Wales 20mph speed limit is 'BONKERS!' | Sam Rowlands MS slams new proposals

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  • @ricardotomaso7069
    @ricardotomaso7069 Рік тому +120

    She's mental. Its up to voters to stop this crap.

    • @hugodrax71
      @hugodrax71 Рік тому +6

      She's reading the script every Labour AM has been given.

    • @santallum
      @santallum Рік тому

      your vote doesn't count for anything ............ who do you think would vote for this shite !?

    • @barrysmith7291
      @barrysmith7291 Рік тому +2

      Your right vote them out

    • @rogergriffiths3345
      @rogergriffiths3345 Рік тому +3

      She’s a typical example of a politician who speaks a load of nonsense very well. Articulate but with no common sense whatsoever. Drakeford studied Latin for his degree & taught and as Professor of Social Policy and Applied Social Sciences. Says it all really, about as practical as a chocolate teapot

    • @hectichazerdus
      @hectichazerdus Рік тому +1

      Shes off her meds, if the makeup and the banners isn't enough evidence. Imagine a husband putting up with that loonie. Shes talking red flag

  • @brianpotter3870
    @brianpotter3870 Рік тому +89

    Wales NHS is in dire straits and they’re wasting money on this nonsense. Good old Drakeford, he’s completely bonkers.

    • @kenhaynes4259
      @kenhaynes4259 Рік тому +1

      To be hoped no one has a serious accident !

    • @hugodrax71
      @hugodrax71 Рік тому +1

      And there are schools in Wales suffering huge funding deficits.

    • @tweedlio2763
      @tweedlio2763 Рік тому +1

      Its costing £33m to implement, they hope it will save them £58m over the next 30YEARS!!!
      It will take 16 years for it to maybe be beneficial!!
      Absolutely laughable

    • @hugodrax71
      @hugodrax71 Рік тому +3

      @@tweedlio2763 And the cost to the already shrinking Welsh economy - £4.5bn over 30 years. This is a Drakeford special.

    • @robdee9341
      @robdee9341 2 місяці тому

      A year on and it was nearly 500.000 signatures. Drivers are being criminalised because Drayford was on an ego trip just before he retired. There is a long down hill road near where I live that has been changed to twenty and when I drive down it its a struggle in second gear to keep to 20. You have to keep pumping the brake pedal to stay legal. Great for the environment and car emissions (not)..
      And can anyone explain how the change over cost 35 million pounds. Thats 35 x 1000 x1000 pounds. Why didn't they just have a load of 20 mph stick ons made and stick them on top of the 30mph saving about 34.75 million pounds.
      Over to you Mr Drakeford..

  • @aceventurapetdetective2356
    @aceventurapetdetective2356 Рік тому +166

    I've said it many times , Welsh first minister Drakeford is determined to break Wales, then blame Westminster.

    • @JamesCorbettMusic5000
      @JamesCorbettMusic5000 Рік тому +15

      Yep, remember when it’s time to vote! This needs overturning

    • @lisafarr2317
      @lisafarr2317 Рік тому

      Drakeford is there to ruin Wales. He is despised for all the damage and hurt he has inflicted one the Welsh. He said he was going several months ago but he is still here like a rancid stink, ripping at the funds to spend on matters that breaks Wales further.

    • @althomas3168
      @althomas3168 Рік тому

      It’s the Nats and valley numpties voting Labour.. Wales is shot.

    • @ItsBigJC
      @ItsBigJC Рік тому

      Absolutely ! He’s our khan. Look at covid and now this. Mark 💧 ford is not liked and doesn’t represent the Welsh people and what we actually want and think

    • @barrysmith7291
      @barrysmith7291 Рік тому +3

      I couldn’t agree, more with you he’s embarrassing 😢🤦🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @raymondadams7570
    @raymondadams7570 Рік тому +178

    more pollution, cars will be in lower gears, thus less efficient

    • @drewwilliams6888
      @drewwilliams6888 Рік тому +18

      Drakeford and his colleagues, haven't thought of that yet.

    • @airvicemarshalsirgeorgemas2083
      @airvicemarshalsirgeorgemas2083 Рік тому +27

      @@drewwilliams6888 they have, but lie through their rotten teeth. It's about driving people off the roads

    • @samsolomon6152
      @samsolomon6152 Рік тому

      Cars today are becoming more powerful, more efficient and less polluting. The argument that 20mph causes less pollution is nonsense. Since the 1960s, cars on the roads have reduced their pollution output by over 99%. Yet these bureaucrats want to ignore reality just for this cash grabbing scheme. They're only in politics for money and power and should be voted out. Very dangerous for democracy (what's left of it, that is).

    • @queenberengaria9626
      @queenberengaria9626 Рік тому +2

      Safer? Greener? Less fuel? She actually nearly said "demented" I thought! She IS demented and definitely anti-car. Fine. So,how long to get from English border to Welsh Atlantic coast???Start now, finish end of week !!??
      Plus why are all these thousands of children she mentions spilling out carelessly all over the road?
      Roads are for cars, pedestrians use pavements. It's always been that way. Jeez.

    • @wottevva
      @wottevva Рік тому

      To be fair, lower speeds are better for the environment, less crap coming out of your exhaust, less fuel being used, and less road noise, sadly all true facts. I cannot stand 20 mph either, but slower is for sure more economical and cleaner.

  • @stuartmc18
    @stuartmc18 Рік тому +82

    A properly enforced 30mph limit is perfectly fine for residential areas.

    • @santallum
      @santallum Рік тому +3

      I don't agree ... as long as we are driving SAFELY that's all the rules we need ... thank you very much

    • @contessa.adella
      @contessa.adella Рік тому

      @@santallum Why not 15 mph then? Like all you lefty greenos insist for ebikes. There’s a difference between laws to enhance safety and using the ‘safety’ excuse to curtail personal freedoms and responsibility. You know who else used ‘safety’ as the excuse to shackle and micro manage the population under his control? Hitler.

  • @captainbuggernut9565
    @captainbuggernut9565 Рік тому +58

    20mph everywhere is potty. Any idea of visiting Wales for a holiday just evaporated.

    • @MDM1992
      @MDM1992 Рік тому +2

      Not to mention we have some of the most enjoyable national speed limit lanes for driving on the planet, but 99% of them have the odd house every 5 miles so no doubt will be considered residential.. it's a fucking disgrace and we need to pull the cameras down.

    • @richardchamberlain3736
      @richardchamberlain3736 Рік тому

      yeah fck wales

  • @airvicemarshalsirgeorgemas2083
    @airvicemarshalsirgeorgemas2083 Рік тому +48

    Don't go to Wales. Tourist tax of £5 per night coming soon in Wales too

    • @wayneparkinson4558
      @wayneparkinson4558 Рік тому

      My be the employers will pay there staff a proper living wage then.There's a burden when tourists visit wales for its dangerous terrain and lots of English sprain there ankles trying to be hikers in them there green valleys such a great holiday destination and 20 mph in a pedestrian area should be in place?

    • @El.Cid17
      @El.Cid17 Рік тому +1

      ​@@wayneparkinson4558 Get a bloody life.

    • @paulmorris5166
      @paulmorris5166 Рік тому +7

      I live in in one of the Welsh valleys. Drive up them, the views of the boarded up shops, pubs, clubs, banks and butchers are really spectacular. Wales is dead, it died when the miners stopped singing.

    • @wayneparkinson4558
      @wayneparkinson4558 Рік тому

      @@paulmorris5166 A sad incitement of the internet couch potato culture we need to get out more in them green valleys and provide more jobs for the locals mybe?

    • @Terence-zb5cb
      @Terence-zb5cb Рік тому

      ​@@wayneparkinson4558 stupid Wales horrible weather roads boycott Wales soon be bankrupt

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 Рік тому +75

    Actually you use MORE fuel in a lower gear because the revs are higher. This woman is completely clueless.

    • @Aeronaut1975
      @Aeronaut1975 Рік тому +3

      Not only that, but if it takes everyone longer to complete their journeys, there will be more cars on the road at the same time... driving up pollution...

  • @ciupak7932
    @ciupak7932 Рік тому +81

    Roads are NOT playgrounds for pedestrians or kids...
    More of those ridiculous policies please .....and far right politics will come to light.

    • @rongablue
      @rongablue Рік тому +4

      Nor are they Death Traps for pedestrians or kids!

    • @ciupak7932
      @ciupak7932 Рік тому +1

      @@rongablue traps ???
      ha bloody ha

    • @williamc6564
      @williamc6564 Рік тому +2

      More slides and swings to complete children's playground at those roundabouts on junctions and slip roads will be next thing Anna promotes to act as traffic calming😂😂

    • @wayneparkinson4558
      @wayneparkinson4558 Рік тому +1

      We live in a nanny state whether we like it or not and it will only get worse in the long run because of a few citizens who think they are the law on the roads .its parental control which is the real issue and understanding boundaries ,laws and sticking to them then new laws wouldn't need to be set?

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      Residential streets absolutely are playgrounds - it's where neighbourhood children meet and interact. Those streets should be built to force low speeds on drivers. On the collector and arterial routes, movement must be prioritised and 20 limits would be silly. Town centres are places for people on foot, cars must move slowly there so 20 is the right limit there.

  • @DOCTORDROTT
    @DOCTORDROTT Рік тому +51

    Because of Drakefords inaction in improving the M4 its putting off companies coming to Wales . The WAG wastes money, they bought the Cardiff Airport and most Welsh people fly from Bristol ! better choice and cheaper. Everything the assembly touches turns to crap

    • @joso7228
      @joso7228 Рік тому

      Yeah try getting to Cardiff Airport from Swansea - you are practically driving through farmer's fields.

    • @hugodrax71
      @hugodrax71 Рік тому

      He's put a stop on building any new roads, not just the M4 relief road. Wales is actually the biggest deterrent to voting Labour. A total shitshow here.

  • @luisluis5306
    @luisluis5306 Рік тому +94

    We need normal sane people protesting across the country and standing for parliament.

    • @Terence-zb5cb
      @Terence-zb5cb Рік тому +6

      riots outside this woman's home

    • @muhammaduddin9268
      @muhammaduddin9268 Рік тому +4

      Well said.

    • @bitsnbobsbobsnbits368
      @bitsnbobsbobsnbits368 Рік тому

      Even the police don’t like it, at the end of the day they have to do it as well. Not the police is fault, they are gonna hate it just like us, it’s the Dickson government that do t live in the real world that think it’s ok. Anna you don’t drive at all, who could not pass your test, everyone has just told you, by the way 21 mph over the speed limit and your fined, so your doing 18 mph on reality, the people that are not driving are the ones that are not working so it does not bother them at all. She said it. That’s so fair 🎉

  • @demonhighwayman9403
    @demonhighwayman9403 Рік тому +71

    Cars are not configured to go that speed in any gear, people will be constantly shifting between 2nd and 3rd gears -emissions will go up. That woman is wrong about reducing brake wear as you will constantly be on the brakes.. and clutch, trying to stay at such a stupid limit. I live in France now and driving through villages these days you get a lot of 30kph limits (30kph being similar to 20mph) so I know how frustrating they are.

    • @kjp1232
      @kjp1232 Рік тому

      It's to rob millions more in speeding tickets

    • @mosheridan7016
      @mosheridan7016 Рік тому

      Don't worry then they will take your cars away

    • @hectichazerdus
      @hectichazerdus Рік тому

      Lool 20mph in second gear is literally a petrol guzzler and high revs so more emissions.
      Since the masks and lockdowns have the sheep still not woke up

  • @jeffp5162
    @jeffp5162 Рік тому +55

    It’s about time people started using eco-terrorists tactics by destroying speed cameras, 20mph is absolutely crazy.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому +1

      In the areas that they apply 20 limits to, it's absolutely necessary. Look at the stats ref risk of injury and survival rate for people hit by drivers in urban areas, then say that again - if you can.

    • @leighton5034
      @leighton5034 Рік тому +1

      Jeff I've no doubt whatsoever they will

    • @Realpoweronearth
      @Realpoweronearth Рік тому

      ​@@TheTraveller20081 sorry that doesn't wash in some built up areas maybe but 20mph limits do not cut pollution

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      @@Realpoweronearth low limits in urban areas aren't about pollution, they're specifically about reducing crashes, and reducing injuries in crashes.
      That said, when drivers maintain a constant low speed there's no reason that pollution would be increased. It's only when lead-footed drivers hoof it from one speed-controlling device to the next and then brake hard that pollution (tailpipe and noise) are increased.

  • @brianpotter3870
    @brianpotter3870 Рік тому +33

    Poor driving causes accidents not speed, she should patrol around a few schools to witness the shocking driving manoeuvres of some parents dropping off their little darlings, it’s an eye opener.

    • @vampire__uk
      @vampire__uk Рік тому +4

      True Story

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      Speed kills, distracted driving kills. Car dependency kills.

    • @MDM1992
      @MDM1992 Рік тому

      ​@@catlerbattyonly one of those is true.

  • @birgittabirgersdatter8082
    @birgittabirgersdatter8082 Рік тому +112

    Wouldn’t it be more effective to teach children how to safely cross the road? In my day road safety was taken seriously and people were taught to take personal responsibility rather than making your safety someone else’s problem.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому +3

      I'll turn your last sentence around: drivers must be taught to take personal responsibility for not harming others rather than making the risk that they pose someone else's problem.
      In every field of human activity, responsibility for the safety of others is placed squarely on the person operating the machine that has the capacity to cause harm. Why, uniquely, should car operators get a free pass on that, with everyone else being made responsible for not being harmed by the machine operator? Yes, teach children to be aware of how to use the streets, but drivers must carry the responsibility for not hitting people.

    • @birgittabirgersdatter8082
      @birgittabirgersdatter8082 Рік тому +11

      @@TheTraveller20081 cars are on the roads which was designed for them, if a pedestrian wants to cross the road, they need to take care, because the roads are for cars. Drivers do not get a free pass, but then why should a pedestrian get a free pass and put the responsibility on the driver when the pedestrian steps out in front of them?

    • @thehazelnutspread
      @thehazelnutspread Рік тому

      Safety and the environment are NOT the point. They are just the EXCUSE to get us to not drive by inconveniencing us and bankrupting us with fines and fees.

    • @Make_Boxing_Great_Again
      @Make_Boxing_Great_Again Рік тому +7

      @@TheTraveller20081We don’t let kids play on train tracks so why should they play on roads? Pedestrians do not respect the road enough and unfortunately that seems to be a British culture thing and it’s getting worse. In many countries there is a crime called J walking which is when a pedestrian illegally endangers themself by walking on the road in an illegal way. No such law exists here, in fact pedestrians have right of way in all circumstances. Which frankly is absurd, dangerous, and an inefficient way to manage risk / reward.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      @@Make_Boxing_Great_Again you clearly don't even know the history of what you promote: what you call 'J walking' is actually only in American law as 'jaywalking'. It's a term that was invented by the US oil industry specifically to denigrate the concept of being a pedestrian, because 'jay' was an American term meaning 'someone from the country, not familiar with big city ways'. They supposedly wandered around like the American jay-bird does, unaware of their surroundings. Prior to that (incredibly successful) campaign, people had the right of way everywhere - and the oilmen wanted them cleared out so that their new toy, the motorcar, could claim the god-like status that it now has in our urban environment.
      In US law, they did indeed rule that people must only cross roads at marked crossing points. Sadly, drivers don't give a shit even at most of those, given the rate at which they mow people down over there.
      People walking on the streets are very self-aware, for the simple purpose of self-preservation. Drivers have decided collectively that the motor vehicles are the only piece of lethal machinery that should be operated without any responsibility not to harm people not involved with using the machine. Luckily - and quite properly - there's no British equivalent of the US law on 'jaywalking', or to give it its proper name 'crossing the road'. We can cross anywhere that we feel it's safe. Recognising that humans make mistakes, it's up to those operating the killer machines to be responsible enough to drive them in a way that won't kill someone who makes a mistake.
      To your point about children playing: no-one suggests that they should be able to play on the A1- even on the A2985 - but in residential streets it's absolutely right that children should be able to interact with each other around their own neighbourhood; and be able to walk to school, to the shops, to the park without their parents being terrified to let them out of their sight.

  • @WayneOnCars
    @WayneOnCars Рік тому +27

    When there is a 20mph you will
    Spend more time looking at your speedometer than looking at the road.

  • @stg_69
    @stg_69 Рік тому +35

    Please stop this madness ... anyone ... ASAP ... please

    • @hectichazerdus
      @hectichazerdus Рік тому

      Its literally a desperate cry for help at this point. We need the robin hoods to be out in full force. Revolution is needed as this has gone too far

  • @peterhowe4952
    @peterhowe4952 Рік тому +34

    20 miles per hour do they not realise that in a lower gear to go at 20 miles per hr you are reving your engine higher revs and using more fuel

    • @gary63693
      @gary63693 Рік тому

      Just stop oil will love this. lol

  • @398paul
    @398paul Рік тому +52

    Speed limiters in vehicles ?? What an earth is she on about??

    • @wayneparkinson4558
      @wayneparkinson4558 Рік тому +1

      I remember they used to have speed limiters until top gear got going?

    • @ONYX-365
      @ONYX-365 Рік тому +2

      In July all new cars will have to be fitted with speed limiters

    • @freshtoast3879
      @freshtoast3879 Рік тому +2

      ​@@ONYX-365 what's maximum

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому +1

      well, given how many drivers prove every day that they're incapable of sticking below limits, one day they'll introduce electronic limiters. Shit drivers will have brought it upon all of us.

    • @MDM1992
      @MDM1992 Рік тому

      She just let their next mandatory thing to be imposed on the public slip..

  • @hertzvanrental100
    @hertzvanrental100 Рік тому +25

    its ok shes welsh and what a strange woman. Obviously a non driver

    • @hectichazerdus
      @hectichazerdus Рік тому

      She has chauffeur and all day to gaze out of the window at the welsh mountains and sheep

  • @stratfordbaby
    @stratfordbaby Рік тому +75

    It's not only that the limits are too low but the margin for leniency for going over the limit is 1mph or less. It's ridiculous all around.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      no it's not - the margin is always 10%+2, so in a 20 it's 23.

    • @jeffreyroberts7438
      @jeffreyroberts7438 Рік тому

      @@TheTraveller20081 actually your wrong, according to the trainer on speed awareness classes, there is NO margin!

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      @jeffreyroberts7438 interesting. I've not driven badly enough to be sent on one of those so I'll have to believe you!

  • @iancampbell6925
    @iancampbell6925 Рік тому +15

    It will use more fuel and pollution, increase taxi fares and delivery charges increase congestion and will mean drivers focusing on their speedometers rather than on the road.

  • @judyhayward6291
    @judyhayward6291 Рік тому +18

    Has this lady ever travelled north of Cardiff? Wales, despite what the Senedd might think, is mostly rural. It takes several hours to travel from north to south at a reasonable speed. At 20mph?

  • @johnryan-he2ru
    @johnryan-he2ru Рік тому +16

    It`s all about stealing even more money out of the motorists pocket , pure and simple.

    • @hugodrax71
      @hugodrax71 Рік тому

      It is. People in Cardiff are getting done for doing 23mph by mobile speed cameras.

  • @lisafarr2317
    @lisafarr2317 Рік тому +36

    That woman is insane. It does not use less fuel nor does it help the environment. Restrictions outside schools is the only useful place for 20mph. Hrs longer on the road to get to and from work. Wales wasting money on projects that sound like accidents waiting to happen while the pot holes multiply.

    • @michaelthomas3646
      @michaelthomas3646 Рік тому

      I agree, but most school zones have speed ramps to try to slow down traffic, but they just speed up in the gap between the humps. while on the other hand, it will reduce the number of pot holes after speed humps, and other pot holes, as cars won't litterally takeoff, and then land harder after a pot hole, that is why the Welsh government are after imposing a stricter speed limit rather than repairing our roads, so not so many cars are taking off and causing more potholes.

    • @lisafarr2317
      @lisafarr2317 Рік тому

      @@michaelthomas3646 our 1 school was built in a good location with ample parking. Some of the roads leading to it are dreadful, the road we have to drive over to leave our home is one of the worst I've seen. Been like it for years and our 1st minister prefers to waste money on female sanitary products in men's conveniences, teaching young children unsuitable sexual matters and loads of other woke rot. Not forgetting removing books that are apparently unsuitable. All this nonsense has countless meetings to discuss this and it comes from the the taxpayer.

  • @davidc9533
    @davidc9533 Рік тому +28

    I hope no-one ever suggests to that standing joke and bunch of loonies the “Welsh Assembly Government” that every vehicle should be preceded by a person on foot waving a red flag..... Hence the saying “If you think voting labour is a good idea, try living in Wales”

    • @johnandmargaretjones9532
      @johnandmargaretjones9532 Рік тому

      Absolutely right

    • @yasi4877
      @yasi4877 Рік тому

      Same in Victoria, Australia. It's a state of dystopian madness there run by a Stalinist who still wants to jab everyone. Of course he is operating to instructions!

  • @Coopz1969
    @Coopz1969 Рік тому +65

    Nigel is correct 20mph would use more fuel lol she's not got a clue

    • @disaffectedmale
      @disaffectedmale Рік тому

      It's pretty clear to me she's a non driver so she literally wouldn't have a clue. She probably doesn't know how electricity comes out of a socket either. She does know how to trowel the make up on like coco the clown though.

    • @muhammaduddin9268
      @muhammaduddin9268 Рік тому +3

      Of course.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      Back to school physics class for you. 20mph in 3rd will use less than travelling at 30 in 4th. Drag of all kinds goes up with the square of the velocity.

    • @Coopz1969
      @Coopz1969 Рік тому +3

      @@TheTraveller20081 they'd probably not even get out of 2nd gear

    • @Coopz1969
      @Coopz1969 Рік тому

      @@TheTraveller20081 plus who the f*ck are you to judge my intelligence🔔🔚

  • @amazer747
    @amazer747 Рік тому +46

    If 20mph is so much safer than 30mph, why not go the whole hog and have 10mph limit? This is once again becoming a mass non-compliance issue.

    • @frdsg8350
      @frdsg8350 Рік тому

      Their goal is 0mph aka you dont own a car, because its 'killing the planet '. Nut jobs.

    • @peace-now
      @peace-now Рік тому

      The idea is to try to get motorists to go 30mph, not 40mph. People will always travel faster than the limit. In cities, where 30mph applies, many motorists travel at evn 45mph. It is too fast with cycles and pedestrians crossing. A person hit at 45mph will probably not survive, whereas the can survive 30mph.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      because between 10 and 20 mph the risk is not that different, so there's no point. At 20 most people survive collisions, and drivers have plenty of time to react and to avoid the collision in the first place. Think how quickly your car stops from 20 - the risk of any collision is tiny. Lowering limits to 10 makes next to no difference.
      From 30 to 20 the reduction is risk is comparatively huge, so that change is very logical in areas with high pedestrian traffic.

    • @hugodrax71
      @hugodrax71 Рік тому

      @@TheTraveller20081 You're more likely to survive a fall while walking on the ground than you are if you're 30,000 ft in the air so let's ban aeroplanes.

    • @andrewhubbard4044
      @andrewhubbard4044 Рік тому +1

      Let's bring back HORSE and CART what BACKWARD thinking

  • @user-ho8ds7my7l
    @user-ho8ds7my7l Рік тому +9

    I live in Wales. I was driving down the street and I seen my mate dai. I stopped and said dai do you want a lift. He said no thanks I'm in a hurry

  • @diane4488
    @diane4488 Рік тому +57

    That woman is mad. The most cost effective speed, is around 40-45 miles per hour.
    Like Nigel said, 20 miles per hour, in 2nd gear, uses much more fuel.
    That woman is also nuts, talking about speed limiters in cars. They are set manually, as you are driving. So having the same speed limit, 24hrs a day, doesn't make any difference, to the car!

    • @HowardKlein1958
      @HowardKlein1958 Рік тому +2

      Yep, fruit loop. Must annoying living near her going at 20mph going everywhere, but wait... I guarantee she travels over 20, whether driving or as a passenger.

    • @disaffectedmale
      @disaffectedmale Рік тому

      @@HowardKlein1958 I guarantee this muppet in 200 pounds of makeup does not drive. She's happy to push this because it doesn't affect her.

    • @robg521
      @robg521 Рік тому

      The only thing that this woman does all day is to sit at home drinking tea and coffee while having meetings by talking on video conference calls.
      If she doesn’t need to drive a car for her work why the hell would she understand what anyone else would need a car for?
      [She is an absolute F#%*whit].

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      wrong - 15 years ago my car would do 45mpg at 70; 60 at 60; 80 at 50 and 120mpg at a steady 30mph (all from the trip computer's 'instant' efficiency reading). That doesn't mean that I went everywhere at 30, but it does prove that lower speeds don't automatically mean burning more fuel.
      If you're using 2nd at 20, you're a bad driver. 3rd will be fine most of the time. Many automatics these days come with 7, even 8 gears, so they'll pick the lowest-load ratio easily. And EVs don't care at all.

    • @robg521
      @robg521 Рік тому

      In 2009 my manual 2Ltr diesel Ford mondeo company car would do 60MPG at a steady 60MPH on the motorway because you could get into top gear and cruise at low RPM and just keep it rolling. [I once got it up to nearly 70MPG by doing 56MPH all the way in top gear at very low revs]
      In the city with everything being a 30MPH limit I was was getting about 26MPG because it is start stop journeys and you have to keep using higher revs of the engine to get it moving again.
      I was averaging 34MPG overall on motorways, B roads and city roads combined. [fully loaded with engineers tools & instruments]
      In 2013 I then got a Qasqai with a 1.6Ltr diesel engine and all of the MPG results were much lower and worse all round, because I was carrying the same weight of kit and the smaller engine had to rev the engine higher to carry the same load.
      I now drive a 2Ltr diesel automatic discovery sport [fully loaded same as above].
      Because it is an automatic I cannot get the MPG as high as the old mondeo on the motorway because the gearbox changes the gears down automatically when you slow down, so going slower on the motorway doesn’t increase the MPG because you cannot force it into a high gear with low RPM.
      On the motorway I am getting about 47MPG if I’m lucky, around town I am getting between 24 and 28MPG, and overall [city, B roads and motorway combined] I am getting between 34 and 38MPG.
      I am doing about 50% motorways, 35% B Roads, 10% city at less than 30PMH, and 5% city at less than 20MPH [averaging around 36MPG overall]
      My conclusion… because I carry a lot of tools and test equipment to do my job a bigger car with a bigger engine can sometimes be more efficient at higher speeds, you need the power to get going and then you can cruise at the optimum speed for the best MPG. [I work all over the south of England so do a lot of higher speed mileage]
      Conversely at slow speeds in the city the engine is constantly labouring the get the momentum going because you are doing start stop type journey through the traffic and junctions.
      making my car crawl around a 20MPH forces it into it’s most least efficient mode. So for me it is more efficient if I can keep the 20MPH sections of the journey to a minimum.

  • @BionicRusty
    @BionicRusty Рік тому +23

    She’s lying.
    Vehicles are NOT more efficient at 20mph. In fact it will contribute to engine wear.
    Also, let’s not forget that 20mph is the limit. Many will drive ≥5mph below that limit.

    • @michaelthomas3646
      @michaelthomas3646 Рік тому

      not to mention those 15 above the speed limit that others will drive at anyway, or 25mph above when the new law comes in. even seen people doing closer to 70 in a 30 limit, admittedly boy racers.

    • @hugodrax71
      @hugodrax71 Рік тому +1

      And you'll be spending more time looking at your speedometer making sure you don't exceed 20mph than studying the road!!!

    • @yesman2755
      @yesman2755 Рік тому +3

      Agree. Elderly people in Wales are terrified of the traffic cops and the “Arrive Alive” vans hiding round corners so they already drive well below the 30 mph limit. Expect these drivers to now do 15 mph in 2nd gear whilst other road users queue behind them or attempt to make dangerous overtaking manoeuvres. Safer roads ? No way, frustration and anger whilst driving a car is going to cause casualties.

    • @Realpoweronearth
      @Realpoweronearth Рік тому

      ​@@hugodrax71absolutely right 😮

  • @GrrMeister
    @GrrMeister Рік тому +29

    Anna Semlyen, campaigns manager, said there was a "huge number of reasons" for cutting from 30mph to 20mph (48km/h to 32km/h) in built-up areas. She said the Welsh Government needed to "listen to their own public health directors".She added: "The health economics are absolutely clear. It's recommended by the World Health Organisation... by the Association of Public Directors of Public Health.Anybody in health says it's a good idea so, Wales, you need to get on with it." *Nutty as a Fruit cake and this is what you get after Covid Control !*

    • @joso7228
      @joso7228 Рік тому

      "Save 12,000 injuries" my ass

    • @yasi4877
      @yasi4877 Рік тому

      WHO = WEF

    • @andrewhubbard4044
      @andrewhubbard4044 11 місяців тому +1

      The made reason is generate CASH in fines for the local authority

  • @songscoops4205
    @songscoops4205 Рік тому +8

    Welsh Labour are dreadful but it's all about power....27% of children in Wales are living in relative income poverty...do something about that..

  • @dlpjhapppy9714
    @dlpjhapppy9714 Рік тому +13

    Cars don't run efficiently at 20mph, the lower the gear the more fuel you use. It's nothing more than another tax on drivers.

  • @TwistedTiara
    @TwistedTiara Рік тому +14

    What planet is this woman on?

    • @amazer747
      @amazer747 Рік тому

      Mars is for blokes, Venus is for idiots.

    • @muhammaduddin9268
      @muhammaduddin9268 Рік тому +3

      Mars.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      What planet are you on thinking its okay to drive cars inside cities at full speed?

  • @mste456
    @mste456 Рік тому +24

    they did this in the Scottish borders and it was absolutely brutal especially for the wagons and other large vehicles. was soon scraped as the locals ignored the limit, while visitors who didn't know otherwise stuck to it

  • @securityrobot
    @securityrobot Рік тому +75

    If the authorities want to save Children’s lives then start by educating them about road safety, a Green Cross Code campaign has merit and worth - it was good enough for generations past.

    • @wayneparkinson4558
      @wayneparkinson4558 Рік тому +2

      Understanding rules and boundaries starts at home and the lollypop person shows the way to school. but the first rule is to watch your speed when in a pedestrian zone then we all can except the rules set down

    • @Margaret-hs3zb
      @Margaret-hs3zb Рік тому

      Cos I won't be there when you cross the road. 😊 The little Tufty squirrel knew how to cross the road,. I watch the old adverts on safety , some that should never be left in the past.

    • @wayneparkinson4558
      @wayneparkinson4558 Рік тому

      @@Margaret-hs3zb Tell that to the hedgehog who like a low pace crossing the road splat?

    • @Margaret-hs3zb
      @Margaret-hs3zb Рік тому

      @@wayneparkinson4558 🥺

    • @MDM1992
      @MDM1992 Рік тому

      Stop, look, and listen always worked.. none of us got mowed down by cars and we played football etc on 40mph roads almost daily.. those cameras will be getting destroyed. We all said no to this, we did not consent, so we will not comply.

  • @ONYX-365
    @ONYX-365 Рік тому +9

    I tried to sign the petition to scrap the 20mph speed limit but the site kept crashing.
    I tried ~5 times before I gave up.
    I suggest A LOT more people wanted to sign but couldn't / weren't counted!

    • @michaelthomas3646
      @michaelthomas3646 Рік тому

      from what I seen with my local council was voting for which roads should remain 30mph. and because so many different areas within a 5 mile radious of my home, then became pointless, I did look for a mass petition for Wales to sign.

  • @DOCTORDROTT
    @DOCTORDROTT Рік тому +22

    Its 50mph on the A470 You have do drop a gear or two = higher engine revs = more pollution, that woman has not a clue . You can't do 20 mph up valley hills anyway lol Perhaps more people could walk to school

    • @jamesm875
      @jamesm875 Рік тому

      Try driving from Perth to Inverness in a Van up the A9 . 111 miles and average speed cameras all the way and you are restricted to 50mph.

    • @simonjones2240
      @simonjones2240 Рік тому

      To be fair with the standard of driving in Scotland 50mph is breakneck speed!

    • @jamesm875
      @jamesm875 Рік тому

      @@simonjones2240 Ummmmm we pass the same test as the rest of the UK. If you see bad driving up here it is usually our Southern cousins or European cousins as they can not handle anything that is not wide and straight 😁

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      Lower speeds dont cause pollution, stop spreading lies

  • @kruger-3522
    @kruger-3522 Рік тому +15

    The thing is they don't teach the green cross code anymore and there is no Tufty, if kids learnt more about road safety they would stay safe!!!!!!

  • @lisafarr2317
    @lisafarr2317 Рік тому +13

    As usual no one was asked

    • @drewwilliams6888
      @drewwilliams6888 Рік тому +3

      Too right, should have spent money on potholes.

    • @lisafarr2317
      @lisafarr2317 Рік тому

      @@drewwilliams6888 Wales is in a mess, Drakeford and his dreglets take it upon themselves to blatantly waste, as if its their own toy money to play with, they loaded the gents lavs with sanitary products. To discuss that pointless matter cost money, they deem it a waste to spend it on poverty, hunger, and homelessness.

    • @muhammaduddin9268
      @muhammaduddin9268 Рік тому +2

      Well said.

  • @philipwilkes2780
    @philipwilkes2780 Рік тому +6

    20 mph is ludicrous, I’m not interested in it being greener either! What utter rubbish she spouts.

  • @birgittabirgersdatter8082
    @birgittabirgersdatter8082 Рік тому +10

    Are there no sensible grown ups in the UK? Seems to me that everyone is being infantilised. The UK is a serious nanny state. Any freedoms left?

    • @michaelthomas3646
      @michaelthomas3646 Рік тому +1

      there is sensible adults in the UK, but none in the EU parliment, or in the UK governments.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      Go to the usa for "muh freedumbs" 🤡

  • @DingBatSplat
    @DingBatSplat Рік тому +14

    I've an idea, if it's so much better for safety and the environment to go slower, lets take it down to 4 mph and have a man with a red flag walk in front of all vehicles!

  • @drewwilliams6888
    @drewwilliams6888 Рік тому +16

    We might as well go back to horse and cart.

    • @veryhappychappy12
      @veryhappychappy12 Рік тому +2

      Here in Drakeys Wales that's the idea......

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      Drivers when theyre asked to observe slow speeds: HORSES AND CARTS! THE SKY IS FALLING 🤡

    • @andrewhubbard4044
      @andrewhubbard4044 Рік тому +1

      This is why the economy is DYING

  • @paulturner2379
    @paulturner2379 Рік тому +3

    Absolute bonkers!... 20mp speed limit causes more climate issues

  • @jasonwelsh5986
    @jasonwelsh5986 Рік тому +14

    There was a car Doing 20 mph in a 20 limit a cyclist overtook them. Cyclist speeding is Dangerous

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому +1

      Yeah a light weight bike is more dangerous than a tank. What grade did you drop out in school again?

    • @philjones6054
      @philjones6054 Рік тому

      When you get hit by a bike whilst walking along the pavement, YES they are dangerous.
      Cyclists are one of the biggest dangers to pedestrians as I've found out ON A PAVEMENT.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      @@philjones6054 Your made up anecdotes vs the recorded millions of traffic deaths and countless life changing/disabling injuries caused by cars...hmmm who to believe 🤔

    • @ruairievans
      @ruairievans Рік тому

      ​@@catlerbattyyou can learn more out of school than in school.
      Cycling very quickly if you're not careful can hurt someone or yourself.

    • @andrewhubbard4044
      @andrewhubbard4044 Рік тому +1

      Some of these E bikes can do 40mph

  • @geraldabeyawardena5606
    @geraldabeyawardena5606 Рік тому +14

    Can't have the people deciding this. They have much more intelligent elected and non-elected 'representatives' to do it for them. What about cycles going faster than 20 mph, especially electric bikes?

    • @MDM1992
      @MDM1992 Рік тому

      I could literally go faster than 20mph on my 20 inch wheeled single speed bmx as a kid.. this is absolutely fucking insane

  • @thegoldenpanther6986
    @thegoldenpanther6986 Рік тому +3

    That woman is absolutely clueless.

  • @joso7228
    @joso7228 Рік тому +7

    I practiced going 20MPH today. Crawling! It felt like you can walk faster.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      Then walk stop complaining. You want 500kmh speeds inside a public space? People racing and braking hard at every corner? Get outta here.

  • @Zzyzzyx
    @Zzyzzyx Рік тому +5

    Super low speeds do *not* save gas. She's wrong.

  • @tomhollandroberts1737
    @tomhollandroberts1737 Рік тому +1

    Far better if Drakeford did away with his bonkers 20 mph rubbish and bring out a law
    to stop child molesters hanging around schools!!

  • @El.Cid17
    @El.Cid17 Рік тому +15

    Have they ever thought of keeping the kid's off the road's.

    • @wayneparkinson4558
      @wayneparkinson4558 Рік тому

      Kids migrate to roads when there's no ball game areas to play on ,and not every house and flat as a garden so roads are the play ground for some when you pass through a area for the first time that's when bad things happen to children at play?

    • @El.Cid17
      @El.Cid17 Рік тому +4

      ​@@wayneparkinson4558 Roads are not playgrounds, and are actually paid for by motorists.

    • @wayneparkinson4558
      @wayneparkinson4558 Рік тому

      @@El.Cid17 Hell cid have a heart kids don't understand politics ,road laws they run free of boundaries when there is no playground to be had. mybe a few more green spaces are needed in our towns and cities and less mad drivers who spoil it for the rest?

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      @@El.Cid17 Roads arent paid for by motorists who told you that lie, or did you make that fantasy up in your mind? They're paid by everyone who has a taxable income. Not only that, roads arent exclusive to cars. Everyone has the right to use it, including children and seniors.

    • @El.Cid17
      @El.Cid17 Рік тому

      @@catlerbatty 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @HeathenGeek
    @HeathenGeek Рік тому +2

    20 miles per hour? these are the fkng people who had you locked in your home for the best part of 3 years! These are the people who will choose to lock you in you home again because it's 'for the greater good'. This is punitive. This is about causing harm to people who choose to driver motor vehicles. If what you want is to prevent those 12,000 'predicted' injuries, they educating those who are likely to be injured will have a bigger impact than raking cash in from drivers. TEACH people not to stare down at their phones when crossing a road. TEACH people HOW to behave when walking on a road, because there are a lot of people who believe they are 'entitled' to just walk on the road while staring at their phone without anything happening to them.

  • @trustnuffin9121
    @trustnuffin9121 Рік тому +3

    WEF moving fast now
    wakey wakey ppl

  • @BIGGGESTAL
    @BIGGGESTAL Рік тому +4

    She's just loopy and will not listen to facts.

  • @flashman2
    @flashman2 Рік тому +6

    They want you banned from driving

  • @williamc6564
    @williamc6564 Рік тому +18

    I'm with Anna. It is a disgrace these kids out on Welsh motorways at 2:00am playing chicken. The speed limit should be 5 mph max and in neutral gear to save on CO2 emissions.

    • @wayneparkinson4558
      @wayneparkinson4558 Рік тому +1

      We never seem to be able to find a balance no matter what ?

  • @mpe555
    @mpe555 Рік тому +6

    This woman needs a psychiartrist!!!!!!!

  • @Vespa123
    @Vespa123 Рік тому +5

    shes cleary 'tarded

  • @MrAndyblue52
    @MrAndyblue52 Рік тому +9

    It's so they can catch the 🐑

  • @colonel_klunk4080
    @colonel_klunk4080 Рік тому +9

    These speed limits will be ignored

    • @amazer747
      @amazer747 Рік тому +3

      Except by the police who need the revenue.

    • @malteeaser101
      @malteeaser101 Рік тому +1

      ​@@amazer747
      You can go several months without seeing a police car. If they abducted them all tomorrow, it would take a very long time before I'd ever notice

    • @andrewhubbard4044
      @andrewhubbard4044 11 місяців тому +1

      Ignored until they have fined your pockets empty

  • @aap112
    @aap112 Рік тому +2

    There has already been a 20mph speed limit sign installed near my house, I'm not used to going 20mph so I was looking at my speedometer to make sure I was at the right speed and didn't see a car coming round the bend, had to slam on my brakes in order to let it pass as he had the right of way. And yes some of you might say I should have been paying attention to the blind bend however I saw a speed enforcement van there last year and was thinking there might be one round the corner. It's a joke, I was paying more attention to my speed which was distracting me from the road!!

  • @Funkydesu
    @Funkydesu Рік тому +1

    Defenders of the 20mph limit continually seek to support it by informing us that being hit by a vehicle at that speed is far less likely to cause serious injury or death. Do they believe this is a recent scientific discovery, and if only town planners would've had access to this amazing fact years ago, they would've instigated it before? No, they had far more sense and knew that 20 mph is ridiculously slow for a car to maintain and that traffic lights, Zebra & Pelican crossings etc are provided for pedestrians to safely cross the road.

  • @goodquestion8064
    @goodquestion8064 Рік тому +3

    She has no idea what she’s talking about .. she was asked to justify it late at night ! She couldn’t

  • @keithgutshall9559
    @keithgutshall9559 Рік тому +5

    I can ride my bike that fast

  • @michaelathanasiou2030
    @michaelathanasiou2030 Рік тому +5

    This is why Labour must never govern, what next ban cars ???????

  • @peteralbertthomas
    @peteralbertthomas Рік тому +3

    It will cost jobs. Because many manufacturers will find 20mph unproductive because of deadlines for orders. We could see WALES becoming uneconomical.

    • @barrysmith7291
      @barrysmith7291 Рік тому

      I don’t think the idiots which are in power care

  • @duncansteward4331
    @duncansteward4331 Рік тому +7

    Greener i wonder -- as it takes 50% more time to travel the same distance. I suspect the next move will be to make it 10mph outside schools and hospitals.

  • @shaunholmes9899
    @shaunholmes9899 Рік тому +3

    definitely not greener 1st gear everywhere

  • @stuartmc18
    @stuartmc18 Рік тому +3

    Then what? 15mph? 10mph? 5mph? Zero?

  • @briantitchener4829
    @briantitchener4829 Рік тому +1

    20 mph will mean MORE pollution not less, because vehicles kept in low gear push out more emissions. You use MORE fuel in 2nd gear than in top gear. The Welsh lady spokesperson is round the twist. Not even logical.

  • @christophercook9745
    @christophercook9745 Рік тому +5

    its all about getting people fed up of driving. simple

  • @EddieGlasgow99
    @EddieGlasgow99 Рік тому +1

    Wow, she clearly sounds like she has no idea what she is talking about.

  • @grahambull5802
    @grahambull5802 Рік тому +1

    So in Wales all the industry will pull out , tourism will end , ferries will not be viable , shops will have no deliveries . So By By Wales , its been nice to know you . Just waiting for masses of Welsh immigrants to move to England .

  • @PeterNorman-xd8tr
    @PeterNorman-xd8tr Рік тому +7

    To reduce speed to 20mph is more of a revenue maker only have to look at how speeding fines have increased in London under the ULEZ scheme, reduce speed around schools to 20 MPH which we have here in Bedfordshire but they have electric signs imposing this when pupils going or leaving school the rest of the time is 30mph.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      Ah yes revenue maker, nothing about saving lives and having a better reaction time + braking distance. Imagine taking a stance against safety of the public. Stop watching gbnews maybe thats a start.

  • @lynnsmith9055
    @lynnsmith9055 Рік тому +1

    How is driving around in a lower gear saving fuel. This is nuts. I do not accept her argument

  • @yesman2755
    @yesman2755 Рік тому +1

    Does this woman even drive ? 20mph puts me in 2nd gear making my engine rev higher therefore polluting more. Older people in Wales are already terrified of the traffic cops in Wales who have a zero tolerance policy on speed so they’re already driving under the limit. Expect these drivers to be doing 15 mph and causing an excessive amount of road rage.

  • @pixelukulele401
    @pixelukulele401 Рік тому +2

    Tourism will be dead. It will take too long to get anywhere. It's just to get rid of cars. Cars driving in 2nd and 3rd will cause the engine to wear out faster. Sack the lot of them.

  • @entropyalwaysincreases.6867
    @entropyalwaysincreases.6867 Рік тому +2

    Speed doesn't kill people. Careless driving as they look at their phones and video chat does kill people. Children running into the road without looking because they haven't been taught about roads and traffic kills kids.

  • @martinbobfrank
    @martinbobfrank Рік тому +6

    I only passed my test four years ago, and my copper brother told me then 'Watch your speed in Wales because they make their money from speeding fines.' It looks like they are ramping that up. I bet the speeding locals will be happy as punch with all those cameras taking their holiday snaps of them.

    • @boatthere867
      @boatthere867 Рік тому

      also the last week of every month

    • @MDM1992
      @MDM1992 Рік тому

      We know where most are and slow down for them then instantly boot it after they aren't everywhere for now.. if they start throwing loads up everywhere they won't last long we won't have it.

  • @flinpin1567
    @flinpin1567 Рік тому +6

    Labour needs to go in wales in some places the 20 miles a hour is going down hill it’s a hard to keep to it down hill

    • @amazer747
      @amazer747 Рік тому +1

      Don't give 'em ideas of where to place the cameras!

  • @TH-bp2cl
    @TH-bp2cl Рік тому +2

    She is wrong 20mph causes more brake ware and the engine does not run as well

  • @Destinationswithdunks
    @Destinationswithdunks Рік тому +1

    Absolute nonsense

  • @Pob2278
    @Pob2278 Рік тому +9

    Someone needs to talk about Manual for Streets! Totally out of date since cars have evolved!

  • @Yanto260272
    @Yanto260272 Рік тому +2

    NO! To 20 MPH

  • @mineyesport1
    @mineyesport1 Рік тому +5

    So we will now be getting overtaken by push bikes.........

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      That hurts your massive drivers ego somehow? Swear to god car owners are entitled pieces of crap.

  • @Markknott29
    @Markknott29 Рік тому +5

    What happened to the Green Cross Code? Is it not taught in schools anymore?
    I assume that tourism brings a lot to Wales, I personally love the place but it would make me think twice about going if speeds were reduced to 20mph.
    I have noticed a huge amount of bikers driving around at high speed on Welsh roads and being an ex-biker myself I can see the attraction as the roads are amazing… it’s a difficult one for sure 🤷🏻

  • @michaelhelbrow7906
    @michaelhelbrow7906 Рік тому +1

    What happens when bus drivers lose there licences getting to work. What happens then. Ludicrous

  • @adrianward7888
    @adrianward7888 Рік тому +1

    Why the minority dictates to the whole?

  • @oldshiny3012
    @oldshiny3012 Рік тому +5

    don't you love virtue signalling hahaha

  • @anthonysmith4826
    @anthonysmith4826 Рік тому +18

    You summed it up Nigel. Bonkers!

  • @keith2073
    @keith2073 Рік тому +2

    Won't this cause more pollution.

  • @maureensheppard4551
    @maureensheppard4551 Рік тому +5

    Anna Semlyen couldn't answer Nigel's question about why we should still drive at 20mph in the very early hours of the morning when no-one is about. Driving at slow speeds for prolonged periods can cause boredom and tiredness. Driving at 20mph will have the car's revs at their maximum before changing up to third gear, so I can't see that there will be less pollution and less fuel used. As Nigel said, it sounds like she is 100% against cars and would rather we all went everywhere on pushbikes or maybe electric scooters. ;-)
    I'll be avoiding Wales if she gets her way.

    • @catlerbatty
      @catlerbatty Рік тому

      People drive faster after midnight. No traffic = invitation for overspeeding, loss of control mixed with occasional drunk driving. Nothing good happens.

  • @DK-pb7tr
    @DK-pb7tr Рік тому +1

    Yes but what do you expect from labour....a warning to the rest of the uk

  • @nameunknown2510
    @nameunknown2510 Рік тому +2

    That's me not going to Wales on holiday anymore

  • @ste20ful
    @ste20ful Рік тому +4

    Yet again more bureaucracy so screw the drivers for money

  • @redhound4889
    @redhound4889 Рік тому +1

    "Its greener, you use less fuel in your vehicle, less pollution". Eight letters begins with b.

  • @Neil-en2ww
    @Neil-en2ww Рік тому +1

    My car does less than 15MPG at 20MPH, whereas at 30 to 40MPH I get at least 30MPG. If that doesn't show the stupidness of this idea I'll never know.

  • @Terence-zb5cb
    @Terence-zb5cb Рік тому +3

    what a lier horrible woman needs to be sacked