Don't kid yourselves, Oakland wouldn't put up a dime to fix Oracle or support the surrounding neighborhood. GSW left, Raiders left and the A's just develop great players to get big contracts somewhere else. The people of Oakland support their teams, the town of Oakland has not.
Blame it all on Mayor Libby Schaaf. She has no clue about public/private partnerships and the extra revenue the sports teams draw to support local businesses.
Actually Warriors and Raiders still owe the CIty of Oakland and the Alameda coliseum authority a lot of money for the remodel of both buildings that was never paid in full. Oakland is still in court trying to get paid...........So legally they could not and should not give these sports teams more money.....
Do you realise how messed up your thinking is, these sports teams earn millions of dollars and you expect the local government to cover the bills, like it’s their pleasure hosting them.
One important misconception in this vid is that the the fan base changed once the warriors moved. This is simply false - 70% of season tix holders from oracle bought their seats for chase. The demographics are actually the same. People leave chase earlier because parking and public transportation are more crowded in San Francisco. The notion that more Oakland residents went to warriors games when in Oakland has no factual basis. They’ve always been a Bay Area team.
Didn't the 49ers mover further away? as someone who doesn't live in that area I always thought the reaction to the "move" was exaggerated. Shit, if the New York Jets and Giants play in New Jersey, I dont think the warriors moving 11 miles is worth this level of discussion.
I’m from SF and I always considered them as a Bay Area team too. They used to play here in the cow palace in their early days. Golden state warriors sounds way better than Bay Area warriors
@@gillroygarlic3616 Did u know about Town Bizz City Situation??? But I think it stemmed from The City Situation of having Katy Perry & The icecapadedes take up Cow Palace w the cattle rather den Western Conference Champ S.F. / Golden State Warriors. Oops I 4got its The NBA Finals.!!
I miss going to games at Oracle. The fans in Oakland were diehard and faithful. Oracle had been selling out consistently since way before the Warriors became a legacy team
Well, now they are selling out at Chase, and it's a way nicer venue and also in a way safer place. I saw the Warriors in the late 60s play at the Cow Palace. Old type arena, had hockey and basketball, rodeos, circuses, concerts. It could have been the Fenway Park or Wrigley Field of the NBA by now had the Warriors continued to at least play a handful of games there all these years.
@@ldfreitas9437 Folks who are still nostalgic about Oracle haven't been to Chase yet. Anyone who has gone to a game knows what an improvement the move has been, particularly the safety issue you raised. Oracle was in the WORST neighborhood of Oakland right on the corner of Murder street and Rapist alley. On the other hand, the main San Francisco police station is 1-2 blocks from Chase, so there is very little neighborhood crime.
Dude you’re over exaggerating. I’ve been to several games at the Chase Center and was actually underwhelmed when I first went there. It is nice, but newer arenas like the new Clippers Arena will probably be much more state of the art. And the Oakland Arena was not “on the corner” of anything. It’s isolated from the surrounding neighborhoods by the BART station and the long pedestrian bridge on one side, and the 880 freeway on the other. Now if you wanna talk about a stadium that was ABSOLUTELY in the hood and directly across the street from one of the worst areas in SF, there’s Candlestick Park. THAT stadium was literally in the hood.
Lived in Oakland and Sacramento my whole life. You gotta realize almost all Northern Californians looked at this team as the whole bay areas team. SF , Oakland , East bay.
You're right. I was born/raised in San Francisco, and NEVER thought of the Warriors as an Oakland team or (now) San Francisco team. They've always been a Bay Area team. The 49ers, on the other hand, ARE a San Francisco team, even though the stadium is in Santa Clara.
One item you left out of your history of the team was that for a season in the early 70's the Warriors played eleven "home" games in San Diego, apparently gauging fan interest for a move south. Also, when the current ownership group bought the team San Francisco was immediately sought as a new home site. Plans for one of the piers to be developed were seriously pursued but neighborhood opposition prevented that project. The Warriors have been and will continue to be the Bay Area's team. Of course "money" and "business" enter into it. Pro sports is a very serious business. Maximizing revenue is key in being able to operate a team. Salaries for players and staff have to be paid and teams are looking to improve the "fan experience" all the time. I'm sure there were some east bay folks who didn't want to make the cross-bay trip anymore but the team at least is still in the region. It's not like the Raiders (and possible A's) situation where they left for Las Vegas. The Bay Area still has the Warriors and will have them for many years to come.
The Warriors move to San Francisco has sucked the loudness out of the crowd. It's such a different crowd, less diversity, it's like a wake up to gentrification at its finest unfortunately. Like Roaracle Arena games in Oakland were beyond epic and legendary, fun as hell and lively as can be! But in SF it's all these billionaires and CEO's that could give 2 craps about the Warriors when not on winning streaks(mainly there for the luxuries). It's a heartbreak but I'll still visit the Dubs in SF when Covid 19 #'s go down. In the mean time, the no fans thing is an advantage to the Warriors players/coaches before the weak 2020 gentrified/watered-down SF crowd brings the half-assed energy. Regardless, Oakland or SF, Dubs til' death!
I remember going to games at Oracle in Oakland and seeing every kind of human being on planet earth represented in the crowds and loving being a part of a real, SHARED experience. Every religious and non-religious background represented, every ethnicity and combination of ethnicities represented, every gender orientation represented. All sharing an experience. Chase is a great arena, but I’ve only been able to go once so far, and the people that I have seen who go there are mostly European descent, and I miss seeing people of Middle Eastern descent, or Hispanic, or Pacific Islanders, or Asian or African descent at the event, being part of something with me and I with them. Yes Chase still has some people representing most groups, but the numbers just aren’t the same, and that’s a loss that we all saw coming, and if you didn’t, you weren’t really thinking things through. As great a place as Chase is, it didn’t sustain the one thing that really makes the Bay Area special, all of it’s people living together
Not to be that guy but Hispanic is European, Hispanic means people/culture related to Spain. Spain is very much part of of Europe, geographically and culturally.
Huh? Did you go to oracle to join the UN, to pray/worship or watch basketball? What's wrong with you bro - you pay all that money to watch Steph and klay, and you focus on the race of the fans in the crowd?
The interesting part… Oakland just didn’t lose the Warriors. Lost the Raiders & Warriors with the possibility to lose the A’s too if Oakland isn’t careful.
I think once fans are allowed at Chase again, the Warriors have their full roster and fans will know the right public transportation to take to get to and out of Chase (a lot of people complained about that as well, even though there are more public transportation options to get to Chase, as opposed to Oracle where you really just had BART), Chase will rock like Oracle did. But yes, overall I like the move. Yeah, it was a business move, but arguably it was move that needed to happen and it made sense. Oracle was getting older, and who knows how much longer the Warriors would've been able to keep playing there as it was already one of the older arenas in the NBA. Even Adam Silver admitted during one of the Warriors Finals appearances that the Warriors needed a new arena, which kind of further justified the Warriors decision move to SF. Also, if the Warriors would've stayed at Oracle, who knows if the Warriors would've eventually had to deal with the issues the A's and Raiders dealt with in Oakland for many years, and for the A's they are still dealing with regarding trying to get a new stadium built there. But yes, not to bash Oracle, Oracle was great and the Warriors had a great thing there and they ended their tenure at Oracle and Oakland with a bang winning 3 NBA titles in 5 seasons, but it will be cool to see what they can do at Chase, and make new memories at Chase and in SF! It's almost like a new chapter in Warriors franchise history!
man also just imagine the new culture at thrive city outside chase center like if we make it deep in playoffs or finals imagne watch parties outside it would be lit like bucks fans did in deer district thats one thing oracle didnt have and also warrior fans can still drive to sf and watch games outside its no problem
Basically Oakland did a thing where inflation was going up meaning they needed more money, so what did they do? They got rid of the “Oakland Raiders” They got rid of the “GS Warriors from playing at the Oracle aka the Roaracle, probably one of the loudest consistent fan bases” and 3 They’re about to get rid of the “Oakland A’s” leaving them with nothing at all.
This is all wrong. Raiders left because Vegas financed a new stadium and Oakland could not afford to build Davis a new stadium. The Warriors left because they built their own stadium that they now own (Chase) so they don't have to rent Oracle from the City of Oakland anymore. Now they own their own $2BB stadium. The A's are leaving because of a new stadium as well. They want to build one on the waterfront, but it looks like that's not going to happen for whatever reason. Looks like the A's might be going to vegas.
I love Oakland man.. raise there most of my life it’s home. But the city didn’t put any effort to keep the teams here and now the A’s are on the verge of moving too.. so if you ask me each teams are just fed up.
As a resident of Oakland, i think what gets under reported is that the Warriors did attempt to get an arena in downtown Oakland. That eventually turned into hosting. Never underestimate the shenanigans of the Oakland Coliseum complex being owned by both the city of Oakland and the county of Alameda at that time. Thats many layers of politics.
Where is your proof? I know the baseball team tried to get a stadium downtown when Brown was mayor. I did not hear anything about the Warriors. I think you have the teams mixed up. Born and raised in Oakland.
@@maloney7461 jweezy78 is 100% right. And the teams he mentioned are not mixed up. The city unfortunately is notorious for not figuring out how to create new infrastracture for teams and keeping them. Theyre currently struggling with the As, and as far as I can see, theyre on the verge of losing them too. Born/raised/reside/work for the city of Oakland. edit: Work for the city but not in politics
@@OneSmellyTaco OK, thanks. I really hope the A's stay. Bringing back the Raiders under that financial plan has been brutal for Oakland. If I am correct there is still an outstanding balance that the city of Oakland has to pay for the Raiders return.
Additional context , check the Joe Lacob interview from the point forward podcast with André Iguodala around 24:30 mark , Lacob addresses this topic and confirmed 5 attempted meetings with the mayor. Based on timing I’m pretty sure he’s talking about Mayor Quan but he doesn’t mention her by name
It is very inconvenient for me to drive to the city and deal with the traffic and parking. I do not think I will go to the games as frequently as I used to in Oakland.
As an Oakland fan I'm sad, but I don't take the move personally. The Warriors fan base is spread throughout the Bay, so I don't blame them for chasing the most lucrative of those fans. I'm far more upset about the Raiders (who screwed over Oakland taxpayers for Mt. Davis) and the A's (almost doubling their ticket & parking prices while trading away fan favorites and openly flirting with Las Vegas).
although they have other events, chase center is built for basketball. not the best acoustics for concerts. oracle was truly special.... the warriors and the A's have magic in oakland.
The teams are special, but the venues in which they play are not. Both the coliseum and stadium are old, uncomfortable, lack good amenities and need to be torn down and build better housing in the area. The last thing Oakland needs is to finance a new stadium for a sports team. they need to spend the little money they have on more cops, more housing, more homeless programs, more street/grafitti clean ups and more drug programs. The city is literally falling apart, and basketball and baseball are not the answers.
I've rubbed shoulders with Oakland local politicians several times. Those running the city are inexperienced, manipulative, and petty. They once shut down a charter school that was focusing on quality education for kids who made an effort, it had a graduation rate of over 80% and 40% going to college. The city of Oakland shut it down, because "It wasn't fair" but really it was making the other school look bad.
The true fans aren't the wealthiest, they are the one that truly love the game. Oakland has more true and native Californians while San Francisco has more transplants who can afford tickets but are devoted to the team.
I think that this video coming out in 2020 played a big role in why they said that Chase had a worse vibe compared to Oracle. It was their first season (and one of their worst seasons), so the energy would naturally be lower. I think the 2022 victory was the season where Chase began to feel more like home for the Warriors.
Same here. Now that the Raiders are gone and probably won’t come back to Oakland ever again, and the A’s might be moving, hopefully the Warriors move back. Probably the main reason why I became a fan.
The vast majority of the games the Warriors played between 1962 and 1966 were in San Francisco. In fact, all the 1965-66 season the home games were at the San Francisco Civic Auditorium, not the Cow Palace. They had a few games now and then at the San Jose Civic and Oakland Civic between 1962 and 1965, even at the University of San Francisco gym. Most of the games were at the Cow Palace overall until 1971, and half the games were at the Cow Palace between 1966 and 1971. Now the Warriors have won an NBA Championship in San Francisco in 2022, and they sold out most of the games in 2021-22!
Chase center did not have the same energy or “thrill” like oracle arena! They should just rebuilt oracle and have two arenas to play in- commute and parking was hard in chase center as well. I miss oracle arena :(
At some point in time, they were bound to move to a new arena. And they already did. Now if you were a real fan of the team, you would do anything, and I mean ANYTHING, to watch games at the new arena since 11 miles is not that far.
@@ricardoescobar7713 Joe and Peter bought the team so they could make $$$. It’s the NBA, it’s a business. Also Oakland didn’t even try to fight to keep them? Didn’t see any effort come from the city, nothing. Same with the Raiders, and pretty soon with the A’s if they can’t figure out that Howard Terminal Ballpark. 🤷♂️ No one wants to play in Oakland, and clearly Oakland doesn’t want a team to stay.
@@dancsaldana No Energy at Chase Center for A Reason... The Fans are not Lit as in Oakland. 6th man is gone. What Good is the move if home court Fans Leave showing the players they are not loyal. Almost Luke A Gold Digger. Yet Greed is what you advocate for
Money hungry owners wanted their own arena because they felt like they were paying rent to play at Oracle arena but you can't blame the city of Oakland for keeping their venue
Actually the complex was owned by both Oakland and the county of Alameda. If the Warriors don’t build and own their own arena, they don’t get the increased value and cash flow. They are currently 147 million in luxury taxes this year alone (above the actual salaries) no way can they afford to keep Steph, Klay, Dray, Wiggs being content as a renter in Oakland
Silicon valley is the silicon valley for a reason... Now it's one of the best places to live even though cost of living is through the roof... Ppl are willing to sacrifice just to live in silicon valley... Same goes for the GSW franchise, in able to be the best NBA team(business) in the league they have to make it the best and that's SF plain and simple... SF has so much to offer, no matter who, what, or where SF is one of the most majestic city to live in
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Next video will be how San Francisco lost the 49ers to San Jose, I guess? I live in Oakland. Chase Center is closer to me than Oracle. This is stupid, they've always been the Bay's team.
Long story short, “Hey, it’s not personal, Oakland. We know that you’ve held us downs for 47 seasons. We know that you cheered us on when you had every reason not to. Yeah, we know that for many of you, it will cost two weeks income for tickets to games now, but it’ll be worth it.”
@@Joshuaeway03 it’s not easy to get to “ on time” especially for 6pm games now that there’s traffic in the city again, likely better crowd start during weekend games
This movie was about social environment, not money. I like the guy that created this video though because he was honest and saying that it isn’t clear if they’re really making more money, which I believe they aren’t. I’ve worked in transportation for over two decades the Silicon Valley/San Francisco fan base aren’t from here they grew up rooting for different teams and they rather stay home in their $2 million condo and watch the game than spend $500 bucks on a ticket ( I’ve been told that multiple times; I’m not spending that). The Warriors actually have a $25 ticket List during the season “ Google it if you don’t believe me” The last 7 to 10 years you could never get an oracle for $25 not even in the nose bleeds. Once again this was about social environment not money.
So we not going to talk about kezar stadium. What Y'ALL tryna do rewrite history... as a native of San Francisco since 1987 your video is not 100% true is good for a video but try again
Well back in the late 70s 80s the warriors were playing in San Francisco at the Cow Palace and had jerseys that says San Francisco so they were the San Francisco warriors back in the day until they found an arena which was in Oakland but it don't matter them being in Oakland or San Francisco being from the Bay Area born and raised we only have one basketball team and so everybody in that area came together and Rudy for that one team but people from San Francisco when it came to the other teams like that 49ers and Giants that was a fanbase Oakland A's Oakland Raiders was the city of Oakland fanbase so yeah you don't matter if they were still in Oakland or what you know that's my team I love the Golden State Warriors forever
I think its just a disgusting business move that freezes out the real Warriors fans. Something could have been done in Oakland. Not to mention you have many arena workers in Oakland that are now either out of work or have to commute across the bay to get to games. Foolishness. There is more than enough money in the Bay area for the team to stay and prosper in Oakland. Its not the 1990s anymore.
This may have to do with the same reason the Raiders left, and the state of California didn't want to lose the championship team when they just wants the Raiders to Los Vegas. The fact is at Oracle Arena was part of the oakland-alameda sports complex which was all built in 1962, which makes the arena out of date compared to today's standards seeing the fact that most NBA arenas are much larger than what they were back in 1960, and have far more box seats. Plus I don't think the fan base is much different, because and 11 miles difference would have been well within their fan market, meaning a great view of Warriors fans are from San Francisco. Also most teams don't compete for hardcore fans they compete for sales within a given market which can spend anywhere from a single city to several US states. TV contracts are what teams care about the most, and how much money they can make off the market. Doesn't matter how long since they became so long as the team is making money. This is why shity NFL teams that win 2 a year like the Browns can stay in the same city for years, because people still watch the Browns and buy their merchandise even with year of losing, and the Browns will still never leave Cleveland.
It’s definitely not “hardcore fans issue” I’m from Oakland and I’ve been a fan of the warriors since the 04 season I was lucky enough to go to many regular season games playoffs games finals tailgates etc at oracle,I was lucky enough to go to some games over here at the chase center,now let me tell you something “11 miles” may not seem much but in reality getting out that place is light traveling from the earth to the moon because there’s so much traffic in that small area,trust me I’d love to stay but damn if I’m sitting in traffic for 2hrs when I can listen to the game on SirusXM on the way home. Chase center is nice as I got to roam around for a bit but the energy isn’t as tuff as roaracle it wasn’t as loud and there are a lot of new warriors fans who are kids just sitting on there phones so it will never match up to those old days at the oracle palace
Reading the comments one thing is clear, people don't think 'rationally' and act 'emotionally'. When you run a multi-billion dollar franchise, you can't think 'emotionally'. The Warriors have 3 max players. From this season (21'-22') alone, they have another max player in Poole and a potential max contract in Kuminga (and maybe Wiseman). To add to all of that, they need to pay luxury tax AND account for state tax. A billion dollar franchise doesn't mean you get every peny of the billion dollars in hand. The Warriors need money if they want to keep up with the likes of LA, NY and Boston. Like Shaq once said about his first paycheck, he bought a 500K Merc for his parents and then spent the rest on himself till he was told by his agent that he was broke and could not afford it because the million dollars salary meant a good portion of it goes for taxes so he wasn't truly a millionaire.
For entity to grow and evolve it has to adapt to necessary change. Look what happened with BLOCKBUSTER(could of bought netflix for cheap couple of millions) and KODAK(original company to bring digital camera)
feel like oracle has the better atmosphere. people stand up when the splash bro shoot threes even before it goes in or it misses. chase doesnt have that. it dont feel lively
1st off me livin n Tha mist of it all being a Oaktown Bizz cat n being 80s baby know Nathan but Tha Oakland Alameda County Coliseum Arena it was Tha Shiznit!!!
I think it sucked but it’s still in Cali so we good. Oakland Cali we had you over the top but now it’s time to San Fran back to the top to compete with Seattle NW
Yeah 96-97 n San Jose yea n den when dey came back ta da Town Sprewell All-Time GSW Hoop great lightweight checked the coach pulse. Most Oaktown Bizz move n sports ever n my lifetime. Some folks ain't even know where Golden State was! Even though that is their ignorance
Been to Chase Center 4 times it just doesn't feel right LoL I don't know it ain't OAKLAND!!! Parking sucks everything is beyond over priced getting out of there after a game sucks getting there sucks etc etc!!!! LoL
SAN FRANCISCO IS A CURSE , Warriors will be forgotten and put into obvlivion again for many years and the glorious day they had will not to come until they return to OAKLAND . OAKLAND is their land .,a champion land .
Hate the move. Even as a warriors fan. The crowd reactions was everything in watching warriors games in person and even on the tv. I know that they don’t care as much about the crowd as the money, but I do feel the crowd dying out on the move definitely makes it quite a lot less enjoyable! I think that may be part of the reason why fans are leaving early. Also, Fans in Oakland may not be the happiest either that they have to drive 11 more miles which is not that close. Sure it’s not horrible, but it’s a pretty drastic change if you are from Oakland.
Don't kid yourselves, Oakland wouldn't put up a dime to fix Oracle or support the surrounding neighborhood. GSW left, Raiders left and the A's just develop great players to get big contracts somewhere else. The people of Oakland support their teams, the town of Oakland has not.
I agree fa sho but do u remember Warriors on Broadway n City Center?? If dey still had Dat place when dey started Ballin itta been off Tha 🪝
Blame it all on Mayor Libby Schaaf. She has no clue about public/private partnerships and the extra revenue the sports teams draw to support local businesses.
Actually Warriors and Raiders still owe the CIty of Oakland and the Alameda coliseum authority a lot of money for the remodel of both buildings that was never paid in full. Oakland is still in court trying to get paid...........So legally they could not and should not give these sports teams more money.....
Do you realise how messed up your thinking is, these sports teams earn millions of dollars and you expect the local government to cover the bills, like it’s their pleasure hosting them.
Hey! They’re busier letting felons shoot up stores and homeless camp out in front of the courthouses
One important misconception in this vid is that the the fan base changed once the warriors moved. This is simply false - 70% of season tix holders from oracle bought their seats for chase. The demographics are actually the same. People leave chase earlier because parking and public transportation are more crowded in San Francisco. The notion that more Oakland residents went to warriors games when in Oakland has no factual basis. They’ve always been a Bay Area team.
Didn't the 49ers mover further away? as someone who doesn't live in that area I always thought the reaction to the "move" was exaggerated. Shit, if the New York Jets and Giants play in New Jersey, I dont think the warriors moving 11 miles is worth this level of discussion.
Nah the crowd is boof compared to how loud it would get in oracle
@@cristophertapia9088 never heard the word boof, searched it up and now im regretting it
@@farcry8025 Bay area slang, you must be either old or not from around here
@@aidanboutabag7465 couple hundred miles north. some ones got to change the meaning on google
Interesting stuff dude, best memories still from oracle though
@Doffy Donquixote I agree. Oracle was great, but time to make new memories at Chase!
49ers belong to sf , raiders belong to Oakland (not Vegas or LA) but warriors are Bay Area. I wish they played in cow palace.
Even being from Oakland I didn't imagine them as a local team, simply one from the bay as a whole.
I’m from SF and I always considered them as a Bay Area team too. They used to play here in the cow palace in their early days. Golden state warriors sounds way better than Bay Area warriors
@@gillroygarlic3616 Did u know about Town Bizz City Situation??? But I think it stemmed from The City Situation of having Katy Perry & The icecapadedes take up Cow Palace w the cattle rather den Western Conference Champ S.F. / Golden State Warriors. Oops I 4got its The NBA Finals.!!
@@jonjonbailey4314 I didn’t know that. I grew up by cow palace; I hope they renovate and don’t tear it down for a mall or ant box housing
@@gillroygarlic3616 I saw AC⚡️DC there twice in the 80s…wow, it was pretty worn down then. Awesome, too, though.
@@gillroygarlic3616 Hopefully dey don't do da same ta Coliseum. Cow Palace , Oakland Coliseum r CA Landmarks
That Oracle crowd was no joke. It was a true home court advantage.
I miss going to games at Oracle. The fans in Oakland were diehard and faithful. Oracle had been selling out consistently since way before the Warriors became a legacy team
Well, now they are selling out at Chase, and it's a way nicer venue and also in a way safer place. I saw the Warriors in the late 60s play at the Cow Palace. Old type arena, had hockey and basketball, rodeos, circuses, concerts. It could have been the Fenway Park or Wrigley Field of the NBA by now had the Warriors continued to at least play a handful of games there all these years.
@@ldfreitas9437 Folks who are still nostalgic about Oracle haven't been to Chase yet. Anyone who has gone to a game knows what an improvement the move has been, particularly the safety issue you raised. Oracle was in the WORST neighborhood of Oakland right on the corner of Murder street and Rapist alley. On the other hand, the main San Francisco police station is 1-2 blocks from Chase, so there is very little neighborhood crime.
Dude you’re over exaggerating. I’ve been to several games at the Chase Center and was actually underwhelmed when I first went there. It is nice, but newer arenas like the new Clippers Arena will probably be much more state of the art.
And the Oakland Arena was not “on the corner” of anything. It’s isolated from the surrounding neighborhoods by the BART station and the long pedestrian bridge on one side, and the 880 freeway on the other. Now if you wanna talk about a stadium that was ABSOLUTELY in the hood and directly across the street from one of the worst areas in SF, there’s Candlestick Park. THAT stadium was literally in the hood.
Lived in Oakland and Sacramento my whole life. You gotta realize almost all Northern Californians looked at this team as the whole bay areas team. SF , Oakland , East bay.
You're right. I was born/raised in San Francisco, and NEVER thought of the Warriors as an Oakland team or (now) San Francisco team. They've always been a Bay Area team. The 49ers, on the other hand, ARE a San Francisco team, even though the stadium is in Santa Clara.
One item you left out of your history of the team was that for a season in the early 70's the Warriors played eleven "home" games in San Diego, apparently gauging fan interest for a move south. Also, when the current ownership group bought the team San Francisco was immediately sought as a new home site. Plans for one of the piers to be developed were seriously pursued but neighborhood opposition prevented that project. The Warriors have been and will continue to be the Bay Area's team. Of course "money" and "business" enter into it. Pro sports is a very serious business. Maximizing revenue is key in being able to operate a team. Salaries for players and staff have to be paid and teams are looking to improve the "fan experience" all the time. I'm sure there were some east bay folks who didn't want to make the cross-bay trip anymore but the team at least is still in the region. It's not like the Raiders (and possible A's) situation where they left for Las Vegas. The Bay Area still has the Warriors and will have them for many years to come.
The Warriors move to San Francisco has sucked the loudness out of the crowd. It's such a different crowd, less diversity, it's like a wake up to gentrification at its finest unfortunately. Like Roaracle Arena games in Oakland were beyond epic and legendary, fun as hell and lively as can be! But in SF it's all these billionaires and CEO's that could give 2 craps about the Warriors when not on winning streaks(mainly there for the luxuries). It's a heartbreak but I'll still visit the Dubs in SF when Covid 19 #'s go down. In the mean time, the no fans thing is an advantage to the Warriors players/coaches before the weak 2020 gentrified/watered-down SF crowd brings the half-assed energy. Regardless, Oakland or SF, Dubs til' death!
Wish they would come back
nonsense
Wasn't the move, it's the injury plagued seasons since. Open your ears this year.
@@LaborRevolution209 ears open it’s pretty tame
2022 Chase playoff crowd says otherwise
I remember going to games at Oracle in Oakland and seeing every kind of human being on planet earth represented in the crowds and loving being a part of a real, SHARED experience. Every religious and non-religious background represented, every ethnicity and combination of ethnicities represented, every gender orientation represented. All sharing an experience. Chase is a great arena, but I’ve only been able to go once so far, and the people that I have seen who go there are mostly European descent, and I miss seeing people of Middle Eastern descent, or Hispanic, or Pacific Islanders, or Asian or African descent at the event, being part of something with me and I with them. Yes Chase still has some people representing most groups, but the numbers just aren’t the same, and that’s a loss that we all saw coming, and if you didn’t, you weren’t really thinking things through.
As great a place as Chase is, it didn’t sustain the one thing that really makes the Bay Area special, all of it’s people living together
Not to be that guy but Hispanic is European, Hispanic means people/culture related to Spain. Spain is very much part of of Europe, geographically and culturally.
Huh? Did you go to oracle to join the UN, to pray/worship or watch basketball? What's wrong with you bro - you pay all that money to watch Steph and klay, and you focus on the race of the fans in the crowd?
@@charlesfowler4308 Hispanic is also Latin America, and Latin American culture is quite different from Spanish culture
(Warriors fan here) just Wanna say I’m here before you blow up bro content is good 💯🐐
The interesting part… Oakland just didn’t lose the Warriors. Lost the Raiders & Warriors with the possibility to lose the A’s too if Oakland isn’t careful.
they lost the a's
Oracle gone be missed
I think once fans are allowed at Chase again, the Warriors have their full roster and fans will know the right public transportation to take to get to and out of Chase (a lot of people complained about that as well, even though there are more public transportation options to get to Chase, as opposed to Oracle where you really just had BART), Chase will rock like Oracle did.
But yes, overall I like the move. Yeah, it was a business move, but arguably it was move that needed to happen and it made sense. Oracle was getting older, and who knows how much longer the Warriors would've been able to keep playing there as it was already one of the older arenas in the NBA. Even Adam Silver admitted during one of the Warriors Finals appearances that the Warriors needed a new arena, which kind of further justified the Warriors decision move to SF. Also, if the Warriors would've stayed at Oracle, who knows if the Warriors would've eventually had to deal with the issues the A's and Raiders dealt with in Oakland for many years, and for the A's they are still dealing with regarding trying to get a new stadium built there.
But yes, not to bash Oracle, Oracle was great and the Warriors had a great thing there and they ended their tenure at Oracle and Oakland with a bang winning 3 NBA titles in 5 seasons, but it will be cool to see what they can do at Chase, and make new memories at Chase and in SF! It's almost like a new chapter in Warriors franchise history!
man also just imagine the new culture at thrive city outside chase center like if we make it deep in playoffs or finals imagne watch parties outside it would be lit like bucks fans did in deer district thats one thing oracle didnt have and also warrior fans can still drive to sf and watch games outside its no problem
That first new memory is five games away
@@ImEmpath thrive city is alive and ready for the finals
@@bhsninjl1477 yep saw that I hope it’s crowded like deer district
Nope you were wrong.
Now that warriors had made the finals in 2022 we will see what the chase center brings in.😁😁
We lost game one hopefully game 2 will be different
Warriors are 2022 champs
Basically Oakland did a thing where inflation was going up meaning they needed more money, so what did they do? They got rid of the “Oakland Raiders” They got rid of the “GS Warriors from playing at the Oracle aka the Roaracle, probably one of the loudest consistent fan bases” and 3 They’re about to get rid of the “Oakland A’s” leaving them with nothing at all.
Oracle was so close to me sucks
This is all wrong. Raiders left because Vegas financed a new stadium and Oakland could not afford to build Davis a new stadium. The Warriors left because they built their own stadium that they now own (Chase) so they don't have to rent Oracle from the City of Oakland anymore. Now they own their own $2BB stadium. The A's are leaving because of a new stadium as well. They want to build one on the waterfront, but it looks like that's not going to happen for whatever reason. Looks like the A's might be going to vegas.
Oakland politicians SUCK
city council 👎🏼
I love Oakland man.. raise there most of my life it’s home. But the city didn’t put any effort to keep the teams here and now the A’s are on the verge of moving too.. so if you ask me each teams are just fed up.
As a resident of Oakland, i think what gets under reported is that the Warriors did attempt to get an arena in downtown Oakland. That eventually turned into hosting. Never underestimate the shenanigans of the Oakland Coliseum complex being owned by both the city of Oakland and the county of Alameda at that time. Thats many layers of politics.
Where is your proof? I know the baseball team tried to get a stadium downtown when Brown was mayor. I did not hear anything about the Warriors. I think you have the teams mixed up. Born and raised in Oakland.
@@maloney7461 jweezy78 is 100% right. And the teams he mentioned are not mixed up. The city unfortunately is notorious for not figuring out how to create new infrastracture for teams and keeping them. Theyre currently struggling with the As, and as far as I can see, theyre on the verge of losing them too. Born/raised/reside/work for the city of Oakland.
edit: Work for the city but not in politics
@@OneSmellyTaco OK, thanks. I really hope the A's stay. Bringing back the Raiders under that financial plan has been brutal for Oakland. If I am correct there is still an outstanding balance that the city of Oakland has to pay for the Raiders return.
Additional context , check the Joe Lacob interview from the point forward podcast with André Iguodala around 24:30 mark , Lacob addresses this topic and confirmed 5 attempted meetings with the mayor. Based on timing I’m pretty sure he’s talking about Mayor Quan but he doesn’t mention her by name
It is very inconvenient for me to drive to the city and deal with the traffic and parking. I do not think I will go to the games as frequently as I used to in Oakland.
As an Oakland fan I'm sad, but I don't take the move personally. The Warriors fan base is spread throughout the Bay, so I don't blame them for chasing the most lucrative of those fans. I'm far more upset about the Raiders (who screwed over Oakland taxpayers for Mt. Davis) and the A's (almost doubling their ticket & parking prices while trading away fan favorites and openly flirting with Las Vegas).
Owners fault
although they have other events, chase center is built for basketball. not the best acoustics for concerts.
oracle was truly special.... the warriors and the A's have magic in oakland.
The teams are special, but the venues in which they play are not. Both the coliseum and stadium are old, uncomfortable, lack good amenities and need to be torn down and build better housing in the area. The last thing Oakland needs is to finance a new stadium for a sports team. they need to spend the little money they have on more cops, more housing, more homeless programs, more street/grafitti clean ups and more drug programs. The city is literally falling apart, and basketball and baseball are not the answers.
The warriors represent the whole of Bay Area, i think it’s pretty clear no matter where their home in the bay is.
Oracle arena and oakland will always have a place in our hearts but they needed a change.
I've rubbed shoulders with Oakland local politicians several times. Those running the city are inexperienced, manipulative, and petty. They once shut down a charter school that was focusing on quality education for kids who made an effort, it had a graduation rate of over 80% and 40% going to college. The city of Oakland shut it down, because "It wasn't fair" but really it was making the other school look bad.
wokeness you have to love it
Aaaand one year later and the NBA is the warriors world again
Missing that Oakland energy!
As long as the team is winning, it will sell out, if not, wont sell out
The true fans aren't the wealthiest, they are the one that truly love the game. Oakland has more true and native Californians while San Francisco has more transplants who can afford tickets but are devoted to the team.
Hate It, it’s nothing like playing in the town
Im new to nba and can see that Oracle was far better.
Yeah the capacity to oracle is 19,596 while chase is only 18,064
its a smart move by management. sf is a big tourist spot and warriors are now popular around the world.
They just won again champions 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 2022
I think that this video coming out in 2020 played a big role in why they said that Chase had a worse vibe compared to Oracle. It was their first season (and one of their worst seasons), so the energy would naturally be lower. I think the 2022 victory was the season where Chase began to feel more like home for the Warriors.
2:05 Ahhhh the 70s, a simpler time where ur allowed to chief butts in the crowd lolol
I hope soon that the Golden State warriors will go back to Oakland
Same
Same here. Now that the Raiders are gone and probably won’t come back to Oakland ever again, and the A’s might be moving, hopefully the Warriors move back. Probably the main reason why I became a fan.
Same bro
Cow Palace is in Daly City, not SF.
The vast majority of the games the Warriors played between 1962 and 1966 were in San Francisco. In fact, all the 1965-66 season the home games were at the San Francisco Civic Auditorium, not the Cow Palace. They had a few games now and then at the San Jose Civic and Oakland Civic between 1962 and 1965, even at the University of San Francisco gym. Most of the games were at the Cow Palace overall until 1971, and half the games were at the Cow Palace between 1966 and 1971. Now the Warriors have won an NBA Championship in San Francisco in 2022, and they sold out most of the games in 2021-22!
Chase center did not have the same energy or “thrill” like oracle arena! They should just rebuilt oracle and have two arenas to play in- commute and parking was hard in chase center as well. I miss oracle arena :(
Loved going to warrior games in Oracle. But not going to lie that I like that the new stadium is practically a few minutes drive for me.
Isn’t it just gentrification? Rich people probably didn’t want to go to Oracle because of the distance?
Oakland has PLENTY of gentrifiers. It wasn’t that.
This video did not age well.
But I'm not surprised.
At some point in time, they were bound to move to a new arena. And they already did. Now if you were a real fan of the team, you would do anything, and I mean ANYTHING, to watch games at the new arena since 11 miles is not that far.
Wait the warriors showed no loyalty by leaving Oakland, but if I get mad we are not loyal ? Doesn’t make sense
@@ricardoescobar7713 and what did Oakland do to try to keep the Warriors? Absolutely nothing. Loyalty goes both ways.
@@dancsaldana Joe and Peter bought the team with intentions to move them to San Francisco. They never even gave Oakland a chance.
@@ricardoescobar7713 Joe and Peter bought the team so they could make $$$. It’s the NBA, it’s a business.
Also Oakland didn’t even try to fight to keep them? Didn’t see any effort come from the city, nothing.
Same with the Raiders, and pretty soon with the A’s if they can’t figure out that Howard Terminal Ballpark. 🤷♂️ No one wants to play in Oakland, and clearly Oakland doesn’t want a team to stay.
@@dancsaldana No Energy at Chase Center for A Reason... The Fans are not Lit as in Oakland. 6th man is gone. What Good is the move if home court Fans Leave showing the players they are not loyal. Almost Luke A Gold Digger. Yet Greed is what you advocate for
That what they get more money less people going to come what do they think or who do they think we are the one percent
Money hungry owners wanted their own arena because they felt like they were paying rent to play at Oracle arena but you can't blame the city of Oakland for keeping their venue
Actually the complex was owned by both Oakland and the county of Alameda. If the Warriors don’t build and own their own arena, they don’t get the increased value and cash flow. They are currently 147 million in luxury taxes this year alone (above the actual salaries) no way can they afford to keep Steph, Klay, Dray, Wiggs being content as a renter in Oakland
Silicon valley is the silicon valley for a reason... Now it's one of the best places to live even though cost of living is through the roof... Ppl are willing to sacrifice just to live in silicon valley... Same goes for the GSW franchise, in able to be the best NBA team(business) in the league they have to make it the best and that's SF plain and simple... SF has so much to offer, no matter who, what, or where SF is one of the most majestic city to live in
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Warriors are the only team that represent the entire bay area
They need back play 10 games in season in oakland s frisco1962 -1971 oakland 1971-2019 from 2019 in frisco
Next video will be how San Francisco lost the 49ers to San Jose, I guess?
I live in Oakland. Chase Center is closer to me than Oracle. This is stupid, they've always been the Bay's team.
Long story short,
“Hey, it’s not personal, Oakland. We know that you’ve held us downs for 47 seasons. We know that you cheered us on when you had every reason not to. Yeah, we know that for many of you, it will cost two weeks income for tickets to games now, but it’ll be worth it.”
Locals always saw they as a Bay Area team anyways. Never a specific city. Anyone who grew up here would tell you that.
Welcome to SF! Loved! 🥳🤗
Love the warriors and I love the eastbay San Francisco fans r alot different from. My eastbay fans we r diehard fans
The best thing ever
Warrior never made it back to the playoffs after they left Oakland this move was the about owners no attendance problem
Even if the move was close
@@alijaharmyreacts6838 Fans Are Old Senior citizens we have no Fan base Have you seen the Playoffs
The Fans are left in the Regular Season
@@Joshuaeway03 it’s not easy to get to “ on time” especially for 6pm games now that there’s traffic in the city again, likely better crowd start during weekend games
No matter how Oakland lost them just know we got three rings out of them…
actually 4 rings.....you forgot about Rick Berry's Warriors back in 1975....they were in Oakland back then.
@@E.H.Tatman facts
This movie was about social environment, not money. I like the guy that created this video though because he was honest and saying that it isn’t clear if they’re really making more money, which I believe they aren’t. I’ve worked in transportation for over two decades the Silicon Valley/San Francisco fan base aren’t from here they grew up rooting for different teams and they rather stay home in their $2 million condo and watch the game than spend $500 bucks on a ticket ( I’ve been told that multiple times; I’m not spending that). The Warriors actually have a $25 ticket List during the season “ Google it if you don’t believe me” The last 7 to 10 years you could never get an oracle for $25 not even in the nose bleeds. Once again this was about social environment not money.
meanwhile me who though oakland was a sponsor
Dude imagine a UFC event at chase center omg that would be insane
wokeness doesn't like masculinity
Best move ever!!!
So we not going to talk about kezar stadium. What Y'ALL tryna do rewrite history... as a native of San Francisco since 1987 your video is not 100% true is good for a video but try again
Dope video
Like the 49s of San Francisco playing in Santa Clara
They should have never left SF in the first place. Glad they are back in SF. Hopefully they call them the San Francisco Warriors again
Don’t matter!! Go warriors
The warriors are where they belong.....in San Francisco..... money talkS
Well back in the late 70s 80s the warriors were playing in San Francisco at the Cow Palace and had jerseys that says San Francisco so they were the San Francisco warriors back in the day until they found an arena which was in Oakland but it don't matter them being in Oakland or San Francisco being from the Bay Area born and raised we only have one basketball team and so everybody in that area came together and Rudy for that one team but people from San Francisco when it came to the other teams like that 49ers and Giants that was a fanbase Oakland A's Oakland Raiders was the city of Oakland fanbase so yeah you don't matter if they were still in Oakland or what you know that's my team I love the Golden State Warriors forever
Chase Center is NOT THE SAME. Did you see the fans the other day Game 1 of the Finals?
Damn didn’t know they only moved 11 miles
I think its just a disgusting business move that freezes out the real Warriors fans. Something could have been done in Oakland. Not to mention you have many arena workers in Oakland that are now either out of work or have to commute across the bay to get to games. Foolishness. There is more than enough money in the Bay area for the team to stay and prosper in Oakland. Its not the 1990s anymore.
Shut up and get ya weight up 😂😩
This may have to do with the same reason the Raiders left, and the state of California didn't want to lose the championship team when they just wants the Raiders to Los Vegas.
The fact is at Oracle Arena was part of the oakland-alameda sports complex which was all built in 1962, which makes the arena out of date compared to today's standards seeing the fact that most NBA arenas are much larger than what they were back in 1960, and have far more box seats.
Plus I don't think the fan base is much different, because and 11 miles difference would have been well within their fan market, meaning a great view of Warriors fans are from San Francisco.
Also most teams don't compete for hardcore fans they compete for sales within a given market which can spend anywhere from a single city to several US states. TV contracts are what teams care about the most, and how much money they can make off the market. Doesn't matter how long since they became so long as the team is making money. This is why shity NFL teams that win 2 a year like the Browns can stay in the same city for years, because people still watch the Browns and buy their merchandise even with year of losing, and the Browns will still never leave Cleveland.
Should have stayed in Oaktown, but of course money always takes precedent over the wishes of the fans.
Dude... It's still the bay
I wonder how this video holds up today. Did they make that money this year?
Their in the finals now
Oracle was an old stadium tho that’s why they transferred tho..
MONEY... GSW HAS LARGEST PAYROLL IN NBA HISTORY...
It’s definitely not “hardcore fans issue” I’m from Oakland and I’ve been a fan of the warriors since the 04 season I was lucky enough to go to many regular season games playoffs games finals tailgates etc at oracle,I was lucky enough to go to some games over here at the chase center,now let me tell you something “11 miles” may not seem much but in reality getting out that place is light traveling from the earth to the moon because there’s so much traffic in that small area,trust me I’d love to stay but damn if I’m sitting in traffic for 2hrs when I can listen to the game on SirusXM on the way home. Chase center is nice as I got to roam around for a bit but the energy isn’t as tuff as roaracle it wasn’t as loud and there are a lot of new warriors fans who are kids just sitting on there phones so it will never match up to those old days at the oracle palace
Oakland can win anything they lost two team to Las Vegas and one moved back to San Francisco.
In couple of years, the Golden State Warriors will become one of the most expensive clubs in all sports.
I think dey should play dey preseason games n Thz Town juz fa da East Bay Love
Oakland and San Jose should get their own teams.
lol no they are all part of the bay
Reading the comments one thing is clear, people don't think 'rationally' and act 'emotionally'. When you run a multi-billion dollar franchise, you can't think 'emotionally'. The Warriors have 3 max players. From this season (21'-22') alone, they have another max player in Poole and a potential max contract in Kuminga (and maybe Wiseman). To add to all of that, they need to pay luxury tax AND account for state tax. A billion dollar franchise doesn't mean you get every peny of the billion dollars in hand. The Warriors need money if they want to keep up with the likes of LA, NY and Boston.
Like Shaq once said about his first paycheck, he bought a 500K Merc for his parents and then spent the rest on himself till he was told by his agent that he was broke and could not afford it because the million dollars salary meant a good portion of it goes for taxes so he wasn't truly a millionaire.
Because Oracle is close to the hood! Demographics makes the difference
Should of never left
For entity to grow and evolve it has to adapt to necessary change. Look what happened with BLOCKBUSTER(could of bought netflix for cheap couple of millions) and KODAK(original company to bring digital camera)
feel like oracle has the better atmosphere. people stand up when the splash bro shoot threes even before it goes in or it misses. chase doesnt have that. it dont feel lively
Wait Warriors was an Oakland team?
I always looked at the Warriors as a bay area team
1st off me livin n Tha mist of it all being a Oaktown Bizz cat n being 80s baby know Nathan but Tha Oakland Alameda County Coliseum Arena it was Tha Shiznit!!!
I thought they were in San Francisco in the 60s
Oakland also lost the raiders to vegas
I think it sucked but it’s still in Cali so we good. Oakland Cali we had you over the top but now it’s time to San Fran back to the top to compete with Seattle NW
Only the A's remain in Oak. Raiders and Warriors left. A's will be gone soon.
Yeah 96-97 n San Jose yea n den when dey came back ta da Town Sprewell All-Time GSW Hoop great lightweight checked the coach pulse. Most Oaktown Bizz move n sports ever n my lifetime. Some folks ain't even know where Golden State was! Even though that is their ignorance
11 miles away is nothing lol
Been to Chase Center 4 times it just doesn't feel right LoL I don't know it ain't OAKLAND!!! Parking sucks everything is beyond over priced getting out of there after a game sucks getting there sucks etc etc!!!! LoL
N I bet it's more inconvenient getting ta da game 4 most people on team who I bet lived in East Bay
SAN FRANCISCO IS A CURSE , Warriors will be forgotten and put into obvlivion again for many years and the glorious day they had will not to come until they return to OAKLAND . OAKLAND is their land .,a champion land .
Salty af
1 game away and they’re back in the NBA Finals but okay.
Hate the move. Even as a warriors fan. The crowd reactions was everything in watching warriors games in person and even on the tv. I know that they don’t care as much about the crowd as the money, but I do feel the crowd dying out on the move definitely makes it quite a lot less enjoyable! I think that may be part of the reason why fans are leaving early. Also, Fans in Oakland may not be the happiest either that they have to drive 11 more miles which is not that close. Sure it’s not horrible, but it’s a pretty drastic change if you are from Oakland.
Tbh it should be in between both of those cities
@@notskromps8869 At Treasure Island?!
The guy talking in the video obviously 🙄 isn’t from the bay