Adventures With UA OX Part 2: Dan & Mick Record Songs At Real World Studios! - That Pedal Show
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
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Late in 2017, we had the great pleasure of spending a day at Real World Studios. realworldstudios.com/
Universal Audio’s OX Amp Top Box was being released, so we thought it would be fun to try it in a proper musical situation. Here's the first video: • That Pedal Show - Adve...
This episode is the long-awaited Part 2, where we reflect on the day, the finished tracks and our experiences with OX.
HUGE thanks…
- Patrick and Fraser from Real World for their time, skill and super Fonzy-cool.
- Chris and Tom from Universal Audio who engineered; Tom produced and mixed the tracks, including the vocal sessions. Hero!
- Our wonderful drummer, Dougie Mussard
- Simon Whitehead for his massive capacity for indulging our egos.
- Tim Oliver and everybody at Real World
- Jamie Masters at Echo Studios
- Universal Audio www.uaudio.com/
We’ve released the tracks via…
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NOTES & CREDITS
All songs written by Mick Taylor & Daniel Steinhardt (© Because Tone Records 2018. All Rights Reserved).
Guitars, bass, vocals: Mick Taylor & Daniel Steinhardt
Drums: Dougie Mussard
• Engineered by Chris Wright, Patrick Phillips & Tom Waterman
• Assisted by Fraser Latimer
• Produced & Mixed by Tom Waterman
• Mastered by Dave Collins - collinsaudio.com
• Filmed & Edited by Simon Whitehead
• Recorded at Real World Studios, Bath - realworldstudios.com
• Vocals recorded at Echo Studios, Buckingham - www.echostudios.org.uk
• All electric guitar sounds 100% OX - uaudio.com/ox
• Recorded & mixed exclusively with Universal Audio Apollo interfaces
Pedals in Mick’s Track
• Analog Man Sun Face BC183
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• Fulltone Octafuzz
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• Kingsley Maiden D
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• Analog Man / Maxon OD9 with Bad Bob
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• Analog Man ARDX 20 Dual Analog Delay
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• Hamstead Signature Analogue Trem
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• TheGigRig G2
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Pedals in Dan’s track
• Analog Man Sun Face NKT Red Dot
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• Analog Man Bad Bob
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• Keeley D&M Drive
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• Mooer E-Lady Flanger
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• Analogman ARDX20 Delay
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• Strymon TimeLine
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• TC Electronic Hall Of Fame 2
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro: 0:00
- What are we doing? 0:43
- What has this taken so long? 1:16
- How did this begin? 1:47
- What is OX? 2:01
- Why we were intrigued by OX: 3:43
- We wrote songs and went to Real World! 5:48
- Dougie deserves a honk: 6:41
- What gear did we take? 8:09
- Vocals? 11:56 Get over it: 13:20
- The value of a great producer: 13:30
- The final tracks are ALL OX: 15:45
- Mick's track - All of Me: 16:06
- …and discussion: 20:02
- Mick's guitar solo - mics & OX comparison: 22:17
- Interaction of guitar and speaker? 26:17
- Overall impressions - Mick: 28:30
- Discussion on the OX'S attenuation: 30:30
- Mick's intro guitar: Collings & Marshall: 32:10 (33:18)
- Dan's track - Blistered: 38:58
- …and discussion: 43:00
- More (b)ass than class: 43:30
- Dan's AC30 & D&M Drive & flanger & delay discussion: 44:04
- Dan's solo part - mics and OX: 46:12
- What have we learned? 51:26
Guitars in this episode:
• Collings 290 DCS - Mick’s video bit.ly/2dDG96k
• Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - Mick’s video bit.ly/2cQv3yT
• Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster - Dan’s video bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• Gretsch G6118T Players Edition Anniversary - Dan’s video • That Pedal Show - Our ...
• Collings CJ35 - no video yet
Amps used for the tracks
• Two Rock Classic Reverb Signature / 212 cabinet / TR12-65B speakers
• Marshall 1987x head / 1960AX cabinet / Celestion G12M Greenback speakers
• Vox AC30 with 2x 12-inch Celestion Alnico Blue
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The comments you make from about 51:40 got me thinking. So much online content in relation to guitar is essentially 'consumer porn' and I really think that the obsession with obtaining more and more gear that it sometimes propagates can be totally counter productive towards actually making / playing music. I've always like what you do because a great deal of it is educational and framed within the context of how a piece of gear can be used as a tool to get the results you are looking for in a 'real life' situation. I think that the prospect of further exploration of how gear can be used creatively etc is super exciting
Thank you Andrew. It’s always tough because our love of music is symbiotic with the gear fetishism. I love Strats because of SRV. I love Two Rock because of Matt Schofield and John Mayer. And then comes the point where you need to do something with it and that’s the tough part. The feedback has been so positive so far that Dan and I are already discussing how we can do more of this in a way that’s not too indulgent and has value for the TPS audience. Should be fun! Thanks again!
Awesome! And don't get me wrong, I'm 100% a fellow fetishist!
That Pedal Show who cares about being indulgent. You guys are great musicians and it’s ok to show off your talents whenever possible.
Also referred to as 'prosumerism'
Exactly! Just trimed down the pedalboard in order to just get back to playing. Liberating...
Loved the talk at the end of the video - that you're going to have more context when talking about pedals and guitar tone because you'll be actually making music. This is the kind of perspective we've been learning from guys like Joey Landreth and Josh Smith, who play music live and in the studio all the time. That's where it's at for me; my two hobbies are playing in a weekend band and doing little recording projects. I know I'll never be the very best, but I can still enjoy what I can do at my level. It's not about celebrating mediocrity, either, it's about making music for the joy of it, doing my best, but accepting my current limitations.
I recently bought an OX for headphone practice - massive indulgence as I don’t get to often record, but my giddy goodness what a joy to play with my valve amp and pedals with headphones and have a great sound. Every headphone solution has been bitterly disappointing up to now, but (with young child in house) this has increased my play time 3 fold. Love it!
That rythm guitar playing, Dan!!! Such a groove. That solo playing Mick!! Tone from heaven and hell. . And...that creativity from both of you. Good on you. Fig leafs thrown and no reason for any shame at all. Brave and inspiring. Keep it coming. This made me very happy! Now get David Rhodes on the show!
This was possibly the best show ever! The tunes, the context, the analysis. I felt like I learned loads and got inspired! Keep this format coming guys!!
Hooooray!
The track sounds fantastic. I see a that pedal show album in the future.
We’d have laughed at that not so long ago. Now it looks like it will happen. Weirdness! Thanks Colin!
YES!!!!
@@ThatPedalShow Yeeessssss!!!!!
PLEASE DO THAT, I`ll buy the vinyl!!!
And Dan nailed it, too. As said, the Neil Finn influence is clear and excellent, and I also felt shades of Gilmour & Squeeze.
More from you both, please.
That feels inevitable at this point Rob. Thank you!
It´s been almost two years since this video and I can´t get enough of it, I still get so inspired by you guys, I know I´m just a hobbyist but this videos makes me want to continue improving.
Watching this just makes me want a "That Pedal Show Album." Sounded pretty great.
Looks like that might happen Grant. Although Gawd knows when. :9)
Really hearing the Crowded House influence in the harmonies in Dan's track. Love it
Lol, obviously posted before I heard the Neil Finn comment!
oh yes! give me that! this is phenomenal. you guys always succeed at achieving such a multi-layered insight into what all of this «gear stuff» is for - making music! just bloody great.
Honestly this is one of my favorite videos you have put out in a while. I love the fact that you are putting it into context. My guitar world right now is being in a band in the middle of recording so i can really relate to this video. Great video
This is so good and inspiring! I love the sentiment about how we now take all we've learned from watching you guys forever and actually really practically applying it. Thank you!
Sure someone has already said it but we need a "more ass than class" TPS shirt. Wonderful episode gentleman. Definitely need more of this full track goodness from you guys.
Tracks were great! Sounded awesome! Even more respect for you guys and your chops! Thanks for putting yourselves out there! Just be yourselves and enjoy the music!
Being able to hear things in a musical context will really make the show practical. Looking forward to the ride this takes us on!!! 😀👍
Thank you very much for taking us on this journey - great songs! Please keep doing these types of videos that put all the gear-related content into perspective. It was really inspiring!
Cheers Will, that’s the plan :)
I really am enjoying how this show continues to evolve and grow. Great show guys. Loved both songs.
I am 100% with where you are taking this show and your selves. It is great to be on the journey with you two!
You two are so much fun to watch and listen to. I am really looking forward to hearing more of the music you’ll make going forward! Great tracks!
This CREATIVE OUTPUT is fantastic. Thanks for taking us along for the evolution of TPS. Best thing on the tube. Most inspirational. Ready for the Album that can generate from this.
Absolutely the best music and guitar channel on UA-cam
As a hobbyist songwriter, home recordist, and guitar player, this is quite simply inspiring. Hoorah! Great songs too guys. I was moved by each track. Bravo!
This is prob the best show y’all ever did congratulations guys.... love it more of this please!
Wow gentleman! That was something that I was not expecting at all! Now - we all want an album!!!! I loved it so much!
Mik your solo was sick man and what a voice! More please. Dan you too sir... just a big wow guys. More more more. Inspiring!
Bravo!!! Great to see you two stretching out and putting your talents on display. Fun to watch
and highly informative. Killer tones to boot.....
Dan's track is so glovishly sweet and great song writing work. Love it!
So glad to have met you guys in London! Buncha awesome dudes!
wonderful songs, wonderful tones...thank you guys!
Every time I see you guys I think to myself how lucky I've been to hang out with you in Brighton. You're the best. (PS Mick- the offer to have my Landau strat on the show still stands!)
AHhh guys, your rock!!!! What an incredible show, as usual. The tracks...ohh the tracks. Congrats TPS! Always making the best of my Fridays, thank you for that.
Massive thank you guys! The tracks are GREAAAAT! They sound HUGE! And thanks for, as you said, to put everything you do every week in context. Really appreciate that. Keep going strong. If you will make an album I will buy three copies!
So pleased about the conclusion you reached. The proliferation of 'gear' videos overwhelms the videos of hearing the gear in a musical context. Many is the time I will see gear demos and search for such and such 'live band' or 'live gig' hoping to hear it in context. The reason we love this gear is because we love music but a lot of MusicTube seems to skip the second bit. Your Graham Coxon interview was so revealing in the way he basically said "I don't really know what any of this does it just sounds good and I enjoy playing it".
So three cheers to more musical gear demos. I look forward to seeing/hearing what develops. As ever, keep up the good work!
Oh yes. I've been waiting for this! I'm on the verge of buying one. Thanks so much. You guys are awesome!
Great show! Love seeing you guys in the studio playing songs! More of this please.
Great episode guys.... warm greetings from Panama!!!
what an awesome video, I've owned an Ox since December 2022 and it's become the one piece of gear that if it ever goes missing or stops working, I'll definitely buy another one. It makes recording and practicing so much easier. Thanks UA and Thanks TPS for this amazing video of the capabilities of the OX. Much appreciated..
Todd from KY here, both are awesome guys!!!!!!
Wow I’ve been a fan of the show for a long time but I absolutely love the direction you guys went with this. I love hearing everything in context.
Mick, the bit at 53:11 really inspired me and It feels like the kick in the ass I need!! What a brilliant little pearl of wisdom. Thank you.
That’s awesome Jeff - that’s the best possible effect this show can have. Motivate people to make and enjoy music. Good for the soul, good for the brain, good for life. As long as the ONLY reason you do it is because you love it. Otherwise it can be a giant PItA!
All in all, SUCH genuine, authentic content! I Really love ALL that you guys are, and the whole of everyone on your team that brings us your banter! Bang on, bloody goodness!
Wow. Thanks Rory, that is high, high praise. Thank you so much. :0)
Wow! More of this please, much more!
Thanks for a great show TPS!
Love the format of hearing guitar sounds in the context of a track! Great job!
Maaaaaaaan these are great songs! I'm bobbing my head here! You guys are an inspiration and I thank you.
Great job guys! what a nice experience to go to a studio with your favorite toys. Congratulations, beautiful tunes and tones.
Pumped to see where this goes. Great songs. INCREDIBLE content!
Seriously- much respect guys- the tracks sounded fantastic, from the song writing, playing and the production quality.
One of the best shows you've ever done! This is tons of fun to fly on the wall with you. More of this please.
Best episode yet. Really great songwriting, playing (of course), and camera work.
I was just heading over here to re-re-watch part one of this video as I have just order myself an OX and there you were, with the long awaited part 2! 😃
Awesomeness. Thanks guys! Can’t wait to receive the OX now..
Oh my gosh! Both tracks sound ace! The vocals!!! Definitely buying the tracks!!
How appropriate that you did this a Real World studios as the OX is not a perfect recreation but rather a real world solution for those of us who can't record loud amps in our recording situations.
Bingo!
We need an album!!! I'm not kidding....these two tracks are some of the best music I've heard in quite some time!! Love it!!
Ah, cheers Tom, that’s very kind. It’s looking more and more likely :)
Loved this episode.
I love everything about this video. The songs themselves, the studio footage & of course the discussion. Fan-bloody-tastic!
Thank you Leigh!
For me, one of your most interesting videos so far... keep up the good work!
Best episode so far! Great tracks guys!
Thank you so much for this guys! I can honestly say as a follower of TPS from early on that the lessons in these videos have been invaluable to my growth as a player, performer, creative, you name it... You guys came along at a pivotal time for me personally as I had made a decision to try my hand at being a professional musician and truthfully don’t think I would’ve made it through certain hurdles and roadblocks without the love of this community and content of these videos. Cheers guys, love the tunes, killer as always
That is a truly wonderful thing to hear Justin. The whole point of doing any of this is to enjoy music and playing, so if we’re helping anybody to do that, we are WINNING! Thanks for sharing that. :0)
Love this. Great to see things being put into real world context. Killer solo sounds too!
We all love it when you guys are having too much fun! More of this please, with live and recorded guitars & FX in context. It feels like a natural progression of what the show is all about to me. Nice studio scarf Mick - always a winner!
this one was amazing to watch! so insightful! thanks for putting the effort guys!
Great episode and killer tracks! It is so important to see the conversation on gear redirect to musicianship and creativity. Thanks, gents!
GREAT episode! I love hearing you guys create music, and I welcome more of it in the future. Great episode!
Those are great songs! You guys never disappoint!
Love the music ! great job guys . Yes real world ,live show and studio . This pedal was great in this circumstance,not to mention guitars and amps. Love it man . Yes please more . Thanks guys .
My favorite channel on ALL of UA-cam.
"In Context" undeniably informative and entertaining ... this is why I watch every week. Endlessly interesting. Well done, gentlemen.
I really enjoyed this video, having listened to both the first and second parts before and after (this week) I bought an Ox. I understand the excitement and inspiration now. Thanks for letting us in on your journey!
Your music... guys, you're so good. Really love it. Keep going... you should make more music like this. People (our fans) will love it.
I appreciate you guys a lot. Well done, lads. Well done.
MAN ALIVE YOU GUYS!! This show has been an exhilerating, moving and fascinating confirmation of what musicians you are. (AND what a legend of an awesome drummer.) Keep keep doing it, for it's my pleasure.
BRILLIANT!!
Bloody hell, thanks Paul! Very kind!
Great sounds, playing, songs. So cool to see you guys doing this. Thanks for all of the informative vids, especially this one!
That was terrific, loved both songs. You guys are just the best and a real treasure to the guitar community.
Blimey. Thanks Doug!
never enough. Great song. great vocals. sounded awesome
This is great guys! It’s good to see stuff like this as a reminder that all the noodling and all the gear matters most when you can put it into context of great songs and music. That and of course practicing actual songs so when you get to piece it all together is makes sense as a whole. Cheers.
Fantastic! I loooove your vocals. Very cool to see you sweat and give it a real go! Keep on doing that!
2 songs by you guys and a new release by Joey, all in one day! Frickin Awesome!!!!
Looking forward to your combined creativity. It is about the music. All the pedal/gear geekery on the planet doesn’t really mean much without using it in a musical context! Love it!
Awesome stuff guys! The solo tone with the strat! Holy Moly!
Thank you guys. This vid was directly in line with why I purchased the OX... to get great tones for recording without having to muck about with micing and such. I need that time and room for creative flow. Much appreciated. Can't wait to dig in and see what the OX can do.
Mick, that solo is a bloody freight train.
Dan, your singing style is fantastic, and I absolutely love the vocals that follow the beginning of the guitar solo.
Brilliant stuff, both of you.
Dan's track has a real heartbreakers feel to it. Love it
I look forward to hearing some pedals and different setups in a band context. I'm sure that it will be illuminating to many about what they prefer, and what works for them in what context. Saying that though, the best thing to see is you guys both having fun, because it inspires many of us to re-focus and just have a bit of fun with our music too!
Outstanding!
I'm really impressed with both of your songs. Good stuff! I don't know why but I was surprised. I guess I should have expected that. You guys rock!
This is OUTSTANDING!
I'm using a setup that maybe can be interesting and very related to this episode: my Bogner Helios is going through a Suhr reactive load and this whole system is routed through a loop of my Line6 Helix; from there I go straight to the board using a couple of IR's in parallel and in stereo.
But not only this, via two separated outputs, I'm going also to a stereo VHT power amp and run a stereo real cabinet setup.
That setup is a dream come true for me and it's heavenly whenever I go out and play: super consistent sound in the PA and MY sound on stage, without the hassle of live mic positioning and such.
Hope that would usefull to someone.
AWESOME work again guys, keep it up, you're a joy for all of us guitar addicted!
Cheers from Milan, Flavio!
Great show guys.
Really like the songs.
What a great song. Touchy, catchy, smart and rocksolid. I had the TV running behind my back and turned around to check for some of my all time faves maybe being resurrected. And then there was Dan ripping it :-) I'd buy the album.
Thank you guys so much for doing this!!! I'm currently mulling over buying an OX and you guys demoed it exactly how I would be using it in the studio!!! Y'all's music is killer!!!!
Thanks for the video and the podcast. I listen to the podcast every week.
Ah, that’s ace, cheers Robert :)
Love the songs and your channel! I truly enjoy what you guys do and your passion for music.
Thank you!
Excellent tracks, guys! Really impressed (surprised?) with both Dan's and Mick's singing, as well as the tones, the songwriting, and the production (both audio and video). Well done! And it's a bonus that this is a super helpful and interesting video. I'm sure I'll come back many times for reference. Do more like this!
Love the show! You guys should be Stoked, both of the tracks sounded great you both played and sang excellent. It’s not easy to track and than Critique your own ART! It is your personal ART and it Rock’s!! Well done👍
Legitimately love Mick’s voice.
Really enjoyed that guys, very well done.
Both tracks are excellent! Keep up the good work!
Wow! The tracks are awesome! Fantastic job guys!
Thank you!
Stellar songs! Love to hear more. Maybe even sooner than a year from now :)
All the major facts are being well documented in this awesome video. I own the OX since a couple of months. Although i´m still a fan of the oldschool way, in my opinion the OX is THE tool to make serious guitar recordings without kickin out of your flat by the landlords. What i like most on this video is, that finally you tested the sounds within a playback. To judge a guitarsound by its own is always just a first hint. The real world is different. In the old days i´ve worked in a guitar shop. When i played Mesa Boogie Amps in front of the customer, they were always impressed about the sound. I had the opportunity to check everything in the band context. Result: The sound wasn´t there. If you play an old Marshall, Vox etc. the sound alone might not be the love at the fist sting. But in a band these kind of british more in the face amps cut through better. Of course at the end everything is about taste, musicstyle and so on. So big up guys for this important video. THANKS and greetz.
Exactly how we feel Carsten, that front edge on the note that can seem a bit offensive is exactly what makes it work in the malaise of a band mix :£
Agree. I have a question about the recording session. Have noticed that you guys are recorded with an UAD Apollo and a Macbook, right? Whats the specs of the Macbook and the Apollo (Quad?). Thanks!
The ox box is brilliant - and seeing as I would not be able to contrast my takes with anything like that studio allows you to do, getting to have the constantly great and highly useful sounds from the ox is a life-saver. My ability to produce studio sounds that could rival the ox are virtually nil, but add the live applications to it and there is no doubt that this bit of gear is a winner. Thanks for finally getting this video out! And the plan to contextualize gear-wankery sounds all the better 🤟
That was a real eyeopener.......!
That`s why my guitarsolos never cuts through in the mix when home recording.
Micks solo did, (to my ears), sound quite bright and harsh, but in the mix.........great!
Thanks guys!
Always nice to learn something new.