole in the world)... tough I don’t think it’s cannon. Since we are talking about very obscure things, remember that demon summoned by Peppermint Butler that possesses the body of Cinnamon Bun in "The Suitor." He apparently holds the key to the level eight Shadow Realm and is named Ogdoad, a name related to the number eight... boy, we are back at numerology again.
@@cezarcatalin1406 These are all fantastic! I'll see if I can incorporate some of these into the follow up. Although no promises as it's already been written and recorded.
I feel like the fact that Finn has actual real trauma from everything he's gone through effecting him should've been brought up. He has a "vault" he stores his most traumatic experiences in much like how he encountered Shoko's ghost and when Jake says "Sometimes after he'd done battling Finn sits outside for a long time" like how he's self reflecting on how many monsters he's had to kill at such a young age
When the show starts Finn is 12, but he's already famous across the land. So Finn has probably been doing this since he was like 10. For years Finn has been spending almost all day of every day killing monsters, murderers, bandits and other creatures that threaten OOO's fragile societies. The boy has probably caused gore baths a few more times than he'd like to admit.
The backstory that the lich gives is honestly one of my favorite hypotheticals hands down. "Before there was nothing, there were monsters" I remember being like 13 and thinking "holy fuck thats badass" And the more I thought about it the better it got. Like you cant have good without bad, right? Well this scenario implies that pure evil was the catalyst for literally everything. There are some incomprehensibly "good" things in the A.T. universe, which fits into the whole concept of universal balance. The reason that the good things are so incredibly good, is because their counterparts are the literal embodiment of evil, death, destruction and chaos.
I feel like Martian gave up on himself once he lost his son and wife. Knowing that his wife most likely (and did) think that that was his plan the entire time was to con her
17:55 I always theorized that Finn saw Golb as Finn and the other protagonists as living through Golbs destruction. Finn died in pillow world, on his way back he technically avoided / cheated death. Then he cheats death again by narrowly escaping Golb thanks to Betty
this was really the only tv show i was invested in as a kid, i even convinced my mom to get me a bmo bookbag and lunchbox 😭😭😭 i just hope that the show continues to be loved just as much in the future!!
9:56 in the new fionna and cake series, it was revealed that it was actually prismo beaming the thoughts of fionna and cake into ice king's head. honestly wasnt really shocked at that tbh
One thing i rarely see mentioned is princess zip. She appeared in the finale as a grey (tree trunks's husbands species) and she's wearing pb's crown. At the end of high strangeness the greys said they would bring the candy life back to their homeworld.
@@leolionheart3982 she actually does take on a life of adventuring with marcy, I believe! I haven't watched obsidian yet but canonically PB and Marcy are girlfriends!
That, and that episode that happened before Oo was founded, the Ice King and Marcelyn travelled together, and the land was full of toxic monsters, I was mostly afraid of their holes
The video just hit 1000 views. On top of that, the channel also just hit 100 subscribers. I can't even begin to describe how thankful I am for each and every one of you who managed to muscle through 22 minutes of me talking. On top of that, you took the chance in watching a video posted by a channel with no previous posts. Rest assured I'm going to use this attention wisely. I'm already workshopping the next video besides the follow up to this video as of today. Thanks again, Rey Edit: 2000 views! Picture everything I just said but x2. Edit II: 10,000 YALL ARE INSANE EDIT III: 100K WHAT THE ACTUAL HECC YOU GUYS. THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE!
Its actually kinda crazy, that when youre watching a first episode of a show like adventure time or the regular show, you dont realize that its gonna be so fricking epic and full of misteries
Watching this show tripping on shrooms is my favorite thing. I watched 10 hours one night on gold caps, lemonhopes story was a trip and o watched the entire lich/fins dad storyline in one night along with ice kings backstory. It was emotional
from what ive heard,its cannon that jake is dead in obsidian.He dies within the comics and he grows uncontrollably resulting in him plugging up the mushroom war crater with his own body.It's a really sweet comic strip im sure its easy to google up.
The season 11 comics (where all the post-show content is) aren't canon, according to Adam Muto. It's just what they personally thought happened, and nobody from the show worked on the comics
Im pretty sure this iceberg should be more than 1 hour with the layers of layers of information we have about the show and the deep philosophical concepts with each arc
I'm glad you brought up the whole finn liking human flesh thing, that was back when the ends of episodes were meant to shock you more than anything, and that stayed in my mind for years. it still does tbh
Can't believe that a cartoon series can have a story that goes this deep. I have never watched any episode of it, but It just baffles me how much thought process went into this series. My mind is really blown. OMFG
i loved your style of editing!!!!! the way the letters popped in for every layer and the tone shift of the music every time you changed to the next layer was actually so satisfying
The scariest part about the deer is that the creators said he survived having his the bricks dropped on him. They said that in another episode magic man turns him into a telescope. But since magic man lost his powers that could mean he changed back and is still out there.
A menace still at large...
uh oh spaghettio
I forgot about the deer... I wish I didn't remember the deer
The deer also appeared in the elements miniseries, where he is seen in a candy form and normal form when LSP reverted ooo
The deer episode was disturbing to me
"Before there was nothing, there were monsters" is honestly such a chilling concept that to this day that line gives me shivers. I can't see anyone other than Ron Perlman as that horrifying thing known as the Lich.
It’s a very lovecraftian idea
Reminded me of the Dark Souls 1 intro
Okay but consider...
Wayne June.
@@kylesunshine2731 before there was fire, there were tall grey crags and dragons
Gives me “I am become death vibes”
So basically they gave Jake human vision and Finn dog vision? That's cute as fuck
😳
How u got 1k likes and 2 replies
Yeah thats for real adorable... didnt realise that till now
It’s also a tad sad to know that he doesn’t see the world normal vision people do tho....
Oh no... R34....
There’s a comic strip made by the writers that shows jakes death. He dies of old age, starts to grow uncontrollably, PB throws him in the giant crater in the earth plugging it up and making the earth whole again. Even in death, he saved everyone
You mean Ooo.
@@orion4622 technically Ooo is a continent, not the Earth itself.
@@MfwPrivate Well, none of our points have been confirmed, so both of these are really just head-canon
Ooo
@@orion4622 No, ooo is the continent
SCARLET IS A YELLOW SWORD YET ITS CALLED SCARLET, THEY PLANNED HIM TO BE COLORBLIND
Ik you’re joking but it’s prolly called that bc there’s a scarlet crystal in the hilt
@@tiablue9106 scarlet + busted up sword = *_SCAR_*-let
I miss Scarlet. I loved the look of that sword, and I wish Finn just went back to using it instead of getting the grass sword.
it has a scarlet gem in it i dont think they planned shit, i think they made up a name as a gap filler
No because he would see the same scarlet we see just different. So the shade of the sword would be called yellow to him aswell.
"Here's some pictures I whipped up showing what Finn sees"
Me, also red/green colour blind
"Ah yes, difference"
That's funny
sorry to hear that m8
so thats how u normally see the show?
So Im guessing you also carried a 30 ton emerald as well...?
Doesn't it just cycle back to normal then
The scariest thing about the deer, for me, is that there is seemingly no reason for him to do what he did. He had nothing to gain from the fucked up shit he did, he just seemed to enjoy creating a miserable, disturbed and depraved reality for himself
He wanted literal sugar
There was a whole kingdom and denizens made of sugar
I get the idea that he wouldn't have stopped with just the people and then eventually move on to the city itself
I don't get how he was able to get peppermint butler though like he is so powerful that deer must be secretly op
@@zaqareemalcolm wait why didnt he start with the city lmao
@@darealgeo1408 idk man hes probably depraved too lmao
@@darealgeo1408 id think though dealing with the citizen first might've been "better" as a plan tho
I like how specific Finn got with the DMT facts. He was literally telling PB her subjects were having a near death experience.
Damn that Pillow world theory... I'm sad. The fact that Finn doesn't remember a thing makes it even sadder...maybe it's even better if he forgets it.
For sure. Kinda why it's one of my favorites tho tbh.
That’s what I thought until I read “Simon and Marcy”
@@Joseph_Drew_III It's a shame that the comics aren't canon tho tbh. I'd love for stuff like Marcy & Simon or Penelope & Betty to be legit.
@@raccooncafe5689 They aren"t?
@@chocolatewatermelon2832 I don't think so? Mostly because alot of the stuff in the comics contradicts the show.
with all these icebergs it’s crazy how there wasn’t a single adventure time one before this one
I believe stopped watching Adventure Time somewhere around Finn losing his arm, but I'm glad to see that *the deer* remains as traumatic as it was when I first saw it.
FINISH IT
finish it
Finish it so I can ask you "Wait, which time?"
Same here
I don't see how you can get that far and not want to keep watching
Speaking of tarot cards, the King refuses to fight Marceline because he sees it as "Subjecting himself to The Wheel Of Fortune", another tarot card reference, so given his force of will in trying to break the cycle, I'd say by the end of the episode he represents the Hanged Man, which stands for letting go of your position to find peace, learning from mistakes, and seeing life from a new perspective. He willingly goes through with the process of having his power removed at the end of the episode and effectively ends his previous life as the King of Vampires, so hey, the writers are incredibly good at what they do whether that was intentional or not.
Judging by the other 4, it absolutely was intentional
I think the whole show is referencing alchemy, it's all metaphorical. Even the Enciridion book and the Lich
This is late but: A comment said that since the deer has eyes on the front of his head that it indicates that the deer is a predatory animal, and is deer mimic .
yoooo that's actually really cool and unnerving
@@raccooncafe5689 wait what??? i just wonder what’s the origin of the deer
@@BellNova satan.
@@maxwashere. the goat man?
@@BellNova The woods...
“It’s all a dream” theories are honestly the biggest buzzkill for a series. These people need to have some fun for once in their lives.
It’s just edgelord nonsense.
“What if Finn is really in a mental institution and his doctor’s name is Jake?!?!”
“What if Naruto is just a suicidal loner and he’s just having a dream where he becomes the center of attention?!?!”
Agreed, that explanation is such a copout/buzzkill and it kills all other types of theories
I agree
agreed.
That and purgatory theories. It's very boring
The Deer is probably one of the most unsettling characters in the series
Damn I always wondered why James Baxter’s animation was way smoother than the rest of the show
Wusyaname?
He also did a scene in Steve Universe's finale as a favour to Rebecca Sugar, and, man, are his animations always so beautiful!
@@pedroff_1 i would’ve loved to see him animate steven’s breakdown, i think the corruption animation would have been more dramatic and smooth.
they purposely made it 60 frames per seconds just to show his ability, but doing almost 3x times the work ( animation and movies mostly run at 24 ) for the entirety of the show is too much work. that 3x times the work just so some people can say it looks smooth. and lately there's been a trend because of spiderverse that people actually prefer a character dropping frames when doing something cooo
jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames baxter
love it for me how im on a huge iceberg video binge and this pops up in my recommended not even an hour after its posted :D
no way that's insane how a video with less than 10 views can pop up on your recommended like that
SAME
@@raccooncafe5689 im so happy this blew up :) u deserve it good job
im sad the show isnt being continued 😔
Well same ish
Are we gonna ignore that fact that the lich literally skinned Billy? And then even wore his skin?
Pretty sure she just possessed him
He literally lost the skin on his face and you could see the lich, that's not possession man 😂😂😂
@@izzytrex1896 it was just possession
Still pretty dark, much prefer the skin theory especially when half of Billy's face is peeled back
@@Alexander-pm3zx bruh it's really not
You forgot the episode where if Finn opened his eyes he would transported to the cave where he activated that curse and sent to the exact time of it, meaning he wasted several years trying to break the curse while blind.
Which episode is that in?
@@willroarty1512 season 7: episode 23 "hall of egress"
that episode made me so uneasy for some reason
@@jahiristhebest4365 me too. It felt so bizarre
they even joked about it in, uh, Elements? The series after Islands. They come back from the human islands and everything is candified and Finn was like "Man I'm so tired I just wanna go home and sleep. This was the longest adventure we ever had." and Jake was like "What about that cursed Egress room that made you keep living the same day over and over again? Or Pillow World where you got old and died?" and Finn was like "..This was longer in emotional time."
I full-heartedly believe that The Deer is one of the monsters from Before Nothing, along with being one of the Apostles of Golb.
Alright, let’s look at what we know:
- The deer just showed up in the Candy Kingdom one day and began terrorizing the populace.
- After kidnapping all of the candy people, he began the process of taking the sugar out of them.
- He has HANDS!!
- He was able to kidnap and seriously weaken Peppermint Butler: also known as THE DARK ONE, and known acquaintance of DEATH and HUSON ABDEER (also a Before Nothing monster).
His actions cause chaos all over the kingdom and (almost) mass genocide, which goes along with Golb’s purpose of instilling chaos and destruction everywhere he goes.
And we know that evil comes in all shapes and sizes, with Gunther/Orgalorg coming to mind.
Simon put on the crown for one of the final times after he promised marceline not to after he heard a noise nearby, and when he attacked the bush where he heard the noise, it ended up just being a deer :0
"The tip of the iceberg"
"Nuclear war"
Wish he said somethin about it honestly
@@notaidiot8701 i think everyone knows about this stuff anyway
It's not hard to figure out the fact that mushroom war refers to the mushroom shaped "clouds" that nukes make.
I wish we got a bit more lore as to the cause of the war, but I get that the message is it doesn’t matter what caused it.
I always think the pre-war ruins are the coolest looking areas to Adventure Time, for whatever reason they always put in a lot of unnerving details to each place. It really is as if its been 500+ years after the war with all the written messages, evidence of looters, esc
Adventure time lore > Steven universe lore
When the deer is so strong it claps Peppermint Butler
Literally makes that deer the strongest entity in adventure time
Yeah golf would get annihilated by that deer
@@toaster83 golf the allmeyetee beeing
@@kabooki22 golf the whirl discounter
Lich: I fear no man nor hero, but that thing...
Deer taking off it's hooves
Lich: It terrifies me.
I love all these so much but I propose that Finn’s dad doesn’t have memory loss, instead he was so distraught by having to abandon his son at sea that he is now in a constant state of denial. He couldn’t live with losing his baby, so he convinced himself that its part of his personality to be a careless dirt bag, he has taken the idea too far and now can’t be caring to his son nor the tiny villagers in “The Visitor” episode. He’s constantly running from Finn as emotional avoidance.
In the episode where Finn stops orgalorg from absorbing the catalyst comet, martin tells him:" you burn enough bridges, the only way to go is forward". So, I'd say you're spot on
Wow I do this
I definitely think it's a combination, I thought there were instances where he actually forgot stuff pointing to a head injury (naturally can't think of them now), but this theory is great.
damn, he must be REALLY convinced he's this way enough to not even worry about ripping his son's arm off and his only comment was "ew, gross"
Prismo's Boss might not directly be referenced, BUT, In an episode, the Cosmic Owl talks about a boss as well, which is probably both their boss
I think I saw somewhere that their boss is Golb
@@tarantulatheterry9763 why would their boss be Golb, Golb is chaos.
I saw somewhere that Malus is there boss and that he is the counter to golb's Chaos being a God of order.
ı heard it could be the cosmic imegenation
@@MossMothMyBeloved thats a fan theory, one that i think is alluded to even more though is with the concept of the Cosmic Imagination, its impossible for the universe to exist because someone would have to be there to percieve it, but there would have to be a universe where someone could percieve it. and all of the monsters quote from the lich "before there was nothing, there were monsters" must have existed before this universe, which isnt possible because of the cosmic imagination. what if this Cosmic imagination is actually the writers of the show? and the monsters that seemingly existed before time and the universe is the concept art of all the creatures? The paradox of how the cosmic imagination begun is an un-explainable mystery that even the enchiridion points out saying that the exact workings of the Cosmic Imagination is in-percievable, and how could you percieve it if your not even in the same multiverse as where it is? I dont think theres anything in the show to say that there are being created by human beings on earth, Basically what im saying is that OUR world could be canon in adventure time
I remember watching Obsidian and thinking "that's 100% a memorial tattoo." It's an extremely Pendleton Ward way to keep Finn and Jake together for the special
Why is that stupid deer by far the scariest thing there ever was in the show. Just hearing him mention it gave me chills.
RIght? I haven´t seen AT in years, and even more that specific episode, but still knew what he referred to
Ikr! Like my top three r the lich, golb, n the deer
Probably because the deer was a giant "what the fuck?" moment
Not to mention the fact it took off it's front hooves revealing human hands 💀💀✋
@@justarandomchannel8150 yeah that was probably one of the creepiest things about it. I mean would that mean it's part human?
Finns tattoo represents he isnt aftaid of death anymore, hes excepted that people die, and he moves past it, thus getting the commemorative tattoo
By the time you finish Adventure Time, you're left with a thousand questions and the impression you just went on a journey beyond animation and into your very soul. Its one of the weirdest shows I've ever had the pleasure of watching and the team behind it are absolutely amazing for giving us the show. James Baxter breaths more life into each scene than you'll find in a live action.
What we see: colorful kingdoms
What Finn sees: URINE
I think the color he saw made things seem even more post apocalyptic
My personal theory is that Adventure Time is one long running D&D campaign
i usually don't like theories like this, but this one is really charming for some reason. fun fact, d&d was actually one of pendleton ward's main inspirations for the show ( dnd.wizards.com/articles/interviews/pendleton-ward-interview?x=dnd/4spot/20110408 )
Well, that is better theory than that dream theory
It was inspired by D&D
I saw a super detailed and great joke theory about LOTR being a DND campaign.
@@nickwunderlich5942 link please? PLEASE
Frankly I can't stand "it was all a dream" theories. They're so devoid of imagination. You're basically saying "Hey, what if this work of fiction was fictional"
Yes, it just makes everything you went through seem worthless. Its saying, "you like the romance of pb and marceline? Well too bad it wasnt really real."
Same, to some people every goddamn childrens show has to have a dark undertone or that it’s not real. I don’t get this mindset.
I also hate them, It sucks out all of the fantasy and wonder out of things and brushes it off as "It was all in your head"
There's a few times where it makes s sense like in pokemon and the walking dead. But most of the time is doesn't belong
the same goes with their dead/purgatory theories. it just so brain dead and shallow-minded, not to mention lazy
something bizarre that sticks to me to this day is lemonhope’s episodes, idk why but they had such bad vibes, they were the only episodes i felt close to what i felt on the deer one
I know what you mean. The scene with the slow background music when he was literally returning to his room to lie down and die of old age felt like it belonged in a horror movie for some reason.
@@ionutcriveanu7019 YES OMFG, this scene really made me feel like, sick? idk it gave me such a bad feeling i can’t even explain, the whole episodes about him gave me this feeling but the end specially
i hate lemonhope
he is really irritating
@@3twibles4sweetrevenge he makes me sick fr, i got irritated with him too but by the end i was just feeling a bad thing idk, i don’t like him or his episodes
when he said "body count" my eyes went WIDE and then i realised he meant kill count 😭
Nice
Me too
Welp
I was like 😳
I mean, Finn did have kids with the pillow lady
Love how in other icebergs the theory’s sound crazy but whit adventure time is just the regular feel of watching and oh yeah that happened, nice video
totally agree with you lol
@@raccooncafe5689 yo man can you tell me what the song is when the deer comes in?
Wait. If Finn is colorblind, then to him, his backpack isn't actually green.
don't do this
:0
@the face punchers what?
@the face punchers what?
It is green to him, because that’s the color he perceives green to be. His perception of green just isn’t the same as everyone else’s
I find it interesting how Finn, in multiple lives, looses his arm. It feels strangely karmic how it’s portrayed. Also worth noting in parallel how the Litch also loses his arm, effecting every conceivable multiverse. Any correlation??
The incarnations of good and evil in a karmic loop
Maybe it symbolizes the sacrifice necessary to commit to their extreme ideology. atleast, I'm pretty confident that's the case with finn however the lich could be a coincidence or a surface thought of the writers.
Imagine litch is the future finn
@@JohnCautionSignor a past finn… what if the lich is somehow connected to the blue comment
@@itsdomtoo they are connected. The Lich is the reincarnation of the Green catalyst comet
Are we sure "3000-9" isn't just a callback to LSP saying "Who cares it's 2009" at the start of the series but it's a 1000 years in the future?
That could totally be the origins of their name that's amazing lol. I never considered that.
@@raccooncafe5689 I hope it is, that would be pretty clever haha
WHATEVERS 2009
Would this mean he saw fire princess as green and that’s why she didn’t look dangerous to him and he was calmer. Also his grass arm could have looked red or yellow.
I mean, green fire would look more threatening if anything, and it's not like he wouldn't know what fire was to begin with
I think it's more a mix of Finn not really being intimidated by much, mixed with him being a good judge of character.
That's not really how colorblindness works... when you're colorblind you don't see things as "green" or something. colors are harder to tell apart. we are all taught colors the same way so, not-so-hypothetically, we could all be seeing different colors. but, non-colorblind people can see a wider spectrum, therefore, see more contrast of colors.
@teddy bear I’m colorblind, we can see colors but we can mix them up based on shade
If fire was green your whole life methinks you would realize fire when you saw it :)
@@generik7414 lich has green fire
More reasons to green fire be more threatning
Before there was time there was nothing
and before there was nothing there were monsters.
Before there were monsters...
🦌
🦌
The one thing the Lich is afraid of
I can't see that that symbol what is it?
@@pyroboi7003 believe me you don't wanna know... it's better that way
@@Jnnkilja-zm1jv ^
I like the idea that Finn saved pillowworld from Golb by getting its attention, making it divert its course and follow Finn. That's why Golb even appears in Ooo in the finale, it was following Finn. Likewise, Finn getting its attention directly saved the multiverse because now Betty is Golb.
I'm a 40 year old man who's never seen a single episodes of Adventure Time, but i watched this whole video... And it sure sounds like one weird-ass cartoon.
it's a great cartoon, honestly. weirdly enjoyable for all ages too. although i must admit the first couple seasons are a bit kiddish
That’s the understatement of the century lol
man.. I'm 31 yrs old and have watched it since it started. but I will tell you it is definitely not a show just for kids. I recommend finding the dvds online and watching from the beginning. You won't regret it. The show is fun, beautiful, comical, and deep, full of many real life themes relateable to both children and adults.
This shows true age demographic is impossible to determine, it’s extremely broad
It’s a fantastic show. Be patient with it too, trust me you’ll get invested
The whole existance of the deer episode is like a fever dream to me.
I didn't watch it luckily but what did the deer do?
@@luisfernandocaelhernandez9599 he has hands
@@luisfernandocaelhernandez9599 you don’t wanna know
@@luisfernandocaelhernandez9599 we can't explain it you must try it yourself...
@@luisfernandocaelhernandez9599 he is horribly scary
The deer’s fingers are nightmare source
😭 Fr lmao.
made my skin crawl SO BAD
same horrible feeling watching it for the first time to the thirtieth
That's my biggest piece of evidence that it wasn't a deer, but a mimic like creature pretending to be a deer.
Man, as someone with red-green colourblindness, the show (and most fans) got it really wrong. We don't see 'green' as 'red', or vice versa. It's just easier to mess up distinguishing between similar shades of certain colours because the red-receiving and green-receiving cones in our eyes are diminished. Hence the name. There aren't actually any forms of colourblindness where someone would mistake a big bright green gemstone for a red one, except maybe total achromatopsia, which Finn probably doesn't have. But, good video, ranting aside lol
yea when i ran the script by my colorblind friend he said the exact same thing lol. and thanks, good to hear that you enjoyed it!!
The deer episode made me so fucking scared as a kid, it’s just way too creepy for a “kid” ‘s show
That was my first episode I watched as a kid because that was all they would play on TV. It freaked me out so much, I wouldn’t watch Adventure Time. I’m kinda sad I’m just now getting into it after it’s over.
@PHANTOMx same
Me when I was a Kid watching this: 👁️👄👁️
and now I realize it was so freaking scary
I watched Courage the cowardly dog as a kid and also Marvelous misadventures of flapjack and Billy and Mandy. Something about unexpected creepy shit being in a kid's show is charming to me in some way lmao.
They say that "The Deer" is feared by even the most hardcore hunters.
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If somebody saw a deer stand on its back legs then process to remove its front hooves to reveal hands, who wouldnt run?
The Deer is a supremely define being that brings together the worst of enemies in a containment they don’t even fully understand.
Imagine the last not frozen guy in the deer episode you're no My saviour is in a comma and the only other help has gone mad it should have been traumatizing right when the sun went down
feer the deer
this post was made by the Golden Deer House
Surprised the unused enchiridion title card was not in the iceburg somewhere.
Honestly I'm a bit frustrated at myself as I grabbed the assets for the title card and everything while planning the video. However, for some unknown reason, I completely forgot to add it into the script.
can i get a tldr of this?
@@frank_calvert the title card of the episode "enchiridion" got censored because it was gorey,for what i remember it was finn stabbing and spilling jakes guts out
@@tigerdiamond2486 apparently they made it to vent out their frustrations
@@ArKaded8 damn,didn't know that
Actually, Hunson Abadeer is _not_ visible in the Pre-nothing scene. However, there are a few other interesting tidbits of theory-fodder in it. Especially combined with the last 2 episodes that have come out since this video.
*1:* We see Coconteppi, a monster introduced in "Wizard City" after this video was made. Coconteppi was the original power of magic, at least as it is on Earth, and Coconteppi's corpse is proof that the pre-time monsters _can_ die. Caledonius even mentions the Second Age of Terror, which Matthew from "The Mountain" was preparing for. There is a possibility that The _First_ Age of Terror was the age before time and nothing, meaning Matthew might have wanted to either become one of the Monsters or save the world from them. Or it could just mean some time of crazy wildly powerful magic that terrified the Earth.
*2:* The monsters are described as being from "before there was time", which means they existed before the Time Room, meaning it is likely that Prismo's Boss is one of those monsters, maybe even one of those we get to see in the scene. It also means the pre-nothing monsters are likely multiversal, which could mean that "nothing" only refers to our universe, and not necessarily the whole multiverse, explaining how the monsters can still exist _after_ there was "nothing".
*3:* One of the monsters looks a lot like a tree with some sort of fruit/ball at the end of its branches, sort of similar to what we see in "Together Again" that Death turned into after dying. Maybe this monster was the original Death?
Thanks for this 👍
Nice 👍
Honestly "The Deer" was an episode that really messed me up when I was younger. Something about it just made me feel uneasy.
To be fair, it was like, beat for beat a memory loss horror movie
Can someone explain that episode to me please?
@BruceTheFuckinfGoose i watched it its horrifying if you think deep about it but still didnt understand the deer
I normally despise when people think "it was all a dream" is a clever idea, however with Adventure Time, there is an episode in season 4 where King Worm is keeping Finn and Jake in a dream and after Finn shatters the dream at the end of the episode, it is apparent that the setting is VERY similar to a previous episode in season 1 where King Worm was hypnotizing them, which lead many to ponder if they had been stuck in the dream since that episode.
I agree, but I think that the more complex episodes of the later seasons are made very weird if we assume it’s all a dream. Especially when there are episodes told from another character’s perspective/ doesn’t involve Finn in any way. Personally, I find the theory kinda boring.
This is the same shit with Steven Universe, where Steven is living an alternate life since "Steven and the Stevens".
That theory was disputed by the creators in the episode about Prismo 'is that you?' when Jake made a joke about it and calling it stupid or something.(idk don't remember what he said correctly)
I was watching the episode the other day and thought I could point it out.
In Adventure Time, dreams can affect the fabric of their reality.
When people make the theory "It's all a dream" it's a sign that they can't think of any explanation or can't bother thinking of one
The Deer was also in the primordial soup. He was the first ingredients.
What’s the primordial soup again?
The guy who rejected Adventure Time Must feel like a pure and utter smooth-brain whenever someone brings it up
"Hey remember that time you rejected one of the greatest series ever?"
"I'll never forget it."
It would have different and would have been a lot less darker if Nick picked it up though, I'm glad CN got it.
Remember when a Deer broke both of Finn's legs, gave Jake head trauma, kept hostage ALL of the candy kingdom for weeks and they finish it off with 2 bricks to the head and then disposing his body into the waters.
Excuse me, this is a kids show, right?
Weeks no
Months
@stareatthesunman!!! this.
it has it's eyes on the front, it's a deer-mimicking predator.
not just "weeks" it was 6 months
@@polina-rs4lr or its just to show his eyes?
@@Breached18 Deer can't just suddenly change their own biology to have eyes on the front as opposed to the side.
My personal theory is that Prismo is Jake. Prismos dimension is independent of time so the fact that jake replaces him still works out. This would also explain why Jake and Prismo get along so well.
Edit: Just to be clear, Prismo was always jake, as we see him become the old man
whoa, this one actually makes a lot of sense!
But Prismo and Jake are clearly two separate beings.
@@VexJinks he’s saying that since he replaced in the one episode and he literally replaced prismo
Soo when prismo die...
Is a canônica jake death ?
@@VexJinks He means that Prismo is and always has been Jake, which makes sense if you think about it
As a colorblind myself, was really confused in that ruby/emerald scene lmao
You made my day
Wait so on this photo at 2:56, could you describe the colors you see?
Ure a colorblind and not a colorblind person? Wow thats so cool
OH NOOOO DUDE 😭😭😭
FRRR
It worries me that it got turned down so many times, like the beetles, cause it makes you think, theres probably been instances of things just as good, but after getting regretted so many times, the creator just gave up
u had to bring again the "deer" to my nightmares
🦌
Is it bad that as a child I found the deer one of the funniest characters of the show.
@@ThyBigCheddar maybe we aint think alike😂😂
@@ThyBigCheddar He does act and look funny
As an OG Adventure Time Fan, This is what we have all be waiting for; a series of relations and correlations throughout the whole show that ties everything together. And you have provided that so Thank You!
No problem, glad to hear that!
@@raccooncafe5689 came back to watch again
@@lebronjames4705 thanks!!
I can’t believe this was your first ever video. I’ve never seen a single episode of adventure time and I found this really fascinating. I wish I had grown up watching it so I could feel nostalgic.
thanks! never too late to get into the show imo
You need to watch it I just finished it a couple weeks ago and it feels like I've grown up with it. Adventure time is honestly such a beautiful story wrapped in a kids show exterior.
Just wanted to say that Martin’s brain injury adds up pretty well, there’s a link between traumatic brain injuries & sociopathy so his transformation into a cosmic criminal isn’t really off base. Even if TBI’s don’t make someone become a full fledged sociopath, it still will almost always amplify toxic parts of a person’s personality
I always like saying that while TBI is definitely part of why he is like he is, it doesn't necessarily have to explain the totality of his personality. the dude was a bit of a scumbag for most of his time it seems, which is why it comes naturally to him. Some mix of emotional trauma from loosing his entire family life, plus brain injury could explain why he doesn't stay with finn or necessarily be good to him. as it's once said "you burn enough bridges, and the only place left to go is forward."
brain injurys do not amplify the "toxic parts of peoples personality." thats just not fucking true.
Oh cool that kill count post was mine. I'm glad you found it useful!
whoooa i can't imagine the work it took to make that. thank you for your hard work! the original post is archived so i never got to thank you.
I think one of the creepiest parts of the deer is that we never get any sort of explination for who or what he is. All we can do is theories, but we'll never truly know...
The snail is like the butterfly from Kirby. You don't suspect them but they are way more important than you think
wait the snail was important?
@@catminecraftyas the snail breaks out the lich
The snail is still there 1000 years later
Adventure time has always been important to me because it allowed me (someone who spent their childhood inside) to have 11 minutes of each episode where I could pretend I was right there with them, making it so I was able to learn lessons from this show, basic things in retrospect but also things some adults still don’t have a good grasp on. This show is heart wrenching and heart warming all at the same time throughout every episode and every season. There is always something to be learned and nothing is ever just one way
This is probably the best iceberg breakdown I've seen. Adventure time is a great example of an upbeat adventure series that's able to carry some real dark undertones.
And don't even get me fucking STARTED on The Deer. That episode hit different.
Shame it didn’t talk about how Tree Trunks was about to say “I think we should get a divorce” before Sweetpea was given to them
I thought she was gonna say that they should get a kid
@@mehphala9184 Nah it was a reference to rekindling a failing relationship by having a kid. Tree Trunks is also about to break up with her first boyfriend until he says “LETS GET MARRIED!”
The same theme is touched on in the one where Finn and Jake help those obnoxious spiders while they’re trapped in the web.
They get back together once their creepy offspring are born and devour Finn/Jake.
The fact that soy people exist made me believe that lady rainicorns parents hunted vegans or vegetarians not regular humans.
i love how this comment implies vegetarians are not normal humans.
>soy people
*i smell redditors*
This would make sense too, because herbivore meat tastes ways better than carnivore meat.
@@silobobus3268 "implies" you mean asserts cause its true
@@silobobus3268 jk
I love how the whole time you have some nice music playing then as soon as the deer shows up the beat drops and it’s time to escape
When I was younger, I always thought the typing was Jake's footsteps.
I could totally see that being his footsteps too lol
I just thought it was a weird instrument I had never heard in anything else. Would fit with a lot of the weird music in the BGM and title cards (the Dancing Bug song for instance.)
same
I never noticed the typing even after growing up with the show for 9 or 10 years
Ngl i was expecting something like "Santa was one of the crown's victim". It's pretty interesting.
Oh yeah I completely forgot about that one. I'll def mention it in the follow up.
@@raccooncafe5689 I'll be looking forward to that, Subbed. Btw in your follow-up video you should probably mention stuff like:
-Jake's dark side and history
-The deer's "death"
-Subtle messages in Blenanas(this one was covered by Uncivilized elk but i really think it deserves a spot near the bottom)
raccoon café
You also didn’t mention how celestial guardian blood is actually life fuel, turning the corrupted billy skeleton into a big baby Sweet P.
There is also a strange relation between pyramids on Mars, Prismo’s time CUBE, Golb, GGGG and things with 4 sides to them, and there is also a theme with the number 5 like Orgalorg has 5 eyes, the blue shapeshifter has 5 eyes... This is hinted at AGAIN in the Elements miniseries where the world is essentially just cut in 4 elemental slices, only to be saved by LSP who broke the elemental harmony, the same LSP who has a 5-pointed magic gem in her forehead. Also, LSP goes on to have a relationship with Lemongrab, another character linked to disharmony and one of the few characters who has 5 fingers on each hand... There is this thing on one of the pages in the Enchiridion called “the harmony of 4”, suggesting that Golb represents a fifth something, which was breaking the harmony and thus was banished forever into a world of void by someone... This “4 means harmony and creation but 5 means disorder and emptiness” is a strange underlying theme throughout the whole series... if you want to make an iceberg category below the abyss, this one might be it.
There is also the strange art piece showing Jake inflating after death and making a new continent in OOO (that replaces the big hole in the world)... tough I don’t think it’s cannon.
Since we are talking about very obscure things, remember that demon summoned by Peppermint Butler that possesses the body of Cinnamon Bun in "The Suitor." He apparently holds the key to the level eight Shadow Realm and is named Ogdoad, a name related to the number eight... boy, we are back at numerology again.
@@cezarcatalin1406 These are all fantastic! I'll see if I can incorporate some of these into the follow up. Although no promises as it's already been written and recorded.
I feel like the fact that Finn has actual real trauma from everything he's gone through effecting him should've been brought up. He has a "vault" he stores his most traumatic experiences in much like how he encountered Shoko's ghost and when Jake says "Sometimes after he'd done battling Finn sits outside for a long time" like how he's self reflecting on how many monsters he's had to kill at such a young age
When the show starts Finn is 12, but he's already famous across the land. So Finn has probably been doing this since he was like 10.
For years Finn has been spending almost all day of every day killing monsters, murderers, bandits and other creatures that threaten OOO's fragile societies.
The boy has probably caused gore baths a few more times than he'd like to admit.
The vampire king is 100% supposed to be the wheel of fortune. He literally says it in the second to last episode
Imagine how the person at nickelodeon who said no felt when Adventure Time became popular
Even if it was greeenlit Nick would have ruined it anyway eventually
The backstory that the lich gives is honestly one of my favorite hypotheticals hands down.
"Before there was nothing, there were monsters"
I remember being like 13 and thinking "holy fuck thats badass"
And the more I thought about it the better it got. Like you cant have good without bad, right? Well this scenario implies that pure evil was the catalyst for literally everything. There are some incomprehensibly "good" things in the A.T. universe, which fits into the whole concept of universal balance. The reason that the good things are so incredibly good, is because their counterparts are the literal embodiment of evil, death, destruction and chaos.
I feel like Martian gave up on himself once he lost his son and wife. Knowing that his wife most likely (and did) think that that was his plan the entire time was to con her
"Finn and Jake's body count"
"How many people they killed"
Oh, not that kind of body count..
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To be fair it would have to be at least 1
@@bgdelta3129 at least 2, Finn had kids in puhoy
"not a lot of ppl talk about this"
*thing everyone knows*
"so marceline is a vampire"
THE DEER NO NO NO NO NO NO I HAD NIGHTMARES ABOUT THAT FUCKING DARE MAN NAH NAH NAH
are we going to ignore the fact that PRISMO IS A HUMAN
i just thought about that...
Who is prismo
I hated this fucked up....Series ?
@@bmw-owner the wish master aka that pink guy his real body is human he the subconscious of that human
@@bmw-owner i think the pickle wish guy
@@bmw-owner if you hate the episode, why do you care who the characters are?
17:55 I always theorized that Finn saw Golb as Finn and the other protagonists as living through Golbs destruction. Finn died in pillow world, on his way back he technically avoided / cheated death. Then he cheats death again by narrowly escaping Golb thanks to Betty
Watched this instead of making physics homework, just like I used to watch Adventure Time instead of doing chores. Good stuff man :)
thanks! glad i could give you that feeling again lol
Its chemistry to me bro. XD
this was really the only tv show i was invested in as a kid, i even convinced my mom to get me a bmo bookbag and lunchbox 😭😭😭 i just hope that the show continues to be loved just as much in the future!!
9:56 in the new fionna and cake series, it was revealed that it was actually prismo beaming the thoughts of fionna and cake into ice king's head. honestly wasnt really shocked at that tbh
I still find it neat how it was planned a few years ahead of time
One thing i rarely see mentioned is princess zip. She appeared in the finale as a grey (tree trunks's husbands species) and she's wearing pb's crown. At the end of high strangeness the greys said they would bring the candy life back to their homeworld.
So either PB is dead or takes on a life of adventuring with Marceline
@@leolionheart3982 she actually does take on a life of adventuring with marcy, I believe! I haven't watched obsidian yet but canonically PB and Marcy are girlfriends!
We also know TT hates PB and wants to overthrow her. And PB would probably get sick of the while thing and let them. She already did it before heh.
The deer episode was the most terrifying thing that I watched as a kid nothing else even came close
The part when he broke finns legs was horrifying
The deer breaking Finn’s legs was the most graphic thing I’ve seen until I watched the old Berserk animation
I'm 50 years old, I just watched that episode for the first time like a month ago. SCARY CONFIRMED.
That, and that episode that happened before Oo was founded, the Ice King and Marcelyn travelled together, and the land was full of toxic monsters, I was mostly afraid of their holes
The video just hit 1000 views. On top of that, the channel also just hit 100 subscribers. I can't even begin to describe how thankful I am for each and every one of you who managed to muscle through 22 minutes of me talking. On top of that, you took the chance in watching a video posted by a channel with no previous posts. Rest assured I'm going to use this attention wisely. I'm already workshopping the next video besides the follow up to this video as of today.
Thanks again,
Rey
Edit: 2000 views! Picture everything I just said but x2.
Edit II: 10,000 YALL ARE INSANE
EDIT III: 100K WHAT THE ACTUAL HECC YOU GUYS. THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE!
Pretty epic Vid good job
Congrats dude its at 20,000 now
Congrats man, 20.000 views, i loved the video
I see we both like gravity falls. Can you do a iceberg on gravity falls?
it's at 40000 now lol, can't wait 2 see ur channel blow up !!
Its actually kinda crazy, that when youre watching a first episode of a show like adventure time or the regular show, you dont realize that its gonna be so fricking epic and full of misteries
i looked this up one day after it was posted, that’s kinda perfect lmao
ooh very serendipitous. cosmic owl urinal at work if...
It would've been funny if the vampire king was named "The World"
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I feel bad for any kid that didn’t grow up with this show
I was in my late 20s when this show started and I watched it with my kids. I loved it.
I never got to grow with this sadly
Watching this show tripping on shrooms is my favorite thing. I watched 10 hours one night on gold caps, lemonhopes story was a trip and o watched the entire lich/fins dad storyline in one night along with ice kings backstory. It was emotional
best show to watch on shrooms!!
This video is really well written, I didn't even realize it was 22 minutes since you didn't waste time in any particular topic.
from what ive heard,its cannon that jake is dead in obsidian.He dies within the comics and he grows uncontrollably resulting in him plugging up the mushroom war crater with his own body.It's a really sweet comic strip im sure its easy to google up.
The season 11 comics (where all the post-show content is) aren't canon, according to Adam Muto. It's just what they personally thought happened, and nobody from the show worked on the comics
This isn’t cannon. That was just an idea one of the creators had.
Didn't he die from chocking on a sandwich?
Actually, in that comic strip, Finn is already dead, so if it even was canon it would prove that Jake is still alive in Obsidian.
This is seriously high effort, I love the background fitting with each layer, great video!
Glad you like it!
Im pretty sure this iceberg should be more than 1 hour with the layers of layers of information we have about the show and the deep philosophical concepts with each arc
While a few have already been made, I think a Gravity Falls iceberg would be really cool
hmm maybe eventually i might do a break down of one, although I'll probably have to get the permission of the original creator first
"Finn is in a coma"
The 5000 stories, the secondary characters spin off episodes and together again special: °-°
I'm glad you brought up the whole finn liking human flesh thing, that was back when the ends of episodes were meant to shock you more than anything, and that stayed in my mind for years. it still does tbh
Can't believe that a cartoon series can have a story that goes this deep. I have never watched any episode of it, but It just baffles me how much thought process went into this series. My mind is really blown. OMFG
i loved your style of editing!!!!! the way the letters popped in for every layer and the tone shift of the music every time you changed to the next layer was actually so satisfying