Ginyu should definitely be #1. If you want to do optimal combos he has 5 versions you have to remember for in the corner depending on which member is up next and 5 different versions for mid screen, all with difficult and unique timing. You also need to know both a body change combo and an active tag body change all while remembering which member is up next
Ye sure I’m agree with u but I hv another side were I hv 600h on Mahon buu and he is big, very big so u take more mix or Shemmies, u hv the best mix up (potential) in the game and now he has new very hard loops so idk 😊
Frieza has a fullscreen 5M, though, and projectile stall with Psychokinesis and Death Saucer. And when he's Golden Frieza, his reverse beat combos are way easier than Ultimate Gohan's.
u should definitely do more videos like this. I like this video a lot. it's somehow relaxing to just watch you explain these characters. keep it up👍👌[A17(like in ur thumbnail) should have been put somewhere in the video, i bought him but can never play him online because his buttons, etc. are to difficult]
I main Adult Gohan since launch of the game and the legs loops now is soooo much easier than before, but still if you don't put time on it you are going to drop 100%. Before... Oh boy... You almost should be perfect to do his legs loops because the timing was restricted so much
@@fathead3632 Super Baby has a lot about him that's hard, at least if you're playing him optimally. He has tons of character specific combos that get even more specific deending on what launcher you're using, his neutral is strong but hard to execute effectively since almost everything is punishable by super dash, and his mixups vary greatly depending on the team comp
Videl main since i picked the game up and i gotta agree she isnt that hard. Her lack of reflect can make it hard to escape cornet but other than that even her loops are simple
As the third videl main i gotta say that i love block trapping people in the corner with gohans dive. Just hard knockdown someone and set that up and you got a safe blockstring almost every time
I’ve made guides for all these characters so even though I initially forgot how to do them my muscle memory made it easier to remember. But for some it did take longer to do though.
I didn't understand why Master Roshi was on this list, till I remembered just because I mained Roshi until Yamcha gets buffed doesn't mean every one understands him.
Kinda disagree on majin buu being #1 and Nappa being #3. I’ve rocked both of them for a while and while they are unorthodox they are pretty simple at the core once you get the combo structure down. I’d say roshi, A gohan, and Hit are the top 1-3. Roshi is weird as hell and had various loops and buttons that don’t work in every scenario. A Gohan is super level specific for his combos, and Hit outside of his BS DP has incredibly awkward buttons and almost no neutral unless you play on full reactions
definitely do agree. hit, gohan, and nappa are pretty difficult in my opinion. people are just scared of playing majin buu so they label him difficult. he's definitely not "easy", but I wouldn't label him the hardest character in the game by any means. beerus could've been on here as well, his optimal routes have pretty strict timing.
I agree with you. I play Nappa and he is easy as fuck, appart from a tough neutral. He has a counter, he has long reach and anti reflect. Roshi is the hardest character, but has incredible tools. Hit has unusual controls as jiren with a command grab on his H, janemba has weird combos too, piccolo is very hard because of his timings, beerus is special too.. but this list is weird.
Pretty much the characters who need to rejump in their combo for high damage are the hardest. Fusions and UI are literally easy mode/win 5L clashes for free
I need to practice on learning hard combos for the characters I like to play with 1. Goku Black 2. Gogeta Blue 3. Vegito Blue 4. Gogeta super saiyan 4 5. Cooler 6. Broly dbz 7. Janemba 8. Vegeta super saiyan blue 9. Goku super saiyan blue 10. Goku Ultra Intstinct.
18 should be on that list it takes pratice to peform them combos especially with 17 because mid combo u got to call him and then follow up or try to which will be a little harder if u are in that air.
Honestly not bad, of course it’s all opinion but I woulda went 1. Ginyu 2. Nappa 3. Roshi 4. Frieza 5. Majin Buu 6. Zamasu 7. Gotenks 8. Baby 9. Krillin 10. Piccolo I think hit and videl have some stupid braindead tools to go along with their more difficult optimal stuff, A. Gohan is my 11, I agree he’s kinda hard just imo not harder than any of these. Nice list tho I respect your opinion
Imaging having to work your ass off to get a stylish looking combo; Just for the enemy Gogeta to take half your health with a auto combo that has anti air properties and one C assist.
After watching this video, I think I'm a masochist XD. I'm a main videl and I was thinking of getting into the team picolo and janemba. I guess it's just janemba XD
Can you explain base goku and vegeta? Blue goku I can understand but these two are pretty od in any circumstance. Goku more then vegeta especially since vegeta got power crept over time
@@35matthxw Base Vegeta is hard to play cause you basically have to be perfect at all times. Base Goku has so many routes and rejumps its crazy and Blue Goku is the same as Base Vegeta
I was worried that since 17 was on the thumbnail that he'd be in the video. Thank god I was wrong (although Hit - while hard to master - is pretty easy to use).
That’s why he’s on the list. His neutral forces good judgement and patience. And personally I think his optimal hellzone grenade routes are tough to master, took me a while to get them down consistently. His lvl 3 mix is also hard IMO. But his BnBs are simple and it’s pretty easy to mix with elbow and frametrap people trying to mash.
![Better than normal DBFZ... [Ultimate DBFZ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1oo6ET88ir0/mqdefault.jpg)
Ginyu should definitely be #1. If you want to do optimal combos he has 5 versions you have to remember for in the corner depending on which member is up next and 5 different versions for mid screen, all with difficult and unique timing. You also need to know both a body change combo and an active tag body change all while remembering which member is up next
Ye sure I’m agree with u but I hv another side were I hv 600h on Mahon buu and he is big, very big so u take more mix or Shemmies, u hv the best mix up (potential) in the game and now he has new very hard loops so idk 😊
Great video! I feel like frieza should have made the list, his gameplan is pretty difficult and his combos changes when he becomes Golden frieza.
There were some like Frieza I would have put if I made top 15 lol
Frieza has a fullscreen 5M, though, and projectile stall with Psychokinesis and Death Saucer. And when he's Golden Frieza, his reverse beat combos are way easier than Ultimate Gohan's.
I think Frieza is just bad, not hard. The only depth to him is Golden Frieza imo
@@ModernAegis that fullscreen 5M doesn't become active until its very close to the opponent, so it gets stuffed very easily
@@joncliffmckinley5868 In my experience, it actually stops somewhat short. This is especially apparent when switching to Beerus and using 2M.
u should definitely do more videos like this. I like this video a lot. it's somehow relaxing to just watch you explain these characters. keep it up👍👌[A17(like in ur thumbnail) should have been put somewhere in the video, i bought him but can never play him online because his buttons, etc. are to difficult]
I do, I just haven't made them in awhile, they take up some time. I made top 10 easiest characters, top 10 auto combos, top 10 point characters etc.
@@sontheboss guess i'll find and watch those then
I like how am only now learning that all the characters I like to play are all overly complicated for reason I didn't realize
as someone who picked majin buu as their first character i can say: *WHAT?!*
That outro was awesome:0
Thx bro!
baby should be on here his optimal routes are ridiculous and his most damaging loops are rly hard to time
I main Adult Gohan since launch of the game and the legs loops now is soooo much easier than before, but still if you don't put time on it you are going to drop 100%. Before... Oh boy... You almost should be perfect to do his legs loops because the timing was restricted so much
I think baby would have been better instead of hit but other than that I mostly agree
how the hell is baby hard? just mash ur s button and a combination of different directions
@@fathead3632 Super Baby has a lot about him that's hard, at least if you're playing him optimally. He has tons of character specific combos that get even more specific deending on what launcher you're using, his neutral is strong but hard to execute effectively since almost everything is punishable by super dash, and his mixups vary greatly depending on the team comp
@@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD launcher? Bruv this ain't tekken. You mean light starter/medium starter or 2h?
@@fathead3632 I meant launcher. 2H, 5H, 5LLL, 236H, and j.2H may have different routes depending on the character
Agreed for this top hard list
But maybe teen gohan
A17
And A16 or beerus instead of nappa
Fat buu and videl
Great video Hope soon will come
how is zamasus neutral lacking i dont get it
as one of the 3 videl mains i dont think shes that hard, her combos are a little funky compared to others but they arent hard.
Videl main since i picked the game up and i gotta agree she isnt that hard. Her lack of reflect can make it hard to escape cornet but other than that even her loops are simple
As the third videl main i gotta say that i love block trapping people in the corner with gohans dive. Just hard knockdown someone and set that up and you got a safe blockstring almost every time
As the forth videl main I don't know because I suck ass at this game
As the fifth videl main yeah I wouldn't say she's that difficult but are we sure we aren't biased because we main her.
As the 5.5th videl player: bingo
The fact that hit got 7 is crazy tho
baby should def deserve a spot here, all of his optimal stuff are loops of some kind and typically require strict inputs, but still great vid 👍
The list is great, no complaints here. What impresses me the most though, is how you managed to perform each character's hard/hardest combos.
I’ve made guides for all these characters so even though I initially forgot how to do them my muscle memory made it easier to remember. But for some it did take longer to do though.
I didn't understand why Master Roshi was on this list, till I remembered just because I mained Roshi until Yamcha gets buffed doesn't mean every one understands him.
I was about to comment something similar...
Kinda disagree on majin buu being #1 and Nappa being #3. I’ve rocked both of them for a while and while they are unorthodox they are pretty simple at the core once you get the combo structure down. I’d say roshi, A gohan, and Hit are the top 1-3. Roshi is weird as hell and had various loops and buttons that don’t work in every scenario. A Gohan is super level specific for his combos, and Hit outside of his BS DP has incredibly awkward buttons and almost no neutral unless you play on full reactions
definitely do agree. hit, gohan, and nappa are pretty difficult in my opinion. people are just scared of playing majin buu so they label him difficult. he's definitely not "easy", but I wouldn't label him the hardest character in the game by any means. beerus could've been on here as well, his optimal routes have pretty strict timing.
Yeah, you go first buddy
I agree with you. I play Nappa and he is easy as fuck, appart from a tough neutral. He has a counter, he has long reach and anti reflect. Roshi is the hardest character, but has incredible tools. Hit has unusual controls as jiren with a command grab on his H, janemba has weird combos too, piccolo is very hard because of his timings, beerus is special too.. but this list is weird.
Pretty much the characters who need to rejump in their combo for high damage are the hardest. Fusions and UI are literally easy mode/win 5L clashes for free
What song is this in the background?
What’s the name of the song if you don’t mind me asking
I need to practice on learning hard combos for the characters I like to play with
1. Goku Black
2. Gogeta Blue
3. Vegito Blue
4. Gogeta super saiyan 4
5. Cooler
6. Broly dbz
7. Janemba
8. Vegeta super saiyan blue
9. Goku super saiyan blue
10. Goku Ultra Intstinct.
Base vegeta bro
@@aldahry4573 I haven’t bought base vegeta yet but I will give him a try once I buy him.
Baby vegeta, beerus and yamcha too are all very hard
18 should be on that list it takes pratice to peform them combos especially with 17 because mid combo u got to call him and then follow up or try to which will be a little harder if u are in that air.
Its not that hard at all
Def agree
Honestly not bad, of course it’s all opinion but I woulda went
1. Ginyu
2. Nappa
3. Roshi
4. Frieza
5. Majin Buu
6. Zamasu
7. Gotenks
8. Baby
9. Krillin
10. Piccolo
I think hit and videl have some stupid braindead tools to go along with their more difficult optimal stuff, A. Gohan is my 11, I agree he’s kinda hard just imo not harder than any of these. Nice list tho I respect your opinion
As a roshi main, im surpirsed ya ranked roshi so high
ayo it aint a lot of us out there fellow roshi mains rise up💯
That’s one of the reason Roshi is underplayed, he’s more difficult compared to someone like Vegito who’s better in every way and brain dead easy.
Imaging having to work your ass off to get a stylish looking combo; Just for the enemy Gogeta to take half your health with a auto combo that has anti air properties and one C assist.
Hmm thought cooler be here based on the amount of coolers we don’t see
After watching this video, I think I'm a masochist XD. I'm a main videl and I was thinking of getting into the team picolo and janemba. I guess it's just janemba XD
Great list. I knew nappa, ginyu, and gotenks had to be on the list.
Def them lol
I think kid buu takes certain specific knowledge to play😭
@@thekickback7735 I’ve played every character on this list and yea I think kid buu in like 11
This is why I play Tien smh
The hardest is Android 17
Ginyu is fun to play as
Obviously... DEFINITELY, it's my boy Gogeta, super hardcore
Basically my my whole team is hard to play with but I be smoke anyone that's gets on the sticks
piccolo is easy to use only thing hard is getting in like you stated but his combo timing is simple it might just be me it feels simple.
Which chars would you recommend for beginners/are easy to use?
Goku Black,Ssj Goku/Vegeta,Tien,UI Goku etc. I made a top 10 easiest list as well. ua-cam.com/video/Iw062h_W2o8/v-deo.html
Im kinda new to the game and ssgss vegeta worked out for me and ssgss gogeta
Im kinda new to the game and ssgss vegeta worked out for me and ssgss gogeta
Im kinda new to the game and ssgss vegeta worked out for me and ssgss gogeta
@@HitmanJJC ssgss gogeta is a little tough if you wanna play optimally.
Piccolo should be higher to about 4
suprised krillin isn't up here
Imo I think A Gohan is top 5
Buu mains got a W
Word lol
Tohan is one of the hardest if not the hardest charecter in the game
What's so hard about him?
No one could disagree with top 4
Word
i fee like teen gohan should replace buu and roshi should be number 1 but that's just me
Just replace Zamasu and Gotenks with Kid Buu and Freeza, and you've got yourself a list!! 😂😂
Beerus should be an honorable mention ngl
My top 5 hardest imo are
1. Gotenks(hardest character free imo)
2. Nappa
3. Ginyu
4. Base Goku
5. Base Vegeta/Blue Goku
Great video btw
Thx man
Can you explain base goku and vegeta? Blue goku I can understand but these two are pretty od in any circumstance. Goku more then vegeta especially since vegeta got power crept over time
@@35matthxw
Bro u really think blue goku is better than base vegeta
@@35matthxw Base Vegeta is hard to play cause you basically have to be perfect at all times. Base Goku has so many routes and rejumps its crazy and Blue Goku is the same as Base Vegeta
@@aldahry4573 nobody’s saying they’re better, we’re talking abt how hard they are to play.
I would say Yamcha is one of the easiest characters.
To use or actually win with? And I would have to disagree, especially when we have UI Goku and them fusion boys in the game running a muck.
baby has to be like #11 then 😂
Yea thinking bout him I should have put him in.
@@sontheboss i was waitin for him to pop up cus i been playin him lately🤣 he mad fun tbh. dope video btw 🔥
Two words: *Kid Buu*
I was worried that since 17 was on the thumbnail that he'd be in the video.
Thank god I was wrong (although Hit - while hard to master - is pretty easy to use).
Optimal Krillin is way more difficult than Gohan.
Hardest is roshi for me by far.
Tbh piccolo aint that hard but his neutral is atrocious and getting in and starting pressure is kinda hard
That’s why he’s on the list. His neutral forces good judgement and patience. And personally I think his optimal hellzone grenade routes are tough to master, took me a while to get them down consistently. His lvl 3 mix is also hard IMO. But his BnBs are simple and it’s pretty easy to mix with elbow and frametrap people trying to mash.
No trunks is crazy tk ex flip is a necessary to be a high level trunks player not many can do that
True, mastering the ex flip does take a while.
Master roshi, majin buu, hit, and nappa I have to disagree with but great video otherwise.
U don’t think Roshi is tough. Who do u think is top5 hardest
@@sontheboss Zamasu is already up there
No Broly or ui goku? Discredited
bad bait
@@hmad898 thanks captain obvious
You nappa and majin buu players terrify me
Hit?! Stop the cap
Roshi Top 1
There’s no way we are calling Hit and Piccolo hard characters LMFAOOOO
Hit is just a bit unorthadox I think compared to everyone else.
@@sontheboss I agree, hit is definitely a blue sheep compared to the whole cast
where is ui and lab coat ?
U gotta be trolling
I was gonna put them at 1 or 2 but it would have been too obvious 😂
@@sontheboss Oh ok understandable . everyone should just know their the most difficult 😂😉
@@benfish3406 obviously
strange there are almost no DLC on the list.. maybe they are all cheated 😅😅
I ain't trying to read.
Take hit off the list and put someone else like freiza
No Baby or Gogeta 4 despite being amongst the highest execution characters in the game. Meh.
Gogeta 4 is one of the easiest characters in the game. Baby however I do regret not putting him in after thinking about it.
I do gogeta 4 combos while im sleeping
Nice disagree with Gohan adult being difficult at all
His reverse beat combos are pretty hard, everything thing else is easy though.
@@sontheboss yea, what is that at lvl 3 or 5 now
@@bofygaming9672 lv 5
bro idk wtf any of this even means lmao
Zamasu top 1
Napa top 2
Guinyu top 3
Zamasu is easy, intentionally.