Easy explaining.💪👏👏👏. But let’s mark white wire as a red or even black so no one gets confused that doesn’t know that’s is 220v so no one think is neutral. But great job.
Well thanks Ben, I just bought a house here in S Austin and want to install 240V in my garage so I can run a more powerful tablesaw, and then maybe explore getting into welding :) Video gave me the confidence to go ahead and get it done! Bonus is the panel is right in the garage too.
Very nice; you got a new sub. I like guys who are willing to talk through the process, show mistakes, and who *_refrain from putting in a cheesy music bed_* on the video. This is just what I needed to see the experience; I'm gonna put in an outlet to get 240V level 2 charging for a plug-in hybrid.
I think you re supposed to mark that white wire in the receptacle and in the breaker as hot (wrap red tape around it). Because white wire can be used as a neutral. Black is always hot.
I moved and thought my bandsaw was wired for 220 so I got a new cord end plugged it in and turned it on it ran for about a second then I heard a pop. I went to the breaker and none of them were tripped. I opened up the electrical cover on the bandsaw and saw that it was wired for 110. Oops hopefully nothing bad happened to it but I won’t know until I can get back to the store and buy a different outlet.
If you find in the future that you need different amperage rated receptacles, remove the receptacle, install surface mount MLO panel over the box, and put surface mounted single receptacles off the side of the panel. Since you did not use three wire NM, you must label the panel as "240 VOLTS ONLY". Also, being knit picky, there is not two phases in your house. It is single phase. Correct term "two lines". L1 L2
In the defense industry we always had to score the insulation with a soldering iron and then remove to avoid nicks in the copper. Most people just score all the way. Good to see someone who knows what to do.
I have a wire stripper that pulls the insulation off without cutting, and it never damages the copper. It can even strip the jacket off romex and SO cord without damaging conductors. It can also strip several wires at once.
@@txtoolcrib i use it all the time i keep my old as dirt millermatic 35 white face plugged in all the time ready to go just turn on the gas and hit the power switch
I am working on almost an identical project: I want to get a welder and learn - so am planning to run 240V to my garage. Can you please tell me which outlet you installed? My existing panel is pretty full - 200A service. I am adding a subpanel; 60A or 100A - off the main. I plan to use 8g wire from subpanel, through 3/4" PVC non-metallic conduit. I think I will run the wires up the garage wall to the outlet in conduit sitting on the drywall. That will be kind of ugly - I'd rather do the same thing you did with the box flush in the wall. But might be tough to fish that wire...
Update: fishing expedition was successful. Can now mount a box on other side of stud from a regular outlet! Still appreciate info on outlet you used. I plan to run a welder from this.
I used a 240V 50amp plug for mine. I paired that with a 50amp switch at the panel. I probably could have gotten away with a 30amp, but one of my welders has a FLA of 33 amps.
@@buxka2 so did you have your wall finished with drywall? Like no access to the inside of the wall? Did you have to completely fish it from panel to outlet?
If you do use a jab saw, get a small open box and tape the lid to the wall below the cuts. Slight brush after and all dust in box, not on floor. Less clean up time.
My house was built in 2005 and the panel is next to wall outside garage wall. I dont have to go through ceiling right, I can just run a cable from outside of wall into garage wall. I will be buying an electric car soon and also an electric heater to heat up my 3 car garage/man cave. wanna have this 240V ready before christmas:) I have seen many youtube videos where they place electric heater up high close to ceiling on a corner and also the 240V up in the wall. Since I will be using it to plug in electric car and electric heater whenever I am playing pool in garage should i install it to the hight of the other 120v outlets?
You’re correct. If your panel is on an adjacent wall, your install will be much easier. The shorter the path, the better. The outlets in my garage set a bit higher than I would have liked. I personally like my outlets a little lower, especially when dealing with heavier cord. My preference would be about 18” above floor height. That is subjective though. Ultimately I decided to install my 240 V outlet at the same height as my 120 V outlets, more for aesthetic than anything else.
@@txtoolcrib my ceiling hight is only 8ft high. So if I install heater up in ceiling corner and 240v outlet 18" avobe floor will heater cord reach? Also when charging electric car I can just unplug heater and plug in car and viseversa right?
It might be a bit low for your heater. You may need to check your cord length to ensure it will reach. I personally would prefer a direct wired heater and a separate outlet. As for the charger for your electric vehicle, I can’t answer that question as I am unfamiliar with the cords those chargers use. It was my understanding that they used a special outlet.
@@txtoolcrib the electric car comes with its own charger that I can plug it in a 120v regular outlet which is a level one charger but it will take 12- 18 hous to charge it or I can plug it in a 240v outlet which is a level 2 and it will charge it in about 4 hours. The cord of car has adapters where I can ug it in in these regular home outlets.
@@futbol1972 Marco, be careful here. Many videos talk about the car charger install. They often talk about the wire size to carry the current to the recepticle. They almost never talk about the wire size feeding your house. When your house was built, the electrical guys used some NEC calculations to size your wires as small as they could for your loads that existed then. Adding your breaker ratings will not do it: 50 amps stove 30 amps water heater 50 amps for heating 40 amps for a/c 40 amps clothes dryer 6 or 10 15 amp breakers 4 or 60 20 amp breakers Put over 400 amps on your 150 or 200 amp service. Hell, your car charger alone is as much power as a stove/oven to add into the mix. Can you "make it work", sure. Is it a danger though? I strongly encourage you to talk with your building office and maybe get a local electrician involved at least for the calculation. Going through your permit office will go a long way with your insurance company if the electric you installed burns up your garage and the falling roof ruins your new car.
Easy explaining.💪👏👏👏. But let’s mark white wire as a red or even black so no one gets confused that doesn’t know that’s is 220v so no one think is neutral. But great job.
Well thanks Ben, I just bought a house here in S Austin and want to install 240V in my garage so I can run a more powerful tablesaw, and then maybe explore getting into welding :)
Video gave me the confidence to go ahead and get it done!
Bonus is the panel is right in the garage too.
Very nice; you got a new sub. I like guys who are willing to talk through the process, show mistakes, and who *_refrain from putting in a cheesy music bed_* on the video. This is just what I needed to see the experience; I'm gonna put in an outlet to get 240V level 2 charging for a plug-in hybrid.
I think you re supposed to mark that white wire in the receptacle and in the breaker as hot (wrap red tape around it). Because white wire can be used as a neutral. Black is always hot.
Thank you for the video. I have watched other videos, this is the best and simplest one I’ve seen so far!
Excellent video
Awesome Video I'm in Fort Worth and will do this tomorrow
I moved and thought my bandsaw was wired for 220 so I got a new cord end plugged it in and turned it on it ran for about a second then I heard a pop. I went to the breaker and none of them were tripped. I opened up the electrical cover on the bandsaw and saw that it was wired for 110. Oops hopefully nothing bad happened to it but I won’t know until I can get back to the store and buy a different outlet.
Why 8ga instead of 6 for 50A? Thanks!
If you find in the future that you need different amperage rated receptacles, remove the receptacle, install surface mount MLO panel over the box, and put surface mounted single receptacles off the side of the panel. Since you did not use three wire NM, you must label the panel as "240 VOLTS ONLY".
Also, being knit picky, there is not two phases in your house. It is single phase. Correct term "two lines". L1 L2
Yeah, I get electrical terminology mixed up sometimes. I am aware that house voltage is single phase. Thanks for your tips.
TX Tool Crib Anyone that does electrical Design and reads NEC has to be very particular about every word or else they get into problems.
Very nice video!
Wow really amazing video!!!
Thanks again.
@@txtoolcrib you're welcome 😊
In the defense industry we always had to score the insulation with a soldering iron and then remove to avoid nicks in the copper. Most people just score all the way. Good to see someone who knows what to do.
Thank you sir, I appreciate that.
I have a wire stripper that pulls the insulation off without cutting, and it never damages the copper. It can even strip the jacket off romex and SO cord without damaging conductors. It can also strip several wires at once.
Super!
Diegel can't do that!
one of the first things i did when wever we moved was run 240 into the garage.
Something I should have done quite a while ago myself, glad I finally got it done.
@@txtoolcrib i use it all the time i keep my old as dirt millermatic 35 white face plugged in all the time ready to go just turn on the gas and hit the power switch
luckily my garage had no pre wire like you, I am disappointed..
I am working on almost an identical project: I want to get a welder and learn - so am planning to run 240V to my garage. Can you please tell me which outlet you installed? My existing panel is pretty full - 200A service. I am adding a subpanel; 60A or 100A - off the main. I plan to use 8g wire from subpanel, through 3/4" PVC non-metallic conduit. I think I will run the wires up the garage wall to the outlet in conduit sitting on the drywall. That will be kind of ugly - I'd rather do the same thing you did with the box flush in the wall. But might be tough to fish that wire...
Update: fishing expedition was successful. Can now mount a box on other side of stud from a regular outlet! Still appreciate info on outlet you used. I plan to run a welder from this.
I used a 240V 50amp plug for mine. I paired that with a 50amp switch at the panel. I probably could have gotten away with a 30amp, but one of my welders has a FLA of 33 amps.
@@buxka2 so did you have your wall finished with drywall? Like no access to the inside of the wall? Did you have to completely fish it from panel to outlet?
What kind of wire did you run? What's the name of it so I can buy at the hardware store? Thanks
Looks good
I scar the wire all the time never had an issue.
Takes just one set of sparks man. Arc flashes are dangerous
So each 120v line for a 3 wire output Automatically gives you 3 phase?
2 separate phases? Are you saying your house has 3 phase power?
You could use a jab saw and cut until you hit the stud. Next time trace the box with a pencil so the fit is tight. You left too much of a gap.
That's what I should have done.
If you do use a jab saw, get a small open box and tape the lid to the wall below the cuts. Slight brush after and all dust in box, not on floor. Less clean up time.
@@KevinCoop1 Nice tip.
Kris Klekosky Thanks. Learned that one from a very good electrician that worked on jobs I managed.
You got the 240V part right, but kept calling a 120V outlet a 110, I guess if we were pre-1950 that could be correct…
Get a permit building planning dept ?
I was pissed when my shit stopped, I was welding with a 120 amp but don't know shit about doing this.
do you need pertmit on doing the project? and what type of circuit breake did you use sir, are they gfci/afci or a regular breaker?
2 years ago it’s probably just regular double pole. Now you need GFCI
Thanks TX
You’re very welcome
Are you a electrician?
You are not supposed to use white wire. Use black and red 6AWG wires. 8 gauge is too thin
My house was built in 2005 and the panel is next to wall outside garage wall. I dont have to go through ceiling right, I can just run a cable from outside of wall into garage wall. I will be buying an electric car soon and also an electric heater to heat up my 3 car garage/man cave. wanna have this 240V ready before christmas:) I have seen many youtube videos where they place electric heater up high close to ceiling on a corner and also the 240V up in the wall. Since I will be using it to plug in electric car and electric heater whenever I am playing pool in garage should i install it to the hight of the other 120v outlets?
You’re correct. If your panel is on an adjacent wall, your install will be much easier. The shorter the path, the better. The outlets in my garage set a bit higher than I would have liked. I personally like my outlets a little lower, especially when dealing with heavier cord. My preference would be about 18” above floor height. That is subjective though. Ultimately I decided to install my 240 V outlet at the same height as my 120 V outlets, more for aesthetic than anything else.
@@txtoolcrib my ceiling hight is only 8ft high. So if I install heater up in ceiling corner and 240v outlet 18" avobe floor will heater cord reach? Also when charging electric car I can just unplug heater and plug in car and viseversa right?
It might be a bit low for your heater. You may need to check your cord length to ensure it will reach. I personally would prefer a direct wired heater and a separate outlet. As for the charger for your electric vehicle, I can’t answer that question as I am unfamiliar with the cords those chargers use. It was my understanding that they used a special outlet.
@@txtoolcrib the electric car comes with its own charger that I can plug it in a 120v regular outlet which is a level one charger but it will take 12- 18 hous to charge it or I can plug it in a 240v outlet which is a level 2 and it will charge it in about 4 hours. The cord of car has adapters where I can ug it in in these regular home outlets.
@@futbol1972 Marco, be careful here. Many videos talk about the car charger install. They often talk about the wire size to carry the current to the recepticle. They almost never talk about the wire size feeding your house.
When your house was built, the electrical guys used some NEC calculations to size your wires as small as they could for your loads that existed then. Adding your breaker ratings will not do it:
50 amps stove
30 amps water heater
50 amps for heating
40 amps for a/c
40 amps clothes dryer
6 or 10 15 amp breakers
4 or 60 20 amp breakers
Put over 400 amps on your 150 or 200 amp service.
Hell, your car charger alone is as much power as a stove/oven to add into the mix.
Can you "make it work", sure. Is it a danger though?
I strongly encourage you to talk with your building office and maybe get a local electrician involved at least for the calculation.
Going through your permit office will go a long way with your insurance company if the electric you installed burns up your garage and the falling roof ruins your new car.
Why didn't you just convert the 120v receptacle to 240v and save yourself a lot of work?
Because I needed the 120V.
what gauge wire?
I used 8 gauge for the plug.
How to install 240v without showing you how to run 240v. Lol what a joke.