Why Darth Sidious Became Such a Skilled Duelist (His training Under Darth Plagueis)

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  • @ryanhernandez5632
    @ryanhernandez5632 2 місяці тому +11

    Sid is the best with Lazer Swords to flex on jedi. He's taken the very image of what jedi deems a weapon of peace and restraint into a precise ballad of death.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 2 місяці тому +43

    Palatine is a badass lightsaber duelist when he killed three Jedi so easy he was not messing around

    • @drkinferno72
      @drkinferno72 2 місяці тому +8

      Three Jedi council members

    • @FriendlyBatDoom
      @FriendlyBatDoom 2 місяці тому +10

      Agreed according to George Lucas if you weren't Yoda, Mace, and Anakin you didn't stand a chance against him as a swordsman or the force. This is in terms of the Jedi. Dooku could potentially as a swordsman in the Sith side.

    • @DarthSidious2212
      @DarthSidious2212 2 місяці тому +2

      Indeed

    • @georgemack473
      @georgemack473 2 місяці тому +1

      The tribe has spoken. This is thee way

    • @ADB358
      @ADB358 2 місяці тому +2

      @@FriendlyBatDoom Maul doesn't seem far off in terms of skill with the blade. I would bet Dooku could make him work.

  • @lorenzor7993
    @lorenzor7993 2 місяці тому +9

    I always love when Tenebrass gets some credits. Really cool relation between him and Plagueis.

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 2 місяці тому +22

    Yeah truly the grim reaper with a light blader yeah.

  • @venkelos6996
    @venkelos6996 2 місяці тому +9

    One thing that always surprised me about Sidious; he found ways to fabricate multiple priceless, Indestructible lightsabers. I know some elements of the lore might not be canon, anymore, but I seem to recall that, at least at one point, Palpatine had a lightsaber housed in phrik; basically Indestructible, and this was practically dip-coated in electrum; a very precious metal. That one lightsaber seems a bit silly, considering how he never really planned to let most people see it, but then it turned out he had three? And possibly more? At least one survived to the Vader days, as he gave it to an unsatisfied Darth Vader to use, while working to replace his own, but I guess it's good to know he found uses for his family money, and that Plagueis left him, if you will, to fabricate such marvels.

    • @logicplague2077
      @logicplague2077 2 місяці тому

      I don't know what it is in canon, but IRL electrum is an alloy of ~75% gold and ~25% silver, also called "green gold" for its tint. Depending on the mixture, it's kinda hard to tell unless you hold it next to some pure yellow gold. It can also be found in nature occasionally, as the metals can be found together, albeit with random percentages of each.

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 2 місяці тому +5

    Sidious was perfect lightsaber duelist! He was amazing! Such skill,speed,agility. Amazing! Reflexes. Have a great day too😀

    • @TheStellarmanCo.
      @TheStellarmanCo. 2 місяці тому +2

      Yoda didn't think so, actually mused to himself during their duel that Sidious wasn't precise, which is why Yoda disarmed him off screen

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 місяці тому +1

      Sidious used more force enchance attacks than pure blade skills like exar kun EU luke Skywalker yoda mace dooku anakin obi wan

  • @DarthSidious2212
    @DarthSidious2212 2 місяці тому +100

    Guys its mee

  • @lewieanderson6579
    @lewieanderson6579 2 місяці тому +9

    Sidious was playing possum to mace windu so anakin could prove his worth to sidious. He foresaw this before mace and the 3 stooges showed up.

    • @thejazzmusician
      @thejazzmusician 2 місяці тому +1

      Mace comes in and over powers the emperor-George Lucas ROTS commentary

    • @Avian-24
      @Avian-24 2 місяці тому

      Completely agree; he needed Anakin to do what he did so that he could complete his fall to the darkside. The novel sweepinglyplays to this. Sidious could feel the turmoil in Anakin while he was still in the Jedi temple - he let Mace get the "upperhand" as Anakin entered the area so that he could defend Sidious and the knowledge to save Padme. It was the final part of Sidious's machinations with Anakin to make him fall; although he didn't orchestrate the situation, he turned it to his interest like he did everything else he did.

    • @Drew151Proof
      @Drew151Proof 2 місяці тому

      So do you think the emperor could have killed mace windu if he wanted to

    • @Avian-24
      @Avian-24 2 місяці тому

      @@Drew151Proof No doubt. Book and even in the movie his lightning was pushing Mace's saber back on him and Sidious could have blasted that indefinitely. He only stopped as he needed Anakin to make the intervention so as to bring him to his side. Palpatine at that point was peak Sidious. Unlimited power indeed.

  • @nodatastored684
    @nodatastored684 2 місяці тому +8

    Plagueis trained him to kill and to defend himself.... He trained Maul to be a warrior and the others to be spot holders

  • @logicplague2077
    @logicplague2077 2 місяці тому +4

    "To refrain from senseless killing, they wielded force pikes rather than lightsabers, meter long melee weapons used by the Ichani and the Senate Guard. The pikes were equipped with stun modules capable of delivering a shock that could overwhelm the nervous system of most sentients, without causing permanent damage." - Darth Plagueis novel
    They were never there to destroy the people, the only one killed was the last remaining warrior, the strongest. The people of Kurseed viewed this ritual as a right of passage, and the Sith viewed them as fellow servants of the dark side as they were, with one advancing the other through this ritual. Plagueis even remarks that perhaps one day when both had advanced beyond the need for the ritual, they would come to honor them, rather than engage them in battle.

  • @briancohen-doherty4392
    @briancohen-doherty4392 2 місяці тому +5

    His fight With obi wan makes more sense now

  • @centralscrutinizer6108
    @centralscrutinizer6108 2 місяці тому +8

    Mace Windu had him killed until Anakin showed up and screwed the pooch hard. That purple lightsaber is my favorite by far.

  • @dionysisnance4204
    @dionysisnance4204 2 місяці тому +16

    Sidious vs maul and oppress while always live freely in my mind

    • @KING-tz6lo
      @KING-tz6lo 2 місяці тому +2

      Fr that is the number one fight in starwars

    • @HandMeDeals
      @HandMeDeals Місяць тому

      You have become a rival

  • @thebeast9606
    @thebeast9606 2 місяці тому +9

    George Lucas himself said Mace beat Sidius, so why does it matter what others "think"....

    • @logicplague2077
      @logicplague2077 2 місяці тому +4

      Because everyone is entitled to have an opinion. Besides, George also recently showed support for Disney and Kennedy, so we'll take his with a grain of salt..

  • @TheStellarmanCo.
    @TheStellarmanCo. 2 місяці тому +2

    This was good!

  • @InfiniteNaos
    @InfiniteNaos 2 місяці тому +1

    Despite how skilled Sidious was for his era both in saber combat and force feats, in Legends, he’s completely outclassed by both Ancient Jedi & Ancient Sith.
    Tulak Hord, Exar Kun, Valkorian, Darth Bane, Hand Maiden, Grandmaster Luke with some of his descendants, even Count Dooku, etc.

  • @jasonpower6578
    @jasonpower6578 2 місяці тому +1

    Plagueis, Palpatine, Maul: we were good because our master beat the crap out of us 😅

  • @JamesJones-mt9co
    @JamesJones-mt9co 2 місяці тому +1

    this is a review and he did not mention falling rain or that the first ten years of Sidious 's training he was not allowed to even touch a lightsaber , he was only allowed to strengthen his force connection and learn new Dark Side Powers!

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS 2 місяці тому +6

    THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

  • @aster4jaden
    @aster4jaden 2 місяці тому +16

    Give us a Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious show.

    • @Darthraion
      @Darthraion 2 місяці тому +1

      they are that's the new Disney crapolyte show coming out

    • @aster4jaden
      @aster4jaden 2 місяці тому

      @@Darthraion By the Force. 😟

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 місяці тому +2

      You want Disney to ruin it like they have done to star wars? How old are you?

    • @aster4jaden
      @aster4jaden 2 місяці тому

      @@alsimmonshellspawn6021 I'm sorry! I just got swept away by the idea. You're right, Disney needs to keep their hands of Plagueis and just continue to make their garbage.

    • @Darthraion
      @Darthraion 2 місяці тому +1

      @@aster4jaden you're better off finding a indy creator that's capable of making a decent film and supporting them. If you find them let us know

  • @44HardCase
    @44HardCase 2 місяці тому +4

    Palpatine was very good, but I’m glad Mace Windu was able to beat him and would’ve killed Palpatine if not for Anakin stopping Mace.

  • @applejuicejunkie316
    @applejuicejunkie316 2 місяці тому +4

    So there is where Mace comes in and overpowers the emperor. -George Lucas.

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
    @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 2 місяці тому +4

    Plagueis trained him well. In his opinion, amongst the Jedi of the time prior to TPM, only Yoda and Dooku could defeat he or Sidious. By the Clone Wars the number included Mace Windu. Dueling is more than swordsmanship though, but Dooku is probably the best pure swordsman of the lot. Sidious and Yoda are however more powerful. While it is true Sidious probably wins a straight up duel between him and Dooku, on a good day Dooku can beat him.

    • @monatry5533
      @monatry5533 Місяць тому

      Idk in clone wars Dooku admits he would not win
      "Together our power will rival Lord Sidious" Thats what he said to Savage when training him.
      Sidious clowned Maul & Savage, whereas Dooku was struggling with Savage & Ventress

  • @ChristopherNealBUSHIDO49ERS
    @ChristopherNealBUSHIDO49ERS 2 місяці тому

    Darth Sidious is DAT DUDE!!!

  • @thomasparque7834
    @thomasparque7834 2 місяці тому +5

    I think Darth Sidious and even Darth Plagueis were fools for dismissing lightsaber and believed that the Sith had grown pass the weapon. Though I will not reject the results of training and in someways to show there is as some tabbit of long realist in their arrogant minds even if deeply drown out.

  • @corie_1032
    @corie_1032 2 місяці тому

    Sidious literally toyed with the jedi.

  • @josephsongohan79
    @josephsongohan79 2 місяці тому

    Good story

  • @eaphantom9214
    @eaphantom9214 2 місяці тому +1

    Sheer speed was his Top Trumps card 😈 ⚔️

  • @wedgeantillies66
    @wedgeantillies66 2 місяці тому

    Banite Sith, has always bee4n an order which is dedicated to survival of the fittest and ever successive generation becoming more powerful and talented than the last as they advance the grand plan. Sidious is put through several lethal crucibles in order to become such a deadly lightsaber duellist that aided and enhanced by the power of the dark side its no wonder he was able to cut down three jedi masters like they were chaff in revenge of the sith.
    Though being an avatar of and having his strikes and form powered by the dark side, didn't help him against mace windu and is why he was utterly defeated by the master of vaapad. A form that takes the power of the dark side and turns it back upon the wielder in powering and enhancing the strikes of the jedi vaapad user.

  • @daveonwheeler7412
    @daveonwheeler7412 2 місяці тому

    There can only be two and you have been replace

  • @jameskenney8280
    @jameskenney8280 2 місяці тому

    They should have had Palpatine using a lightsaber instead of electrocuting everyone in Battlefront 2

  • @jamesofallthings3684
    @jamesofallthings3684 Місяць тому

    Yea I mean why wouldn't the planet spinning faster make them run faster. Definitely makes sense.

  • @CorpusCrispy
    @CorpusCrispy 2 місяці тому

    I’ve often wondered how the sith trained since they had to stay low key and sparring partners would be few

  • @styve6205
    @styve6205 2 місяці тому +2

    i can tlie i always have to chuckle to myself when its brought up palpatine killed 3 jedi masters before windu.....i understand sidious is a monster but idk just with how easy and funny it looked in the film a padawan could have put up a better fight 🤣🤣

  • @FatherhoodAndFitness
    @FatherhoodAndFitness Місяць тому

    What about Vestara tho? 🤔

  • @westongarner-qo2ez
    @westongarner-qo2ez 2 місяці тому

    770th like!👍
    Awesome video!🤘
    Keep up the awesome work!🤘😎🤘

  • @isaacsantana6560
    @isaacsantana6560 2 місяці тому +1

    Lord Vader father coming

  • @samuelrobles3737
    @samuelrobles3737 2 місяці тому

    Day 449 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

  • @Superyan100
    @Superyan100 Місяць тому

    How are they trained in all 7 if Windu invented one of the styles? So are there 8?

  • @psychedlife197
    @psychedlife197 2 місяці тому

    If sidious didn't use his lightsaber while dueling mace or yoda he would be dead

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 2 місяці тому

    Hey.

  • @raiderax8532
    @raiderax8532 2 місяці тому

    And here lies our answer. Sidious is a master of the blade simply because of the quality of his opponents with plagueis being a master of all forms of lightsaber combat, and droids that were the absolute best in the galaxy, droids that were not created by his or his masters hand. "For you are a sith lord and have been marked for death" these are the words of someone who is on edge never letting their guard down. Time and time again do the jedi actually fall into this pothole, for this look no further than Master Luminara vs Ventress in the clone wars. Ventress was able to escape because of Luminara becoming overconfident and letting her guard down allowing for here to be temporarily blind in one eye. The sith fight until death no one must know they are alive vs the jedi who fight until a surrender. There are only 2 sith on the galaxy and should one fall the grand plan would be put in danger.

  • @eateddie1995
    @eateddie1995 2 місяці тому

    If you ask GL Windu beat Palpy fair and square. We need to cut this debate off.

    • @monatry5533
      @monatry5533 Місяць тому

      He NEVER said that. In that interview he even said Palps played to be weak. Every source out there states that.

    • @eateddie1995
      @eateddie1995 Місяць тому

      @@monatry5533 since you’re the god of sources, show me the video where GL said this.

    • @monatry5533
      @monatry5533 Місяць тому

      @@eateddie1995 Didn't find the clip right now, but this has everything
      ua-cam.com/video/5ZeLiQDoejc/v-deo.htmlsi=pf5-WdxEfWclYQh4

  • @tydasavage6890
    @tydasavage6890 2 місяці тому +2

    Still think dooku would beat sidious in a duel

    • @datboielijah1234
      @datboielijah1234 2 місяці тому

      How come ?

    • @jeffcordova9633
      @jeffcordova9633 2 місяці тому +1

      maybe when he was a jedi and Palpatine wasn't completely trained yet

    • @tydasavage6890
      @tydasavage6890 2 місяці тому +2

      @datboielijah1234 I mean dooku stale mate Yoda and it's even said he beat mace windu and plaguis told sidious there is a jedi within the order that can defeat him in combat and ironically he turns that jedi into his apprentice

    • @tydasavage6890
      @tydasavage6890 2 місяці тому

      @jeffcordova9633 true

    • @dreadrath
      @dreadrath 2 місяці тому +1

      If its only lightsaber combat, yeah maybe, Dooku is the more skilled dualist, however Sidious speed would be a serious problem for the aging count; then again its not like Dooku is unfamiliar with battling foes with a speed advantage given he held his own against Yoda on two occasions. Still, it'd be a damn tough fight for Dooku. He's certainly got a shot of beating Palps. That said, if Sidious bring his superior force power to bear, he'd win eventually.

  • @tomkite91
    @tomkite91 2 місяці тому

    Windu defeated sidious...everything that happened after Anakin entered the room doesn't count as the fight was already over

    • @monatry5533
      @monatry5533 Місяць тому

      He didn't beat him. Palps let him win. George never said he won fair and square.

  • @thegamerboneless2864
    @thegamerboneless2864 2 місяці тому

    He didn’t embarrass the 3 Jedi when they went to arrest him/ or kill him, the actor for Sidious was to old and they didn’t want to use a double. It was just laziness unfortunately, but if they had used a younger man then it would’ve been a lot closer then it looked.

  • @drakethesnek6429
    @drakethesnek6429 2 місяці тому

    Yoda beat palps with the lightsaber.

    • @KING-tz6lo
      @KING-tz6lo 2 місяці тому +1

      No he lost

    • @drakethesnek6429
      @drakethesnek6429 2 місяці тому +1

      @@KING-tz6lo no, yoda gave up after realizing palps won the war. Yoda didn't lose the lightaaber duel. Read the novel.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 2 місяці тому

    S

  • @darthjimmy7882
    @darthjimmy7882 2 місяці тому +2

    First

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 2 місяці тому

    Yeah he SAYS his classic opinion... an yet is/WAS SO good ONLY the ABSOLUTELY greatest of Saber Masters all at ONCE an then 2 more of Legendary tier abilities JUST with sabers almost no Force abilities at all..
    Sounds like a Sith in denial to me.. coming from one ALSO in a blade art. It takes quite A LOT of man hrs practicing just with a particular weapon to take on the 2 such worst scenarios possible to have to do.. take on someone that could be WAY better in a dual and/or fight multiple armed opponents ALONE an to do them BOTH in the space of a few hrs.. an even one minutes apart??? Seems some Sith goin on there..

  • @mikesmithz
    @mikesmithz 2 місяці тому

    People in here are crazy if they think Mace beat Sideous - clearly it was all part of the plan to turn Anakin. Just think about it for a second, anakin was the chosen one - if he was the chosen one, then how could Mace have killed Sideous? Clearly palpatine knew Anakin was coming to see him, he knew this was the moment to push Anakin fully to the dark side.
    It's fully possible that Mace could have won in a fair fight, but in that fight, Palpatine threw it so he could turn anakin.

  • @nikoart4656
    @nikoart4656 2 місяці тому +2

    First