Spire Motorsports is a team that has quietly been building themselves up into a legit team, using the large amount of cup team shutdowns in 2020-2021 to their advantage and are now running three full time cars by next season. In terms of horsepower theyre still well off, but Spire is definitely a successful team in the making
Also, making a Truck Series Team by purchasing a powerhouse Truck Series team like Kyle Busch Motorsports is really interesting. It could be make or break. (Make if Hendrick still has an alliance, break if not [unless another Chevy team from Cup or even Xfinity comes along]). In terms of the Worst Driver for Spire, it's Ty Dillion. This is because the rotation of previous drivers doesn't count.
@@mikewagner9395Yea but at least Sam won an Indycar championship and won the most iconic Indy 500 finish in history for Penske before he went to their Nascar team
@@seannolan9857 yet David Stremme had potential but ever since Ryan Newman left the 12 car that ride never had the same speed which is why Brad Keselowski only got moved to the 2 car once Kurt left.
Even with the criteria of drivers that had more than a handful of starts, Todd Kluever still ended up making a cameo in this during the Wood Brother's segment.
Other bad drivers from the current teams: RFK Racing - Kevin Lepage (No. 16) - Chad Little (No. 97) - Trevor Bayne (No. 6) Richard Childress Racing - Jeff Green (No. 30) Joe Gibbs Racing - J. J. Yeley (No. 18)
And Craven wasn’t completely awful. In a season and a half, he had 8 top 10s, a couple of poles and won the Winston Open. Not quite up to Hendrick standards, but at least somewhat competitive.
Danica Patrick’s record is impressively bad, mainly because most drivers on her level would get fired from SHR after 1 season Remember that SHR team weren’t the mess they are now, that was a team that could put multiple cars in the final 8
Making it even worse is that she was actually a pretty good IndyCar driver. She really screwed up making the switch although at the time there was of course a lot more money to be made in NASCAR
She was rushed up the ranks. Didn’t have the time to develop. She did have minor improvements in her last couple of years in cup. She rarely causes wrecks in those last years. However she typically got wrecked or was involved. She was just another back marker driver.
@@braedonshelton2305 Backmarker is fair, the results were dreadful. With how random and ridiculous NASCAR is, you’d think she’d fluke a top 5 once or twice in SHR equipment. It’s crazy to me
@@Duval-In-The-Wall I also can't get over the fact that Danica first couldn't finish a duel race and then didn't even make 2 laps at the 2012 Daytona 500. That literally doomed her career from the beginning.
Great video concept. Would love to see this done with key teams from the history of the sport (i.e., Petty, MWR, Evernham, Ganassi, DEI, Red Bull, etc).
I think with Roush that Chad Little or Kevin Lepage should have been considered worse than Dallenbach. SHR is right, even of you count just the Haas years, though Mayfield might be a contender. With Legacy, PE & RPM should have been considered as you did witb Roush-->RFK. For that I'd go with Christian Fittipaldi or Buckshot Jones. Maybe Casey Mears at RCR? All the rest I believe are spot on.
@@crystaljon the reason that I would pick Mears over Blaney is that when Blaney got the ride, that team in particular was new. When Mears got it, it had already been established. The stats are really close though.
@@highoctanecardsI thought the same tbh. The 07 was a completely restructured and renumberd 30 AOL team in 2005 which never had prior success before. When Mears stepped in, it was alr a known win/title contender with Bowyer and flopped with Mears
He had a better career in Trans Am before coming to NASCAR, winning two championships in the mid 80's (one was with Jack Roush, before he jumped into NASCAR)
Saying Kurt Busch is on the block for the worst 23xi driver is just ignoring the stats, he finished in the top 5 25% of the time, top 10 50% of the time and got a win in only 20 starts with a brand new team within an organization in only its 2nd season.
It's hard as there has only been six drivers who have started at least one race for 23XI (Busch, Wallace, Reddick, Ty Gibbs, Travis Pastrana and Kamui Kobyashi) and Ty, Travis and Kamui have never been a full-time driver (Travis and Kamui have one start)
He was my teammate at one point. Great guy and had a tons of talent. I believe if he had better equipment, he could have stay in the series long enough to be more competitive
Jon Wood in the 21 was awful. J.J. Yeley in the 18 I would have picked over Leffler just because he had a full season and it was awful. Jeff Green in the 30 for RCR was unbelievably awful then went to Petty in the 43 car and stunk it up again. Mike Bliss for Haas in the 0, awful. Wherever Ty Dillon is, awful.
Good list, maybe U should do a list of worst drivers with significant teams that are no longer around. Evernham/GEM, Petty Enterprises/RPM. RYR, MWR, DEI, Ganassi, Team Red Bull, Furniture Row Racing, Bill Davis Racing and anyone else I missed
To add on to Quinn Houff, I feel like I remember him entering pit road from the middle or top lines multiple times. I've never seen such a driver problem before 😂
J.J. Yeley did that once, back in 06 during the fall Charlotte race. Wrecked Mark Martin doing so, effectively taking him out of championship contention that year
For RCR, I would honestly also argue Mears was also their worst driver for his awful 2009 season there too Also would argue Jon Wood was even worse Schrader at WBR. Even Jon Wood is self aware abt how bad his racing career was
That Ken schrader little Debbie’s commercial was pretty good though lol. Yeah. It’s a bummer that Bobby labonte laid an egg in the 47 car. He had a chance to win the 2011 Daytona 500. Running second in the last lap
Really the only thing that I strongly disagree with is the Kurt Bush and Bubba Wallace thing, the only reason that Wallace is starting to look as good or better for 23xi than Bush is because the team has gotten better as well as Wallace improving, but at the time in equal equipment Bush was consistently out running Wallace
Bubba’s team had way more issues in the beginning of the season. They were running better by the end. Bubba has also finished higher than his teammate in 31 of his last 54 races.
@@Duval-In-The-Wall I didn’t say he was better, but they weren’t that far off… Bubba had more top 15s and and his average finish was .2 lower. Lets be honest, wins have become somewhat arbitrary. Bubba was in 1st on the last lap at Dega and had the win at Texas until a late caution. Wins fluctuate. Wins take some luck. A little luck and Bubba matches his win total. Just admit they ran about the same, with a slight edge to Reddick. Bubba was Brad K and Reddick was Buescher. Bubba also lead almost 300 laps. Its not like he wasn’t up front just as much. Bubba was also 10th on the season in laps run inside the top 15. Reddick only beat him 6,056 to 5,373.
Still think it’s JJ Yeley with Gibbs. At the time, the 11 was the new third team and understandable that the team took off the following season, JJ took the flagship car and did absolutely nothing with it except cost Mark Martin at Charlotte in 06
Out of all the nascar drivers I have read about, Shane Hmiel is a pretty bad driver. I’ll never forget that time he spun out Dale Jarrett, and when Dale walked across the track, hoping Shane would apologize, Shane just flipped Dale off. You don’t point the middle finger at Dale Jarrett, that’ll get you in trouble for sure!
@@mikewagner9395wrong. David gilliland never won in Yates cars Kenny Wallace subbed for irnie irvan in 1994 Never won At least do research about the team 1st …. Geez
@@DaytonaPrototypesGanassi: Leffler again. DEI: Paul Menard (because Regan Smith won that race, dammit!) Evernham: Patrick Carpentier. Bill Davis: Jeremy Mayfield.
Good stuff. Here are the places where my Adjusted Points+ metric (where 100 is Cup Series average) disagrees (minimum 15 races for a team): Childress: Brian Scott (41 Pts+ index) and Steve Park (53) were worse than Blaney (58). Roush: Good old Kevin Lepage (65) was worse than Dallenbach (68). Spire: Reed Sorenson (14) is the worst among qualified drivers (Houff was a 17 in only 13 races). Rick Ware: B.J. McLeod (17) was statistically worse than Cody Ware (25), but Cody Ware did it in more than double the races (and got himself suspended from the sport), so he makes sense as the pick. Kaulig: Gragson (39) was indeed worse than Justin Haley (79), though Haley was worst among 15+ race qualifiers. Wood Bros: Bill Elliott (43), of all drivers, was worse than Schrader (48). Elliott was in his 50s... but then again, so was Schrader. 23XI: Ty Gibbs (56) was WAY worse than Bubba Wallace (101). Gibbs has a lot fewer starts, but he snuck in under the 15-race minimum. Front Row/Bob Jenkins: Josh Wise (11) was worse than Kvapil (27), and he did it in 1 more start.
To Dave Blaney's credit, the 07 team itself was garbage in '05. It was the 30 team from '04, and that season was just as bad. Sadly, Dave was pretty much a placeholder before Clint got there.
Spire with Ty Dillon should be the worse. Houff ACTUALLY scored 4 top 30s in the 77, while Garrett Smithley in same car in the same year only scored 2 top 30s.
You know youre a crap driver when you are the worst driver for two different teams Giving Super K the nod as the worst is a dirty call. Jon Wood was worse than Super K
Agreed, but he barely ran any races. Tbh though, much as I hate to say it, Bill was a downgrade from Kenny. Kenny at least had a couple of good runs. Bill's best finish was 11th in about 65 races.
For the most part you are spot on. For Trackhouse you could have included Chip Gnassi with them and the same with Legacy could have included Petty Motorsports.
Hendrick: Nadeau, Vickers, Bowman JGR: Spot on Penske: Cindric SHR: *D A N I C A* RCR: Dillon RWR: eh, it's Cody Ware LMC: Gragson Trackhouse, 23XI, and RFK are only a year old rn, so it's too soon to tell
An unpopular opinion, but Cody Ware isn't actually the worst RWR driver. His average driver rating was about 35, which was higher than Josh Bilicki or Garrett Smithley's.
I’d put Johnny Sauter as The Worst for Childress, Ricky Craven wasn’t good at hendrick either, but injury could excuse that, I’d say Matt Tifft for Front Row, and other then that, I agree with the list
Craven actually had a lot of good races with hendrick and dominated a rockingham race but a late caution caused dale jarrett to battle him. Dallenbach never did anything for hendrick. The stats don’t lie
I dont understand why you included Rousch Drivers for RFK. And not Ganassi for Trackhouse or Petty Drivers for GMS. Seems like you selectively chose different criteria for different race teams.
A fun game to play is thinking of who I think the worst driver for each team is gonna be based off of my knowledge of nascar… halfway thru the video, I’ve only gotten 1 right… I think everyone knows which one it was 🤣
Kevin Conway was the worst Frm back then you had to be in the top 35 in owners points to be guaranteed a starting spot. Every week he would fall out of the top 35 and would get bounced to another FRM that was in the top 35 and Gilliland and Kvapil would put it back in … until the sponsorship check bounced, after that they bounced him where he went to drive for Robbie Gordon… and bounce more checks
I kinda wish it included the drivers before a team was renamed or sold, like track house including ganassi, legacy including all of the history of Richard petty motorsports, and even furniture row because they were still a modern team. Still a good video
I'm surprised you didn't pick Kevin LePage as the worst driver for RFK Racing. He was horrible in the #16 car for 1999-2000. Couldn't attract major sponsorship and finished mid pack or worse every race.
And Rick Wilson wouldn’t have been the worst because once again Wally Dallenbach Jr was the worst driver Petty ever hired, look at the dnq’s and poor finishes, at least Rick Wilson could get a mid pack finish every once in a while
Seeing how Noah drove the 42 and how Carson drove the same car to much better results. And also remembering interviews Noah gave the year before when he was in the Xfinity series about how he was scared of these cars and getting hurt. I don't think Noah ever really gave it a true chance I think he was always running scared and running afraid of getting hurt. I think he should go back to Xfinity where he's more comfortable.
Dylan Kwasnieski. No top 5s, only 3 top 10s in the two years he raced full time in the Xfinity. And if I remember correctly, if he wasn't wrecking himself, he was wrecking Kasey Kahne. He lost his sponsorship and was booted. Last I looked, he works in real estate. Then there's Jon Wes Townley. I don't need to say anything more.
@@mikewagner9395not really. Mike skinner finished 2nd in cup races multiple times, finished 11th in points 1 year. Rcr is easily Dave blaney I mean wtf. Look up the rcr stats of blaney. Then look at skinner. Yeah. It’s obvious blaney
@@Denverbroncos87Blaney was 26th in points, in a year where Burton led all of seven laps, and Harvick had three top fives. Steve Park finished 2003 34th in owner points (albeit with Jeff Green also contributing), while Robby won twice and Harvick was contending for the championship. I'd call Park's stint the worst.
Penske has also had a fair share of bad drivers when it comes to their Indycar team in addition to NASCAR. However the worst one has to be Andre Ribero who only raced one season with Penske (1998) & he was awful as he only finished in the Top 10 three times, his highest finish was 7th at Vancouver & finished 22nd in the points that year which is totally unacceptable at a team like Penske. Then with Haas, it seems like every driver with their F1 team with the exceptions of Kevin Magnussen & Romain Grosjean have been terrible, especially Nikita Mazepin who easily has to be the worst driver to have entered F1 in the past 30 years.
Still say Yeyley was worse then Leffler. The 11 was new, so hiccups were expected. Yeyley took a literal Championship winning car and ran mid-to back of the pack almost every race. Then Busch took that same car and Dominated for YEARS.
I knew before clicking on this video that you were going to pick Bubba & Suarez, and that I was going to have to hear all about how they’re both super good and you were forced to pick them. Sad times
Yeah, me too😔. I root for both these guys SO much, plus Bubba is my #1 fave, so I came in here like "It's okay, someone has to be the worst out of 3 and 2 full-time drivers respectively, and they are clearly the ones! It's okay💁🏾♀️." I knew he wasn't gonna say either of them are bad, 'cause they're not☺️! It just makes sense statistically between Suárez (1 win, though an Xfinity champ) & Chastain (4 wins, Champ 4 appearance, consistently up front) and historically between Bubba (6 Truck wins, started racing later than most drivers do) & Kurt (2004 champ, renowned veteran) +Reddick (2× Xfinity champ) for them to be the worst🤷🏾♀️. I also came here knowing everyone else would know and ended up looking for (CIVIL😐, for Bubba) comments that discussed their early success and progression with their teams! Both are definitely getting better, Suárez just has a lot of inconsistencies and Bubba's terrible luck seems to have left for the most part🤗!! For now, they'll probably stay the 2 worst, but not at ALL by lack of skill or talent, they just have less than the others!
Danica by far was the worst. Until I heard her in an interview where she said she never loved racing and was forced by her parents, did I realize she never fit as a race car driver. It’s a shame because so many people believed she as a woman would be a world champion. It all goes to show family and a love of the sport will get you there and not a failure or a fake.
I do hope Bubba improves from this year's standings. He had good races and should've had a win or two (Talladega Spring is a prime example). He just needs to find his groove, improve on his weaknesses, and then he can be more successful. Oh, and he definitely can use the haters for motivation
He had a bit of bad luck in the Texas race. Had the win on 2nd to last restart until the caution. It happened to Denny and Larson too a couple times this season though
I think you’re being a little harsh on Wally Dallenbach Jr. Pretty much everyone who entered the 25 car post Ken Schrader had a bad time. Randy Lajoie, Brian Vickers, Brad Keselowski, Joe Nemechek, Jerry Nadeau, and Chase Elliott. Casey Mears was the final driver to win in the 25.
Who are the worst performing drivers at teams that you can think of?
Kevin Conway, Bro was horrible 💀
@JGR4LIFE kind of debatable
Bubba. Austin Dillon
@@MrRolloBaggins bubba didn’t do that bad this year..Austin however..yeah no..
@@RailenThePlaneNerdYeah.
“Every NASCAR Team’s Worst Driver Ever”
Richard Childress Racing: What do you mean Sheldon Creed doesn’t count?
Yeah probably
RCR big mad 😂
@mjsultimateSheldon wasn’t even stupid either. RC was big mad 😂
Sheldon Creed is an excellent driver in the Xfinity series.
@@TheIceberg Ol' Richard Childress prolly has forgotten what "being pinched in the heat of competition" is like.
This is like a more chill version of Barry McCockiner's videos where he goes over the worst QB's at each NFL team.
Wdym more chill
@@KitsuneGB-hc9zb no swearing mostly
I wonder if that video was his inspiration for this video
This must be a trend rn, cuz fivepointsvids made a “every nfl team’s worst kicker” video
@@TimothyWengerNah, it's Fivesports following McCockiner's idea after McCockiner followed Fivesports's idea
Spire Motorsports is a team that has quietly been building themselves up into a legit team, using the large amount of cup team shutdowns in 2020-2021 to their advantage and are now running three full time cars by next season. In terms of horsepower theyre still well off, but Spire is definitely a successful team in the making
Also, making a Truck Series Team by purchasing a powerhouse Truck Series team like Kyle Busch Motorsports is really interesting. It could be make or break. (Make if Hendrick still has an alliance, break if not [unless another Chevy team from Cup or even Xfinity comes along]).
In terms of the Worst Driver for Spire, it's Ty Dillion. This is because the rotation of previous drivers doesn't count.
To be bad at one top team is one thing, but to be bad at two top teams like Wally Dallenbach Jr screams NASCAR Bust in my eyes
I think Wally kept getting chances, especially with Roush, because he was a successful road racer in Trans-Am and GTO.
David Stremme being on Penske still boggles my mind to this day.
Didn’t Sam Hornish drive the 77 Mobile car for Penske?
@@mikewagner9395Yea but at least Sam won an Indycar championship and won the most iconic Indy 500 finish in history for Penske before he went to their Nascar team
He'd kicked Steve Wallace's butt in Nationwide despite skipping the road courses. Penske figured if Rusty trusted him, he could too.
@@seannolan9857 yet David Stremme had potential but ever since Ryan Newman left the 12 car that ride never had the same speed which is why Brad Keselowski only got moved to the 2 car once Kurt left.
Did everyone forget that he was driving for Chip Ganassi for two years prior to coming to Penske and wasn’t very good on that team, either
Even with the criteria of drivers that had more than a handful of starts, Todd Kluever still ended up making a cameo in this during the Wood Brother's segment.
Nope, that was Ragan.
@@crystaljon Indeed it was. I was completely convinced that was Kluever, and apparently at least a dozen others were as well.
LEFFLER left turn. RIP one hell of a sprint car driver, passed doing what he loved.
Other bad drivers from the current teams:
RFK Racing
- Kevin Lepage (No. 16)
- Chad Little (No. 97)
- Trevor Bayne (No. 6)
Richard Childress Racing
- Jeff Green (No. 30)
Joe Gibbs Racing
- J. J. Yeley (No. 18)
I completely forgot Wally drove for Hendrick. A rare miss.
Same. I saw the pic and thought he was gonna say Craven at first.
Me too, Craven at least won races for a smaller team after leaving Hendrick.
And Craven wasn’t completely awful. In a season and a half, he had 8 top 10s, a couple of poles and won the Winston Open. Not quite up to Hendrick standards, but at least somewhat competitive.
The only reason I know that is because Nascar 2000 on the N64 😂😂
Prime Terry Labonte and Bobby Labonte at Gibbs would’ve been AMAZING
Danica Patrick’s record is impressively bad, mainly because most drivers on her level would get fired from SHR after 1 season
Remember that SHR team weren’t the mess they are now, that was a team that could put multiple cars in the final 8
Making it even worse is that she was actually a pretty good IndyCar driver. She really screwed up making the switch although at the time there was of course a lot more money to be made in NASCAR
@@markc3456
Honestly the one thing I can’t get over, only 1 top 5 finish in 7 full seasons at JRM and SHR. How on earth did she struggle that much?
She was rushed up the ranks. Didn’t have the time to develop. She did have minor improvements in her last couple of years in cup. She rarely causes wrecks in those last years. However she typically got wrecked or was involved. She was just another back marker driver.
@@braedonshelton2305
Backmarker is fair, the results were dreadful. With how random and ridiculous NASCAR is, you’d think she’d fluke a top 5 once or twice in SHR equipment. It’s crazy to me
@@Duval-In-The-Wall I also can't get over the fact that Danica first couldn't finish a duel race and then didn't even make 2 laps at the 2012 Daytona 500. That literally doomed her career from the beginning.
Was not expecting you to be harshfully honest about the team OOtG and you sponsored, im not mad or roasting myself just, respect
8:27 pretty sure JJ Yeley also made starts with the 11 team in 2005, also 2 in 04
Great video concept. Would love to see this done with key teams from the history of the sport (i.e., Petty, MWR, Evernham, Ganassi, DEI, Red Bull, etc).
Agreed 🔥🔥🔥
Those teams would've made more sense than opening the video with trackhouse, lol.
Never thought I'd see an angry Schrader... ever. 9:55.
Just mention Paul Tracy. That will do it.
@@noahcoleman5556Sure. But I've never seen Schrader so mad where he threw things.
(Don't remember if he did in the Paul Tracy incident.)
I think with Roush that Chad Little or Kevin Lepage should have been considered worse than Dallenbach.
SHR is right, even of you count just the Haas years, though Mayfield might be a contender.
With Legacy, PE & RPM should have been considered as you did witb Roush-->RFK. For that I'd go with Christian Fittipaldi or Buckshot Jones.
Maybe Casey Mears at RCR?
All the rest I believe are spot on.
Mears performed better than Blaney.
Blaney: Mears:
Top-10s - 2 Top-10s - 4
AvFn - 24.1 AvFn - 19.8
DNFs - 2 DNFs - 0
Points - 26th Points - 21th
@@crystaljon the reason that I would pick Mears over Blaney is that when Blaney got the ride, that team in particular was new. When Mears got it, it had already been established.
The stats are really close though.
@@highoctanecardsI thought the same tbh. The 07 was a completely restructured and renumberd 30 AOL team in 2005 which never had prior success before. When Mears stepped in, it was alr a known win/title contender with Bowyer and flopped with Mears
Little at least was relatively consistent. Lepage I'd agree on though.
Steve Park's '03 stint in the #30 was worse than Blaney imo.
@@seannolan9857 I totally spaced Park being in the 30 car. Yeah he didn't do very much with that car.
It's safe to say that Dallenbach was a much better commentator than he was a driver.
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He had a better career in Trans Am before coming to NASCAR, winning two championships in the mid 80's (one was with Jack Roush, before he jumped into NASCAR)
Saying Kurt Busch is on the block for the worst 23xi driver is just ignoring the stats, he finished in the top 5 25% of the time, top 10 50% of the time and got a win in only 20 starts with a brand new team within an organization in only its 2nd season.
It's hard as there has only been six drivers who have started at least one race for 23XI (Busch, Wallace, Reddick, Ty Gibbs, Travis Pastrana and Kamui Kobyashi) and Ty, Travis and Kamui have never been a full-time driver (Travis and Kamui have one start)
@@patrickracer43 I expected more from Kamui.
@@gianthand8130 I felt like he met my expectations, since a NASCAR Cup Series stock car is on a different planet from Le Mans Hypercar and Formula One
I've would gone with Kevin Conway for FRM's worst driver.
hardest driver
He was my teammate at
one point. Great guy and had a tons of talent. I believe if he had better equipment, he could have stay in the series long enough to be more competitive
Jon Wood in the 21 was awful. J.J. Yeley in the 18 I would have picked over Leffler just because he had a full season and it was awful. Jeff Green in the 30 for RCR was unbelievably awful then went to Petty in the 43 car and stunk it up again. Mike Bliss for Haas in the 0, awful. Wherever Ty Dillon is, awful.
Jeff Green had a second place finish at Loudon and beat Harvick in points in 2002.
Good list, maybe U should do a list of worst drivers with significant teams that are no longer around. Evernham/GEM, Petty Enterprises/RPM. RYR, MWR, DEI, Ganassi, Team Red Bull, Furniture Row Racing, Bill Davis Racing and anyone else I missed
Had to go back and look--Schrader was a lot more succesful than I had remembered in his years at Hendrick.
Yeah, top five in points a few years.
To add on to Quinn Houff, I feel like I remember him entering pit road from the middle or top lines multiple times. I've never seen such a driver problem before 😂
J.J. Yeley did that once, back in 06 during the fall Charlotte race. Wrecked Mark Martin doing so, effectively taking him out of championship contention that year
10:45 Ty Gibbs (while a replacement driver) didn’t do as well as Bubba
I do agree, but Ty only ran 15 races and it seems like the standard was around 20 or more races in a season so that's why he wasn't listed
I would love a part 2 of this but with teams that no longer exist like Junior Johnson's team, the old#22 Davis car, DEI and so on...
For RCR, I would honestly also argue Mears was also their worst driver for his awful 2009 season there too
Also would argue Jon Wood was even worse Schrader at WBR. Even Jon Wood is self aware abt how bad his racing career was
He only ran four or five Cup races though.
Hard to race withdrawing from opiates
That Ken schrader little Debbie’s commercial was pretty good though lol.
Yeah. It’s a bummer that Bobby labonte laid an egg in the 47 car. He had a chance to win the 2011 Daytona 500. Running second in the last lap
Wally Dallenbach Jr was so bad I've never even heard of him until this video, and I've spent most of my 22 years of life watching Nascar
I had heard of him but only really knew him as a TV commentator
Really the only thing that I strongly disagree with is the Kurt Bush and Bubba Wallace thing, the only reason that Wallace is starting to look as good or better for 23xi than Bush is because the team has gotten better as well as Wallace improving, but at the time in equal equipment Bush was consistently out running Wallace
Wallace gets eaten by most of his teammates. Buescher, Kurt Busch, and now Reddick have his number
Bubba’s team had way more issues in the beginning of the season. They were running better by the end. Bubba has also finished higher than his teammate in 31 of his last 54 races.
@@Duval-In-The-Wallbubba wallace finished better than Reddick in more races this season
@@historybuff1483
Reddick had more wins, more top 5s, and made it further in the playoffs
@@Duval-In-The-Wall I didn’t say he was better, but they weren’t that far off…
Bubba had more top 15s and and his average finish was .2 lower. Lets be honest, wins have become somewhat arbitrary. Bubba was in 1st on the last lap at Dega and had the win at Texas until a late caution. Wins fluctuate. Wins take some luck. A little luck and Bubba matches his win total. Just admit they ran about the same, with a slight edge to Reddick. Bubba was Brad K and Reddick was Buescher. Bubba also lead almost 300 laps. Its not like he wasn’t up front just as much. Bubba was also 10th on the season in laps run inside the top 15. Reddick only beat him 6,056 to 5,373.
I think you are pretty much spot on! Great research!
Still think it’s JJ Yeley with Gibbs. At the time, the 11 was the new third team and understandable that the team took off the following season, JJ took the flagship car and did absolutely nothing with it except cost Mark Martin at Charlotte in 06
Out of all the nascar drivers I have read about, Shane Hmiel is a pretty bad driver. I’ll never forget that time he spun out Dale Jarrett, and when Dale walked across the track, hoping Shane would apologize, Shane just flipped Dale off. You don’t point the middle finger at Dale Jarrett, that’ll get you in trouble for sure!
I like to see this but for teams no longer around
I want to see the worst Robert Yates Driver: Either Kenny Irwin or Travis Kvapil. The other drivers there won races in his cars
@@mikewagner9395wrong.
David gilliland never won in Yates cars
Kenny Wallace subbed for irnie irvan in 1994
Never won
At least do research about the team 1st …. Geez
Yeah, would be interesting to see Ganassi, DEI, Evernham, Bill Davis, etc. included in this discussion
@@DaytonaPrototypesGanassi: Leffler again.
DEI: Paul Menard (because Regan Smith won that race, dammit!)
Evernham: Patrick Carpentier.
Bill Davis: Jeremy Mayfield.
RIP Jason Lefler
the "1969, nice" sounded so forced and unnatural 2:50
DEI would have been a good one to include
Pretty easy answer. Paul Menard.
Good stuff. Here are the places where my Adjusted Points+ metric (where 100 is Cup Series average) disagrees (minimum 15 races for a team):
Childress: Brian Scott (41 Pts+ index) and Steve Park (53) were worse than Blaney (58).
Roush: Good old Kevin Lepage (65) was worse than Dallenbach (68).
Spire: Reed Sorenson (14) is the worst among qualified drivers (Houff was a 17 in only 13 races).
Rick Ware: B.J. McLeod (17) was statistically worse than Cody Ware (25), but Cody Ware did it in more than double the races (and got himself suspended from the sport), so he makes sense as the pick.
Kaulig: Gragson (39) was indeed worse than Justin Haley (79), though Haley was worst among 15+ race qualifiers.
Wood Bros: Bill Elliott (43), of all drivers, was worse than Schrader (48). Elliott was in his 50s... but then again, so was Schrader.
23XI: Ty Gibbs (56) was WAY worse than Bubba Wallace (101). Gibbs has a lot fewer starts, but he snuck in under the 15-race minimum.
Front Row/Bob Jenkins: Josh Wise (11) was worse than Kvapil (27), and he did it in 1 more start.
To Dave Blaney's credit, the 07 team itself was garbage in '05. It was the 30 team from '04, and that season was just as bad. Sadly, Dave was pretty much a placeholder before Clint got there.
i love that danica is on the thumbnails of these vids
Joe Gibbs Racing: JJ Yeley
It'd be cool if he did this video but did all the defunct teams from 1990 - 2023
Cool yes, but the video would be *really* long. Over a hundred teams have folded in that time frame.
@@seannolan9857 could always break it up and make it a series
Ty Gibbs raced for 23XI in 2022 racing for an injured Kurt Busch he was easily the worst not Bubba
I miss seeing Houff spin out weekly
Spire with Ty Dillon should be the worse. Houff ACTUALLY scored 4 top 30s in the 77, while Garrett Smithley in same car in the same year only scored 2 top 30s.
You know youre a crap driver when you are the worst driver for two different teams
Giving Super K the nod as the worst is a dirty call. Jon Wood was worse than Super K
Agreed, but he barely ran any races.
Tbh though, much as I hate to say it, Bill was a downgrade from Kenny. Kenny at least had a couple of good runs. Bill's best finish was 11th in about 65 races.
you forgot RFK racing formerly known as Roush Racing
For the most part you are spot on. For Trackhouse you could have included Chip Gnassi with them and the same with Legacy could have included Petty Motorsports.
Stremme Ganassi
Petty=Brian Scott
@@jamesbraun9842 I would agree. Might of went with Bubba for Petty, but Scott is a good choice also. 👍🏻
@@seen48Bubba was pretty good driving for Petty, Scott was god awful
Hendrick: Nadeau, Vickers, Bowman
JGR: Spot on
Penske: Cindric
SHR: *D A N I C A*
RCR: Dillon
RWR: eh, it's Cody Ware
LMC: Gragson
Trackhouse, 23XI, and RFK are only a year old rn, so it's too soon to tell
😂 all three of those Hendricks guys have raced for wins. Nowhere near dallenbach or Casey mears. You know nothing
Nadeau won a race with hendrick and had many top tens with the team….
@kuromori6200dallenbach was worse than mears at hendrick…
Rcr- Dillon?!
It’s blaney. Blaney did nothing in the car.
@@joebrock2470 Mears also won a race for them. Complain all you want about fuel mileage, it's still a win.
I remember how horrible Kevin Conway was for front row motorsports, would picked him over Travis
Austin Dillon worst RCR driver hands down what the actual f?? Lol
An unpopular opinion, but Cody Ware isn't actually the worst RWR driver. His average driver rating was about 35, which was higher than Josh Bilicki or Garrett Smithley's.
I’d put Johnny Sauter as The Worst for Childress, Ricky Craven wasn’t good at hendrick either, but injury could excuse that, I’d say Matt Tifft for Front Row, and other then that, I agree with the list
Craven actually had a lot of good races with hendrick and dominated a rockingham race but a late caution caused dale jarrett to battle him. Dallenbach never did anything for hendrick. The stats don’t lie
Common denominator for most bad drivers…
More developmental time was needed for him or her, but was never given to them.
And the rest are veteran drivers well past their prime.
@@DinsdalePiranha67 Yep.
Jason Leffler was so bad that everyone forgot he even drove for Gibbs
I already know what the worst driver for SHR is gonna be, based off the thumbnail.
I dont understand why you included Rousch Drivers for RFK. And not Ganassi for Trackhouse or Petty Drivers for GMS. Seems like you selectively chose different criteria for different race teams.
A fun game to play is thinking of who I think the worst driver for each team is gonna be based off of my knowledge of nascar… halfway thru the video, I’ve only gotten 1 right… I think everyone knows which one it was 🤣
At least Danica gave NASCAR a go 😊
LOL "a go"? She's worth something like $80 million I could handle that kind failure!!!
She's still not worth simping over.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld how is my opinion "simping"?
She got taken out a lot ,Drove faster cars than in NASCAR
When I heard Wally Dallenbach Jr., I was surprised. I thought Brian Vickers or Casey Mears.
I thought it would be Joe Nemechek or Jerry Nadeau.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld those guys at least each won a race during their tenure
7:13 is a cursed image seeing Quinn Houff then a win sticker next to his name
RIP Lefturn... He was a good driver, it's a shame he didn't succeed in cup
Kevin Conway was the worst Frm back then you had to be in the top 35 in owners points to be guaranteed a starting spot. Every week he would fall out of the top 35 and would get bounced to another FRM that was in the top 35 and Gilliland and Kvapil would put it back in … until the sponsorship check bounced, after that they bounced him where he went to drive for Robbie Gordon… and bounce more checks
“Live look at John wes townly”
Please do Every Modern NASCAR Team's BEST Driver Ever
I kinda wish it included the drivers before a team was renamed or sold, like track house including ganassi, legacy including all of the history of Richard petty motorsports, and even furniture row because they were still a modern team. Still a good video
Jaret knows bad Danica gets clicks
Dave Marcis he was too old and was really good at spinning and not making the show and I think he owned his own team lmao
For Trackhouse you could’ve pulled a driver from Chip Ganassi or DEI, considering Trackhouse can be tracked back to DEI.
I'm surprised you didn't pick Kevin LePage as the worst driver for RFK Racing. He was horrible in the #16 car for 1999-2000. Couldn't attract major sponsorship and finished mid pack or worse every race.
Bubba Wallace has finished better than his teammate in 31 of the last 54 races…
Rick Wilson dodged being mentioned as Richard Petty’s worst driver ever by one year of them changing their name
And Rick Wilson wouldn’t have been the worst because once again Wally Dallenbach Jr was the worst driver Petty ever hired, look at the dnq’s and poor finishes, at least Rick Wilson could get a mid pack finish every once in a while
Seeing how Noah drove the 42 and how Carson drove the same car to much better results. And also remembering interviews Noah gave the year before when he was in the Xfinity series about how he was scared of these cars and getting hurt. I don't think Noah ever really gave it a true chance I think he was always running scared and running afraid of getting hurt. I think he should go back to Xfinity where he's more comfortable.
Dylan Kwasnieski. No top 5s, only 3 top 10s in the two years he raced full time in the Xfinity. And if I remember correctly, if he wasn't wrecking himself, he was wrecking Kasey Kahne. He lost his sponsorship and was booted. Last I looked, he works in real estate.
Then there's Jon Wes Townley. I don't need to say anything more.
I'm a little surprised Michael Waltrip didnt make the list. Maybe not recent enough?
He forgot MWR.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld the video is current teams…. So…. It’s just common sense that teams who don’t exist today are not in the video
Kevin Conway was WAY worst than Travis Kvapil at Front Row Racing. He literally had to keep switching numbers to ensure he could get into the race.
Honestly, i think you could have said robby Gordon instead of dave Blaney for rcr, they both performed horribly
But Robby got 3 wins for them.
Robby Gordon won a couple races at RCR
Mike Skinner could have been mentioned. Good truck driver, terrible cup driver
@@mikewagner9395not really. Mike skinner finished 2nd in cup races multiple times, finished 11th in points 1 year.
Rcr is easily Dave blaney
I mean wtf. Look up the rcr stats of blaney. Then look at skinner. Yeah. It’s obvious blaney
@@Denverbroncos87Blaney was 26th in points, in a year where Burton led all of seven laps, and Harvick had three top fives. Steve Park finished 2003 34th in owner points (albeit with Jeff Green also contributing), while Robby won twice and Harvick was contending for the championship. I'd call Park's stint the worst.
Penske has also had a fair share of bad drivers when it comes to their Indycar team in addition to NASCAR. However the worst one has to be Andre Ribero who only raced one season with Penske (1998) & he was awful as he only finished in the Top 10 three times, his highest finish was 7th at Vancouver & finished 22nd in the points that year which is totally unacceptable at a team like Penske. Then with Haas, it seems like every driver with their F1 team with the exceptions of Kevin Magnussen & Romain Grosjean have been terrible, especially Nikita Mazepin who easily has to be the worst driver to have entered F1 in the past 30 years.
I’d say Ryan preece was worse then Labonte in JTG but only by a little bit
Austin Dillon is the worst RCR driver of all time tbh
Still say Yeyley was worse then Leffler. The 11 was new, so hiccups were expected. Yeyley took a literal Championship winning car and ran mid-to back of the pack almost every race. Then Busch took that same car and Dominated for YEARS.
You do realize Casey Mears also drove the 07 full time and never recorded a top 5
The race did something similar a couple years ago on every current F1 teams worst drivers
For RCR I would have put Mike Skinnier as the worst he had multiple sessions in that ride with no wins
JJ Yeley not being on this list shows how much of a GOAT he really is
I knew before clicking on this video that you were going to pick Bubba & Suarez, and that I was going to have to hear all about how they’re both super good and you were forced to pick them. Sad times
😂😂😂 I felt it coming as well. I laughed knowing he really had no choice.😂 I bet his heart was just pounding.
@@benredacted8468 it’s so crazy how these guys are put in a box on their OWN channels. Estepp is no different
@@WorldsOkayistGuitarPlayer crazy how they put themselves there
Yeah, me too😔. I root for both these guys SO much, plus Bubba is my #1 fave, so I came in here like "It's okay, someone has to be the worst out of 3 and 2 full-time drivers respectively, and they are clearly the ones! It's okay💁🏾♀️."
I knew he wasn't gonna say either of them are bad, 'cause they're not☺️! It just makes sense statistically between Suárez (1 win, though an Xfinity champ) & Chastain (4 wins, Champ 4 appearance, consistently up front) and historically between Bubba (6 Truck wins, started racing later than most drivers do) & Kurt (2004 champ, renowned veteran) +Reddick (2× Xfinity champ) for them to be the worst🤷🏾♀️.
I also came here knowing everyone else would know and ended up looking for (CIVIL😐, for Bubba) comments that discussed their early success and progression with their teams! Both are definitely getting better, Suárez just has a lot of inconsistencies and Bubba's terrible luck seems to have left for the most part🤗!! For now, they'll probably stay the 2 worst, but not at ALL by lack of skill or talent, they just have less than the others!
Danica by far was the worst. Until I heard her in an interview where she said she never loved racing and was forced by her parents, did I realize she never fit as a race car driver. It’s a shame because so many people believed she as a woman would be a world champion. It all goes to show family and a love of the sport will get you there and not a failure or a fake.
I thought for RFK it was going to be Ted Musgrave....but then I saw his stats
Yup…. All it takes is looking at stats….
Musgrave was at least in contention for wins and had some top-10 points finishes.
7th in 1995
Great thumbnail lol
I do hope Bubba improves from this year's standings. He had good races and should've had a win or two (Talladega Spring is a prime example).
He just needs to find his groove, improve on his weaknesses, and then he can be more successful. Oh, and he definitely can use the haters for motivation
He had a bit of bad luck in the Texas race. Had the win on 2nd to last restart until the caution. It happened to Denny and Larson too a couple times this season though
I think you’re being a little harsh on Wally Dallenbach Jr. Pretty much everyone who entered the 25 car post Ken Schrader had a bad time. Randy Lajoie, Brian Vickers, Brad Keselowski, Joe Nemechek, Jerry Nadeau, and Chase Elliott. Casey Mears was the final driver to win in the 25.
Ricky Craven in the Hendrick #25/#50 was rough in the late 90's
Wow I didn’t even know David Stremme was a NASCAR driver!
I only know him from his wife who is a reporter on Wing Nation.
Dont forget that Kevin Conway also ran for FRM.
Frontrow HAS to be Kevin Conway. He never finished witching 5 laps of the leader in any race.
Furniture Row:
Best:Truex
Worst:Wallace
This video helped me remember david stremme was a cup series driver😂😂😂
I think for Front Row, Kevin Conway was way worse (or at least that's how I remember that time).
I wholeheartedly agree. Conway was usually multiple laps behind Gilliland and Kvapil.
How does Brendan Gaughn’s Penske run stack up compared to David Stremme?
I think these are fair choices. I would argue that Kevin Conway was worse than Travis Kvapil at Front Row.