@ShockwaveFPSStudios I Hope After Secret Wars The Reboot Of The Mcu The New Mcu Will Be A Marvel Cinematic Universe Version Of Scott Johnson Super Hero Squad I Hope That Happen
@@arpitamajumdar6207 that’s what secret wars essentially is. a soft reboot of the universe. though with the mcu, they can use it as a way to hard reboot the universe and bring back iconic dead characters, all possibly played by different actors in order to make it a whole Marvel complete universe since they now have all the rights to their characters
Y'know, I don't hate this idea. Ultron is a massive threat in the comics, and the movie version barely scratched the surface. However, I would simply just make the tone of Age of Ultron much darker and less forgiving rather than take away Thanos and the impact he had on the audience. Still, this is a pretty interesting idea.
Also, I would remove time travel from his pitch for Endgame. It's Just way too important to defeat Thanos and the fact that It doesn't work like in back to the future Is extremely important in both the comics and the MCU.
@MartinMarsanotime travel in the MCU is an absolute mind-boggling thing that doesn't make sense at all. I do agree that back to the future makes some more sense as affecting the past will change the future. What's even more wild is that in the comics it works the same way as back to the future. I'm guessing the Russo Brothers just want to be different from all the other movies with time travel.
I think that keeping Loki involved with Thanos could be a potential hint toward the next saga after the Ultron saga, but this was still a pretty cool scenario. Keep up the good work man
I think this is actually quite a solid idea. Having Ultron as an Earth based villain, then having Thanos being the space villain, then having Kang as the entire multiverse is at stake seems like a very natural progression, and shows the Avengers’ rise in power
Basically, even with the lack of access to the X-Men and the Fantastic Four, and the limited access to Spider-Man and the Hulk, the saga is much more focused on the Avengers than the Infinity Saga.
@@mrfox9090 he did my guy, even a simple google search will tell you that, you dont even need to read the comics, just search who built ultron in comics
and would give his character something to actually do in the eyes of movie viewers. i’ve just always hated how they skipped immediately to Scott as Antman and never told the story of Hank and Janet as Antman and the Wasp.
Wow. This is very impressive. I wasn’t sure how this saga could work with Ultron as the big villain instead of Thanos but unsurprisingly, you found a way to make it work. Great job.
Have to say, I think I probably would have liked this better for the first official saga of the MCU. It just kind of shows how quickly they chose to escalate things up to a cosmic-level threat like Thanos with their decision to base the first saga around the Infinity Stones over a more grounded villain like Ultron, who I know to be much more closely connected to The Avengers in comics. And I guess another reason I would have liked this better is because Tony didn't have to die at the end of this saga. Hank does, but at least this version of events would have already had Scott as his established successor for carrying the Ant-Man mantle much like the actual MCU.
See i feel your just being slightly biased. Peter is already set up as iron mans successor, so that point about antman is void. And secondly, you complain that Tony died, but who knows, maybe Hank Pym would have been a better written and more loved character and his death would feel worse.
Next video: "What if Kang was the villIain of a saga revolving around TIME instead of the multiverse?" (You can do a lot of of creative stuff with this one: you can introduce heroes and teams from the golden age, like the Liberty legion, the All winners squad, the Twelve, etc... or characters from the far west, like Two gun kid, Ringo kid, Kid Colt, Rawhide kid, the Gunhawks, etc... or characters from the future, like Maestro, Cable, Bishop, etc...) And have him be the big bad TIL THE END, without being upstaged by Doom or some other villain. Give him the MAIN spotlight, because he deserves it.
You do know that Kang was going to be the main villain till the end right? It's his irl actor that got into legal trouble which forced marvel to reroute to Dr Doom, contributing as one of the many many factors that made this era their flop era
@peapod5629 Yes, but in his pitch for the Kang dynasty he had Kang get killed by the Beyonder alongside all his variants, which Is the most disrespectful send off he could've ever given to the character.
WandaVision would be about Wanda missing Simon, her lover, and being too emotional with Vision, rushing their romance. She alters reality several times without knowing about her magic since her powers were psychic and probability, even causing them to get married and have children. After the end, she and Vision make up, she accepts Simon's death and everything goes back to normal, but the lack of Billy and Tommy destroys her. In the end, instead of using the Darkhold across the Multiverse, she does something to pair herself with the Reality Stone, making Billy and Tommy real. But the other Infinity Stones feel the reaction and create a chain reaction, so as not to alter time and space again, they use the Soul Stone to make them reincarnate. Thanos, feeling the reaction created by the future Scarlet Witch, finds out about the six stones and in the future we discover that he went after them thanks to Wanda's actions. The new saga is about the Infinity Stones from there on, the Tesseract and Loki's Scepter retcons happen here, and Wanda and Vision learn about love by the end of the saga. The next saga could be about young heroes, like Wanda's children who would probably already be teenagers by the end of the saga, thus beginning the Young Avengers Saga 3. Just an idea ♥️🤣🤣
I can't tell you how much I would have loved for Hank and Janet to be part of the MCU from the jump. Maybe it's my love for the Avengers EMH show, but man I would have loved the dynamic they could have brought. And Ultron's relationship to Pym is much more interesting. I really enjoyed the story you took us on here as well. Very thought out.
Love it! So dark, serious, intense, and a version of animated Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Can't wait to see your version of the Infinity Saga, Black Lion!
@@MartinMarsano i would go to five sagas and make Apocalypse the main threat there with obviously the X-Men taking center stage. hell, you can do Mister Sinister or Dark Phoenix instead cause the mutants offer a lot
@@MartinMarsano he’s not that closely connected to the Avengers though. he’s more so connected to the Fantastic Four than anyone else but with the mcu’s lack of rights to their characters in the first saga, they definitely should’ve made Ultron the main villain of the first saga . he’s their archenemy and closest threat there is tbh. U can have Thanos right after him in the second saga while introducing the FF and Doom in the same saga then making them the focus of the third saga, etc…
I'm gonna be honest at first I found this strange but then when I watched I liked how you covered something that other UA-camrs haven't maybe keep up this experimental approach
I think ultron should have been a bigger threat. The first saga could be: age of ultron saga The second saga: thanos the mad titan saga The third saga: kang Dynasty saga The fourth saga: Doomsday saga The 5th saga: The Galactics Saga Having those villains as the main villains of those 5 sagas would be great.
The Defenders could be named Force Works instead. That group was an offshoot of West Coast Avengers after Civil War and were featured in the Iron Man animated series.
I would call them "Revengers" instead. It sounds better than "Force works" and it's a team to which at least one of members is connected to in the comics. Also I would replace Rocket with Captain Ultra, because I don't like the idea of every single talking animal being an experiment of the High Evolutionary.
I think you should do a Part 2 to this video with Phases 4, 5 and 6 being called the Infinity Saga. I want to see cosmic characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy, Nova, Adam Warlock, Thanos, the Kree including Ronan the Accuser and the Black Order.
Fascinating. I love Ultron as the big threat, I like the way we more or less get the original Avengers lineup and the focus on Hank. I wonder... as we understand in one way or the other we can expect that the real world Multiverse Saga will end by in one way or another rebooting the MCU to properly integrate the X-Men and Fantastic Four. If you do make part 2 as the infinity Saga, I wonder if it'll be the infinity gauntlet reshaping reality, resulting in these new characters emerging.
I made up my own MCU a year ago just for fun and thought of making Ultron the main villain of the first saga, too. I'm happy to see someone thought of the same thing. 😄 Like there are some ideas here that coincided with mine like having Baron Zemo and the Masters of Evil be the main adversaries of Phase 2.
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@@robloxfellow guess we’ll just have to wait and see if he makes a part 2 to this universe. maybe the events that happened in the actual infinity saga will happen there and some elements of phase 4 and 5 (mostly the cosmic stuff) could also occur like having the Guardians form with Rocket as leader, mutants slowly become more global like Namor and Ms. Marvel, Thunderbolts forming, and Wanda becoming Scarlet Witch all before Thanos comes in and fucks shit up
Dude i fkn love your videos you should do how you would complete the multvierse saga with the confirmed movies and series but also choose which movies the untiteld are
My main problems with age of Ultron were 1) tony stark creating ultron (hank creating ultron feels much more personal) 2) It felt too soon for Ultron in the MCU. The second ever threat faced by the Avengers was created by an avenger himself 😐which kinda felt weird imo, Ultron being the villain of the third avengers film would've been better imo That being said, I still like age of Ultron
I'd love a sequel, this is a great project. Hank dying in the final fight instead of Tony is a great mirror, however if Tony still has his character arc in similar beats, not sure how good him coming out of retirement would be, it would take away from the space all his successors (War Machine, Spider-Man, Ironheart and Harley specifically, can't think of others) have. Maybe he suffers a debilitating injury while distracting Ultron for Hawkeye?
If Edgar Wright had been able to make it work, he didn’t want to have to think about a connected universe just wanted a single film. If he had made a film with Hank and Janet in Phase 1 and then eventually had Tony and Hank work on Ultron together mainly instead of Tony and Banner that could’ve been dope!
Some ideas I would like to see: X-Men Cinematic Universe (like an earlier video but with only mutants this time) MCU but only characters they didn’t have from the beginning DCEU but they sold the rights to their most popular characters (remake) Spider-Man Cinematic Universe Batman Cinematic Universe Part 2 MCU with Thanos as main villain of second saga (part 2 of this vid lol) The Arrowverse but they have rights to all the characters (The Batverse?) Edit: Ooh! Another one I keep forgetting is: A DC cinematic universe that isn’t restricted to DCEU franchises So you’d include more characters that are relevant to the overarching saga Edit 2: Yo he actually did that last one
I like this more than the infinity saga we got, but now with you using plot beats like time travel in end game, I would be very curious to see what your plan for more phases after this would be?
To be fair, even though they were building towards Thanos, I don’t think they had the whole saga surrounding a big bad figured out yet. Civil War is a good example of this. Pretty sure that’d be an Avengers movie today.
Despite the first MCU saga being called… the Infinity Saga, I sincerely think that Phases 1-3 had a recurring villain. Phase 1 had Loki, Phase 2 could arguably be Hydra, and Phase 3 had Thanos. Personally Phase 2 didn’t really have a recurring villain, but if we had the Nando order then Iron Man would’ve been the main villain of Phase 2.
I actually really like this idea, especially the Master of Evil movie. That’s a movie we need. I do like Tony Stark’s sacrifice in endgame tho, but we can have that in the Infinity Saga
Here’s an idea similar to this: What if instead of the first saga being about thanos and the infinity saga, what if we started right away with the multiverse in the MCU
What if DC sold the rights to their biggest characters like Marvel did and the DCEU was built off smaller characters like Blue Beetle and Green Arrow, kinda like the arrowverse (edit) Also please sequel infinity saga video I need it
While its genius to have a version of the Defenders take the place of the Guardians of the Galaxy, the line should be a bit different. Vol. 1: Wonder Man, Hellcat, Machine Man, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, & Howard the Duck (whose origin would be explored in the Infinity Saga). The villains would be AIM. Vol 2: Wonder Man, Hellcat, Machine Man, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Howard the Duck, Hawkeye, Mockingbird, Tigra, & Valkyrie (this version of Valkyrie would take more inspiration from her Ultimate Universe self, where she was a normal person before receiving powers from Loki). The main villain would be the Grim Reaper. Vol. 3: Vision, Hellcat, Machine Man, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Howard the Duck (He would take Rocket’s origin and connection to the High Evolutionary), Hawkeye, Mockingbird, Tigra, Valkyrie, & Darkhawk (who would take the place of Adam Warlock). The main villain would be the High Evolutionary, and this movie would have the Defenders going to space to rescue Howard after he was injured. The post credit scene of Vol. 3 would be a set-up for the West Coast Avengers.
Pretty neat Idea. Could you perhaps do a video on a proper multiverse saga? Ive daydreamed about how a properly done multiverse saga would have looked like, with inclusions like Ghost Rider, Nova, and even Squirrel Girl in the MCU.
It's great. Would be better if you make AIM the main villain of Ironman 3 instead of fake Mandarin, with Blizzard, Melter, and Living Laser being their experiments created from Extremis. Also Thor Ragnarok should be more like the original Ragnarok storyline. And maybe give Hulk another solo movie in the form of Planet Hulk. Lastly the Kree shouldnt be all bad, and Skrulls shouldnt be shown solely as victims, instead the both of them should be shown as morally grey. And the original Mar-Vell should be Carol's mentor. Who does inspiring Carol.
Okay this alternate version is really cool, but I still feel thanks was the best choice as the big bad, maybe we could’ve ultron hint at still being around at the end of “ age of ultron” .
One thing about the time travel doesn't make sense to me (and it's why I think it really worked for Endgame). If the heroes split into groups, wouldn't the actions of the heroes that changed events from furthest back affect the timeline for those who went closer to the present? Like, if three groups went to 2012, 2013, and 2014, and the heroes from 2012 changed something, wouldn't it affect the 2013 and 2014 groups? And therefore, they couldn't really predict in which ways events would unfold?
Apparently, each point in time was an alternate timeline instead of the exact same one. Especially because we saw 2012 Loki escape with the Space Stone, but 2013 Loki was shown in Asgardian prison.
@SecretMagician Yes. For Endgame, that's how time travel worked. That's why I'm saying that what The Black Lion is suggesting for time travel rules wouldn't work, whilst Endgame's rules did because of the alternate timelines
@@Deadpool-mcu2024 he also mentioned that Spider-Man 3 in this version of the MCU won't be No Way Home, but a Sinister Six movie, as it took till Captain Marvel to reach the cosmic side of the MCU
Weeks ago, I rewrote the MCU without Spider-Man, Hulk, Wolverine, the X-Men, and Fantastic Four, all while using the Defenders, Inhumans, Midnight Sons, giving Black Widow and Hawkeye movies, and using Ultron as the Saga’s big bad
if he is then i need him to go back to 2008 and tell Marvel to do the Ultron Saga instead of the Infinity Saga cause i’d definitely would have wanted this instead of what we actually got sometimes
Making Ultron the main antagonist like that really turns the MCU into a cinematic universe version of the Earths Mightiest Heroes cartoon. So cool!
And since Doom’s now the main villain of the Multiverse Saga, that means the MCU is now currently a cinematic version of the Super Hero Squad cartoon.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiossolo que se invirtieron los papeles y pasamos de Thanos a Doom
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I Hope After Secret Wars The Reboot Of The Mcu
The New Mcu Will Be A Marvel Cinematic Universe Version Of Scott Johnson Super Hero Squad
I Hope That Happen
@@daveninavathere will be a reboot?
@@arpitamajumdar6207 that’s what secret wars essentially is. a soft reboot of the universe. though with the mcu, they can use it as a way to hard reboot the universe and bring back iconic dead characters, all possibly played by different actors in order to make it a whole Marvel complete universe since they now have all the rights to their characters
Y'know, I don't hate this idea. Ultron is a massive threat in the comics, and the movie version barely scratched the surface. However, I would simply just make the tone of Age of Ultron much darker and less forgiving rather than take away Thanos and the impact he had on the audience. Still, this is a pretty interesting idea.
Also, I would remove time travel from his pitch for Endgame. It's Just way too important to defeat Thanos and the fact that It doesn't work like in back to the future Is extremely important in both the comics and the MCU.
@MartinMarsanotime travel in the MCU is an absolute mind-boggling thing that doesn't make sense at all. I do agree that back to the future makes some more sense as affecting the past will change the future. What's even more wild is that in the comics it works the same way as back to the future. I'm guessing the Russo Brothers just want to be different from all the other movies with time travel.
I think that keeping Loki involved with Thanos could be a potential hint toward the next saga after the Ultron saga, but this was still a pretty cool scenario. Keep up the good work man
I think this is actually quite a solid idea. Having Ultron as an Earth based villain, then having Thanos being the space villain, then having Kang as the entire multiverse is at stake seems like a very natural progression, and shows the Avengers’ rise in power
Remember when they made a dark version of the song "I've Got No Strings" for the Age of Ultron trailer?
Basically, even with the lack of access to the X-Men and the Fantastic Four, and the limited access to Spider-Man and the Hulk, the saga is much more focused on the Avengers than the Infinity Saga.
Hank Pym making Ultron in the MCU would be a great turn of events
Nah
@@mrfox9090 why not? he built ultron in the comics
@@robloxfellow nah
@@mrfox9090 he did my guy, even a simple google search will tell you that, you dont even need to read the comics, just search who built ultron in comics
and would give his character something to actually do in the eyes of movie viewers. i’ve just always hated how they skipped immediately to Scott as Antman and never told the story of Hank and Janet as Antman and the Wasp.
Wow. This is very impressive. I wasn’t sure how this saga could work with Ultron as the big villain instead of Thanos but unsurprisingly, you found a way to make it work. Great job.
Yeah, this is awesome 👍
Please do a part two for a “Cosmic Saga”
What If Marvel and DC all shared the universe.
The mdcu
Thats fuggin' good!
Wait…
Ima let you cook…
Bro that needs to be a video he has to do
Yes please
It's not even been 2 weeks since this came out and I'm already dying for a part 2, I really loved this video!
Have to say, I think I probably would have liked this better for the first official saga of the MCU. It just kind of shows how quickly they chose to escalate things up to a cosmic-level threat like Thanos with their decision to base the first saga around the Infinity Stones over a more grounded villain like Ultron, who I know to be much more closely connected to The Avengers in comics.
And I guess another reason I would have liked this better is because Tony didn't have to die at the end of this saga. Hank does, but at least this version of events would have already had Scott as his established successor for carrying the Ant-Man mantle much like the actual MCU.
See i feel your just being slightly biased. Peter is already set up as iron mans successor, so that point about antman is void. And secondly, you complain that Tony died, but who knows, maybe Hank Pym would have been a better written and more loved character and his death would feel worse.
Next video: "What if Kang was the villIain of a saga revolving around TIME instead of the multiverse?"
(You can do a lot of of creative stuff with this one: you can introduce heroes and teams from the golden age, like the Liberty legion, the All winners squad, the Twelve, etc... or characters from the far west, like Two gun kid, Ringo kid, Kid Colt, Rawhide kid, the Gunhawks, etc... or characters from the future, like Maestro, Cable, Bishop, etc...)
And have him be the big bad TIL THE END, without being upstaged by Doom or some other villain. Give him the MAIN spotlight, because he deserves it.
You do know that Kang was going to be the main villain till the end right? It's his irl actor that got into legal trouble which forced marvel to reroute to Dr Doom, contributing as one of the many many factors that made this era their flop era
@peapod5629 Yes, but in his pitch for the Kang dynasty he had Kang get killed by the Beyonder alongside all his variants, which Is the most disrespectful send off he could've ever given to the character.
Ultron as the main villain in first MCU saga would be interesting.
WandaVision would be about Wanda missing Simon, her lover, and being too emotional with Vision, rushing their romance. She alters reality several times without knowing about her magic since her powers were psychic and probability, even causing them to get married and have children. After the end, she and Vision make up, she accepts Simon's death and everything goes back to normal, but the lack of Billy and Tommy destroys her. In the end, instead of using the Darkhold across the Multiverse, she does something to pair herself with the Reality Stone, making Billy and Tommy real. But the other Infinity Stones feel the reaction and create a chain reaction, so as not to alter time and space again, they use the Soul Stone to make them reincarnate. Thanos, feeling the reaction created by the future Scarlet Witch, finds out about the six stones and in the future we discover that he went after them thanks to Wanda's actions. The new saga is about the Infinity Stones from there on, the Tesseract and Loki's Scepter retcons happen here, and Wanda and Vision learn about love by the end of the saga. The next saga could be about young heroes, like Wanda's children who would probably already be teenagers by the end of the saga, thus beginning the Young Avengers Saga 3.
Just an idea ♥️🤣🤣
Oh I do really hope that a second saga is made. Id definitely love to see this alternate universe delved into more.
Not only is Ultron is treated as the big bad that he should be but Hank and Janet is here too!!! Nice job bro!!! 👍😎
I can't tell you how much I would have loved for Hank and Janet to be part of the MCU from the jump. Maybe it's my love for the Avengers EMH show, but man I would have loved the dynamic they could have brought. And Ultron's relationship to Pym is much more interesting.
I really enjoyed the story you took us on here as well. Very thought out.
Love it! So dark, serious, intense, and a version of animated Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Can't wait to see your version of the Infinity Saga, Black Lion!
Marvel really need to hire this man, this youtuber can become kevin's right hand
For real
EVERYONE with dreams of making a cinematic universe needs to get in touch with him. Marvel, DC, etc.
@@Ultranger@fadelrizalr1030 Amen to this!
Especially he can make the doom saga as this saga can bring together x men, fantastic 4 and Avengers of Marvel's main universe.
Hate to say it, sometimes the fans can come up with better ideas than the studio. This is one of those cases. Imo, this would've been way better.
Thank you for adding Hank and Jan!!!
Now only did you had Ultron be the Big Bad In MCU but you also got Hank Pym as the Main AntMan! Good Job, Bro! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
The Ultron Saga.
The Age of Ultron Saga
First saga: Ultron saga (Ultron)
Second saga: Infinity saga (Thanos)
Third saga: Timeless saga (Kang)
Fourth and final saga: Multiverse saga (Doom)
@@MartinMarsano i would go to five sagas and make Apocalypse the main threat there with obviously the X-Men taking center stage. hell, you can do Mister Sinister or Dark Phoenix instead cause the mutants offer a lot
Saga three should be mutant saga with apocalypse as the villain
The mechanism saga
Dude this is genuinely amazing a part two would be amazing
Crazy how Ultron, archenemy of the Avengers is relegated to one movie
COUGH COUGH Kang COUGH COUGH
@@MartinMarsano he’s not that closely connected to the Avengers though. he’s more so connected to the Fantastic Four than anyone else but with the mcu’s lack of rights to their characters in the first saga, they definitely should’ve made Ultron the main villain of the first saga . he’s their archenemy and closest threat there is tbh. U can have Thanos right after him in the second saga while introducing the FF and Doom in the same saga then making them the focus of the third saga, etc…
Congrats dude. You just found a way to keep these “Universe Restructures” going for awhile. Looking forward to this one.
I'm gonna be honest at first I found this strange but then when I watched I liked how you covered something that other UA-camrs haven't maybe keep up this experimental approach
I think ultron should have been a bigger threat.
The first saga could be: age of ultron saga
The second saga: thanos the mad titan saga
The third saga: kang Dynasty saga
The fourth saga: Doomsday saga
The 5th saga: The Galactics Saga
Having those villains as the main villains of those 5 sagas would be great.
Nice, but the Kang and Doom Saga should be merged into a bigger Multiverse Saga
@@MartinMarsano So Kang's Saga is the Time Saga, and Doom's Saga is the Multiverse Saga.
Saga 1: Ultron Saga (Ultron)
Saga 2: Infinity Saga (Thanos)
Saga 3: Mutant Saga (Apocalypse and Phoenix)
Saga 4: Multiverse Saga: (Kang and Doom)
@lucasroque754 I agree. That's the route I would have gone.
Then after the multiverse saga it's the galactics saga.
@@ChiTownMade Galactics before multiverse, multiverse as the last saga ending the MCU
This is so cool! Can't wait for part 2 and beyond!!!
Ok this is one of the greatest what if kinds of videos in youtube, underrated by default
I LOVE THIS🔥🔥
Can you do a ‘What if Thanos was the villain in the next saga after the Ultrom Saga’
The Defenders could be named Force Works instead. That group was an offshoot of West Coast Avengers after Civil War and were featured in the Iron Man animated series.
I would call them "Revengers" instead. It sounds better than "Force works" and it's a team to which at least one of members is connected to in the comics. Also I would replace Rocket with Captain Ultra, because I don't like the idea of every single talking animal being an experiment of the High Evolutionary.
I think you should do a Part 2 to this video with Phases 4, 5 and 6 being called the Infinity Saga. I want to see cosmic characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy, Nova, Adam Warlock, Thanos, the Kree including Ronan the Accuser and the Black Order.
Bro this video was amazing 10/10 👏
Fascinating. I love Ultron as the big threat, I like the way we more or less get the original Avengers lineup and the focus on Hank.
I wonder... as we understand in one way or the other we can expect that the real world Multiverse Saga will end by in one way or another rebooting the MCU to properly integrate the X-Men and Fantastic Four. If you do make part 2 as the infinity Saga, I wonder if it'll be the infinity gauntlet reshaping reality, resulting in these new characters emerging.
I made up my own MCU a year ago just for fun and thought of making Ultron the main villain of the first saga, too. I'm happy to see someone thought of the same thing. 😄 Like there are some ideas here that coincided with mine like having Baron Zemo and the Masters of Evil be the main adversaries of Phase 2.
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3:17 Thor
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thanks bro
I really want a part 2.
Same, though how would this universe's version of Infinity War look?
@@robloxfellow guess we’ll just have to wait and see if he makes a part 2 to this universe. maybe the events that happened in the actual infinity saga will happen there and some elements of phase 4 and 5 (mostly the cosmic stuff) could also occur like having the Guardians form with Rocket as leader, mutants slowly become more global like Namor and Ms. Marvel, Thunderbolts forming, and Wanda becoming Scarlet Witch all before Thanos comes in and fucks shit up
@@omarslayz Honestly, yeah, though not sure what the other Avengers film other than Infinity War would be (maybe Secret Invasion and Secret Empire)
@@omarslayz They are probably gonna introduce the X-Men and Fantastic Four in this universe.
Dude i fkn love your videos you should do how you would complete the multvierse saga with the confirmed movies and series but also choose which movies the untiteld are
As Deadpool said: Let him cook! Ultron as the first big bad is what they should have done!
My main problems with age of Ultron were
1) tony stark creating ultron (hank creating ultron feels much more personal)
2) It felt too soon for Ultron in the MCU. The second ever threat faced by the Avengers was created by an avenger himself 😐which kinda felt weird imo, Ultron being the villain of the third avengers film would've been better imo
That being said, I still like age of Ultron
Ultron was created by an avenger too in the comics Hank Pym even before he became a founding member
@@mohabalserafe3795 ik that
But Ultron being the second threat faced by avengers doesn't fit so well with me
Request: what if the MCU was based on the pre MCU movies and was in the 2000s
Awesome ideas! Plus somebody remembers the masters of evil
Congratulations! You broke me out of writer's block for my Marvel Universe
Can you do Infinity Saga next
I'd love a sequel, this is a great project. Hank dying in the final fight instead of Tony is a great mirror, however if Tony still has his character arc in similar beats, not sure how good him coming out of retirement would be, it would take away from the space all his successors (War Machine, Spider-Man, Ironheart and Harley specifically, can't think of others) have. Maybe he suffers a debilitating injury while distracting Ultron for Hawkeye?
For the Defenders, you could do what Gaurdians did and called it Defenders of the West Coast
30 MINUTE BANGER INBOUND!!!
What If the Civil War was between Spider Man and Black Panther
Wow this sounds better and more structured than the Infinity Saga. Now I badly want part 2 of this videoo!!
please do a version of yours about how the infinity saga would have been with the first saga being about ultron
If Edgar Wright had been able to make it work, he didn’t want to have to think about a connected universe just wanted a single film.
If he had made a film with Hank and Janet in Phase 1 and then eventually had Tony and Hank work on Ultron together mainly instead of Tony and Banner that could’ve been dope!
Yeah, Edgar Wright deserves better than what Marvel did.
BTW, Mary Elizabeth Winston should have been the Wasp.
0:59 I know that’s Patrick Wilson who played Night-Owl in Watchmen and Orm in Aquaman but who did you fancast as Janet Van Dyne?
Mary Elizabeth.
Some ideas I would like to see:
X-Men Cinematic Universe (like an earlier video but with only mutants this time)
MCU but only characters they didn’t have from the beginning
DCEU but they sold the rights to their most popular characters (remake)
Spider-Man Cinematic Universe
Batman Cinematic Universe Part 2
MCU with Thanos as main villain of second saga (part 2 of this vid lol)
The Arrowverse but they have rights to all the characters (The Batverse?)
Edit: Ooh! Another one I keep forgetting is: A DC cinematic universe that isn’t restricted to DCEU franchises
So you’d include more characters that are relevant to the overarching saga
Edit 2: Yo he actually did that last one
I wonder if there will be a follow up to this video it’s one of my favorites
I (we) LOVEEEEE this, I think this is great. I hope you continue this!!!
I hope this gets a continuation where we have the next saga being the infinity saga where we can introduce the FF and C-Men with the multiverse.
Really good need part 2
now I want the sequel to this video
I like this more than the infinity saga we got, but now with you using plot beats like time travel in end game, I would be very curious to see what your plan for more phases after this would be?
To be fair, even though they were building towards Thanos, I don’t think they had the whole saga surrounding a big bad figured out yet. Civil War is a good example of this. Pretty sure that’d be an Avengers movie today.
We don’t talk enough about your fancastings because Patrick Wilson and Mary Elizabeth Winstead are great for Hank and Jan.
I intially thought Ewan McGregor, but Patrick Wilson (who was going to be in the 2015 Ant-Man film before dropping out) is perfect for Hank
This is great because unlike Infinity War, in the comics age of ultron actually has time travel in it.
Despite the first MCU saga being called… the Infinity Saga, I sincerely think that Phases 1-3 had a recurring villain.
Phase 1 had Loki, Phase 2 could arguably be Hydra, and Phase 3 had Thanos. Personally Phase 2 didn’t really have a recurring villain, but if we had the Nando order then Iron Man would’ve been the main villain of Phase 2.
Also, I appreciate the name tags you used for the Masters of Evil
You should make a complete DC Cinematic Universe using ALL Marvel films, television and one-shots starting in 2008. You'd have so much to build with.
I actually really like this idea, especially the Master of Evil movie. That’s a movie we need. I do like Tony Stark’s sacrifice in endgame tho, but we can have that in the Infinity Saga
Honestly pretty cool, but let’s be real; after “the slap” Marvel were never going to make Hank the main Ant-Man in the MCU.
Alternative title: What if the MCU was 80% comic accurate?
Hopefully we get this story line after the avengers are rebooted after secret wars
Would love to see a second part showing this universe's Infinity Saga (which would be more equivalent to our Multiverse Saga)
this would be a cool part 2
WE NEED PART 2 NOW!!!!!
Please I need a part 2
I miss Age of Ultron so much mainly coz that was the peak of the Avengers team, there should have one more Avengers movie before Civil War.
Make the part two of this series please🙏🙏🙏🙏
Oh yeah, this was DOPE
Please do phase 4,5,&6 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🥺
Road to 100k! Please remake what if dc sold their rights to their biggest characters
Awesome video
Well this was a nice surprise
Here’s an idea similar to this: What if instead of the first saga being about thanos and the infinity saga, what if we started right away with the multiverse in the MCU
please do a part 2 of this!
What if DC sold the rights to their biggest characters like Marvel did and the DCEU was built off smaller characters like Blue Beetle and Green Arrow, kinda like the arrowverse (edit) Also please sequel infinity saga video I need it
I think he already did a video on this!
He did it, he just needs to do a part 2
@@robloxfellow OH, YEAH. Got it!
@@novelwriter3503 he should remake it
what if the DCEU started in 2005 with Batman Begins
While its genius to have a version of the Defenders take the place of the Guardians of the Galaxy, the line should be a bit different.
Vol. 1: Wonder Man, Hellcat, Machine Man, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, & Howard the Duck (whose origin would be explored in the Infinity Saga). The villains would be AIM.
Vol 2: Wonder Man, Hellcat, Machine Man, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Howard the Duck, Hawkeye, Mockingbird, Tigra, & Valkyrie (this version of Valkyrie would take more inspiration from her Ultimate Universe self, where she was a normal person before receiving powers from Loki). The main villain would be the Grim Reaper.
Vol. 3: Vision, Hellcat, Machine Man, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Howard the Duck (He would take Rocket’s origin and connection to the High Evolutionary), Hawkeye, Mockingbird, Tigra, Valkyrie, & Darkhawk (who would take the place of Adam Warlock). The main villain would be the High Evolutionary, and this movie would have the Defenders going to space to rescue Howard after he was injured.
The post credit scene of Vol. 3 would be a set-up for the West Coast Avengers.
Pretty neat Idea. Could you perhaps do a video on a proper multiverse saga? Ive daydreamed about how a properly done multiverse saga would have looked like, with inclusions like Ghost Rider, Nova, and even Squirrel Girl in the MCU.
It's great. Would be better if you make AIM the main villain of Ironman 3 instead of fake Mandarin, with Blizzard, Melter, and Living Laser being their experiments created from Extremis. Also Thor Ragnarok should be more like the original Ragnarok storyline. And maybe give Hulk another solo movie in the form of Planet Hulk. Lastly the Kree shouldnt be all bad, and Skrulls shouldnt be shown solely as victims, instead the both of them should be shown as morally grey. And the original Mar-Vell should be Carol's mentor. Who does inspiring Carol.
Great,This is way Better.
17:18 killing the dog of all characters is crazy
Okay this alternate version is really cool, but I still feel thanks was the best choice as the big bad, maybe we could’ve ultron hint at still being around at the end of “ age of ultron” .
Please do what the Infinity Saga would look like in this universe!
One thing about the time travel doesn't make sense to me (and it's why I think it really worked for Endgame). If the heroes split into groups, wouldn't the actions of the heroes that changed events from furthest back affect the timeline for those who went closer to the present? Like, if three groups went to 2012, 2013, and 2014, and the heroes from 2012 changed something, wouldn't it affect the 2013 and 2014 groups? And therefore, they couldn't really predict in which ways events would unfold?
Apparently, each point in time was an alternate timeline instead of the exact same one. Especially because we saw 2012 Loki escape with the Space Stone, but 2013 Loki was shown in Asgardian prison.
@SecretMagician Yes. For Endgame, that's how time travel worked. That's why I'm saying that what The Black Lion is suggesting for time travel rules wouldn't work, whilst Endgame's rules did because of the alternate timelines
Love it!
Yo this was so cool! Can you do a part two with the multiverse saga?
He literally said that he barely tapped the cosmic side of the MCU so he is probably gonna do the Infinity Saga.
@@Deadpool-mcu2024 he also mentioned that Spider-Man 3 in this version of the MCU won't be No Way Home, but a Sinister Six movie, as it took till Captain Marvel to reach the cosmic side of the MCU
@@robloxfellow So yeah the next saga will probably be The Infinity Saga or the Cosmic Saga.
@@Deadpool-mcu2024 cosmic saga seems like something for galactus
Weeks ago, I rewrote the MCU without Spider-Man, Hulk, Wolverine, the X-Men, and Fantastic Four, all while using the Defenders, Inhumans, Midnight Sons, giving Black Widow and Hawkeye movies, and using Ultron as the Saga’s big bad
Can you do a part 2 with this universe's infinity Saga? Pleaseeeeeee
You're missing one assistant for Ant-Man the guy that becomes giant man but I love it so far
PLEASE DO A PART 2 !!!!!!!!
This is an amazing idea, the only issue is that I think you’d have to split endgame into two parts as this would be too long
Honestly i feel like an version of this one but with Loki could be just as interesting
How do we know this guy isn’t a universe hopper that’s just telling us about different universe
if he is then i need him to go back to 2008 and tell Marvel to do the Ultron Saga instead of the Infinity Saga cause i’d definitely would have wanted this instead of what we actually got sometimes
@omarslayz I agree, and while he's at it, on his back to 2024, do something with the Arrowverse too, especially in post-Crisis saga of the universe!