@@Anthintendo And ye, the scroll was opened, and Gabriel spake thus to Satan "L & Foolish One & Trodden Upon & Downcast & Thou Art Fallen & Weighed in the Scales and Found Wanting"
The most amazing thing about all this in my opinion is that Milton didn't "write" Paradise Lost; one of the greatest pieces of literature in the English canon: he was blind, so dictated the entire story to his daughters who wrote it down for him. This man had to imagine this entire thing and couldn't keep any notes or references, since he couldn't read what he'd written!
To me, the most haunting thing from Paradise Lost that still disturbs me to this day is the imagery of Sin. Something I was hoping you’d bring up in your analysis of her character is that she is constantly giving birth to these canine monsters who, themselves, copulate with her to produce more and more of themselves in an eternally incestuous cycle. When I first read this, I felt it was meant to represent that the mind often falls in love with its own creations, “ideas”, and unless these ideas are presented to the wider world for scrutiny and discourse, then the idea will fall in love with itself and often spawn even more ideas solely off from its own imagined merits, but with each subsequent new idea becoming even more flawed and degenerated than the last. It’s a disturbing allegory of how bad ideas that are never brought to the light of day will fester and multiply unto themselves until nothing else can be done about it. What starts as a thought of pure beauty can, over time, degenerate into an overflowing cesspool of madness if you aren’t careful.
That's a horrifying revelation, and even if its in a biblical sense here, I can definitely see this being very familiar to the modern world from... certain political stances to something that hits closer to home for me, being an artist and writer and not taking some time to get feedback for the ideas that I make for my own works.
Ngl as someone who follows a lot of nsfw artists and knows a lot about the medium(obviously not supporting the worst parts of it) I was pretty much desensitized to the concept but this really sheds a new light on it
The fact that he was able to come up with something that represents the idea of sin birthing more deplorable sin is, for lack of a better term, beautiful. There’s nothing I can imagine that could represent this concept better, and that’s a testament to his writing talent.
What astounds me most about this twelve-volume poem is that Milton, having gone blind fifteen years before Paradise Lost was published, dictated the entire thing to his daughter, which she then wrote down. Milton evoking such beautiful imagery while blind reminds me of Beethoven composing the Ninth Symphony while completely deaf. Absolutely amazing
At the beginning of book three, Milton once again calls to his muse, and even mentions his blindness; how he’ll never again see the beauty of the world, or the divinity of the human face. But he also says that’s okay, because it further allows for the light and inspiration of the Holy Spirit to shine from within him. I thought that was really beautiful when I read it.
@@Laocoon283The prevailing understanding is that there was no Homer, it was rather a collection of authors building a 'genre' known as Homer. Of course, any understanding of Homer needs to be understood from the concept of Troy. Homer wrote of Troy and was seen as a myth for millenia... until the city was found exactly where Homer wrote about it.
The description of Lucifer being struck by Michael's god given sword is the first experience of pain in the universe is one of the most metal things i've ever heard.
"Look at the chart. *I would body you in an instant.* " is the single greatest characterization of an Angel speaking to Satan I have ever heard. 45:00 for anyone wanting to hear it again XD
knowing the context of the religious conflicts in the 1600s makes these works so interesting because you can see the distinct similarities between the story and what the author was going through in real life
I wonder if Milton was trying to draw a comparison to the royalists after the civil war. Personally I think Satan's characterization is more comparable to Cromwell.
Really its what makes it such a fundamental piece of western culture. Its not only incredibley well written, but its focus contains deep insights on one of the bigger paradigm shift in western culture
My favorite parts of this: - Gabriel calling Satan a wuss - “Wow, that cherub is…going through it.” - Adam innocently asking if angels mate and Raphael physically blushing - Adam seeing what Eve did and realizing that he was going to be lonely again and he’d rather be dead - Satan’s argument to taking over Heaven basically being “You think God is our Mom?? Do you Remember being born? I don’t remember being born” and it WORKED?? - Mary being the Second Eve that defeats the Serpent on Eve’s behalf - “Tell me about His great battle” and him getting choked up explaining that the “Battle” was literally just Love - Satan in paradise carrying Hell with him bc of his Despair and humanity leaving paradise with Hope - “I’m sorry did the Snake write this???”
1:00:17 It's so funny how Lucifer and the angels are seriously at war and God just casually turns down their powers like he's a dad supervising his children's fight so they don't destroy the house
Satan tried to fly outside of hell and it didnt work, a gust of wind does just so happens to catch and carry him back on track..... I guess considering the authors love of gods power and foresight it would make sense that god canonically was on top of business the entire time
It also calls further into question the audacity and insanity of Lucifer’s arrogance that he could fight God. Like, buddy, God casually depowers EVERY angel at once including you and Micheal…what chance do you think you really have here? lmfao
Satan will always lose that’s something to laugh at. The way he uses people to laugh at you or whatever it may be to knock you down .. just remember where his doom awaits. Lmao
@@OLDIRTYDAVID My own. These are fictional stories lol, although Lucifer being a representative of ambition & self-interest naturally leans me more towards his point of view. Certainly not on Gabriels side, the worm was a glorified errand-boy; like all of the people who bend the knee to the neckbeard in the sky.
I almost cried at the part where Adam saw Eve with the fruit and the wreath falls to the ground. But the way it was immediately followed by SO SATAN AND ALL THE OTHER FALLEN ANGELS ARE BUILDING A CHAOS BRIDGE THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS THIS ENTIRE TIME. My sides went into orbit.
1:30:15 This is hilarious to me. I love the idea of a bunch of demons sitting in Hell just doing their evil demon things and then suddenly they’re like “Aw crap, it’s Snake Week again.”
Brother don't you dare apologize for crying! This story is beautiful and made even more so by your telling of it. Crying in UA-cam videos does come off as "cringe" sometimes but it all depends on the context. You put tears in my eyes friend and and I'm not at all ashamed or embarrassed about admitting that. As always...thank you for all that you do. You're the man Mr. Goon!
@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 The comfort part made me shed tears of joy, I felt happiness when I heard it. It may not be accurate to the texts, but even as a portrail it was beautiful and comforting.
I’m not Christian, in fact I was brought up in a very anti religious household. I’ve always had an interest in religion, but seeing you cry over the loss of purity in humanity really solidified how much religion can mean to people. I thank you for sharing a religious view on things as it’s helped me understand how important it is to those who believe it.
It is very hard to not weep at Milton’s poetry, specifically when it deals with so deep and so tragic a story as the Fall of Man. I do not know if you already have, but if you ever have the chance, read Paradise Lost itself. Even when one is not Christian (as I am), it enraptures the soul, and I have seen even Pagans and Atheists moved by it.
I’m agnostic, always had a spiritual side of me, but never really dedicated myself to a certain religion, but these Christianity and Biblical stories have been so interesting to me lately, it does make me think.
“Love does not exist without the concept of free will. Something cannot be loved if it’s just for subjugation. It has to be a willing desire to follow something else”. Damn Wendi is getting deep with it here.
And wholeheartedly true, in a beautiful way. There is a universal law, known as the law of freedom, if that law is broken love is destroyed and rebellion arises. And another universal law is the law of love, if this is broken undeniably death is likely to follow, since love is the action of giving and receiving, such as the way of life as we know nowadays. This is a simplified explanation of a book based on certain principles found in the bible. So when I heard it the first time, I couldn't help but to think about these laws, amidst others.
So what about the free will of Mary? You know the woman god raped? Where was her free will, her freedom to say no, or her right to tell God to go to hell instead of forcing her to give birth to Jesus? No matter how deep it sounds we can not forget that God forces his will on others when it suits his need or to make a bet with the devil and ruin a man's life. So tell me again about this supposed love and free will again done by God.
@@valor1omega if you actually read that section of the Bible you’d know that an angel literally came and visited her to tell her she was gonna bear a child by God in the future and she was all for this, literally celebrating. Second God did not rape her, he doesn’t need to have sex to impregnate someone. He can literally do it at the snap of a finger. Your just spouting some nonsense you probably got off TikTok.
@@valor1omega I guess she could have refused, but would anyone do that? Imagine, you are Mary all alone in your house, then suddenly an ANGEL appears out of nowhere and tells you that the god you belive in choose YOU to give birth to his son. You can chose the interpretation of the story of course, but to me it wouldn't make much sense to refuse.
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Can you explain what the reference is? He's always going GIANTS with this wink wink attitude but I have no idea what he's referencing. What's the joke?
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If you decided to do an entire read through of the Bible and describe every story in it, I would ABSOLUTELY watch it. Just this video alone made me more interested in these religious stories and I want to know more about it!! I’ve never really considered myself a Christian-I grew up pretty disconnected from religion itself, but your passion and emotion directed towards this story was amazing to watch/listen to. Thanks for this man, I can’t wait for the next one
There's an audiobook of Paradise Lost that has an ensemble cast, with Ian McDiarmid as Lucifer...so you literally hear Emperor Palpatine plotting against God and it's amazing
@@suchislife801 he’s a Sunday school teacher, I’m sure he knows more Biblically than you- so what if he pronounced Satan differently than you do? It’s not like he’s uneducated on the topic.
Your description of Adam's love for Eve and the beauty of her existence moved me too. Something about the idea of their love for eachother surviving the fall from grace reminds me of how powerful and amazing love is.
@@burningbronze7555 what? i think he recounted it in a pretty easy-to-understand fashion lmao. love endured even before they were taken up to the mountain, which was the whole point of man in the first place.
As someone who is a Christian but has experienced a lot of religious trauma, I think your reaction to Christ's sacrifice is so refreshing, definitely not cringe. Christianity has been used as a manipulation tactic so much throughout my life, and seeing someone have such a pure love and appreciation for Christ is so beautiful and very healing❤
Thank you, and thankfully it has gotten better. Recently I've come to have a relationship with God again and work through the trauma. It's still difficult to talk ab religion with others or go to church, but I'm happy to be at peace with God now.
That sounds very familiar to a character I’ve seen in a game before. That isn’t important right now. Hopefully you’re healing and doing well right now.
Damn... was anyone else moved to tears watching him read the poem of Adam resigning himself to his fate with eve??? So much emotion in wendigoon, reading that!!! Broke my heart!
Hit me out of nowhere. I have tried to read paradise lost before and found it obtuse and boring. But his reading of it made it clear how beautiful the poetry was and how heartrending the story could be. I was genuinely moved.
Anytime I stop to think about the debt of sin being lifted from us, paid in blood by the son of God, I am compelled to weep. Tears blurry my vision as I type this. The warmth and light of God's love is a feeling like no other.
I know exactly what you mean . There are very few stories that make me feel some sort of melancholy nostalgia, almost like from a past life.. I think blood meridian also gave me that feeling also.. I'm apache myself , and grew up with stories told by my grand father, with very eerily similar tragedies as blood meridian.. the way it describes them , makes me picture everything like I was there , and witnessed the worst of it while being helpless.. very strange feeling.
The way that you present Christian theology and stories is so palatable, between this, Dantes work and the Sunday schools you're allowing me an unblemished insight into the actual lessons trying to be taught through the bible, I am learning a lot and I am grateful for this, thank you
What lessons have you learned so far? You don't have to explain but I also think you can gain insights through stories like this as I have through other works especially the 48 laws of power and the stories they use to explain them.
If you need anything related to Christian theology i highly encourage looking in to the church fathers and their teachings first, and then watching videos on youtube talking about faith.
Man, you're the only one who can sell me biblical stories in a way that has me genuinely invested and wanting to hear more. No preaching, no judgment, just your passion for the story and how it affects you personally, as you approach it from all these philosophical perspectives, and it's just so genuine that I can't help but be on board. I left organized religion years ago (I was raised catholic) and at this point I'm just kind of a spiritual whateverist based on whatever feels meaningful to me, but revisiting the biblical stories with you is almost kind of nostalgic. Reminds me of my grandma, who's really into angels (yet not so much into christianity as a whole, it's mostly... angels laced with new age spiritualism). Angels and demons and the genesis/exodus story have always been my favorite parts of the christian religion when I was a kid, so it's nice to revisit it from a different perspective.
@Tala K Prayers for ya sister. You are not alone. Mine is as well on the fence shall we say. He believes, but isn't as devout as one could be...shall we say.
@Tala K I mean wendigoon Is southern Baptist lol, obviously those denominations have serious problems, but painting a broad brush over a whole group is never really that great
@Nexus, it's good to hear you enjoyed it, and I'm sorry to hear that (based on how you wrote your comment), that you've had bad experiences with Christians. I won't tell you how to feel, or what to think. I was an Atheist for most of my life, so it would be hypocritical to try and twist your arm into feeling a certain way. I just hope that you know that there are good Christians out there, and that the actions of some don't negate the words of scripture itself. People fail, but human failure doesn't change the truth. I hope that at some point you can gain more passion, rather than be a "whateverist".
@@funnelingspace9268 Agreed lol. But you can say “Fuck the S. Baptist church, their whole org is insane and corrupt” while also saying “…but lots of Baptists are good people and aren’t necessarily all-in on the party line.”
i'm not a least bit religious and wasn't born in a christian household either but tell me why this absolutely beautifully complex story has me in tears. stories about satan's fall has always intrigued me. paradise lost explores his characterisations so ...humanely? i love this so much!!
You should probably keep in mind this was written from the perspective of Satan, who might not be one of the most reliable of narrators given his track record.
@@balthasargelt4098 yeah, but with the context and their punctuation it kinda reads as one of those random unasked for "you. idc what opinions and thoughts you have, believe in my religion NOW." types of comments
If you like the stories so much then I suggest you read many of the stories of The Bible. This story is rooted in Christian themes and ideology . The thing that converted me was how true and relatable the lessons of the Bible were. How much they resonate with human desires, conflicts and experiences is crazy.
Seeing this man get worked up at the end talking about Jesus really shows the depth of his character. This is the same man that describes to us unimaginable horrors. I love this channel.
The Devil: "Do I have free will? Can I just choose to not be completely awful anymore?" ... Also the Devil: "Nah nonono, I'm just like this. It's God who's at fault."
I've legitimately wondered, the devil definitely wouldn't be like this, but are demons just simply not conscious and do they only act on instinct? It would make sense to me, but I don't remember anything specifically about that from biblical writing, but I would have just missed it, it would be there. Either way, I'm gonna go back and look
@@metalstrophe6471 most biblical demons have been shown to have complete free will and their own desires and intentions. Way more complex than instinct as the syn of man is not instinctual in nature.
The snake tried to get her with the Apple. Thankfully, Eve was an Android woman. She also votes Trump. The snake got grilled on the barbecue. Don’t step on snek 🐍
@@ThatMagaLifeWhat I find interesting about the story of Adam and Eve is how she was the one to be fooled by a nefarious influence. This reminds me of how the majority of advertising is directed towards women because historically they have been more easily manipulated. Women in the US maintain the majority of all credit card debt.
The way you characterized and narrated and interpreted how Adam loved Eve so much that he chose certain doom just not to lose her made me tear up. Im agnostic (born catholic) but these interpretations of yours are all very moving. It made me tear up. The same way I teared up when you described how Dante loved Beatrice after he gets to her in Dante's Inferno and how Beatrice prayed for a man and how Dante was that man. Great video as always
I’m sorry but born Catholic is quite a hilarious way to put it, like it seems you’re biologically Catholic or something. But then I’m born Christian but am still trying to find my own believes, but this is indeed a very touching description of what I considered as just a tale.
@@nen4965 I mean, people say they're born Jewish and say that it's just a religion and then say it's a nationality and not a religion. Do what you must with the idea of being born Christian, or even better born again.
Even as a non religious person I absolutely love these breakdowns and seeing how much this means to you makes it even better. I really do enjoy learning about these things and since I'm generally too busy to read them myself this is the next best thing.
same, and I’ve found the diction in old texts hard to comprehend, so to hear everything in an entertaining manner in layman’s terms is a breath of fresh air and a beautiful whole new depiction of the universe to enjoy~
Why do you guys constantly have to tell everyone you're not religious? We don't care lol. "Oh btw my soul is damned to everlasting torment, but I really liked the video!"
I immagine him just seeing the cherub cry, instantly thinking:"damn, he is going through a lot......". 20 sec of him just staring at a cherub worried and then:"wait a minute, cherubs don't cry.........oooooooohhhhhhhh fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk, I gonna go get Gabriel"
I like to imagine Uriel just calmly standing in the garden and seeing off to one side is a frantic, very sad and distressed baby cherub just pissing and shitting in the corner and Uriel thinking "huh, that's weird" Edit: My first comment to hit 1k likes!
As a fellow Christian, I deeply appreciated the love and care you put into explaining this poem to us. I, too, was moved to tears several times. As an English teacher, I also appreciate a poem that has a reputation for being boring getting some of the recognition it deserves.
This is such a beautiful story. The part where Eve was considering suicide and specifically Adam's response broke me. I also cried with you when Michael was describing Jesus' coming. Videos like these are my favourite of yours. They not only educate but help me reflect on my own life and beliefs. Thank you for sharing them.
The imagery and words chosen are immaculate, not only from John Milton, but from you explaining his work. The only problem with this is that it is hard to not take it as fact because of how much sense it makes. Especially with the imagery spoken of Adams Love for Eve.
The fact that people can read this as making Satan the good guy really speaks to Milton's writing of the character. Here he isn't a caricature of evil and depravity, but a prideful, charismatic leader who could make a valid enough argument to convince legions to follow him in his personal and private pursuit of power and glory. When people read this and say "he kinda has a point" that is EXACTLY the point! Because people don't simply bow down before someone to make them king because they say so, they make someone king who promises all riches and reward in return, who preys on their own pride and beliefs and says "I can give you what you are being deprived of". It's masterful
@@Jonap2001 his argument appealed to the pride in those angels that sides with him. But I don't think he necessarily lied, he said to those angels "let us go to war against God and I will treat you all better than he ever did". Something to that effect. It may have been untrue, but a lie must be not believed by the person speaking, and I think Satan truly believed he stood a chance, blinded by his ego and wrath. No doubt though he would have said anything he thought would turn the most angels to his cause, so he very well may have lied, but to his audience, the angels of whom he wanted loyalty, he had to make a very convincing argument so that they would see his as a just cause and rebel against their Lord God. When I say his argument must have been valid, I don't mean it was righteous by any means, but effective at convincing those angels to side with him. He no doubt played on their own pride and jealousy, but his argument was effective.
@@noahfenech3369 He literally did lie to them, if you reread or listen to the story, Satan lied to them saying they weren’t created by God and was equal to him if they had attempted a coup. It appealed to them because he deceived them. There’s a reason why he’s considered to be The deceiver. it’s not a valid argument at all if it isn’t based on the truth
@@noahfenech3369 I suppose I just personally disagree with it being valid since he used lies, but in a way it is well written enough for you to see how the angels were convinced using his arguments
the fact that Wendigoon cries and even has enough self awareness to say "its all real... to me" is something that i find amazing, i spent many years in the church fell out of it and am realizing i am a believer and i think Wendigoon and his honesty and not hiding from his beliefs have brought me back around to understanding God is real and i love hearing these explanations on things as wella s all the other stories and takes on events and things like the backrooms so blessed i found this man the fact he doesnt push it on anyone is also amazing
Lord bless you and keep you, may his face shine upon you, and be gracious to you. He loves you 100% and he was thinking of you on the cross. God bless you!
I'd totally watch wendigoon do a rundown of the entire Bible. I've watched this video 3 times already just cause it's so enjoyable and he makes religion actually kinda interesting. My parents are Jehovahs witnesses and I wasn't very into learning about religion when I was younger but after watching this and the divine comedy videos I want to learn more.
I’ve fell off with religion a lot in the last 10 years of my life. This video feels like it did when I was 5 learning about god for the first time. It’s such a beautiful story, truly. Thank you for bringing this feeling back to me, Wendi. You’re a gem ❤️
@@frightfactoryYT Wow. When I was a child I loved goin to church. It was the only place I had friends that weren't jerks. Most ppl are competitive and narcissistic and I felt better around ppl that didn't treat ppl like that...plus church gave us dinner and snacks, plus fun stuff and singing for Father. I miss it. Probably the only really true innocent times I can remember were at church no tv, no internet, no reason to try to impress anyone or judge each other. I'm sorry that your experience wasn't with people that made you feel loved like it should have been.
People these days are so cut off from God. We all think that we can find our way to Him without needing to get up early on a Sunday. We all think we're growing closer to Him when we remember to occasionally thank Him for some piece of good fortune, but the fact is we aren't. We're so separated and isolated from God and the world jsut keeps doing everything in its power to keep Him away from us. I felt so drained and devoid of happiness recently and it wasn't until I went back to church that I realized it was because I had grown so far apart from God without even realizing it. We *need* church in our lives. We need a community of believers to hold us accountable and keep us firm when the world wants to push us away from God. I recommend everyone finding a good church near them and going back. Where else is better to find God than in His house, with His body?
@@NovusIgnis sure, which denomination should I attend? There's Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Catholic, LDS, FLDS, Seventh Day Adventist, and the list goes on. I want to make sure I pick the correct one because they all have different practices, rules, and beliefs. Which one is correct?
"just as satan carries hell , we carry eden " . thats some powerful words right there ive never thought about it like that . gives me hope as well in my faith.
Satan is not in hell yet. He's also not going to rule hell, he's going to be tormented with all the others as well. Hell is a creation of God. He can only move as God allows him.
I love how much respect Eve is given in the story. I heard very ignorant people validate the pain women go through in child birth bc of Eve and that it automatically spits women in this place of shame and disrespect. So much of the story acknowledges the beauty of growing a person inside and constantly points out that Eve was the first “Holy Mother of Man” meaning she deserves respect. It’s just so refreshing to hear Adam speak about his love for his partner and the importance of her in the world. I teared up at some points too.
Yeah, it shocks me to hear how people read Eve’s deception and sin to be a “woman stupid-bad, man wise-good” argument when Milton clearly portrays Eve as something so good and so beautiful. Somehow, people see misogyny in places like Eden. It makes little sense to see it this way.
Adam and eves love in this story is so fucking cool… they went from perfection to disgrace and despite it all, despite pain hatred envy rage fear uncertainty and guilt … chose to love each other … I like to think that ends up being the thing that saves them… their love for each other… and when they finally get into the perfect paradise… nothing about their love changes… because it’s already perfect even if they argue.. even if they tell and disagree… even if they hurt each other.. apologies come afterwards.. because that’s what their love has always been… even in sin their love is perfect
Wow, I studied as a monk for 3 years… and this video, your commentary.. was deep and profound. I’m grateful that we can remind each other of the divinity we all have inside us, but can only mean anything if we don’t have the bad to compare and judge it to. A person who never sees ugliness, can never know what is beauty
It is NOT cringe to get emotional! This is a powerful and long-beloved story, and it made me emotional too just hearing you tell it. Your genuine engagement and vulnerability with your audience just shows yet again that you are an excellent storyteller. Thank you for being willing to show your true feelings. It makes your narration all the richer.
The reverence Adam spoke of Eve after she had eaten of the fruit and how no other creation by God would suffice to him; the tonal shift with Windigoon during that moved me. I agree with your assessment, he did it honor
I don’t think he meant it was cringe to cry while reading it I think he meant it was cringe to have it on a UA-cam video shown to millions. Not that I’m making fun of them for it. He clearly felt strongly about it.
I loved how touched he was when talking about the purity of love, Adams’ love for Eve, and Jesus’ sacrifice as the ultimate and last sacrifice of love…such a sweet moment
It creepy to me. Like that one fanboy who was crying over the Star Wars trailer. Except in this allegory the cult of Star Wars is a bloodied ideology that is responsible for killing and torturing innocents while holding back scientific and cultural progress.
I love how the story describes the times Satan was caught lacking. He was disguised as a frog. I can only imagine a demon hiding from angels by pretending to be a frog holds the same expression as silent shock of walking in on someone doing something stupid in their bedroom.
I woke up half way through this video having a weird dream about demons and i was like ohh duhh, but finished it and man i got to give it to you wendy you are quite the story teller it really got to me, Im going to read this book. For real thanks bro you inspire me a bit to want to be a better Christian. God bless you man!
I took a whole English class in college about just this book. It's that dense in meaning, every line deserves its own analysis. Truly one of the greatest works ever composed in the English language.
There is a second production that's supposed to be in the works right now that's crazy immersive and really let's you lose yourself in it. I'm actually in it, and I can tell you, it's kinda boring for most of it, but the highest points are pretty good and the low points are moving. I just wonder if this is a video game, or a movie.
Man, this got me. I've been struggling lately with not feeling like I'm enough and not worthy of God's love because the mistakes I've made. but the part where Michael is describing how Jesus will come down and experience all this pain and hurt to bridge the gap to where sin wont matter and we have a chance to be with Him again and just the love with Adam and Eve. makes me think maybe I'm being a lil too hard on myself. great video, Greater God.
It's also the fact that Adam started constantly blaming her since then broke me even more. I think it were those moments that made Eve realize just how big of a mistake she made, since Adam's right - He bared her sin with her just because of her own selfish idea to have Adam all by herself instead of letting him have another Eve (and I'm not saying this as a bad thing, after all Adam was being selfish too by disregarding the consequences just to be with Eve) and now he has to suffer for her sake too. That amount of guilt is probably what made Eve break down first.
As a 31 year old guy ,it goes without saying that ive struggled with faith my entire life. So when I say this , understand that im being genuine. Listening to your channel as well as the lore lodge , has genuinely given me faith in a God that cares . Thank you for that . Your casually accessible discussion of Scripture is refreshing ,and more importantly, it feels genuine. Wendigoon, I owe you one.
I'm glad to hear it! :) If you haven't heard of it already, maybe you'd be interested in BibleProject? They have short videos that explain entire books of the Bible in a more accessible way. Not mention they provide much of that ancient context you wouldn't have in the modern world. You should check it out.
Love is all encompassing, sadly the Bible was manipulated by many bigots in ancient times and written to spread propaganda of a conquering nacional. Christ is the one answer to hate
@@erickromero8587 i was raised catholic in an abusive household, so needless to say i felt abandoned by God, the way he describes this story makes me want this level of faith, so i will be going to church this Sunday
I've tried to read Paradise Lost a couple of times, but I guess I'm too dense for it, because I just can't grasp it. However, I am deeply fascinated by the story, so thank you for taking the time to tell it in such a fun and engaging way. You have a new subscriber right here. ❤
You're completely right about people misunderstanding this book as just E-boy Satan, and I'm extremely happy you covered it. I bought it a few years ago and just couldn't get into it sadly, so I watched some other UA-camr cover it and they painted the plot so terribly compared to you. It was such a basic run down and pretty much laid out what you said most people interpret the book. They just focus on the whole sympathy for the Devil aspect which isn't there and don't even mention the real meat of the discussions between Adam, Eve, and the Archangel Raphael, the fall of man with Adam's pure undying devotion to Eve, and the intrigue Adam had. I found it so interesting that in the book Raphael said it's okay to ask questions and be inquisitive. I went to a Catholic school from grades 1-11 and it always seemed like if you asked questions, you were questioning God's plan and activity going against him, and it's like no, just curious. Great video like all your others, but I think this one is just a bit better. Maybe it's that personal touch you have with Christianity.
I remember growing up having the same problem when I would ask questions that I just genuinely wondered in my young mind, my parents or pastors or other church members would often say something along the lines of “because that’s God’s plan” or “you may understand when you are older” or just basically giving me the run around kind of implying that these questions I ask are unnecessary and to let it go. I have question everything tattooed on me and I am no longer Christian or religious for that matter and one of the many reasons for me losing faith was that sort of thing. Being made to feel like I was doing something wrong or “challenging God” for simply questioning things
@@cinnamoncigarettes I don't think it's wrong to question things especially if you're following along and believe too. Why not fully understand what you're doing?
Wait so you couldn't get into it and you watched other youtubers to read paradise lost? So How did you fully understood the meaning of the book if you didn't fully read the book yourself. It's a slight contradiction. I bet you made this to only praise wendigoon for his reading it which is fine but did you really need to make it very asinine?
Yeah... it *is* pretty funny to see the vastly different interpretations of the story between Christian & more secular readers. Like, can a Christian reader understand Satan's declaration of the god character's tyranny? Or are they just too primed to presuppose the justifications of heaven's righteousness.
@@happymate8943 hey, if you’re going to get on your high horse, could you, at the very least, check your comment for grammatical errors? That was just painful to read.
It felt like Adam's lamentations to the tragedy of discovering Eve had partaken of the Forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, the consequences of that action that ultimately made him rescind himself to Death, is like a wedding vow of pure unyielding love to his other half. Whole in life. Whole in death. It's like the concept of marriage had emerged for the first time. And it's tragically beautiful.
I like adams backstory in record of ragnarock for the same reason. He’s just an absolute man. Loves his wife, loves his kids, loves gods creation. Simple as.
It's well done but amazing how so many rely on what was told them instead of what is written. Eve did not convince Adam. Adam was right there as she bit into the fruit and handed it to him. Read again.
1:23:05 the saddest thing is that nobody realizes this is the first time love was wasted on arguing. The time they spend now arguing instead of loving each other is limited because she ate the fruit. Before it was eternal and now everything, even love has to come to an end. Truly a paradise lost
Nobody would suggest that love has come to an end because of this. I reckon the real takeaway is that we have to swallow our pride in order to truly love one another. That's just me though.
It’s not like they don’t have freewill and are incapable of repairing their relationship. That requires both parties to improve though, both need to want change. Real love can still thrive in spite of sin
I loved that part when Satan told Eve about how awful Florence was and then Virgil stopped them from eating the fruit of knowledge, giving Satan second thoughts about his plan
Just made a connection: the crown of flowers Adam made, falling to the ground. The flowers were roses, which began to wilt - and thorns began to appear around plants (including roses). Those roses which fell to the ground could have had their seeds and pollen travel through the ages, eventually being the crown of thorns Jesus would later wear the day he suffers at Calvary.
No lie, I’d listen to Wendi reading the entirety of Paradise Lost. Including the crying bits. He reads the words with such investment and understanding, it could rival any other narrator.
Humanising the devil - there is so much literature that plays on this. The idea that the devil is not just pure disgust and evil, that he has a history. Really hope Wendigoon does more videos on such literature ❤
Don’t worry about shedding tears on camera, I was in tears too by the end of this video. I’m trying to become more Christian and this video moved me deeply. The story of creation is truely beautiful and this video provided me with news views of hope, love and the ultimate sacrifice of Christ which I have never ever considered before.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a Paradise Regained video. The part of the story where Adam dropped Eve’s wreath gave me chills. As a believer this characterization and being able to put understandable, tangible feelings to the moment he saw her in sin is so enthralling. Also, this vid is #3 on trending right now! So happy for your success ❤️
I had never heard the story of Adam and Eve told in this way and the realization of the love between them, being so strong that they sacrificed the garden of Eden for a shared death, broke my heart. I cried as you read Adam’s internal thoughts as he dropped the Garland he made for Eve, and at the words he chose to express his complete surprise at her actions. And how from the moment she ate the forbidden fruit, of course, his fate was sealed as well from the love that filled his heart for her. 💔 I never heard it this way, and never understood it more deeply than I do now. Thank you for making this video!
As an atheist myself its such a strange feeling but also beautiful that for the first time in my life I catch myself saying I want to be like Jesus and I want to love my girl how Adam loved Eve from Eden. Amazing video man really truly beautiful
Paradise Lost is such a brilliant, epic, and haunting story. As much as it as a tale of immense morality in the face of evil, it challenges the very definition of evil. Perhaps, whether Milton wanted to suggest it or not, light can be brought from darkness -- as much as darkness can be brought from light.
Indeed, shadows can only exist opposite to light, and light can only be perceived against dark. It's attributed to Taoism most of the time, but it really is a universal concept
@@bighex5340 All of these concepts are universal. Original sin, The 7 tropes, duality. They can be found all throughout history in every book ever written.
The way Adam reacts to what Eve did. It’s what feels like the moment you lost your love for someone, or at least, love them a little less. It’s really hard to describe unless you’ve been into the situation of being madly in love with someone, platonically or romantically and them doing something that makes you feel so disappointed in them.
The thing I love about Windigoon is his ability to plainly explain books that I would never be able to understand otherwise and I really appreciate him for that. There’s so many books I would love to read, but I simply do not understand and Paradise Lost is one. I can’t understand the writing and what all these words mean, but he is able to break it down and into such simple terms that gives accessibility to people like me and I can’t thank him enough for that. 14:06
Don’t apologize for crying or getting emotional over this masterpiece. This made me weep like a baby while I was doing chores so I think that crying in the middle of chores because of a UA-cam video would be considered more cringe. Loved the video though, masterpiece as always. Keep up the good work, and I can’t wait to not only see what you cover next, but what the next Sunday school video will be!
Wendigoon is out here making me think about and listen to stories so hammered into my brain and so violently assured I thought I could never hear of again as if I was listening to a friend telling me about a book they loved
I’m late to comment but Wendi crying really got me. I wish more Christians and just general people of faith were like you man, humble and devoted to spreading a message of kindness and forgiveness above all else. Your story telling is incredible, and I can hear your passion and faith coming through so clear
It's not cringe to cry Wendi ^^; I'm an atheist, but the poetic description of Adam expressing that his love for Eve is stronger than his own drive for self-preservation or life in paradise made me cry listening to this. I have always experienced romantic love very strongly and that was so relatable and pure and accurate. I couldn't help crying over it.
I can't help but think of the Mark Twain quote, which I'll paraphrase as "But who prays for the Devil? Who in hundreds or thousands of years has had the common humanity and compassion to pray for the one sinner who needed it most?" when hearing how Lucifer considered asking for forgiveness before dismissing the idea. Twain's quote has always struck me as rather profound, but Milton's suggestion that Lucifer doesn't WANT forgiveness, and it's confliction with Twain sort of reminded me that that's just the nature of Satan: he is irredeemable, not because his sins were too great, but because he doesn't WANT to be redeemed. And somehow that's even more profound, thinking that if only seeing Eden and considering asking forgiveness had gone another way, it's a whole other way that humanity would never have been cast from paradise. I grew up Christian but in honesty since growing up and learning more about all sorts of religions I'm not sure what I choose to believe in, but it's still an interesting story and very thought provoking to see how many things had to go wrong for the fall of humanity to happen, and yet it happened all the same, as if it was fate.
so you read Twain's quote and that influenced you, then you read Milton's quote, and that influenced you in the other direction? Sounds like you're just easily swayed and can't actually make up your mind, more than you realizing "the true nature" of satan
It is what differentiates us from the angels. We both are capable of free will, however, they exist in black and white and we exist in a grey area. They KNOW the difference between right and wrong no matter how slight or subtle. Man can be LEAD into or become victims of temptation, however, for an angel to sin, it is an intentional act and directly is in opposition to the Lord. It honestly adds an even greater layer because he may actually want redemption, but understands it can never be possible and thus, relents and continues.
@@figarden1 I wonder though, IS redemption and forgiveness for a fallen angel - or anyone else who chose to commit a sin - truly impossible? Who is to say that if Lucifer *did* go to God and ask for forgiveness for what he's done, that in his infinite compassion God wouldn't grant him that forgiveness? If, despite the fact that he exists purely in black and white morality, Lucifer did this, I personally find it hard to believe that God wouldn't forgive him - he's supposed to be the epitome of all things good, with wisdom and understanding beyond mortal comprehension. For humans, we need only admit our sins, try to move on from them and improve, and let him into our lives to earn forgiveness. So despite the fact we've never seen a fallen angel actually ask for forgiveness, I would have to believe that God would grant it, if they were genuine in their regret and willingness to return to the light. But then again, I'm not exactly an expert on religion of any kind, and don't know what I personally choose to believe still, so maybe my interpretations and hypotheticals just don't really align with Christianity as a whole. I just think as far as Paradise Lost goes, it's more of a hard-hitting message that Lucifer wants forgiveness, but out of pride or envy or wrath or what have you, refuses to ask for it. Which just reminds me of the Twain quote in my original comment, because who needs prayer more than a sinner who doesn't believe they can be, or are even worthy of being, redeemed?
that idea is a lot older than this. a very early christian, st isaac, prayed for satan and saw him laughing at him in his dreams. you also have people like montaigne musing on it
Seeing how Adams love and just their pure love kinda still lingers even after everything is just so gut wrenching to me. Hearing Eve beg Adam to stay with her and him still reassuring and holding her is just ugh ☹️
Showed my teacher the divine comedy series Wendigoon did and she allowed us to use the Dante's Inferno video and now the Paradise Lost video during our lessons as we covered the two stories. She said she was impressed by the videos and this video in particular was very in line with a paper she did over Paradise Lost while in college and was excited to see someone else, especially a younger person, with the same view points. Thank you for the awesome videos Wendi :]
It's hard to describe the feeling that I get from Paradise Lost, but it's almost like the feeling of watching a really well made prequel. You know all of the characters and where they end up, but the journey to get there with all of the familiar points along the way that are cast in a new light is so satisfying.
Dante's Paradiso and Milton's Paradise Lost as told by wendigoon have been some of the very few pieces of media, much less literature, to make me emotional. Just the way he describes God's love for mankind and the sacrifice of Jesus moves me in a way only true forms of art can.
NGL I get emotional and cry and but too when Wendigoon describes the love of god. When he mentioned god forever tending to the garden and waiting for man's return I had to pause the video and come back later.
For real! I grew up Christian but no longer believe in it, but the way he presents it and talks about it is so good. Like, he talks about what I think Christianity should be about, spreading the love and word of how much God loves humanity. It's emotional for me too!
i like how your one of the only people that makes hearing about christianity and religion enjoyable. I'm more of a spiritualist, but when breaking down these stories and not having the religious aspect be incredibly overbearing, it's very enjoyable to watch and listen to.
because hes not an overbearing judgemental boomer, obligating you to save your life. religion is just a personal relationship with God, and doesnt require people to rush you out of a burning building- you should desire it on your own. its not the threat of damnation, its the reality of living a life without love of a higher power.
@@FutureLaugh that’s why I hate the saying “I’m not trying to scare the hell out of you, I’m trying to scare you out of hell” Ah yes, I would definitely want people to become my friend because they were terrified of being tortured otherwise.
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Gabriel telling satan "you're not that guy" and pulling out character stats to back it up always gets a chuckle out of me
And so, the angel Gabriel did declare unto Satan: “Thou are not him.”
And thus saith the Lord, "Get gud, scrub."
he literally got biblically ratioed
@@Anthintendo And ye, the scroll was opened, and Gabriel spake thus to Satan "L & Foolish One & Trodden Upon & Downcast & Thou Art Fallen & Weighed in the Scales and Found Wanting"
@@joshuagrahamcrackers, now I’m just imagine Satan and Gabriel are VTubers fighting on Twitter
"Man, that cherub is going through it" - Uriel
Uriel: Damn…that kid’s going through the motions.
Wait a minute…
"you see those scales in the sky? i will body you in an instant" - gabriel
That killed me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Awe, poor little buddy.
By far the Finn quotes
The most amazing thing about all this in my opinion is that Milton didn't "write" Paradise Lost; one of the greatest pieces of literature in the English canon: he was blind, so dictated the entire story to his daughters who wrote it down for him. This man had to imagine this entire thing and couldn't keep any notes or references, since he couldn't read what he'd written!
That reminds me of the movie The Book of Eli
impressive.
Credit to his daughters as well
Couldn’t his daughters just read notes back to him
Of course women did the work! What a surprise 🙄
Gabriel actually said “You’re the reason why we can’t have nice things” ☠️
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To me, the most haunting thing from Paradise Lost that still disturbs me to this day is the imagery of Sin. Something I was hoping you’d bring up in your analysis of her character is that she is constantly giving birth to these canine monsters who, themselves, copulate with her to produce more and more of themselves in an eternally incestuous cycle. When I first read this, I felt it was meant to represent that the mind often falls in love with its own creations, “ideas”, and unless these ideas are presented to the wider world for scrutiny and discourse, then the idea will fall in love with itself and often spawn even more ideas solely off from its own imagined merits, but with each subsequent new idea becoming even more flawed and degenerated than the last. It’s a disturbing allegory of how bad ideas that are never brought to the light of day will fester and multiply unto themselves until nothing else can be done about it. What starts as a thought of pure beauty can, over time, degenerate into an overflowing cesspool of madness if you aren’t careful.
That's a horrifying revelation, and even if its in a biblical sense here, I can definitely see this being very familiar to the modern world from... certain political stances to something that hits closer to home for me, being an artist and writer and not taking some time to get feedback for the ideas that I make for my own works.
Ngl as someone who follows a lot of nsfw artists and knows a lot about the medium(obviously not supporting the worst parts of it) I was pretty much desensitized to the concept but this really sheds a new light on it
The fact that he was able to come up with something that represents the idea of sin birthing more deplorable sin is, for lack of a better term, beautiful. There’s nothing I can imagine that could represent this concept better, and that’s a testament to his writing talent.
@@airplanes_aren.t_real bruh
I feel like this describes Twitter pretty well.
What astounds me most about this twelve-volume poem is that Milton, having gone blind fifteen years before Paradise Lost was published, dictated the entire thing to his daughter, which she then wrote down.
Milton evoking such beautiful imagery while blind reminds me of Beethoven composing the Ninth Symphony while completely deaf. Absolutely amazing
Some people think Homer was blind too
@@Laocoon283D’oh!
At the beginning of book three, Milton once again calls to his muse, and even mentions his blindness; how he’ll never again see the beauty of the world, or the divinity of the human face. But he also says that’s okay, because it further allows for the light and inspiration of the Holy Spirit to shine from within him. I thought that was really beautiful when I read it.
@@jamescooley8099that is really beautiful, beliefs aside
@@Laocoon283The prevailing understanding is that there was no Homer, it was rather a collection of authors building a 'genre' known as Homer.
Of course, any understanding of Homer needs to be understood from the concept of Troy. Homer wrote of Troy and was seen as a myth for millenia... until the city was found exactly where Homer wrote about it.
The description of Lucifer being struck by Michael's god given sword is the first experience of pain in the universe is one of the most metal things i've ever heard.
Also loved the video. I sat through the whole thing and greatly enjoyed it
This is what got me into all this so many years ago
@@m1k3_flo gonna create a metal song based on paradise lost A WHOLE ALBUM
metal pipes 😎
God*
Uriel: "Poor Cherub, hope he gets better."
*Some seconds pass*
Uriel: "Hey, WAIT A MINUTE."
lol 😂
Hol(y) up
WAIT A MINUTE, WHO ARE YOU!?
"Look at the chart. *I would body you in an instant.* " is the single greatest characterization of an Angel speaking to Satan I have ever heard.
45:00 for anyone wanting to hear it again XD
When I clicked the link, there was an ad of Goku being Goku . Like literally the timing 😂
@@yoofij4724 HE AINT BEATING GOKU
@@tanner6163 😂😂😂😂😂😂
WHO WOULD WIN??? THE INFINITE POWER OF GOD? OR GOKU? FIND OUT THIS TIME ON DEATH BATTLE!!!
@@justicemcintosh3294 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
knowing the context of the religious conflicts in the 1600s makes these works so interesting because you can see the distinct similarities between the story and what the author was going through in real life
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I wonder if Milton was trying to draw a comparison to the royalists after the civil war. Personally I think Satan's characterization is more comparable to Cromwell.
Most of the book is basically one big mental breakdown related to the reader via increasing angst and I'm here for it.
Really its what makes it such a fundamental piece of western culture. Its not only incredibley well written, but its focus contains deep insights on one of the bigger paradigm shift in western culture
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My favorite parts of this:
- Gabriel calling Satan a wuss
- “Wow, that cherub is…going through it.”
- Adam innocently asking if angels mate and Raphael physically blushing
- Adam seeing what Eve did and realizing that he was going to be lonely again and he’d rather be dead
- Satan’s argument to taking over Heaven basically being “You think God is our Mom?? Do you Remember being born? I don’t remember being born” and it WORKED??
- Mary being the Second Eve that defeats the Serpent on Eve’s behalf
- “Tell me about His great battle” and him getting choked up explaining that the “Battle” was literally just Love
- Satan in paradise carrying Hell with him bc of his Despair and humanity leaving paradise with Hope
- “I’m sorry did the Snake write this???”
Where is the “did the snake write this?” In the video
@@crazybrowexists in his "rant" towards the end when he's talking about how so many ppl think Satan was the good guy/sided with Satan
@@crazybrowexists1:49:39
@madisonperdue4216 these are my favorite parts too 🥰
@@theworldsperson5705 :)
1:00:17 It's so funny how Lucifer and the angels are seriously at war and God just casually turns down their powers like he's a dad supervising his children's fight so they don't destroy the house
I mean, he kinda is.
Satan tried to fly outside of hell and it didnt work, a gust of wind does just so happens to catch and carry him back on track.....
I guess considering the authors love of gods power and foresight it would make sense that god canonically was on top of business the entire time
The original “wait til your father gets home/wakes up from his nap” dad energy
Like a thermostat
It also calls further into question the audacity and insanity of Lucifer’s arrogance that he could fight God. Like, buddy, God casually depowers EVERY angel at once including you and Micheal…what chance do you think you really have here? lmfao
The idea of Gabriel saying he’d body Satan in an instant and then Satan glaring while walking away is so funny to me
Now that you said it is *is* kinda hilarious
Lucifer bodied Gabriel in the story on the battlefield, until he amped himself with gods power
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no who’s side are you on lol.
Satan will always lose that’s something to laugh at. The way he uses people to laugh at you or whatever it may be to knock you down .. just remember where his doom awaits. Lmao
@@OLDIRTYDAVID My own. These are fictional stories lol, although Lucifer being a representative of ambition & self-interest naturally leans me more towards his point of view. Certainly not on Gabriels side, the worm was a glorified errand-boy; like all of the people who bend the knee to the neckbeard in the sky.
It’s refreshing to see an introspective, intellectual, articulate man who’s not afraid of showing emotion. Bravo, sir.
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I almost cried at the part where Adam saw Eve with the fruit and the wreath falls to the ground. But the way it was immediately followed by SO SATAN AND ALL THE OTHER FALLEN ANGELS ARE BUILDING A CHAOS BRIDGE THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS THIS ENTIRE TIME. My sides went into orbit.
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Like a wacky little B plot to the actual Fall of Man
I really hope someone make this a movie. I just love the comedic and serious tone of this story.
"...he's not following her, he's falling to her level."
That hit hard, man
God lied about the apple killing Adam and Eve. Also Ironic how Eve when valuing Adam's words more than Angels and God has caused some problems.
1:30:15 This is hilarious to me. I love the idea of a bunch of demons sitting in Hell just doing their evil demon things and then suddenly they’re like “Aw crap, it’s Snake Week again.”
best comment 😂
Ngl that sounds like me cancelling plans last minute
"uh oh, snake hours" (turns into snake) (starts crying)
Get ready for the Hell Channels "Snake Week" this year hosted by The Rock
Sad serpent hours sad serpent hours
Brother don't you dare apologize for crying! This story is beautiful and made even more so by your telling of it. Crying in UA-cam videos does come off as "cringe" sometimes but it all depends on the context. You put tears in my eyes friend and and I'm not at all ashamed or embarrassed about admitting that. As always...thank you for all that you do. You're the man Mr. Goon!
His emotion made the video even better
@@shaskins15 1000%....always does
Crying is never cringe when it's tears of joy or in reaction to something beautifully touching.
@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 Amen.
@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 The comfort part made me shed tears of joy, I felt happiness when I heard it. It may not be accurate to the texts, but even as a portrail it was beautiful and comforting.
I’m not Christian, in fact I was brought up in a very anti religious household. I’ve always had an interest in religion, but seeing you cry over the loss of purity in humanity really solidified how much religion can mean to people. I thank you for sharing a religious view on things as it’s helped me understand how important it is to those who believe it.
Also the fact you had the strength to (almost) cry on camera without cutting it out takes more strength than hiding it from the public.
It is very hard to not weep at Milton’s poetry, specifically when it deals with so deep and so tragic a story as the Fall of Man. I do not know if you already have, but if you ever have the chance, read Paradise Lost itself. Even when one is not Christian (as I am), it enraptures the soul, and I have seen even Pagans and Atheists moved by it.
Well said 🙏🏻
I’m agnostic, always had a spiritual side of me, but never really dedicated myself to a certain religion, but these Christianity and Biblical stories have been so interesting to me lately, it does make me think.
@@cryingisthenosebleedoftheh790 The first time I saw this I thought it was a picture of me and I thought I was going crazy
Getting biblically ratioed by Gabriel is insane😭
Satan's power level was under 9000
“Love does not exist without the concept of free will. Something cannot be loved if it’s just for subjugation. It has to be a willing desire to follow something else”. Damn Wendi is getting deep with it here.
And wholeheartedly true, in a beautiful way.
There is a universal law, known as the law of freedom, if that law is broken love is destroyed and rebellion arises.
And another universal law is the law of love, if this is broken undeniably death is likely to follow, since love is the action of giving and receiving, such as the way of life as we know nowadays.
This is a simplified explanation of a book based on certain principles found in the bible.
So when I heard it the first time, I couldn't help but to think about these laws, amidst others.
So what about the free will of Mary?
You know the woman god raped?
Where was her free will, her freedom to say no, or her right to tell God to go to hell instead of forcing her to give birth to Jesus?
No matter how deep it sounds we can not forget that God forces his will on others when it suits his need or to make a bet with the devil and ruin a man's life.
So tell me again about this supposed love and free will again done by God.
@@valor1omega if you actually read that section of the Bible you’d know that an angel literally came and visited her to tell her she was gonna bear a child by God in the future and she was all for this, literally celebrating. Second God did not rape her, he doesn’t need to have sex to impregnate someone. He can literally do it at the snap of a finger.
Your just spouting some nonsense you probably got off TikTok.
@@valor1omega I guess she could have refused, but would anyone do that? Imagine, you are Mary all alone in your house, then suddenly an ANGEL appears out of nowhere and tells you that the god you belive in choose YOU to give birth to his son. You can chose the interpretation of the story of course, but to me it wouldn't make much sense to refuse.
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He mentioned gigantic people without mentioning GIANTS
I'm so proud of him.
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@Bora! Giant conspiracy? Tell that to Yao Ming ... pal 😎
Can you explain what the reference is? He's always going GIANTS with this wink wink attitude but I have no idea what he's referencing. What's the joke?
Some say that God dwells in the 13th dimension, I firmly believe the Father/Son/Holy Spirit come from this place
Never kill the part of you that is cringe, kill the part that cringes. Thank you for always being authentic. It means the most💚
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Actually a beautiful quote!
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The idea of Adam sitting there making her a flower crown because she's his queen is so wholesome and adorable af
yea but not even his frist wife sooo
@@Fyre19then who is then if she’s the second person to ever exist and was made from him😂
@@Messup7654 some depictions have Lilith existing before Eve, who was made the same way Adam was, instead of from Adam's rib.
@@shovel1353 depictions from where? Because if it isn't from the Bible who cares? Lots of fan fiction out there(like this very story and vid)
It’s from a different religion it’s not Christianity
If you decided to do an entire read through of the Bible and describe every story in it, I would ABSOLUTELY watch it. Just this video alone made me more interested in these religious stories and I want to know more about it!!
I’ve never really considered myself a Christian-I grew up pretty disconnected from religion itself, but your passion and emotion directed towards this story was amazing to watch/listen to. Thanks for this man, I can’t wait for the next one
T H I S
Make him become the Sunday school dad he is.
Yeah I second this!!!! Please!!!!
“I wouldn’t preach it like the Bible” well then preach from the Bible!!!
I hope he sees this
There's an audiobook of Paradise Lost that has an ensemble cast, with Ian McDiarmid as Lucifer...so you literally hear Emperor Palpatine plotting against God and it's amazing
@Jacqueline Davis first search result under Paradise Lost Ian McDiarmid, channel hosting it is Bent Outta Shape Chess.
@Jacqueline Davis ua-cam.com/video/GINzUBvQ5nw/v-deo.html
@@nogoaway7540 thank you for that 😊
(Eve's about to take a bite of the forbidden fruit)
Satan: "Dew it"
Satan to Adam and Eve : *DO IT*
It’s always a good day when a Wendigoon video is more than an hour long!!
↖️I should do something with my own F.E.A.R😱😰😰😰.....
I just wish we could squeeze more blood from the stone. Spends alot of time in the mines already I imagine.
@Kurtis damn you
Gee there sure are a lot of fucking bots in this comment section!
Get your shit together, Isaiah!
@YeaMan then why haven't I heard of you..
satan: “yeah i just stumbled into the garden, nothin’ to it 😎”
gabriel: “skill issue 🙄”
This is honestly one of your best videos
Nice
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@@suchislife801 he’s a Sunday school teacher, I’m sure he knows more Biblically than you- so what if he pronounced Satan differently than you do? It’s not like he’s uneducated on the topic.
@@brattygoblin125 Lol, right? Are people not allowed to have different accents and pronounciations?
Silly-Billy! Every Wendigoon video is S tier!
The fact that Eve considered suicide is such a heartbreaking thought, I can't help but pity her and Adam
Don't worry. They're in heaven now at least.
@@Аландейлен How do we know that?
@@Аландейлен what makes you think there in heaven
How can you not when god knew it would all happen
You and I are just like them seeing as we are their descendants we are even worse
When you said that Satan jumped the gate to Eden I imagined him scrambling over a chain link fence.
An even funnier image is him jumping the fence like Liam Neeson did in Taken 3.
Adam dropping the crown and saying his monologue, almost made me cry. So tragic.
Your description of Adam's love for Eve and the beauty of her existence moved me too. Something about the idea of their love for eachother surviving the fall from grace reminds me of how powerful and amazing love is.
That sounds so alien it makes no sense.
No no it does, you just dont get it.
@@RSainman on which point please elaborate?
@@burningbronze7555 what? i think he recounted it in a pretty easy-to-understand fashion lmao. love endured even before they were taken up to the mountain, which was the whole point of man in the first place.
@@beaniefaust4144 if humanity was made to love then we are really shit at it.
As someone who is a Christian but has experienced a lot of religious trauma, I think your reaction to Christ's sacrifice is so refreshing, definitely not cringe. Christianity has been used as a manipulation tactic so much throughout my life, and seeing someone have such a pure love and appreciation for Christ is so beautiful and very healing❤
Sorry that you’ve experienced that, hopefully it’s gotten better and/or will get better
Thank you, and thankfully it has gotten better. Recently I've come to have a relationship with God again and work through the trauma. It's still difficult to talk ab religion with others or go to church, but I'm happy to be at peace with God now.
That sounds very familiar to a character I’ve seen in a game before. That isn’t important right now. Hopefully you’re healing and doing well right now.
@@niveth1 what game are you talking about, if you don’t mind me asking ?
@@christopherlowery3797 the game of Life
Damn... was anyone else moved to tears watching him read the poem of Adam resigning himself to his fate with eve??? So much emotion in wendigoon, reading that!!! Broke my heart!
double yes
Hit me out of nowhere. I have tried to read paradise lost before and found it obtuse and boring. But his reading of it made it clear how beautiful the poetry was and how heartrending the story could be. I was genuinely moved.
Anytime I stop to think about the debt of sin being lifted from us, paid in blood by the son of God, I am compelled to weep. Tears blurry my vision as I type this. The warmth and light of God's love is a feeling like no other.
it hit me hard
I thought I was crazy because I'm just here in my room crying trying not to make a noise
1:06:00
Adam and Eve’s pure love and devotion literally brings me to a sobbing nostalgia for something I have no memory of ever having.
I know exactly what you mean . There are very few stories that make me feel some sort of melancholy nostalgia, almost like from a past life.. I think blood meridian also gave me that feeling also.. I'm apache myself , and grew up with stories told by my grand father, with very eerily similar tragedies as blood meridian.. the way it describes them , makes me picture everything like I was there , and witnessed the worst of it while being helpless.. very strange feeling.
@@apachejano1872 yeah it’s very interesting just how much stories can make us feel.
We don’t have to experience them physically to feel it all happen.
The way that you present Christian theology and stories is so palatable, between this, Dantes work and the Sunday schools you're allowing me an unblemished insight into the actual lessons trying to be taught through the bible, I am learning a lot and I am grateful for this, thank you
wonderfully said! agree :]
@@malry thank you :)
What lessons have you learned so far?
You don't have to explain but I also think you can gain insights through stories like this as I have through other works especially the 48 laws of power and the stories they use to explain them.
Still doesn’t change the fact it’s all made up horse shit. You don’t need to hear stories from a fairy tale to learn life lessons.
If you need anything related to Christian theology i highly encourage looking in to the church fathers and their teachings first, and then watching videos on youtube talking about faith.
Man, you're the only one who can sell me biblical stories in a way that has me genuinely invested and wanting to hear more. No preaching, no judgment, just your passion for the story and how it affects you personally, as you approach it from all these philosophical perspectives, and it's just so genuine that I can't help but be on board. I left organized religion years ago (I was raised catholic) and at this point I'm just kind of a spiritual whateverist based on whatever feels meaningful to me, but revisiting the biblical stories with you is almost kind of nostalgic. Reminds me of my grandma, who's really into angels (yet not so much into christianity as a whole, it's mostly... angels laced with new age spiritualism). Angels and demons and the genesis/exodus story have always been my favorite parts of the christian religion when I was a kid, so it's nice to revisit it from a different perspective.
I think you put it so beautifully
@Tala K Prayers for ya sister. You are not alone. Mine is as well on the fence shall we say. He believes, but isn't as devout as one could be...shall we say.
@Tala K I mean wendigoon Is southern Baptist lol, obviously those denominations have serious problems, but painting a broad brush over a whole group is never really that great
@Nexus, it's good to hear you enjoyed it, and I'm sorry to hear that (based on how you wrote your comment), that you've had bad experiences with Christians.
I won't tell you how to feel, or what to think. I was an Atheist for most of my life, so it would be hypocritical to try and twist your arm into feeling a certain way.
I just hope that you know that there are good Christians out there, and that the actions of some don't negate the words of scripture itself. People fail, but human failure doesn't change the truth.
I hope that at some point you can gain more passion, rather than be a "whateverist".
@@funnelingspace9268 Agreed lol. But you can say “Fuck the S. Baptist church, their whole org is insane and corrupt” while also saying “…but lots of Baptists are good people and aren’t necessarily all-in on the party line.”
i'm not a least bit religious and wasn't born in a christian household either but tell me why this absolutely beautifully complex story has me in tears. stories about satan's fall has always intrigued me. paradise lost explores his characterisations so ...humanely? i love this so much!!
Read the Bible.
You should probably keep in mind this was written from the perspective of Satan, who might not be one of the most reliable of narrators given his track record.
@@DirChicken101why? You dont have to follow the religion to read the most sold and distributed book of all time which actually has some great stories
@@balthasargelt4098 yeah, but with the context and their punctuation it kinda reads as one of those random unasked for "you. idc what opinions and thoughts you have, believe in my religion NOW." types of comments
If you like the stories so much then I suggest you read many of the stories of The Bible. This story is rooted in Christian themes and ideology . The thing that converted me was how true and relatable the lessons of the Bible were. How much they resonate with human desires, conflicts and experiences is crazy.
"Huh the palace is called 'all demons', wonder what we'll find there?"
Surplus US cheese
Demons, but on Friday, lots of snakes.
Seeing this man get worked up at the end talking about Jesus really shows the depth of his character. This is the same man that describes to us unimaginable horrors. I love this channel.
The Devil: "Do I have free will? Can I just choose to not be completely awful anymore?"
...
Also the Devil: "Nah nonono, I'm just like this. It's God who's at fault."
I've legitimately wondered, the devil definitely wouldn't be like this, but are demons just simply not conscious and do they only act on instinct? It would make sense to me, but I don't remember anything specifically about that from biblical writing, but I would have just missed it, it would be there. Either way, I'm gonna go back and look
@@metalstrophe6471 most biblical demons have been shown to have complete free will and their own desires and intentions. Way more complex than instinct as the syn of man is not instinctual in nature.
@@Hjea that makes sense really
I think its great, reminds me of real people blaming others for being awful
Angels do not have free will, humans do. Satan was always to rebel. Which begs the question, why would he be punished?
"But god said that if I eat it, I'll die"
"Nuh uh" said the snake
The snake tried to get her with the Apple. Thankfully, Eve was an Android woman.
She also votes Trump.
The snake got grilled on the barbecue.
Don’t step on snek 🐍
"Nah, it'll be fine."
The snake being Eve
@@ThatMagaLifeWhat I find interesting about the story of Adam and Eve is how she was the one to be fooled by a nefarious influence.
This reminds me of how the majority of advertising is directed towards women because historically they have been more easily manipulated. Women in the US maintain the majority of all credit card debt.
@@ThatMagaLifeTell me you're a part of Hustler's University without telling me.
You getting so emotional over this is so precious 😅 reminds me of listening to my mom about these stories as a kid
The way you characterized and narrated and interpreted how Adam loved Eve so much that he chose certain doom just not to lose her made me tear up. Im agnostic (born catholic) but these interpretations of yours are all very moving. It made me tear up. The same way I teared up when you described how Dante loved Beatrice after he gets to her in Dante's Inferno and how Beatrice prayed for a man and how Dante was that man. Great video as always
I’m sorry but born Catholic is quite a hilarious way to put it, like it seems you’re biologically Catholic or something. But then I’m born Christian but am still trying to find my own believes, but this is indeed a very touching description of what I considered as just a tale.
I mean he's just describing what was written. And it is very wholesome.
@@nen4965 I mean, people say they're born Jewish and say that it's just a religion and then say it's a nationality and not a religion. Do what you must with the idea of being born Christian, or even better born again.
@@nen4965 we don't have much choice about being baptized or not, so "born catholic" isn't too far off anyway.
Oh right forgot ppl would get forced to be baptised… But then again if you don’t believe in it wouldn’t that be inconsequential?
Even as a non religious person I absolutely love these breakdowns and seeing how much this means to you makes it even better. I really do enjoy learning about these things and since I'm generally too busy to read them myself this is the next best thing.
Same, I really love these videos and find them very interesting, despite being non religious
same, and I’ve found the diction in old texts hard to comprehend, so to hear everything in an entertaining manner in layman’s terms is a breath of fresh air and a beautiful whole new depiction of the universe to enjoy~
Why do you guys constantly have to tell everyone you're not religious? We don't care lol. "Oh btw my soul is damned to everlasting torment, but I really liked the video!"
@@Logan_93 Oh you've got to love the whole "I know you're a good person even to our religious standards, but you don't believe so suffer" situation.
@@Logan_93 you do realise when you say shit like that you do nothing but make people stray further from religion right?
"That cherub is really going through it man.....wait a minute cherubs don't cry"
- Uriel
"devils may, though." ✍✍🔥🔥
@@namesurname8474that's hotter than the pits of hell
@@namesurname8474 I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
I immagine him just seeing the cherub cry, instantly thinking:"damn, he is going through a lot......". 20 sec of him just staring at a cherub worried and then:"wait a minute, cherubs don't cry.........oooooooohhhhhhhh fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk, I gonna go get Gabriel"
That gave me a laugh reminds me when I used to smoke pot and laugh about things
Great retelling. Just finished the story, and I too cry at the Adam and Eve love scenes because they’re so pure
I like to imagine Uriel just calmly standing in the garden and seeing off to one side is a frantic, very sad and distressed baby cherub just pissing and shitting in the corner and Uriel thinking "huh, that's weird"
Edit: My first comment to hit 1k likes!
"Wonder if I should say something?"
You're the only one who mentioned shitting and pissing, just to be clear. Lmao
@@pegleg2959 Ik, I just can't help but laugh harder with that bit added tho
@@NAME-yg8sl "You good bro?"
"Huh, that uhhh... that cherub is really going through the motions isn't he?"
As a fellow Christian, I deeply appreciated the love and care you put into explaining this poem to us. I, too, was moved to tears several times. As an English teacher, I also appreciate a poem that has a reputation for being boring getting some of the recognition it deserves.
So you actually believe in Adam and Eve ?
This is such a beautiful story. The part where Eve was considering suicide and specifically Adam's response broke me. I also cried with you when Michael was describing Jesus' coming. Videos like these are my favourite of yours. They not only educate but help me reflect on my own life and beliefs. Thank you for sharing them.
The imagery and words chosen are immaculate, not only from John Milton, but from you explaining his work. The only problem with this is that it is hard to not take it as fact because of how much sense it makes. Especially with the imagery spoken of Adams Love for Eve.
The fact that people can read this as making Satan the good guy really speaks to Milton's writing of the character. Here he isn't a caricature of evil and depravity, but a prideful, charismatic leader who could make a valid enough argument to convince legions to follow him in his personal and private pursuit of power and glory. When people read this and say "he kinda has a point" that is EXACTLY the point! Because people don't simply bow down before someone to make them king because they say so, they make someone king who promises all riches and reward in return, who preys on their own pride and beliefs and says "I can give you what you are being deprived of". It's masterful
this needs to be seen more
his valid arguments are based off lies?
@@Jonap2001 his argument appealed to the pride in those angels that sides with him. But I don't think he necessarily lied, he said to those angels "let us go to war against God and I will treat you all better than he ever did". Something to that effect. It may have been untrue, but a lie must be not believed by the person speaking, and I think Satan truly believed he stood a chance, blinded by his ego and wrath. No doubt though he would have said anything he thought would turn the most angels to his cause, so he very well may have lied, but to his audience, the angels of whom he wanted loyalty, he had to make a very convincing argument so that they would see his as a just cause and rebel against their Lord God. When I say his argument must have been valid, I don't mean it was righteous by any means, but effective at convincing those angels to side with him. He no doubt played on their own pride and jealousy, but his argument was effective.
@@noahfenech3369 He literally did lie to them, if you reread or listen to the story, Satan lied to them saying they weren’t created by God and was equal to him if they had attempted a coup. It appealed to them because he deceived them. There’s a reason why he’s considered to be The deceiver. it’s not a valid argument at all if it isn’t based on the truth
@@noahfenech3369 I suppose I just personally disagree with it being valid since he used lies, but in a way it is well written enough for you to see how the angels were convinced using his arguments
the fact that Wendigoon cries and even has enough self awareness to say "its all real... to me" is something that i find amazing, i spent many years in the church fell out of it and am realizing i am a believer and i think Wendigoon and his honesty and not hiding from his beliefs have brought me back around to understanding God is real and i love hearing these explanations on things as wella s all the other stories and takes on events and things like the backrooms so blessed i found this man the fact he doesnt push it on anyone is also amazing
Welcome back!!!
Made me cry too, just this beauty of acknowledging our Lor
Lord
Lord bless you and keep you, may his face shine upon you, and be gracious to you. He loves you 100% and he was thinking of you on the cross. God bless you!
Welcome back home my friend!!! God kept the light on for you! May His love always shine from within your soul and light your path through this life!
I'd totally watch wendigoon do a rundown of the entire Bible. I've watched this video 3 times already just cause it's so enjoyable and he makes religion actually kinda interesting. My parents are Jehovahs witnesses and I wasn't very into learning about religion when I was younger but after watching this and the divine comedy videos I want to learn more.
You should watch the Weird Bible podcast he does on the Lore Lodge.
He makes religion seem like a cool comic book
you should stay with Jehovah, and not learn from youtube.... turn to your bible
@@Gabowabo1 That's all its good for.
@@Kryptix it comes from subconscious symbols and religious experience lol. They're not just stories
Sin and death building a bridge to hell…
probably a wide bridge…
probably wide enough to be a highway…
A highway to hell!
Hell yeah, brother!
Imagine if hell is just a massive traffic jam of sinners yelling at each other trying to get in
@@dracoyosh a worse fate than anything described in dantes inferno
@@DG-ru6nc lol oh it’s worse fates
I’ve fell off with religion a lot in the last 10 years of my life. This video feels like it did when I was 5 learning about god for the first time. It’s such a beautiful story, truly. Thank you for bringing this feeling back to me, Wendi. You’re a gem ❤️
Bro I low key know what you mean. Like in a Fr type of level I know what you mean.
Same, especially with his divine comedy series. Truly mind blowing how well done these videos are!
@@frightfactoryYT Wow. When I was a child I loved goin to church. It was the only place I had friends that weren't jerks. Most ppl are competitive and narcissistic and I felt better around ppl that didn't treat ppl like that...plus church gave us dinner and snacks, plus fun stuff and singing for Father. I miss it. Probably the only really true innocent times I can remember were at church no tv, no internet, no reason to try to impress anyone or judge each other. I'm sorry that your experience wasn't with people that made you feel loved like it should have been.
People these days are so cut off from God. We all think that we can find our way to Him without needing to get up early on a Sunday. We all think we're growing closer to Him when we remember to occasionally thank Him for some piece of good fortune, but the fact is we aren't. We're so separated and isolated from God and the world jsut keeps doing everything in its power to keep Him away from us. I felt so drained and devoid of happiness recently and it wasn't until I went back to church that I realized it was because I had grown so far apart from God without even realizing it. We *need* church in our lives. We need a community of believers to hold us accountable and keep us firm when the world wants to push us away from God.
I recommend everyone finding a good church near them and going back. Where else is better to find God than in His house, with His body?
@@NovusIgnis sure, which denomination should I attend? There's Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Catholic, LDS, FLDS, Seventh Day Adventist, and the list goes on. I want to make sure I pick the correct one because they all have different practices, rules, and beliefs. Which one is correct?
"just as satan carries hell , we carry eden " . thats some powerful words right there ive never thought about it like that . gives me hope as well in my faith.
i loved this as well ❤ it gives me so much hope & comfort
Satan doesnt carry hell though your "god" does, that is his domain he is creator of heaven and hell lucifer was just banished there
Satan is not in hell yet. He's also not going to rule hell, he's going to be tormented with all the others as well. Hell is a creation of God. He can only move as God allows him.
Then wilt thou not be loath
To leave this Paradise, but shalt possess
A Paradise within thee, happier far
I love how much respect Eve is given in the story. I heard very ignorant people validate the pain women go through in child birth bc of Eve and that it automatically spits women in this place of shame and disrespect. So much of the story acknowledges the beauty of growing a person inside and constantly points out that Eve was the first “Holy Mother of Man” meaning she deserves respect. It’s just so refreshing to hear Adam speak about his love for his partner and the importance of her in the world. I teared up at some points too.
Yeah, it shocks me to hear how people read Eve’s deception and sin to be a “woman stupid-bad, man wise-good” argument when Milton clearly portrays Eve as something so good and so beautiful. Somehow, people see misogyny in places like Eden. It makes little sense to see it this way.
Adam and eves love in this story is so fucking cool… they went from perfection to disgrace and despite it all, despite pain hatred envy rage fear uncertainty and guilt … chose to love each other … I like to think that ends up being the thing that saves them… their love for each other… and when they finally get into the perfect paradise… nothing about their love changes… because it’s already perfect even if they argue.. even if they tell and disagree… even if they hurt each other.. apologies come afterwards.. because that’s what their love has always been… even in sin their love is perfect
Respect for a rib, no thanks.
@@someneet145eve solos
@@pissgobbler9406 if you mean soloing the destruction of mankind, sure. The world would be better off is she stayed a rib.
Wow, I studied as a monk for 3 years… and this video, your commentary.. was deep and profound. I’m grateful that we can remind each other of the divinity we all have inside us, but can only mean anything if we don’t have the bad to compare and judge it to. A person who never sees ugliness, can never know what is beauty
It is NOT cringe to get emotional! This is a powerful and long-beloved story, and it made me emotional too just hearing you tell it. Your genuine engagement and vulnerability with your audience just shows yet again that you are an excellent storyteller. Thank you for being willing to show your true feelings. It makes your narration all the richer.
The reverence Adam spoke of Eve after she had eaten of the fruit and how no other creation by God would suffice to him; the tonal shift with Windigoon during that moved me. I agree with your assessment, he did it honor
There's no shame in having feelings. It's how you know you're human.
Cringe
@@juicewar3805womp womp
I don’t think he meant it was cringe to cry while reading it I think he meant it was cringe to have it on a UA-cam video shown to millions. Not that I’m making fun of them for it. He clearly felt strongly about it.
I loved how touched he was when talking about the purity of love, Adams’ love for Eve, and Jesus’ sacrifice as the ultimate and last sacrifice of love…such a sweet moment
It creepy to me. Like that one fanboy who was crying over the Star Wars trailer.
Except in this allegory the cult of Star Wars is a bloodied ideology that is responsible for killing and torturing innocents while holding back scientific and cultural progress.
Indeed very good
Yes, it was.
It's a story....lol
@@ConstitutionallyProtectedMedia A story of our creation and nature*.
I love how the story describes the times Satan was caught lacking. He was disguised as a frog. I can only imagine a demon hiding from angels by pretending to be a frog holds the same expression as silent shock of walking in on someone doing something stupid in their bedroom.
I imagine the idea of deceit is new to ol' Satan and frog just happens to be the first thing he thinks of.
sort of like how loki disguised himself as a fish from the aesir after murdering baldur
Pepe the frog, monkaS
'oh, hi mr frog!'
'you're not supposed to be here'
- the angels, probably.
I woke up half way through this video having a weird dream about demons and i was like ohh duhh, but finished it and man i got to give it to you wendy you are quite the story teller it really got to me, Im going to read this book. For real thanks bro you inspire me a bit to want to be a better Christian. God bless you man!
you're the only UA-camr to get me to cry with them when talking about biblical stories, its definitely not cringe because you are always authentic!
I agree! It's not only authentic but it's understandable, he's reading such an emotional story
I took a whole English class in college about just this book. It's that dense in meaning, every line deserves its own analysis. Truly one of the greatest works ever composed in the English language.
I’m not even a Christian, but I really want to make an accurate, high-budget movie that shows this story start to finish.
They tried to with Bradley Cooper being cast as Lucifer, but that production eventually turned into Gods of Egypt.
There is a second production that's supposed to be in the works right now that's crazy immersive and really let's you lose yourself in it. I'm actually in it, and I can tell you, it's kinda boring for most of it, but the highest points are pretty good and the low points are moving. I just wonder if this is a video game, or a movie.
A movie couldn’t even do it justice
@@letoddfrank and that was an abysmal movie.
Not religious, but would totally watch that movie.
Man, this got me. I've been struggling lately with not feeling like I'm enough and not worthy of God's love because the mistakes I've made. but the part where Michael is describing how Jesus will come down and experience all this pain and hurt to bridge the gap to where sin wont matter and we have a chance to be with Him again and just the love with Adam and Eve. makes me think maybe I'm being a lil too hard on myself. great video, Greater God.
Gabriel pulling out the biblical equivalent of a scouter and comparing satan’s power level to his had me laughing so hard
“Consider yourself beef jerky, while I’m filet mignon” -Gabriel to Satan probably
but i love beef jerky
Lol narratively I hate it but it’s funny
"With the power of God, I will body you" -Gabriel probably
"By the might of God, you are tiny stupid baby man"
- Gabriel, definitely
The change from Adam willing to die for Eve because of his love for her to Eve begging him not to leave her after the fall is truly heart breaking.
Even though Adam and Eve were fundamentally altered and doomed to die through sin, their love and devotion for each other never left
It's also the fact that Adam started constantly blaming her since then broke me even more. I think it were those moments that made Eve realize just how big of a mistake she made, since Adam's right - He bared her sin with her just because of her own selfish idea to have Adam all by herself instead of letting him have another Eve (and I'm not saying this as a bad thing, after all Adam was being selfish too by disregarding the consequences just to be with Eve) and now he has to suffer for her sake too. That amount of guilt is probably what made Eve break down first.
I would have left
@@SD-mi2vcand that's why you weren't cast for the role 😉 I joke, I kid
As a 31 year old guy ,it goes without saying that ive struggled with faith my entire life. So when I say this , understand that im being genuine. Listening to your channel as well as the lore lodge , has genuinely given me faith in a God that cares . Thank you for that . Your casually accessible discussion of Scripture is refreshing ,and more importantly, it feels genuine. Wendigoon, I owe you one.
I'm glad to hear it! :)
If you haven't heard of it already, maybe you'd be interested in BibleProject? They have short videos that explain entire books of the Bible in a more accessible way. Not mention they provide much of that ancient context you wouldn't have in the modern world. You should check it out.
Love is all encompassing, sadly the Bible was manipulated by many bigots in ancient times and written to spread propaganda of a conquering nacional. Christ is the one answer to hate
Bro this story legit almost made me go back because of just how amazing being with God sounds in the story
@@erickromero8587 i was raised catholic in an abusive household, so needless to say i felt abandoned by God, the way he describes this story makes me want this level of faith, so i will be going to church this Sunday
Does it go without saying? Seems like you just have been looney your whole life😂
I've tried to read Paradise Lost a couple of times, but I guess I'm too dense for it, because I just can't grasp it. However, I am deeply fascinated by the story, so thank you for taking the time to tell it in such a fun and engaging way. You have a new subscriber right here. ❤
It's the writing style. It almost feels like a different language. I feel the same way reading The Odyssey and The Scarlet Letter LOL
That's probably due to the old English.
You're completely right about people misunderstanding this book as just E-boy Satan, and I'm extremely happy you covered it. I bought it a few years ago and just couldn't get into it sadly, so I watched some other UA-camr cover it and they painted the plot so terribly compared to you. It was such a basic run down and pretty much laid out what you said most people interpret the book. They just focus on the whole sympathy for the Devil aspect which isn't there and don't even mention the real meat of the discussions between Adam, Eve, and the Archangel Raphael, the fall of man with Adam's pure undying devotion to Eve, and the intrigue Adam had. I found it so interesting that in the book Raphael said it's okay to ask questions and be inquisitive. I went to a Catholic school from grades 1-11 and it always seemed like if you asked questions, you were questioning God's plan and activity going against him, and it's like no, just curious.
Great video like all your others, but I think this one is just a bit better. Maybe it's that personal touch you have with Christianity.
I remember growing up having the same problem when I would ask questions that I just genuinely wondered in my young mind, my parents or pastors or other church members would often say something along the lines of “because that’s God’s plan” or “you may understand when you are older” or just basically giving me the run around kind of implying that these questions I ask are unnecessary and to let it go. I have question everything tattooed on me and I am no longer Christian or religious for that matter and one of the many reasons for me losing faith was that sort of thing. Being made to feel like I was doing something wrong or “challenging God” for simply questioning things
@@cinnamoncigarettes I don't think it's wrong to question things especially if you're following along and believe too. Why not fully understand what you're doing?
Wait so you couldn't get into it and you watched other youtubers to read paradise lost? So How did you fully understood the meaning of the book if you didn't fully read the book yourself.
It's a slight contradiction. I bet you made this to only praise wendigoon for his reading it which is fine but did you really need to make it very asinine?
Yeah... it *is* pretty funny to see the vastly different interpretations of the story between Christian & more secular readers. Like, can a Christian reader understand Satan's declaration of the god character's tyranny? Or are they just too primed to presuppose the justifications of heaven's righteousness.
@@happymate8943 hey, if you’re going to get on your high horse, could you, at the very least, check your comment for grammatical errors? That was just painful to read.
It felt like Adam's lamentations to the tragedy of discovering Eve had partaken of the Forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, the consequences of that action that ultimately made him rescind himself to Death, is like a wedding vow of pure unyielding love to his other half. Whole in life. Whole in death. It's like the concept of marriage had emerged for the first time. And it's tragically beautiful.
Bone of my bone. Flesh of my flesh. Sin of my sin
I like adams backstory in record of ragnarock for the same reason. He’s just an absolute man. Loves his wife, loves his kids, loves gods creation. Simple as.
I cried listening to it. Pure love dude. It is tragic, but so goddamn beautiful.
@@carolinescmprn9196 the sad thing is he wasn't rewarded for that sacrifice. it bought him strife with eve that we inherited
It's well done but amazing how so many rely on what was told them instead of what is written. Eve did not convince Adam. Adam was right there as she bit into the fruit and handed it to him. Read again.
1:23:05 the saddest thing is that nobody realizes this is the first time love was wasted on arguing. The time they spend now arguing instead of loving each other is limited because she ate the fruit. Before it was eternal and now everything, even love has to come to an end. Truly a paradise lost
Nobody would suggest that love has come to an end because of this.
I reckon the real takeaway is that we have to swallow our pride in order to truly love one another.
That's just me though.
It’s not like they don’t have freewill and are incapable of repairing their relationship. That requires both parties to improve though, both need to want change. Real love can still thrive in spite of sin
@@strxwbxrry_420ideally, yeah. But that’s not how it usually works…
Women will always ruin good things for man, just the nature of the snake.
@@adamlee2550try telling that to an all female podcast…😬
"it dosent say they used swords or anything like that"
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"SO HE PULLS OUT A SWORD---"
I loved that part when Satan told Eve about how awful Florence was and then Virgil stopped them from eating the fruit of knowledge, giving Satan second thoughts about his plan
You made me breathe out realy hard
Virgil the goat🔥
he’s on a mission 💪💪
hows florence?!!!??!?
If Paradise Lost was written by Dante.
Just made a connection: the crown of flowers Adam made, falling to the ground. The flowers were roses, which began to wilt - and thorns began to appear around plants (including roses). Those roses which fell to the ground could have had their seeds and pollen travel through the ages, eventually being the crown of thorns Jesus would later wear the day he suffers at Calvary.
That's a good observation! A bittersweet connection. 💓
Woah
good pointed
Dude, sick
No lie, I’d listen to Wendi reading the entirety of Paradise Lost. Including the crying bits. He reads the words with such investment and understanding, it could rival any other narrator.
Absolutely
Yesss
Agree. It would be wonderful.
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Humanising the devil - there is so much literature that plays on this. The idea that the devil is not just pure disgust and evil, that he has a history. Really hope Wendigoon does more videos on such literature ❤
Don’t worry about shedding tears on camera, I was in tears too by the end of this video. I’m trying to become more Christian and this video moved me deeply. The story of creation is truely beautiful and this video provided me with news views of hope, love and the ultimate sacrifice of Christ which I have never ever considered before.
Amen
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a Paradise Regained video. The part of the story where Adam dropped Eve’s wreath gave me chills. As a believer this characterization and being able to put understandable, tangible feelings to the moment he saw her in sin is so enthralling. Also, this vid is #3 on trending right now! So happy for your success ❤️
OMg GiRL SiNnEd
I had never heard the story of Adam and Eve told in this way and the realization of the love between them, being so strong that they sacrificed the garden of Eden for a shared death, broke my heart. I cried as you read Adam’s internal thoughts as he dropped the Garland he made for Eve, and at the words he chose to express his complete surprise at her actions. And how from the moment she ate the forbidden fruit, of course, his fate was sealed as well from the love that filled his heart for her. 💔
I never heard it this way, and never understood it more deeply than I do now. Thank you for making this video!
It wasn't an actual fruit. It was SEX.
@@Mr196710 It's speculations
@@ricknroll963 Yuh think?
As an atheist myself its such a strange feeling but also beautiful that for the first time in my life I catch myself saying I want to be like Jesus and I want to love my girl how Adam loved Eve from Eden. Amazing video man really truly beautiful
The fact that I can’t sit an hour in church but can sit for HOURS watching Wendigoon talk about Christ is astounding.
Wendi speak from the heart, not from the book
I'm not a believer at all, but this man is wonderful at telling stories in what he believes
Also this story is Bible fan fiction, it's 100% apocryphal and has 0 basis in actual faith. Many people just enjoy it as excellent fiction alone.
this truly..
BRO FOR REAL!
If I recall correctly, Wendigoon is also a part-time pastor at his local church. Don't quote me though.
Paradise Lost is such a brilliant, epic, and haunting story. As much as it as a tale of immense morality in the face of evil, it challenges the very definition of evil. Perhaps, whether Milton wanted to suggest it or not, light can be brought from darkness -- as much as darkness can be brought from light.
Fo' true
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Indeed, shadows can only exist opposite to light, and light can only be perceived against dark. It's attributed to Taoism most of the time, but it really is a universal concept
Cast from the light.
@@bighex5340 All of these concepts are universal. Original sin, The 7 tropes, duality. They can be found all throughout history in every book ever written.
The way Adam reacts to what Eve did. It’s what feels like the moment you lost your love for someone, or at least, love them a little less. It’s really hard to describe unless you’ve been into the situation of being madly in love with someone, platonically or romantically and them doing something that makes you feel so disappointed in them.
The thing I love about Windigoon is his ability to plainly explain books that I would never be able to understand otherwise and I really appreciate him for that. There’s so many books I would love to read, but I simply do not understand and Paradise Lost is one. I can’t understand the writing and what all these words mean, but he is able to break it down and into such simple terms that gives accessibility to people like me and I can’t thank him enough for that. 14:06
Don’t apologize for crying or getting emotional over this masterpiece. This made me weep like a baby while I was doing chores so I think that crying in the middle of chores because of a UA-cam video would be considered more cringe. Loved the video though, masterpiece as always. Keep up the good work, and I can’t wait to not only see what you cover next, but what the next Sunday school video will be!
Me too,
Where is Sunday school videos
Wendigoon is out here making me think about and listen to stories so hammered into my brain and so violently assured I thought I could never hear of again as if I was listening to a friend telling me about a book they loved
I’m late to comment but Wendi crying really got me. I wish more Christians and just general people of faith were like you man, humble and devoted to spreading a message of kindness and forgiveness above all else. Your story telling is incredible, and I can hear your passion and faith coming through so clear
They are, you're just a bigot.
99% of modern Christians who practice their faith are like this dude.
@@FretsMaster222 unfortunately that hasnt been my experience :(
@@FretsMaster222 you ever met/been surrounded by a Baptist community?
The whole point of Christianity is kindness, forgiveness, and faith.
It's not cringe to cry Wendi ^^; I'm an atheist, but the poetic description of Adam expressing that his love for Eve is stronger than his own drive for self-preservation or life in paradise made me cry listening to this.
I have always experienced romantic love very strongly and that was so relatable and pure and accurate. I couldn't help crying over it.
Why are you an atheist?
I can't help but think of the Mark Twain quote, which I'll paraphrase as "But who prays for the Devil? Who in hundreds or thousands of years has had the common humanity and compassion to pray for the one sinner who needed it most?" when hearing how Lucifer considered asking for forgiveness before dismissing the idea. Twain's quote has always struck me as rather profound, but Milton's suggestion that Lucifer doesn't WANT forgiveness, and it's confliction with Twain sort of reminded me that that's just the nature of Satan: he is irredeemable, not because his sins were too great, but because he doesn't WANT to be redeemed. And somehow that's even more profound, thinking that if only seeing Eden and considering asking forgiveness had gone another way, it's a whole other way that humanity would never have been cast from paradise. I grew up Christian but in honesty since growing up and learning more about all sorts of religions I'm not sure what I choose to believe in, but it's still an interesting story and very thought provoking to see how many things had to go wrong for the fall of humanity to happen, and yet it happened all the same, as if it was fate.
Not fate but free will. At any point any of them could have changed course and prevented the fall of man .
so you read Twain's quote and that influenced you, then you read Milton's quote, and that influenced you in the other direction? Sounds like you're just easily swayed and can't actually make up your mind, more than you realizing "the true nature" of satan
It is what differentiates us from the angels. We both are capable of free will, however, they exist in black and white and we exist in a grey area. They KNOW the difference between right and wrong no matter how slight or subtle. Man can be LEAD into or become victims of temptation, however, for an angel to sin, it is an intentional act and directly is in opposition to the Lord. It honestly adds an even greater layer because he may actually want redemption, but understands it can never be possible and thus, relents and continues.
@@figarden1 I wonder though, IS redemption and forgiveness for a fallen angel - or anyone else who chose to commit a sin - truly impossible? Who is to say that if Lucifer *did* go to God and ask for forgiveness for what he's done, that in his infinite compassion God wouldn't grant him that forgiveness? If, despite the fact that he exists purely in black and white morality, Lucifer did this, I personally find it hard to believe that God wouldn't forgive him - he's supposed to be the epitome of all things good, with wisdom and understanding beyond mortal comprehension. For humans, we need only admit our sins, try to move on from them and improve, and let him into our lives to earn forgiveness. So despite the fact we've never seen a fallen angel actually ask for forgiveness, I would have to believe that God would grant it, if they were genuine in their regret and willingness to return to the light. But then again, I'm not exactly an expert on religion of any kind, and don't know what I personally choose to believe still, so maybe my interpretations and hypotheticals just don't really align with Christianity as a whole. I just think as far as Paradise Lost goes, it's more of a hard-hitting message that Lucifer wants forgiveness, but out of pride or envy or wrath or what have you, refuses to ask for it. Which just reminds me of the Twain quote in my original comment, because who needs prayer more than a sinner who doesn't believe they can be, or are even worthy of being, redeemed?
that idea is a lot older than this. a very early christian, st isaac, prayed for satan and saw him laughing at him in his dreams. you also have people like montaigne musing on it
Seeing how Adams love and just their pure love kinda still lingers even after everything is just so gut wrenching to me. Hearing Eve beg Adam to stay with her and him still reassuring and holding her is just ugh ☹️
Showed my teacher the divine comedy series Wendigoon did and she allowed us to use the Dante's Inferno video and now the Paradise Lost video during our lessons as we covered the two stories. She said she was impressed by the videos and this video in particular was very in line with a paper she did over Paradise Lost while in college and was excited to see someone else, especially a younger person, with the same view points. Thank you for the awesome videos Wendi :]
Your videos helped me understand religion more than the Sunday school lessons in my entire life
It's hard to describe the feeling that I get from Paradise Lost, but it's almost like the feeling of watching a really well made prequel. You know all of the characters and where they end up, but the journey to get there with all of the familiar points along the way that are cast in a new light is so satisfying.
Dante's Paradiso and Milton's Paradise Lost as told by wendigoon have been some of the very few pieces of media, much less literature, to make me emotional. Just the way he describes God's love for mankind and the sacrifice of Jesus moves me in a way only true forms of art can.
NGL I get emotional and cry and but too when Wendigoon describes the love of god. When he mentioned god forever tending to the garden and waiting for man's return I had to pause the video and come back later.
@@nevadajuice836 extremely gay
@@nevadajuice836 I’m not even Christian and I’m very moved by it
For real! I grew up Christian but no longer believe in it, but the way he presents it and talks about it is so good. Like, he talks about what I think Christianity should be about, spreading the love and word of how much God loves humanity.
It's emotional for me too!
@@junglejame me exactly, I no longer believe myself but it's art has always been beautiful to me.
i like how your one of the only people that makes hearing about christianity and religion enjoyable. I'm more of a spiritualist, but when breaking down these stories and not having the religious aspect be incredibly overbearing, it's very enjoyable to watch and listen to.
Don't let the behaviors of man separate you from the love of The Most High as it wont be an acceptable excuse on that day. God Bless.
because hes not an overbearing judgemental boomer, obligating you to save your life. religion is just a personal relationship with God, and doesnt require people to rush you out of a burning building- you should desire it on your own. its not the threat of damnation, its the reality of living a life without love of a higher power.
@@sweatt4237 I have all I need. Thank you!
@@FutureLaugh my life is so full of love, thank you!
@@FutureLaugh that’s why I hate the saying “I’m not trying to scare the hell out of you, I’m trying to scare you out of hell” Ah yes, I would definitely want people to become my friend because they were terrified of being tortured otherwise.