Huge Egirl Drama
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E-Girls complaining about other E-Girls getting famous for doing nothing is just such an ironic lack of self realization it's hilarious
Toxic femininity?
Couldnt have said it better myself
i heard they call them i-Ladys now 🤓
@@reapermodus2130 they are definitely not ladies
I was thinking the exact same thing
"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
- Mike Tyson
You sure you want them to be punched IRL? Sounds like an easy case for suing.
@@spugelo359 yeah most of them deserve to be punched lol
@@burger2229 A free payday?
@@spugelo359 you dont have to take it literally tbh, just that ppl online are too used to saying shit online and having their backlash contained in that space- and in that sense they face no real life consequences
@@spugelo359 if you were to disrespect somebody in real life like that depending on who it is chances are you will probably get cracked in face lmao
Who’d’ve thought people obsessed with attention and vanity might not have the nicest personality?
If people just woke up and realised how fake they are these e girls would have 0 income
Who's propagating these people? Its not like the degenerate consumer base is any better for elevating figures like these
@@en2p187 coomers
Fire bars 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Is who’d’ve a word?
this is literally so crazy. I hate to share a tag name (egirl) with these people. Be kind to others, it literally takes zero energy to just not be a horrible person.
False when someone tells you to kys you respond with equal force which requires energy. Case closed
True shit, I genuinely love having conversations with people of many backgrounds. Allows for perspectives from everywhere. But sometimes when someone bitches and starts being mean for no reason. You just gotta ignore them.
Nah it takes energy, especially after I lost trust in people. And especially if it's to people you hate. But if you mean being a descent, normal person, sure.
@@rainl4750 She didn’t ask for your life story. Just goto therapy and stop trauma dumping.
@@ghoultooth the fact it takes zero energy for you to sound horrible proves my point. Lmao, I didn't even disagree with her fully, I was just stating my opinion. In fact, it's a partial agreement. You're just triggered by the fact that I said "Nah". Listen people, disagreement is not a sin nor is it always hate.
they’re the type of ppl to talk abt being bullied in highschool for being weird and then act like highschool girls in private group chats 💀
Yep. They were “bullied” for being assholes. Most likely retaliation stuff for bad things they did themselves. But of course “they” are the only victims in their own minds.
i can agree with this because i was literally like these women at some point, the girls that are fatshaming are 1000% starving themselves right now because they’re insecure about becoming fat, they’re projecting so hard it’s pathetic
American high-school really living up to the stereotypes 💀
@@dob2664 starving yourself is worse than being fat. it'll kill you a hell of a lot faster than being fat will and if it doesn't kill you, it'll cause serious damage to your organs pretty quickly if you keep doing it.
Hey are you like, poor?
watching mean egirl drama is like watching 2 opposing parents fight at a football game
Except no dads
@@4d3c2b1a real
@@4d3c2b1a deadass fatherless behavior
that lily pichu bit is real though. just annoying sqeaky rat voice
@@awellculturedmanofanime1246 Weebs hate gays, but love little girls
as someone who is friends with some of the girls who were friends with them (they are no longer friends with these girls for obvious reasons), it was horrifying to watch this happen in real time, and watch my friends have to end friendships with people they thought were good people. This space on twitter is such a toxic ecosystem, and its so difficult to make friends in it for this exact reason. on the otherhand, there are plenty of lovely people in that community, but fake backstabbers like this lot, ruin it for everyone else. It hurts to see people we thought were friends and girls to look up to, turn out to be such horrible vile beings. Theres plenty of group chats out there (from my own experince) that were filled with the most wonderful, uplifting people. it sucks to see just a few girls give a bad name to a community we love.
All of that that you said, yes, but ! ! ! ! love your pfp of Death.
@@SeraphimxSins thank you!!!!!!
had a group of guys that really wasn't much better than this. I removed myself from that group entirely, not even entertaining people to talk to so idk where the ego comes from.
@@yonakatsu4878 legit
@@mothgardener tru real
Making fun of pichu's voice and then her becoming an actual professional voice actor is the funniest thing.
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not going to lie i laughed a little when she called lily autistic because thats like so dumb.
but when she said lily waas untalented i was like excuse me? how?? voice acter, makes music, artist, professional content creator. the last thing you can call her is untalented. it had to be copium
@@dannyg.4421 Right?! They're just throwing words around that mean absolutely nothing. TBF I was one of those that didn't really like Lily when I first saw her (which as a 10 sec clip) then started watching her more and could see why she became successful. She is truly talented, but also very humble.
@@threedog1421 not wanna be that guy then proceeds to be that guy hahahahaha dude i dont fkn trust a word you said that you know even one single person in real life when you talk about someone else like that. stop coping on the internet little fella no one believes you :D
@@dannyg.4421 also nothing wrong with being autistic (from an autistic person) :)
self satisfaction
The sheer amount of insecurity radiating from them is astounding. You know they have to really hate themselves so much to feel like they need to trash other ppl
makes me so sad to see because theyre all so beautiful too, at least on the outside. women really are so toxic to each other
@@mossicely that's actually normal woman behavior, especially for the types who like to dress up like this 😂 They always find the pettiest crap to get mad on.
The basis of their popularity and income is their appearance, so it makes sense
@@tkraid2575 That's usually what happens when you garner your appearance to appease chronically online teens.
@@tkraid2575 This is a human issue, not a woman issue.
I have a little sister in middle school. She’s “friends” with the pretty popular girls who act exactly like this. Nice to know when these girls grow up many of them become E-girls and perpetuate a culture exactly like middle school. Nothing makes me sicker than a woman who acts like this. Fake nice, they do know we can tell when you’re being fake nice right. Just sad.
Did your little sister realise that behavior too or are they still friends
@@AsianSwagMstr she realized there behavior was toxic and stopped hanging out with them. The problem is there is a huge desire in her to be popular so she still wants to be friends with them to accomplish that. When she stopped hanging out with them they started spreading rumors that she slept with a couple of boys and started calling her a wh*re
@@trundenthebad average highschool girls. Its not like going back will fix anything at all make sure she never does
I mean I'm not really sure if it's the popular ones in school that grow up to continue the behavior, although I might just be a bit too old to accurately say the situation for the current generation though. However as I remember it and notice it is that it's the ones that weren't part of such a group that act like this when they get the attention they didn't during younger years while e-girling
The video on atrioc is gonna be crazy
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There's no shot he makes one, that would be insane and tbh idk if there's any upside for him
@@cccfudge true
@@cccfudge but imagine
@@cccfudge he is making one later today
as an iranian guy who goes out protesting nearly everyday, i couldnt agree more.. this is the most important news
you don't realize how lucky you are to have a good government like Iran
@@youtubeuser206 yes I mean cmon he knows deep down his leader is a closet egirl who's just venting because he can't make an onlyfans he's just missed understood.
@@deadboltzz5199 missed understood
i hope you stay safe man
Thank you for protesting, ur a hero, dude. Your struggle paves the way to a better future, and if that isnt respectable I dont know what is
Ludwig always reporting on the most important news. Not all heroes wear capes..
Wrong channel
Except about rape allegations with Kai's friend eh. Wonder why.
Wait Lugwig is Mogul Mail? I though Mogul Mail killed Ludwig?
@@catnip202xch. no no, dont believe everything you see on the internet. this is mogul mail not ludwig.
@@GriziDaWizoh ok my b
i wonder if atrioc will be covered on mogul mail
Dont hold your breath =)
Me and atrioc doubling down. Bout to deep fake chat members moms into a back shot compilation
The anticipation for the next mogul mail is the highest it will ever be
we all know what video we're all waiting for
who knows, at the current pace of drama im sure someone bigger will be exposed in the next week or two and this will get swept under the rug lmao
I don’t think he will make it, it hits too close to home, atrioc is one of his best friends, and the situation has to boil down
@@BenAKAMrWalrus He said he was making one tonight
i genuinely hope he doesn’t cut atrioc off. i love the pros vs bros
The irony of them accusing Lily of being an e-girl and THEN becoming actual e-girls later on is just... **chefs kiss**
Her messages reeked of "hey I can do that too". lil sis aint no Lily Pichu and Lily doesnt even have to use OF to make her money ☠
It’s pure jealousy
@@nom6758 musically retarded people will never understand why someone who has talent gets supported more
@@nom6758 what's wrong with having an OnlyFans? How is one better than the other? I prefer Lily Pichu because she's funny and interacts with other influencers that i iike... that wouldn't change if she got an OnlyFans or never gets one.... Stop shaming people for having an OnlyFans...
Those people from the twitter group should be disliked for how terrible human beings they are... not because they have an OnlyFans
before i get accused of simping... Gay CIS Man here
@@LoFiAxolotl They are online prostitutes/strippers/whores. I dont care, any form of sex work is wrong and not healthy.
"I hate drama so much" always translates to "gimme the hottest tea before I go make some myself". Especially when a community/group advertises drama free environment, be 200% prepared for the drama.
The discord server that has "no drama" in the rules is always the one that has the most dramatic people lol.
"no drama" doesnt mean dont do controversial things, its normally a banner that the leadership doesnt want to deal with drama over whats said or done, I come from mmos, the leadership of "drama free" guilds always feel perfectly fine hitting on women in the guild even if they dont like it, but when they speak up and tell them to stop is when theyre "creating drama". happens basically every second fucking week.
Anyone who uses the word tea to refer to drama automatically wants to create that drama.
"I hate drama, it's just so annoying" = Give me all the drama, all the time, or I'm going to make some
it is ALWAYS the ppl who self proclaim "hate drama" i don't even understand what's the constant trait in these people yet, but when i find out, maybe ill b able to avoid them forever.
tbh i feel like it's something u don't need to bring up as it's assumed yk?
ngl ive been refreshing this channel constantly ever since the atrioc drama
Damn Nimsy is here?
waiting for the mogul mail on atrioc
ong
next Mogul mail boutta be crazy 💀
Originally I was like "How bad could it be?" Most group chats like that end up having some crazy shit getting said after all, I've definitely said my fair share of things in the group chat with the homies that should never be said in public, but saying that you want someone to attempt suicide or lying about someone giving you covid and calling you a slur is WAYYY out of pocket
As someone who's been in many group chats
Those are the most tame things said in a group chat
What takes this over the line is that they're actively publicly stating these things
They genuinely wanted someone dead or at least publicly ruined
Basically, once it leaves the group chat there's a problem
lol worst group chats i have is when i was a edgy teen n word spam but its more like me and the friends are being idiots id never frame someone to them being the cunt when its actually me
I mean maybe I suck but to me it's the opposite. It's the "she's fat" or "she's ugly" ones that read as obviously not jokes to me and just being awful. In my group chat I would say something so negative about someone when it's over something so minor that's it's obvious I'm joking so the ones that look worse I guess seem more normal to me.
@@theboss1829 part of it is because its public, but also the difference is normally stuff is said jockingly about people who are either in the group chat, or people who they are close to. This is behind people back and clearly malicious, and they clearly mean what they said.
nahh thats a super tame group chat
This is literally high school levels of drama with the mindsets of these people. They are all so fake and mean to each other and in general for no reason man, sad.
preach my man
don't know what high-school you went to.... but nowadays when you say shit like that in highschool you get kicked out...
Jealousy
i guess when your entire life/career is a popularity contest you feel the need to tear others down
people always say high school drama like anything changes when you graduate. just becomes office drama instead but its all the same no matter where people are. every pretty girl poops and every adult acts immature in different ways behind closed doors
how is lud going to mogul move his way onto the next mogul mail
Atrioc. 2 am.
well he did get in trouble with girls
"this apology was not AI generated" is both sad and sadly believable
AI would at least try
As someone who's spent a little time with ChatGPT and text generators, I can at least confirm that the only thing faked was that dude's screenshot.
I just think it's hilarious
The crazier part about all this too is the ones who did try to apologize, sent out the apology and THEN went to discord like Lud showed. So many more of those EGirls are getting called out too for stuff they’ve said or supported, some of the ones getting called out aren’t even in the initial group.
It’s amusing to see people like this get karma thrown at them like a brick to the face.
guy doesn't even know what karma means
@@alberteinstein8862 how do you have your name as Albert Einstein and you don’t know what karma is
@@tpoplays Haha. The irony
they said awful stuff about someone in private. Karma affects your actions. These were no actions. Just their thoughts expressed to some people. Karma doesn’t hit you for just having harmful thoughts. I'm not supporting these people. I dislike egirls in general.
@@Godspamit doesn't matter if it doesn't harm anyone. The non private ones are fair to say tho
Can’t wait for tomorrows episode on big A
the next video will be.. interesting to say the least
Just Speed Ran the thread and HOLY HELL the casual racism, the body shaming, the emotional terrorism. I was flabbergasted.
upvote for flabbergasted
Emotional Terrorism is such a Funny Word combination
@@Paangu l like flabbergasted 😊oh ya
Emotional terrorism sounds like statement youd hear in court
Idk I'm not surprised. Egirls who flaunt around about BEING egirls are always knobheads like this. I'm not shocked at all. I've never met someone who talks unironically about being an egirl who isn't exactly like these people. The twats aren't worth the time.
I think there's a difference when men and women argue for the most part, not only do women argue more petty than men, but they hold grudges a LOTTTT longer and actually try to ruin eachother. Men just insult eachother and make up in a few days. This is a good example of the difference
Source: Trans woman.
honestly kinda sad how the online environment made so many people so extremely toxic
All the internet did was expose it publicly
i think people are growing up weird with the internet. a lot of people nowadays have had unfiltered internet access from a young age and it just exposes you to a lot of different stuff at your very impressionable ages. its basically twitter and andrew tate teaching kids their morals and values. i think thats just purely because the internet is this new. our parents couldnt have known the effects of the internet but we, the ones growing up on it, do. i think its these newer generations job to properly have our kids grow up around the internet in order to prevent the extremes were dealing with today
Yeah I don’t think this was purely the online environment. I think it perpetuates what happens in person. Kids nowadays just can’t escape it when school ends which I’m kinda grateful I caught the tail end of.
Eh they probably where all ready toxic before the internet it's just easier to be openly toxic online due to there being not many consequences especially for people who stay anonymous
@@tsvh383 nice pfp 🐰🌱🔪
Atrioc Mogul Mail is about to go hard
doubt it. He's his good friend and Ludwig is going to go soft on him if he even mentions it at all.
Has he not even said anything on Twitter?
@@Cultural_Savant disagree, QT is pissed and clearly wears the pants in the relationship. If she wants him gone he’s gone
@@willjones9392 yep exactly what u said. Lud will 100% not say a word about any of this cause of QT. She was pissed when she tweeted about the deepfake vid of her lmaoooo I don’t blame her but I mean it’s literally a fake vid it’s not even like it’s really her. But yea it’s sucks and people are gonna be like “🤓well ur not a famous streamer so obviously you wouldn’t understand the social pressures and public backlash that such a video could cause to a person!” Loool it sucks that big A did a classic leaktrioc like always but I think people are making this out to be way bigger than it is. People watch porn it’s not that serious. And if you think it’s weird that it was of people that he knows then riddle me this, would you be curious if there was a deepfake of a girl you found attractive that u knew from ur college class or something like that? Yea exactly.. same situation
@@murky16 NO SHOT you're defending this CREEP 💀 The guy is 31 with a wife and a family and is paying money to get his FRIENDS & COWORKERS in horrible & disgusting situations with no CONSENT
you can really tell that the people in that group chat are so deeply insecure about themselves and in order to combat those feelings they found themselves in a community where they shit on others to make themselves feel connected to each other. It's a really sad trap to fall into and the fact that they doubled down really shows that theyre still kind of clinging onto that commodore.
wanting to be liked by others is such an infectious disease but its also extremely human of people, evolutionary and subconscious even. i agree with you that there is a culture online where you are forced to do certain things to appear morally just and correct but even then i still do kinda feel like there are creators online who *are* genuine and *do* want to do good, at least i know i try to be, but majority of the time those genuine people arent required to say they are that, they just do it yknow?
honestly i feel like no matter what these days when (not if, when) your skeletons get exposed and you have to write an apology for shit you did in the past its gonna get shat and clowned on no matter how perfect it is especially if youre apart of a marginalized group so really the only thing they could possibly do at this point in their situation is to take time offline or even move on from it and showcase that they have changed, itll take time and hurt money pockets but its so worth it in the end imo.
such inspiring words, can definitely feel the jealousy and desperation of the girls in the video. I hate how people try to feel connected by doing something they don’t even meant to do at the first place. Positivity is always a better solution in my opinion
i agree, i'm not trying to white knight the girls but rather than hating on them and saying how awful they are, i think there's more of an uncomfortable topic to be had about internet façades and how it meshes with the human psyche.
the internet itself is stressful, these girls may have said real awful crap, but that doesn't mean all of their niceness was ingenuine. a person's mood changes a lot in the course of a week and when you're in a superficial market, of course you'd have a crap ton of insecurities. not everyone has to have the same opinions and views, you don't have to support groups that make you uncomfortable (you still need to treat them with basic human respect), even if the whole of twitter tries coming down at you.
everyone deserves to have a safe space to vent and let out their negative emotions- people aren't always going to be kind and polite, that's just life- but the internet, of all places, is NOT the place to do it. something to note is that with the age of technology, those who are chronically online lose the ability to process their emotions because they chase dopamine on the internet, then, all that repressed thought and emotion just flood them and create a depressive/manic cycle. these girls really need to process things offline.
@@liben5052 Yeah, the internet is really like a digital Wild West.
Honestly might also be some kind of mental illness and the internet doesn’t help it at all
Yeah, this is like what’s happening to me and my ex friends lmao. They be doing what those egirls doing to me and my other friend… left group immediately
I really appreciate Lud for asking everybody to not say "They were ugly anyways", cuz that's what I see a lot online and it always rubs me wrong. Now I understand why lol
i mean they're super ugly human beings... if you find them aesthetically attractive or not depends on your taste... but objectively from their personality they're absolutely ugly
It's pretty obvious though. There's a saying that goes: two wrongs don't make a right, which is talking exactly about this. You just don't help anyone if you start calling them ugly
@brom right. I think it's also because people are quick to assign other people to "good" and "bad" categories. People can be incredibly talented or beautiful, and be absolutely awful on the inside. But if we don't like them as a person we want to tear them down instead of being unbiased and letting it be: that they're just awful people and despite having one or two good qualities they're still garbage.
It's completely incorrect to say anyway because they're still hot. They've just revealed that they're ugly on the inside though.
@Agfd these people are circle jerking eachother saying racial slurs and and literally saying some person needs to kill themselves, they wave all human rights at that point and there is nothing wrong with harassing them online I mean that's what they are doing already
Can’t wait for the next Mogul Mail!
Lud is like the perfect e news podcast content creator, we always get drama that we never looked for earlier but we watch the entire thing anyway. It's like aunty tea.
this is what happens when you inflate someone’s ego to the point where they feel like they can act however they want. their soul turns to bile
I dont think their soul turns into anything, it just shows their pure colors.
i think it was really insecurity and jealousy. as a girl, girls are the most ruthless when they are jealous and fuming with envy and its horrific to hear and be on the receiving end of that! i think they were insecure and jealous of the popularity/fame others were getting
Twitter is such a weird place bc everyone there is always weaponizing oversensitivity but also being very unapologetically offensive on the daily? The part where one of them said they wanted to fake being hatecrimed sums it up pretty well 😭
Yeah, twitter is weird, you can't fully explain anything to a meaningful extent, so people end up saying the clickbait line which needs and lacks the most context.
Gotta be honest, Twitter is weirdest, the most fucked up social media I've ever seen. The amount of hate in there is just so crazy, I recommend people to NOT use Twitter.
It's seriously a deplorable place. Glad I don't have an account nor do I check it. Best for my mental state lol
@@alistairt7544 I used to be pretty active on some fandom spaces, specially kpop and when I tell u I've seen the worst of the worst 😭 it's so crazy, ppl be spending WEEKS whining about a minimally offensive thing someone said 15 years ago that has no weight in real life then turn around and doxx/send death threats to ppl for no reason. Like u can smell the terminally online ppl from miles away, which is unfortunately everyone
@@samvimes2061 It's a great and quick reminder of how openly fucked a ton of people are online
Waiting to see the Mogul Mail on Atrioc lol
Same
Lmao the next video will also be drama. But it involves your friend this time. Waiting patiently for the new drama
I love how ludwig is covering the most important and influential topics in the world
@im sacred loved that very good
Ludwig would never. Mogul mail on the other hand...
Who’s Ludwig?
I feel like this is just the tip of the iceberg of secret egirl groups we don't know about lmfao
see my banner for cookies !?!?!?!?!?!
I dated one of these types of girls and yes they spew bad shit about people “close” to them and when that person decides they don’t want to be around them anymore they immediately play victim and try to guilt the other party for even thinking they shouldn’t be friends. It’s so fucking flawed and what’s worse is they are fully aware of the bad choices they make.
The ending is too real rn
I love that mainly the people behind this have anime pfp, really tells someone about the average life of an anime pfp.
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bitches be like uwu but be terrible human beings
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I learned about this today and thought to myself, who the hell thought this WASN'T happening? This happens in every workplace.
just found out about true crime… do people NOT think murderers exist? 😒
@@AsexTwin I don't think anyone is surprised that murder exists. But everyone I saw talk about this was surprised about this. Quite different.
who cares
@@alienboitv648 you
@@toat_ na just Ludwig, good try tho
wonder if he is gonna make a mogul mail about what happened with atrioc
He is. Coming out later today
@@roop94 how you know?
@@Hassan-zw9tb he said on twitter that he is
waiting for the next mogul mail lmao
we waiting
@@AngriestPandah he already said on twitter he is doing one tonight
@@AngriestPandah also moist already talked about it
@@AngriestPandah Moist literally talked about it for 45 minutes on stream yesterday
Shit was crazy. The girls that were made fun of in the gc are some actual nice people and it was horrible to see all that was said. They all went through so much and just have to be kicked while down by toxic and horrible people.
These people never grew up, this is some straight high schooler behavior.
@@thomasthepaintrain8880 I mean... are you surprised? How many tv shows have talked about the kid that became super popular at a young age, or got everything handed to them so they never developed any actual life skills are just lazy horrible people. Now think of that, but instead of life smacking them down once they grow up a little, they have thousands of people continuing to say oh you're so pretty here's some money. They're never gonna grow up if they're rewarded like that lol.
what's ironic is you don't know if they're actually good people or if they act like the girls in the group chat and just haven't been shown yet.
@@iliveinyourwalls5193 what’s ironic is I know the ones I’m talking about??? stop acting like you know me
@@Zayette do u really know then tho, are u sure after this video or are they fooling u too
listening to 4:43 out of context is actually hilarious
This happened to me in highschool with a group of girls. It began to grow like a wild fire. It got to the point where someone made a meme page of me making fun of me about drinking… you know what… and making fun of my mother and stuff. It’s a tad different but it got to the point where almost half the school knew about it and I’d hear people sharing in public and giggling about it behind me during class. I’m really lucky to still be here. But people like this are so hard to humble. It happens a lot more than you think. And a lot of individuals become subject to it no matter who some people portray to be.
Waiting for an atrioc drama mogul mail
Superecchi and usagi also had apologies. They were insane to read cause they threw each other under the bus.
It backfired and they deactivated or got suspended
They even tried to rebrand lol
@@_SHR00MY_ really? Haha that’s quick
@@broc1617 yep
do stupid shit, win stupid prizes
Of course they took zero responsibility, who could've guessed...
I really appreciated that you included yourself when talking about how influencers have a “buttoned up” personality online and that it’s not necessarily the whole picture. You don’t claim to be better than other creators which is a rarity these days.
i mean youre right and its nice he did it but then again this would be something someone in his position is better doing to look good to the outside. i dont really believe hes bad or anything but you cant just say hes good because he does the obvious "good". even the most nastiest people could do this because of course its a thing that will make you look better in the public eye.
i still remember seeing in alpharad's videos how ludwig had accepted an invitation to some event and cancelled at the last minute, and i thought to myself, wow ludwig can be kinda irresponsible at times, but i appreciated how human it made him feel.
@@AcIdBARRY But still, at least he is aware of what a good behaviour is, and that is still rarity :)
ayo atriocs is in some hot water right now
Man I thought this vid was going to be about Big A and was shocked Lud would do a vid on it.
Probably not, even QT on twitter demanded people stop talking about it and spreading the information around.
An apology means nothing to me.
Now I also don't care that they were (and probably still are in a new group chat) being mean, but all it shows is they are still willing to play the game.
Given the way they talk/act it's a game about status. You act formal when you're at work, you act social when you're in public; an apology (to that sort of person) is just following the rules in order to preserve their image. Someone wouldn't do the things they did if they had the capacity to turn on a dime and feel sorry for the person they were attacking. It would take time to break down their moral structure of the group they are/were apart of.
An apology means nothing to anyone online, all of twitter will just double down on you for it, no matter what it is, no matter what you're apologizing for, that's why you just shouldn't do it, period, it's always a bad idea. So what do you do then to not get canceled when you make a mistake? Hard question, but I'll be honest, i'd be FAR more impressed if one of these girls, instead of apologizing, had just doubled down, and said "this is who i really am in these DMs, don't like it, don't watch." Honestly if someone said that after getting exposed, it'd be such a breath of fresh air for me, that'd i'd actually consider checking them out after that lol.
@@thekamotodragon
Well I think that's what they call 'based'. It's not based to say what you think, but it is to stand by it.
Although she still would come off as petty, the ideal way is to not do anything you could be shamed for doing if it got out.
@@thekamotodragon Nah that ain't it man, an apology without actually "mean it" is better than not apologize at all. wdym "don't like it, don't watch" lmfao
@@sk-xg7rewtf???
@@thekamotodragon this honestly doesn’t change much the main thing is that they are cowards and insecure Bc they were being secretive on purpose. One of them coming out and saying this is who I am watch or don’t Watch honestly doesn’t change much they would’ve been like that from the start if they didn’t care abt their reputation so it’s just like them apologizing they would only say this after they got caught and on top of that it doesn’t make anything they did any better.
knew a friend group in college get torn apart from the exact same scenario (group chat, one person deactivated account, came back to see the gc had been shit talking her)
just goes to show that shitty people will be shitty people no matter what their life looks like
It's so common and sad. I wish we were all more authentic and able to break away from the "status quo".
Same thing happened to me. I left the group from my highschool batch because I hated having stupid notifications about their life story, and I hated them because they bullied me a lot for no reason. Fast forward 5 years later, a friend of mine who is still part of the group chat told me they were talking smack about me leaving, thinking that I'm better than them or whatever (just to note, we're not even friends! The audacity 😂). Some folks are just downright horrible people.
@criispy in a lot of online circles this is pretty common, but it depends on the community.
I wouldn't say it's everyone.
This whole convo is a lot more ironic with the new drama that has recently came out.
I wonder what else will be leaked in the next Mogul Mail
Outstanding point by Ludwig about the „being forced to act nice“ part.
Close to no one realizes that this is the case for UA-camrs, politicians, CEOs and pretty much everyone that is somewhat famous.
That’s why they are so shocked and often hate a person that is real, not knowing the people they follow and like are probably as bad or in other words also just a human…
Honestly I prefer people without the nice bullshit filter, makes em more relatable
Those final words hit different with the Atrioc apology this morning LOL
waiting for him to make a Atrioc lmfao. didnt post for 2 days.. i wonder tf will come
Wonder if Mogul mail will do an Atrioc video....
I don’t think we will see atroic anymore
dont mind me, just waiting for Lud to address the Atrioc shit lmaoooo
Wait, what happened?
@@ninalimonn9494 no clue, but read a different comment in this comment section that said he paid money for qt and pokimane deepfakes
Every time something like that comes out, I feel like i have to remind people that just because someone might be entertaining and successful doesn't mean they're a good person.
Honestly, my bar is ridiculously low. As long as the person that produces content that I consume keeps making the stuff I enjoy, I don't give a shit what they're like as a person
@@HandleToBeDetermined same
@@HandleToBeDetermined Yep, thats the only kind of way that people should be using platforms like youtube.
True, I don't even trust what ludwigs like honestly. None of these fuckers are decent people
doesn't really matter for alot of these girls as degenerate nerd losers will still be paying for their onlyfans
Controversial opinion: it's easier to not be a bad person, so like don't
a controversial opinion that shouldnt be controversial ^^^^
Right like just don't say anything? And if you do apologize and don't do it again?
Not me tho I wake up extra early to be a hater 🙏
Is the other way around, it's easy to be a horrible person. Just try to be good and do good people, it's better for everyone.
I think its harder to be a good person ngl. I mean having an actually normal and healthy moral compass helps but for the most part I think everybody realises that being a bad person gives you so many advantages and headstarts that from an objective standpoint, its easier to be successful if you betray, sabotage, lie etc. But most people also have atleast a semi-normal moral compass so yeah just don't be a shitty person.
Just waiting for the next mogul mail :)
Wonder what it is gonna be aboot
probably the deepfake atrioc debacle
@@truffleshuffle314 yeah obviously
@@Termina_ you think? i mean he is/was (i dont know anymore) best friends with atrioc
@@victorjarlund4192 it’s definitely something he will cover. I don’t see how he could go without making a video about it when it will probably be something his chat constantly spams him with if he doesn’t make a vid about it.
@@truffleshuffle314 wow thanks sherlock
Atrioc gonna be in the next mogul mail :(
You were absolutely right sir. Have a nice day.
this is like 2014-2017 tumblr but even worse because all of these girls have 100k followers on twitter instead of 1k on tumblr. there's gonna be some real life consequences over this 😭
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So the reason they comment on other girls photos is one of two things.
1) They want to be perceived in the "cute hello kitty princess" egirl niche, where they are super positive all the time and lovely people.
2) So they get free exposure. Especially if the original tweeter replies to their comment, they want people to see their name and check out their profile.
Evidentially, it's not them being nice. It's them trying to social climb.
the problem is this needing explaining
I hear a no shit incoming
I don't trust people who are positive all the time, never.
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Basically the classic social butterfly 😂
Oh boy, I sure can't wait for the next Mogul Mail PepeLaugh
Uhhh
10:40 atrioc moment
NO THE VIRUS MADE HIM PAY FOR THE EXPLICIT PICTURES OF HIS BEST FRIENDS GIRL AND IT ALSO MADE HIM ZIP HIS PANTS DOWN
Next mogul mail is going to be a doozy.
He better do a video on atrioc regardless him being a friend. That shit was weird
@@farhan70 he is doing one later today
@@farhan70 imo it was weird but not that weird. What was weird was his response
@@gigyro He should have made a Twitlonger instead of going live crying with his wife silently crying in the background
@@kronik658 yeah
I'm also going to be graduating from FIU soon and this is so sad to see how the gc talked shit to this sweet human
I think there are a good amount of people who need to limit their social media life
i am not excited for the next mogul mail. fuck.
Big A more like big L hehheheheha-**starts crying**
lesson fo rlife, if someone feels the need to tell everyone " they hate drama" it's because they're the type of person who always finds themselves in drama.....
actually true
not really. I've told people I dislike drama, and indeed the last drama I was directly involved in was in 2011 when I was in 6th grade.
I mean that’s not exactly a bad thing. People become involved in so much drama that they start hating it, aint nothing new
or they are just a Twitter user.
I don't understand how you all use Twitter normally without seeing drama every single day. I make friends? They retweet and talk about drama. I follow an artist? Drama. UA-camrs and streamers? Drama. Bots and image posting? idk. I start being very strict on who to follow? Still drama somehow.
I don't use Twitter normally. What I do is make Twitter lists and use any alternative front-end to the site that hides liked tweets and retweets. It works really well. It's not flawless but I don't complain.
I tried muting words. It doesn't work.
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"E-girls and drama: it goes together like Mogul Mail and subscribing" got me to sub lmao
Here waiting for the the next mogul mail on Atrioc
Lol same
fr haha
Probably not, even QT on twitter demanded people stop talking about it and spreading the information around.
Atrioc is next
I recently discovered lud from the smash invitational that he did and I was like okay I’ll watch a few vids to support…I’m subbed now. Whatever you’re doing is working and I wish you continued success.
The social dynamics in groups of women scare me
Fr lol
I thought men social groups were bad but this is on another level lol.
Aitroc drama let’s go
speaking of egirl drama..........
Yeah, I dealt with a similar situation with my ex and used-to-be close friends. Created a group chat, shit-talked and villainized me, and took everything EXTREMELY out of proportion. It really psychologically messed me up. The point of me saying this is to express myself as a human being that this is stuff that happens and what some people have to go through, I'm not saying this to cause more drama. If you're one of the unfortunate people going through this, just know that you're an amazing person, try not to let the situation ruin your brain, and get professional help. Regardless if you're the one not at fault in the situation, getting professional help is important to growing, understanding, and help be a better person overall.
Same! I get that person A may not like person B and thus feel like they need to rant but a lot of the times it just become a huge bitchfest and people starts getting satisfaction talking shit and creating false rumours. I have seen it happening throughout my high school, college, uni and even in work. It got to the point where person C hasn't even met person B but would talk nasty shit about them or actively try to ruin their reputation as if person B did something to them. I hope you are feeling a lot better now.
9:06 Oh no! As soon as I heard that sigh Mogul Mail must be a victim D:
can't wait for the atrioc mogul mail
Whilst not obligated to do so, and as it's a very personal topic, I'm interested to see how Lud approaches the Atrioc news. Hope everything's okay and you're working through it.
Heart goes out to y'all rn. You and Atrioc have been my go-tos for a year. It isn't an easy situation to deal with at all. There's so many ways to chop up and look at, but the best I can hope for is you are all having an adult conversation about it, where you all feel heard and hopefully understood. Goodluck to you all.
People would've forgotten in a week if bro watched ANYTHING other than deepfake stuff OF HIS OWN COWORKERS. He PAID MONEY to watch explicit videos of people he knows in real life, it wasn't just clicking on an ad. I would also like to mention that he watched it on the computer that he streams on instead of buying a laptop for that stuff. He brought this entirely upon himself and he deserves all the consequences for his actions.
@@Jay-uh6wq honestly this is creepy and cringy at most. it doesn't deserve to be blown out of proportion as it is now. Shameful? Yes. Crying over it while your wife behind you... That's a bit much.
@@BleachRush The one who suffers most here is definitely QT. I found this quote from DGG quite compelling:
"She's probably lost her handle on who she can trust and what portion of people around her are just lying to her. If she can't trust her partner's best friend to not pay for and support these sick people, then who can she trust? Even beyond the deep fakes, this clearly shows that Atrioc was more than happy to sexualize women who don't have that as apart of their brand/platform (Up until last year it seemed like Poki and Maya both intentionally avoided anything that could even be interpreted as a thirst trap). Clearly this was something that bothered her deeply before this happened, as people have commented that she pays a DMCA/clean-up service to take down fake nudes of her online. On a lesser level, this guy probably factors into most plans she makes personally given how close he is to Ludwig. Vacations and long-term planning could easily include Atrioc and his wife. When she closes her eyes and imagines her wedding, Atrioc is very likely the best man in that image."
@@Jay-uh6wq oh fuck when you put it that way.... Holy shit.
I was talking from an angle that sick fucks will keep making deepfakes of any Celebes, but when you put it in context of trust and how pressured those women are that can be sexualised so easily leaving no room to breath and having to be constantly on your feet .. I actually feel horrible now.
@Jay honestly, i wouldn't trust anyone in an industry that rewards narcissism and sociopathy.
Lud's Mogul mails are a good tea time watch keeps me in the loop of things
Mogul mail on Atrioc when???
He wont
mogul mail on Atrioc being a creepy weirdo when?
It all makes sense now…
Now I finally know why people get cancelled. It all starts in e-girl groupchats.
Wondering what the next Mogul Mail should be about
Atrioc next? :/
Calling out lilypitchu because she has anime voice meanwhile their entire personality is being cute and being egirl (so anime voice too) is the funniest shit ever lol, what do you think you are popular for lol?
Jealousy is a nasty emotion
11PM but I’m still here for that Mogul Mail upload yessir
4:30 am her
12:32 pm here
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We always talk about toxic masculinty, but we almost never talk about toxic femininity and this is a prime example of that.
6:00 that is the most direct and honest thing I’ve heard a streamer say. Thabks for being so open
Are you going to cover the Atrioc story on mogul mail?
So this is an example of the leaked group chat meme. Thank you internet.