0:47 right after the first half of Malric's speech(after words "It was I who restored it to its former Glory!"), Argon parries with "My father cannot rest in peace until Agathian integrity is restored to the Throne!" Also in the end there was the next exchange: Malric: "Sheeth your sword! Join us in repelling of foreign horde! This is bigger, than our petty squapple!" Argon II: "The rain of Mason Order ends here, today! There is no stopping the Will of the people!"
it's really speak up both side ideology and goal by this speech. Malric want to unite the kingdom as new to repel the Tenosian from the south. while Argon want revenge and restore the origin of Agathian kingdom.
You know what would be awesome? If after this, they make a peace pact and join forces to destroy Tenosia, THAT WOULD BE SICK, imagine masons and Agathans running around destroying the tenosians together!
There is some mistakes : 0:24 : you forgot Malric's quote : "And for what ? Birthright?" 0:34 Malric say : "I am the protector of this "realm" !". Not "The world". 0:58 : "I LOVED your father". Not "Love".
So, which side you choose? Repeling the foreign horde and save the agathian land? or helping your king to fulfill his ambition of revenge for his father?
All of this is Argon I's fault, had he not invaded tenosia with a woefully under prepared army, malric never would have betrayed him and tenosia would not be attacking agatha
Yeah, it's nice that both are kind of wrong in their own ways. Both people care about the land, but Malric having usurped power believes he can't give up any of it--it's a folly of being someone who used force to get power, believing that the same thing can and will happen to you. So he rules with an iron fist over what could have been a pretty good regime. Argon II is just able to see the surface, as he sees tyranny in Malric's regime, so he knows that something has to be done about it. Yet, he's obsessed with the nobility of his cause so much that he can't recognize anything that Malric stands for being valid. Such as how he and his father perpetuated a pointless, bloody crusade against the Tenosians and how that could nearly have caused Agatha to completely shatter into numerous feudal kingdoms if not for Malric's intervention.
@@robfus Title screen says that Argon is committing the last of his forces to attack Trayan Citadel, so even before and after this battle, Argon claims the crown but has a broken army not fully united during a time when Tenosia has already invaded.
@@ythandlename Argon is a fool that lack vision, thinking about reclaiming his crown instead then protecting the peaople. That tells a lot about who's really is the incompetent one. Chivalry3 will probably be like about Masons loyalist and Agathian rebels trying to take back the realm from Tenosia.
Also, nice argument. However, i have depicted my preferred ruler as chad while i have depicted your favorite as soyjak meme therefore my argument is better
first a small note, you seem to be missing half the speech. But that aside! Argon's a bloody moron. The Tenosian Empire is ransacking his lands, pillaging his towns and murdering his people, but naah.. revenge more important! Malric offers him a temporary truce to beat back Tenosia. naaah, must avenge muh dada! Malric is here defending the kingdom from Tenosia by having his elite stationed in the south, while dealing with this upstart whelp's rebellion. He's giving the people of the kingdom a chance to claim what they want to be, rather than be tied down by their birth. Someone born a peasant can become a general under Malric if they so choose - not under Argon. Honestly why would anyone want to serve Argon after witnessing this? Malric's people have stood and bled in the defense of both Mason and Agathian lands when Tenosia rose from the south. Argon is just burning is way through Vantear with only singleminded revenge in his eyes, and not a care in the world for any of the people that want to side with him. Hells, he's even forcing the peasants to take up arms to defend their towns, with no training, no equipment, and a garrison that reponds far too late to an incoming attack. Both in the case of Coxwell and Bridgetown, the Garrison shows up only when all the peasants have already been slain. But when a Mason town is attacked, do you see defenseless peasants take up a desperate stand because the garrison is still sleeping? No. The soldiers are already charging out at the attackers. For the Order! For the Red, and Black!
Malric could have just offered this alliance earlier though. It is only at Trayan that he actually tries to make peace with Argon. And Argon doesn't directly order cities and villages and towns, it's the lord's and noble's faults, not Argon's. This does mean that the nobles of Agatha are flawed, though. Also, Malric getting rid of "birthright" is false, as he has an HEIR in Rudhelm. Heirs imply birthright. It is likely that the peasantry also did fought out of choice or out of necessity, as in Bridgetown, they say "Us peasants must make a stand!". The Garrison might take too long, of course. That's an issue, of course, but shouldn't be blamed on King Argon II.
@@supernate760 Aye, Malric does have an heir - which has some interesting lore on him, given he was born from Argon the First's sister or daughter. One of the two, though she died shortly before Malric returned from the crusades. In any case, he's likely just the heir to Malric's things, just like how Tim the Tanner's son would take over his father's workshop after his death. Sure its a bit grander in Malric's case, and nobles do still serve under him, but he does promise a lot more freedom than the Agathians. At least, on paper. If its the same in practice, I do not know. What I do know is that, yes, Malric could've offered a truce sooner - but it was just as likely Argon would've waived it away. The lion's whelp is too proud and stubborn to accept it, which might be why Malric waited until he had Argon literally at the tip of his blade. I cant fault Argon for being an inexperienced leader either, even if I prefer the Masons, because he is still young. Like, what, between 19-22? That's far too young to be leading an entire kingdom. Its very likely the nobles in his court are taking full advantage of him. So is it directly Argon's fault? No. He should be less proud and stubborn, and actually see Tenosia for the threat it is. But he's too inexperienced. Should Malric have offered a truce sooner? Aye. As soon as the Bulwark went down, he should've sent a raven to Argon. They're both flawed. In any case, yay order, boo agatha. And the Tigress is one hell of a scary Empress. I hope she shows up in person soon
@@Filius_Tonitrui He was loyal to Argon and Agatha, he only came to power because of being tired of the rapid rift between peasants and nobility, and how nobody in charge was trying to prepare for the inevitable Tenosian counter attack.
yea he says that it doesnn't matter who wins this day, because Argon has hamstrung any hope of gathering enough resources and manpower to stop Tenosia.
Both voice actors are doing a fantastic job!
Finally, the Twink vs Dilf Update
WHAT?
@@HailMyMetal666 true story
Femboy vs dilf
Couldn't have said better myself
For Malric! For the iron fist! For the red and black!
shut your heretic mouth
0:47 right after the first half of Malric's speech(after words "It was I who restored it to its former Glory!"), Argon parries with "My father cannot rest in peace until Agathian integrity is restored to the Throne!"
Also in the end there was the next exchange:
Malric: "Sheeth your sword! Join us in repelling of foreign horde! This is bigger, than our petty squapple!"
Argon II: "The rain of Mason Order ends here, today! There is no stopping the Will of the people!"
it does not say galencourt it says the foreign horde referring to tenosian
@@pedromiguellopezcabas7095 thanks
it's really speak up both side ideology and goal by this speech.
Malric want to unite the kingdom as new to repel the Tenosian from the south.
while Argon want revenge and restore the origin of Agathian kingdom.
@@PrinceLuciusSiegfried and I like such explanation of each side's motivation!
Getting some serious “young wolf” energy coming off of argon
Matching franchise names lol
I thought it's a "little wolf" from epic musical reference there for a moment
@@the_IkarFight
Trayans citadel is so cinematic i love it
FOR THE BLUE AND GOLD!
FOR ARGON, THE TRUE KING!
FOR THE RED AND BLACK!
FOR MALRIC!
nono malric is the true king
@@louissepepito7577Taking country by mischief and betraying the king? Not sure, but Agatha for Agathians
FOR ARGON
FOR THE CROSS AND LION
1:15 bro is straight lying here lol he entrusted Feydrid Kearn the steward king and Malric cut his head off.
Because feydrid was a mere pretender, and he also attacked Malric first. Feydrid was weak and Malric has a kind of darwinistic look on life.
Agatha forever
Chad Argon vs Begging Malric
You know what would be awesome? If after this, they make a peace pact and join forces to destroy Tenosia, THAT WOULD BE SICK, imagine masons and Agathans running around destroying the tenosians together!
FOR ARGON ! FOR AGATHAAAAAAAA !
There is some mistakes :
0:24 : you forgot Malric's quote : "And for what ? Birthright?"
0:34 Malric say : "I am the protector of this "realm" !". Not "The world".
0:58 : "I LOVED your father". Not "Love".
malrick also said "toddler" instead of "choppler" at the start.
if Argon is toddler, Marlic is old fart
I love it hope we get more Dialogs like this one in future games and updates
Amazing quality. Great work
Nice vid. Also I think he says "in his absence." in 1:19
So, which side you choose?
Repeling the foreign horde and save the agathian land?
or helping your king to fulfill his ambition of revenge for his father?
am with argon the true king malric is traitor
@@xxr_511 spoken like a true bootlicker.
All of this is Argon I's fault, had he not invaded tenosia with a woefully under prepared army, malric never would have betrayed him and tenosia would not be attacking agatha
small note 1:24 it should be "with the defenses of the kingdom in his absence"
FOR ARGON 🦁
Yeah, it's nice that both are kind of wrong in their own ways. Both people care about the land, but Malric having usurped power believes he can't give up any of it--it's a folly of being someone who used force to get power, believing that the same thing can and will happen to you. So he rules with an iron fist over what could have been a pretty good regime.
Argon II is just able to see the surface, as he sees tyranny in Malric's regime, so he knows that something has to be done about it. Yet, he's obsessed with the nobility of his cause so much that he can't recognize anything that Malric stands for being valid. Such as how he and his father perpetuated a pointless, bloody crusade against the Tenosians and how that could nearly have caused Agatha to completely shatter into numerous feudal kingdoms if not for Malric's intervention.
I love the bit when he calls him ageist
cringe
so cringe
YOUR AGEIST INSULTS WILL NOT STAY MY HAND
"Im the protector of this realm"
He said while dressed as a clown
@@hermitguy102 Menwhile Argon waisting resources fighting the masons instead of fighting the invaderes is the entire circus.
@@robfus Title screen says that Argon is committing the last of his forces to attack Trayan Citadel, so even before and after this battle, Argon claims the crown but has a broken army not fully united during a time when Tenosia has already invaded.
@@ythandlename Argon is a fool that lack vision, thinking about reclaiming his crown instead then protecting the peaople. That tells a lot about who's really is the incompetent one. Chivalry3 will probably be like about Masons loyalist and Agathian rebels trying to take back the realm from Tenosia.
Why has every video on youtube with subtitles got them so woefully wrong?
Also, nice argument. However, i have depicted my preferred ruler as chad while i have depicted your favorite as soyjak meme therefore my argument is better
RED FOR THE BLOOD IN OUR VEINS
BLACK FOR THE SHADOW THAT REMAINS
FOR MALRIC. THE TRUE KING
WHO DARES OPPOSE MEEEE 🔥🔥
first a small note, you seem to be missing half the speech. But that aside!
Argon's a bloody moron. The Tenosian Empire is ransacking his lands, pillaging his towns and murdering his people, but naah.. revenge more important!
Malric offers him a temporary truce to beat back Tenosia. naaah, must avenge muh dada!
Malric is here defending the kingdom from Tenosia by having his elite stationed in the south, while dealing with this upstart whelp's rebellion. He's giving the people of the kingdom a chance to claim what they want to be, rather than be tied down by their birth. Someone born a peasant can become a general under Malric if they so choose - not under Argon.
Honestly why would anyone want to serve Argon after witnessing this? Malric's people have stood and bled in the defense of both Mason and Agathian lands when Tenosia rose from the south. Argon is just burning is way through Vantear with only singleminded revenge in his eyes, and not a care in the world for any of the people that want to side with him. Hells, he's even forcing the peasants to take up arms to defend their towns, with no training, no equipment, and a garrison that reponds far too late to an incoming attack.
Both in the case of Coxwell and Bridgetown, the Garrison shows up only when all the peasants have already been slain. But when a Mason town is attacked, do you see defenseless peasants take up a desperate stand because the garrison is still sleeping? No. The soldiers are already charging out at the attackers.
For the Order! For the Red, and Black!
No birthrights, looks inside, heir in rudhelm.
Do you endorse the killing of innocent peasants from masons
Malric could have just offered this alliance earlier though. It is only at Trayan that he actually tries to make peace with Argon. And Argon doesn't directly order cities and villages and towns, it's the lord's and noble's faults, not Argon's. This does mean that the nobles of Agatha are flawed, though. Also, Malric getting rid of "birthright" is false, as he has an HEIR in Rudhelm. Heirs imply birthright. It is likely that the peasantry also did fought out of choice or out of necessity, as in Bridgetown, they say "Us peasants must make a stand!". The Garrison might take too long, of course. That's an issue, of course, but shouldn't be blamed on King Argon II.
@@supernate760 Aye, Malric does have an heir - which has some interesting lore on him, given he was born from Argon the First's sister or daughter. One of the two, though she died shortly before Malric returned from the crusades.
In any case, he's likely just the heir to Malric's things, just like how Tim the Tanner's son would take over his father's workshop after his death. Sure its a bit grander in Malric's case, and nobles do still serve under him, but he does promise a lot more freedom than the Agathians. At least, on paper. If its the same in practice, I do not know.
What I do know is that, yes, Malric could've offered a truce sooner - but it was just as likely Argon would've waived it away. The lion's whelp is too proud and stubborn to accept it, which might be why Malric waited until he had Argon literally at the tip of his blade. I cant fault Argon for being an inexperienced leader either, even if I prefer the Masons, because he is still young. Like, what, between 19-22? That's far too young to be leading an entire kingdom. Its very likely the nobles in his court are taking full advantage of him.
So is it directly Argon's fault? No. He should be less proud and stubborn, and actually see Tenosia for the threat it is. But he's too inexperienced. Should Malric have offered a truce sooner? Aye. As soon as the Bulwark went down, he should've sent a raven to Argon. They're both flawed.
In any case, yay order, boo agatha. And the Tigress is one hell of a scary Empress. I hope she shows up in person soon
“MALRIC IS NOT ONLY A DUUUUUUUDDDEE, HE IS A HANDSOME ONNEEEEE!!” - Mason Knight 🗣️🗣️
MALRIC IS A PAGAN 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Chad Malric logic VS Virgin Argon pettiness 🥶
"Logic" in betraying the man he loved and who trusted him.
@@Filius_Tonitrui Malric only acted AFTER Argon I died, he never betrayed him.
@@DeusExBoonima if he was loyal to Argon I, he wouldn't have rebelled against the Agatha Knights.
@@Filius_Tonitrui He was loyal to Argon and Agatha, he only came to power because of being tired of the rapid rift between peasants and nobility, and how nobody in charge was trying to prepare for the inevitable Tenosian counter attack.
@@DeusExBoonimayes Malric spoke for the poor, until he slaughtered them in droves. If you were not powerful, you were nothing to the Mason Order
MALRIC IS THE TRUE KING
MALRIC IS A DUUUUUUUUUDE!!🗣️
He is a usurper and deserves cast down for the blue and gold
False, Argon II's better
@@supernate760 )o.o) i have sent a ballista bolt to your location with Mason Express Mail, you dirty rebel.
@@supernate760 NAHH 🗣️🔥🔥
Who voiced Argon and Malric? Fantastic work
0:54 It's poetic but still Argon is right, Malric has fallen down
yeah malric is traitor
Marlic doesn't say something about tenosia if i remember correctly?
yea he says that it doesnn't matter who wins this day, because Argon has hamstrung any hope of gathering enough resources and manpower to stop Tenosia.
Malric is a DUDE
For argon ! ...... for now
Rebel knight
*FOR SOCIALIZED MEDICINEEEE!!!*
@@JohnDoe-wv7ep and sometimes he says
for malric ... xD
Funny enough Argatha lost more lol
Im for the mason order all the way, argon is a fool!
what a lame map, they dont even make out when the time runs out....
Yeah no archer positions as well