Joseph D’Angelo wasn’t the first murderer caught through ancestral DNA matching as you claimed in this episode, it was just the first high profile case that hit the media where the method was involved. I’m aware of at least one cold case killing that was solved in 2017 using the same method a full year prior to solving the identity of the Golden State Killer
My mother often refused to pick me up from practice. She would tell me to walk home. That was dangerous in more ways than one. She was aware I had already had an incident of five men trying to get me in the car, when I was twelve. Luckily a friend's mom would send my friend to bring me home. That mom passed away this year. I had a chance to tell her how much she meant to me. Rest in peace Brenda. You were my savior.
It was common for people back in the day to "mind their own business" unfortunately. At least there are some positives from people today being nosy af lol
He was convicted of sexual assault before he killed her. It confirms my argument that such criminals should be in prison for life and they can’t do it again
Exactly and the percentage for pedopjiles of re- offending is like 97% so that should be all it takes to keep these ppl behind bars…or just not breathing air!
The way we would play outside until the street lights went on are lone gone. I'm telling you to keep your children safe and make sure there was no way a predator to get the child
I say that all the time I always hear “when we were kids”, the truth is that when we were kids all of the most well known serial killers were actively adding notches to their belts. It’s always been a scary world, and it’s only getting worse
It’s never been safe for us: even for decades and centuries. Til this day as WOMEN we still have to be careful, I told my mom that it’s from birth til even elderly days. I’m 35 and it’s hard to even walk down the street alone. You never ever know!
I’m convinced that Linda sensed that something bad was going to happen. The fact that she felt so compelled to call her mom and beg for a ride says it all. As a child she probably couldn’t articulate what she was feeling but I believe she felt something unsettling and foreboding. Poor baby😢
I recall back in the late 70s our parents never talk to us about sex or that there was mean people out there we were told to do what an adult asked us to do and we would do it for fear that we were going to be in trouble with our parents or get a whooping by the adult because our parents would give permission to the teachers 2 slap our hands with rulers and paddles for our behinds.. it's so sad that this little girl had to die this man got to live the rest of his life free raised his kids they had kids he saw his grandchildren and we may never know how many other victims there may have been in other states
@dynamicpisces There's every possibility that he had been stalking her on previous days, and that was why she was so afraid, and insistent on her Mom coming to get her.
Unfortunately these predators dont get put in prison for life without parole at the first incident. They get out of prison and ruin other childrens lives. Please protect the children by giving life without parole sentences. These predators never stop their sick behavior. Please protect the children.
@@thomasvalentine4636 I don't think this is about Christianity. There are non-Christian countries that have more lenient punishments if the crimes are comitted against certain categories of people, such as girls and women.
@@jennylopez8021 If you really watched the video you would have seen that they did everything they could as 11 year olds to help find her. Certainly don’t blame them as children because you think they didn’t do enough. We should all be so lucky to have friends like that!
How can someone hear a girl screaming " you're hurting me " and not call police...how can she sleep in peace that night or all these years is beyond my comprehension 😡
Maybe you guys will see this... I just commented on the main thread: Her death date on her grave said July 6th.... WHY was she IN SCHOOL on that date??? I thought maybe it was summer school, BUT all the other kids were there that day, too, from their interviews. What in the heck? Did schools used to run during July??? @southamericangirl42
I mean, I heard someone yelling "get off me" outside my apartment and called 911, the dispatcher told me to "go outside and see what was going on." I did look outside briefly and then asked her to send a patrol car out. She said she would, but they never came around. So "call the police" isn't really helpful advice in my experience.
@@russell-di8js The woman said she heard a girl screaming "Stop, you're hurting me!" that's not just children playing.....I. would have called anyway and if I was mistaken so be it....
That's a thought-provoking point! Sometimes, fear and uncertainty can make people hesitate to help even when they hear someone in need of assistance. What do you think we should do to overcome that fear and become braver in emergency situations?
@@christinalock9937 First, that doesn't matter. Call. Second, if you don't like how the laws are and how the courts are run, for heaven's sake, get involved in elections other than the presidential one every four years. Pay attention to your local elections. Know your judges. Elect people that will help convict people that do wrong. Write your congresspeople at the state level and let them know what laws you want changed, and punishments for those laws. Get signatures. It's too easy to sit here and say the courts are at fault, when in reality, it is the inattentive nature of citizens who don't pay attention to every. single. election. Michelle Obama said it best most recently: Do something.
Call EVERY TIME! I've Called and had arrests for: Domestic violence Fraud Theft Drug dealing Trust that feeling that sometime isn't right and act on that.
I was born in 1958. My parents were very strict with all of us. We felt embarrassed by all the rules compared to our friends more lenient parents. We totally understood how blessed we were though, after we became parents ourselves. I miss my wonderful, loving Dad & Mom more every day. ❤❤
I was just talking about the rules in Dallas my grandparents laid on us....never go in an alley, or cross any large streets....home by the time the street lights go on
Me too my parents were very strict but I'm glad they did and I've raised my daughters the same way and now l take care of my grandsons and I'm also raising them very strict specially in this generation...society is sick out there God have mercy on us all
Uoure rite. This country is corrupt at the top. They care less for the children and elderly. Prisoners get showers every day. Elderly get showers once a week !@Invading-Specious
@Invading-Specious You must be living under a rock. Enjoy it. Obviously, I don't know where you call home but, repeat offences are an even greater problem in Europe (especially in the EUSSR) due to the laughably, deplorably low prison terms that Liberals have put in place. If I'm not mistaken Canada and Australia are in the same predicament.
You are exactly right. They shouldn't feel cheated, because I believe wholeheartedly God gave this man one chance to repent, and he refused. Therefore God took him for a future date in His court. And what a horrific day that will be for him. Luke 17 KJV 2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
All of these people who were her friends, schoolmates etc are amazing to speak out. Wonderful to hear they still remember her and care about what happened.
Parents please listen to your children, maybe she called her Mother because she had a bad feeling or maybe someone was following her. Children are back to school, so please no work is more important than you children.
Is anybody else getting The lovely Bones from this case? What a tragic case. Very scary as a girl growing up having to walk to school& back home, i can only imagine how scared she was when he approached & even more so after. God Bless her little heart may she rest in peace♥️
I will be 65 years old tomorrow. When I was 12. I was walking from a bus stop to my Grandparents. A lot of traffic. A man stopped and asked if I wanted a ride. Clean cut, nice car, but he didn't smile, wouldn't really look at me. I wouldn't have, but I have always been glad I didn't get in that car. Something just wasn't right.
My grandaughter 17 years old takes public transportation to school and the bus stop is right across from our house but I sit outside watching her until the bus picks her up. We've told her that if a vehicle stops near her to run back across the street, never approach the car or interact with them , just run to me. You can never be too safe when it comes to your children. Parents , please keep a watchful eye on your children 😢😢😢 this case was heartbreaking ❤❤❤❤
I wholeheartedly agree. The pain and terror she went through, and the pain and torture her family and friends endured for the rest of their lives, is unthinkable. Not to mention the cops and investigators, what they had to endure, most of them having daughters/nieces that age. There should be no limitation on punishment. 😢😢😢 ❤️🌹🙏🌹❤️
When I was 18 in 1998 I called my mom to come pick me up from work at 9pm. It was dark and very very cold out. She wouldn't come and pick me up, yes, she had a car but was genuinely lazy most evenings, but I had no ride home that night and no money for a taxi which I explained to her, but she told me to walk home. In Longview, Texas we didn't have sidewalks back then and I had to walk home in the freezing cold and along a very busy four laned road. Yes, I was 18, but still so young. I got home and she's just sat there. I knew there and then that I would never do that to my children. My fingers and toes were frozen. Every night after work was always so stressful because I was never sure how I'd get home. I have three children of my own now and I would never let any of my kids struggle to get home from anywhere if I can help it. My mom was a good mom but sometimes she just didn't care if it got in the way of her tv shows. I live in England now rather than my native Texas.
The whole episode must have ruined the mother's life. These hideous murderers ruin so many more lives than just the actual victim; the family, friends, neighbors and witnesses are haunted for a lifetime.
Life is crazy!! Was it her fate regardless?? Would she have died another day or at another time ?? We’ll never know! We all have a date and a fate too meet!!
Wow. The composite sketch of the suspect from the two women that saw him was almost perfect. The B+W photo of him younger has him with hair styled instead of curly but it’s amazing how the artist got the eyes, nose and jaw to match from the witnesses under hypnosis. If social media existed back then this guy would have been caught in less than a week with that sketch.
@@ronaldwilson9525, BS,,,It was a time we had phones and knew of the dangers of kids being kidnapped and sexual abused...It was a time women was being violently attacked..Someone screaming STOP you are hurting should have been reported...Don't make the year an excuse for that selfish action of that person who heard a kid crying out in pain and choose to ignore it...I am a 69 born...Linda could be alive today had that person made a call...We had phones than for Christ sake....😢.
The sentence of 7 years to life and the fact that this guy was a serial abuser of children says everything you need to know. The laws are still insufficient today……
I think as a mom I would have had a thought of “what if I don’t” and would have picked her up. I don’t blame the mom because of the way things were back then, but I’m the type of person who tends to think like that
This sent chills in me because I was born in 1962 and while I was in elementary school, and standing at a public bus stop to go to school and a old white man in a black car with the silver trimming on it was harassing me and trying to get me to get in his car and he would leave and come back several times and I told/ask him to leave me alone and each time he left I prayed for the bus to come and finally when I saw him coming I got up on a low b rick wall to be away from the street and one time he actually showed himself to me and asked if I ever seen one before. I finally started walking back home down my street and I looked behind me as I was walking and saw him turn down my street and I started to run and missed my driveway and hit the dewy grass (good ole Buster Browns school shoes) which slide me into our fence and he pulled in and was getting out the car that had rag over the license plate and my dog had gotten free and came after him and he got back into the car and drove away. I sat on the porch with my dog Teddy and held him and cried and (I don't have a key to house and my mom had left and went the other way). So I put Teddy back on his chain and closed the gate and walked back to the bus stop and caught the bus to school and did not freak out until that evening and my mom called the police and they came, and I told them what happened. I still have anxiety around this, and I always wonder did he hurt anyone else because me as an adult now look back and realize he seem to be comfortable in his attempt and he had his tags covered. As an adult I asked my mom did she ever hear back from police or did she called them to see what they were doing because I was told to go to the other end to catch the bus and my older sister in high school had to accompany me for a few days but my mom was not getting ready to take us to school after such a close call and I would be at the new stop again by myself (but more passing traffic). My daughter did not have much freedom in playing outside and I took my son and daughter and my little sister (my mom had another child while I was in my 20s) to their elementary school and to their bus stops (and I get upset when I see little kids standing outside alone in the dark waiting for school buses). When my son could drive, he drove everyone to school after he dropped my off at work or I walked to my office complex. My only thing comforting to me is that this man is probably dead, and I don't feel like the police took it serious either because I never saw them cruise my street and my mom would not allow Teddy to be in the house and sometimes when I was alone there at night I swear someone was trying to get in and I would call the neighbors across the street and they would watch from their pouch as I ran over to their house. I am in my 60s now but fear is I got away and some kind of way someone going to abduct one of my grandchildren. I don't do share a ride nor Taxis but just did this year in July with my dad (dr office sent) where I started having an anxiety reaction and the driver had to help me calm down. I was a little girl with pigtails and glasses in my school dress and shoes trying to get to school and some freak man was on an evil mission that morning, it still so clear in my head. Thank you, Lord, for saving me through my dog Teddy (he died when I was away in college, my grandparents were keeping him), he got off his chain and had leap over the fence that day. My mom and us girls was amazed when we realized that he could do this. They had Linda's monster sitting in jail too long waiting for a trial and lost him to Death and you can't prosecute a dead person. The question is did he have other victims discarded somewhere out there never found because it seemed he moved around some. Sorry Linda no one called for help or came to rescue you.
I’m your age, and had the same thing happen to me while I was living in France, AND again in Italy. My grandparents were raising me, and when I told them, I didn’t get a lot of feedback. It was like watching paint dry. I was already overprotected, and my life just closed in even more. It’s like I got punished. My grandfather didn’t speak to me for three months. I fixated on the fact that it must have been my fault. Awful times. When I had children ( a girl and three boys), I was super duper careful with my daughter, not realizing that boys are just as vulnerable. Sure enough my youngest boy ( age 5) was abused while a 14 year old friend of my oldest son was upstairs while I worked downstairs. 😢😢😢😢😢
That made me cry a girl asked her mom to pick her up and she didn't pick her up. Me, I would walk million miles, I will climb the highest mountain and swim the deepest ocean to pick up my daughter.
Absolutely. And one of the reasons that I will be late for work, leave work or wherever I am the minute my kids need me to come and pick them up. I refuse to let them walk anywhere. I know other things can happen but this is one thing I feel I can control 🙏🏽
@@countfosco8535sure but then you have to think of priorities. My kids are my priority, if I cannot get someone I trust to take them to school or pick them up then I will do it or I'll find a different job. 🤷🏻♀️
@@fabyguz15 So in your world what is the solution for people with demanding professions, like pilots or doctors? Have no children, find a different job? Someone still has to do those jobs.
RIP Linda!!! What a story! Her friends and other community not giving up, the "what if i had picked her up", he not seeing justice but at the door.....this is some story indeed!!
HOW do you hear a girl screaming “don’t hurt me” and not do anything??? If I heard that, as a mother I’d be running outside with my .45 in my hand. So heartbreaking
I’ve submitted my DNA voluntarily to work on my family tree. You sign a waiver that gives the company permission to use it for things like this. I think it’s a FANTASTIC tool to use, and absolutely should be without controversy. If ppl have an issue with it - don’t submit your DNA. Simple as that.
@SonyS77exactly. And your privacy ends the moment a family member uploads their DNA. I'm all for crime solving but we cannot trust the FBI, CIA or our government in general.
@SonyS77 Thank you. That idea of "if you didn't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about," is so problematic for so many reasons. It's like people are just desperate to give up their freedoms and their privacy anymore.
I don't understand some of you guys. These are lives, and you're talking about repeats. That's a shame. I love 48 hours and have been watching for decades, but I would rather human beings not harm each other, and the show covered other topics if I had a choice. You guys have a terrible mentality.
WHY didn't the neighbors pull over when they saw Linda talking to the man in the van? Pull over. Ask Linda if she needs a ride, ask if she knows this man and if not ... tell her not to get in that strange man's van! Give her a ride home, it's one mile to her house!
They couldn't have possibly known what was going to happen. Blame the killer, not the people who had nothing to do with it. It's unhelpful and ridiculous.
I am the same age that Linda would be. I walked to and from school every day - starting at age 8. Usually with siblings or friends but sometimes alone. My mom had to work and there weren’t other options. This is the reality of many working families. I have always been petite, and blonde. In retrospect, the creepiest part is that I have never been harassed or pursued as much by men as when I was 8 to 11 years old. We are surrounded by predators and I am lucky to have made it to adulthood.
I agree. It started when I was 9 when I moved to the US from Brazil. The creepy guys slowing down, opening up the passenger-side door and "offering" a ride. This would also happen when I was on my bike, as if I needed a ride when I was already on my bike. There were plenty of flashers too. It made me wonder about the evil in adults but I was too young to understand what they were up to. I just knew they were up to no good.
Yeah. And confusing. At first I thought she was the young girl and survived from this crime. But nope. And are they purposely wanna guilt trip the mom? I believe the mom already suffered enough. They shouldn't do this type of storytelling format...
My son is 25 now, but the o e thing guaranteed to keep me awake is the thought of him frightened & alone. The detail of her pants broke me, the poor child.
This shows how important victim centred investigations and advocacy are. Cece Moore is such an incredible person who has done so much to bring closure to so many families. They way Linda's narrative was written was so respectful, and powerful. May she rest easy now.
There was much less fear of stranger danger to children in the 70s and 80s. I walked home alone at noon from kindergarten every day in 1969. I guess my folks had no fear that harm would come to me. Nothing bad ever happened but I was much more protective of my own kids !
@ajj9694 You were just lucky.....always at the right place, at the right time, with one of those monsters having either gone past before you or long after you had crossed the street and disappeared into the corner. Your parents took an incredible risk letting you walk alone....
@@shireenpassi4961 You are right, Shireen, that all of us (Linda's generation) who write here about this topic and confirm that this was simply what we did back then, were lucky. However, the odds of this happening were much smaller than today (but on the increase), and that had to first enter the mindset, so I contradict that our parents were taking an "incredible risks" back then. If that had been the case, millions of parents wouldn't have let their kids walk alone back then, or do you younger people here all believe that your parents and grandparents were less protective, less loving of their children than now? And that is my point about the mother: all the blaming going on here (about not picking her daughter up) is inappropriate - you have to see it in the context of the time. - Even if you chain your children to their computer/room and only allow them to go out until the are 18 etc., they might still meet a pervert where you don't suspect them - because risks and dangers keep changing all the time. Nowadays, even if you drive them to school, next thing you know they might be gunned down by their fellow psycho classmate. Sorry to say it, but then who will be blamed - the mothers/parents for letting their children go to school and run THAT risk? Life is a constant taking of risk, which parents must and hope to minimize according to what they know and experience.
yes. I was a child in the 70s and it was different. things still happened but not like today. it WAS a different world. everybody acting like this Mom was some sort of monster has no idea what a real monster part looks like, Poor Mom.
@ThankGodIAmAnAtheistYou go ahead and live your dreary life and let others believe in God. I feel very sorry for people like you and have known many that feel the way you do. None of them were happy people. Believing is a choice. You have free will to believe as you like.
Especially after her daughter asked to be picked up and the mom told her to walk home, she'll be ok. The guilt the mom must have carried had to be crushing to live with..
It’s not the mother’s fault, I probably would have picked up my daughter, depending how far it was. Here in AZ the kids walk or get a ride from their parents if the schools within a 2 mile radius.
Just imagine during those 12 hours with that monster, Linda was probably wondering why her mama just couldn't come pick her up. She probably felt so failed. Her last moments on this earth she felt let down by the person who was supposed to protect her. I don't mean to say this to place blame on the mother. As a mother myself, I know how busy life can get. I know she probably lived with unimaginable guilt. This case made me physically sick, especially thinking about little Linda's last moments
I don’t feel sad for the mom any good mother knows that a young little girl STILL in elementary school shouldn’t walk anywhere alone! Any mother could see that a small child could have gotten hit by a car, raped, or killed like this little girl! Awful parenting skills on something so basic has consequences you see!
*If you hear someone screaming for help, for gawd's sake, call 911, if you cannot intervene !!!* It's better to be wrong than sorry. It's your duty as a fellow human being.
When your child calls, no matter where you are, what your doing, who your with, you drop everything your doing and you pick up your offspring there's no excuse, err you too will be sorry. Be a responsible parent and protect your children at all costs. This is a prime example of ineptness! From The Bronx to the Philippines.
Cannot drop everything.. but make sure the children get home/to school or wherever safely. And sadly, I think in present, many times parents are involved in abuse
@@marygoff3332 I definitely see both sides. In those days it was nothing for a child to walk by themselves. I was allowed to be outside alone from like 7 onward. At the same time we are in the present and yet in this day and age we do have to drop everything to meet our kids. Sadly we can’t trust others like we could back then
@TheOne30264 pre-crime? I'm talking about adults who abuse kids, who are then given slaps on the wrist. Those crimes aren't taken as seriously as they should. They should be in prison for at least 20 kids for harming children. Children are only "protected" when the unthinkable happens.
Wait, did the mom tell Linda,” No, walk home”. Then an hour later the mom goes to the neighbors house to hang out? What was so important that she couldn’t drive a mile, but she can go chill at the neighbors and wait for her daughter to never arrive. I’m trying hard not to judge…No wonder there was such guilt
This was in 1973. It was a different time and this never ever happened in the whole country rarely. A mile is nothing to walk for an 11 year old. This was not the mother's fault.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND RELATIVES WHO SAY 'I FORGAVE THE KILLER...' HOW CAN YOU? One can quietly come to terms with what happened, retain the good memories...remember the victim in love. But forgiving the killer? No. That is ridiculous.
God wants people to forgive people. I actually saw some video on UA-cam Where this man said He went to hell because he didn't forgive his wife Came out of his body and he was in hell And the people on earth were praying for him He ended up telling his story for unforgivenness of his wife
@@JoyP-rw5bc SMH, do you really believe what anyone says on UA-cam? Where is this person's proof? People really need to learn to better critical thinking. My philosophy teacher taught us to critique comments (ie..4 out of 5 dentists prefer such and such gum) Ask who are the 5 and which of them preferred a specific product. Anybody can say anything on Dumbtube but as humans, we should analyze comments before believing in them. Scriptual proof: Eph. 4:14. Beware of the trickery of men.-
Not forgiving keeps you upset, angry, hurt, and in bondage to the perpetrator and the crime. Forgiveness is for your own good, not for the criminal. It frees you from all that turmoil. Plus, it's not your job to exact justice on the criminal; that belongs to law enforcement and, ultimately, God.
I don’t think the mean ‘forgiving’ in the truest sense of the word - I kind of understand it to mean they want to free their mind of the monster and forget him. I can’t imagine them wanting good things to come to him or for him not to be punished - that would be foolish.
50 years ago. God bless the poor mother, the guilt ruined her life. I was 20 years old back then and I lived in the area. We felt SAFE. We WERE safe. There was no “stranger danger” back then. We roamed our neighborhoods like we owned the place. It wasn’t the mother’s fault.
@@marygoff3332 Our parents wanted us to be independent and for us to be able to fend for ourselves. But back then we were usually in groups. We had real world neighborhood friends. There were creepy people out there and we sort of knew who to avoid. Word spread on the grapevine. The rule was to be home, or at somebody’s home, by the time the street lights came on.
I grew up the same time on a different continent and it was the same essence of feeling safe, we were but there were rules. Back by sundown, the kids who walked home from school knew each other and walked in a group etc. Linda's mum didn't pick her as she was supposed to for being too busy and had her walk home, thus making her a target for this predator. So it was actually the mother's fault.
So true. I was 10 in 1973 and during the summer we roamed around, never asking or saying where we were going, we just went. We did this all day, everyday . It was carefree and incredible the freedom we had. Danger was not on anyone’s mind and luckily nothing ever happened. A totally different way of life. A different way of parenting. Would go back in a heartbeat.
@@cindytrayer4279 I wish we could go back too. I feel sorry for youngsters that will never know that kind of freedom and of having big groups of friends, hanging out in the parks and at the beach and baseball fields, walking down to school on Saturday evening for dances and going to the movies alone with friends, spontaneous sleepovers, pool parties. . .These we’re all things that children managed on their own. It’s different now.
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In our day and age, including the 70's, something we should never see in public are any young girls walking alone. A young girl should NEVER, EVER go anywhere alone.
I completely agree. When my oldest daughter was 11, there was a school bus available 3 blocks from our house that could make a stop to pick her up and bring her to school but she would have been the only child waiting early in the morning on a busy road. I decided that it was not worth the risk for some creep to notice a little girl alone every morning waiting for a ride. I took her to school and picked her up myself.
You have to remember these were different times with kids and freedom to run around freely. I hope the mother was able to move past the guilt because there have been times when my kids had called me at work, and I absolutely could not leave and I told him to walk home. And I had also walked home many times in the 70s as a child from school. That’s just how it was.
My first thought was that the composite sketch did a great job. I wonder if Neal hadn't left for Florida if someone would have identified him eventually, I feel like he had a pretty unique face.
Can you imagine how many of these monsters are walking free in society? Especially if they have a grandpa face people tend to think they are the nicest people on earth. Let’s work together to protect our children. Whenever you see something odd, like the neighbor who saw that little girl talking to a stranger in a van, let’s step in and ask if they need help or something.
When my kids text for a ride I call back and ask are you serious? I may be boiling, but I'm on route. This world is wild. Please parents, if you're unavailable for children put someone in place who can immediately scoop them up. Plan. Plan. Plan.
@@SavingOurRepublicexactly I agree! The woman was an awful mother because any good mother would never let a little girl still in elementary school go anywhere alone!
@@StephRich888 this was the 1970s. It would have seemed cruel to keep kids inside. Kids spent a lot of time outside and grew up alongside their peers. But it’s another aspect that the young girl particularly wanted to be picked up and was adamant. That was strange that it didn’t result in getting a ride. Wish she had feigned acute illness or something, but who thinks they need to do that. The mother beats most modern mothers because she was AT HOME with her children, tiring work, but giving them a place to grow up, a nest so to speak. Instead of outside working, much easier work, and cloistering their modern children due to them not being part of a neighborhood anymore.
This is probably one of the saddest cases I've seen in 48 hrs. The weight of guilt her family has to carry for years for not picking her up that day, and the thought of dying not knowing who r*ped and killed your child is just depressing. May Linda and her parents somehow finds peace knowing that the criminal was identified.
Unless you were a parent or child back in the 70's, you cannot fathom how different it was...children were treated like mini mature adults with responsibility. Totally different than today...
@@marygoff3332and I’d go back in a heartbeat. It’s what made us strong, resilient, self reliant. Learned common sense and to problem solve. The freedom and independence was incredible.
@@marygoff3332 I was born in 1961 but was not allowed to walk to far from home or away A friend's parents would drive us or a parent would take me home or to friends. We played outdoors near home. A boy went missing in my neighborhood in 1963. I lived in a beautiful area at the time Things went on then to but much much worse today
@@mazie7952 It's actually safer today than it was back then. Statistics bear that out. Your child is much less likely to be abducted now than before. It doesn't make it feel good for the parents of the one that gets taken, but on the whole, the idea that it's not safe now is incorrect.
I walked to and from school for years elementary through middle school. I was alone most days. The walk was three miles round trip. I could’ve been Linda. I’m so sorry she didn’t make it.
I can't imagine the guilt that the mother would feel for not picking her up. It's not her fault, of course, but I think it would eat a person alive knowing that your decision led to your daughter's death.
I feel bad for mom for blaming herself. It's back then.You don't think stuff like this is going to happen. Me. And my siblings had to walk home from school because of my mom's work schedule. We always felt safe and would even stay out til dark riding our bikes, playing hide and seek tag, etc. Now days as an adult, i dont feel safe, walking at night bc of social media. I am more aware of the dangers out there, but back we didnt have this much info. I know her mom feels so much pain and so much guilt for something.She never could have known was going to happen. Heartbreaking
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Joseph D’Angelo wasn’t the first murderer caught through ancestral DNA matching as you claimed in this episode, it was just the first high profile case that hit the media where the method was involved. I’m aware of at least one cold case killing that was solved in 2017 using the same method a full year prior to solving the identity of the Golden State Killer
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So many Lindas thankyou❤
Love your program
My mother often refused to pick me up from practice. She would tell me to walk home. That was dangerous in more ways than one. She was aware I had already had an incident of five men trying to get me in the car, when I was twelve.
Luckily a friend's mom would send my friend to bring me home.
That mom passed away this year. I had a chance to tell her how much she meant to me.
Rest in peace Brenda. You were my savior.
❤ To Brenda and all caring mothers.
Sorry tour mother was a useless as a mother
I am glad you had someone who responded to you. RIP Brenda.
Well, times were different, all parents didnt have cars or possibilities to pick their children up, maybe we shouldn't be soo judgemental?
@@lackerbitandersson6241your first job as a mom is to protect your children
You hear a girl screaming and saying "stop you're hurting me", and you don't call police. This always baffles me.
Me too! It makes no sense to me.
Police should do something about the person not calling
Or at least investigate it.
It was common for people back in the day to "mind their own business" unfortunately. At least there are some positives from people today being nosy af lol
I agree.. sound an alarm and say leave her alone, I see you.
He was convicted of sexual assault before he killed her. It confirms my argument that such criminals should be in prison for life and they can’t do it again
@@jamesl9371 TRUTH. WHEN are the going COMPTREHEND this!!
I agree. They can hardly be rehabilitated since the wicked desire is in their mind. They must remain in prison to protect the general population.
They should get life and hard labour.
Exactly and the percentage for pedopjiles of re- offending is like 97% so that should be all it takes to keep these ppl behind bars…or just not breathing air!
I agree! They do it once they will again! Sexual assault should be life in prison
I love when they catch the criminals no matter how long it takes
The way we would play outside until the street lights went on are lone gone. I'm telling you to keep your children safe and make sure there was no way a predator to get the child
How do you love a verb??? I think you mean enjoy.
It is sad for her Mom who refused to pick Linda up at school. I'd hate to live with that guilt the rest of my life. 😢
I know. I’m sure she never forgave herself. 😢
She should feel guilty what mom puts anything before their kids
A family member has said this very guilt had shortened the mother’s life. It must’ve been a devastating for her.
@@CompUter-oo7er
Very sad! 😢
The mom should feel guilty. I cannot imagine not picking up my child and making them walk. Terrible
Whenever people say "ah, the good old days when life was simple and safe." It's never been safe. Especially for girls.
I say that all the time I always hear “when we were kids”, the truth is that when we were kids all of the most well known serial killers were actively adding notches to their belts. It’s always been a scary world, and it’s only getting worse
It’s never been safe for us: even for decades and centuries. Til this day as WOMEN we still have to be careful, I told my mom that it’s from birth til even elderly days. I’m 35 and it’s hard to even walk down the street alone. You never ever know!
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esp Cali. They've been taking women there for over half a century to use 'em up and throw them away.
If criminals are smart (let's admit, usually not) they'll stop breaking laws b/c w/technology - *very* hard to escape arrest.
I’m convinced that Linda sensed that something bad was going to happen. The fact that she felt so compelled to call her mom and beg for a ride says it all. As a child she probably couldn’t articulate what she was feeling but I believe she felt something unsettling and foreboding. Poor baby😢
I agree with you!😢
Absolutely
I recall back in the late 70s our parents never talk to us about sex or that there was mean people out there we were told to do what an adult asked us to do and we would do it for fear that we were going to be in trouble with our parents or get a whooping by the adult because our parents would give permission to the teachers 2 slap our hands with rulers and paddles for our behinds.. it's so sad that this little girl had to die this man got to live the rest of his life free raised his kids they had kids he saw his grandchildren and we may never know how many other victims there may have been in other states
@dynamicpisces There's every possibility that he had been stalking her on previous days, and that was why she was so afraid, and insistent on her Mom coming to get her.
Her Mother, failed her
Unfortunately these predators dont get put in prison for life without parole at the first incident. They get out of prison and ruin other childrens lives. Please protect the children by giving life without parole sentences. These predators never stop their sick behavior. Please protect the children.
You're 100% right. Unfortunately this is the world we live in, just a slap in the face
Christians believe in given a 2nd chance
@@thomasvalentine4636 lol since every judge and jury is a Christian
@@thomasvalentine4636 I don't think this is about Christianity. There are non-Christian countries that have more lenient punishments if the crimes are comitted against certain categories of people, such as girls and women.
They only get worse with every incident
It makes me cry that those adult friends of Linda still fight for her and still love her and still carry and share her memory. ❤😢
Sorry but they should have fought for her then.
@@jennylopez8021 If you really watched the video you would have seen that they did everything they could as 11 year olds to help find her.
Certainly don’t blame them as children because you think they didn’t do enough.
We should all be so lucky to have friends like that!
@@jennylopez8021such an exhorbated statement to make, that makes ZERO sense. 😢
@@jennylopez8021they did more than most friends would. Remember this was over 50 years ago. Things were different then.
@@jennylopez8021 they were 10 and 11. They did what children their age could do.
How can someone hear a girl screaming " you're hurting me " and not call police...how can she sleep in peace that night or all these years is beyond my comprehension 😡
Her mom, as well, must've eternally regretted not going to get her.
Maybe you guys will see this... I just commented on the main thread: Her death date on her grave said July 6th.... WHY was she IN SCHOOL on that date??? I thought maybe it was summer school, BUT all the other kids were there that day, too, from their interviews. What in the heck? Did schools used to run during July??? @southamericangirl42
I mean, I heard someone yelling "get off me" outside my apartment and called 911, the dispatcher told me to "go outside and see what was going on." I did look outside briefly and then asked her to send a patrol car out. She said she would, but they never came around. So "call the police" isn't really helpful advice in my experience.
How could the mother not pick her up! I know it was in the 70’s but the mother must have lived with guilt her entire life.
@@Thisismetman I just commented above about WHY was this child at school in JULY??? And all her friends were, too... Her grave date= 7/6/73
To hear a person screaming for help and to ignore it is insane.
how many times you'd hear kids scream if your house overlooked the sea high summer & in the 70s more children played outdoors?
How can. Anyone turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to someone in distress?
@@russell-di8js The woman said she heard a girl screaming "Stop, you're hurting me!" that's not just children playing.....I. would have called anyway and if I was mistaken so be it....
That's a thought-provoking point! Sometimes, fear and uncertainty can make people hesitate to help even when they hear someone in need of assistance. What do you think we should do to overcome that fear and become braver in emergency situations?
Some people mind their own business..
We need more people like that..
Cemeteries are filled with people who asked to many questions..
When you hear something please call. You could save a precious life !
100 💯 save a life.. but then it's over to the courts??? How many times has the justice system failed in sentencing😮😮😮
Yep, that girl sees that child talking to a guy in a VAN without her friends and doesn’t say a word??? Unbelievable
@@christinalock9937 First, that doesn't matter. Call. Second, if you don't like how the laws are and how the courts are run, for heaven's sake, get involved in elections other than the presidential one every four years. Pay attention to your local elections. Know your judges. Elect people that will help convict people that do wrong. Write your congresspeople at the state level and let them know what laws you want changed, and punishments for those laws. Get signatures. It's too easy to sit here and say the courts are at fault, when in reality, it is the inattentive nature of citizens who don't pay attention to every. single. election. Michelle Obama said it best most recently: Do something.
Call EVERY TIME! I've Called and had arrests for:
Domestic violence
Fraud
Theft
Drug dealing
Trust that feeling that sometime isn't right and act on that.
@@Madamegato100% correct!
I was born in 1958. My parents were very strict with all of us. We felt embarrassed by all the rules compared to our friends more lenient parents. We totally understood how blessed we were though, after we became parents ourselves. I miss my wonderful, loving Dad & Mom more every day. ❤❤
Same here. And that was back in the day.
My dad too and I was born in the 80’s
Yup my mom was strict but not overly
I was just talking about the rules in Dallas my grandparents laid on us....never go in an alley, or cross any large streets....home by the time the street lights go on
Me too my parents were very strict but I'm glad they did and I've raised my daughters the same way and now l take care of my grandsons and I'm also raising them very strict specially in this generation...society is sick out there God have mercy on us all
Thank you for solving Linda's case. This creep has gone to hell!
he'll be replaced for the next one, what the hell is wrong in your country?
Uoure rite. This country is corrupt at the top. They care less for the children and elderly.
Prisoners get showers every day. Elderly get showers once a week !@Invading-Specious
@@UA-camSucks666’what is wrong in’ our country? People keep voting for liberals! ‘Nuff said!
@Invading-Specious
You must be living under a rock. Enjoy it.
Obviously, I don't know where you call home but, repeat offences are an even greater problem in Europe (especially in the EUSSR) due to the laughably, deplorably low prison terms that Liberals have put in place.
If I'm not mistaken Canada and Australia are in the same predicament.
You are exactly right. They shouldn't feel cheated, because I believe wholeheartedly God gave this man one chance to repent, and he refused. Therefore God took him for a future date in His court. And what a horrific day that will be for him.
Luke 17 KJV 2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
All of these people who were her friends, schoolmates etc are amazing to speak out. Wonderful to hear they still remember her and care about what happened.
I bet the mom feels so much regret for not picking her up
Mom is a bum
@@reggiebanksrb10 so insensitive and unnecessary.
Yes, that poor woman... The guilt must have been unbearable 😢
@@Sarah24871 she shouldn’t have been a garbage parent. Deserves every bit of regret and shame she feels.
@@wangaritecla6108 just like how she was insensitive telling her exhausted child to walk home and meet her demise.
So many adults failed Linda on the day she went missing.
Parents please listen to your children, maybe she called her Mother because she had a bad feeling or maybe someone was following her. Children are back to school, so please no work is more important than you children.
Is anybody else getting The lovely Bones from this case? What a tragic case. Very scary as a girl growing up having to walk to school& back home, i can only imagine how scared she was when he approached & even more so after. God Bless her little heart may she rest in peace♥️
I thought so too
Yes! First thing I thought of.
Yea, I thought so
Yes! It reminded me of The Lovely Bones immediately! Hello, reader! 📗so *brat!* 🖤💚📚If you tell me your name is Sandy, I'm adopting you. 🤓🥰
It’s based on this case
I will be 65 years old tomorrow. When I was 12. I was walking from a bus stop to my Grandparents. A lot of traffic. A man stopped and asked if I wanted a ride. Clean cut, nice car, but he didn't smile, wouldn't really look at me. I wouldn't have, but I have always been glad I didn't get in that car. Something just wasn't right.
By the grace of your elders, your guardian angels were protecting you
My grandaughter 17 years old takes public transportation to school and the bus stop is right across from our house but I sit outside watching her until the bus picks her up. We've told her that if a vehicle stops near her to run back across the street, never approach the car or interact with them , just run to me. You can never be too safe when it comes to your children. Parents , please keep a watchful eye on your children 😢😢😢 this case was heartbreaking ❤❤❤❤
You are an amazing person ❤
Remind her to look both ways so she doesn't get hit by another car in the street as she is running back to you.
Yes 1000s go missing every day.....and people think it won't be their loved ones. Trust no one! Be vigilant at all times ✨
There should be no such thing as statute of limitations. Ridiculous!
I have never understood that in my life.
Joe Biden recently lifted the statute of limitations for child sex abuse victims
There is no statute of limitations for the pain her loved ones feel, so why do these criminals get to run out the clock!
I wholeheartedly agree. The pain and terror she went through, and the pain and torture her family and friends endured for the rest of their lives, is unthinkable. Not to mention the cops and investigators, what they had to endure, most of them having daughters/nieces that age. There should be no limitation on punishment. 😢😢😢 ❤️🌹🙏🌹❤️
I agree 100....I've always wondered why this exists--if you can prove a crime I don't care how many years ago it was, they should be punished!!!!!!
When I was 18 in 1998 I called my mom to come pick me up from work at 9pm. It was dark and very very cold out. She wouldn't come and pick me up, yes, she had a car but was genuinely lazy most evenings, but I had no ride home that night and no money for a taxi which I explained to her, but she told me to walk home. In Longview, Texas we didn't have sidewalks back then and I had to walk home in the freezing cold and along a very busy four laned road. Yes, I was 18, but still so young. I got home and she's just sat there. I knew there and then that I would never do that to my children. My fingers and toes were frozen. Every night after work was always so stressful because I was never sure how I'd get home. I have three children of my own now and I would never let any of my kids struggle to get home from anywhere if I can help it. My mom was a good mom but sometimes she just didn't care if it got in the way of her tv shows. I live in England now rather than my native Texas.
I forgot to tell you that I'm from Beaumont Texas ❤
@roseleestrout297 Ah, I have some great memories just outside Beaumont in China, Texas.
Have you ever heard of Atlanta, Texas?
@@MAGAISDUM Yes
Unbelievable that such monsters live with kids of their own and even grandkids.
Can you imagine the guilt her mom must’ve felt?
The whole episode must have ruined the mother's life. These hideous murderers ruin so many more lives than just the actual victim; the family, friends, neighbors and witnesses are haunted for a lifetime.
I can’t imagine how the mother found the strength to go on, this is horrible
Life is crazy!! Was it her fate regardless?? Would she have died another day or at another time ?? We’ll never know! We all have a date and a fate too meet!!
GOOD she should..Horrible mom
Wow. The composite sketch of the suspect from the two women that saw him was almost perfect. The B+W photo of him younger has him with hair styled instead of curly but it’s amazing how the artist got the eyes, nose and jaw to match from the witnesses under hypnosis. If social media existed back then this guy would have been caught in less than a week with that sketch.
I wonder if he had a perm or a wig.
Yes, I noticed it, too! The similarity is amazing.
Most of these artists who do the sketches are amazing. Truly gifted.
But even back then,cops would look into similar cases from neighboring counties.And he did live not very far.
@loandbehold5178 Just commented the same thing as you before seeing your comment. I agree it's Amazing 😮
Why don't people call the police when they hear a girl screaming help. WTF?
1973 was a different time. I was 10 then. You can’t put 2024 hindsight back in that time period.
@@ronaldwilson9525, BS,,,It was a time we had phones and knew of the dangers of kids being kidnapped and sexual abused...It was a time women was being violently attacked..Someone screaming STOP you are hurting should have been reported...Don't make the year an excuse for that selfish action of that person who heard a kid crying out in pain and choose to ignore it...I am a 69 born...Linda could be alive today had that person made a call...We had phones than for Christ sake....😢.
The sentence of 7 years to life and the fact that this guy was a serial abuser of children says everything you need to know. The laws are still insufficient today……
Some people just don’t want to be involved, or for whatever reason they just don’t want to talk to police. Not everyone thinks the same way.
@@Roy-w2o3f, I would have called the police EVEN then, regardless of the time period. 🤷🏻♂️
It's almost like Linda had a primanition. She wanted to be picked up. She was crying, asking to be picked up...gives me chills. Poor sweet girl
I think as a mom I would have had a thought of “what if I don’t” and would have picked her up. I don’t blame the mom because of the way things were back then, but I’m the type of person who tends to think like that
This sent chills in me because I was born in 1962 and while I was in elementary school, and standing at a public bus stop to go to school and a old white man in a black car with the silver trimming on it was harassing me and trying to get me to get in his car and he would leave and come back several times and I told/ask him to leave me alone and each time he left I prayed for the bus to come and finally when I saw him coming I got up on a low b rick wall to be away from the street and one time he actually showed himself to me and asked if I ever seen one before. I finally started walking back home down my street and I looked behind me as I was walking and saw him turn down my street and I started to run and missed my driveway and hit the dewy grass (good ole Buster Browns school shoes) which slide me into our fence and he pulled in and was getting out the car that had rag over the license plate and my dog had gotten free and came after him and he got back into the car and drove away. I sat on the porch with my dog Teddy and held him and cried and (I don't have a key to house and my mom had left and went the other way). So I put Teddy back on his chain and closed the gate and walked back to the bus stop and caught the bus to school and did not freak out until that evening and my mom called the police and they came, and I told them what happened. I still have anxiety around this, and I always wonder did he hurt anyone else because me as an adult now look back and realize he seem to be comfortable in his attempt and he had his tags covered. As an adult I asked my mom did she ever hear back from police or did she called them to see what they were doing because I was told to go to the other end to catch the bus and my older sister in high school had to accompany me for a few days but my mom was not getting ready to take us to school after such a close call and I would be at the new stop again by myself (but more passing traffic). My daughter did not have much freedom in playing outside and I took my son and daughter and my little sister (my mom had another child while I was in my 20s) to their elementary school and to their bus stops (and I get upset when I see little kids standing outside alone in the dark waiting for school buses). When my son could drive, he drove everyone to school after he dropped my off at work or I walked to my office complex. My only thing comforting to me is that this man is probably dead, and I don't feel like the police took it serious either because I never saw them cruise my street and my mom would not allow Teddy to be in the house and sometimes when I was alone there at night I swear someone was trying to get in and I would call the neighbors across the street and they would watch from their pouch as I ran over to their house. I am in my 60s now but fear is I got away and some kind of way someone going to abduct one of my grandchildren. I don't do share a ride nor Taxis but just did this year in July with my dad (dr office sent) where I started having an anxiety reaction and the driver had to help me calm down. I was a little girl with pigtails and glasses in my school dress and shoes trying to get to school and some freak man was on an evil mission that morning, it still so clear in my head. Thank you, Lord, for saving me through my dog Teddy (he died when I was away in college, my grandparents were keeping him), he got off his chain and had leap over the fence that day. My mom and us girls was amazed when we realized that he could do this.
They had Linda's monster sitting in jail too long waiting for a trial and lost him to Death and you can't prosecute a dead person. The question is did he have other victims discarded somewhere out there never found because it seemed he moved around some.
Sorry Linda no one called for help or came to rescue you.
God bless you 🌻I am so glad that you and your family are safe 🌺
Thank God for your wonderful dog. What a hero!
I’m your age, and had the same thing happen to me while I was living in France, AND again in Italy.
My grandparents were raising me, and when I told them, I didn’t get a lot of feedback. It was like watching paint dry. I was already overprotected, and my life just closed in even more. It’s like I got punished. My grandfather didn’t speak to me for three months. I fixated on the fact that it must have been my fault.
Awful times.
When I had children ( a girl and three boys), I was super duper careful with my daughter, not realizing that boys are just as vulnerable.
Sure enough my youngest boy ( age 5) was abused while a 14 year old friend of my oldest son was upstairs while I worked downstairs.
😢😢😢😢😢
@@Valentina-Steinway I am so sorry to hear that. Praying for your son's happiness. I think you are a good mom!
@@marymcquaid7291 - thank you 😊 you are encouraging me.
Single parent, 3/4 college degrees.
I did the best I could….
That made me cry a girl asked her mom to pick her up and she didn't pick her up. Me, I would walk million miles, I will climb the highest mountain and swim the deepest ocean to pick up my daughter.
Why the time limitations? This type of criminal cannot be rehabilitated and strike again
Watching from South Africa 🇿🇦
Statute of limitations is outrageous. Should only be valid for money fraud. Not violent crime.
Not even money fraud
Man, that picture of the family there at the end made me cry. A sweet and happy family before a horrible horrible tragedy.
I was born the same year as Linda. Our parents and teachers were SO naive back then. Neither SA nor “stranger danger” was ever discussed. 😞
A parents worst nightmare!😢
Absolutely. And one of the reasons that I will be late for work, leave work or wherever I am the minute my kids need me to come and pick them up. I refuse to let them walk anywhere. I know other things can happen but this is one thing I feel I can control 🙏🏽
@@redbonescorpio79 There are some jobs where you can't just leave. I guess yours is not one of them.
@@countfosco8535sure but then you have to think of priorities. My kids are my priority, if I cannot get someone I trust to take them to school or pick them up then I will do it or I'll find a different job. 🤷🏻♀️
Well, she should’ve picked her up!
@@fabyguz15 So in your world what is the solution for people with demanding professions, like pilots or doctors? Have no children, find a different job? Someone still has to do those jobs.
knowing he had children and grandchildren makes my spidey senses go crazy. I hope they were never harmed.
RIP Linda!!!
What a story!
Her friends and other community not giving up, the "what if i had picked her up", he not seeing justice but at the door.....this is some story indeed!!
HOW do you hear a girl screaming “don’t hurt me” and not do anything??? If I heard that, as a mother I’d be running outside with my .45 in my hand. So heartbreaking
the sickest thing to me is a child predator going and having kids… especially having daughters
I’ve submitted my DNA voluntarily to work on my family tree. You sign a waiver that gives the company permission to use it for things like this. I think it’s a FANTASTIC tool to use, and absolutely should be without controversy. If ppl have an issue with it - don’t submit your DNA. Simple as that.
Right. If you aren't a monster you have nothing to worry about.
@SonyS77exactly. And your privacy ends the moment a family member uploads their DNA.
I'm all for crime solving but we cannot trust the FBI, CIA or our government in general.
But what can they do in let’s say another 30 years with your DNA..
What if it's stolen and used against you? You have no clue what the future holds with possibilities. It's not just about you not being a bad person.
@SonyS77 Thank you. That idea of "if you didn't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about," is so problematic for so many reasons. It's like people are just desperate to give up their freedoms and their privacy anymore.
Finally a new story.. Thank you 😊
🙌🏽🙌🏽
Not new. Three year old
@@annazaman9657 yep! I realize that now. Thanks
Yes, I was getting a little Bit tired of Longer repetes,,,
I don't understand some of you guys. These are lives, and you're talking about repeats. That's a shame. I love 48 hours and have been watching for decades, but I would rather human beings not harm each other, and the show covered other topics if I had a choice. You guys have a terrible mentality.
WHY didn't the neighbors pull over when they saw Linda talking to the man in the van? Pull over. Ask Linda if she needs a ride, ask if she knows this man and if not ... tell her not to get in that strange man's van! Give her a ride home, it's one mile to her house!
They didn’t know. It might not have been the kind of intersection you can stop at.
They had no way of knowing he was a stranger and not just a relative or family friend visiting from out of town.
They couldn't have possibly known what was going to happen. Blame the killer, not the people who had nothing to do with it. It's unhelpful and ridiculous.
The neighbor? Was a 19 year old girl. Guaranteed to be no smarter than Linda's mother who made her walk home
Statute of limitations is the DUMBEST thing in the justice system
That's just said though it's not a justice system.
I am the same age that Linda would be. I walked to and from school every day - starting at age 8. Usually with siblings or friends but sometimes alone. My mom had to work and there weren’t other options. This is the reality of many working families.
I have always been petite, and blonde. In retrospect, the creepiest part is that I have never been harassed or pursued as much by men as when I was 8 to 11 years old. We are surrounded by predators and I am lucky to have made it to adulthood.
I agree. It started when I was 9 when I moved to the US from Brazil. The creepy guys slowing down, opening up the passenger-side door and "offering" a ride. This would also happen when I was on my bike, as if I needed a ride when I was already on my bike. There were plenty of flashers too. It made me wonder about the evil in adults but I was too young to understand what they were up to. I just knew they were up to no good.
Weird to let someone mimic the deceased child.
I think the lady was reading the story they put out on twitter.
And confusing!
It gives her a voice.
Yeah. And confusing. At first I thought she was the young girl and survived from this crime. But nope. And are they purposely wanna guilt trip the mom? I believe the mom already suffered enough. They shouldn't do this type of storytelling format...
They made me think that little girl survived
My son is 25 now, but the o e thing guaranteed to keep me awake is the thought of him frightened & alone. The detail of her pants broke me, the poor child.
This shows how important victim centred investigations and advocacy are. Cece Moore is such an incredible person who has done so much to bring closure to so many families.
They way Linda's narrative was written was so respectful, and powerful. May she rest easy now.
There was much less fear of stranger danger to children in the 70s and 80s. I walked home alone at noon from kindergarten every day in 1969. I guess my folks had no fear that harm would come to me. Nothing bad ever happened but I was much more protective of my own kids !
Same here, I can confirm this experience.
I raised 4 kids 2 in the eighties and 2 more in the 90’s I was always worried about them being abducted so I never let them walk alone. Tragic case
@ajj9694 You were just lucky.....always at the right place, at the right time, with one of those monsters having either gone past before you or long after you had crossed the street and disappeared into the corner. Your parents took an incredible risk letting you walk alone....
@@shireenpassi4961 You are right, Shireen, that all of us (Linda's generation) who write here about this topic and confirm that this was simply what we did back then, were lucky. However, the odds of this happening were much smaller than today (but on the increase), and that had to first enter the mindset, so I contradict that our parents were taking an "incredible risks" back then. If that had been the case, millions of parents wouldn't have let their kids walk alone back then, or do you younger people here all believe that your parents and grandparents were less protective, less loving of their children than now? And that is my point about the mother: all the blaming going on here (about not picking her daughter up) is inappropriate - you have to see it in the context of the time. - Even if you chain your children to their computer/room and only allow them to go out until the are 18 etc., they might still meet a pervert where you don't suspect them - because risks and dangers keep changing all the time. Nowadays, even if you drive them to school, next thing you know they might be gunned down by their fellow psycho classmate. Sorry to say it, but then who will be blamed - the mothers/parents for letting their children go to school and run THAT risk? Life is a constant taking of risk, which parents must and hope to minimize according to what they know and experience.
yes. I was a child in the 70s and it was different. things still happened but not like today. it WAS a different world. everybody acting like this Mom was some sort of monster has no idea what a real monster part looks like, Poor Mom.
If my daughter was crying and wanted a ride home. I would not have thought twice. I would go get her.
Great job detectives! Rest in love and peace Linda 💗
@ThankGodIAmAnAtheistYou go ahead and live your dreary life and let others believe in God.
I feel very sorry for people like you and have known many that feel the way you do. None of them were happy people.
Believing is a choice. You have free will to believe as you like.
@ThankGodIAmAnAtheist there’s too many facts that contradict your thinking.
@ThankGodIAmAnAtheist not so. But we can agree to disagree 😉🧡🧡🧡
Omg, i feel awful for her mother. Nobody could imagine this happening to their child.
So true. My kids can not comprehend how it was back then. A time of innocents for sure.
The guilt she must have carried would be horrendous.
Especially after her daughter asked to be picked up and the mom told her to walk home, she'll be ok. The guilt the mom must have carried had to be crushing to live with..
I feel bad for the child. The mom was cold and uncaring! 😢 she was working from home and her daughter begged to be picked up
It’s not the mother’s fault, I probably would have picked up my daughter, depending how far it was. Here in AZ the kids walk or get a ride from their parents if the schools within a 2 mile radius.
So heart breaking. Linda and her mom suffered tremendously, one the terror, the other the guilt. Hope they rest in peace now. 🥲🥲🥲
Just imagine during those 12 hours with that monster, Linda was probably wondering why her mama just couldn't come pick her up. She probably felt so failed. Her last moments on this earth she felt let down by the person who was supposed to protect her. I don't mean to say this to place blame on the mother. As a mother myself, I know how busy life can get. I know she probably lived with unimaginable guilt. This case made me physically sick, especially thinking about little Linda's last moments
They should have never let this slimball out of prison to begin with, he was a menace to society and children.
*slimeball
Even here in South Africa, we knew about this tragic story. Feel so sad for how guilty her mom must have felt
I don’t feel sad for the mom any good mother knows that a young little girl STILL in elementary school shouldn’t walk anywhere alone! Any mother could see that a small child could have gotten hit by a car, raped, or killed like this little girl! Awful parenting skills on something so basic has consequences you see!
@@StephRich888 true
*If you hear someone screaming for help, for gawd's sake, call 911, if you cannot intervene !!!* It's better to be wrong than sorry. It's your duty as a fellow human being.
I know the mum felt so bad after this happened, especially since she wanted to be picked up...such a sad story. 😢
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🎉🎉Agreed!
The lady talking as the girl is so unnecessary
I don't think that I could bear it if they narrated the story using a little girl's voice. Too horrible.
I don't like it
Geez, she's the one who start the campaign about this case on twitter, and it got millions of intentions through twitter, and finally got solved
When your child calls, no matter where you are, what your doing, who your with, you drop everything your doing and you pick up your offspring there's no excuse, err you too will be sorry. Be a responsible parent and protect your children at all costs. This is a prime example of ineptness!
From The Bronx to the Philippines.
Cannot drop everything.. but make sure the children get home/to school or wherever safely.
And sadly, I think in present, many times parents are involved in abuse
Totally different rules, society and world 50 years ago. You can't compare.
@@marygoff3332 YUP. All these people popping off with their lectures don't get it.
@@marygoff3332 I definitely see both sides. In those days it was nothing for a child to walk by themselves. I was allowed to be outside alone from like 7 onward. At the same time we are in the present and yet in this day and age we do have to drop everything to meet our kids. Sadly we can’t trust others like we could back then
Why does a child have to be murdered before their perpetrators are punished for harming them?
If a kid isn’t harmed or murdered, there’s no perpetrator to punish.🙄
😂😂😂 what?
My brain hurts
Did you not watch minority report? You know, pre-crine. It's like opening Pandora's box.
@TheOne30264 pre-crime? I'm talking about adults who abuse kids, who are then given slaps on the wrist. Those crimes aren't taken as seriously as they should. They should be in prison for at least 20 kids for harming children. Children are only "protected" when the unthinkable happens.
It’s really sad that, this evil man didn’t get what he deserves.
Wait, did the mom tell Linda,” No, walk home”. Then an hour later the mom goes to the neighbors house to hang out? What was so important that she couldn’t drive a mile, but she can go chill at the neighbors and wait for her daughter to never arrive. I’m trying hard not to judge…No wonder there was such guilt
This was in 1973. It was a different time and this never ever happened in the whole country rarely. A mile is nothing to walk for an 11 year old. This was not the mother's fault.
That's how we all were treated back then
True we were expected to walk home, almost always.
Yeah - guilt had to hurt so bad
@@RubberWilburNO. It certainly was not the mother's fault
I also feel bad to her little sister. Mom was pretty much absent since her sister died.
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I DO NOT UNDERSTAND RELATIVES WHO SAY 'I FORGAVE THE KILLER...'
HOW CAN YOU?
One can quietly come to terms with what happened, retain the good memories...remember the victim in love.
But forgiving the killer? No. That is ridiculous.
Forgiveness is for the victim side so THEY can have peace. Not the killer.
God wants people to forgive people. I actually saw some video on UA-cam Where this man said He went to hell because he didn't forgive his wife Came out of his body and he was in hell And the people on earth were praying for him He ended up telling his story for unforgivenness of his wife
@@JoyP-rw5bc SMH, do you really believe what anyone says on UA-cam? Where is this person's proof? People really need to learn to better critical thinking. My philosophy teacher taught us to critique comments (ie..4 out of 5 dentists prefer such and such gum) Ask who are the 5 and which of them preferred a specific product. Anybody can say anything on Dumbtube but as humans, we should analyze comments before believing in them. Scriptual proof: Eph. 4:14. Beware of the trickery of men.-
Not forgiving keeps you upset, angry, hurt, and in bondage to the perpetrator and the crime. Forgiveness is for your own good, not for the criminal. It frees you from all that turmoil. Plus, it's not your job to exact justice on the criminal; that belongs to law enforcement and, ultimately, God.
I don’t think the mean ‘forgiving’ in the truest sense of the word - I kind of understand it to mean they want to free their mind of the monster and forget him. I can’t imagine them wanting good things to come to him or for him not to be punished - that would be foolish.
how can we put an end to male pattern violence?
castration at first sexual offense?
@@nakoma5This is not Saudi Arabia. 🙄
Death Penalty for all Sexual Crimes.
@@RevLeigh55 For sick crimes like those, it should be considered.
choose the bear
Mom just seems like an incredible human being. Artistic and loving. Reminds me much of my mother and growing up.
50 years ago. God bless the poor mother, the guilt ruined her life. I was 20 years old back then and I lived in the area. We felt SAFE. We WERE safe. There was no “stranger danger” back then. We roamed our neighborhoods like we owned the place. It wasn’t the mother’s fault.
Yep. We walked, biked or roller skated to our friend's homes without a care in the world. Free-range childhood.
@@marygoff3332 Our parents wanted us to be independent and for us to be able to fend for ourselves. But back then we were usually in groups. We had real world neighborhood friends. There were creepy people out there and we sort of knew who to avoid. Word spread on the grapevine. The rule was to be home, or at somebody’s home, by the time the street lights came on.
I grew up the same time on a different continent and it was the same essence of feeling safe, we were but there were rules. Back by sundown, the kids who walked home from school knew each other and walked in a group etc. Linda's mum didn't pick her as she was supposed to for being too busy and had her walk home, thus making her a target for this predator. So it was actually the mother's fault.
So true. I was 10 in 1973 and during the summer we roamed around, never asking or saying where we were going, we just went. We did this all day, everyday . It was carefree and incredible the freedom we had. Danger was not on anyone’s mind and luckily nothing ever happened. A totally different way of life. A different way of parenting. Would go back in a heartbeat.
@@cindytrayer4279 I wish we could go back too. I feel sorry for youngsters that will never know that kind of freedom and of having big groups of friends, hanging out in the parks and at the beach and baseball fields, walking down to school on Saturday evening for dances and going to the movies alone with friends, spontaneous sleepovers, pool parties. . .These we’re all things that children managed on their own. It’s different now.
This is a really good episode. Not mad about the woman doing Linda’s voice. They could have got a younger person to do it.
Might be too traumatic. I mean, I find it to be too heartwrenching. Sad!!
She was the woman who said to put the story on Twitter. Who else should it be? 😂
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Great Story....RIP Linda....I was a Month old when this Happened...Now I will be 52 NEXT YEAR....Time goes Fast
Me, too. I was exactly 1 month old.
In our day and age, including the 70's, something we should never see in public are any young girls walking alone. A young girl should NEVER, EVER go anywhere alone.
Was this made aware by your government back then??
I completely agree. When my oldest daughter was 11, there was a school bus available 3 blocks from our house that could make a stop to pick her up and bring her to school but she would have been the only child waiting early in the morning on a busy road. I decided that it was not worth the risk for some creep to notice a little girl alone every morning waiting for a ride. I took her to school and picked her up myself.
You have to remember these were different times with kids and freedom to run around freely. I hope the mother was able to move past the guilt because there have been times when my kids had called me at work, and I absolutely could not leave and I told him to walk home. And I had also walked home many times in the 70s as a child from school. That’s just how it was.
100% - I can tell by the comments who was a parent or child back in the 1970's, and who was not! 😂
If you cannot give your child a ride home atleast ask a teacher or another parent to do so.
This was not her mother's fault. Blame the pdf monster.
@@purplerain6742 erm the mother should’ve cared more about her daughter she was in obvious distress and even crying
So. Much. This. If mom hadn't put work before her kid, we wouldn't be watching this today.
@@crochet1991Really disgusting to blame the mother. How dare you.
@@RevLeigh55I agree, it was a different time. Blame the POS that did the crime.
Wow that composition sketch was spot on, Bravo to both the witness & the artist!
My first thought was that the composite sketch did a great job. I wonder if Neal hadn't left for Florida if someone would have identified him eventually, I feel like he had a pretty unique face.
I bet her mother will regret forever for refusing to pick her daughter that day.
Can you imagine how many of these monsters are walking free in society? Especially if they have a grandpa face people tend to think they are the nicest people on earth. Let’s work together to protect our children. Whenever you see something odd, like the neighbor who saw that little girl talking to a stranger in a van, let’s step in and ask if they need help or something.
A couple of people failed Linda... may you rest in peace lil angel... for gawd sake 11years old... I'm saddened..and I'm not even a parent..
When my kids text for a ride I call back and ask are you serious? I may be boiling, but I'm on route. This world is wild. Please parents, if you're unavailable for children put someone in place who can immediately scoop them up. Plan. Plan. Plan.
It's en route not on route.
Totally different society and world 50 years ago.
Boiling?
Why would you be boiling if you're acting like it's important to be there for your kids? Don't be a damn hypocrite.
This is hypocritical.
😂😂😂
The whole narration thing is beyond bizarre
Wow! I cried, this so so heart breaking 😢😢
Blessings to those friends who never gave up for Linda and for those authorities who still work for justice
That poor mother. She must have dealt with guilt for the rest of her life.
I doubt it or she would've picked her up
As she should be!
@@SavingOurRepublicexactly I agree! The woman was an awful mother because any good mother would never let a little girl still in elementary school go anywhere alone!
@@StephRich888 this was the 1970s. It would have seemed cruel to keep kids inside. Kids spent a lot of time outside and grew up alongside their peers. But it’s another aspect that the young girl particularly wanted to be picked up and was adamant. That was strange that it didn’t result in getting a ride. Wish she had feigned acute illness or something, but who thinks they need to do that. The mother beats most modern mothers because she was AT HOME with her children, tiring work, but giving them a place to grow up, a nest so to speak. Instead of outside working, much easier work, and cloistering their modern children due to them not being part of a neighborhood anymore.
No justice, but closure 💜
Oh, he's getting a punishment that's going to last for all eternity. He got away with nothing in the end.
This is probably one of the saddest cases I've seen in 48 hrs. The weight of guilt her family has to carry for years for not picking her up that day, and the thought of dying not knowing who r*ped and killed your child is just depressing. May Linda and her parents somehow finds peace knowing that the criminal was identified.
What an incredible story; fascinating. Justice was served. 🇺🇸
I would never deny my child a ride. Especially at that age
Unless you were a parent or child back in the 70's, you cannot fathom how different it was...children were treated like mini mature adults with responsibility. Totally different than today...
@@marygoff3332and I’d go back in a heartbeat. It’s what made us strong, resilient, self reliant. Learned common sense and to problem solve. The freedom and independence was incredible.
Horrible mom
@@marygoff3332 I was born in 1961 but was not allowed to walk to far from home or away
A friend's parents would drive us or a parent would take me home or to friends. We played outdoors near home.
A boy went missing in my neighborhood in 1963. I lived in a beautiful area at the time
Things went on then to but much much worse today
@@mazie7952 It's actually safer today than it was back then. Statistics bear that out. Your child is much less likely to be abducted now than before. It doesn't make it feel good for the parents of the one that gets taken, but on the whole, the idea that it's not safe now is incorrect.
I walked to and from school for years elementary through middle school. I was alone most days. The walk was three miles round trip. I could’ve been Linda. I’m so sorry she didn’t make it.
I don't usually like such comments...never thought I would make one myself: It's almost like she was dreading the walk home from the school....
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That first sketch of the guy was sooo accurate. Good work.
This story makes me cry. Poor baby girl 💔
These terrible events are always so well presented on 48 Hours. Well done 👏👏
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Why do they have statutes of limitations for assault? I don’t get it. And I think the same thing. Who hears a scream and doesn’t do anything.
I can't imagine the guilt that the mother would feel for not picking her up. It's not her fault, of course, but I think it would eat a person alive knowing that your decision led to your daughter's death.
Exactly, and I didn't care for the way they basically blamed the mother. I know she blamed herself more than they ever could.
I feel bad for mom for blaming herself. It's back then.You don't think stuff like this is going to happen. Me. And my siblings had to walk home from school because of my mom's work schedule. We always felt safe and would even stay out til dark riding our bikes, playing hide and seek tag, etc. Now days as an adult, i dont feel safe, walking at night bc of social media. I am more aware of the dangers out there, but back we didnt have this much info. I know her mom feels so much pain and so much guilt for something.She never could have known was going to happen. Heartbreaking
Oh god I hate it when someone starts "talking as the victim". Especially when they try to be quirky. So unnecessary.
And she resembles the victim
I thinkit is a very powerful tool. Makes people pay attention, whereas a straight report might be boring and dry.
I agree, I find it very creepy
It is very odd. Not a fan.
It through me off too