Loved the video! Been considering to use Runna couple of months and this sounds great! I have a Epix Gen 2 so would love that garmin integration. I have used twice the garmin connect half marathon plan. But it has felt pretty stale now with not much variety in workouts. From your video it seemed a lot more varied (and a much better UI haha) Liked and subscribed!
Thanks Mike. Be sure to watch the earlier video about setting up the RUNNA plan if you haven’t already. Yes I feel it’s better than the Garmin built in plans. I’m using RUNNA also for my post marathon recovery.
Thank you for this video and the others in the series. I have been watching them, as I am considering the Runna App. From what I have seen so far, I must say I am not impressed. First, given your previous experience, I am unsure how any algorithm can credibly suggest that you can run a 3:30 Marathon. This is a long shot at best and I don’t think there are many people that could achieve this goal in just 18 weeks. Second, the sessions you are describing, both intervals and tempo runs are run way too fast even for the 3:30 target pace. I cannot see any benefit of running at a sub 4 min km during a training block. This does not sound like marathon specific training at all. I have just completed the Munich marathon in 3:58 and that was quite comfortable; I could have run faster. I didn’t know what to expect, as I hadn’t run a marathon in 14 years. Therefore I was quite conservative. At no point did I ran faster than 5:10 km in any run during the training block. My weekly milage is around 55k. and has been for a year prior to that race and I wasn’t running at all about 15 months before the race. The vast majority of my running was done at a pace of 6:30km. Only the last 6 weeks before the taper I started running part of my longer runs at marathon pace or 10%. My question to is: do you feel that these fast runs actually made a difference to the specific race you were preparing for? I am sure these runs will greatly increase your 5k PB but they don’t sound marathon specific. I fear that if I start running these kind of paces regularly, injury would be certain since I am 58 now. If this is what the Runna App delivers, I think I would probably be better off getting a different plan. I do love the integration with Garmin, though. Thanks again for sharing your experience.
Thanks Christian, I have now completed my second marathon using Runna as my training plan. On the second and most recent plan (for Chicago, completed last weekend) it once again suggested I had the potential to run about a 3:25-3:40 marathon. This time however, given my experience I set myself a more cautious goal of 3:45 ignoring the overall 'goal' set by Runna. I did in fact do a 3:56, just over 1 minute quicker than Paris. This time I didn't let myself be disappointed as it was still a personal best, but it was still WAY longer than what Runna estimated. Overall despite the goals feeling a bit lofty, I like Runna. Coming from a background of having no real consistency or plan in my training, I must say I really like the plans and the accountability I now feel (to myself) to do the various sessions. I really don't struggle with the paces in the tempo & interval sessions, but the question of if that is the 'right' kind of training for a marathon, I don't really know. Having had a couple of conversations, including one with a running coach at the airport in Chicago, they made a point similar to yours above about the easy paced runs and I should focus more on these, which is a weak point for me. Even my easy runs, I struggle with getting my pace much below 5:30/km. But this is a learning for me and something I will be trying to improve on in my next plan. Any plan I do though will have to integrate with Garmin as well as Runna does though. I did my first marathon plan for Gothenburg using ChatGPT and manually entering all my workouts into Garmin Connect (there is a video on my channel for that too if interested). I definitely don't want to go back to manual input! It was rather soul destroying. There are a couple of alternatives on the market now I might consider trying including Coopah (they sponsor the London Marathon) and Humango which I know less about. My annual plan with Runna comes up for renewal in December so I will be strongly thinking about the alternatives.
@@RunSDJ Thanks for your detailed response. I don’t think I‘ll bother with Runna, which is a shame because I had high hopes. I am all for stretch goals but the paces your plan made you run are way off imo. How can an easy pace be the same as Marathon race pace? And race pace for a very lofty goal time at that. Some elite runners have an easy pace not far below the 5 min mark. Easy should be zone 2. Does Runna take into consideration your max heart rate? If it was a free App, I might give it a try but my expectation for the price that they are charging would be that the app takes all available data into account when designing a training plan. It sounds like they’ll make you happy when you sign up by giving you a great prediction but can’t deliver on it. Great result in Chicago. A PB is a PB! Well done. 👏
Hi! Thank you so much for the video. I was just wondering your goal finishing time? I am gonna be running at AMSTERDAM marathon this year and my goal is sub 3.30. Thank you
Hi! I was training for a 3:30 time which Runna set me based on some PB times I’d put in the app for various distances. Don’t know if you’ve seen but I’ve got a whole series of videos about setting up the Runna plan and monthly check ins. I’ll put the link to the playlist in the next comment.
Best Runna app review byfar! Nice structure and easy to understand
Thank you very much, that means a lot! Really glad you found it informative
Loved the video! Been considering to use Runna couple of months and this sounds great! I have a Epix Gen 2 so would love that garmin integration.
I have used twice the garmin connect half marathon plan. But it has felt pretty stale now with not much variety in workouts. From your video it seemed a lot more varied (and a much better UI haha)
Liked and subscribed!
Thanks Mike. Be sure to watch the earlier video about setting up the RUNNA plan if you haven’t already. Yes I feel it’s better than the Garmin built in plans. I’m using RUNNA also for my post marathon recovery.
Good video. It's a shame Garmin doesn't provide a proper Marathon training plan though...
I ‘think’ you could get their race widget to do it, but I don’t think it’d be as good as what Runna does.
Thank you for this video and the others in the series. I have been watching them, as I am considering the Runna App. From what I have seen so far, I must say I am not impressed. First, given your previous experience, I am unsure how any algorithm can credibly suggest that you can run a 3:30 Marathon. This is a long shot at best and I don’t think there are many people that could achieve this goal in just 18 weeks. Second, the sessions you are describing, both intervals and tempo runs are run way too fast even for the 3:30 target pace. I cannot see any benefit of running at a sub 4 min km during a training block. This does not sound like marathon specific training at all.
I have just completed the Munich marathon in 3:58 and that was quite comfortable; I could have run faster. I didn’t know what to expect, as I hadn’t run a marathon in 14 years. Therefore I was quite conservative. At no point did I ran faster than 5:10 km in any run during the training block. My weekly milage is around 55k. and has been for a year prior to that race and I wasn’t running at all about 15 months before the race. The vast majority of my running was done at a pace of 6:30km. Only the last 6 weeks before the taper I started running part of my longer runs at marathon pace or 10%. My question to is: do you feel that these fast runs actually made a difference to the specific race you were preparing for? I am sure these runs will greatly increase your 5k PB but they don’t sound marathon specific. I fear that if I start running these kind of paces regularly, injury would be certain since I am 58 now. If this is what the Runna App delivers, I think I would probably be better off getting a different plan. I do love the integration with Garmin, though. Thanks again for sharing your experience.
Thanks Christian, I have now completed my second marathon using Runna as my training plan. On the second and most recent plan (for Chicago, completed last weekend) it once again suggested I had the potential to run about a 3:25-3:40 marathon. This time however, given my experience I set myself a more cautious goal of 3:45 ignoring the overall 'goal' set by Runna. I did in fact do a 3:56, just over 1 minute quicker than Paris. This time I didn't let myself be disappointed as it was still a personal best, but it was still WAY longer than what Runna estimated.
Overall despite the goals feeling a bit lofty, I like Runna. Coming from a background of having no real consistency or plan in my training, I must say I really like the plans and the accountability I now feel (to myself) to do the various sessions. I really don't struggle with the paces in the tempo & interval sessions, but the question of if that is the 'right' kind of training for a marathon, I don't really know.
Having had a couple of conversations, including one with a running coach at the airport in Chicago, they made a point similar to yours above about the easy paced runs and I should focus more on these, which is a weak point for me. Even my easy runs, I struggle with getting my pace much below 5:30/km. But this is a learning for me and something I will be trying to improve on in my next plan.
Any plan I do though will have to integrate with Garmin as well as Runna does though. I did my first marathon plan for Gothenburg using ChatGPT and manually entering all my workouts into Garmin Connect (there is a video on my channel for that too if interested). I definitely don't want to go back to manual input! It was rather soul destroying.
There are a couple of alternatives on the market now I might consider trying including Coopah (they sponsor the London Marathon) and Humango which I know less about. My annual plan with Runna comes up for renewal in December so I will be strongly thinking about the alternatives.
@@RunSDJ Thanks for your detailed response. I don’t think I‘ll bother with Runna, which is a shame because I had high hopes. I am all for stretch goals but the paces your plan made you run are way off imo. How can an easy pace be the same as Marathon race pace? And race pace for a very lofty goal time at that. Some elite runners have an easy pace not far below the 5 min mark. Easy should be zone 2. Does Runna take into consideration your max heart rate? If it was a free App, I might give it a try but my expectation for the price that they are charging would be that the app takes all available data into account when designing a training plan. It sounds like they’ll make you happy when you sign up by giving you a great prediction but can’t deliver on it. Great result in Chicago. A PB is a PB! Well done. 👏
Hi! Thank you so much for the video. I was just wondering your goal finishing time? I am gonna be running at AMSTERDAM marathon this year and my goal is sub 3.30. Thank you
Hi! I was training for a 3:30 time which Runna set me based on some PB times I’d put in the app for various distances. Don’t know if you’ve seen but I’ve got a whole series of videos about setting up the Runna plan and monthly check ins. I’ll put the link to the playlist in the next comment.
Paris Marathon
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