How fitting that, during the Inferno video, Wendigoon scoffed at Dante's writing; Now in the Purgatorio he apologizes for being too harsh and 'repents' of his former criticisms.
@@Rapas69 Dante's inferno is more like Dante's send-you-to-hell-note. Homie writes down that you're in hell and with 0 trial, you just drop down to a random level 😂
I honestly love the fact that Inferno was all Dante gloating about how the people he didn't like were suffering in Hell because they took life for granted, and the ending of Purgatorio is Beatrice going "Dude, you're doing the exact same thing they were." As much as people rag on Inferno for being "Biblical fanfiction," the fact Dante wasn't afraid to cast himself off as a coward and a hypocrite says a lot about his integrity as an artist.
Comedy was written over the course of several years. So it's possible Dante either mellowed out some while writing this, or always intended to be shown to be more of a jerk while in Inferno.
@@arciks11 I really think it's the former. It would fit very nicely with the story he created as well, and better explains the lack of self-aggrandizing in Purgatorio. He relieved himself of his sins while making his way through purgatory.
Dante writes Inferno: "Bro, I'm such a good writer, just wait and I'll prove it." *Everyone reads it* Dante writes Purgatorio: "See, what did I tell ya?" *No one reads it*
I've read that one translation of inferno that has the original Italian, the translation written in poetry in English, then an explanation of the symbolism (the one by John something i think) which I really liked and I've never gotten around to reading purgatorio and paradiso, so I'm really looking forward to this one. Been watching wendi for years and i love his stuff, I'm excited to have his be the version I'm getting it introduced in.
"So uh, weather, right? Surprisingly warm here." "I've been in hell for centuries, it's quite nice here actually." "Oh, yeah, right. Heh, forgot about that." "I didn't." "Heh, I bet.. so.. what's it like?" "Hell?" "Yeah, what's hell like." "It's hell." "Oh, heh, yeah, s- stupid question... *Whispers to himself* "Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Come on, Statius, you can do this!" "What was that?" "Oh, uh nothing." "Ah, very well." Basically that for at least six hours is how I imagined that.
As someone who isn't really religious, I did almost get emotional at the notion of God maintaining the Garden of Eden, our original perfect home, in case we ever wanted to return. There is something very touching about that, like a father keeping his child's room ready in case they ever came to visit.
I never even thought about the fact that Virgil not only has to walk all the way back alone, but has to spend the rest of eternity just chilling in Limbo. At least there are people to talk to I guess so he's not entirely alone but it's still depressing
Oh dear. My mind instantly went to "will he even get back?" Beatrice didn't ask for him to be saved, only to walk with Dante and, now that his job is done, Virgil doesn't have the "I'm on a journey from god" line to hold any power over the demons who would get in his way.
@@spindlespress Hopefully the deal implies that Virg doesn't get ripped apart by the Cerberus or stuck in a river of boiling blood on his journey back. Hopefully..
Same. I'm an atheist but that's such a beautiful idea. Also Virgil going through the flames so Dante didn't have to go alone. Not Wendigoon out here hitting me right in the feels.
A couple of cool facts about the Divine Comedy: - Dante wrote it in 15 years, that is why you see a style change - The comedy is written so it rhymes in a way to recall sacred numbers multiple times, for example you have 3 sections (inferno, purgatorio and paradiso) and each of this section is described in 33 canti. - The idea behind the shape of Hell, Purgatory and Heaven is that when Satan fell he created a "Heaven" in his image, doing that all the dirt he moved went to form the Mountain of Purgatory at the other side of the world. - When Dante and Virgilio get from Hell to Purgatory they use a narrow passage (which is where all the dirt from Hell came to form Purgatory) and all that is meant to resemble the act of birth from the fetus perspective.
Second point is wrong, satan didn't create anything and hell was just the hole that opened in the ground (that was repulsed by satan) when he fell on earth
@@bruhjonson1131 Yeah, I can see I could have explained that better. I didn't mean he worked in some way to shape Hell, he just fell and that was it. Still, Hell is mirroring Heaven, and the same is for Purgatory.
This one hurts so many feels. Vergil's solemn departure hurts deep, but the line "God tends the garden of Eden to be just as it was before the fall just in case humanity abandons their sins and want to come home" made me misty eyed at work.
@@CWHolleman you tend a garden for a future benefit - the harvest. God tending 'The Garden' for our future return to glory as his harvest is incredibly powerful. As for forgiveness, that is a gift anyone can receive by simply asking. It's a standing offer.
Yes, Dante's writing does "improve" as he ascends to heaven. It is on purpose. Hell is characterized by unelegant, simple, unrefined expressions. Purgatory's language is more curated, more elaborated. Heaven's language is the closest it gets to pure poetry. It is more elevated and beautiful. When studying this is high school, hell was reserved for 1st year, purgatory for 2nd year, heaven for 3rd year students. That's because it gets harder and harder to analyze and understand. Specially heaven, you really need to have some sort of translation next to it. We have multiple versions of the comedy, from less "adulterated" to almost completely translated. I remember our version had the original script on the left and a modern italian translation on the right. So you're not imagining that Dante's writing gets better:D Actually glad you noticed. Hopefully the english translation was accurate enough~
@@paulrosa6173 Personally, i'm italiagnostic; i'm open to the concept of an omnipeninsular entity, and I do believe that city-states have existed in a boot-shaped region of the world at one point, but having looked into the matter there's just not enough evidence of a government, or at least one that's currently functioning.
great vid, as always. As an italian in his 20s i will give you a bit of context about the relevance of the divine comedy in modern day italy. in every school in italy, in middle school you are introduced to Dante, then in every high school (no matter if scientific, classical, techincal, ecc) you will study every canto of the Inferno, and it takes years, and in some schools you even study the Purgatorio and the Paradiso. Also, Dante published the divine comedy in Florence in episodes, every canto was a different episode, and it got people in florence hooked, he was the original netflix! also think of it not in a litteral way, the Inferno was basically a diss track against his political enemies. Also, his version of italian (because at the time italian was not a universal language for the italian peninsula) became the foundation of modern standard italian. This stuff is the litteral backbone of italian litterature to this day. ah, also, my elementary school was called Dante Aligheri, i just remembered now while writing this, lol.
@@Ebola-Kun idk, I was made to do a report on inferno in middle school. Though I was in those gifted classes, so that might play a part with a looser curriculum
I was raised catholic, I am not super religious now but something about god maintaining the garden every day in case humanity decides to come back home really gets to me.
I’m a pagan and that tears me up too. I grew up in the church and I wish that I grew up being told about a loving, forgiving god. Sorry about getting sad about religion lol
Dude you’re the farthest thing from “a little wimp” for showing emotion. The fact you knew some of the ideas and things mentioned are extremely personal for you, yet still shared it with thousands of strangers is the least wimpy thing someone could do. And that’s why you’re my favorite UA-camr.
My man Vergil walked all the way through hell guiding Dante, pulling him away from the dangers, then went all the way up through the purgatory, even going full demon hunter as his bro was being tempted, and in the very end walked through cleansing flames just so Dante wouldn't be alone, letting him know that he was now a better man than Vergil himself was. This, ladies and gentlemen, is a true display of sheer *Motivation*
“Virgil walked through the fire just so Dante wouldn’t have to do it alone.” “And even though humanity left God still takes care of Eden in case we ever decide to come back home” “Standing before the garden of Eden, and in front of an infinite Love that dragged him back there, none of his desires seemed that important anymore” that’s it we don’t need any books or any other analysis videos by anyone else, nobody could explain these ideas as perfectly and powerfully as this guy. His reaction to Dante’s take on God’s Love perfectly shows what these concepts do to the human heart, I have so much respect for this guy for keeping that in the cut. As a jaded Christian, this was so important to me. Thank you.
Other than maybe the conspiracy theory iceberg, this Divine Comedy series is probably my favorite series of yours, and I can’t wait to see Paradiso. Keep up the good work.
The friendship between Virgil and Dante is heartwarming. The line about how God tends to the garden every day Incase humanity ever decides to come back got me. Ik it's not completely biblically accurate but still got me.
God friggin banished humanity then is all like, "look how pretty the flowers are! You are _very_ welcome to come back." *Glances at angel holding a flaming sword guarding the gate* "Oh he's just for show." God is a piece of work, that's for sure.
I think the saddest part is that Vergil was talking about how he remembered Beatrice’s eyes and how beautiful they are, and even after his whole journey alongside Dante, he never got to see them with Dante. That really hit me
@@DEVeloper_ACE no offense but I don't think that really matters lol, they're 2 vowels that sound the same in that name, all language and writing is just squiggly lines that our brains think mean something because of being told it does our entire lives
Hey Wendi - Just wanted to throw it out there that you shouldn't feel any pressure to make fun of something you're genuinely passionate about. Your enthusiasm is contagious, and a nice change of pace from the countless snide media reviews on UA-cam. Also as someone who loves classic literature but struggles to read it, thank you for this series. Eagerly awaiting Paradiso.
I couldn't agree more. I know his other content is fun and often for silly editorializing but this is, far and away, one of the most emotionally evocative things I've watched in years on the platform and it's purely because Wendi hits this perfect line of both casual and earnest.
I think that Dante's initial immaturity is thematically reflective of his journey through Hell, then realizing his sins and becoming modest and introspective in Purgatory, finally to the Purity and Selflessness of Soul in Heaven.
It's interesting how Virgil/Vergil is famous in modern times mostly because of Dantes work. It's like the ultimate shout out to your muse. So that they are remembered forever. Being remembered forever is truly the ultimate gift.
I never heard of Virgil until this series. In a funny way, makes me think that Dante writing these names so people will remember them. Such as the dead and such, actually did work. I don’t know why. But something about that is kind of amazing. Sure he had some pride for sure. But in a way it was kind of true. And I think that’s kind of cool
@@basedkaiser5352 pretty sure Virgil wasn't gifted with life at the side of God 🤣 therefore the ultimate gift given to HIM was to be remembered forever because of dante.
Huh, I think this is the first time I've ever truly understood the appeal of faith and religion. Like, obviously I've always understood, on a more abstract level, that it brings comfort and direction and a sense of purpose to many people, but seeing this guy getting emotional about the end of Purgatory finally made it really "click" for me. This was an incredibly moving and enlightening video even for somebody who's never been religious at all.
It really does give some sort of solace. It's nice to believe that maybe, just maybe, there is a force of unending mercy and love. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but with all the bad in the world, it's nice to think that there is a love greater than what I can humanly conceive when I die. I hope that everyone can find that solace.
Man, I can't imagine a life like that and I mean that with no offense or underlying malice. I genuinely just can't imagine living without my faith or God😓
Jesus Christ is God incarnate who came to earth to be born and live a perfect life, a sinless life. (He is one person of the Trinity, consisting of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; one God in three persons not three Gods.) Jesus then gave Himself up to be crucified and died to pay for the sins of the whole world. My sin, your sin, the sins of everybody. 3 days later He was resurrected. He now offers salvation to all who will turn from their sin and trust Him to save them from eternity in hell. He paid our debts because we couldn't, but we have to trust Him to do it. I cannot add anything to what He has done (not even baptism). I cannot do enough good to take even a year off of my death sentence in hell. The sentence is a never ending one, because I have sinned against an eternal God. But Jesus took my punishment, He saved me, and offers that same salvation to you. I am praying for you.
Agreed, it really sank in when seeing Wendi cry about humanity coming back home Religion is a beautiful beautiful thing and I feel kind of disappointed that I can’t make myself believe in it
Wendigoon, never apologize for showing emotion! It doesn’t make you silly, I promise. Novels and entertainment are created to allow us to feel and be human.
"...When Dante sees this he panics and turns to speak to Virgil who isn't there anymore." i can't believe im about to cry over a 300+ year old poet fanfiction are yOU KIDDING ME
Ngl, That part where Vergil reveals that he cannot go with dante anymore kinda broke me also. Knowing Vergil just prepared Dante to be better than him Just adds salt to the wounds
It's about as bittersweet as it gets. It's such an honour, but it's tragic that it has to come to an end. It's like birds and people, they've got to leave their flock someday. It's sad, but that's what the whole journey's been about up to that point. Never thought I'd feel so emotional watching a dude who talks about conspiracies and analogue horror go through a Biblical fanfic.
As a Christian myself, ngl, hearing this summary and seeing your reaction to reading it really got to me. While like you I don’t believe in a lot of the things that Dante presents in this story, the beauty of which he tells this story and your genuine reaction I think convicted me. If I can be candid, I haven’t been living the life I should be, to put it lightly. But honestly this has been wanting me to be more intentional in my own relationship with God. Thank you so much man. You’re one of my favorite UA-camrs and I’m happy and thankful to be subscribed to you.
Another important aspect of the Divina Commedia: Dante's use of words varies between Inferno, Purgatorio and Paradiso, going from more "vulgar" choosing of words in Inferno to an "elevated" use of the language in Paradiso.
Christianity is what ultimately up holds anyoens morals and virtues. Believe that when you read and pray you will encounter God not only what the 5 pound human brain thinks as fantasy. Truth is hidden it cant be that easy to find a good life.
@@Sarah-qo9bu You don't get to speak for anyone else's religious beliefs other than your own. You believe in God? Cool. The other person said they do not. Respect their beliefs and keep it moving.
It is so refreshing to see a UA-camr of such high level be able to profess his faith and be able to be open about his emotions and not just be a tough guy. Wendigoon you are awesome my dude!
I had this on in the background, and let me just say that it's an absolute experience to zone back in just to hear "an angel wipes the pee off of Dante's forehead..."
I actually love that u got so emotional abt this and I literally cried while u were describing it lol. So many people intellectually distance themselves from old old literature like this & seem to forget that it was written by actual human people & ive never understood that. To see you actually acknowledging the beauty and humanity of such a mythic story is so refreshing
I don’t like that people (especially Christians) don’t be an eye to this incredible epic of a story. Even if you don’t believe that Hell is like what he describes, or purgatory doesn’t exist. Just the story of Dante travelling through hell, and now seeing him mimic his way up the mountain is incredible
I mean, a piece of literature that has survived the coming and going of not only millions of books, but dozens of empires had BETTER be as impactful as that! No judgement from me getting choked up over the legacy of one of the longest lived artworks that we have. Also, as a sister in Christ, like...YEAH. God has been tending to the garden of Eden ever since we left because He misses us and wants it to be perfect when we come home??? That's an intense illustration of the origin point of Love, cared for out of Mercy. That's like the foundation of the entire thing of Christianity, so if you're a person of faith and that doesn't SLAY YOUR HEART, I just don't know man.
As someone who’s taking a university classics course, I deeply enjoy this series. I shared this video with my professor (a classicist from Italy) and she loved it and recommended it to the rest of our class. We all hope you continue and finish The Devine Comedy!
@@motosich9572 Not that it’s any of your business, but I’m actually a senior chemical engineer. Being a well rounded student includes learning various types of curriculum- something which you might benefit from. It’s ignorant to call a field of study useless simply because you deem it to be. Clearly since you’re here you should have at least some respect for the classics, otherwise you’re wasting your own time.
@@mafuyusato5549 Exactly, dude! If not for English lit, Classics, psychology, gender studies and a ton of other humanitarian sciences, there would be like 85% to 90% less baristas, fast food workers and only fans models in the world. All sciences are good for something.
I wonder if Tolkien was inspired by this story at all. The journey of Dante and Virgil reminds me of Sam and Frodo's relationship a lot. Sam risked everything to help Frodo carry a burden he himself couldn't carry. Really great stuff, and awesome video. Keep it up
Probably, ther is even frodo gtting worse as they go through the journey. Becaue trauma and th ring, but still. Gollum is the last step an in a way help, but gandalf in the angel, gandalf literally in story is a messengr of the creator god. So th the scene with him coming, he is the angel or beatrice make more sene as bilbo. Frodo even enters the pure etherial faraway lands, tht hae to be heaven, wit bilbo.
58:11 You are not lame for sharing your emotions with us! You’re passionate about the story and want to share that with us! If emotions are apart of that then its okay!
30:30 you are in fact correct to say that his writing "improved": as a matter of fact, he planned to "upgrade" his writing style throughout the whole book, as he "traveled" up to heaven. you see, in medieval times, there used to be two versions of "italian" as we know it now, caused by the fact that not everyone was able to study-and Italy wasn't unified yet, so the languange would divide itself: they used to speak either "volgare" and latin, the first one being the "language of the poors" (for example, what a poor medieval farmer would know, so kind of the basic and more simple speech) and the second well..it's latin (if you were a priest or high up in the social ranking-or just rich enough to be able to study, you would know latin). Dante obliviously knew latin as well and so he planned to have a writing style/write the dialogues in three different ways: inferno would have the most basic speech (with lots of swears and cursing too), meanwhile purgatorio would have had a more high up level of speech, not latin yet but sort of a midway, something that a well taught person would know but still be able to be understood even by some of the "lower socially ranked" people. then up to paradise, it gets to straight up latin and just has reeeally complicated words/expressions. ideally, the closer you get to God, the harder it gets to comprehend. hope this was useful :)
Me: "Man, wendigoon's summary of Dante's Inferno was amazing. I wonder if he has done Purgatorio?" *video uploaded 45 minutes ago, literally as I was watching the Inferno summary.* That was definitely a sign, and I subscribed because of it
No worries about being sappy. Feeling emotions over fictional characters is not a sin, I think. Virgil really is one of those ultimate bros. Looking forward to the third and final segment.
I genuinely teared up while you were describing Virgil's sacrifice/departure and God taking care of the garden of Eden, the fact that the stories you cover can both creep me out and make me cry is why you'll forever be the my favorite youtuber
This is my favorite because I feel like it gives people hope. Especially with the idea that we have the power to turn away from things such as addiction or crime, and get back on the right path. That means that no one is ever truly doomed to be punished forever. Love it 💙
I first read Inferno in college nearly 20 years ago and I’ve been obsessed with it ever since. Not long after reading it I was lucky enough to take a 2 week trip to Italy and was actually able to see Dante’s tomb. It was really sad to see, knowing of his exile and how he couldn’t even be interred in the place he loved most. I’ve actually never read the entire Divine Comedy despite wanting to and owning a copy (that was written in Italian with the English translations on the opposite pages; I was seriously obsessed with Italy back then and hope to return someday), so I really enjoyed listening to you summarize it. I actually started crying with you! I’m not religious, if anything I’m a pantheist, but even that little bit of faith has been tested lately. Last summer I was hospitalized with sepsis and put on a ventilator. I was close to death for a couple of days, both my lungs so full of fluid they were completely white on x-rays. There were a few times I was semi-conscious, and my clearest memory is feeling *intensely* alone. I didn’t know where my parents were, I actually thought I had been moved from ICU to a private room far away from everyone else, left alone with no loved ones to support me. I found out later that I hadn’t been moved, of course, and my mother had spent every single day in my room, and I’d been visited by aunts, cousins, friends. My older cousin who I haven’t seen in years, he’s a preacher, and he saw me on two separate occasions to pray over me. I was so moved. My psychiatrist has since told me I have PTSD from this incident and I definitely agree with the assessment. It’s been over 6 months and I relive that loneliness everyday. I used to hope that when you die you would at least know, feel it somehow, or be reassured by loved ones at your side. But now I think it’s lonely and no matter who’s there nothing will comfort you. It’s terrifying. But listening to you get emotional over faith and the idea of a guide walking with you so you don’t have to be alone… it’s really beautiful and hopeful and actually the one thing that got me through my experience. I’m not religious, but I believe in those who’ve gone before me, they’re the ones I call angels. I just turned 40, my life is far from done, and the love of the people who have already passed will protect me. That’s what I thought when I would get scared. And it comforted me, every time. I have faith in the bonds we make in life. Sorry for the huge emotion vomit but this video seriously hit me in the feels, too. Thanks, Wendi. - a fellow Appalachian
Oh! And just a suggestion (that I’m sure others have probably told you before) but if you haven’t already you should DEFINITELY check out Raised By Wolves on HBO Max. I think it would be right up your alley! I’d love to hear your take on it! It’s absolutely wild and rich with religious symbolism, mythological references, and crazy sci-fi nonsense.
if it's any small comfort, 99% of every single story from someone who has been dead and resuscitated stated that they felt warm, at comfort, and completely protected, like a giant hug. Even cases where people killed themselves after being brought back because of how good and comforting death felt. So in reality, it's very likely that ACTUALLY being dead is just a very pleasant and comfortable state of sleep, just floating contently.
If it’s any comfort, the Italian federal court recently repealed Dante’s exile from his home town. Dante literally got acquitted in court. He is no longer exiled from his home.
I can relate! I can’t get over this story. I cried like a baby, and still do when I think about certain aspects of it. Wish I would have known about it sooner, but I guess it came to me at the right time. It’s funny though because I was talking to a friend, and he told me to read Paradise Lost. And I said okay but I’m going to need time to digest this one first lol Next thing you know I’m listening to Mumford and Sons album delta. The song “Picture you” and there’s a part in the song where it has an excerpt from John Milton’s Pardise Lost. 🤯
As a fellow Christian I get the intense affects of seeing/hearing acts of forgiveness and mercy. Dante paints a beautiful picture of both Beatrice and Virgil as Christlike figures, giving their all for someone they have no reason to. Got me a bit emotional too. Much love Wendi.
Matthew 6:19-20 19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
The thought of God just waiting, tending the garden for us if we ever want to be by his side again…😢 totally made me cry with pure emotions. I haven’t felt this warm feeling in my chest for a long time, I was starting to give up and think I’ve just gone cold. You’ve done a great thing here, and for many more than just me I’m sure ❤
It feels as if, and this is my interpretation, Dante wrote the trilogy in memory of Beatrice. He loved her so much it was a way to relieve his grief and to overcome it. To write the stages of his loss and acceptance. He represents her as Jesus because in life she was his saviour and he felt like she saved him from a life of sin, and that he cannot live without her, at least not a good life. Without her he faltered, and is ashamed of himself for falling from grace so easily. He comes to learn in a reflection tthrough religious beliefs, she doesn't need to be there for him to love her and to do good with her. That he can do good and live right in respect of her, just as he was doing while she was alive. This is a love story, a story of a man who would walk through hell for the woman he loved. But instead of coming home with her, he learned to overcome his grief and that one day they may be together again.
My partner might die in surgery in nine days and I fear I will become Dante in my way. I already told them I would cleave them world in two for them, in their memory and in their continued existence. They were the only real light in my life and they may fade soon. I don’t know what hell I’m going to thrust myself into yet.
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 I'm really sorry that you're so afraid and that there's a possibility you may lose the love of your life. There's nothing that can be done, other than telling her you love her every single day, look after her, make sure she's as safe as you can make possible. She's lucky to have you in her life, and I hope all goes well, and if it has passed that she is okay and that you have plenty of time together.
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 I understand. My significant other just yesterday went through a surgery that easily could have killed her. Thankfully, she's okay. I hope your SO is okay, too
I just thought one cool thing: Paarthurnax a dragon from Skyrim that says "What is better? To be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" is actually living through purgatory. Cool bonus point is that he resides at the top of the mountain.
You could take that a step further and say Alduin is the serpent returning to drag him down, and the Dovahkiin is the angel sent down (By Akatosh in this case) to fight him off. The relationship between them even has the same consequences. Just as in Purgatorio, the day the "angel" can't fight anymore and the "serpent" wins, that marks the beginning of "Judgment day", or the end of the Kalpa cycle in the context of Skyrim. I don't know if the writers intended all of that necessarily, but it's fun to think about all the parallels you can draw.
y'know, as an italian, i never realized just how much of a "masterpiece" this whole thing was up until some random guy on youtube started explaining everything i half-remembered about the story and i had to study that damn thing
i never thought i would get so emotionally invested by this but the part where he says that Virgil went through the burning hot flames just so Dante wouldn't go alone almost made me cry
Virgil suffering alongside Dante so that Dante can advance further is analogous to our ancestors living so that we can move forward. I appreciate your humility and courage in sharing your response to that image. It's so refreshing.
This video tripped me out. Towards the end where you mention Beatrice stating in the future someone known as "515" would come to defeat the vixen and the giant. I had no knowledge whatsoever regarding this before watching this series on the divine comedy. But I had a vision in a dream involving the number 515 that sent chills down my spine back when it happened, and was instantly reminded of it as soon as you mentioned it. In the dream I was inside the foyer of a church I went to as a child. I hadn't been inside the church for at least a decade at this point. It seemed to take place in the future as this church was somewhat outdated in terms of decor, but it was all updated and renovated. I was speaking to who I presume was the pastor in this foyer (was dressed like a pastor for sure) he wasn't someone I know or recognized. I don't recall the conversation at all but what I do remember is noticing a fancy wooden plaque over the doors that lead into the sanctuary that just had the number "515" written on it. I asked the pastor dude about it and he simply replied with "WE ARE THE 515" and I awoke immediately knowing I just experienced something important but not knowing what it meant at all. The best thing I could come up with was that he was referencing psalm 51:5. That seemed relevant at the time as I was deeply in sin at that point in my life. Hearing this symbolism from Dante just added a whole new layer of confusion to it Anyone with ears to hear have any ideas?
Could either mean that the "priest" was the dream embodiment of 515 or that 515 refers to the church itself, it being what's supposed to slay the giant and the vixen in your life
It was good to see you get emotional, dude; not because I like to watch people cry, but because it was impressive to see that a 700-year-old book was still capable of drawing that kind of response from a reader. So, thanks for sharing that experience, even if it felt awkward for you. 1:18:31 Wow. Never seen someone do that when they made it big before, genuinely the most honorable guy in this godless wasteland called UA-cam. Massive props.
That’s mad respect from him. I still can’t believe he made it to a million subs. I started when he was at about 875k It’s crazy how fast he’s growing and I love him
Even as an atheist, I do find myself incredibly moved by the same moments that you did. It really was beautiful. I would absolutely love for you to cover Paradiso, your interpretations and commentary are wonderful and entertaining!!
Please don't let such beautiful moments of emotion simply wash over you. This is emotion and mercy on a level that we simply don't get to see without God playing a role in it. You recognize the power and beauty in them, so don't let that go to waste. God is reaching out to you through the literature.
@@NovusIgnis dont push your ideals on people, they said they're an atheist, respect it. You can see beauty and understanding in something without devouting your life and meaning to something.
@@NovusIgnis pushing religion onto others is the exact reason so many people are becoming atheist. If God was real, he'd welcome atheist over hateful and pushy christians
@@NovusIgnis I was also moved by this part of the story. However, I was born and raised Christian. My opinions on it now have changed, but I find myself wishing that I believed in a home in the afterlife. However, now with more research and knowledge, I don’t believe. I can’t believe. But I wish I could.
I hate how the term “greatest of all time” has been ran through the mud so much that it’s losing its weight, but for me this episode is goated. Everything from the way he presented the story to the deeper meaning he found in Dante’s writing is phenomenal. Thank you Wendigoon, see you at Dante’s Paradiso. 💖
My boyfriend's best friend was in a terrible car accident yesterday and it's seriously so freaking hard to think about this world without him I know my boyfriend won't be the same and I keep thinking about death and mortality a lot...I hate that death exists...it's such a hard traumatizing thing to deal with a pain we all experience in some way...I'm just hoping for the best and I was brought to tears hearing about Eden...how we can come home when we are ready...I just hope everything will be okay and this isn't the end for this man who has helped my boyfriend more than anyone in the world...these videos are helping me during this time when I don't know what to do with myself thank you for everything you do. ❤
As someone who isn't superstitious, I always found death to be quite alright, having been around it a fair bit. What seems to be problematic as I've seen it is that people left behind tend to focus on nostalgia and the potential time lost as opposed to focusing on the time that was had with whoever died. It's like being given an ice-cream, then half way through it, an earthquake makes you drop it in mud. Instead of being sad about the half you didn't get to eat, consider how cool it was that you got to eat any ice-cream at all.
I consider myself an atheist, yet I couldn't stop crying either when Virgil left Dante. I think what got to me is that I've rarely seen religion depicted in such a deeply human way. Did not expect this video to get to me so much, and maybe I appreciate it even more because of it. Thank you so much, I really can't wait for the next video
I’m seeing a lot of comments like this. It’s really cool you’re tolerant and even sympathetic towards the religious. We need more of that if ether side wants to try change the others minds. However, The divine comedy is fiction. There’s not much that’s biblically accurate in what Dante wrote. Honestly, Dante made it sound way more fantastical then it actually is.
@@Steph-sk3xb I think the fact that it IS fiction is what gives it so much more power to atheists. As one myself, the fantastical nature of the Bible and other canon stories just seem too outlandish. But knowing it was written as fiction gives the values portrayed and the lessons it teaches that much more meaningful, because we aren't forced to believe all of these things actually happened, we're just expected to learn and grow from the lessons and values!
If you read and study many stories of the Bible, you’ll be shocked to find that many of its lessons are deeply rooted in human nature. When I was becoming a believer, the thing that really shifted me was when I first gave the Bible a try, I was shocked by how human it was and how much I could relate. Almost like the stories of the Bible and their lessons were able to make me feel and teach me something despite their age. Truly timeless
I love how dante sees beatrice, freaks out, look for virgil and freaks out even more when he's not there. It's like a scene from a movie. Nvm someone should make a movie based on this
42:01 I love this little moment so much, because it's so familiar. No matter where you are, spiritual journeys or just normal humans, I can just see this happening among a group of friends. It's so lovely. Thanks, dad
*Dante in **_Inferno:_* corruption arc *Dante in **_Purgatorio:_* redemption arc Also I can’t help but imagine that your sentence in Greed has got to be a huge relief to anyone who had previously done time in Sloth. But I kinda get what you mean with all this love and forgiveness stuff making you feel things. Back in high school, nothing made me more sure in my faith than talking about it with my atheist friend. She never expressed any interest in converting (and I wasn’t about to try to force her to), but she always seemed so fascinated with what I had to say about my practices and some of the stories from our tradition, and…I don’t even know how to describe how it made me feel. Lighter I guess? But we both got so much out of just talking about what I’ve been taught and what I believed in that, when I got Confirmed, she was the first person I wanted to tell. And she was actually really happy for me! I know I’m in the minority in saying this, but man. I miss high school sometimes.
@@francescolia1601 Clearly we are not the same then. I’m positive my atheist friends have nothing to worry about and don’t need praying for in that department. The way I see it, if I have a shot at Heaven, then so do they, because it wouldn’t be Paradise without my friends. In fact, if I finish my Purgatory sentence first, I’m waiting for them at the pearly gates before I try to check in. I don’t care if I’m already dead and time no longer has any real meaning, I want to know that we’re going together 💛
As an atheist, I gotta say that the christian mythos and iconography are the most beautifull out there. An unique trait of christianity is the notion that beauty is a form of devotion. Other religions out there certainly created beautiful things in their own way, but they don't compare. For other religions, beauty is just comfort for their mortal bodies, while in christianity beauty has a divine purpose. A form of immortality in itself, because the body of the artisan decays while the work lives on. And as a fan of Roger Scruton, I gotta say that secular society lost a lot by forgetting it's christian roots. Faith in God gave way to faith in the State, with it's ugly, utilitarian, brutalist architecture designed to make the individual feel small.
I know this video is months old now but I want to share what I've been taught in school in Italy about the 515 (here they make us study the whole thing). 515 in roman numbers is DXV, which if we re-arrange it spells DVX, which is the latin word for "the one who leads", so basically referring to an emperor 515 also indicates a date, as the prophecy says that in that time someone will free society (or something like that) and lead it to salvation. To find this date that Dante's referring to we can add 515 to 800 (date of the creation of the Holy Roman Empire), which makes 1315, which the prophecy says it's going to be the date of the redeption of the Church. So, by connecting the dots, we can come to the conclusion that the 515 prophecy refers to Henry VII of Luxemburg, who was on the Pope's side instead of the French King's side in the whole Italian politics thing that caused conflict everywhere and also is the thing Dante costantly talks about when referring to the Florence politics and blah blah blah. Basically, Henry VII started an expedition in Italy in 1310 to help with the Pope's side cause, so, Dante, who was also on the Pope's side, was a huge fan of that and through this prophecy he expressed his hope for the redemption of the Church through this "DVX" (emperor) Henry VII in 1315. How did it go? Henry VII died in 1313 of whatever disease Lol Idk if someone will read this comment, but hope it helps Great video btw :)
So Henry VII’s sleeper code is 515 800. In all seriousness though that’s actually really interesting. Thanks for commenting. Never would have heard of it otherwise
Wendigoon I love how enthusiastic you are about everything, and being able to see you get emotional over the beauty you see in the literature truly is powerful. Great video as always!!
Hello Wendigoon, I love your channel! Have you read "House of leaves" I feel like it is something you would really like and has great cryptic stuff to make a video on. It is written in a very unconventional manner, where it is mainly set out as a dissertation of a videotape but there are several side letters and diary entries (which you sometimes need to decode), to get a completely new perspective of the story. It is really cool cause everyone has a different take on what actually happened, especially with madness being a key theme of the book. Thank you for making such great content :)
It always sucks when the only comments are from bots. For anyoje else reading I also recommend House of Leaves, make sure you get the full-color version and trust me when I say a digital copy or audio book is not the same as a physical copy
I looooove Christianity & all the other religions so much, I believe there's some truth to every single one of them and they all ultimately teach the same beautiful values & teachings. There's so much beauty in them, I often cry when learning about them. I have immense respect for the religious, the ones who are genuine in their faith and, as a muslim, I hope to see all my Jewish and Christians brothers/sisters, as well as the other people of the Books, in Heaven! We'll make it back to God, He's waiting for us.
@@CozyGoes at the end of the day we all just want to be happy forever with the people/things we love and almost all religions straight up admit, off rip, that we aint finding that on Earth.
I know I’m super late to this, but I’ve finally got around to watching and I just wanna say one thing, seeing you get emotional, wendigoon, just gave me sooo much more respect for you (as if it wasn’t there already). It’s takes a person of huge strength to show their weaknesses, and even bigger to record it and show it to millions of people. You are so strong and uplifting. Love you dad
Hey man that’s great you’re getting sober! Even better that you were able to keep yourself from leaning back into that cycle. Maybe you could think of addiction as your level of purgatory: it’s definitely hard to overcome, but if you can get through it, that “P” will be removed, and you are going to feel SO much better 😊 Proud of you, keep up the good work, and have a great day!
I literally love Wendigoon, my cousins and I started watching him around when COVID started and this man has literally gotten me through a breakup. That and my family all tell me I’m like a Mini Wendigoon since I bear a kind of resemblance and we all started laughing when we saw I have one of his same shirts, true legend in the making honestly he’s the only reason I don’t leave this forsaken platform, keep doing what you’re doing man, we love it and can’t wait for more!
throughout my life ive strayed from christianity due to its negative stereotypes & my toxic religious parents. in recent years ive learned to accept my beliefs but still struggle to embrace them. people like wendigoon and seeing the way he conveys amazing literary concepts about our religion is wonderful, it's liberating, it's eye-opening. it makes it more comfortable to embrace my beliefs without feeling harmful or intrusive to others, which sadly a lot of christian's/catholics do today. thank you wendigoon, eagerly awaiting paradiso
it is pretty clear that you are confusing christianity with american /western lifestyle and politics from the way you describe it and this is common with americans (they cannot grasp that they are only a small part of the world's population) and it is true that things are very messed up there which is also why the west is declining so rapidly both in population and in everything else (they are being replaced by muslim immigrants), however there is nothing more widespread and diverse than christianity (and islam in that sense), it is impossible to stereotype something that is part of all cultures, you have to remember that western countries make up less than 6% of the world's population, the overwhelming majority of christians are from africa, asia and latin south
Sorry about all that happened with the church. I hate when people are like that and they give Christians a bad look which is not how we are. As a person of Baptist faith, I'm so sorry again. No one should have that happen to them in the body of Christ. Jesus was the one who told us to love everyone sort of like He unconditionally loved us. That's what I'm trying to work towards more in my life. And it's hard to love all like Jesus does! And hopefully we can change the outlook of others who think we are all bad by just being good people. Like wishing someone that God gives them a nice day or telling someone God loves them! I think Jesus would want us to do that wouldn't He? Alright stay safe and I hope Jesus blesses you in all your days! Hydrate and be good! Bye!
@@Relies-t5v catholicism originated in europe. this is something that perverts most christian denominations not just those in western media. also wdym by replaced by muslim immigrants? they don’t make up a major population in america. Also Islam is still an abrahemic religion which perpetuates similar ideas as christianity
@@Relies-t5v ey Man whaz wrong wite the muslims :( . İ dont come to usa to make it a müslim place im coming there to "live as müslim" İts just the way of life 90population cristihan ,if thr 70of it brcamesit atheist and 30 of it becmaes muslims then is it a müslim countery ? İts preatty confusing Like a true beliver i am , and keep telling my slef "mind yo own fcuken buisness" You see gay *ignore* you see other relegins *smile and be neturel* Give less shit about ppl to live your own life brother 👍 hope you the best in life
I heard a great analogy about this recently I will pass on. 2000 years ago a boat builder built a magnificent ship (Church) and entrusted it to a flawed but worthy Captain (Peter, first Bishop) and it set sail around the world. Over the centuries, the crew has changed and the Captains have been replaced, the boat has been refurbished and restored at times, and many copies/replicas have been made as well. Sometimes there is a good Captain and sometimes there is a bad one, sometimes the crew are amazing, and sometimes crooks and thieves, but the ship remains to this day, and it is a splendid and beautiful thing, sanctified by Jesus himself. I used to hate religion, I looked at it as the bringer of many an evil to this world. But it's not the ship that is the wrong on this analogy, it isn't the boat that is flawed, it is the crew and Captain's. I have now returned to my faith, and theology and find it a truly beautiful and splendid thing. Hope this gives you something worthy of musing on as I did. 😊
57:45 I think that’s why Dante is justified in saying he’s the greatest poet. He’s the greatest because he has taken the works of philosophers, and Virgil, and used it to write his poems. He was able to run because they walked before him, and he is a better poet because he had the foundation that Virgil, St Thomas Aquinas, etc established. He’s acknowledging all the works before him and saying that they were what made his work possible. He doesn’t say he’s the greatest poet in competition with them, but in cooperation with them, that they were his teachers, and he took what they taught him and built upon it.
Hi, I'm a italian literature student and I think the meaning of Beatrice's profecy gets lost in translation. When she talks about 500 and 5 and 10, She Is actually refers to the Roman numbers D, V, X that spell the latin word dux, which means guide or emperor of some sorts. So even if it's still not clear precisely who Dante was refering to, we understand what he meant
A video must be compassionate to make me cry, and I’m someone who doesn’t get emotional very often. I’m a Spiritist, a religion in Brazil similar to catholicism that believes in reincarnation and spirits. Purgatory is a prevalent theme in it, especially redemption. Seeing you narrate this entire story and Dante’s departure from Virgil got me personally and made me tear up a bit. Good fucking work as always, dude. You’re one of the best UA-camrs I’ve seen
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Hell yeah
You make my day ten times better when you upload wendigoon, keep up the good work bro.
@@Laboncus I second this
@E R I N A 👇 okay wtf
How fitting that, during the Inferno video, Wendigoon scoffed at Dante's writing; Now in the Purgatorio he apologizes for being too harsh and 'repents' of his former criticisms.
we love to see character development (in both dante AND wendigoon!)
That’s actually some shit right there. Good eye on you
Hahaha that’s beautiful
No one wants dante to send their mom to hell yk
@@Rapas69 Dante's inferno is more like Dante's send-you-to-hell-note. Homie writes down that you're in hell and with 0 trial, you just drop down to a random level 😂
I honestly love the fact that Inferno was all Dante gloating about how the people he didn't like were suffering in Hell because they took life for granted, and the ending of Purgatorio is Beatrice going "Dude, you're doing the exact same thing they were."
As much as people rag on Inferno for being "Biblical fanfiction," the fact Dante wasn't afraid to cast himself off as a coward and a hypocrite says a lot about his integrity as an artist.
Hey dude
Comedy was written over the course of several years. So it's possible Dante either mellowed out some while writing this, or always intended to be shown to be more of a jerk while in Inferno.
Hey! Love your Berserk series! Looking forward to the Millennium Falcon Arc. Take your time with it, it’s a lot of work and we appreciate you for it.
Yay! Love your shit man, I’m not surprised you watch these videos.
@@arciks11 I really think it's the former. It would fit very nicely with the story he created as well, and better explains the lack of self-aggrandizing in Purgatorio. He relieved himself of his sins while making his way through purgatory.
Inferno was Dante telling us how good of a writer he was but Purgatorio was Dante proving it to us.
damn you're right
Dante writes Inferno: "Bro, I'm such a good writer, just wait and I'll prove it."
*Everyone reads it*
Dante writes Purgatorio: "See, what did I tell ya?"
*No one reads it*
Dante's self-aggrandizing writing seems to disappear in this section.
It would have been so meta if it stopped right after the "Humility" tier
And Paridisio was the cherry on top of the cake how contrast is that 9 layers of hell to the 9 layers of heaven
I've read that one translation of inferno that has the original Italian, the translation written in poetry in English, then an explanation of the symbolism (the one by John something i think) which I really liked and I've never gotten around to reading purgatorio and paradiso, so I'm really looking forward to this one. Been watching wendi for years and i love his stuff, I'm excited to have his be the version I'm getting it introduced in.
The idea that Dante takes a nap while Virgil and Stadius stand there like awkward NPCs is cracking me up
Vergilius. What is wrong with people. While we're at it, it's Homeros, not Homer. DOH'!
@@trixylizard6970 what
@@trixylizard6970me after the lobotomy
"So uh, weather, right? Surprisingly warm here."
"I've been in hell for centuries, it's quite nice here actually."
"Oh, yeah, right. Heh, forgot about that."
"I didn't."
"Heh, I bet.. so.. what's it like?"
"Hell?"
"Yeah, what's hell like."
"It's hell."
"Oh, heh, yeah, s- stupid question... *Whispers to himself* "Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Come on, Statius, you can do this!"
"What was that?"
"Oh, uh nothing."
"Ah, very well."
Basically that for at least six hours is how I imagined that.
@@trixylizard6970 🤓
As someone who isn't really religious, I did almost get emotional at the notion of God maintaining the Garden of Eden, our original perfect home, in case we ever wanted to return. There is something very touching about that, like a father keeping his child's room ready in case they ever came to visit.
Like the prodigal son story, where a father waited for his son to come back home.
This made me ugly cry
Those who are worthy will return 🙏When the sky falls and everything eventually ends, I hope to see you all & your families in Heaven
Samesies.
The dad analogy hits suspiciously hard
The thought of Virgil making that entire journey back by himself makes me deeply sad.
"Now this is a'far as Virgil goes, but y'all can make it to the bridge from here." ~Virgil in the beginning of The Parish Left4Dead2
I never even thought about the fact that Virgil not only has to walk all the way back alone, but has to spend the rest of eternity just chilling in Limbo. At least there are people to talk to I guess so he's not entirely alone but it's still depressing
That's limbo in a nutshell. Not so bad but still depressing.
Oh dear. My mind instantly went to "will he even get back?" Beatrice didn't ask for him to be saved, only to walk with Dante and, now that his job is done, Virgil doesn't have the "I'm on a journey from god" line to hold any power over the demons who would get in his way.
@@spindlespress Hopefully the deal implies that Virg doesn't get ripped apart by the Cerberus or stuck in a river of boiling blood on his journey back. Hopefully..
This is such a cool story, I wish Italians were real
Me as well bro.
Could you imagine it? If Rome and spaghetti were real?
Yeah. My friend said he was italian but I knew he was lying
That's the funniest thing I've ever read
Impossible. Not enough garlic to sustain their theoretical dietary needs
I would like to point out to everyone that there’s at least 1 entire level of Purgatory where Dante has “PP” inscribed on his forehead.
Lmfao
Hahaha PP
heheheh
they don’t call it the divine comedy for nothing
Wendigoon saying out loud "the angel wipes the P off Dante's face" without a little giggle at least means he's a better person than me
That part where god maintains the garden everyday in case people decide to return legitimately got me to tear up a little ngl.
Same. I'm an atheist but that's such a beautiful idea. Also Virgil going through the flames so Dante didn't have to go alone. Not Wendigoon out here hitting me right in the feels.
@@haveyoutakenyourmeds same here sister
@@tomolo2619 who is philipper?
It WOULD be touching, if He wasn't the motherfucker who kicked them out in the first place.
I was straight up sobbing ✋
A couple of cool facts about the Divine Comedy:
- Dante wrote it in 15 years, that is why you see a style change
- The comedy is written so it rhymes in a way to recall sacred numbers multiple times, for example you have 3 sections (inferno, purgatorio and paradiso) and each of this section is described in 33 canti.
- The idea behind the shape of Hell, Purgatory and Heaven is that when Satan fell he created a "Heaven" in his image, doing that all the dirt he moved went to form the Mountain of Purgatory at the other side of the world.
- When Dante and Virgilio get from Hell to Purgatory they use a narrow passage (which is where all the dirt from Hell came to form Purgatory) and all that is meant to resemble the act of birth from the fetus perspective.
nice king gizz pfp
Second point is wrong, satan didn't create anything and hell was just the hole that opened in the ground (that was repulsed by satan) when he fell on earth
@@bruhjonson1131 Yeah, I can see I could have explained that better. I didn't mean he worked in some way to shape Hell, he just fell and that was it. Still, Hell is mirroring Heaven, and the same is for Purgatory.
jesus christ
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That last phrase gave me psychic damage
"The angel wipes the pee off his forehead."
Well that's nice of him.
I like looking at the comments before the video starts so I can read stuff like this
@@possum8220 came to post this exact comment
At first I thought it was actual pee but I realized it was Peccatum
I was wiping the outside on my toilet bowl when he said this.
Dont let R Kellys lawyer see this!
This one hurts so many feels. Vergil's solemn departure hurts deep, but the line "God tends the garden of Eden to be just as it was before the fall just in case humanity abandons their sins and want to come home" made me misty eyed at work.
Yet...God would be the one to forgive his imperfect creations.
Same here. I was making dinner and was tearing up before I even got to cutting onions
Same! That line hit me so hard
@@CWHolleman you tend a garden for a future benefit - the harvest. God tending 'The Garden' for our future return to glory as his harvest is incredibly powerful.
As for forgiveness, that is a gift anyone can receive by simply asking. It's a standing offer.
Read this while misty eyed at work
"Virgil walked through the fire just so Dante wouldn't have to do it alone." That's some Samwise-tier bromanship there.
I can't carry it for you, BUT I CAN CARRY YOU!
@@Infrared01 *shire noises intensify*
"and they were roommates"
@@tomolo2619 keep the preaching in the church
DMC
Yes, Dante's writing does "improve" as he ascends to heaven. It is on purpose. Hell is characterized by unelegant, simple, unrefined expressions. Purgatory's language is more curated, more elaborated. Heaven's language is the closest it gets to pure poetry. It is more elevated and beautiful.
When studying this is high school, hell was reserved for 1st year, purgatory for 2nd year, heaven for 3rd year students. That's because it gets harder and harder to analyze and understand. Specially heaven, you really need to have some sort of translation next to it. We have multiple versions of the comedy, from less "adulterated" to almost completely translated. I remember our version had the original script on the left and a modern italian translation on the right.
So you're not imagining that Dante's writing gets better:D
Actually glad you noticed. Hopefully the english translation was accurate enough~
Dante’s ideas and skills definitely were developed during the comedy, improving over time is natural for writing.
@@placeholderdoe well yes, but as stated in the first comment, it's not just getting better with exercise. it's mainly a choice Dante made
So I guess Italians are real after all? Ralof above seems to have doubts.
That's so cool!
@@paulrosa6173 Personally, i'm italiagnostic; i'm open to the concept of an omnipeninsular entity, and I do believe that city-states have existed in a boot-shaped region of the world at one point, but having looked into the matter there's just not enough evidence of a government, or at least one that's currently functioning.
great vid, as always. As an italian in his 20s i will give you a bit of context about the relevance of the divine comedy in modern day italy. in every school in italy, in middle school you are introduced to Dante, then in every high school (no matter if scientific, classical, techincal, ecc) you will study every canto of the Inferno, and it takes years, and in some schools you even study the Purgatorio and the Paradiso. Also, Dante published the divine comedy in Florence in episodes, every canto was a different episode, and it got people in florence hooked, he was the original netflix! also think of it not in a litteral way, the Inferno was basically a diss track against his political enemies. Also, his version of italian (because at the time italian was not a universal language for the italian peninsula) became the foundation of modern standard italian. This stuff is the litteral backbone of italian litterature to this day. ah, also, my elementary school was called Dante Aligheri, i just remembered now while writing this, lol.
In America, we just read Call of the Wild.
@@Ebola-Kun idk, I was made to do a report on inferno in middle school. Though I was in those gifted classes, so that might play a part with a looser curriculum
Fa troppo strano sentire qualcosa che hai studiato per 5 anni a scuola spiegato da un tipo che vive dall'altra parte del mondo.
he was the original monthly mangaka
this guy speaks better English than I speak
I was raised catholic, I am not super religious now but something about god maintaining the garden every day in case humanity decides to come back home really gets to me.
Definitely a tear jerker.
@@rhondawhite1396 Very much agreed
🙏🏼
As an agnostic, that honestly gets to me too
I’m a pagan and that tears me up too.
I grew up in the church and I wish that I grew up being told about a loving, forgiving god.
Sorry about getting sad about religion lol
Dude you’re the farthest thing from “a little wimp” for showing emotion. The fact you knew some of the ideas and things mentioned are extremely personal for you, yet still shared it with thousands of strangers is the least wimpy thing someone could do. And that’s why you’re my favorite UA-camr.
Yeah, being able to show your true emotions is very brave.
Wendigoon favorite UA-camr gang
Well said
Too bad he believes in a fictional weirdo in the sky. Pathetic to say the very least.
agree! :)
This dude has ridiculous levels of charisma, probably among the highest ive ever seen in a youtuber. Its almost impossible to not like this guy.
He's awesome, love his content and commentary. He somehow finds a way to keep me attached to the video
kinda like bob ross tbh
Almost as much charism as the great Dante he wrote this you know
man took 10 charisma and 5 diffrent buffs fr
yeah idk how he does it fr, his videos are always bangers too
My man Vergil walked all the way through hell guiding Dante, pulling him away from the dangers, then went all the way up through the purgatory, even going full demon hunter as his bro was being tempted, and in the very end walked through cleansing flames just so Dante wouldn't be alone, letting him know that he was now a better man than Vergil himself was.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is a true display of sheer *Motivation*
BROtivation
You want forgiveness? Then come and TAKE IT.
*BURY THE LIGHT, DEEP WITHIN!*
The OG Sigma Grindset
Bromance always made me sobbing like crazy! Especially when the ending was like Virgil and Dante.
“Virgil walked through the fire just so Dante wouldn’t have to do it alone.”
“And even though humanity left God still takes care of Eden in case we ever decide to come back home”
“Standing before the garden of Eden, and in front of an infinite Love that dragged him back there, none of his desires seemed that important anymore”
that’s it we don’t need any books or any other analysis videos by anyone else, nobody could explain these ideas as perfectly and powerfully as this guy. His reaction to Dante’s take on God’s Love perfectly shows what these concepts do to the human heart, I have so much respect for this guy for keeping that in the cut. As a jaded Christian, this was so important to me. Thank you.
The moral of the divine comedy is: pussy above all.
Other than maybe the conspiracy theory iceberg, this Divine Comedy series is probably my favorite series of yours, and I can’t wait to see Paradiso. Keep up the good work.
I'd love more and more of these kinds of videos. I'm 110% not religious, but this is so so so interesting!
💯💯💯
He needs to do Paradiso
Give a try to The Monument Mythos if you didn't. It's pretty neat!
@@shinsei1565 to be fair, I did specify ‘series’, but the Monument Mythos was great, too.
The friendship between Virgil and Dante is heartwarming.
The line about how God tends to the garden every day Incase humanity ever decides to come back got me. Ik it's not completely biblically accurate but still got me.
God friggin banished humanity then is all like, "look how pretty the flowers are! You are _very_ welcome to come back."
*Glances at angel holding a flaming sword guarding the gate*
"Oh he's just for show."
God is a piece of work, that's for sure.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 wow you're so cool and enlightened I wish I could be as intelligent as you one day
@@golddustwoman4993 Thank you. I feel just like Dante being praised by the plebians of hell 🙂.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 that's what I mean this is is Dante's head canon
@@Minal_Aurapine Never said otherwise
I think the saddest part is that Vergil was talking about how he remembered Beatrice’s eyes and how beautiful they are, and even after his whole journey alongside Dante, he never got to see them with Dante. That really hit me
It's Vergil, not Virgil
@@DEVeloper_ACE In several translations, it is written as Virgil :)
@@hollandemerson7169 well then those translations are just wrong lmao
@@DEVeloper_ACE no offense but I don't think that really matters lol, they're 2 vowels that sound the same in that name, all language and writing is just squiggly lines that our brains think mean something because of being told it does our entire lives
@@Very-Uncorrect Virgin Virgil vs Chad Vergil
The fact that the "Pre Purg" levels are pretty much just God putting people on hold is absolutely hilarious.
They'll probably be on hold in Purgatory for less time than I'll be on hold with my bank
I like to believe there’s just “on hold” music playing 24/7 in that level.
Constant elevator music in the distance
@@xe8905now that's hell
"Please wait. An agent will be able to speak with you in [1,537] years. Thank you" *smooth jazz*
Hey Wendi - Just wanted to throw it out there that you shouldn't feel any pressure to make fun of something you're genuinely passionate about. Your enthusiasm is contagious, and a nice change of pace from the countless snide media reviews on UA-cam. Also as someone who loves classic literature but struggles to read it, thank you for this series. Eagerly awaiting Paradiso.
This ^^^
Agreed. He did a great job, and the more content he makes, the more we grow fond of wendigoon himself instead of just his content.
wendi
sorry about the Buick mate 😥
I couldn't agree more. I know his other content is fun and often for silly editorializing but this is, far and away, one of the most emotionally evocative things I've watched in years on the platform and it's purely because Wendi hits this perfect line of both casual and earnest.
Never has learning about Christianity seemed so comprehensible and soothing. Convinced this guy is not of this world
It's important to remember to always be IN the world and not of the world.
Wendigoon is very down to earth.
Dante's Divine Comedy is more like Christianity fanfiction, but yeah, it's pretty cool.
@@WandererEris fan fiction as opposed to the other fan fiction
@@goner1179 nice joke :)
That "free will/rightiousness" bit left me in shambles, but I was simply not ready for that ending with Virgil and everything after that.
It changed my whole perspective in my 20s
love when they met Virgil's second biggest fan. i can imagine Dante holding his laughter like spongebob when patrick said 24 in school.
I know it's late, but it's *pfft* 24
I got a better one...25!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@handtomouth4690 hahahaha that’s a good one 😹
I think that Dante's initial immaturity is thematically reflective of his journey through Hell, then realizing his sins and becoming modest and introspective in Purgatory, finally to the Purity and Selflessness of Soul in Heaven.
Symbolic, Dantes demeanour is reflective of the atmosphere of each afterlife.
It's interesting how Virgil/Vergil is famous in modern times mostly because of Dantes work. It's like the ultimate shout out to your muse. So that they are remembered forever.
Being remembered forever is truly the ultimate gift.
I never heard of Virgil until this series. In a funny way, makes me think that Dante writing these names so people will remember them. Such as the dead and such, actually did work.
I don’t know why. But something about that is kind of amazing. Sure he had some pride for sure. But in a way it was kind of true. And I think that’s kind of cool
The ultimate gift is Life at the side of God.
In Italy he is taught as a poet of his time. Definitely in the top 3 Latin writers (Horatio and seneca being equally as big)
@@basedkaiser5352 pretty sure Virgil wasn't gifted with life at the side of God 🤣 therefore the ultimate gift given to HIM was to be remembered forever because of dante.
Virgil is the guy who wrote the Aeneid, bro
Huh, I think this is the first time I've ever truly understood the appeal of faith and religion. Like, obviously I've always understood, on a more abstract level, that it brings comfort and direction and a sense of purpose to many people, but seeing this guy getting emotional about the end of Purgatory finally made it really "click" for me. This was an incredibly moving and enlightening video even for somebody who's never been religious at all.
It really does give some sort of solace. It's nice to believe that maybe, just maybe, there is a force of unending mercy and love. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but with all the bad in the world, it's nice to think that there is a love greater than what I can humanly conceive when I die. I hope that everyone can find that solace.
Man, I can't imagine a life like that and I mean that with no offense or underlying malice. I genuinely just can't imagine living without my faith or God😓
Jesus Christ is God incarnate who came to earth to be born and live a perfect life, a sinless life. (He is one person of the Trinity, consisting of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; one God in three persons not three Gods.) Jesus then gave Himself up to be crucified and died to pay for the sins of the whole world. My sin, your sin, the sins of everybody. 3 days later He was resurrected. He now offers salvation to all who will turn from their sin and trust Him to save them from eternity in hell. He paid our debts because we couldn't, but we have to trust Him to do it. I cannot add anything to what He has done (not even baptism). I cannot do enough good to take even a year off of my death sentence in hell. The sentence is a never ending one, because I have sinned against an eternal God. But Jesus took my punishment, He saved me, and offers that same salvation to you. I am praying for you.
Mood
Agreed, it really sank in when seeing Wendi cry about humanity coming back home
Religion is a beautiful beautiful thing and I feel kind of disappointed that I can’t make myself believe in it
Wendigoon, never apologize for showing emotion! It doesn’t make you silly, I promise. Novels and entertainment are created to allow us to feel and be human.
so true
real
"...When Dante sees this he panics and turns to speak to Virgil who isn't there anymore."
i can't believe im about to cry over a 300+ year old poet fanfiction are yOU KIDDING ME
YO SAME T_T
behold, the power of *fanfiction*
700+
Reason can only take you so far
SAME THE FACT THAT IT WAS BASICALLY DANTE MAKING FANFIC OF HIM AND VIRGIL AND IM CRYING OVER THIS
I love when Im like
“I hope Wendigoon continues this series”
and then he delivers!
My exact feelings
@E R I N A 👇 going to hell for lust enjoy the wind
Ngl, That part where Vergil reveals that he cannot go with dante anymore kinda broke me also. Knowing Vergil just prepared Dante to be better than him Just adds salt to the wounds
It's about as bittersweet as it gets. It's such an honour, but it's tragic that it has to come to an end. It's like birds and people, they've got to leave their flock someday. It's sad, but that's what the whole journey's been about up to that point.
Never thought I'd feel so emotional watching a dude who talks about conspiracies and analogue horror go through a Biblical fanfic.
@@FormaAlert Im kinda religious myself, so I actually felt what wendigoon's going through that time.
As a Christian myself, ngl, hearing this summary and seeing your reaction to reading it really got to me. While like you I don’t believe in a lot of the things that Dante presents in this story, the beauty of which he tells this story and your genuine reaction I think convicted me. If I can be candid, I haven’t been living the life I should be, to put it lightly. But honestly this has been wanting me to be more intentional in my own relationship with God. Thank you so much man. You’re one of my favorite UA-camrs and I’m happy and thankful to be subscribed to you.
I came for the disturbing movie iceberg. I stayed for the wholesome sobbing Christian boy. Love you windibro. Keep it up. 11/10
Another important aspect of the Divina Commedia:
Dante's use of words varies between Inferno, Purgatorio and Paradiso, going from more "vulgar" choosing of words in Inferno to an "elevated" use of the language in Paradiso.
So what's his language in purgatorio?
@@raptorjesus2516 it has the empathy of a lil Caesars employee
@@ronkledonkanusmoncher564 Actually the perfect description wow
No, your reaction is right. I'm not a Christian at all, but I see incredibly deep meaning and beauty in this story.
I'm not religious but I also see incredibly deep meaning and beauty in this story.
And that’s what really matters :)
But you know deep down that god is real and Jesus loves you, because he does very much
Christianity is what ultimately up holds anyoens morals and virtues. Believe that when you read and pray you will encounter God not only what the 5 pound human brain thinks as fantasy. Truth is hidden it cant be that easy to find a good life.
@@Sarah-qo9bu You don't get to speak for anyone else's religious beliefs other than your own. You believe in God? Cool. The other person said they do not. Respect their beliefs and keep it moving.
I’m not even Christian but I felt so emotional towards the end this is a pretty story
"Dante wakes up in the back of a chariot."
_Hey, you! You're finally awake!_
Lmao
best game ever
💥🔫😂👌
NNNNNICE
The final layer… Helgen
Right now I’m reading Dante’s inferno and trying to get through the divine comedy because of you! Thanks!
Ayo what the fuck is up with the replies 😂
Someone be entering too much of their info into them questionable websites
Yoo me too
Edit: which canto are you on?
@@Hipsael please report them every time you see them. They're just disgusting bots that spread sexually explicit things.
@Yoshikage Kira Not if I report you first
It is so refreshing to see a UA-camr of such high level be able to profess his faith and be able to be open about his emotions and not just be a tough guy. Wendigoon you are awesome my dude!
I had this on in the background, and let me just say that it's an absolute experience to zone back in just to hear "an angel wipes the pee off of Dante's forehead..."
Dude when you realize that that Virgil went through all the fire and suffering just so Dante wouldn't be alone 😢
I was crying bru
That damn near made my cry, ngl
@@kayleighbrown459 I be crying rn 🥲
*Vergil
The original "Bros before hoes".
I actually love that u got so emotional abt this and I literally cried while u were describing it lol. So many people intellectually distance themselves from old old literature like this & seem to forget that it was written by actual human people & ive never understood that. To see you actually acknowledging the beauty and humanity of such a mythic story is so refreshing
I don’t like that people (especially Christians) don’t be an eye to this incredible epic of a story. Even if you don’t believe that Hell is like what he describes, or purgatory doesn’t exist. Just the story of Dante travelling through hell, and now seeing him mimic his way up the mountain is incredible
I mean, a piece of literature that has survived the coming and going of not only millions of books, but dozens of empires had BETTER be as impactful as that! No judgement from me getting choked up over the legacy of one of the longest lived artworks that we have.
Also, as a sister in Christ, like...YEAH. God has been tending to the garden of Eden ever since we left because He misses us and wants it to be perfect when we come home??? That's an intense illustration of the origin point of Love, cared for out of Mercy. That's like the foundation of the entire thing of Christianity, so if you're a person of faith and that doesn't SLAY YOUR HEART, I just don't know man.
As someone who’s taking a university classics course, I deeply enjoy this series. I shared this video with my professor (a classicist from Italy) and she loved it and recommended it to the rest of our class. We all hope you continue and finish The Devine Comedy!
Useless degree
@@motosich9572 they didn’t mention their degree they just stated a course they’re taking .
@@motosich9572 critical thinking clearly isn’t your strong suit
@@motosich9572 Not that it’s any of your business, but I’m actually a senior chemical engineer. Being a well rounded student includes learning various types of curriculum- something which you might benefit from. It’s ignorant to call a field of study useless simply because you deem it to be. Clearly since you’re here you should have at least some respect for the classics, otherwise you’re wasting your own time.
@@mafuyusato5549 Exactly, dude! If not for English lit, Classics, psychology, gender studies and a ton of other humanitarian sciences, there would be like 85% to 90% less baristas, fast food workers and only fans models in the world. All sciences are good for something.
Dante put an inside joke in a book and people are confused for 700 years.
Beatrice is all like, "what do you even have to be sad about, lol."
She's obviously never seen a true bromance end.
I wonder if Tolkien was inspired by this story at all. The journey of Dante and Virgil reminds me of Sam and Frodo's relationship a lot. Sam risked everything to help Frodo carry a burden he himself couldn't carry. Really great stuff, and awesome video. Keep it up
Being an ardent Catholic and lover of old stories and mythology I wouldn't be surprised if Tolkien was.
Gollum is the lady angel of course
Sam is actually so incorruptible, that the ring couldn't hold sway over him.
Probably, ther is even frodo gtting worse as they go through the journey. Becaue trauma and th ring, but still.
Gollum is the last step an in a way help, but gandalf in the angel, gandalf literally in story is a messengr of the creator god. So th the scene with him coming, he is the angel or beatrice make more sene as bilbo. Frodo even enters the pure etherial faraway lands, tht hae to be heaven, wit bilbo.
I thought that too!
I personally like to call Dante "History's most critically acclaimed fan fiction writer"
Oh yeah definitely with alot of self inserts with irl wife as a holy angel hehe
@@skullcandy14785 Beatrice wasn't his wife
@@thesilverblueman ye, ot's a lot more self insertey than that. She was an already married woman that he pined over
@@thesilverblueman ベアトリーチェ！！！
I mean you not wrong
58:11 You are not lame for sharing your emotions with us! You’re passionate about the story and want to share that with us! If emotions are apart of that then its okay!
30:30 you are in fact correct to say that his writing "improved": as a matter of fact, he planned to "upgrade" his writing style throughout the whole book, as he "traveled" up to heaven.
you see, in medieval times, there used to be two versions of "italian" as we know it now, caused by the fact that not everyone was able to study-and Italy wasn't unified yet, so the languange would divide itself: they used to speak either "volgare" and latin, the first one being the "language of the poors" (for example, what a poor medieval farmer would know, so kind of the basic and more simple speech) and the second well..it's latin (if you were a priest or high up in the social ranking-or just rich enough to be able to study, you would know latin).
Dante obliviously knew latin as well and so he planned to have a writing style/write the dialogues in three different ways: inferno would have the most basic speech (with lots of swears and cursing too), meanwhile purgatorio would have had a more high up level of speech, not latin yet but sort of a midway, something that a well taught person would know but still be able to be understood even by some of the "lower socially ranked" people. then up to paradise, it gets to straight up latin and just has reeeally complicated words/expressions. ideally, the closer you get to God, the harder it gets to comprehend.
hope this was useful :)
Great comment!
Underrated comment!
Underrated!!! Thanks for sharing!
Where did you hear about this? If this is something I am interested in leaning more about, would you be able to give me some direction?
And they said people back in the day were stupid...
Me: "Man, wendigoon's summary of Dante's Inferno was amazing. I wonder if he has done Purgatorio?" *video uploaded 45 minutes ago, literally as I was watching the Inferno summary.* That was definitely a sign, and I subscribed because of it
The exact same thing happened with me lol.
Wendigoon is the best man welcome to the party
Same lol
Welcome to the family! Get ready for his Giant fixation lol
Literally same
Inferno was pretty solid, purgatory was just absolutely top top tier. I genuinely hope you cover paradise soon.
He did it now
Shut your mouth
virgil leaving has me crying and throwing up in the club
You should make a video about Revelation... I'd love to see you explaining it
He should make one for each book of the bible.
Ayo? U watch his videos too? Well, I just want to say that I like your vids.
He should make a video about my Luigi rule 34
Pretty please
@@PA-1000 ye I watch goon all the time 😭, and thank you for liking my stuff bro!
No worries about being sappy. Feeling emotions over fictional characters is not a sin, I think. Virgil really is one of those ultimate bros. Looking forward to the third and final segment.
I genuinely teared up while you were describing Virgil's sacrifice/departure and God taking care of the garden of Eden, the fact that the stories you cover can both creep me out and make me cry is why you'll forever be the my favorite youtuber
Bruh whatt I almost had to turn it off idk what it is maybe it’s the hope that god has for man that man almost doesn’t give back
This is my favorite because I feel like it gives people hope. Especially with the idea that we have the power to turn away from things such as addiction or crime, and get back on the right path. That means that no one is ever truly doomed to be punished forever. Love it 💙
I first read Inferno in college nearly 20 years ago and I’ve been obsessed with it ever since. Not long after reading it I was lucky enough to take a 2 week trip to Italy and was actually able to see Dante’s tomb. It was really sad to see, knowing of his exile and how he couldn’t even be interred in the place he loved most.
I’ve actually never read the entire Divine Comedy despite wanting to and owning a copy (that was written in Italian with the English translations on the opposite pages; I was seriously obsessed with Italy back then and hope to return someday), so I really enjoyed listening to you summarize it. I actually started crying with you!
I’m not religious, if anything I’m a pantheist, but even that little bit of faith has been tested lately. Last summer I was hospitalized with sepsis and put on a ventilator. I was close to death for a couple of days, both my lungs so full of fluid they were completely white on x-rays. There were a few times I was semi-conscious, and my clearest memory is feeling *intensely* alone. I didn’t know where my parents were, I actually thought I had been moved from ICU to a private room far away from everyone else, left alone with no loved ones to support me. I found out later that I hadn’t been moved, of course, and my mother had spent every single day in my room, and I’d been visited by aunts, cousins, friends. My older cousin who I haven’t seen in years, he’s a preacher, and he saw me on two separate occasions to pray over me. I was so moved.
My psychiatrist has since told me I have PTSD from this incident and I definitely agree with the assessment. It’s been over 6 months and I relive that loneliness everyday. I used to hope that when you die you would at least know, feel it somehow, or be reassured by loved ones at your side. But now I think it’s lonely and no matter who’s there nothing will comfort you. It’s terrifying. But listening to you get emotional over faith and the idea of a guide walking with you so you don’t have to be alone… it’s really beautiful and hopeful and actually the one thing that got me through my experience. I’m not religious, but I believe in those who’ve gone before me, they’re the ones I call angels. I just turned 40, my life is far from done, and the love of the people who have already passed will protect me. That’s what I thought when I would get scared. And it comforted me, every time. I have faith in the bonds we make in life.
Sorry for the huge emotion vomit but this video seriously hit me in the feels, too. Thanks, Wendi.
- a fellow Appalachian
Oh! And just a suggestion (that I’m sure others have probably told you before) but if you haven’t already you should DEFINITELY check out Raised By Wolves on HBO Max. I think it would be right up your alley! I’d love to hear your take on it! It’s absolutely wild and rich with religious symbolism, mythological references, and crazy sci-fi nonsense.
thank you for sharing this, I thankfully never had do go through something similar, but I wish you the best
if it's any small comfort, 99% of every single story from someone who has been dead and resuscitated stated that they felt warm, at comfort, and completely protected, like a giant hug. Even cases where people killed themselves after being brought back because of how good and comforting death felt. So in reality, it's very likely that ACTUALLY being dead is just a very pleasant and comfortable state of sleep, just floating contently.
If it’s any comfort, the Italian federal court recently repealed Dante’s exile from his home town. Dante literally got acquitted in court. He is no longer exiled from his home.
I can relate! I can’t get over this story. I cried like a baby, and still do when I think about certain aspects of it.
Wish I would have known about it sooner, but I guess it came to me at the right time.
It’s funny though because I was talking to a friend, and he told me to read Paradise Lost. And I said okay but I’m going to need time to digest this one first lol
Next thing you know I’m listening to Mumford and Sons album delta. The song “Picture you” and there’s a part in the song where it has an excerpt from John Milton’s Pardise Lost. 🤯
As a fellow Christian I get the intense affects of seeing/hearing acts of forgiveness and mercy. Dante paints a beautiful picture of both Beatrice and Virgil as Christlike figures, giving their all for someone they have no reason to. Got me a bit emotional too. Much love Wendi.
"All physical items can be lost but spiritual goodness cannot"
I like this concept.
I think Buddhist have that too
Matthew 6:19-20
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Very Platonic.
@@trixylizard6970Very Patristic. The Church Fathers teach the true possessions we have are the virtues or vices we clothe our soul with.
The thought of God just waiting, tending the garden for us if we ever want to be by his side again…😢 totally made me cry with pure emotions. I haven’t felt this warm feeling in my chest for a long time, I was starting to give up and think I’ve just gone cold. You’ve done a great thing here, and for many more than just me I’m sure ❤
It feels as if, and this is my interpretation, Dante wrote the trilogy in memory of Beatrice. He loved her so much it was a way to relieve his grief and to overcome it. To write the stages of his loss and acceptance. He represents her as Jesus because in life she was his saviour and he felt like she saved him from a life of sin, and that he cannot live without her, at least not a good life. Without her he faltered, and is ashamed of himself for falling from grace so easily. He comes to learn in a reflection tthrough religious beliefs, she doesn't need to be there for him to love her and to do good with her. That he can do good and live right in respect of her, just as he was doing while she was alive. This is a love story, a story of a man who would walk through hell for the woman he loved. But instead of coming home with her, he learned to overcome his grief and that one day they may be together again.
My partner might die in surgery in nine days and I fear I will become Dante in my way. I already told them I would cleave them world in two for them, in their memory and in their continued existence. They were the only real light in my life and they may fade soon. I don’t know what hell I’m going to thrust myself into yet.
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 I'm really sorry that you're so afraid and that there's a possibility you may lose the love of your life. There's nothing that can be done, other than telling her you love her every single day, look after her, make sure she's as safe as you can make possible. She's lucky to have you in her life, and I hope all goes well, and if it has passed that she is okay and that you have plenty of time together.
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 Is your partner ok, now?
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 is your partner ok?
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 I understand. My significant other just yesterday went through a surgery that easily could have killed her. Thankfully, she's okay. I hope your SO is okay, too
I just thought one cool thing: Paarthurnax a dragon from Skyrim that says "What is better? To be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" is actually living through purgatory. Cool bonus point is that he resides at the top of the mountain.
Damn, I bet Bethesda was referencing this since it’s still so prevalent in culture today
You could take that a step further and say Alduin is the serpent returning to drag him down, and the Dovahkiin is the angel sent down (By Akatosh in this case) to fight him off.
The relationship between them even has the same consequences. Just as in Purgatorio, the day the "angel" can't fight anymore and the "serpent" wins, that marks the beginning of "Judgment day", or the end of the Kalpa cycle in the context of Skyrim.
I don't know if the writers intended all of that necessarily, but it's fun to think about all the parallels you can draw.
Imagine if some loser gave you a quest to go kill him...
@@tylertheinborncreator2796 imagine being the loser who completes the quest
@@Toxic_COB I know right? You should just whirlwind sprint off the mountain at that point.
This man needs to become a professor. He explains everything in way that I don’t need to fast forward or get bored
Omg I know right
Better yet he could become a successful youtuber and get to talk about more interesting topics all the while making more money.
I think he did teach for a living, at least before this channel really blew up.
He's really good at this for sure
y'know, as an italian, i never realized just how much of a "masterpiece" this whole thing was up until some random guy on youtube started explaining everything i half-remembered about the story
and i had to study that damn thing
i never thought i would get so emotionally invested by this but the part where he says that Virgil went through the burning hot flames just so Dante wouldn't go alone almost made me cry
I'm not Christian, but the ending where virgal leaves dante really got to me. That hurts man
hes gonna have to walk all the way back down to hell all by himself :(
Jesus Christ loves you and died for your sins please turn to Christ and have a blessed day
@@trivetteamy CONVERT CONVERT CONVERT CONVERT CONVERT
you don't have to be religious to enjoy a beautiful story.
It isn't Christian doctrine
Virgil suffering alongside Dante so that Dante can advance further is analogous to our ancestors living so that we can move forward. I appreciate your humility and courage in sharing your response to that image. It's so refreshing.
This video tripped me out. Towards the end where you mention Beatrice stating in the future someone known as "515" would come to defeat the vixen and the giant. I had no knowledge whatsoever regarding this before watching this series on the divine comedy. But I had a vision in a dream involving the number 515 that sent chills down my spine back when it happened, and was instantly reminded of it as soon as you mentioned it.
In the dream I was inside the foyer of a church I went to as a child. I hadn't been inside the church for at least a decade at this point. It seemed to take place in the future as this church was somewhat outdated in terms of decor, but it was all updated and renovated. I was speaking to who I presume was the pastor in this foyer (was dressed like a pastor for sure) he wasn't someone I know or recognized. I don't recall the conversation at all but what I do remember is noticing a fancy wooden plaque over the doors that lead into the sanctuary that just had the number "515" written on it. I asked the pastor dude about it and he simply replied with "WE ARE THE 515" and I awoke immediately knowing I just experienced something important but not knowing what it meant at all. The best thing I could come up with was that he was referencing psalm 51:5. That seemed relevant at the time as I was deeply in sin at that point in my life. Hearing this symbolism from Dante just added a whole new layer of confusion to it
Anyone with ears to hear have any ideas?
Bro you are who Dante was talking about 😹
Could either mean that the "priest" was the dream embodiment of 515 or that 515 refers to the church itself, it being what's supposed to slay the giant and the vixen in your life
I was not expecting to tear up while watching this, BUT MAN Virgil’s goodbye was so sad and heartwarming.
It was good to see you get emotional, dude; not because I like to watch people cry, but because it was impressive to see that a 700-year-old book was still capable of drawing that kind of response from a reader. So, thanks for sharing that experience, even if it felt awkward for you.
1:18:31 Wow. Never seen someone do that when they made it big before, genuinely the most honorable guy in this godless wasteland called UA-cam. Massive props.
True integrity is very rare
Ugg’s
That’s mad respect from him. I still can’t believe he made it to a million subs. I started when he was at about 875k
It’s crazy how fast he’s growing and I love him
@@SMA2343 I remember starting when he had less than 100k, it's been amazing to see how he's progressed. Such an awesome dude.
Even as an atheist, I do find myself incredibly moved by the same moments that you did. It really was beautiful.
I would absolutely love for you to cover Paradiso, your interpretations and commentary are wonderful and entertaining!!
Please don't let such beautiful moments of emotion simply wash over you. This is emotion and mercy on a level that we simply don't get to see without God playing a role in it. You recognize the power and beauty in them, so don't let that go to waste. God is reaching out to you through the literature.
@@NovusIgnis dont push your ideals on people, they said they're an atheist, respect it. You can see beauty and understanding in something without devouting your life and meaning to something.
@@NovusIgnis pushing religion onto others is the exact reason so many people are becoming atheist. If God was real, he'd welcome atheist over hateful and pushy christians
@NovusIgnis up yours churchman.
@@NovusIgnis I was also moved by this part of the story. However, I was born and raised Christian. My opinions on it now have changed, but I find myself wishing that I believed in a home in the afterlife. However, now with more research and knowledge, I don’t believe. I can’t believe. But I wish I could.
im obsessed with the fact that i can just watch a wendigoon version of the divine comedy that makes me so happy
Each level of Purgatory just sounds like absolute hell. No pun intended.
I mean you are "redeeming" yourself in a way. Can't be easy
Atleast it isn't hell itself
Better than being stuck in a world where I have to see this name and profile picture in every single comment section.
@@marse5729 don't shoot the messenger but... youre kinda in that world
@@gamewizardthesecond i think he knows
The idea that Dante went "By the way, the inheritor of the Christ is gonna kick ass." is absolutely glorious.
I hate how the term “greatest of all time” has been ran through the mud so much that it’s losing its weight, but for me this episode is goated. Everything from the way he presented the story to the deeper meaning he found in Dante’s writing is phenomenal. Thank you Wendigoon, see you at Dante’s Paradiso. 💖
My boyfriend's best friend was in a terrible car accident yesterday and it's seriously so freaking hard to think about this world without him I know my boyfriend won't be the same and I keep thinking about death and mortality a lot...I hate that death exists...it's such a hard traumatizing thing to deal with a pain we all experience in some way...I'm just hoping for the best and I was brought to tears hearing about Eden...how we can come home when we are ready...I just hope everything will be okay and this isn't the end for this man who has helped my boyfriend more than anyone in the world...these videos are helping me during this time when I don't know what to do with myself thank you for everything you do. ❤
As someone who isn't superstitious, I always found death to be quite alright, having been around it a fair bit.
What seems to be problematic as I've seen it is that people left behind tend to focus on nostalgia and the potential time lost as opposed to focusing on the time that was had with whoever died.
It's like being given an ice-cream, then half way through it, an earthquake makes you drop it in mud.
Instead of being sad about the half you didn't get to eat, consider how cool it was that you got to eat any ice-cream at all.
I consider myself an atheist, yet I couldn't stop crying either when Virgil left Dante. I think what got to me is that I've rarely seen religion depicted in such a deeply human way. Did not expect this video to get to me so much, and maybe I appreciate it even more because of it. Thank you so much, I really can't wait for the next video
this is such a great way to put it!
I’m seeing a lot of comments like this. It’s really cool you’re tolerant and even sympathetic towards the religious. We need more of that if ether side wants to try change the others minds.
However, The divine comedy is fiction. There’s not much that’s biblically accurate in what Dante wrote. Honestly, Dante made it sound way more fantastical then it actually is.
@@Steph-sk3xb I think the fact that it IS fiction is what gives it so much more power to atheists. As one myself, the fantastical nature of the Bible and other canon stories just seem too outlandish. But knowing it was written as fiction gives the values portrayed and the lessons it teaches that much more meaningful, because we aren't forced to believe all of these things actually happened, we're just expected to learn and grow from the lessons and values!
If you read and study many stories of the Bible, you’ll be shocked to find that many of its lessons are deeply rooted in human nature. When I was becoming a believer, the thing that really shifted me was when I first gave the Bible a try, I was shocked by how human it was and how much I could relate. Almost like the stories of the Bible and their lessons were able to make me feel and teach me something despite their age. Truly timeless
I love how dante sees beatrice, freaks out, look for virgil and freaks out even more when he's not there. It's like a scene from a movie.
Nvm someone should make a movie based on this
“the sword has joined the shepherd’s crook”, i’m going to remember that one
That was amazing. Thank you so much for the video
59:00 it's so sweet seeing how much certain parts affect you, please don't ever be ashamed of having emotions.
42:01 I love this little moment so much, because it's so familiar. No matter where you are, spiritual journeys or just normal humans, I can just see this happening among a group of friends. It's so lovely. Thanks, dad
*Dante in **_Inferno:_* corruption arc
*Dante in **_Purgatorio:_* redemption arc
Also I can’t help but imagine that your sentence in Greed has got to be a huge relief to anyone who had previously done time in Sloth. But I kinda get what you mean with all this love and forgiveness stuff making you feel things. Back in high school, nothing made me more sure in my faith than talking about it with my atheist friend. She never expressed any interest in converting (and I wasn’t about to try to force her to), but she always seemed so fascinated with what I had to say about my practices and some of the stories from our tradition, and…I don’t even know how to describe how it made me feel. Lighter I guess? But we both got so much out of just talking about what I’ve been taught and what I believed in that, when I got Confirmed, she was the first person I wanted to tell. And she was actually really happy for me!
I know I’m in the minority in saying this, but man. I miss high school sometimes.
Are you me?
Same story. I pray for my atheists friends as much as possible
@@francescolia1601 Clearly we are not the same then. I’m positive my atheist friends have nothing to worry about and don’t need praying for in that department. The way I see it, if I have a shot at Heaven, then so do they, because it wouldn’t be Paradise without my friends.
In fact, if I finish my Purgatory sentence first, I’m waiting for them at the pearly gates before I try to check in. I don’t care if I’m already dead and time no longer has any real meaning, I want to know that we’re going together 💛
@@HannahBanina yeah, I don't think they are going to hell or something, but they need to be saved
@@HannahBanina that is the sweetest thing ive heard. dangit, now im tearing up again
As an atheist, I gotta say that the christian mythos and iconography are the most beautifull out there.
An unique trait of christianity is the notion that beauty is a form of devotion. Other religions out there certainly created beautiful things in their own way, but they don't compare. For other religions, beauty is just comfort for their mortal bodies, while in christianity beauty has a divine purpose. A form of immortality in itself, because the body of the artisan decays while the work lives on.
And as a fan of Roger Scruton, I gotta say that secular society lost a lot by forgetting it's christian roots. Faith in God gave way to faith in the State, with it's ugly, utilitarian, brutalist architecture designed to make the individual feel small.
I know this video is months old now but I want to share what I've been taught in school in Italy about the 515 (here they make us study the whole thing).
515 in roman numbers is DXV, which if we re-arrange it spells DVX, which is the latin word for "the one who leads", so basically referring to an emperor
515 also indicates a date, as the prophecy says that in that time someone will free society (or something like that) and lead it to salvation.
To find this date that Dante's referring to we can add 515 to 800 (date of the creation of the Holy Roman Empire), which makes 1315, which the prophecy says it's going to be the date of the redeption of the Church.
So, by connecting the dots, we can come to the conclusion that the 515 prophecy refers to Henry VII of Luxemburg, who was on the Pope's side instead of the French King's side in the whole Italian politics thing that caused conflict everywhere and also is the thing Dante costantly talks about when referring to the Florence politics and blah blah blah.
Basically, Henry VII started an expedition in Italy in 1310 to help with the Pope's side cause, so, Dante, who was also on the Pope's side, was a huge fan of that and through this prophecy he expressed his hope for the redemption of the Church through this "DVX" (emperor) Henry VII in 1315.
How did it go? Henry VII died in 1313 of whatever disease
Lol
Idk if someone will read this comment, but hope it helps
Great video btw :)
appreciate the insight! hopefully more people will see this
So 515?
this concept needs a video in itself tbh
So Henry VII’s sleeper code is 515 800. In all seriousness though that’s actually really interesting. Thanks for commenting. Never would have heard of it otherwise
Oof to that hope when you get to Henry VIII
I might not be religious, but it always makes me happy to see when a piece of art is able to connect with someone in a personal level.
Wendigoon I love how enthusiastic you are about everything, and being able to see you get emotional over the beauty you see in the literature truly is powerful. Great video as always!!
Hello Wendigoon, I love your channel! Have you read "House of leaves" I feel like it is something you would really like and has great cryptic stuff to make a video on. It is written in a very unconventional manner, where it is mainly set out as a dissertation of a videotape but there are several side letters and diary entries (which you sometimes need to decode), to get a completely new perspective of the story. It is really cool cause everyone has a different take on what actually happened, especially with madness being a key theme of the book. Thank you for making such great content :)
It always sucks when the only comments are from bots.
For anyoje else reading I also recommend House of Leaves, make sure you get the full-color version and trust me when I say a digital copy or audio book is not the same as a physical copy
YESYESYES I would love Wendigoon's take on House of Leaves!!! One of my favorite, weird books on this planet.
i agree, its a cool book!
100% agreed - would definitely recommend
100% agreed
I looooove Christianity & all the other religions so much, I believe there's some truth to every single one of them and they all ultimately teach the same beautiful values & teachings. There's so much beauty in them, I often cry when learning about them. I have immense respect for the religious, the ones who are genuine in their faith and, as a muslim, I hope to see all my Jewish and Christians brothers/sisters, as well as the other people of the Books, in Heaven! We'll make it back to God, He's waiting for us.
the world does not recognize how similar us three people of the book are
Nearly all religions pray for peace and love. It's sad how we for no reason seperate, despite wanting the same thing.
@@CozyGoes at the end of the day we all just want to be happy forever with the people/things we love and almost all religions straight up admit, off rip, that we aint finding that on Earth.
abrahamic religions are so similar yet we all hate eachother, its sad
“I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess.” - Virgil
I know I’m super late to this, but I’ve finally got around to watching and I just wanna say one thing, seeing you get emotional, wendigoon, just gave me sooo much more respect for you (as if it wasn’t there already). It’s takes a person of huge strength to show their weaknesses, and even bigger to record it and show it to millions of people. You are so strong and uplifting. Love you dad
Getting sober, was right about to be an idiot again and this came on. Reminded me of everything and convinced me not to. Thanks dude
Hey man that’s great you’re getting sober! Even better that you were able to keep yourself from leaning back into that cycle. Maybe you could think of addiction as your level of purgatory: it’s definitely hard to overcome, but if you can get through it, that “P” will be removed, and you are going to feel SO much better 😊
Proud of you, keep up the good work, and have a great day!
Hey man, how’s your sobriety journey going? Sending love from someone going through the same
Hang on in there! 🫂
I get the struggle dude, I constantly have to stop myself, its so worth it though it really is. 5 months off Heroin
@@jakemartin3126 congrats to the both of you
I literally love Wendigoon, my cousins and I started watching him around when COVID started and this man has literally gotten me through a breakup. That and my family all tell me I’m like a Mini Wendigoon since I bear a kind of resemblance and we all started laughing when we saw I have one of his same shirts, true legend in the making honestly he’s the only reason I don’t leave this forsaken platform, keep doing what you’re doing man, we love it and can’t wait for more!
throughout my life ive strayed from christianity due to its negative stereotypes & my toxic religious parents. in recent years ive learned to accept my beliefs but still struggle to embrace them. people like wendigoon and seeing the way he conveys amazing literary concepts about our religion is wonderful, it's liberating, it's eye-opening. it makes it more comfortable to embrace my beliefs without feeling harmful or intrusive to others, which sadly a lot of christian's/catholics do today. thank you wendigoon, eagerly awaiting paradiso
it is pretty clear that you are confusing christianity with american /western lifestyle and politics from the way you describe it and this is common with americans (they cannot grasp that they are only a small part of the world's population) and it is true that things are very messed up there which is also why the west is declining so rapidly both in population and in everything else (they are being replaced by muslim immigrants), however there is nothing more widespread and diverse than christianity (and islam in that sense), it is impossible to stereotype something that is part of all cultures, you have to remember that western countries make up less than 6% of the world's population, the overwhelming majority of christians are from africa, asia and latin south
Sorry about all that happened with the church. I hate when people are like that and they give Christians a bad look which is not how we are. As a person of Baptist faith, I'm so sorry again. No one should have that happen to them in the body of Christ. Jesus was the one who told us to love everyone sort of like He unconditionally loved us. That's what I'm trying to work towards more in my life. And it's hard to love all like Jesus does! And hopefully we can change the outlook of others who think we are all bad by just being good people. Like wishing someone that God gives them a nice day or telling someone God loves them! I think Jesus would want us to do that wouldn't He? Alright stay safe and I hope Jesus blesses you in all your days! Hydrate and be good! Bye!
@@Relies-t5v catholicism originated in europe. this is something that perverts most christian denominations not just those in western media. also wdym by replaced by muslim immigrants? they don’t make up a major population in america. Also Islam is still an abrahemic religion which perpetuates similar ideas as christianity
@@Relies-t5v ey Man whaz wrong wite the muslims :( .
İ dont come to usa to make it a müslim place im coming there to "live as müslim"
İts just the way of life
90population cristihan ,if thr 70of it brcamesit atheist and 30 of it becmaes muslims then is it a müslim countery ?
İts preatty confusing
Like a true beliver i am , and keep telling my slef "mind yo own fcuken buisness"
You see gay *ignore* you see other relegins *smile and be neturel*
Give less shit about ppl to live your own life brother 👍 hope you the best in life
I heard a great analogy about this recently I will pass on. 2000 years ago a boat builder built a magnificent ship (Church) and entrusted it to a flawed but worthy Captain (Peter, first Bishop) and it set sail around the world. Over the centuries, the crew has changed and the Captains have been replaced, the boat has been refurbished and restored at times, and many copies/replicas have been made as well. Sometimes there is a good Captain and sometimes there is a bad one, sometimes the crew are amazing, and sometimes crooks and thieves, but the ship remains to this day, and it is a splendid and beautiful thing, sanctified by Jesus himself. I used to hate religion, I looked at it as the bringer of many an evil to this world. But it's not the ship that is the wrong on this analogy, it isn't the boat that is flawed, it is the crew and Captain's. I have now returned to my faith, and theology and find it a truly beautiful and splendid thing. Hope this gives you something worthy of musing on as I did. 😊
57:45 I think that’s why Dante is justified in saying he’s the greatest poet. He’s the greatest because he has taken the works of philosophers, and Virgil, and used it to write his poems. He was able to run because they walked before him, and he is a better poet because he had the foundation that Virgil, St Thomas Aquinas, etc established. He’s acknowledging all the works before him and saying that they were what made his work possible. He doesn’t say he’s the greatest poet in competition with them, but in cooperation with them, that they were his teachers, and he took what they taught him and built upon it.
Virgil and Dante have one of the best bromances in history.
Gilgamesh and Enkidu "se quedan pendejos" to such bromance
Virgil and Dante, Gilgamesh and Enkidu, Arthur and Merlin. Probably more that are slipping my mind.
Sam and Frodo.
Hi, I'm a italian literature student and I think the meaning of Beatrice's profecy gets lost in translation. When she talks about 500 and 5 and 10, She Is actually refers to the Roman numbers D, V, X that spell the latin word dux, which means guide or emperor of some sorts. So even if it's still not clear precisely who Dante was refering to, we understand what he meant
Thank you! 😊
Second Coming of Christ ?
yeah sure, "italian" nice one mate
A video must be compassionate to make me cry, and I’m someone who doesn’t get emotional very often. I’m a Spiritist, a religion in Brazil similar to catholicism that believes in reincarnation and spirits. Purgatory is a prevalent theme in it, especially redemption. Seeing you narrate this entire story and Dante’s departure from Virgil got me personally and made me tear up a bit. Good fucking work as always, dude. You’re one of the best UA-camrs I’ve seen