I also did the 180 rotate of the mount and changed the antenna thank you. My concern is the very short flytime. @650mah,overall 269g, with gps and naked_orca, total arm is max 4.0mins. @520mah max 3.25mins. @450mah max arm is 2.75mins. 3blades, analog, just cruising and no freestyling.
Hi Jeff, I'm happy my vid inspired you 🙌😃. Do you have the 1404 motor version? But yes ft was one of my concerns too, that's why I choose to fly with 850mah, I get 5 to +6 min with cruising cinematic flights. When canopy cruising, which is almost just hovering 😂 I've gotten 6.50min!
@@SquareOneFPV hi sq1, I flashed g-h-30-48khz and changed the pids, I'll later paste my cli changes. But there's a great improvement in flight time. Also my average amps drawn is 10ish while the stock was 15-20amps on normal cruise. (1404 motor 3blade)
@@jeffclassics Why didn't I think of that 😊, would have been perfect for this vid! I will definitely try 48khz on my cinelog now😄, if you could paste a dump that would be awesome. Thanks for sharing!
@@nischalnischal1 hi nishcal, i uploaded it in the link above. you will see the first pid profile is the factory and the second is my little tweak from Betaflight's default. my tweak did not perform well with the prop wash but i think the upgrade of ESC to 48khz is what improved the flight time and tamed the amps drawn of my motors.
Sure some do, (check the comment from Jeff Mi3 ) I think the tune out of the box works pretty good for a large range of batteries and camera's and I think that was their goal to make it as good as possible for as many people possible. But of course you can tune it better for your setup and auw.
Thanks buddy. No mine's not extended, but I do remember it being pretty short indeed. I get mine plugged in but barely. The white tape is just a small label, I got it like that, never removed it 😊.
Thank you for this video, really helpful. Do you know if there could be an issue running 850mah on this drone as they recommend 750 max on there website? Thanks
Thanks. I've tried it with 650 mah 850mah and even 1550mah, (just out of curiousity) and 850's work great! Better then 650's in my opinion. I also decased the vista and now I get up to 7 min of flight time ( cruising) with an insta 360 go2.
Another good video. Thanks. Your Cinelog 25 has 3.20kHz of Gyro Frequency and 1,60kHz of PID Loop Frequency? in Betaflight? I'me having some problems with my new Cinelog 25, i still could flight it. Can I send here a link with my video problem for you try to help me? Thank you
Thank you António 🙂, yes sure send me a link. Haven't looked at the log data yet, mine flies great straight out of the box. And I have to admit I mostly tune by feel.
I'd say about 400deg/s would be a good starting point, but rates or more a personal preference kind of thing, and depends on how long you have been flying and stick feel etc. Maybe more helpful is a camera angle that's almost flat, that really helps flying slow. Good luck buddy!
Hey brother Loved this video since i just got the cinelog 25. do you have smart audio enabled? i tried it and my custom OSD didn't work, but I want to set that up so i can change settings in the field. Do you have a vid on that? or some info! Thanks man!!!! doing all these upgrades you suggested!
Hey there 😄 thanks man👊! Just to be clear, you have the analog version right? So smart audio let's you change your vtx channel and power using your goggles and radio. I've checked on the geprc site and this should be the vtx table for the cinelog 25: # vtxtable vtxtable bands 6 vtxtable channels 8 vtxtable band 1 BOSCAM_A A CUSTOM 5865 5845 5825 5805 5785 5765 5745 5725 vtxtable band 2 BOSCAM_B B CUSTOM 5733 5752 5771 5790 5809 5828 5847 5866 vtxtable band 3 BOSCAM_E E CUSTOM 5705 5685 5665 5645 5885 5905 5925 5945 vtxtable band 4 FATSHARK F CUSTOM 5740 5760 5780 5800 5820 5840 5860 5880 vtxtable band 5 RACEBAND R CUSTOM 5658 5695 5732 5769 5806 5843 5880 5917 vtxtable band 6 BAND_D D CUSTOM 5362 5399 5436 5473 5510 5547 5584 5621 vtxtable powerlevels 5 vtxtable powervalues 25 100 200 400 600 vtxtable powerlabels 25 100 200 400 600 you could try to copy paste this into your cli ( and save ) but since I don't have the analog version I can't test this. You still need to go to the "ports" tab in betaflight, and select the vtx protocol under " peripherals" for the right uart. I can't tell you which one that is. but there's only 2 choices. Tramp or TBS. You can check if it works if you go to the "video transmitter" tab and on the right side it says " vtx type" next to it it should say "smart audio" or "smart audio enabled" And if you need a good video guide here's one of the best: ua-cam.com/video/eaSmoOPk9KY/v-deo.html too bad it's not one of mine 😋. Alright hope that helps. Good luck with it, and if you got more questions, you know where to find me 😄.
@@SquareOneFPV Dude thanks so much for getting back! I have the dji version. when i went to the video transmitter part and it was like not supported. i do agree it is something in the ports tab. I did look at the manual and it does show that in one picture the tramp selection was chosen on uart2 i believe, i just tried this again yesterday and it seemed like it reset lol. i just want to know if the dji frsky (s-bus) version "can" do it lol i guess ill keep messing around! i did contact geprc yesterday but havent heard back. Again thanks for this info i am looking at it now!
@@radbotvideo Hehe 😊 yes smart audio only works for an analog vtx. If you still need help with your custom osd check out Stew's vid 🙂ua-cam.com/video/A-xSZTftr0w/v-deo.html
did you ever had issues with reelsteady 4k footage? I have always microvibrations after stabilizing it.... trying to record indoor outdoor transition shoots with auto shutter
@@totimoti8886 Yes gyroflow mostly with the insta 360go2 or runcam orange. With the gopro I actually use hypersmooth a lot, it's not the same result I know, but it's a lot less of a hassle...
Hey, I got a tool I found in a bargain bin at my local home depot 😅 it looks like a "chip extractor" it's kinda like big tweezers with claws (just google it 😁 ) but mine's a tad bigger. So I grip the hub of the prop with it and than just pull and /or rotate while pulling. Works great on tinywhoop props too. And I guess if you have a sheet of metal about 1mm thick you could try and make one yourself, I've tried a real chip extractor too because I wanted to make a video about this but their "claws" are just too small...
I have so much shake in my camera of the Cinelog25. Even replacing the mount and the softmount with standoffs doesn't help. Anyone knows a solution to this?
Do you mean the action cam ( gopro or something like that), what action cam do you use? What's its weight? Or do you mean the actual fpv cam? Ok first you need to make sure your build is solid, so check your motors to see if they aren't damaged and spinning freely. check al frame screws makes sure they're tight. Put on a fresh set of props. Still having this problem? If you use a heavy cam try putting a zip tie through each of the rubber dampeners and tighten them, so there's less movement.
@@SquareOneFPV I mean the actual fpv cam. Nothing changed on the PIDs and I use a naked GoPro Hero 6 in the Betafpv Case. Also nothing changes when I tighten the screws on the cam or the mount/frame.
You're absolutely right, I do keep them very short on my freestyle drones, to keep the gyro signal as clean as possible. When flying slow and steady, like with this drone I don't feel much diffence with the little bit more noise I get from the longer antenna. On freestyle drones when flying faster and doing more abrupt moves I do feel the difference. This drone with the tbs receiver already came with a "medium" long antenna and flew great, going from the "medium" long antenna to the "very" long antenna didn't make much of a diffence in feel to me. So I know it's a compromise, but on this drone I prefer to have a little bit better video reception over less noise.
Yeah, I notice a lot more jello after adding the long antenna. I’m tempted to put the short one back on but it’s such a huge pain to access the antenna connector.
I know it's almost impossible getting them off! Hold the motor, take out the motor screws if you can't hold on to it when screwed on. Then grab the prop, twist it, and pull at the same time. Goodluck with it!
Looks like, somebody is using my Insta360 camera mount design. :D I think, we could save a few extra grams simply by cutting the middle part out of the mount.. and just leaving it like two thin rings. but I'm too lazy to update the design.
How big are the odds, me choosing your design and you seeing my vid 😄. I've printed out a few and yours the one I stuck with for my geprc, great mount man 👌. Yes we could definitely save a few grams there, let me know if you ever get around doing so 😋😉.
Short, clear, and straight to the point. Perfect video thank you.
Thank you very much. 🙏
awesome mods i really liked that battery strap one!
Thanks man 😄🤙
I did the strap and longer antenna mods. Thanks for the tips!
Thats great, you're welcome 👍👊🏼
love the battery strap mod. i have a bunch of the same 850 4s tattu and i will definitely implement that
it sounds kind a nice with 5 bladed props , fun to fly , great cinewhoop
Yes it is! I love it 😍.
When are u getting more in-stock
Hi, sorry buddy I'm not a retailer, I'm just a drone enthusiast 😋 so I have no idea when these will be back in stock.
Great video! Thanks!!
You have a new subscriber!
I also did the 180 rotate of the mount and changed the antenna thank you. My concern is the very short flytime. @650mah,overall 269g, with gps and naked_orca, total arm is max 4.0mins. @520mah max 3.25mins. @450mah max arm is 2.75mins. 3blades, analog, just cruising and no freestyling.
Hi Jeff, I'm happy my vid inspired you 🙌😃. Do you have the 1404 motor version? But yes ft was one of my concerns too, that's why I choose to fly with 850mah, I get 5 to +6 min with cruising cinematic flights. When canopy cruising, which is almost just hovering 😂 I've gotten 6.50min!
@@SquareOneFPV hi sq1, I flashed g-h-30-48khz and changed the pids, I'll later paste my cli changes. But there's a great improvement in flight time. Also my average amps drawn is 10ish while the stock was 15-20amps on normal cruise. (1404 motor 3blade)
@@jeffclassics Why didn't I think of that 😊, would have been perfect for this vid! I will definitely try 48khz on my cinelog now😄, if you could paste a dump that would be awesome. Thanks for sharing!
@@jeffclassics hey Jeff thank you for sharing this mod. Waiting for you to share your pids
@@nischalnischal1 hi nishcal, i uploaded it in the link above. you will see the first pid profile is the factory and the second is my little tweak from Betaflight's default. my tweak did not perform well with the prop wash but i think the upgrade of ESC to 48khz is what improved the flight time and tamed the amps drawn of my motors.
thanks man, nice job, what is the antenna upgrade? i want to do it, any manual or video how to change it? thanks again
also de props i would like to change them :)
I'm just wondering if people change the tune on them. I've got digital version and the tune out of the box isn't exactly Ideal.
Sure some do, (check the comment from Jeff Mi3 ) I think the tune out of the box works pretty good for a large range of batteries and camera's and I think that was their goal to make it as good as possible for as many people possible. But of course you can tune it better for your setup and auw.
Amazing video!Did you also got such a short power cable for the gopro naked? basically in cant plug it. Did you extended? i see a white tape on it!
Thanks buddy. No mine's not extended, but I do remember it being pretty short indeed. I get mine plugged in but barely. The white tape is just a small label, I got it like that, never removed it 😊.
Is the jst that comes out of the fc okay to attach to the bec beta fpv or do you need an adapter?
No need for an adapter, I have a naked 7 with the Betafpv bec and it works.
@@SquareOneFPV many thanks, greetings from Italy
Thank you for this video, really helpful. Do you know if there could be an issue running 850mah on this drone as they recommend 750 max on there website? Thanks
Thanks. I've tried it with 650 mah 850mah and even 1550mah, (just out of curiousity) and 850's work great! Better then 650's in my opinion. I also decased the vista and now I get up to 7 min of flight time ( cruising) with an insta 360 go2.
@@SquareOneFPV thank you very much!
@@jeremypajot-art Your welcome. Happy flying mate!
Another good video. Thanks. Your Cinelog 25 has 3.20kHz of Gyro Frequency and 1,60kHz of PID Loop Frequency? in Betaflight?
I'me having some problems with my new Cinelog 25, i still could flight it. Can I send here a link with my video problem for you try to help me? Thank you
Thank you António 🙂, yes sure send me a link. Haven't looked at the log data yet, mine flies great straight out of the box. And I have to admit I mostly tune by feel.
Do you have some good rates to flight indoor?
I'd say about 400deg/s would be a good starting point, but rates or more a personal preference kind of thing, and depends on how long you have been flying and stick feel etc. Maybe more helpful is a camera angle that's almost flat, that really helps flying slow. Good luck buddy!
Hey brother Loved this video since i just got the cinelog 25. do you have smart audio enabled? i tried it and my custom OSD didn't work, but I want to set that up so i can change settings in the field. Do you have a vid on that? or some info! Thanks man!!!! doing all these upgrades you suggested!
Hey there 😄 thanks man👊! Just to be clear, you have the analog version right? So smart audio let's you change your vtx channel and power using your goggles and radio.
I've checked on the geprc site and this should be the vtx table for the cinelog 25:
# vtxtable
vtxtable bands 6
vtxtable channels 8
vtxtable band 1 BOSCAM_A A CUSTOM 5865 5845 5825 5805 5785 5765 5745 5725
vtxtable band 2 BOSCAM_B B CUSTOM 5733 5752 5771 5790 5809 5828 5847 5866
vtxtable band 3 BOSCAM_E E CUSTOM 5705 5685 5665 5645 5885 5905 5925 5945
vtxtable band 4 FATSHARK F CUSTOM 5740 5760 5780 5800 5820 5840 5860 5880
vtxtable band 5 RACEBAND R CUSTOM 5658 5695 5732 5769 5806 5843 5880 5917
vtxtable band 6 BAND_D D CUSTOM 5362 5399 5436 5473 5510 5547 5584 5621
vtxtable powerlevels 5
vtxtable powervalues 25 100 200 400 600
vtxtable powerlabels 25 100 200 400 600
you could try to copy paste this into your cli ( and save ) but since I don't have the analog version I can't test this.
You still need to go to the "ports" tab in betaflight,
and select the vtx protocol under " peripherals" for the right uart. I can't tell you which one that is.
but there's only 2 choices. Tramp or TBS.
You can check if it works if you go to the "video transmitter" tab and on the right side it says " vtx type" next to it it should say "smart audio" or "smart audio enabled"
And if you need a good video guide here's one of the best: ua-cam.com/video/eaSmoOPk9KY/v-deo.html
too bad it's not one of mine 😋. Alright hope that helps. Good luck with it, and if you got more questions, you know where to find me 😄.
@@SquareOneFPV Dude thanks so much for getting back! I have the dji version. when i went to the video transmitter part and it was like not supported. i do agree it is something in the ports tab. I did look at the manual and it does show that in one picture the tramp selection was chosen on uart2 i believe, i just tried this again yesterday and it seemed like it reset lol. i just want to know if the dji frsky (s-bus) version "can" do it lol i guess ill keep messing around! i did contact geprc yesterday but havent heard back. Again thanks for this info i am looking at it now!
@@SquareOneFPV I think from my research that TBS version is the only one that supports smart audio on this drone :D
@@radbotvideo Hehe 😊 yes smart audio only works for an analog vtx. If you still need help with your custom osd check out Stew's vid 🙂ua-cam.com/video/A-xSZTftr0w/v-deo.html
did you ever had issues with reelsteady 4k footage? I have always microvibrations after stabilizing it.... trying to record indoor outdoor transition shoots with auto shutter
I've only used reelsteady a few times so I'm no expert, but no can't say I've had any issues. Sorry that I can't help you.
@@SquareOneFPV what do you use ? Gyroflow
@@totimoti8886 Yes gyroflow mostly with the insta 360go2 or runcam orange. With the gopro I actually use hypersmooth a lot, it's not the same result I know, but it's a lot less of a hassle...
Nice mods.
Thanks 👊
Qual antena utilizou ?
It's this one, choose LHCP UFL for DJI.
@@SquareOneFPV do you have a link? how many millimeters
@@JONHFPV Sorry forgot too paste the link 😂 www.banggood.com/custlink/KG3yQU9yIn
Hey bro is there any tool to remove those props?
Hey, I got a tool I found in a bargain bin at my local home depot 😅 it looks like a "chip extractor" it's kinda like big tweezers with claws (just google it 😁 ) but mine's a tad bigger. So I grip the hub of the prop with it and than just pull and /or rotate while pulling. Works great on tinywhoop props too. And I guess if you have a sheet of metal about 1mm thick you could try and make one yourself, I've tried a real chip extractor too because I wanted to make a video about this but their "claws" are just too small...
@@SquareOneFPV Thank you very much for taking the time to answer me! I will look forward to future videos.
how many minutes of flight?
7 min, with an 850mah 4s. And a insta 360 go2
I have so much shake in my camera of the Cinelog25. Even replacing the mount and the softmount with standoffs doesn't help. Anyone knows a solution to this?
Do you mean the action cam ( gopro or something like that), what action cam do you use? What's its weight? Or do you mean the actual fpv cam?
Ok first you need to make sure your build is solid, so check your motors to see if they aren't damaged and spinning freely. check al frame screws makes sure they're tight. Put on a fresh set of props.
Still having this problem?
If you use a heavy cam try putting a zip tie through each of the rubber dampeners and tighten them, so there's less movement.
@@SquareOneFPV I mean the actual fpv cam. Nothing changed on the PIDs and I use a naked GoPro Hero 6 in the Betafpv Case. Also nothing changes when I tighten the screws on the cam or the mount/frame.
Long video transmitter antenna's put a lot of vibration and noise on the drone . So try to go short as possible.😲
You're absolutely right, I do keep them very short on my freestyle drones, to keep the gyro signal as clean as possible. When flying slow and steady, like with this drone I don't feel much diffence with the little bit more noise I get from the longer antenna.
On freestyle drones when flying faster and doing more abrupt moves I do feel the difference.
This drone with the tbs receiver already came with a "medium" long antenna and flew great, going from the "medium" long antenna to the "very" long antenna didn't make much of a diffence in feel to me.
So I know it's a compromise, but on this drone I prefer to have a little bit better video reception over less noise.
@@SquareOneFPV yep video reception means a whole lot too. I like being able to see 😜 LoL
Yeah, I notice a lot more jello after adding the long antenna. I’m tempted to put the short one back on but it’s such a huge pain to access the antenna connector.
Can you share that mount 3d file please, for mount regular size mount instead stock one
How did you change those props? its so hard for me
I know it's almost impossible getting them off! Hold the motor, take out the motor screws if you can't hold on to it when screwed on. Then grab the prop, twist it, and pull at the same time. Goodluck with it!
@@SquareOneFPV it worked thanks a lot
Looks like, somebody is using my Insta360 camera mount design. :D
I think, we could save a few extra grams simply by cutting the middle part out of the mount.. and just leaving it like two thin rings. but I'm too lazy to update the design.
How big are the odds, me choosing your design and you seeing my vid 😄. I've printed out a few and yours the one I stuck with for my geprc, great mount man 👌. Yes we could definitely save a few grams there, let me know if you ever get around doing so 😋😉.