Thanks for taking us thru the shock removal/install process so I ever feel or have the need. Surprisingly I'm really liking the stock air shock (I'm about your weight & I do 190psi). Take curb hits easy & makes the roughies totally bearable as I like my suspension firmer rather than plush. Regardless, I'm happy its such an easy & inexpensive replacement process & best of all, I know how to from your vid. Good stuff Marty. Tho I felt the ex30 was a tank at first, now with >600miles in, I really like it. The 'elevator effect' seems endless & so easy to ride fast. Almost feels like 40 is the new 30, mph that is. Speed isnt everything for me but full sends are. & the ex30 is made exactly for this purpose. It even impresses me offroad which is more than surprisingly considering how heavy this beast is. & the ex30 is a BEAST of a wheel, in the best way possible. Good vid bud
Thanks Scott. Yeah, I REALLY like the EX30 ride. It's probably going to be one of my main go-to wheels. Even if you want to stay with air but upgrade to something better, it's nice to know how easy it is to swap the shock.
Marty, tell me to harden the spring, i.e. to make it harder, you need to twist the spring to make it tighter or you need to loosen it and unscrew the spring to make it hard. I wish you a speedy recovery.... we are waiting....❤
Enginuatty and craftsmanship in this video Marty is wonderful. I want to do the same setup if I get my EX30 and I'm 240lbs dude without gear 😅 do you think I should just go with sherman S to handle my weight or this setup is enough on EX30. Also do you think the 200mm shock would work better? I'm leaning more towards buying the EX30. Finally, I'm not sure which batch of EX30 you have, but can you please make a video of your review about it after certain miles of experience with it? Thank you.
What keeps me riding hyper scooters is this EUC business of upgrading pedals, fairings, bumpers, pads, shock, and tire on day Zero to an already $4K wheel. An additional $900 to $1500 later and it's rideable. A used 2023 Ducati Monster 1K miles might be $8K. Not to mention all the EUC software or torque induced face plant injury and charging fire videos. I get a $4K scooter, put a phone and water bottle holder on for $40 and I'm rolling 50mph.
It's hard to go wrong with either one of those. From a practical point of view you can get the Commander Pro and EX30 for about a $1k less than the Sherman S. So there's that 🙂 Personally, I bought the EX30 because I prefer that suspension design.
@@ElectricUnicycles thank you for the breakdown. Makes sense but at $3k I prefer to spend the extra $1k if necessary… which begs the question, what advantage (if any) does the Sherman-S have over the other two options? I’m guessing build quality? Longevity? Nicer design and smoother ride? Heavier (denser) and more stable? Also, I guess the Master Pro is out of the running against these 3? Mostly due to QC?
@@EUC-NYC-GUY Not sure what you mean by QC differences between the Master Pro and the other wheels. The Master Pro is probably my favorite wheel due to its extreme comfort and long range capabilities. But for a more general purpose wheel wheel the other 3 are better. The EX30 suspension is very easy to change (both the linkage design and the shock type that you want to use). With the Commander Pro and Sherman S you're stuck with what they give you and if and of those suspensions break it'll be a lot more expensive to fix.
Hey Marty quick question for you i wanted to get a street tire for my master. But i dont know where to get one. I looked online and found smaller sizes but i cant find one. Where do you get your tires from?
Great tutorial video as usual Marty! I'm still waiting for my DNM coil shock to arrive to enjoy the "plushie" EX30. 😍 Do you have the same plush feeling on your EX30 compare to your Master with the same coil shock? Both are the same 1000 lbs shock, right?
how it feels riding? Isn't spring too weak ? because if you can put it down easy by hands, seems like spring will collapse under your weight all the way down
@@0xeb- Feels plenty stable for me. I have the same shock on my Master and it's still a great trail wheel. If you want a firm "sportscar" ride then don't change the shock.
Hey Marty. Quick question for you. I ordered the whole protection kit from grizzla for my master. But when it was delivered I noticed there was no screws and no spacer. Everything else was there. Now I have no way to put the system on the master. I contacted them but still no answer. I have no Idea how to proceed. Any ideas....
That's unfortunate. Clearly something was missed in the packing. hopefully you will have heard back from them within a day or so. Let me know if it drags on more than a couple of days.
Coil shocks have practically 0 upsides. I wouldnt consider it an "upgrade". Sadly placebo effect is really strong. Aswell as wanting to fit in. And the bias to appeal to the croud, ect ect. Its not like its a silly mistake, but is is a mistake. Instead I would recomend looking into an airshock with the added chamber at one side, that indeed is an upgrade assuming you can fit it on.
See the Description for a link to the 1000-lb coil shock that I installed
Any guideline how to select the spring rate? or just simply go with 1000 Lbs?
@@tithipunbunjong9891 The 1500 lb spring won't fit. Only go with the smaller spring if your riding weight is less than 150-lbs
@@ElectricUnicyclesLooks like 1000Lbs is what to go for me thank you
is it the 190mm?
@@ericspain9615 Yes
no complaints about your detailed video!
I really like to learn about different solutions you use to solve the issues
love watching Dawn happy bouncing on that wheel 😍
Best part of the video was when Dawn laughed in the end 😂. Great video Marty
Thanks for taking us thru the shock removal/install process so I ever feel or have the need. Surprisingly I'm really liking the stock air shock (I'm about your weight & I do 190psi). Take curb hits easy & makes the roughies totally bearable as I like my suspension firmer rather than plush. Regardless, I'm happy its such an easy & inexpensive replacement process & best of all, I know how to from your vid. Good stuff Marty. Tho I felt the ex30 was a tank at first, now with >600miles in, I really like it. The 'elevator effect' seems endless & so easy to ride fast. Almost feels like 40 is the new 30, mph that is. Speed isnt everything for me but full sends are. & the ex30 is made exactly for this purpose. It even impresses me offroad which is more than surprisingly considering how heavy this beast is. & the ex30 is a BEAST of a wheel, in the best way possible. Good vid bud
Thanks Scott. Yeah, I REALLY like the EX30 ride. It's probably going to be one of my main go-to wheels.
Even if you want to stay with air but upgrade to something better, it's nice to know how easy it is to swap the shock.
I also like to see the full steps on how things are done, and this will help me to do my wheel. Thank you.
Awesome video! Thanks Marty!
Dawn approved
Marty, tell me to harden the spring, i.e. to make it harder, you need to twist the spring to make it tighter or you need to loosen it and unscrew the spring to make it hard. I wish you a speedy recovery.... we are waiting....❤
Enginuatty and craftsmanship in this video Marty is wonderful. I want to do the same setup if I get my EX30 and I'm 240lbs dude without gear 😅 do you think I should just go with sherman S to handle my weight or this setup is enough on EX30. Also do you think the 200mm shock would work better? I'm leaning more towards buying the EX30. Finally, I'm not sure which batch of EX30 you have, but can you please make a video of your review about it after certain miles of experience with it? Thank you.
What keeps me riding hyper scooters is this EUC business of upgrading pedals, fairings, bumpers, pads, shock, and tire on day Zero to an already $4K wheel. An additional $900 to $1500 later and it's rideable. A used 2023 Ducati Monster 1K miles might be $8K. Not to mention all the EUC software or torque induced face plant injury and charging fire videos. I get a $4K scooter, put a phone and water bottle holder on for $40 and I'm rolling 50mph.
Good logic except for the small fact that the EUC ride experience is unlike any other :-) It's worth the money for some people.
Hello Marty. Thank you for sharing a Great video. i wonder if u know this shock will fit in the begode hero as well?
I'm not positive but I believe it will. That's my plan but I haven't had a chance to do it yet.
How do u know this shock fit ur ex30? Did u measure the length of it?
@@justintran2204 someone else had already installed it plus they use the same shock on their different wheels
Top 3 Wheels Right Now:
-Commander Pro -EX30 -Sherman S
If I can only have one, I’m going with…
It's hard to go wrong with either one of those. From a practical point of view you can get the Commander Pro and EX30 for about a $1k less than the Sherman S. So there's that 🙂
Personally, I bought the EX30 because I prefer that suspension design.
@@ElectricUnicycles thank you for the breakdown. Makes sense but at $3k I prefer to spend the extra $1k if necessary… which begs the question, what advantage (if any) does the Sherman-S have over the other two options? I’m guessing build quality? Longevity? Nicer design and smoother ride? Heavier (denser) and more stable?
Also, I guess the Master Pro is out of the running against these 3? Mostly due to QC?
@@EUC-NYC-GUY Not sure what you mean by QC differences between the Master Pro and the other wheels. The Master Pro is probably my favorite wheel due to its extreme comfort and long range capabilities.
But for a more general purpose wheel wheel the other 3 are better.
The EX30 suspension is very easy to change (both the linkage design and the shock type that you want to use). With the Commander Pro and Sherman S you're stuck with what they give you and if and of those suspensions break it'll be a lot more expensive to fix.
Marty, did you lose any suspension travel when you switched to the coil spring?
I didn't measure but based on the specifications of the coil shock that I used, probably 10mm. You can buy 200mm versions of the shock.
@@ElectricUnicycles thank you. Would you happen to have a link to the 200mm?
@@ElectricUnicyclesHi there! Do you have a link to a 200mm shock with the 1000lb spring? Most shocks I found are 200mm with either 750 or lower.
Hey Marty, I’m still worried that as heavy as I am, I am going to bottom out that coil
You're probably right. Unfortunately it's not a solution for everyone 😞
How many mm is the shock thanks for the video Marty
190
What was the aliexpress shock mentioned at 16:24? Not in a rush to upgrade so the waits not an issue.
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Note that I can't personally vouch for this shock since I have not used it.
Do you think something like the DNM Burner-RCP 2S will fit? Its does have a 190mm eye to eye & the coil should be exchangeable
It's been done but I'm not sure of the details.
How does the shock preform at high speed?
Sorry, I'm not a high-speed rider
Just installed the metal battery boxes on the Master pro, and it looks sharp. Do they make a direct liquid replacement shock?
The Master, Master Pro, EX30, etc. all use the same shock.
Hey Marty quick question for you i wanted to get a street tire for my master. But i dont know where to get one. I looked online and found smaller sizes but i cant find one. Where do you get your tires from?
I'm not what I affectionally call a "tire nerd" LOL so I don't change tires. Sorry I can't offer any advice.
Go for the Michelin pilot Street 2
Great tutorial video as usual Marty! I'm still waiting for my DNM coil shock to arrive to enjoy the "plushie" EX30. 😍 Do you have the same plush feeling on your EX30 compare to your Master with the same coil shock? Both are the same 1000 lbs shock, right?
It very much feels like my Master but "slightly" firmer due to the new linkage design. I love it.
can you set the coil shock to a firmer bounce? like the stiffness of airshock?
The shock has a rebound adjustment (see link in Description for details on the shock).
it has no compression adjustment. only rebound and preload
how it feels riding? Isn't spring too weak ? because if you can put it down easy by hands, seems like spring will collapse under your weight all the way down
If it were too weak I wouldn't be using it on my wheels. It feels softer than the firmer stock.
Is it better to have it that bouncy? You feel stable riding?
It's not bouncy unless you're sitting on the wheel jumping up and down :-)
@@ElectricUnicycles true but if you ride in a bumpy road, off-road and so on, how stable it feels?
@@0xeb- Feels plenty stable for me. I have the same shock on my Master and it's still a great trail wheel. If you want a firm "sportscar" ride then don't change the shock.
@@ElectricUnicycles thanks for the clarification. I still ride suspensionless, but I ride on paved roads mainly since I move back.
@@0xeb- Riding a non-suspension EUC is like riding a car without suspension. I really don't want to go back 🙂 Hopefully you can eventually upgrade.
190mmx24×24-1000lbs Is it okay to buy this?
190mm. See link in the description
Hey Marty. Quick question for you. I ordered the whole protection kit from grizzla for my master. But when it was delivered I noticed there was no screws and no spacer. Everything else was there. Now I have no way to put the system on the master. I contacted them but still no answer. I have no Idea how to proceed. Any ideas....
That's unfortunate. Clearly something was missed in the packing. hopefully you will have heard back from them within a day or so. Let me know if it drags on more than a couple of days.
Hey Daniel! Apologies, this is clearly a mistake on our part. I responded to your email, we'll obviously sent out missing parts after the weekend.
size??
See link in the the description for the shock
Someone should put master pro batteries on an ex30
👍
Coil shocks have practically 0 upsides. I wouldnt consider it an "upgrade". Sadly placebo effect is really strong. Aswell as wanting to fit in. And the bias to appeal to the croud, ect ect. Its not like its a silly mistake, but is is a mistake.
Instead I would recomend looking into an airshock with the added chamber at one side, that indeed is an upgrade assuming you can fit it on.
It works for me and that's all I care about. Hopefully the video shows how easy it is to install whatever shock makes you happy.
@@ElectricUnicycles Indeed I do appreciate that aspect of the video and that is why I follow the channel
This is what im scared about i am 120kg with gear and after buy high priced EUC i must "ubgrade" critical components and add stuf worth 1/3 price.
"upgrades" are just that. They aren't required. In this particular case the shock is $85, 2% of the cost of the wheel :-)