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In the beginning...There was light. Then the tent. Then the exhaust fan, circulation fans, added a humidifier, added a heater then a cooler. I started thinking their must be a better way. Good to see it's out there. The more I learn about growing the more my tent looks like a Frankenstein project...Thanks for posting
I love my Trolmaster hydro-x. Have had it for over a year now....to be able to automate and control everything by phone is great. Allowed me to leave my garden for several days without any problems.
I'm running the Trolmaster with the Thinkgrow Model H it works great together but it was pricey. It's super reliable and easy to operate and works with multiple name brand lights.
I have this. It's a good system but... very expensive for what you get to do with it. Somewhat limited with how you can control devices. It's not possible to have a fan operate to control humidity AND temp as they are different controllers. The data is nice to look at but no way to download it. Im much happier with my AC infinity fan controllers and Pulse Plus for data acquisition. Now I mostly use it to control the LED lights and run a pump. Still pretty over kill for a tent...
then its useless if no temp contol logic could be hook it up into this sysem as well as no data analyzes to download..what about any remote managment and operation?thx for sharing your experiance;-)
Sounds like a good idea. But more like an all in one printer. You are completely dependent on this controller. Also, smart plugs and WiFi devices, Bluetooth thermometer hygrometer, integrated apps, etc, make this obsolete kinda IMO. Still cool idea
J'ai un gse contrôler ec/ac mais celui ci a l'air d'être vraiment beaucoup mieux...en plus du par meter..impeccable.merci encore pour tes vidéos et passe une bonne semaine..
I was told by trolmaster to use two tsh-1 to control my intake n exhaust but I'm sure they only control humidity or temperature so I don't understand how it would really work with fans
Hello, really qualitative your reviews. Question: aray can be coupled to a Controller of the sunset type. And a 3 aray for 80cmx80cm is a good deal?........ Thank you
@@oweng2334 you need 2 inkbird monitors, the WiFi temp controller and the WiFi humidity controller. Together you can run heating ,cooling, humidifier and dehumidifier. With the app you can now program the settings to match vpd.
Yes, but nowhere near as commercially legit. People are far behind on those, and use cheap unreliable sensors. I did all that many moons ago and the controllers now are beyond that.. I also know people who code those (pinnacle SBNV grow controller in beta testing now)
the only one thing that was legit i found on Raspberry pi or arduino was automated pH.. but at the point china has been cranking those out for fishtanks so you might as well just buy a professional pH one that uses the swappable probes.
I’ve seen a few but the problem is you become completely dependable on the coders/developers & you also need redundancy and a lot of computer knowledge, kits like troll master are expensive & overkill for small home grow but they are reliable and simple to use compared with homebrew opensource software & Trollmaster is fairy priced compared with the competitors.
Just buy a raspberry pi, the sensors aren't that pricey and install mycodo in it if you want something like this. It can even mix nutes and ph your solution with the right equipment installed.
Yeah this how i run mine through home assistant, think all up cost 500 bucks. Trolmaster are a fucking rip off not many people will be able to get their head around the setup
Ahh the Migro Array, no you can't as there's nowhere to plug anything in. Also, the migro array only dims to 10% so you would need to switch them manually.
The trollmastsr is a great concept but some downsides. The TSH-01 fan speed controller isnt the best and as far as I can see, only does temprature and not humidity. The LED controller is awesome as well. I'd like to see more options where it comes to network configuration. ATM, you just plug the cable in but no manual setup etc. If you're not running DHCP then you can't do networking.
I highly suggest you research SBNV Pinnacle Grow system.. he's in closed beta for it (crushes TrolMaster, because he was so tired of lack of support and innovation he is coding it himself here live often now.. SolventlessBakenVape, he is coding Pinnacle grow system to crush trolmaster)
@@dertythegrower with how cheap hardware has become I'm surprised I've not seen more controllers appear on the market. The trollmaster isn't terrible but the integration between modules ain't great. Not sure what protocol they use or how things are implemented but it's pretty basic. That's why you need all the LCD screens (one for each module). It would be nice to see better integration between modules etc. It's like they've done the bare minimum to get things working. I'll take a look at what SBNV has been up too. His website sucks though lol 50% of pages are broken within Mobile. AC Infinity does a decent job but their stuff is all over USB and proprietary. If people want this stuff to be successful then people are going to have to agree to use a standard. Looks like 0-10v PWM is kind of winning but we will see.
Sir Derty ♦ pritty sure he pays a coder dude I’ve listened to him saying that. I thought he was system admin guy not a coder. I Could be wrong, you been following him longer than I.
@@420mFuk if he's an experienced systems administrator then the jump into programming this stuff is relatively small. Saying that, there's a big difference between producing something on the bench and turning that prototype into a saleable product. I'd like to see more use of something like Zigbee and loose some of the wiring.
What I hate about all these trollmaster videos is they all just show you the controller and the different sensors and plugs. They then just scroll through the menus on the ECS. They don't show you HOW to attach a light to the LMA adaptors or what actual devices/machines can be used with the different plugs (eg. You need stuff that act in a very binary way - if it has power, it turns on and performs the function... if not, then it shuts off). Eg. Don't use a humidifier plug for a humidifier that when switched on, just sits in waiting when power is supplied, requiring you to press a button to actually turn it on and then another button to start it's function (like most modern electronic appliances). That's all these plug attachments are: Give the device power when certain parameters are met or switch them off at other times. You also need a PHD to understand what to do to setup and program these things and there is a shocking lack of clear instructions or online video demonstrations. Definitely not for a beginner. Not even the local sellers/distributors can provide much help and need to send questions to some representative. AC Infinity seem to have understood this and try to make things that work well together, so there's no hassle. The only downside is the quality of the grow tent itself.
Hate trolmaster. Overpriced junk. Sensors come off calibration multiple times a day, old out of date equipment. Hopefully the pinnacle changes that for us.
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In the beginning...There was light. Then the tent. Then the exhaust fan, circulation fans, added a humidifier, added a heater then a cooler. I started thinking their must be a better way. Good to see it's out there. The more I learn about growing the more my tent looks like a Frankenstein project...Thanks for posting
I thought abought a breathing mask connected to my intake during sleep :D
CO2 came before the tent.
than there is a controller to control the controller... it never ends!
Maybe Shane will do an AC Infinity controller look-see also..
I love my Trolmaster hydro-x. Have had it for over a year now....to be able to automate and control everything by phone is great. Allowed me to leave my garden for several days without any problems.
I'm running the Trolmaster with the Thinkgrow Model H it works great together but it was pricey. It's super reliable and easy to operate and works with multiple name brand lights.
You the man Shane. I appreciate every video you put out. Very insightful when it comes to making choices you are unsure of. Thank you.
I started with the hydro X and upgraded to the hydro X pro wouldn't go back if you paid me money love the pro
Looks like a nice kit. Much appreciate decent length cables!
Seems to be good for really big grows, a bit over kill for home growers. ✌️
Used by homegrows AND 300 light commercial grows (both worked with)
Great for a room overkill for a tent imo
@@winstonpratt604 depends on the size of tent. A 8x8 would do well with this.
@@bjdr2001 well yeah or 10×10 but that might as well be a room
I have this. It's a good system but... very expensive for what you get to do with it. Somewhat limited with how you can control devices. It's not possible to have a fan operate to control humidity AND temp as they are different controllers. The data is nice to look at but no way to download it. Im much happier with my AC infinity fan controllers and Pulse Plus for data acquisition. Now I mostly use it to control the LED lights and run a pump. Still pretty over kill for a tent...
then its useless if no temp contol logic could be hook it up into this sysem as well as no data analyzes to download..what about any remote managment and operation?thx for sharing your experiance;-)
Sounds like a good idea. But more like an all in one printer. You are completely dependent on this controller. Also, smart plugs and WiFi devices, Bluetooth thermometer hygrometer, integrated apps, etc, make this obsolete kinda IMO. Still cool idea
J'ai un gse contrôler ec/ac mais celui ci a l'air d'être vraiment beaucoup mieux...en plus du par meter..impeccable.merci encore pour tes vidéos et passe une bonne semaine..
do your research before you buy, from growers who are NOT sponsored by trolmaster, the choice is yours, is your money :) there are alternatives
What do you recommend
How much?
In case of a greenhouse could we dimm the lights depending of the ppfd of the sun ???
I got one and returned it, cuz you have to have an outlet for everything and I mean everything ....
I was told by trolmaster to use two tsh-1 to control my intake n exhaust but I'm sure they only control humidity or temperature so I don't understand how it would really work with fans
Will it control the uv and ir switches on the geekbeast pro 630w?
Hello, really qualitative your reviews. Question: aray can be coupled to a Controller of the sunset type. And a 3 aray for 80cmx80cm is a good deal?........ Thank you
Can I call you?
I have so many units and equipamento I bought and I can’t figure some of them
Would i be able to hook my ac,dehumidifier and humidifier all 2 the device and control it and set parameters?
Yes
Amazing products 💯🔥
If this is out of your price range we could also get a inkbird to control your VPD, well to help you control
Yep. If you get the Wi-Fi inkbird and the accompanying app you can program multiple settings for night/day changes in humidity,temps,vpd.
This
@@smeghead7698 which Inkbird controller lets you control VPD?
@@oweng2334 you need 2 inkbird monitors, the WiFi temp controller and the WiFi humidity controller.
Together you can run heating ,cooling, humidifier and dehumidifier.
With the app you can now program the settings to match vpd.
@@oweng2334 it's the app used that allows multiple settings to be programmed.
Is that possible to organise same kind of setting with Pi Rapsberry?
Yes, but nowhere near as commercially legit.
People are far behind on those, and use cheap unreliable sensors.
I did all that many moons ago and the controllers now are beyond that.. I also know people who code those (pinnacle SBNV grow controller in beta testing now)
the only one thing that was legit i found on Raspberry pi or arduino was automated pH.. but at the point china has been cranking those out for fishtanks so you might as well just buy a professional pH one that uses the swappable probes.
I’ve seen a few but the problem is you become completely dependable on the coders/developers & you also need redundancy and a lot of computer knowledge, kits like troll master are expensive & overkill for small home grow but they are reliable and simple to use compared with homebrew opensource software & Trollmaster is fairy priced compared with the competitors.
Just buy a raspberry pi, the sensors aren't that pricey and install mycodo in it if you want something like this. It can even mix nutes and ph your solution with the right equipment installed.
Do you have any more info on this subject?
I’ve bought a raspi awhile ago but got frustrated with it bc I suck at computers haha
Yeah this how i run mine through home assistant, think all up cost 500 bucks. Trolmaster are a fucking rip off
not many people will be able to get their head around the setup
@@trav1653 I have all the necessary equipment and sensors already but don’t know where to start. Any advice?
@@chroniccare409 check out the LED GARDENER on youtube he has video of his builds and where to get all the code via github
Awesome I'm getting some now woohoo 🎉
And use a Cielo for you WiFi AC unit.
The hydro stores have all that 200 us dollars and get the 69 Xfinity controller. In may. All have a app from the phone WiFi 😃😃
Definitely worth it.
Can I connect an Array to it? Which adapter?
Nope
Ahh the Migro Array, no you can't as there's nowhere to plug anything in. Also, the migro array only dims to 10% so you would need to switch them manually.
Thanks for making these video’s. Have a good day!
Corrected, thanks
The trollmastsr is a great concept but some downsides. The TSH-01 fan speed controller isnt the best and as far as I can see, only does temprature and not humidity. The LED controller is awesome as well. I'd like to see more options where it comes to network configuration. ATM, you just plug the cable in but no manual setup etc. If you're not running DHCP then you can't do networking.
I highly suggest you research SBNV Pinnacle Grow system.. he's in closed beta for it (crushes TrolMaster, because he was so tired of lack of support and innovation he is coding it himself here live often now.. SolventlessBakenVape, he is coding Pinnacle grow system to crush trolmaster)
@@dertythegrower with how cheap hardware has become I'm surprised I've not seen more controllers appear on the market. The trollmaster isn't terrible but the integration between modules ain't great. Not sure what protocol they use or how things are implemented but it's pretty basic. That's why you need all the LCD screens (one for each module). It would be nice to see better integration between modules etc. It's like they've done the bare minimum to get things working. I'll take a look at what SBNV has been up too. His website sucks though lol 50% of pages are broken within Mobile. AC Infinity does a decent job but their stuff is all over USB and proprietary. If people want this stuff to be successful then people are going to have to agree to use a standard. Looks like 0-10v PWM is kind of winning but we will see.
Sir Derty ♦ pritty sure he pays a coder dude I’ve listened to him saying that. I thought he was system admin guy not a coder. I Could be wrong, you been following him longer than I.
@@420mFuk if he's an experienced systems administrator then the jump into programming this stuff is relatively small. Saying that, there's a big difference between producing something on the bench and turning that prototype into a saleable product. I'd like to see more use of something like Zigbee and loose some of the wiring.
To compex for me
Guess there must be a lot of “TOL ROADS” in Ireland lolz :) Shane paid so much he’s a Tolmaster now.
What I hate about all these trollmaster videos is they all just show you the controller and the different sensors and plugs. They then just scroll through the menus on the ECS. They don't show you HOW to attach a light to the LMA adaptors or what actual devices/machines can be used with the different plugs (eg. You need stuff that act in a very binary way - if it has power, it turns on and performs the function... if not, then it shuts off). Eg. Don't use a humidifier plug for a humidifier that when switched on, just sits in waiting when power is supplied, requiring you to press a button to actually turn it on and then another button to start it's function (like most modern electronic appliances). That's all these plug attachments are: Give the device power when certain parameters are met or switch them off at other times. You also need a PHD to understand what to do to setup and program these things and there is a shocking lack of clear instructions or online video demonstrations. Definitely not for a beginner. Not even the local sellers/distributors can provide much help and need to send questions to some representative. AC Infinity seem to have understood this and try to make things that work well together, so there's no hassle. The only downside is the quality of the grow tent itself.
Nice but too much money when we have raspberry pi’s.
How do you control a power socket with a pi?
👍🏼🇮🇪
Is someone scamming you views with contest winnings?
Trolmaster is cheap Chinese plastic that half works and overpriced ask a couple of people that has all that stuff
I have it and works well. Controlling temp and humidity and CO2 so far without a hiccup
It already looks pricey. It might be worth it...
Sensors look cheap and nasty
Hate trolmaster. Overpriced junk. Sensors come off calibration multiple times a day, old out of date equipment. Hopefully the pinnacle changes that for us.
You can’t even turn lights to “on”… you have to set it to a timer 🤦♂️ these are absolute junk