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  • @elfedowen6452
    @elfedowen6452 Рік тому +45

    Ive just crawled at 20mph I was overtaken by an 80 year old on her mobilty scooter on the pavement....

    • @david-ky7rt
      @david-ky7rt Рік тому +4

      I might buy a mobility scooter to go to work on

    • @jsano2754
      @jsano2754 Рік тому +1

      😂😂 Such a joke!

    • @TheChrisheath7
      @TheChrisheath7 7 місяців тому

      She's in prison now for not paying her speeding fine.

  • @traffordmedia
    @traffordmedia Рік тому +91

    Do they never learn from there mistakes?
    The speed limit was increased again by the Motor Car Act 1903 to 20 mph. The speed limit was widely ignored and in 1930 it was abolished. Speaking in 1932, Lord Buckmaster said, "the existing speed limit was so universally disobeyed that its maintenance brought the law into contempt".

    • @Undisputed_King
      @Undisputed_King Рік тому

      Our generation's governments are the most incompetent yet.

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay Рік тому +5

      They didn't have cameras then. they'll be re-introduced, just watch, oh yeah, theyve already gottem.

    • @mattm4600
      @mattm4600 Рік тому +3

      That has nothing to do with today mate, you've had to go a century back when there was no proper roads

    • @BowserLucaTheThird
      @BowserLucaTheThird Рік тому +1

      When were you born 1873, not comparable. 20mph works fine where it's been applied

    • @steveyogilmore5314
      @steveyogilmore5314 Рік тому

      ​@@BowserLucaTheThirdare you a bot ?

  • @darkstatehk
    @darkstatehk Рік тому +41

    Climate crisis? HAHAHAHA
    Has that women ever spent any time in South East Asia, or how about any of the large South American cities? Perhaps she should be protesting on the roads of Dhaka or a similar place if she wants to make a difference. Those who have travelled to certain places will know how ludicrous this net zero policy is and how insignificant the UK's contribution is.

    • @oliver2629
      @oliver2629 Рік тому

      She's a paid shill, you only have to look at her to know what she thinks, probably got certain funding from you know who 🎩 W.E.F

    • @ASMR-XI-ZUI
      @ASMR-XI-ZUI Рік тому +5

      So true. She needs to watch some India car drivers in India. No lanes, no traffic lights, roads mixed with riksha drivers, cars n vans.

    • @CAF7000
      @CAF7000 Рік тому +1

      I think she lives in the UK though. That's like saying people protesting the war in Ukraine should only do so in Kyiv. That war has global consequences and so does the climate crisis

    • @TheChrisheath7
      @TheChrisheath7 Рік тому

      @@CAF7000 Not really. We gave done more than most on this front (by the way I think the whole "cause" is BS, for avoidance of doubt) and we are

    • @CAF7000
      @CAF7000 Рік тому

      @@TheChrisheath7 when you put it that way you're right actually, the UK is pretty insignificant and doesn't have much global influence anymore

  • @JO-xm6lq
    @JO-xm6lq Рік тому +211

    How about teaching pedestrians not to walk across the road without looking.

    • @broadcast-east
      @broadcast-east Рік тому +5

      Can you spot the problem with your statement?

    • @splyz57
      @splyz57 Рік тому +22

      ​@@broadcast-easti cnt bec there is none

    • @broadcast-east
      @broadcast-east Рік тому

      Brilliant!

    • @broadcast-east
      @broadcast-east Рік тому

      @@splyz57 ?

    • @alievans7988
      @alievans7988 Рік тому +11

      ​@@broadcast-eastwhat's the problem with his statement? 🤷🏻‍♀️ I don't see what you're getting at?

  • @P46169
    @P46169 Рік тому +19

    She says it’s all about safety but we know it’s all about making money from speeding fines.

  • @MrMonne84
    @MrMonne84 Рік тому +31

    People drive for a reason, these smug little climate activists act like it's a crime. This is just another revenue generating exercise. They'll have cameras everywhere because it's so easy to go over 20mph.

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Рік тому +1

      "these climate activists" act like if you continue to do SFA about climate change, your precious bloody reason won't exist.

    • @MrMonne84
      @MrMonne84 Рік тому

      @@dougaltolan3017 you think driving at 20mph will help in any way?

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Рік тому +1

      @@MrMonne84 reading comprehension problem? There are ways a 20 speed limit *could* help, especially if bus lanes, still had a 30 limit.
      But that's totally beside the point. Not driving at all would be ideal, driving EV would be OK.
      But, as I say, the reason people drive won't even exist if climate change isn't dealt with.

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Рік тому +1

      @@Krispysquare your half arsed, glib reply is sorely lacking in a huge dose of reality. The "it's more efficient to drive at 30" argument falls fairly and aquarely in the "spherical cows in a vacuum" category.
      Cruising speed is only a fraction of vehicle efficiency. Acceleration and braking are much more significant *especially* for urban driving, which (would you believe it) is exactly where the new limit applies. With a 20 limit you'll be doing a fck tonne less accelerating, it takes less than half the energy to hit 20 than it does 30.

    • @MrMonne84
      @MrMonne84 Рік тому

      @@dougaltolan3017 you think you can drive around London without stopping and starting if you're doing 20?
      You silly little clown.

  • @annefisher5381
    @annefisher5381 Рік тому +30

    At present two of the most dangerous (and potentially expensive) problems are a. Constant changing between 20-30-40 mph limits so you are looking for signs rather than the road generally b.aforesaid signs being obscured by foliage and large trucks in front of you.

    • @cloudbasenirvana
      @cloudbasenirvana Рік тому +1

      Wales 20mph why ? = 20mph proven to be no safer than 30mph
      ICE cars stop at 30mph very quick.
      It takes the very heavy EV Cars as long to stop at 30mph as it takes an ICE car to stop at 50mph.
      20mph = EV cars cannot stop quick enough at 30mph - they are too heavy and too dangerous for 30mph roads.
      So inreality the new road rulings 20mph and lots of 60/50 mph being lowered to 40mph should only apply to EV - this then puts them on par with ICE in stopping distances.
      EVs have remote stop systems and are tracked so the tech is all already in place to just apply all the new lowered speed limits to EVs.

    • @DisleyDavid
      @DisleyDavid Рік тому +1

      If you cannot see speed limit signs don't drive close behind HGVs.

    • @cloudbasenirvana
      @cloudbasenirvana Рік тому +1

      @@DisleyDavid - NEVER drive close behind HGVs or any other vehicle.

    • @TonyRansley
      @TonyRansley 10 місяців тому

      We should adopt the system used in the USA and EU 25 mph or 40kmph in built up areas no confusion between 20-30-40... .

    • @l4zrh4wk
      @l4zrh4wk 5 місяців тому

      30/60/70 for >dual carriageways. Why make it anymore complicated?

  • @firstname4865
    @firstname4865 Рік тому +32

    Fun fact, the slower the roads the slower the economy, this effects trade

    • @TRIPPLEJAY00
      @TRIPPLEJAY00 Рік тому +1

      The most stupid comment I've ever read 😂

    • @firstname4865
      @firstname4865 Рік тому +3

      @@TRIPPLEJAY00 its well documented in Europe

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Рік тому

      You get more vehicles per hour at 20 than you do at 30.

    • @grahambell4298
      @grahambell4298 Рік тому

      @@firstname4865 And in the USA. Ecomony improved following ditching of blanket 55mph limit.

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Рік тому +1

      @@avastone5539 maths.
      Ok, that was glib.
      If (yes, I know it's a big if with the state of modern driving) you keep 2 seconds separation between you and the car in front (as you should) then you get more cars in the same space, meaning that more cars pass in any given time.

  • @charlestaylor3027
    @charlestaylor3027 Рік тому +30

    Will Wales complain when Amazon and the other delivery companies add on a £5 fee because Welsh deliveries take longer? What about food prices going up?

    • @geepersoilyrag1884
      @geepersoilyrag1884 Рік тому +1

      I was talking about this yesterday, I think this wont actually affect amazon. Once the van gets to the town i bet it rarely went over 20mph anyway before this BS was introduced. Most supermarkets arent in 20mph areas so shouldnt affect food prices really

    • @joecater894
      @joecater894 Рік тому +2

      @@geepersoilyrag1884 home deliveries will though.

    • @paulsweet6235
      @paulsweet6235 Рік тому

      the people of Wales did not have a vote or a choice in the matter, it was implemented by a welsh labour communist government.

  • @TheChrisheath7
    @TheChrisheath7 Рік тому +115

    Fun idea - If you made it 10mph. we could all race pedestrians.

    • @alievans7988
      @alievans7988 Рік тому +2

      😂

    • @ASMR-XI-ZUI
      @ASMR-XI-ZUI Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 it wud allow slower drivers to be able to drive. Y on earth r UK country roads 70mph. It's like a racetrack.

    • @hazelholmshaw9415
      @hazelholmshaw9415 Рік тому +2

      I bet she does not drive at 10 miles per hour and she can if she feel so strongly about it, don't do as I do do as I say

    • @TheChrisheath7
      @TheChrisheath7 Рік тому +8

      I bet she does not drive, period.

    • @TheChrisheath7
      @TheChrisheath7 Рік тому +2

      @@ASMR-XI-ZUI They aren't. Only motorways and dual carriageways are ever 70. Single carriageways are 50 or less.
      I have never driven (my wife takes care of that bit). Yet I seem to know more about the rules of the road than half the people in this thread.
      No wonder the bloody Matrix is winning ...

  • @fdghn4567
    @fdghn4567 Рік тому +38

    In the future more people will likely get run over because they can't hear silent electric vehicles. Speed doesn't kill people, inappropriate use of speed does. On electric bikes, why should I have to give 2 meters clearance to what is actually a motorbike, a moped, and why do cyclists feel they do not have to stay 2 meters away from vehicles themselves. This about making driving such a negative experience that people don't drive.

    • @ASMR-XI-ZUI
      @ASMR-XI-ZUI Рік тому

      Ok how about having ice cream 🍦🍨 van sounds on cars. Like bikes have bells. Then again I guess that's what the car horn is for right. Have u guys checked out India drivers, it's so brutal. Uk roads r much safer.

    • @cyclingSausage
      @cyclingSausage Рік тому +5

      "On electric bikes, why should I have to give 2 meters clearance to what is actually a motorbike, a moped" - You don't, it's a metre and a half, it's for safety reasons and is in the highway code. "and why do cyclists feel they do not have to stay 2 meters away from vehicles themselves" - There's no danger to the motor vehicle if the cyclist is passing it at any distance..... Some people shouldn't be allowed to drive.

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому +3

      @@cyclingSausage I wouldn't even bother replying, sounds like a ChatGPT response - "create a rambling rant about speed limits but make it about how much I hate cyclists"

    • @shanekemp2002
      @shanekemp2002 Рік тому +2

      Cyclists need to also be held accountable for their own actions, I was driving home one morning at about 06:00 and came across about 30 cyclists, as the road is a winding one I had to slowly drive past them and giving them enough room, a cyclist squeezed himself in between the car and the kerb, I moved further onto the the oncoming lane and another cyclist squeezed in between the first rider and the car, I ended up being so far into the oncoming lane that if any large vehicle had come along I’d have been killed.
      If car drivers have to keep 1.5 metres away from cyclists then cyclists should be made to draw 1.5 metres away from cars or other vehicles, if for some reason the cyclist closest to me had swerved and hit the side of the car then fallen off his bike, who would be blamed?…me of course

    • @fdghn4567
      @fdghn4567 Рік тому +2

      No, I'm very much real with real unaltered dna. I've been a cyclist for over 52 years, never had any fears of being hit by other road users and I used to be a cycle courier around London.

  • @stachujones7820
    @stachujones7820 Рік тому +43

    Im curious how many people who think 20mph is a good idea actually drive? At 30mph you are still perfectly capable of stopping and if you can't then you shouldn't be driving.

    • @jsano2754
      @jsano2754 Рік тому +3

      Big facts!

    • @chappy2121
      @chappy2121 Рік тому +6

      It still depends entirely on the circumstances. If someone walks out between 2 parked cars, as you're approaching the gap between them. 20 or 30 makes no difference.
      Education and personal responsibility are what will reduce accidents of this nature. Instead of pinning blame on the insured everytime

    • @philroo1
      @philroo1 Рік тому +1

      Perfectly capable of stopping at 100mph, you just need a lot more room to do it the faster you're going

    • @plungerboobies6816
      @plungerboobies6816 Рік тому

      ​@@philroo1 what's the difference in stopping distance for 30mph and 20mph?

    • @philroo1
      @philroo1 Рік тому

      @@plungerboobies6816 shall I Google it for you. RAC says
      30mph = 23 metres
      20mph = 12 metres
      Stopping distance nearly halved

  • @19y6tmog3
    @19y6tmog3 Рік тому +15

    TURNING BRITISH ROAD TO FUNERAL PROCESSION ROAD. WHAT A SHAME!

  • @pup1008
    @pup1008 Рік тому +15

    There was an extensively conducted study carried out by a university in Scotland which found that the incident rate between *20 & 30 mph* was "negligible."
    This is *ALL* about *MONEY!* 😠

    • @joecater894
      @joecater894 Рік тому +1

      might lose more money if tourists stop coming to wales. 20mph isn't natural speed for drivers to be driving long distances.. plus some are worried about it coming to england.

    • @DavidWilliams-nk6bf
      @DavidWilliams-nk6bf 3 місяці тому

      Only if you break the law.

  • @mandymorgan8103
    @mandymorgan8103 Рік тому +46

    She literally said… it’s about getting people walking, cycling! It’s all about control

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack Рік тому +1

      Don't fall for the far right propaganda. Governments have been promoting healthier habits and safety measures for centuries. And well they should. We live in a society, it's not a free for all. Why should your desire to drive at whatever speed trump other people's desire for safe, pleasant, walkable neighbourhoods?

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack Рік тому

      @@david-ky7rt your mind has been rotted by far right propaganda. All this conspiracy nonsense is secretly funded by oil and car companies so they can keep making their sweet profit. You need to stop and think who stands to benefit from the conspiracy theories you're parroting.

    • @mandymorgan8103
      @mandymorgan8103 Рік тому

      @@david-ky7rt vote all we like but they will put in place whoever they want, they are puppets. I live just outside Oxford, it’s horrendous! Roads are blocked, you can’t get anywhere, it’s misery. As for London, it’s just a name now.

    • @PastaSauce.
      @PastaSauce. Рік тому

      Well walking will be great for the fatties

    • @andybray9791
      @andybray9791 Рік тому

      She is mentally Ill Karen

  • @everTriumph
    @everTriumph Рік тому +42

    Why not make it 2mph, and have someone with a red flag walk in front. Replacing cars with horses will increase the number of deaths due to trampling and kicks and increase emissions.

    • @composedlight6850
      @composedlight6850 Рік тому

      yep sounds good LOL

    • @ASMR-XI-ZUI
      @ASMR-XI-ZUI Рік тому +2

      Neighbor got a horse already 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 they be galloping to shopping centre. Yeeeeehaaaaaaaaa 🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack Рік тому +1

      Great idea. You've got my vote!🗳

    • @cyclingSausage
      @cyclingSausage Рік тому +1

      Until people can drive without constantly looking at their phones, that might not be a bad idea 😀

    • @mosheridan7016
      @mosheridan7016 Рік тому

      Ofc not do you want us back to the horse and cart and the dark ages, enough of climatehoax already. It's all about money and control we will not be fooled anymore.

  • @mauricestanley5763
    @mauricestanley5763 Рік тому +68

    I live in Wales for me the introduction of 20mph from 30mph does not bother me one iota however the way it was decided that the 20mph should be brought in nationwide worries me a great deal. Pamphlet put out by the Welsh Assembly claims that 63% of the people were for the speed reduction. This 63% was based on a survey of 1000 people dare I say probably a selected demograph, for a population of 3.1 million. What else might they want to push through.

    • @Undisputed_King
      @Undisputed_King Рік тому +13

      Crooks in charge

    • @ce5890
      @ce5890 Рік тому +8

      Power always wants more power

    • @berniecarroll2022
      @berniecarroll2022 Рік тому +7

      Money is on that twit on the left doesn’t drive and I would love for her to answer my question “I’m a community nurse how will I manage to see all my patients in their homes ? Walking will only allow me to see 2/3 per shift and cycling will not enable me to carry all of my equipment 🤬
      She needs to educate herself with the facts and not be closed minded

    • @jerrysmith2360
      @jerrysmith2360 Рік тому

      @@ce5890it takes less power to drive at 20 than 30 😀

    • @TheChrisheath7
      @TheChrisheath7 Рік тому +7

      @@jerrysmith2360 and generates twice as much pollution. Doh!

  • @robwalsh2362
    @robwalsh2362 Рік тому +47

    I don’t think the average driver goes out on road looking to knock down a pedestrian, we had a thing when I grew called the green cross code.

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack Рік тому +3

      You probably had a lot lot fewer cars on the roads too.

    • @carlgreene538
      @carlgreene538 Рік тому +4

      The average driver is a lumatic willing to kill himself and anyone else just to save a few seconds!

    • @cyclingSausage
      @cyclingSausage Рік тому +4

      Yes but back in those days drivers weren't driving along glued to their mobile phones!

    • @merlin7766
      @merlin7766 Рік тому +1

      @@carlgreene538 so I guess you are not an average driver. If it is so dangerous to drive at speed what excuse do the police have.

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому +2

      They may not go out intentionally aiming to knock down a pedestrian, but they also don't seem to try particularly hard to avoid near misses either
      In the space of 2 minutes I witnessed a driver leave a roundabout, driving right in front of a woman pushing her pram across (she started crossing before the driver was even on the roundabout).
      I then had a driver cut right in front of me as he turned into a car park when I was also halfway across the road. He wasn't indicating when I started crossing. When I shouted at him he looked incredulous as though it was my fault.
      Both of these contravene the highway code which says you MUST stop for pedestrians on the road, and that you SHOULD give priority to pedestrians waiting to cross. As well as giving 2m space to pedestrians who are on the road.

  • @Guardian2003
    @Guardian2003 Рік тому +52

    If they ever have a blanket speed reduction, then it should apply to all forms of transport, not just cars. If they really want to make roads safer, maybe people should stop stepping out into the road in front of vehicles. Maybe also introduce a ban on using mobile phones whilst crossing a road and also the wearing of headphones/earbuds so they can here vehicles. Worlds gone madder!

    • @david-ky7rt
      @david-ky7rt Рік тому +1

      And it should apply to Emergency vehicles, Ambulance's, Police, Fire service as well.

    • @54356776
      @54356776 Рік тому +5

      Speeds rarely the issue. It's people not paying attention or simply being too inept to drive. The test is far too easy.

    • @jefflikeusual20
      @jefflikeusual20 Рік тому +3

      Maybe even ban cyclists clogging up the road!

    • @MyName-cw4yr
      @MyName-cw4yr Рік тому +5

      If someone gets hit by a car because they stepped out into the road while on their phone and didn't pay attention, that's just natural selection at work.

    • @jsano2754
      @jsano2754 Рік тому +1

      100%

  • @TheDStee
    @TheDStee Рік тому +38

    The majority of drivers ignore the speed limits as it is. Having the limit even lower will simply invite even more reckless driving by impatient drivers, increasing risk and counteracting the main purpose of such a change. I drive hundreds of miles a week to work through urban areas and regulaly get overtaken in 30 zones when obeying the speed limits. It is just the way it is sadly.

    • @laidbackmedia
      @laidbackmedia Рік тому +1

      It gets worse at 20. Now you have bicycles and scooters undertaking//overtaking lol. Add to that emboldened pedestrians.

    • @augustusmaximus891
      @augustusmaximus891 10 місяців тому

      🐱

  • @googleuser-id4db
    @googleuser-id4db Рік тому +23

    speed and safety are two totally different factors you can do 100mph and not kill any one on a clear road but then you can do 10mph on the pavement and kill multiple people, speed doesn't kill, the drivers and the pedestrians common sense dose, the speed limits in the areas seem to be fine just the way they are.

    • @cloudbasenirvana
      @cloudbasenirvana Рік тому +2

      If you hit somebody at 30 mph they will go over the bonnet - if you hit somebody at 20 mph they will go under the car.......
      20mph Limit = Death on the roads rising dramatically.(as well as an increase in respiratory cases as 20mph low gear travel will be so very much more toxic to the environment)

  • @trickydicky90
    @trickydicky90 Рік тому +8

    New idea, not happy with the current system, create a political party whose manifesto is to abolish 20 mph speed limits everywhere, ULEZ and no ban on petrol or diesel cars in 2030, I can see at least 25 million votes right there and will have the other parties filling their shorts! :)

  • @ashlittle4545
    @ashlittle4545 Рік тому +26

    I love how we are all about carbon footprints yet fail to understand that all cars will now spend an additional 33% more time on the roads, due to journeys taking longer! 💨 The result of creating so many control agendas on the population, that contradictions are unavoidable.

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому +4

      That's not how mathematics works
      More time doesn't automatically equal more emissions if the time spent is more efficient. For a start, journey times don't increase by 33%. Check your average journey times on Google maps. If I drive in an urban environment it's around 12-14mph. Driving slower means less wasted acceleration.

    • @plungerboobies6816
      @plungerboobies6816 Рік тому +3

      ​@@northeastcyclist1507it's not more efficient it's FAR less. At 30mph I get about 50mpg, at 20mph I get about 30mpg.

    • @forenamesurname4576
      @forenamesurname4576 Рік тому +2

      Trouble is 20mph is in-between 2nd and 3rd gear on most cars so you end up staying in 2nd and over revving, fuel economy is worse.

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому

      @@plungerboobies6816 Yeah and you have to brake again shortly after wasting that extra efficiency. It's not as straightforward as you might think

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому +1

      @@forenamesurname4576 Yes, assuming you're only driving in a straight line interrupted. Real world driving does not mimic that

  • @user-144k
    @user-144k Рік тому +14

    5 miles per hour is safest. Even on the motoways this could be increased to 7 miles an hour!

    • @TheChrisheath7
      @TheChrisheath7 Рік тому +1

      "No-one would ever die on the road if we all did 0 mph. But that would also have to include pedestrians." - Greta Schwab, sometime recently (probably).

    • @ASMR-XI-ZUI
      @ASMR-XI-ZUI Рік тому +1

      Lorry drivers bully small car drivers. It's not right. Car rights for the didy smart cars.

    • @veronicabingham6018
      @veronicabingham6018 Рік тому

      Get a life

    • @david-ky7rt
      @david-ky7rt Рік тому +1

      Why not 10 mph urban streets and 20 mph on motorways

    • @luvabhi3
      @luvabhi3 Рік тому +3

      @@david-ky7rt That's too fast man. I totally disagree. Anything in 2 digits is too fast.

  • @brianrichards3119
    @brianrichards3119 Рік тому +17

    It'll make me think twice about visiting Wales again. It already takes ages getting anywhere in Wales because of their stoneage road network.
    It's as though they are actively trying to kill off their own tourist industry.
    If 20 is safer than 30, then why not go further and save more lives by making it 10?

    • @FOscum
      @FOscum Рік тому +3

      Wales was on my list......now its got a bold red ❌️ through it.

    • @laidbackmedia
      @laidbackmedia Рік тому

      .

    • @DisleyDavid
      @DisleyDavid Рік тому

      I often visit Wales. Hardly ever ach

  • @chrisdarling2404
    @chrisdarling2404 Рік тому +3

    Interesting, so a journey that takes 50 minutes to get to work, will now take me about 2 hours. Looks like I'll have to say goodbye to that job.

  • @grahambell4298
    @grahambell4298 Рік тому +25

    If you get hit by a car doing 30mph you have a 92% chance of survival. If you get hit by a car doing 20mph you have a 97% chance of survival. If you're sensible enough not to run out into the road to get hit by a car you have a 100% chance of survival. Official figures for pedestrian casualties from 2016 to 2021 show 34,726 pedestrian fault and 19,184 driver/rider fault. So the biggest cause of pedestrian casualties is quite clearly pedestrians - but strangely the authorities never seem to make any attempt to do anything about that. And no, there should not be a 20mph limit on every urban road - only those that merit one.

    • @patrickfarrell4751
      @patrickfarrell4751 Рік тому

      A perfectly logical and reasonable argument that is fundamentally flawed in one particular way but not a way of your making it
      They don't make the rules using logic and reason!

    • @1stwalker
      @1stwalker Рік тому +2

      I mean.... that's not true. Do you really think all pedestrians hit by cars happen on the road? You just yourself said there was 19000 where it wasn't the pedestrians fault..

    • @patrickfarrell4751
      @patrickfarrell4751 Рік тому +1

      His point was that slowing cars down (and thus penalising in some way the drivers) to protect pedestrians doesn't help if they are at fault because they don't take care for themselves in the first instance@@1stwalker

    • @ASMR-XI-ZUI
      @ASMR-XI-ZUI Рік тому +1

      The UK govt shud make it law that pedestrians must only cross at traffic lights n mid road pot things, as in the USA jaywalking is illegal.

    • @catsmad48
      @catsmad48 Рік тому

      Your figures are way off. Survival rates at 20mph are much higher.

  • @i3d3
    @i3d3 Рік тому +32

    One thing is certain: a delivery driver will not be able to do as many drops in a day at 20 mph speed limits than one could at 30 mph limits, meaning it will either take more drivers (more expensive) to do the same workload, or deliveries will take longer and affect the supply chains of local businesses.

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack Рік тому +6

      People's lives are more important than business profits.
      What an indictment of capitalism that such a statement seems radical these days.

    • @charlestaylor3027
      @charlestaylor3027 Рік тому +7

      @@TheStarBlack it wont affect the profits people will just pay more for deliveries in Wales, food will cost more, Welsh exports will get more expensive.

    • @terptv710
      @terptv710 Рік тому

      ​@TheStarBlack that's what they said about the covid if we cost the country millions and ruined peoples way of lifewe could safe 1 person........
      Tyranny

    • @Sam-nn9ms
      @Sam-nn9ms Рік тому +2

      @@TheStarBlack I bet you don’t drive

    • @JSuperfly
      @JSuperfly Рік тому +3

      ​@@TheStarBlackthese costs are always passed onto the customer i.e. you.

  • @brianlopez8855
    @brianlopez8855 Рік тому +4

    There are now at 5.30pm 20.9.23 very nearly 300,000 signatures opposed to it.
    This is almost 10% of the Entire Resident Population of Wales.
    Its climbing at about 100 signatures every 5 minutes.

  • @IreneWilliams-v5m
    @IreneWilliams-v5m Рік тому +7

    Of course it's about drivers and their cars. Nothing to do with road safety - they want us off the road - end of.

  • @BadlydrawnBen
    @BadlydrawnBen Рік тому +7

    At 20mph you spend more time looking at the speedo than the road you also use more fuel

  • @Rockhopper1
    @Rockhopper1 Рік тому +12

    schools are only open for a third of the year, meaning two hours a day of children travelling, the more sensible German policy is school zones where the 30k speed limit is applied between set times and dates, and it does not apply during school holidays or weekends. See it inconveniences drivers at the correct times. As for other urban areas, it should be illegal to play on the road for children, and children between the ages of 1- 12 yrs old who are on the road have to be supervised by an adult. Also, make it a criminal action for a parent or guardian to fail to supervise a child whilst walking by a main road. We also need jay-walking rules, and make it an offence to walk across traffic whilst distracted, drunk, or under the influence of drugs. So fed up with the constant policies for drivers but no policies on pedestrians, and cyclists, and horse riders. As they can cause serious accidents too,

    • @LWylie
      @LWylie Рік тому

      Manslaughtering children is on drivers. Drive slower and pay attention.
      Or, get out and walk to the shop you lazy phuck.

    • @terencejay8845
      @terencejay8845 Рік тому

      When I was a kid, in built-up terraced streets, we had designated Play Streets and drivers had to crawl along them, so they avoided them almost entirely.

    • @jsano2754
      @jsano2754 Рік тому +1

      Well put.

  • @davidevans3227
    @davidevans3227 Рік тому +2

    living in Cardiff, one thing about driving slower is i notice i look around more.. and i'm afraid my driving is slacker
    not good

  • @japfourme381
    @japfourme381 Рік тому +11

    Absolutely ridiculous madness!!

  • @SenszR
    @SenszR Рік тому +2

    As a man who received a prosecution letter for doing 28 in a 20 zone this morning, I’d say no.

  • @leatippings7479
    @leatippings7479 Рік тому +4

    Left to itself the flow of traffic would dictate the speed for a road

  • @asterickjones
    @asterickjones Рік тому +7

    Force people to retake their driving test every 10 years? That's a typical hallmark of the anti driver mindset.

    • @freshprince3891
      @freshprince3891 Рік тому +1

      Do you need to do a test every 10 years to see if you can cross the road?
      People don't forget how to drive!!

    • @Guest0496
      @Guest0496 Рік тому

      I drive everywhere, this specifically seems like a reasonable thing to do.
      There are people who hit a certain age and are no longer safe to drive, either due to decades of bad habits, or a degradation of competency or eyesight or whatever.
      We've all been driving and seen certain drivers do insane things, and currently there is no way for these people to be assessed to see if they should still be driving, or a way to make sure they are still capable of driving.
      Maybe every 10 years is too often, what about 15 or 20?
      20mph everywhere is crazy, and excessive, but a retest mechanism seems perfectly reasonable.

    • @asterickjones
      @asterickjones Рік тому

      @@Guest0496 But it would cause such anxiety and then be devastating if you failed, if arbitrarily. Maybe it could be a softer touch than completely losing your licence.

    • @Guest0496
      @Guest0496 Рік тому

      ​@@asterickjonesI think it's kind of worth it, motorcyclists without a full license have to do a bi-yearly training day on a bike, no matter how long they've been riding. I think even something like that would be an improvement; so you could catch and either remove the license of, or at the very least retrain people who are no longer driving safely.

    • @asterickjones
      @asterickjones Рік тому

      @@Guest0496 There's an incentive there for them to pass the full test then they are free of it, they are remaining "learners" before that, at least it makes more sense for that reason. But if they had to face a test that could potentially take the licence away that would be a downer. Imagine waiting for the 10 year to come up and worrying about failing it.

  • @faroukb5402
    @faroukb5402 Рік тому +17

    You should be making changes on the driving license test as you got lots drivers who dont even know who's Priority on a small roundabouts not to mention they never signal when turning left or right, etc ....

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому +1

      There should be mandatory re-tests

    • @LunaStarFire
      @LunaStarFire Рік тому +1

      The highway code is a joke, lots of stuff is overly worded, often conflicting with its own advice and is rarely enforced even amongst our police!

    • @chappy2121
      @chappy2121 Рік тому +1

      That's because the Police don't enforce any of those rules as there is no financial incentive

    • @faroukb5402
      @faroukb5402 Рік тому

      In fact lots people aren't doin the driving test but buyin it !!!

  • @aidan6557
    @aidan6557 Рік тому +4

    Cars are most efficient around the 50mph mark, decreasing the speeds doesn't necessarily reduce emissions. And he's right it'll just encourage more disregard for the speed limits

  • @songsmith31a
    @songsmith31a Рік тому +7

    Why not adapt the speed limit to the place and flexible times appropriate to the 24 hour clock and traffic
    conditions that are relevant. People die for any number of reasons, on or away from roads, and sense
    seems lacking in this one size fits all policy in this 21st century.

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому

      Many older people have been knocked over around here late in the evenings and early mornings. So what time do you suggest the speed limit should be adapted?

  • @andybray9791
    @andybray9791 Рік тому +1

    Scrap speed limits on motorways but a 30mph limit on single narrow lane roads

  • @barryrice7647
    @barryrice7647 Рік тому +8

    20mph is being used for one reason only, force people out their cars, this just pisses driver off, make driving a pain, they make money in fines because it is just to slow on an empty road, they are trying to get everyone on public transport, that survey, I bet the 28% was made up of people that don't own a car.

  • @leesmart2157
    @leesmart2157 Рік тому +2

    The issue with this is you have a national speed limit road where you go 60mph suddenly to a 20mph limit the braking involved will result in more rear end accidents.
    Going at 20mph you will be in a lower gear with a higher rev of the engine burning more fuel

  • @YayaFerni63
    @YayaFerni63 Рік тому +11

    These guys built the case as if every driver gets up in the morning with the only one goal to hit a pedestrian. I don't believe that they are so concern about the pedestrian safety to implement the 20 MPH rule.

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому +3

      Most drivers get up in the morning with only one goal - to get to work as quickly as possible expecting everyone else to get out of their way.
      Following the highway code goes out the window, replaced by the unofficial drivers code that most seem to stick to; fly into junctions, cut corners, use the mobile phone, don't give priority to pedestrians or slow for them if in the road, intentionally break the speed limit etc etc

    • @YayaFerni63
      @YayaFerni63 Рік тому

      Knowing such info and are you still cycling ? you are brave or I'm wrong@@northeastcyclist1507

    • @joules531
      @joules531 Рік тому +1

      Did you know that in Wales last year, over a thousand people were killed or seriously injured.
      Would you prefer to have a friend or relative hit at 20, rather than 30? Or would you genuinely not have a preference?

    • @Evo8hp
      @Evo8hp Рік тому

      @@northeastcyclist1507 most cyclists get up in the morning. In their Lycra’s not a care in the world for drivers. They travel on the road near enough in the middle of the road with there cyclists buddy having a conversation no doubt about how to wind us drivers up knowing fully well theirs lovely white bright paint on pavements with pictures of bicycles where your meant to ride as you have no license nor do you pay road tax. How about that. Everyday. Nothing wrong with the speed limit being 30. Pathetic. Now they’ll be more accidents with cyclists now their travelling faster than cars. Wonderful. 😂

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому

      @@Evo8hp Amazing how it speaks with such conviction, and yet everything it says is bollucks

  • @rachelpenny5165
    @rachelpenny5165 Рік тому +2

    20mph is not environmentally friendly. More emissions will happen. I can't drive and have mobility problems.
    So where possible I use public transport.

  • @dogzero1
    @dogzero1 Рік тому +37

    Well having spent 2 days in North Wales this weekend I can honestly say this is ridiculous. In these 20mph zones we were being overtaken and undertaken by Tour De France wannabes dressed in Lycra on their pushbikes and they were laughing at the cars and motorcycles stuck at 20mph.

    • @JackPengelly
      @JackPengelly Рік тому +3

      Makes you want to ride a bike, aye?

    • @Evo8hp
      @Evo8hp Рік тому +3

      Ignore them. Ignore the rules. What can they do to all of us. Nothing.

    • @northeastcyclist1507
      @northeastcyclist1507 Рік тому +1

      I'm glad you shared this story so I can also now laugh at you too

    • @david-ky7rt
      @david-ky7rt Рік тому +2

      Time for you to ditch Wales , find an alternative destination for a short break.

    • @54356776
      @54356776 Рік тому +1

      ​@@JackPengelly
      Speed limits apply to bikes also.

  • @bamboozled3531
    @bamboozled3531 Рік тому +4

    I'm in mid Wales, no one is doing 20 mph, all as normal

  • @victorfernandez915
    @victorfernandez915 Рік тому +4

    What a load of crap, the government’s aim is to get as much money from motorists

  • @ronaldwhite5275
    @ronaldwhite5275 Рік тому +1

    Tried driving at 20mph found it impossible kept looking at the speedometer. The Welsh motorists need to get a backbone and everyone of them ignore this communist Drakeford.20mph is justified outside schools and hospitals but nowhere else.

  • @Sp1tfiref0rever
    @Sp1tfiref0rever Рік тому +1

    What a crock, if pedestrians where to look before crossing instead of looking at their phones they would be safe. Easy answer.

  • @koggism
    @koggism Рік тому +4

    Like the guy in the video said they are playing on emotions. There was an interview on ITV yesterday where they had school children agreeing to the speed reduction making the claim most people agread with the new law

    • @jsano2754
      @jsano2754 Рік тому +1

      They should let school kids make other life changing decisions for the rest of our society! What an absolute con!

    • @rodwhitley3257
      @rodwhitley3257 7 місяців тому

      Speak to them again when they grow up and need to work for a living

  • @markymarkinthehouse
    @markymarkinthehouse Рік тому +1

    AS a delivery driver and most days around London the 20mph is a great way to get rid of cyclists i find i am paranoid and forever looking down at my speedo instead of watching the roads as most cyclists go around 20 mph you are mingling more with them and engaging more being more aware of your speedo means you miss all the little tricks cyclists do jumping red lights cutting in front of you undertaking to name but a few while i am all in favour of anything that gets cyclists off the road this is a little drastic and will prove o be detrimental to road safety as more drivers pay more attention to their speedos and not the road for fear of being scammed yet more money and that is what this is all about making more money from the motorist

  • @jamesscottvideos
    @jamesscottvideos Рік тому +8

    Well, if you get hit by a bus doing 20, there's a good chance of severe injury, but if the bus is doing 5mph, you should be ok, so then why is GMB not promoting that?

  • @Nephilim225
    @Nephilim225 Рік тому +1

    pointed out on another channel that EV are much heavier and take longer to stop hence dropping speed limit to avoid EV's having more accidents

  • @Woodrow0
    @Woodrow0 Рік тому +4

    Horrible idea, cruise control only works at over 25 mph.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 Рік тому

      My kia works at 15mph ford at 20mph both second gear.

    • @Woodrow0
      @Woodrow0 Рік тому

      Only po people drive a kia.@@chrishart8548

  • @ka5269
    @ka5269 Рік тому +1

    25 mph is an acceptable compromise

  • @lauragoldie7142
    @lauragoldie7142 Рік тому +5

    I think tgey should investigate the fuel usage and cost before implementation of 20 mph

  • @andreiarama8745
    @andreiarama8745 Рік тому +1

    20mph speed limit has nothing to do with saving lives. On german Autobahn without speed limits there's less accidents than on the streets with speed limits. Are uou serious? Do you really think that people don't walk or cycle because of the traffic? Do you really think that someone will tell you "I'm not cycling because I am lazy"? You want people out of their cars? Just make a fast,clean,safe, reliable and cheap public transport and people will use it!!!

  • @7th.trumpet
    @7th.trumpet Рік тому +7

    The plan is to keep reducing speed limit continuously, so you get to a point where walking is quicker ! But, by 2030, you won't need cars when you're locked in your 15min zones anyway 🤷🏼‍♂️.

  • @dirtydawg448
    @dirtydawg448 Рік тому +1

    One thing is for sure - any politician who has supported this change should be given a draconian sentence if they later on break the new limit

  • @daleskidmore1685
    @daleskidmore1685 Рік тому +3

    Bring the speed limit down to 2mph and it will be quicker to walk. If that is the way she drives, maybe she is part of the problem.

  • @globalist1990
    @globalist1990 Рік тому +1

    OMFG, how is this like drink driving? Is she out of her mind? Anyone that will drive dangerously, will still do. They do it already past 30mph on a 30mph limit? Why should rational, sensible people suffer for both these types of idiots? I know, let's put them in a locked house and televise the ordeal.

  • @phillipcarlroberts4640
    @phillipcarlroberts4640 Рік тому +3

    I am not sure how this is going to make the roads safer at all, the speed limits do not apply to cyclists and there are some small villages in this area where if you do 30 in a car you are on par with the cyclists speed and you do not have to overtake or vice versa, in those areas now a cyclist will start to overtake or even undertake a car, this could cause all sorts of accidents that never occurred when the limit was 30... with this new limit a cyclist could overtake a car and go head on into a lorry, I would not fancy the cyclists chances in that sort of unprecedented accident but that sort of accident is on the cards now.

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Рік тому +1

      There is such a thing as dangerous cycling, and cycling without due care and attention.
      Won't you be at least a little bit happier that those laws will start biting cyclists more?

    • @phillipcarlroberts4640
      @phillipcarlroberts4640 Рік тому

      @@dougaltolan3017
      Speed limits do not apply to cyclists, a Cyclist can do 40mph through a 30mph zone without breaking the law, its obviously impractical for a cyclist to overtake a car doing 30mph so you never see it happen but reduce the cars speed to 20mph and cyclists will start to undertake and overtake in places whether its dangerous or not, its going to be havoc.
      I think my point is clear, these changes will not make all of the roads safer, I do agree with 20mph in some places but not all, it is pure laziness on the Welsh Governments part for not reviewing which roads it would suit and which roads it would not.
      The fact that laws will start hitting Cyclists is totally irrelevant to my point, the roads are not unsafe at the 30mph limit, there is a good chance that some roads will become unsafe at 20mph because of my point on cyclists overtaking and undertaking.
      Its a dangerous manoeuvre that would not have happened at the 30mph limit, but now the 20mph limit is implemented the police will be more than happy to give the dead cyclist a dangerous cycling warning.

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Рік тому

      @@phillipcarlroberts4640 the point went that way >
      You missed it

    • @celtshaun1427
      @celtshaun1427 Рік тому +1

      Just waiting for the first case of road rage against a cyclist for having the temerity to overtake a car even though if it's done in a safe manner the cyclist is not breaking any laws, it's going to happen I just hope no one gets hurt, This change is complete madness.

    • @phillipcarlroberts4640
      @phillipcarlroberts4640 Рік тому

      @@dougaltolan3017
      Prevention is better than cure and in this case the cyclist would not be the cause because they would not overtake or undertake a car doing 30, the cause would be the new 20mph limit.
      what next??? are they going to stop people from running on the pavements...clocked doing 27 in a pair of Nike trainers.

  • @niksananiksanov6777
    @niksananiksanov6777 Рік тому +2

    The petition doesnt got any success as few hours ago the idea of 20mph was yet defended at the time when there where 175000+ signatures with the reasons for that being the same. Not gonna be surprised if one day things get to 10 mph or forbid vehicles overall.. Just pure idiotic..

  • @LunaStarFire
    @LunaStarFire Рік тому +4

    In wales right outside a school that is surrounded by houses and is a fairly minor road, 30mph
    A straight road, extended width road with fields either side 20mph
    Seems stupid to me but i guess if your in infants or junior school your immune to cars, gotta slow down for the vulnerable badgers though!

  • @deepakbhana8937
    @deepakbhana8937 Рік тому +1

    Interestingly eneough driving at 20km/hr causes a great deal of emissions. To sustain a cleaner, healthier & safe roads for motorists would be to have designated days where you can't drive in city centers with roadways that can't accomodate more than 2 laneways.

  • @haydenellie
    @haydenellie Рік тому +2

    20 mph bloody ridiculous if you don’t want to be hit by a car stay on the bloody pavement duh !

  • @Martin-lc1sk
    @Martin-lc1sk Рік тому +3

    If you care about safety, fix the potholes so it's safe to cycle

  • @meandu219
    @meandu219 Рік тому +1

    Do gooders do No good again. Its rediculous

  • @oneeleven9832
    @oneeleven9832 Рік тому +3

    Richmond Park has a 20mph limit & as a cyclist it’s super dangerous as we are all going the same speed..i have no doubt a lot of cyclists will die..it’s madness

  • @durham6551
    @durham6551 Рік тому +1

    20mph is crazy, just like that young woman.

  • @mpsymonds1
    @mpsymonds1 Рік тому +7

    He’s right about constantly looking at your dash. This really is all about strangling the motorist slowly. If they are going down this road they should really clamp down on cyclists and scooters doing ridiculous speeds on the footpaths.

    • @edj4833
      @edj4833 Рік тому +2

      With any speed limit you have to look at the dashboard, why is 20 any different? Look at the speedometer, then have your foot at a certain place on the accelerator, then don't push your foot down any more and then you can keep the same speed. It's really easy.

    • @ieldore
      @ieldore Рік тому +3

      Do you not look at your dash at 30?

  • @nojhead
    @nojhead Рік тому +1

    In urban areas you are lucky to do 20 anyway it doesn’t need to be a law!

  • @CripleMusic
    @CripleMusic Рік тому +3

    I'd happily accept this just too annoy tailgaters who think they are entitled to the entire road just cause they have a high end vehicle

    • @ASMR-XI-ZUI
      @ASMR-XI-ZUI Рік тому +1

      This is so true. U have boy racers in expensive sports cars showing off n bullying little car drivers.

    • @cyclingSausage
      @cyclingSausage Рік тому +1

      I slow down to crawling pace when I'm tailgated. Man do they get annoyed..

  • @timothysmith160
    @timothysmith160 Рік тому +1

    She hasn't lived long enough to have a valid opinion about , well anything really.
    Control, it's all it is.

  • @beewa8840
    @beewa8840 Рік тому +4

    I agree with 20mph, but not on all residential roads. This requires more thought rather than just implementing a blanket 20mph.

  • @KS-gv8jy
    @KS-gv8jy Рік тому +1

    Its anti motorist plain and simple if any one is thinking something else your with the fairies the intentions and behaviours plus the organisations of those supporting it says all you need to know

  • @andrewmyers9982
    @andrewmyers9982 Рік тому +4

    Why not have a 25mph limit with a tolerance of 5mph? This would be a sensible compromise.

    • @broadcast-east
      @broadcast-east Рік тому

      Because if caught doing 30 people would say I was just over

  • @jeffvaljean6030
    @jeffvaljean6030 Рік тому +1

    They are getting the poor ready for the return of the horse and cart welcome to the new world of WEF control

  • @TheStarBlack
    @TheStarBlack Рік тому +5

    Yes, cut all urban roads to 20 and then all small residential roads to 10 or even better 5.
    Our children have largely lost access to the outside world because of cars. Lower speed limits would dramatically reduce collisions with pedestrians, make streets safer to cross and hopefully encourage people to walk or get the bus instead where possible.
    Imagine our neighbourhoods with little or no traffic. It would be such a nicer place for everyone to live, especially children.
    And yes, I am a driver. I would gladly sacrifice some convenience for a safer, quieter neighbourhood!

    • @DaciValt
      @DaciValt Рік тому +3

      Children have lost access to the outside world because they are glued to phones, tablets and the internet.
      When I was young there were cars around and we all still went out to play.

    • @celtshaun1427
      @celtshaun1427 Рік тому +1

      The roads are for traveling on not for kids to play on, ask yourself where have all the parks gone, where have all the play parks gone oh the council has sold them all off in the last 40 years as they could not balance the books.

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack Рік тому

      @@DaciValt you've got that the wrong way round. Kids are glued to phones because their freedom is so restricted from a young age. They're not learning to enjoy playing outdoors as much. And yes there were cars when we were younger, but not as many.

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack Рік тому +1

      @@celtshaun1427 roads used to be a communal space for everyone to use, they evolved from paths and tracks. Kids don't just need 'play parks', they need the freedom to explore their environment and make up their own games, hideouts and adventures. Do you know how uninspiring and boring an average playground is to a kid over the age of 10??

    • @DaciValt
      @DaciValt Рік тому

      @@TheStarBlack That was not my experience and my time was growing up around the inception of mobile phones becoming mainstream.
      But when they first came out they were solely for communication so we still went out and I think you will find there were a hell of alot of cars around then too.
      Tho I think it depends on where you live too, could still easily go out and play where i live atm... No-one does but they could.
      Go back 20/30 years ago and you would find children out playing and cars were not invented 20/30 years ago.

  • @Leftcatholicsatanchurch09
    @Leftcatholicsatanchurch09 Рік тому +2

    The roads near to schools are so crowded, you would be lucky to do 20 mph. 😊

    • @rodwhitley3257
      @rodwhitley3257 7 місяців тому +1

      Parents at a school near us campaigned for speed bumps and 20 limit on a main road which the school wasnt even on forgetting the fact that they were causing the biggest safety issue by parking both sides of the road on a bend and being too lazy to walk a few yards extra to use the school crossing

  • @7210690
    @7210690 Рік тому +3

    A speed limit of 10 mph will increase your chance to survive to 98% and 5 mph to 99%. Go for it!

  • @ladyk5104
    @ladyk5104 Рік тому +1

    maybe they should drop the speed limits on 60 rural roads. where there are no pavements and farm hands and animals. you want to save the lives of people or cyclists this is where to start. many rural roads aren't safe to be driving at 60 to start with. it took several years for our local council to listen to locals and drop one roads speed to 40 from 60 and I rarely get to 40 on this particular road, there were so many near misses and accidents its unbelievable as its not safe to do 40 most the time. with cyclists and horse riders and pedestrian in the road. I was hit by a car whilst out horse riding on a 60 road. I was just lucky the car hit the crash barrier before hitting us. or I wouldn't be here today

  • @Darkangel-hy8ev
    @Darkangel-hy8ev Рік тому +5

    30 is a perfectly acceptable sensible speed, you can cause accidents and traffic problems by going to slow!!
    Everyone going 20 would be a bloody nightmare!!
    Concentrate on the idiots on the motorways going at 90/100 mph, that is where your real fatalities happen!! Should be instant ban anyone going over 70 on the motorway!! That's what kills!!

    • @broadcast-east
      @broadcast-east Рік тому

      Got people right now doing 50 in a 30, nothing from the likes of you. Not your kids, pet, not your problem.

    • @xdc1776
      @xdc1776 Рік тому

      Bill of rights is are law's
      Acts are not law

    • @craigpimlott204
      @craigpimlott204 Рік тому

      the autobahns are non speed limit and there’s less accidents on those than our motorways at 70mph .

    • @Madkid73
      @Madkid73 Рік тому +2

      Spot on. For example, tentatively approaching a 70mph carriageway doing 40 is one of the most dangerous things I constantly see.

    • @broadcast-east
      @broadcast-east Рік тому

      @@craigpimlott204 An autobahn in residential areas?

  • @allanhughes7859
    @allanhughes7859 Рік тому +1

    I was today in wales passed by a cyclist at 23 M.P.H. will she because I could tell by the body shape be fined ???????

  • @ashlittle4545
    @ashlittle4545 Рік тому +3

    Statically if we lowered the speed limit to 5mph the pedestrian could in affect run the motor vehicle over.
    All motorways will be 50mph next, I’m calling it! Madness

  • @KingBlueSlimss
    @KingBlueSlimss Рік тому +1

    20mph would kill my earnings as a self-employed delivery driver.
    That's 33% slower moving from location to location. Are these people making these changes going to supplement my income because of this ridiculous rule?

  • @Cheese_Boi1986
    @Cheese_Boi1986 Рік тому +4

    yes it should only be 20 mph and we need more speed bumps because the amount of animals being run over lately is ridiculous

    • @garycook5071
      @garycook5071 Рік тому

      Might as well ban cars if that’s your answer (and argument)

    • @TheChrisheath7
      @TheChrisheath7 Рік тому

      Then there are clearly too many animals on the road. Natural selection.

  • @paularthur1451
    @paularthur1451 Рік тому +1

    Let's face it in the case of doing 30 mph most roads going in and out you're lucky if you can do 20 mph ,Gosport in Hampshire peak 3 mph if you're lucky. 😊

  • @chrismulhern82
    @chrismulhern82 Рік тому +1

    Problem with the policy is that you take ages to get anywhere. The expert for pro driving is good.
    Anyway I am fed up of driving in London - 20 mph, congestion zone, ULEZ. Nowhere to park, poor transport in south London (no tube, trains often cancelled)

  • @sammcdade5008
    @sammcdade5008 Рік тому +2

    The biggest problem i have with this argument is the fact they go on about people being injured while being hit at 20 or 30 miles an hour but not one of them has looked at the real problem.
    what the hell was that idiot doing in the road to be hit in the first place, i am constantly dodging people crossing roads behind busses or between cars as a motorbike rider and it doesn't matter the speed I'm going if someone appears from behind a bus and I cant react in time they are going to be hit.
    now motorists are going to be penalised because pedestrians DONT cross roads safely, how about we introduce jaywalking laws and stop people from thinking they can just walk out into moving traffic then blame motorists if they get hit.

  • @PhyzzFizz
    @PhyzzFizz Рік тому +2

    less speed, more fuel used, so more emissions, these people just cant get anything straight, were people even asked if they wanted the 20mph limits? and if so, what was their answer?

    • @bamboozled3531
      @bamboozled3531 Рік тому +1

      Us welsh didn't want it and not only were we ignored so were several scientists who said it's not going to make much difference to collision's with pedestrians and will increase pollution

  • @pauldurkee4764
    @pauldurkee4764 Рік тому +2

    To get our cities healthier places to live, maybe they have forgotten that our cities are full of cyclists delivering fast food, and other things not good for you, to people who don't need to get up from the settee, apart from answering the door.

  • @robbimildon9258
    @robbimildon9258 Рік тому +1

    In my opinion we don't need to keep dropping the speed limits, i feel that if people drive in a proper manner and have a bit of common sense their wouldn't be have of the accidents we are having at the moment. Driver training is the correct way to go here..

  • @agg25gga
    @agg25gga Рік тому +1

    Let's just all move at 1mph just in case someone stubs their toe and gets hurt eh? "For your safety". Whenever you hear that from a politician, it really means "for us to control you".

    • @david-ky7rt
      @david-ky7rt Рік тому

      No, let's be sensible here, how about 10 mph on all urban roads and 20 mph on motorways, that's more sensible,

  • @Rockhopper1
    @Rockhopper1 Рік тому +2

    oh to add any diesel vehicle with a DPF fitted it will not get hot enough to burn off and catalyse emissions, and will cause DPF filters to get blocked, and cause many more breakdowns.

  • @earthman6700
    @earthman6700 Рік тому +1

    Most cars aren't designed to run constantly at 20mph. 25mph might be wiser except for Schools. But then why not leave it as it is. Much more cost effective for the motorist and commercial drivers, and the Council, etc.

    • @david-ky7rt
      @david-ky7rt Рік тому +1

      Probably that's the idea, they don't want it cost effective for motorists. It's a form of restricting your freedom of movement and freedom of choice.
      Next will be 15 minute cities, it's happening now in Oxford, dividing living areas into zones, they may bring in rules like, you have to ask a government official if you need to leave your living zone, or you may need to ask for permission to go on holiday, just like they have to in North Korea, in North Korea 99% of the time it's denied.

  • @freshprince3891
    @freshprince3891 Рік тому +1

    First 20mph then 10mph then 1mph they don't want us driving.

  • @ianherd569
    @ianherd569 Рік тому +1

    My car cannot travel at 20mph in top gear. So, I have to drop a cog to travel at 20. Revs at 20 is more than 30. So, emissions at 20 is more polluting than at 30. Thinking is a gift!!

  • @bobmason1361
    @bobmason1361 Рік тому +1

    If you want to use more fuel (prices rising). If you want more pollution. If you have all day. If you can put up with irate drivers.