Of course, the country has always been run by public school privately educated kiddies. Some one leaves school with a degree in anything and is taken on by local authorities and civil service because it saves them thinking. After all, all you need to get a degree is a super memory, not common sense or experience in anything. If that is not true why are there so many mess-ups in the local authorities and the civil service. Come to Kent to see the mess ups on the white lines, especially the new road markings into new estates. Every time markings are put down they repeat previous mistakes and have to alter them again and again.
@@bbcisrubbishits because this country is progressing backwards and is governed by rules and regulations and not by common sense many of us have and what every new generation seems to have less and less of. I blame a lot on the American disease, sue for anything and everything to the point everyone is afraid to do anything, and technology that has made more people lazy and unable to think for themselves. If we were in a situation like the second world war we would be invaded and conquered before everyone had finished their safety and risk assessments, then probably be told it was too much of risk as someone was likely to get hurt. Its shameful how this country has gone downhill from when I believe new labour got it. Its a disgrace.
Put a goat in a red coat and the people will still vote for it. Or just as bad one of the other mainstream parties who are all the same on every major issue.
How about we save everyone time and money and hold these petitions BEFORE a few people dictate to millions? We are supposed to be a civilised democratic society yet are expected to allow petty dictators like Khan and Drakeford make rules up on a whim and expect us all to obey them. 350,000 have said they don't want to obey them.
It's surely impractical to have a public vote on every issue. If you don't like what your democratically elected government is doing then you can vote against them next time. 0.35m may have signed the petition - 2.8m have not!
@danielrawlings8355 Don't be fooled. The are not stupid, they know exactly what they are doing. The war against the motorist and the steady march towards Communism.
@@bakeredwards Wales is a truly beautiful part of the UK, blighted by a tiny minority of stupid policy makers. Its a great shame a handful spoil the place for the majority.
The crazy thing in Wales is there are arterial roads (B roads) through town & villages that are now 20mph, you can turn off into a single track lane with passing places that are still open speed limit (60mph), no one in their right mind would attempt to drive at 60mph along such a lane but it just goes to show it’s all about control of the population not safety.
I lived in Switzerland and they had variable speed limits outside schools that only applied on school days. Everyone adhered to that because it’s was sensible. Weekends and holidays were standard speed limits… worked a treat
Another big problem with these new 20 mph restrictions is the anger it is causing between motorists, you have the cars travelling at 15-16mph and then you have the ones in a hurry who will tailgate and overtake with total disregard to anyone else! The level of driving standards has dropped drastically since this idiotic introduction and it HAS to be put a stop to!
Never mind history, Drakeford's degree, from a second rate university, is in Latin! Why is it that there's such an incredible shortage of politicians with a maths, science or engineering degree?
jast googled it - of the lot of them con lab and others - 27 have science and technology degrees 15 environment studies and geography 12 engineering and architecture 10 medicine and allied subjects not many!
In the 60's and 70's we had safety offices that would visit school's giving lessons on road safety, how to cross the road, look right, look left, and right again if all clear cross, (without looking at you're phone as is common now) we also had lessons on how to ride your bike safely and there where safety adverts run on both ITV and BBC to show you again how to cross the road these need to be updated and brought back.
Indeed ! Road safety adverts aimed at children, seemed to be everywhere in the fifties and sixties. 'Look right, look left and look right again'. (in the UK anyway!)
In certain areas that the non English that have no sense, Had to have loads of pedestrian crossing installed just so they can cross the road. No road sense, it's not free for all Pakistan or India.
@@johnb3141 I agree. As I understand it the "mandate" for this came from fewer than 10 words in their manifesto. If so, it can hardly have contained much detail or been seen by most voters as an announcement of such a dramatic change in everyone's lifestyle. I'm sure they would have put the matter to a referendum if they had not already known that they would lose it. Of course it's not the first time a government has acted in this way - Edward Heath used a similarly minor element in his manifesto to sign us up the the EEC in 1972 when he knew about 60 to 70% of the electorate were against it at that time. Politicians are not interested in democracy - only power.
OH, but they are not! Ford North America offers a "V8 exhaust-note_ upgrade on its Mach E Mustang "milkfloat"! Guess even EV fan-bois like the sound of a real engine.
Totally agree my daughter works in a hospital and there are two patients on her ward who have been run over by electric cars simply because they could not hear them.
Listen to Quentin carefully. He’s an electric car zealot. He is NOT a friend to the majority of motorists. Anyone who thinks electric cars are better for the environment is living in a fantasy land.
Quentin can’t be described as not biased towards electric vehicles. Ignoring the addition carbon generated in their production just doesn’t work any longer. Not to mention the child/slave labour used to mine the minerals used to produce the batteries.
We had a Prime Minister (Theresa May), who has a Geography degree, say no more. The time has come for every elected representative to have an IQ of 120 or more.
Millions of people with geography degrees have got themselves into positions of power. I work with people who have geography degrees yet their positions should actually require a business degree. But hey, we are where we are …
@@monk3yboy69 One of the Dumbest people I know, has a Geography degree. That person tells people they have a Geometry degree. to embellish their useless Geography degree.
@@monk3yboy69 Are all those folk with geography degrees making a mess of their jobs, or are they doing them well? If the latter, then it illustrates the fact that degrees are an indication of ability to learn and adapt to any job, and not a glorified apprenticeship.
Geography degree here... Geography is a fact based education... The earth is round... Deal with it If you're going to whinge about unqualified people in high office , you might consider lawyers and women's studies... Geographers don't make up their facts
Britain is over populated and to meet our green targets we need a cull. I propose we drive around at max speed and anyone we hit and kill, we get 10 points for. If a person gets 300 points they get a free gallon of petrol, but if within that 300, they take out 10 politicians then get free petrol/diesel for a year. Driving through an illegal migrate camp and wiping out 300 migrates gets you a weeks all expenses paid holiday in Wales where you can aim for certain Welsh MPs to gain extra points that go towards a holiday in NI or Scotland. Don’t knock it, it’s as good a suggestion as the rest of the crap they are coming up with, and unlike current rhubarb, it will solve some of our problems. Now where Drakeford, brum, brum…..
As a Scot I assume you are only talking about the south east of England when you claim we are over crowded ?? Here in Scotland we have 5.3 million people but a third of the Britain's land mass! England on the other hand has a population of 60 million for half the land mass with well over half of them in the south east! Wales taking up the rest!
For Quentin to say there aren't no cameras on motorways is deluded there are loads round here m6 m42 m5 we have speed limits imposed every day but it works well
@@David8n 'Smart' motorways. Yet another STUPID idea thought up by somebody who probably gets chauffeurd to work! Not so 'SMART' when you break down on the inside lane, at night and some eastern european trucker comes belting along at 60mph+, watching tv on his lap top! You can guess what happens next! Oh yes, what a brilliant idea they are, NOT!
@@baylessnow Totally agree. That's why I used the quotes. I used to inspect the structures on the motorways and the 'smart' motorways were a nightmare. They were exponentially more dangerous to do any kind of work on. Plus the security on the gantries was massive, because apparently even the engineering staff couldn't be trusted not to sabotage the speed cameras if left on their own.
Or is it that you should question others standpoints more now people are more "decided", that is that they have a "side", a political and ideological wave has washed this and other countries past few years right, and people are so much more aware, if not as well informed which is understandable, if many things that once just were not on the majorities radar, so you have sense that has facets, like one says one thing is "the way it is", and the others way is standard too. Sense and judgement are much harder to agree with now i think too
You know what happen in the pandemic and the advice the scientists where giving out and the mess that got the country in. It’s also about honesty and trust.
Lets put the indigenous population under house arrest,and bring in thousands of third world aliens who are not even vaccinated for measles let alone COVID !
We did not get any advice from scientists during or pre the plandemic. All we got was the ranting s of those who would benefit greatly from both the vaccine and the PPE! If we had been given good advice then Big pharma would not have needed to get blanket immunity for any harmful side effects!
I remember the Stop, Look and Listen Green Cross Code programmes in the 1990s in Lower/Middle school classes. The police used to come in and present them. They also frequently did railway safety visits and showed videos of accidents. The recent government's have become regressive, putting all pressure and responsibility on the motorists. No wonder the driving standard has gone down hill. Drivers are overloaded and stressed, these lowering speed is going to confound the problem. That is the strategy, make driving and owning a private vehicle prohibitive and miserable. Heating the pan slowly until we wilfully consent to giving up.
Around 46mph in top gear is the most fuel efficient speed. I tested it in 4 cars 1.3 rover25/range rover 4.4 v8 l332/civic type r mk8/volvo c70 2.4t. All 4 optimised around the same speed.
What nobody cares to understand is that the amount of revenue which this will bring is millions. It wont be difficult to go even one mile over the limit and youll get a fine
20 is fine down country lanes and outside schools but it shouldnt be a blanket limit in Wales. I also think it should only apply during daytime hours i.e. 8am - 6pm. Theres very few pedestrians or children strolling around over night and to be forced to do 20 when theres absolutely nobody around is ridiculous. Also what happened to the green cross code for kids? Kids should be taught from an early age how to behave around traffic. They are being brought up to believe they can cross the road whenever and cars should stop for them.
Politicians deciding policy on motor vehicles who commute into London from the burbs by train or live in London. Never use cars and don't drive. What do they care about those who live in the country and are reliant on their cars and don't have public transport. Another example of the total disconnect between politicians and the British public they claim to represent.
How about pedestrians taking responsibility for their own actions by "watching where they are walking" instead of looking at their bloody phones all the time.
When I was young I was taught that roads were for cars and pavements were for pedestrians. I was also taught that before crossing the road I had to watch for cars because they had right of way on the road. It was a simple, logical, hierarchy that follows natural law where the smaller gives way to the larger. As a result, I've never been hit by anything when I've crossed the road. The current 'hierarchy' is completely upside down with various incorrect notions and ideas about safety. Back then kids knew that roads were dangerous and you didn't play on them because a car could suddenly appear, even if it was a very quiet road. Everywhere was 30 MPH and there were even a 40MPH dual carriageway outside a school I went to, yet was seldom a problem. Danger is natural and 'wrapping things up in cotton wool' has proven to either not improve anything or often make matters worse.
In all of these arguments for 20MPH limits they all forget that cars have brakes, they all say would you want your child hit at 20 or 30 how about new cars have good brakes and slow down pretty damn fast, we don't just go driving through people when we see them walk into the road
Nothing new. Barbara Castle, Minister of Transport 1965-1968, never had a driving licence. Electricity is not a fuel, it is an energy storage medium, and it isn't actually efficient. She has lots of cats. Quelle surprise!
It's a money making scheme. When every single bus in London produces zero emissions, I might begin to believe it's about air quality. However, zero emissions is a misnomer because electric vehicles are costly and resource intensive to produce.
Remember when they brought those superslow Bendy Buses into Central London and you got a half mile queue of traffic behind each one??!! You don;t need a Degree to work this stuff out - just Common Sense - 20MPH wont work either.
New 20mph limit on the A329 Little Milton. Cars take longer to pass through the village. All the traffic bunched-up. MORE polluting. It must be hell for the residents.
Speed limits are based upon forward visibility distances and whether there are accesses along the route. If you cant see someone approaching and pull out, can they stop in time? Transport planners are mainly geography students and only know how to get to work (the boss said that!) And they also fudged every speed survey i did, knocking off the counts until they got the result for the planning officer to not be able to object, for the speed of the road and the amount of extra traffic. Theyre all responsible for the speed tables/cushions/humps that emerged and most the time they werent actually needed
And when drivers stop hogging the 3rd Lane on motorways, holding up other users, forcing users to illegally under take. Let’s get back to the proper usage of the lanes. Pull out to overtake only. Then back to your lane. Not sitting in lanes because, you can. Our driving instructors, are to blame, in so many ways.
This all about control and another cash cow as they know their will be many many more speeding fines. Do they still do road safety in schools still if they don’t maybe they should
An automatic car hates 20 mph, constantly braking and releasing more brake particulates into the air. A third longer to get where you are going and a third more exhaust fumes.
There should absolutely not be 20 mph limits on ANY main arterial road, it's totally ridiculous. The only reason the have made 'A' roads 20 is because they are the roads which have nearly all the cameras on them. Say no more! 💰💰💰
Vehicles are less efficient when stopping and starting at lower speeds. 20 mph restrictions imposed on roads with designated pedestrian crossings is totally insane. I would like to know what % of the people making these changes actually use the roads that their stupid ideas are impacting. I have recently seen duel carrageways reduce limits from 40-30 when the road has pedestrian crossings and 60-50 on a major road that has no pedestrian walkways or cycle paths.
Maintaining a speed of 20 miles per hour requires the driver to continuously apply both the brake and gas pedals. The problem arises when the speed hovers around 35-40 mph, with a margin of error of 5 to 10 miles per hour. This condition leads to increased gasoline consumption and at least a 70% rise in MP 2.5 particulate matter, as the brakes are constantly regulating this very narrow margin. Additionally, tire friction against the asphalt (the pushing carpet effect) generates more particulate matter. Increasing cost of infrastructure, maintenance and operation. Implementing a 20-mph speed limit in urban areas with closely spaced street crossings is stupid, regressive, counterproductive, and contradicts established traffic engineering norms. It perpetuates a state of constant acceleration and braking, diminishing the advantages of vehicles thus approaching the serious limitations of bicycles. At that speed it makes no sense to own an automobile…the result of which is catastrophic for human civilization since absolutely all and everything depends on mobility. Governments are imposing regressive measures on their citizens. Politicians often resort to taxation, punishment, and citizen abuse instead of providing solutions. Mobility is the backbone of the global economy; this should not be hard to grasp. Governments rely on oil-related taxes, yet they harm their own sources of revenue. The concept of an 'Unsustainable Mythic Green Transition' goes against the laws of physics, specifically the second law of thermodynamics, which states that true sustainability or net-zero is unattainable. To achieve sustainability, every single input, from individual components to entire systems, must also be sustainable without energy losses. Thermodynamics tells us that this is impossible - it's called 'entropy. Entropy is a thermodynamic measure representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work. It is often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system. The second law of thermodynamics dictates that entropy always increases with time.
EVs are just a flash in the pan. They catch fire and the fire is almost impossible to put out. Insurance companies will get the message. Storing one of these things near a house will void the insurance on it. Ships carrying them will have their insurances voided. Finally the geological nature of lithium deposits will drive the price of the stuff through the roof.
Insurance Companies would have already reacted to that situation if that was true. The Technology is developing like more efficient Batteries and Blue Hydrogen. Why your fascination with Big Oil smelly cars?
I remember back in the 90s a advertisement was on tv. It said take your eyes off the road for one second it could be fatal.? Hence 20 MPH is Dangerous keep looking at your speedo. Also I’m getting so fu..ing board and tired of all this climate ballshit.
Seriously, how many lives are saved? I can tell you now that one life is not worth inflicting this on millions of people. You can't save everyone, and you can't legislate against stupidity.
Why are we allowed to have cars and motorcycles engineered to exceed the national speed limit, by 50 mph or more? When the 70mph was introduced most cars would have been undrivable at over 80mph.
The goal was stated as primarily to get motorists to take to public transport, bikes, or legs for short journeys < 1 mile. Apparently the rest of the ‘benefits’ such as safety, community and pollution support that goal. So, arguments about safety being compromised by people looking at their speedometers or electric vehicles reducing pollution are moot.
Yes, great idea - gets lots of people out in the streets on foot or bicycles, only to be run over by some driver looking at his speedometer instead of the road. I'm guessing they didn't really think it through.
@@bradevans7935 To a man with a hammer, every solution looks like a nail. ‘Think’ and ‘Government’ shouldn’t be in the same sentence. The reason they think it makes sense is that more people walking/cycling is supposed to equal less cost to the Welsh NHS. The problem is that it’s having an NHS with free healthcare that results in a lack of personal responsibility for health - obesity. Drakeford won’t get people out of their cars anyway - 5mph warm driving is still better than 2 mph walking in the sleet and rain. All he will do is reduce visitor numbers and make travel more of a misery than it currently is. He will increase the cost of transport leading to higher living costs and more unhealthy eating.
EXCEPT we got Traffic Jams everywhere. Go to Cardiff and Swansea and see for yourself. So less SAFETY as Ambulances blocked - Less COMMUNITY because everyone is angry and no-ones selling their cars - and more POLLUTION because we are all stuck in Fukin Traffic!
The petition against this ridiculous speed limit has reached 430,000 and that arrogant old woman Drakeford, who is supposed to represent the people of Wales has said that he will not reverse HIS decision regardless of the number who oppose it. "Saving lives" he says, but doesn't mention the impact on health of slower cars who are pumping out more fumes particularly in built up areas. To slow a modern car you have to engage a lower gear which uses more fuel, creates more wear and tear on the engine, not to mention the fact that drivers are spending far too much time looking at their speedometers. Like the 50 MPH on the M4, it does nothing to reduce pollution, or safety, it simply creates havoc with the traffic flow. It's about time the people of Wales spoke with their votes and got rid of any politicians who stand by this dictator.
I am waiting for someone to mention that with the introduction of electric vehicles which are reported to have 30 to 50% extra mass than a comparable ICE car. Do the kinetic energy sums ie 1/2MV^2 they need to take speed down to ensure you are less likely to be seriously injured if hit. However no one wants to mention that in case it impacts the introduction of electric cars. Also reducing emissions yes there maybe less emissions if a exhaust gas analysis is done but the time taken will be longer and it is doing the same amount of work to take that mass from A to B. Then you hear the arguments oh the slower it is the safer it is. So there must be some sort of safety risk assessment available that weighs up risk against an adverse outcome that can be quantified. These are all well developed engineering design principles. That’s why we have ALARP so you can develop safe practices optimising adverse outcomes whilst undertaking any task. Instead we have politicians that develop policy based on social media statement they think are popular so they can virtual signal. Not convinced there is open and clear joined up policy making by people that know what they are doing.
@@vinj-xc3mx I know of one politician that chairs one of these types of committees. When this individual was employed as a general worker at an engineering establishment. He gassed himself with choline mixing incompatible toilet cleaners cleaning the toilets. So like you, my confidence in the people making these decisions is low.
20 mph speed limits is absolutely criminal and murderous. Far fewer people would die on our roads if the limit was 10 mph. Heartless fools like Drakeford have blood on their hands.
70 was invented with drum brakes on an Austin allegro. That car took three weeks to get to that speed. Decent cars these days is just too archaic to their braking systems.
Traffic drives around Cardiff (before 20MPH) quickly like in London. I actually think its just that old man Drakeford couldn't keep up with the traffic pace. So he messed us all up.
I live in the Scottish Borders where the 20mph was introduced. Not a great idea. Get a good supply of brake pads is my advice and brush up on emergency stop procedures. I do agree re close to schools but otherwise 👎👎👎
Dear Sir, I live in the Sutton Surry area and we have a roundabout at Rose Hill, it has 6 roads coming into it. Years ago you entered in the normal way with this type of road junction by flowing in when there was adequate space to do so in a sensible manner. But several years ago traffic lights were installed at the road junctions and on the actual roundabout itself and from then on the traffic became snarled up so much so that at busier times it is actually grid locked, and this no doubt is producing inordinate amounts of pollution. However, twice I have approached this roundabout at rush hour only to find next to no traffic and the answer to this became clear on entering the roundabout, and that is there were no traffic lights working. So it is apparent to me that this along with chicanes where one car has to stop to let the other through, then slightly further on the reverse happens which means constant stopping and starting is deliberately generating pollution and adding to frustrated drivers who are then more libel to make mistakes.
Here in the Highlands we have a village near me ,Castletown, as you go in its clearly marked 30 go round the corner on the lampposts there are now small rounds marked 20 also they've widen the pavement and added priority directional signs
I live and run a haulage business in Wales and Drakeford is a complete joke !!!! He’s absolutely destroying the Welsh economy. I hope the people who voted for him are happy with themselves.
They should indeed raise motorway limits to 85. Modern cars and modern brakes. It wouldn't make me any more or less likely to drive at 90 or 100 personally.
Are they throwing Lee Waters under the bus when practically the whole of the WG voted for this to go ahead. I think most welsh people are happy for 20mph to be in front of schools and hospitals but to have a blanket ban of 20mph all over Wales is ridiculous. And to have 50 mph on our motorways is idiotic too. The WG have run Wales into the ground - losing money hand over fist, bad investments and infantilize the welsh people - lets hope the welsh people are finally waking up and stop blindly voting for the labour. People cannot afford electric cars and the rich politicians don't seem to be getting this.
People who simply don't know what they're presiding over, is endemic in British life.
Of course, the country has always been run by public school privately educated kiddies. Some one leaves school with a degree in anything and is taken on by local authorities and civil service because it saves them thinking. After all, all you need to get a degree is a super memory, not common sense or experience in anything. If that is not true why are there so many mess-ups in the local authorities and the civil service. Come to Kent to see the mess ups on the white lines, especially the new road markings into new estates. Every time markings are put down they repeat previous mistakes and have to alter them again and again.
@@bbcisrubbishits because this country is progressing backwards and is governed by rules and regulations and not by common sense many of us have and what every new generation seems to have less and less of. I blame a lot on the American disease, sue for anything and everything to the point everyone is afraid to do anything, and technology that has made more people lazy and unable to think for themselves. If we were in a situation like the second world war we would be invaded and conquered before everyone had finished their safety and risk assessments, then probably be told it was too much of risk as someone was likely to get hurt. Its shameful how this country has gone downhill from when I believe new labour got it. Its a disgrace.
@@bbcisrubbish Well said and loving the handle (more than rubbish, criminal in my opinion).
The only good thing about Wales 20mph limit is it means the end of the Labour Parties dominance in Welsh government.
Put a goat in a red coat and the people will still vote for it. Or just as bad one of the other mainstream parties who are all the same on every major issue.
They aren’t very bright ! They will still vote Labour !
don't hold your breath. This country is getting thicker & thicker.
AGREE.@@joycegibbs5267
Anybody that votes Labour does it knowing it spells their own demise and that of their family. And they will do it twice! As you see know.
How about we save everyone time and money and hold these petitions BEFORE a few people dictate to millions?
We are supposed to be a civilised democratic society yet are expected to allow petty dictators like Khan and Drakeford make rules up on a whim and expect us all to obey them.
350,000 have said they don't want to obey them.
I don't live in Wales but signed the petition. 😊
I wanted to do that for a anti hunting one is Australia but thought there's probably some law over there etc etc
@@ruthcollins2841Me too. Starts in Wales, winds up everywhere.
It's called "consultation" but if it isn't the answer the politicians want they ignore it.
It's surely impractical to have a public vote on every issue.
If you don't like what your democratically elected government is doing then you can vote against them next time.
0.35m may have signed the petition - 2.8m have not!
Stupid people means you get stupid policies.
@danielrawlings8355 Don't be fooled. The are not stupid, they know exactly what they are doing. The war against the motorist and the steady march towards Communism.
You should clearly move to Wales then!
@@bakeredwards
Wales is a truly beautiful part of the UK, blighted by a tiny minority of stupid policy makers.
Its a great shame a handful spoil the place for the majority.
The crazy thing in Wales is there are arterial roads (B roads) through town & villages that are now 20mph, you can turn off into a single track lane with passing places that are still open speed limit (60mph), no one in their right mind would attempt to drive at 60mph along such a lane but it just goes to show it’s all about control of the population not safety.
I lived in Switzerland and they had variable speed limits outside schools that only applied on school days. Everyone adhered to that because it’s was sensible. Weekends and holidays were standard speed limits… worked a treat
"I don't think we can go with "It's a money making scam"". Of course it is.
He's on the side of those allowed an opinion because it chimes with the agenda. He's a liar.
@@zibbezabba2491I also doubt the currency of his knowledge, seen as he doesn’t think that there are speed cameras on motorways.
I just did 40mph on the M4 for about 10 miles for no fucking reason
Maybe your car is shite
Man cannot live,at such a speed (Bluebottle,The Tellygoons 1962).
30 feels like a crawl. 20 must be painful. The fact that travel speed has reduced by a 3rd is ridiculous.
How did you manage to get up to 40mph, you lucky man!
Another big problem with these new 20 mph restrictions is the anger it is causing between motorists, you have the cars travelling at 15-16mph and then you have the ones in a hurry who will tailgate and overtake with total disregard to anyone else! The level of driving standards has dropped drastically since this idiotic introduction and it HAS to be put a stop to!
Totally agree. But I would say peoples driving standards have been dropping for the last 20 years.
I think they are driving at 15 to prove a point, or not get points. Don't blame the drivers.
Never mind history, Drakeford's degree, from a second rate university, is in Latin! Why is it that there's such an incredible shortage of politicians with a maths, science or engineering degree?
Or common sense.
The problem is that there are too many politicians that have zero life experience. The last thing we need is more university indoctrinated idiots
jast googled it - of the lot of them con lab and others - 27 have science and technology degrees
15 environment studies and geography
12 engineering and architecture
10 medicine and allied subjects
not many!
@@metalworker007
Yet they're all thick as shite with no common sense.
We prefer to do good for the country by providing roads, buildings, schools etc. etc.etc. even cars & commercial vehicles!!
Quentin is talking BS " It's a conspiracy theory" WRONG it's all about raising money yet again from the motorist.
They used to teach children to cross the roads safely instead of giving them idea they can walk straight across roads
In the 60's and 70's we had safety offices that would visit school's giving lessons on road safety, how to cross the road, look right, look left, and right again if all clear cross, (without looking at you're phone as is common now) we also had lessons on how to ride your bike safely and there where safety adverts run on both ITV and BBC to show you again how to cross the road these need to be updated and brought back.
Indeed ! Road safety adverts aimed at children, seemed to be everywhere in the fifties and sixties. 'Look right, look left and look right again'. (in the UK anyway!)
@@paulwilliams5013 The same when I grew up in Australia in the 70's and 80's. Mind-boggling that they don't still do it.
Tufty never had to compete with mobile phone zombies.
In certain areas that the non English that have no sense, Had to have loads of pedestrian crossing installed just so they can cross the road. No road sense, it's not free for all Pakistan or India.
Over 400k now, that's alot of people.
I'm hoping it gets to more than 50% of the population of Wales. That would be difficult for the government to ignore.
@@johnb3141 I agree. As I understand it the "mandate" for this came from fewer than 10 words in their manifesto. If so, it can hardly have contained much detail or been seen by most voters as an announcement of such a dramatic change in everyone's lifestyle. I'm sure they would have put the matter to a referendum if they had not already known that they would lose it.
Of course it's not the first time a government has acted in this way - Edward Heath used a similarly minor element in his manifesto to sign us up the the EEC in 1972 when he knew about 60 to 70% of the electorate were against it at that time.
Politicians are not interested in democracy - only power.
They only polled 1000 people to bring it into force.
@@philipharris7594 Yes, and it looked very like a "Yes Prime Minister" type of opinion poll designed to get the answer they wanted.
Electric cars are dangerous to pedestrians as they are silent.
...and particularly below 20mph!
OH, but they are not! Ford North America offers a "V8 exhaust-note_ upgrade on its Mach E Mustang "milkfloat"! Guess even EV fan-bois like the sound of a real engine.
Totally agree my daughter works in a hospital and there are two patients on her ward who have been run over by electric cars simply because they could not hear them.
I have nearly been run over by electric car at least twice
Try looking when you cross the road.
Listen to Quentin carefully. He’s an electric car zealot. He is NOT a friend to the majority of motorists. Anyone who thinks electric cars are better for the environment is living in a fantasy land.
But they are better as tech improves
he's another one of the elite class.
@@joso7228making a new car does far more damage than driving an older car.
He is being paid to lobby for EVs.
He thinks there are no cameras on motorways?!
Quentin can’t be described as not biased towards electric vehicles. Ignoring the addition carbon generated in their production just doesn’t work any longer. Not to mention the child/slave labour used to mine the minerals used to produce the batteries.
The most carbon clean car is an old car, its already been made.
We had a Prime Minister (Theresa May), who has a Geography degree, say no more. The time has come for every elected representative to have an IQ of 120 or more.
Millions of people with geography degrees have got themselves into positions of power.
I work with people who have geography degrees yet their positions should actually require a business degree.
But hey, we are where we are …
@@monk3yboy69 One of the Dumbest people I know, has a Geography degree. That person tells people they have a Geometry degree. to embellish their useless Geography degree.
@@monk3yboy69 Are all those folk with geography degrees making a mess of their jobs, or are they doing them well? If the latter, then it illustrates the fact that degrees are an indication of ability to learn and adapt to any job, and not a glorified apprenticeship.
Geography degree here... Geography is a fact based education... The earth is round... Deal with it
If you're going to whinge about unqualified people in high office , you might consider lawyers and women's studies... Geographers don't make up their facts
And religion dude, lots of bs there too👍
Britain is over populated and to meet our green targets we need a cull. I propose we drive around at max speed and anyone we hit and kill, we get 10 points for.
If a person gets 300 points they get a free gallon of petrol, but if within that 300, they take out 10 politicians then get free petrol/diesel for a year.
Driving through an illegal migrate camp and wiping out 300 migrates gets you a weeks all expenses paid holiday in Wales where you can aim for certain Welsh MPs to gain extra points that go towards a holiday in NI or Scotland.
Don’t knock it, it’s as good a suggestion as the rest of the crap they are coming up with, and unlike current rhubarb, it will solve some of our problems.
Now where Drakeford, brum, brum…..
Outstanding ! Some Politico or Civil Servant is bound to go for it.
Only 1 gallon of petrol? Nah, I'd expect at least 1 tank full!😊🤣
As a Scot I assume you are only talking about the south east of England when you claim we are over crowded ?? Here in Scotland we have 5.3 million people but a third of the Britain's land mass! England on the other hand has a population of 60 million for half the land mass with well over half of them in the south east! Wales taking up the rest!
Thanks you made me smile .
Funniest thing I've read for a long time.😂
For Quentin to say there aren't no cameras on motorways is deluded there are loads round here m6 m42 m5 we have speed limits imposed every day but it works well
'Smart' motorways around here all have cameras on the variable speed limit gantries.
@@David8n 'Smart' motorways. Yet another STUPID idea thought up by somebody who probably gets chauffeurd to work! Not so 'SMART' when you break down on the inside lane, at night and some eastern european trucker comes belting along at 60mph+, watching tv on his lap top! You can guess what happens next! Oh yes, what a brilliant idea they are, NOT!
@@baylessnow Totally agree. That's why I used the quotes. I used to inspect the structures on the motorways and the 'smart' motorways were a nightmare. They were exponentially more dangerous to do any kind of work on. Plus the security on the gantries was massive, because apparently even the engineering staff couldn't be trusted not to sabotage the speed cameras if left on their own.
@@David8n 'Gotchya'
Common sense is becoming historic
..yes, now it's 'uncommon sense'.
Or is it that you should question others standpoints more now people are more "decided", that is that they have a "side", a political and ideological wave has washed this and other countries past few years right, and people are so much more aware, if not as well informed which is understandable, if many things that once just were not on the majorities radar, so you have sense that has facets, like one says one thing is "the way it is", and the others way is standard too. Sense and judgement are much harder to agree with now i think too
You know what happen in the pandemic and the advice the scientists where giving out and the mess that got the country in. It’s also about honesty and trust.
Lets put the indigenous population under house arrest,and bring in thousands of third world aliens who are not even vaccinated for measles let alone COVID !
We did not get any advice from scientists during or pre the plandemic. All we got was the ranting s of those who would benefit greatly from both the vaccine and the PPE! If we had been given good advice then Big pharma would not have needed to get blanket immunity for any harmful side effects!
who remembers the green cross code? when I was a kid we were taught yo look for cars before walking into the road
I remember the Stop, Look and Listen Green Cross Code programmes in the 1990s in Lower/Middle school classes. The police used to come in and present them. They also frequently did railway safety visits and showed videos of accidents.
The recent government's have become regressive, putting all pressure and responsibility on the motorists. No wonder the driving standard has gone down hill. Drivers are overloaded and stressed, these lowering speed is going to confound the problem.
That is the strategy, make driving and owning a private vehicle prohibitive and miserable. Heating the pan slowly until we wilfully consent to giving up.
If youre so crap at crossing the road that need a 20 limit you shouldnt be out without your carer.
Actually we have cyclists making the rules for motorists and pedestrians.
& cyclists aren't subject to speeding laws.
Its no good having a go at cyclists it should be the other way round as its cars thats holding them up
@@justinformed7367 Hopefully slower moving motorised vehicles will pull over to allow faster cyclists to overtake!
Most adult cyclists also drive cars!
@@JP-hr7ch Don't forget to open your door as they sweep-past!
4:50 slowing people down actually means *more* emissions. Try traveling at 1cm per day and see how many tanks of fuel it takes to travel a mile
Around 46mph in top gear is the most fuel efficient speed. I tested it in 4 cars 1.3 rover25/range rover 4.4 v8 l332/civic type r mk8/volvo c70 2.4t. All 4 optimised around the same speed.
Dear old Quentin, he’s lost his “Barnet” as well as his “marbles”.....
It all makes fuel consumption and pollution even worse, let alone people's temper.
What nobody cares to understand is that the amount of revenue which this will bring is millions. It wont be difficult to go even one mile over the limit and youll get a fine
20 is fine down country lanes and outside schools but it shouldnt be a blanket limit in Wales. I also think it should only apply during daytime hours i.e. 8am - 6pm. Theres very few pedestrians or children strolling around over night and to be forced to do 20 when theres absolutely nobody around is ridiculous. Also what happened to the green cross code for kids? Kids should be taught from an early age how to behave around traffic. They are being brought up to believe they can cross the road whenever and cars should stop for them.
The default built-up area/residential roads speed limit in Australia is 31 mph.
Yes but there is sence in australia ,this is Wales we are talking about.
@@neiltitmus9744 But only for the moment. AUS is frontline for the WEF
It's pretty hard to do 20. It's too slow.
Quintin talking crap as normal stop throughs in electric cars.
20 mph is more of a polluter than doing 30 mph. Is this not obvious.
Politicians deciding policy on motor vehicles who commute into London from the burbs by train or live in London. Never use cars and don't drive. What do they care about those who live in the country and are reliant on their cars and don't have public transport.
Another example of the total disconnect between politicians and the British public they claim to represent.
How many lives are going to be lost due to ambulances/fire brigade or police not able to get through?
Whatever you do DO NOT move into a bus lane to speed their progress
YOU WILL BE FINED.
They have a free pass in such circumstances.
Ambulances haVE ALREADY BEEN BLOCKED IN sWANSEA. This Law is dangerous.
Our milkman moans that the paperboy overtook him on the road. 😂
How about pedestrians taking responsibility for their own actions by "watching where they are walking" instead of looking at their bloody phones all the time.
We had a chancellor who studied classics.
No wonder he hadn’t a clue
When I was young I was taught that roads were for cars and pavements were for pedestrians. I was also taught that before crossing the road I had to watch for cars because they had right of way on the road. It was a simple, logical, hierarchy that follows natural law where the smaller gives way to the larger. As a result, I've never been hit by anything when I've crossed the road.
The current 'hierarchy' is completely upside down with various incorrect notions and ideas about safety. Back then kids knew that roads were dangerous and you didn't play on them because a car could suddenly appear, even if it was a very quiet road. Everywhere was 30 MPH and there were even a 40MPH dual carriageway outside a school I went to, yet was seldom a problem. Danger is natural and 'wrapping things up in cotton wool' has proven to either not improve anything or often make matters worse.
The problem is the cycling lobby is in all transport departments
Sadiq Khan is NOT interested in pollution, just money.
In all of these arguments for 20MPH limits they all forget that cars have brakes, they all say would you want your child hit at 20 or 30 how about new cars have good brakes and slow down pretty damn fast, we don't just go driving through people when we see them walk into the road
Anti car, legacy hunting, net zero zealotry.
Quentin pushing electric cars again, its like he's being paid to do so. What a complete sell out.
Nothing new. Barbara Castle, Minister of Transport 1965-1968, never had a driving licence.
Electricity is not a fuel, it is an energy storage medium, and it isn't actually efficient.
She has lots of cats. Quelle surprise!
This Doctor, what on earth does she know about politics and why is she not striking for Keir anyway ??????????
She probably knows more than you.
Electric Vehicles will push up the price of domestic electricity for us as demand for electricity goes up.
Why have a speed limit at all,on clear days, on the motorway? Are British motorways worse than our German autobahns?
It's a money making scheme. When every single bus in London produces zero emissions, I might begin to believe it's about air quality. However, zero emissions is a misnomer because electric vehicles are costly and resource intensive to produce.
Remember when they brought those superslow Bendy Buses into Central London and you got a half mile queue of traffic behind each one??!! You don;t need a Degree to work this stuff out - just Common Sense - 20MPH wont work either.
@@joso7228 Agreed.
its all about cash get as much as thy can out of the driver,
New 20mph limit on the A329 Little Milton.
Cars take longer to pass through the village.
All the traffic bunched-up.
MORE polluting.
It must be hell for the residents.
Quentin Wilson just flew back from Vancouver. Total hypocrite 🧐
Speed limits are based upon forward visibility distances and whether there are accesses along the route. If you cant see someone approaching and pull out, can they stop in time?
Transport planners are mainly geography students and only know how to get to work (the boss said that!) And they also fudged every speed survey i did, knocking off the counts until they got the result for the planning officer to not be able to object, for the speed of the road and the amount of extra traffic. Theyre all responsible for the speed tables/cushions/humps that emerged and most the time they werent actually needed
Why should I pay for EV drivers parking they already don't pay Fuel duty.
this is another part of their desperation to control everything we do and say. Plus, easy money !!!
And when drivers stop hogging the 3rd Lane on motorways, holding up other users, forcing users to illegally under take.
Let’s get back to the proper usage of the lanes. Pull out to overtake only. Then back to your lane. Not sitting in lanes because, you can. Our driving instructors, are to blame, in so many ways.
And those asses who do 40 in a 40 so sit resolutely in the outside lane but then keep slowing to 38 and 36.
People in clowncils who plan traffic flows and one way systems dont actually drive
This all about control and another cash cow as they know their will be many many more speeding fines.
Do they still do road safety in schools still if they don’t maybe they should
An automatic car hates 20 mph, constantly braking and releasing more brake particulates into the air. A third longer to get where you are going and a third more exhaust fumes.
Lee Waters is also renowned for stating "we ( Liebour) don't know what we're doing with the economy."
Don’t worry folks, you won’t be allowed to drive a car at all soon.
Government should be listening to what the people want not Nanny state mentalitY
Horse and carts go faster than this.
There should absolutely not be 20 mph limits on ANY main arterial road, it's totally ridiculous. The only reason the have made 'A' roads 20 is because they are the roads which have nearly all the cameras on them. Say no more! 💰💰💰
Vehicles are less efficient when stopping and starting at lower speeds. 20 mph restrictions imposed on roads with designated pedestrian crossings is totally insane. I would like to know what % of the people making these changes actually use the roads that their stupid ideas are impacting. I have recently seen duel carrageways reduce limits from 40-30 when the road has pedestrian crossings and 60-50 on a major road that has no pedestrian walkways or cycle paths.
Maintaining a speed of 20 miles per hour requires the driver to continuously apply both the brake and gas pedals. The problem arises when the speed hovers around 35-40 mph, with a margin of error of 5 to 10 miles per hour. This condition leads to increased gasoline consumption and at least a 70% rise in MP 2.5 particulate matter, as the brakes are constantly regulating this very narrow margin. Additionally, tire friction against the asphalt (the pushing carpet effect) generates more particulate matter. Increasing cost of infrastructure, maintenance and operation.
Implementing a 20-mph speed limit in urban areas with closely spaced street crossings is stupid, regressive, counterproductive, and contradicts established traffic engineering norms. It perpetuates a state of constant acceleration and braking, diminishing the advantages of vehicles thus approaching the serious limitations of bicycles. At that speed it makes no sense to own an automobile…the result of which is catastrophic for human civilization since absolutely all and everything depends on mobility.
Governments are imposing regressive measures on their citizens. Politicians often resort to taxation, punishment, and citizen abuse instead of providing solutions. Mobility is the backbone of the global economy; this should not be hard to grasp. Governments rely on oil-related taxes, yet they harm their own sources of revenue.
The concept of an 'Unsustainable Mythic Green Transition' goes against the laws of physics, specifically the second law of thermodynamics, which states that true sustainability or net-zero is unattainable. To achieve sustainability, every single input, from individual components to entire systems, must also be sustainable without energy losses. Thermodynamics tells us that this is impossible - it's called 'entropy.
Entropy is a thermodynamic measure representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work. It is often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system. The second law of thermodynamics dictates that entropy always increases with time.
2:20 Get him.. get that speeding lawnmower driver .... he must be fined...
EVs are just a flash in the pan. They catch fire and the fire is almost impossible to put out. Insurance companies will get the message. Storing one of these things near a house will void the insurance on it. Ships carrying them will have their insurances voided. Finally the geological nature of lithium deposits will drive the price of the stuff through the roof.
Insurance Companies would have already reacted to that situation if that was true. The Technology is developing like more efficient Batteries and Blue Hydrogen. Why your fascination with Big Oil smelly cars?
@@joso7228 I think that they have in Australia. We will not hear about ships until they refuse to ship those cars.
This lack ofrofessional mps instead of the best box ticker gets the job that is the problem
I remember back in the 90s a advertisement was on tv. It said take your eyes off the road for one second it could be fatal.? Hence 20 MPH is Dangerous keep looking at your speedo. Also I’m getting so fu..ing board and tired of all this climate ballshit.
Here is a thought if the speed limit is set at 20 could that impact on insurance premiums as in a reduction
Insurance companies cut their premiums? Yeah, right!
Electric car's.... give it a rest!!!!
Utter nonsense!!!!
Seriously, how many lives are saved? I can tell you now that one life is not worth inflicting this on millions of people. You can't save everyone, and you can't legislate against stupidity.
And Ambulances are being blocked in the new Traffic Jams so its NOT Saving Lives overall.
Why are we allowed to have cars and motorcycles engineered to exceed the national speed limit, by 50 mph or more? When the 70mph was introduced most cars would have been undrivable at over 80mph.
For when we go on holiday to Germany
The Tories are Labour at the speed limit-both are driving over a cliff.
Vote Reform.
Vote Tories OUT in UK.
Vote Labour OUT in Wales.
The goal was stated as primarily to get motorists to take to public transport, bikes, or legs for short journeys < 1 mile. Apparently the rest of the ‘benefits’ such as safety, community and pollution support that goal. So, arguments about safety being compromised by people looking at their speedometers or electric vehicles reducing pollution are moot.
Hardly about safety on public transport, I’m sure a female will feel safe at night on a bus filled with drunk men!
Yes, great idea - gets lots of people out in the streets on foot or bicycles, only to be run over by some driver looking at his speedometer instead of the road. I'm guessing they didn't really think it through.
@@bradevans7935 To a man with a hammer, every solution looks like a nail. ‘Think’ and ‘Government’ shouldn’t be in the same sentence. The reason they think it makes sense is that more people walking/cycling is supposed to equal less cost to the Welsh NHS. The problem is that it’s having an NHS with free healthcare that results in a lack of personal responsibility for health - obesity. Drakeford won’t get people out of their cars anyway - 5mph warm driving is still better than 2 mph walking in the sleet and rain. All he will do is reduce visitor numbers and make travel more of a misery than it currently is. He will increase the cost of transport leading to higher living costs and more unhealthy eating.
EXCEPT we got Traffic Jams everywhere. Go to Cardiff and Swansea and see for yourself. So less SAFETY as Ambulances blocked - Less COMMUNITY because everyone is angry and no-ones selling their cars - and more POLLUTION because we are all stuck in Fukin Traffic!
No you don’t have to have it at all.
Quentin is Wrong, there are cameras on motorways, I travel regularly on the M1 and they are definitely there.
my work mate got caught on the M74 doing 94MPH by a camera
When power goes overhead.
RoSPA report June 2023 rejects default 20mph limit but supports such a limit in appropriate circumstances.
The petition against this ridiculous speed limit has reached 430,000 and that arrogant old woman Drakeford, who is supposed to represent the people of Wales has said that he will not reverse HIS decision regardless of the number who oppose it. "Saving lives" he says, but doesn't mention the impact on health of slower cars who are pumping out more fumes particularly in built up areas.
To slow a modern car you have to engage a lower gear which uses more fuel, creates more wear and tear on the engine, not to mention the fact that drivers are spending far too much time looking at their speedometers. Like the 50 MPH on the M4, it does nothing to reduce pollution, or safety, it simply creates havoc with the traffic flow.
It's about time the people of Wales spoke with their votes and got rid of any politicians who stand by this dictator.
I am waiting for someone to mention that with the introduction of electric vehicles which are reported to have 30 to 50% extra mass than a comparable ICE car. Do the kinetic energy sums ie 1/2MV^2 they need to take speed down to ensure you are less likely to be seriously injured if hit. However no one wants to mention that in case it impacts the introduction of electric cars. Also reducing emissions yes there maybe less emissions if a exhaust gas analysis is done but the time taken will be longer and it is doing the same amount of work to take that mass from A to B. Then you hear the arguments oh the slower it is the safer it is. So there must be some sort of safety risk assessment available that weighs up risk against an adverse outcome that can be quantified. These are all well developed engineering design principles. That’s why we have ALARP so you can develop safe practices optimising adverse outcomes whilst undertaking any task. Instead we have politicians that develop policy based on social media statement they think are popular so they can virtual signal. Not convinced there is open and clear joined up policy making by people that know what they are doing.
Yet to meet a politicians, a local government employee or a civil servant that would understand 1/2mv^2
@@vinj-xc3mx I know of one politician that chairs one of these types of committees. When this individual was employed as a general worker at an engineering establishment. He gassed himself with choline mixing incompatible toilet cleaners cleaning the toilets. So like you, my confidence in the people making these decisions is low.
Cars getting heavier is surely another good reason to reduce speed limits?
20 mph speed limits is absolutely criminal and murderous.
Far fewer people would die on our roads if the limit was 10 mph.
Heartless fools like Drakeford have blood on their hands.
70 was invented with drum brakes on an Austin allegro. That car took three weeks to get to that speed. Decent cars these days is just too archaic to their braking systems.
And three weeks to stop
Would be good to examine any payments to drakeford from the wef.
Traffic drives around Cardiff (before 20MPH) quickly like in London. I actually think its just that old man Drakeford couldn't keep up with the traffic pace. So he messed us all up.
I live in the Scottish Borders where the 20mph was introduced. Not a great idea. Get a good supply of brake pads is my advice and brush up on emergency stop procedures. I do agree re close to schools but otherwise 👎👎👎
so why is germany can you drive as fast as you like in certain places we did 170mph last time i was there
Dear Sir, I live in the Sutton Surry area and we have a roundabout at Rose Hill, it has 6 roads coming into it. Years ago you entered in the normal way with this type of road junction by flowing in when there was adequate space to do so in a sensible manner. But several years ago traffic lights were installed at the road junctions and on the actual roundabout itself and from then on the traffic became snarled up so much so that at busier times it is actually grid locked, and this no doubt is producing inordinate amounts of pollution.
However, twice I have approached this roundabout at rush hour only to find next to no traffic and the answer to this became clear on entering the roundabout, and that is there were no traffic lights working.
So it is apparent to me that this along with chicanes where one car has to stop to let the other through, then slightly further on the reverse happens which means constant stopping and starting is deliberately generating pollution and adding to frustrated drivers who are then more libel to make mistakes.
These people detest cars and the freedom they give us, this is about a long game of ending private car ownership.
Road safety is the justification for 20mph limits but not the reason. That's the problem with this discussion.
Here in the Highlands we have a village near me ,Castletown, as you go in its clearly marked 30 go round the corner on the lampposts there are now small rounds marked 20 also they've widen the pavement and added priority directional signs
educate people/children ,the green x code,nose out of mobile phone when walking,
We have it in the town centre AND the ring road - designed to take traffic out of town!
So...whats the result???
10mph is safer yet
Exactly, Quentin, good man it’s all about the appliance of science, not just the stuff you want to hear👏👏👏👏👏👏
Teach people to drive properly and speed limits are unnecessary!
I live and run a haulage business in Wales and Drakeford is a complete joke !!!! He’s absolutely destroying the Welsh economy. I hope the people who voted for him are happy with themselves.
They should indeed raise motorway limits to 85. Modern cars and modern brakes.
It wouldn't make me any more or less likely to drive at 90 or 100 personally.
If London any scientific advice is ignored or worse sent back to change the findings to fit the desired outcome.
It’s the people who get up and drive to work that keep this economy propped up.
Are they throwing Lee Waters under the bus when practically the whole of the WG voted for this to go ahead. I think most welsh people are happy for 20mph to be in front of schools and hospitals but to have a blanket ban of 20mph all over Wales is ridiculous. And to have 50 mph on our motorways is idiotic too. The WG have run Wales into the ground - losing money hand over fist, bad investments and infantilize the welsh people - lets hope the welsh people are finally waking up and stop blindly voting for the labour. People cannot afford electric cars and the rich politicians don't seem to be getting this.