DJI Air 2S - it landed in the sea
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2021
- DJI Air 2S - it landed in the sea. The Air 2S is down. Game Over!
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Yep. This happened. The DJI Air 2S landed in the Baltic Sea. This was no doubt the oddest situation I've ever experienced in my whole drone flying career. I've flown a ton of different drones, in much harsher and unforgiving conditions, so having the Air 2S go down baffled me. I've flown my Mavic 2 Pro here in winds that would rip your head off, and the Mini 2 in similar winds, even on the same day, but what happened here is a mystery. This should not have happened.
Yes, we ignore wind warnings because we've flown through them hundreds of times in much higher winds, so these not so strong winds didn't pose much of a threat to us considering our other experiences.
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Rule of thumb when flying out to sea, Check first the 1. direction of the wind 2. wind speed. (Ground air speed varies greatly with gust on higher elevation) If its blowing out to sea you have 2 option either abort or fly with caution. Remember when your flying against the wind it will drain your battery more quickly than flying with the wind. I've noticed you left your battery low before initiating return to home with the wind against it. Your drone was fine except it didn't have enough power to make it back to you. This was pilot error of judgement that caused you guys to lose your drone. Expensive mistake but I'm sure you've learned from it.
We always check UAV Forecast for wind, kp index and sats, that's the first thing we do before we fly. The wind here wasn't that bad, mind you my Mini 2 was having trouble closer to the waves at around 10m, as soon as I moved up to about 40m it started to move home. We've done this hundreds of times before and never had any problems, and we usually land with 20%, very rarely does it happen that we land with less than 10% as that stresses us out. The drone behaved very oddly here in my opinion, and from my experience if the drone had not capped our power we would have made it to the beach with no problem at all. Yes, expensive it was, but we were up in it the air two hours later in even stronger evening winds with the Mini 2, get up and move on I say.
Flying a risky maneuver is always conscious decision. You should be ready to accept any consequences if it goes wrong.
I agree.im a droner too.i did come across with this kind of situation.that drone would have make it back ashore if you started returning from that 1st strong wind warning. Or you could try flying low if the wind is against you cause mostly strong wind usually hits hard when your above.
We do every time we're out.
That would mean I'd be sitting at home with everyone else not getting the shots I want to get, that sounds like I'd regret it.
I’m not completely sure, but I’ve heard that lowering the altitude in these situations will help as there is less wind near the surface.
Yes, totally correct, that didn’t work here though as the winds lower to the ground were out of control, I had to raise my Mini 2 way up high to get over them 🔥 That is logical thought though, so always try that first.
Also, it's easier for the aircraft to propel forward while descending.
Actually, it’s much easier to get it up, and drop it down.
@@PhillipSkraba Are we still talking about the drone here?
Click here for a discussion on how Mr. Skraba handled the air 2s situation and what really caused him to lose his drone:
mavicpilots.com/threads/lost-my-air-2s-annapolis-md.111512/
Watching these kind of drone videos gives me anxiety
It shouldn't, in a situation like this be Zen as possible.
I get nervous every time my air s2 takes off the ground lol. How reliable do u think this drone is? if u fly safe, such as not pushing the battery to far and staying away from tress and stuff. I'm a safe flyer but I fear fly always or my drone malfunctioning and falling from the sky over water or a canyon
Click here for a discussion on how Mr. Skraba handled the air 2s situation and what really caused him to lose his drone:
mavicpilots.com/threads/lost-my-air-2s-annapolis-md.111512/
@@IVChan LOL, The first in guy that discussion.
The idea that you need way less juice flying with the wind
and a lot more against it seemed to have been totally outside his imagination.
My first instinct would be to lower the altitude and almost touch the water trying to get away from the strong winds.
I was pretty low to the water with my Mini 2 and it was pretty crazy there, even windier than up above, a very surreal situation. That exact spot is where the sea meets the peninsula, crazy stuff happens there.
had the same idea, but it seemed like some weird safety bs the DJI was doing, like it was trying to keep the drone from flipping but it was also keeping the drone from going home.
It was totally ignoring us 🙈
My wife asked me “why’re you crying?” I said “Sad movies made me cry”🎶🎵😭
It wasn't just you. I had a forced landing a few weeks ago with my Mini 2 and was fully freaking out until I got to it, because it was about 6" from water. This had me right back in those feels.
hahaha! You're not the first!
😂
In my mind I was explaining my wife why 1000$ is in sea 😁😁😁
Absolutely
Beautiful footage as usual. This is truly a sad 😢 story. Condolences to your Timberland booted buddy. After watching this, I went and gave my Mini 2 a hug.
Thank You! He's pretty down about it, let's hope DJI sees our side of the story.
@@PhillipSkraba 🤞🏻
Why not drop your altitude drastically as you fly back? Much better chances of less head wind.
The drone was trying to auto land towards the end as we realised we were in trouble, something totally out of the blue for us.
So upsetting :( BUT, you definitely should have flown straight back to land instead of back to home point (much shorter distance) then walked to find it on the beach. I've come across something like this before with high winds and learnt to NEVER trust that timer. With no wind it's quite accurate, but in high winds, it can't be trusted. Sorry to hear it mate.
yep true, and on top i think the altitude chosen was also wrong. wind was blowing over the island towards the drone, so flying much much lower right above the sea would have gotten some lower winds due to the island itself blocking it.
the timer is big lier one of my dji mavic air battery DIED and it can’t be charged :(
i do think there were some mistakes made here in regarding to flying downwind and then setting up for an upwind flight home, i also disagree that winds would have been worse near the surface. ALL THAT SAID, i’ve seen several videos including this where DJI logic massively slows the available motor power to “save battery” but the result is what happened to you, the lowered power doesn’t allow forward progress into the wind (or very little) and you end up not making it back. in many of these cases, including yours, it is clear had you been able to use full sports mode you would have likely made it back. i don’t understand why DJI does not allow you to override this logic to get yourself home, so weird and frankly it makes them partly complicit in the loss of the drone. Sorry this happened. I love your channel.
@@canyonblue737-8 this came up under my comment. Not on the video FYI.
Burial at sea is a noble end...and my response to your previous video still stands, so soothing!
Thank You David. Yes, this was quite the place to go, the very beginning of Poland, never to be forgotten.
Even in the midst of this, I can tell you are such a powerful storyteller👏💯.
RIP Air2S.
Thank You, I do my best 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@@PhillipSkraba You're welcome. Your best is well appreciated 👏
Thank You Owoyemi!
U are the best u trying on the end u still have best background sotry keep it up
Why did he not decent when the drone was not moving? Keeping the altitude does nothing than drain the battery - I have been in these situations many times with both mini and also my evo 2 and getting close to the ‘ground’ saved me
That’s the saddest I’ve ever felt for a device 😞😥🤧
Silicon heaven, it's there, no doubt getting some oil and a polish.
Click here for a discussion on how Mr. Skraba handled the air 2s situation and what really caused him to lose his drone:
mavicpilots.com/threads/lost-my-air-2s-annapolis-md.111512/
When the wind signal showed critical ... it’s safer to take the drone to a lower attitude and head towards home point. I had a similar issue with the Mav Pro 2 at Durdle Door in UK and the critical wind signal warning appeared, I immediately lowered the attitude and got the drone back.Obviously the pro 2 is more stable due to its weight. But sadly in your situation I don’t understand why you assumed a different path would helped you regain more control.? After all its SEA . Anyways, truly sad you lost the drone and hopefully DJI would certainly compensate for the loss.
Same thing happened with my Phantom 4 2.0. Winds changed direction mid flight, Santa Ana winds started blowing out away from land, and she wouldn’t move forward anymore. So I dropped the altitude down to 1-2 feet off the surface of the water and she managed to pick up speed flying below the wind shear. It made it back with 9% power, critical landing.
Sounds lucky! We had auto-landing going on, so we kept having to lift, otherwise we'd have dropped it a lot more.
exactly the right decision. Not sure why they were flying so high, my guess is that have no idea about how anything works: drones, batteries, winds... etc.
All the knowledge you have on batteries though, it seems you don’t have much on drones, a drone will go into auto land mode, you need to fight that for as long as possible, hence the altitude.
I discovered your channel late last week and subbed after 3 videos. This experience from what I can tell as new as I am here is just a drop in the water of goodness that I see coming your way.
Can't wait for your next video.
Welcome to the channel!! Well, there probably won't be many more films with the Air 2S 😂 We'll see what comes next, no doubt back to old faithful Mini 2 🔥
@@PhillipSkraba Thank you for the welcoming. I was at first eyeing on purchasing the Air 2s. After watching your videos, I believe my first drone will be the mini 2 as it more than checked off what i was looking for, especially the drone laws here in Canada.
Ughhh I’m gutted for you Phil. That was a sad one. You’re a trooper for keeping with it and putting the video out. I really hope that DJI can hook you up. Keep up the amazing work on the channel mate.
So in a known high wind situation, don't fly over 2 km away from land and wait to start the return flight until the battery is well under 50% (40%). Got it. Thanks.
Yes, I’d advise writing that down, not everyone got the message to not fly like us. Please stay home and be safe.
I went 6000m out over water and had 68% battery left. I did return to home and got back with 5% left. I always return to home at 60% now
hahahahaha
No!!! That can't be the end!!! I was hoping for a plot twist.
I'm afraid the only twist here was that we bought the Air 2S in the first place 😂
@@PhillipSkraba Don't sweat it, DJI will probably give you a new one if you ask nicely.
The story telling is what keeps me glued along with your awesome shots. Chin up fly on bud.
Thank You!
Great video as usual! I enjoy listening to you!
Thank You!
Hahaha I'm sorry 😂😭😂😭
Is that the Bermuda triangle? Great video!
It’s very similar!!
Beautiful videos. With strong winds blowing away from you I recommend descending to a much lower altitude where winds are most likely a lot slower. Set your RTH altitude low and use RTH feature to let the aircraft return at an optimum speed.
there must be wind warnings in my living room too cuz my eyes are watering. I’ll be hugging my Mini 2 tonight. Keep soaring Air 2S! so sorry for your loss Phillip!
haha, oh Ryan!! you hug that thing good and hard!
I'm so sorry for your loss. RIP Air 2S...Literally was having a panic attack watching this. What an unfortunate event. Great use a horrible set of circumstances, your video and tribute was fantastic. Thanks for sharing! Hoping DJI gifts you a new one! (fingers-crossed)
RIP. He was so young! 😢
A few days old!
A very similar scenario happened to my mini 2 but luckily I managed to get it back somehow (I think I was lucky as the wind calmed down for a bit so I put it on sport and returned it).
I've had my Mini 2 in similar conditions too, I think it's just a lucky drone, it always comes back. This had bad luck.
I just lost my Mini 2 in a river and had to swim for it but was lucky enough to find it. I sent it back using Care Refresh and received a brand new one. I have now purchased a flotation system to use anytime I will be flying over water. I know it reduces the flight time because of resistance but it's a small trade off compared to losing $400 in the drink.
I had a similar situation, luckily only at about 4 feet off the ground. I'm very new to drones and couldn't understand why no forward progression. Wind in between two houses, loss of control smacked brick house, slight damage. Hope this won't be a consistent problem.
You’re almost 1.5 miles out to sea... those winds are going to be a lot different than where you are on the beach. Sport mode is going to drain that battery fighting the wind. That sucks.... my worst nightmare. Sorry man!
Yeah, it happens, thank you! Next time we'll take the Mavic 2 Pro out there, that things cuts through wind like a knife, or the Mini 2 🔥
Never fly offshore winds over 1 kilometre... you would think the "beyond line of sight certificate holder" should of warn you about this...
Nah. We've done this in winds that you'd fall over in, this drone just couldn't handle it. I myself have battled much stronger winds here with my 2 Pro, it made it back every time.
@@PhillipSkraba I flew with this exact drone in over 25-30kmph winds, this was definitely a pilot error!
@Yo _ mama _ fat _ You’re right, I am, lucky I wasn’t flying.
Same exact thing happened to my Mavic Air 2 just yesterday. Except the wind was blowing in my favor for the return. I knew that I was going to burn through a lot of the power to get out to where I wanted to shoot however the battery started to drop off faster than expected and then the speed started to go negative. At that point I decided to abort and even with the wind at the drone's back it only made it to the edge of the beach where I was able to catch it before it auto landed with 1% power. One suggestion about flying drones in stong winds is that the wind is not the same speed at all altitudes. You might have tried climbing or descending to look for lower head winds / faster return speed. I initially climbed on the way out but was going pretty slow so I descended and found less head wind. On the way back I knew the faster wind was up high so that is where I flew back on the abort / return. RIP Mavic Air 2S.
Hey Phillip,
Sorry for your loss...
I had a similar experience with my Air 2S : below 50% battery started dropping unexpectedly fast. I had to land really quick and got lucky to have no damage as I was in the mountains.
I found my Mavic Pro to be much more reliable on this side.
Ah and last thing, a good option for you in this case would have been to go down as fast as possible when you had the wind warning. It happened to me to be away from shore and I found the drone had way more speed when down, juste above water level, as the wind force is generally stronger as you go up.
Hope DJI will work on an update for the AIR 2S..
Cheers
Pilot error - this is, what typically happens to novices. When you ignore the "strong wind" warnings and fly out to the sea with tailwind at that height, it is no wonder, that you run out of battery at headwind. You can not believe the "remaining flight time" indicator during the tailwind phase and expect to have that time also in the headwind course. DJI makes you imagine to be safe with that "remaining flight time" indicator in these situations - too misleading in my opinion!
Experienced pilots know this and in that situation they would know how to conteract: Lower height to get into a calmer area and fly directly towards land (not transversal back to home point as in your case).
By the way: Who issued that "BVLOS paper", allowing your friend to fly BVLOS with such a drone and that minor level of experience???
I think it was the Disney flight school, they passed us with zero experience. For our first time flying we did a pretty good job. Well, we have flown the Tello on one occasion but that was just crazy.
Why did the pilot not descend ? Wind is always less at lower altitudes . 10m height difference could night and day .
I was at 10m with my Mini 2, it was even worse down there!
Great video and commentary, obviously shame about your loss, those DJI error messages that pop up send shivers down my spine every time
Thank You Paul. Well, we're used to the errors, if we listened to the errors we'd not have any of the shots we've taken over the years, we're here to push the limits of these tools, I'm here to show people just what amazing footage can be shot with these incredible machines, and without pushing it, well, we'd probably be sitting at home.
Remember this..."There are old pilots and bold pilots, but very few old, bold, pilots"
Sure.
That’s so sad men, I almost lost a DJI mini 1 against wind, i was flying in Sport Mode and the drone was going back, but in the instant I change to Cinema mode started to going forward slowly but I was Able to get the drone to me. I think sometimes the sport mode is not always the best way if you are fighting against wind at least in my experience Cinema mode is not that fast but give you control & less inclination wich could be good for aerodinámics and decrease the wind resístance. So sorry for your lost.
"Crying" My deepest condoleance. It suck but you know...."The tears that drops are the love you feel" May he/she rest in pieces. Wet.
Thank You! I'm sure it's happy chilling on the sea bed.
I seen DJI commented on this and I hope they help you in getting you another drone, I recently just purchased my second DJI drone, and just from them reaching out to you is a warm comforting feeling, Best of luck mate, Sending best wishes from Maryland USA!
My hopes are high for you!!
Dang! Thats incredible.
Yep, it happened.
Operator error. Crosswinds over the ocean. You’re asking for it man
We've actually asked for it a lot of times, the Air 2S is the first one that listened 😂
Ugh...I'm having flashbacks to losing my first mini 2. Lost it somewhere in the mountains. Turned back with 49% battery. Not overly windy. It went from 49% to 20% super fast. Then I watched it hold at the same distance until the battery just died. It is such a helpless feeling. The locate feature didn't work. I'm guessing because of the dead battery. The hike was way to precarious for me to try without climbing gear. Couldn't get a replacement fast enough, but now the new one's up in the air. I wonder if switching out the propellars had anything to do with it... Great video once again, Phillip. :)
That sounds like a nightmare too! It's the worst feeling watching it go down with absolutely no control over it, I feel you. Thank you Brendan!
@@PhillipSkraba Let's imagine your drone traveling the world by sea and living its best life. :)
Maybe dji should start making salvage submarines. I bet a lot of people would buy them.
I would be first in line, and I think that sounds like an awesome idea.
That was heartbreaking, Philip. But, you told the story astoundingly well, and I think it's giving a lot of us some pause. I don't think I'd have thought about it in the moment, but if I find myself in that situation in the future, I might try to go as low as possible to escape some of the wind. Really glad to see DJI's response on this, and hope they send a replacement. (if you don't want it, do send it my way ;) )
Thoughts and prayers Philip!
In all (semi) seriousness, I think I've become a bit addicted to flying my Mini 2 over water. It looks pretty but it scares the bejesus out of me - I think I might have masochistic tendencies (or is that all drone pilots? lol). All the best James & Sarah
Thanks Jarah! haha, I love flying over water, getting nice and low, blasting over it, it's tonnes of fun. I used to get freaked out by it, but now I'm very comfortable with it.
Would be a thrill if you suddenly started seeing shark footages!
haha, that would also be a huge surprise in the Baltic sea!
Damn!! That sucks, an expensive tool. Omg I was laughing hard with the voice 🤣 at the end.
I do my best to keep spirits high even in these circumstances 🔥
Man its cool that DJI reached out. Yo that's funny 😆.
It's nice of them yes.
Got this beauty ❤️
Oh yeah.
Sad moment, but the marks are against you. You flew in offshore wind, had wind warning, you also see the signs of higher wind on the water. I know, we most of the time know it better than the safety system of our drone. Sorry for that.
As soon as you saw it was struggling to come home fighting the wind you should have dropped altitude to below 50ft. It would have made it back. Oh and the Antenna's on the Smart Controller where positioned wrong unless you where trying to fly a few thousand feet up :)
Chris, how should the antennas been positioned? I have the same Smart Controller and the Air 2s
@@markjulius2006 The flats of the antenna should be pointing towards the drone.
Bummer, sorry to hear this. Nice video of your loss. Learning lesson here for sure. All the best if you get a replacement. Fly safe.
Thanks Ray! Sure, we got one through the Flyaway plan. You too!
Near lost my MA2s myself, in the mountains. Got a screen blackout with under 50 % don't know if it was a mobile problem or app. Pushed the RTH and after some minutes it finally returned home so I could land it. Lost the original Mavic Air in the sea in Greece but that one I dived to get back because I saw where it landed in the water. The refresh also require that you retrieve the drone for that.
OMG, such a well-documented disaster for sure dude! The higher you go the stronger the wind. There should be safety overrides, I can see that now. It is somewhat disturbing that DJI dictates how and where you can fly. Just like in a real plane, sometimes you don't come back.
They did two overrides and there's a point to the drone trying to land when it did:
Over land its way better you lose your drone to auto-landing than it falling
out of the sky and potentially injuring or killing somebody.
It had the time of its life when it went for the dive. Looks like Care Refresh got this covered!
Care Refresh requires you to send the drone back in. If you lose it you are out of luck.
@@jam5158 Does Flyaway Coverage cover this?
haha, I'm pretty sure it had a great time diving in!!
Sure, well, at least for us DJI covered this as a Flyaway.
This is heartbreaking dude! Hope DJI come good and sort it for you! Also that pin you dropped was amazing where do you get them from? The animated one
It was a painful one Dan! I hope DJI help us out too. The pin is from MotionVFX.
@@PhillipSkraba does it cost much? I hope they take care of you man! Loving the videos dude
I'm not sure, you'd have to take a look on their website Dan 👌🏻
Nice vídeo like always, the subject of the video was not what we were expecting but....can happen.
RIP from 🇵🇹
Thank You! Yes, it happens.
Your voice is made for narrative, I felt so sad for the drone, like you lost a dog or a friend
Thank You! We are very sad too, and we're hoping DJI will help us out on this one.
@@PhillipSkraba Wish you luck, 'cause it will be very good for their reputation
Yes, I believe so too! We do what we can to help DJI, it would be cool if they did the same for us.
That's his radio voice...
Fighting winds that were too strong and draining all the battery. Probably would've been better to drop elevation and then fly back.
Well, we tried everything, and from my experience here a couple of minutes earlier at around 10m I was getting serious winds, I had to climb a little to get out of it, no luck.
Hi
Sorry for you loss, I have been to Hell on the Moo, so your video brings back fantastic memories.
When I fly I have some rules.
1. Don't do anything with your drone you would not do if you were inside the drone as a pilot .
2. When you get a wind warning drop your height, if you are still in sports mode remember the downwards sensors do not work!
3. The sea will absorb electrical ENERGY FAST!!
4. Never test a new drone in high winds over water! But I guess you know that now.
5. Stop expecting DJI to be perfect.
6. If you insist on flying over water. Waterproof the battery door with silicone, fly with floats, add a strobe light to the top of the drone, get some high visibility skins.
My guess is you would not have taken these risks if you were actually inside pioloting the craft.
These are my rules.
Just so you are aware Ì have a pilots licence for helicopters and light aircraft, get DJI insurance.
I have been flying radio controlled aircraft since I was 12 years old so 45 years.
Love your video keep up the good work 💪
Great video production skills and narration!
Thank You Michael!
Any lessons for your viewer's to learn? Thank you in advance. Take care.
Well, that's a hard one, as this situation was so unusual for us. We've flown in some of the worst winds imaginable on Iceland, this was a walk in the park compared. Flying in high winds though, usually get low down, stick it in Sports Mode and kick it home when you're at 40%.
Bonsoir Phillip !
Bonne chance avec Dji pour qu il te remplace ton Air 2 S.
Superbe vidéo comme toujours!
Rip Air 2S!
Thank You Yves! We’ll see about that.
@@PhillipSkraba I'm sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing your experience. Best regards from the Philippines.
The instant I see a high wind warning I descend and bring it right home. Flying is done for the day. Sorry for the loss.
When we see a high wind warning, we just keep on flying, we've seen it hundreds of times. If we were to fly back home at the sight of a high wind warning, well, my channel wouldn't be what it is, I'd basically have nothing to show you, I would have left Iceland with nothing, I'd not have even taken off in most of the Swiss Alps. It's for the shot. We've never encountered something like this, and we have battled winds that were hard to stand in, this was 29km/hr.
@@PhillipSkraba It makes for good entertainment but I’m a professional jet pilot and part of the job is knowing the limitations of the aircraft you’re operating. You evidently, didn’t. I’d rather keep my $1200 bucks and live to fly another day but hey, it’s your money and your channel.
That sounds like you have an awesome job, I'm guessing that's pocket money for you. I knew, and have flown most of the DJI drones, which have done a much better job than this did, otherwise we would not have flown out there. Well, you see, I'm a UA-camr, making videos is how I pay my bills, so for me it's more than just flying and a passion, it's work.
Hey props for the like. I’m subscribing to your channel. I do enjoy your content.
Welcome to the channel 🤜🏻🔥🤛🏻
It is sad to lose a bird over water. I fly over water regularly in WA/AUS and have lost one DJI drone over water when in Sports mode and almost lost a DJI Air and DJI MA2 as well. In my experience, I have found that when in Sports mode, the pitch angle (Atti angle) is high which creates increased wind resistance and also significantly reduces power reserves, where the Battery Safety mode kicks in early to Auto Land. I have saved a MA and MA2 when facing this issue by changing back into Normal mode (which almost doubles the power reserve and reduces the pitch angle = less wind resistance) and then reducing height to fly in less wind. This would be considered a crazy move and goes against all flying instincts of maintaining height and returning ASAP. But it has saved my bacon several times. Keep up the great videos with spectacular cinematic scenery.
Damn! So sorry for your loss. The last seconds must have been excruciating. I flew my Air 2S today at the coast with very strong winds. I will not forget your pain when I think about flying mine again in windy weather.
Yes, it was incredibly frustrating. Thank You!
I'm sorry for the loss of the 2s. Great narration 😂🤣 awsome!!!. Thanks for sharing. 🚁☁️☁️☁️
Thanks Victor!
the last time i saw your video is when you crashed your mini 2 doing the parallax.😅 But thanks for sharing, it remind me to be very careful when flying above water or in this case the sea
Amazing looking
Thank You!
As a retired Charter Captain, I will tell you there is always a afternoon sea breeze and also the wind will most likely change direction when the tide changes. I have the 2s and the Avata and would not fly over water after 2 pm at any distance out to sea.
I'll keep that in mind, however, I've had my drone out a load of times in quite horrific weather out at sea after even 6pm. I think Iceland was the worst, but I only fly the Mavic 2 or 3 series in those cases, drones which have a ton of power, I wouldn't chance it with a smaller drone like my friend here.
Phillip,out of curiosity from another video elsewhere I've just watched, were you using the battery that came with the 2s or an older air 2 battery
We were using the battery that came with the Air 2S 🔥
you did a great job .I came to visit from Thailand.
Thank You, all the best from Poland.
One of the worst feeling ever! I lost my Mini 2 the first day I got it! I was in straight panic mode...I had the exact issue you had with the low battery and it being drained excessively, loss of communication and emergency landing which was very annoying. Luckily because I was over land I found it 3hrs later with minor damages but still fly's like a champ.. R. I.P Air 2S.. 🙏🏽
Здравей, I am kite surfer and paraglider pilot and I have a lot of practical experience with winds :)
For me the case is more than easy to understand why it happened and what must be a right way to do to save the drone.
The wind was very strong and it is coming from your right side when you launch the drone and you start piloting it side wind and it manage to correct the drifting well enough ( in paragliding this is called "crabbing" ).
The next that you did was a mistake - you let the drone to go downwind ( go with the wind in his direction) and after this you want it to take it back straight in the headwind and to do this the drone must overcome the speed of the wind and MORE to start moving relative to the ground (water in this case) and this was draining the power way way faster and that is why the battery dies like crazy.
The correct way to save it in this case when you are way to downwind is to make the same crabbing and steer it sideways to the wind back to the island but more downwind and to land it in some safe spot and go by foot and collect it.
I am sure in this way you will manage to land it safely because when see the headwind route and if I "unfold it " it will be enough to land on the island and the energy for this will be less smaller than your decision to fight the wind.
You will be more careful for next time ;)
PS and from the beginning if you returned it in the same way that you go inside the sea it was the right choice for the whole saga but you decide to make it "safer" and ... we are seeing the results ;)
Thank You for your insights, no doubt very useful ones! The problem here arose quite quickly. We only saw we were in trouble at about 40-30%, this was very unusual and we've experienced some very nasty weather before this out at sea. Normally we'd get back with 20-10% battery, here the drone basically didn't let us do anything. Until about 40% we were flying normally as we would, just filming and taking photos (which we didn't recover), as we were 100% sure thanks to a lot of previous experience that we would get home with battery to spare.
@@PhillipSkraba but this day the wind was more than you are "use to" - I think is more more than 10 m/s ... and this is a LOT :)
29km/hr apparently. This was a lot less than we're use to. We've flown in winds where it was hard to stand up in, the Alps had very strong winds, Iceland had ferocious winds, here in this place I've battled much stronger winds. I feel the Air 2S just crapped out on us, especially with those damn safety overrides.
I was in a similar predicament around a year ago when I went on vacation to a beach. I flew my Mavic Mini out over the ocean on a windy day. It had been windy every day and it was our last day there so I wanted to get some footage, even though it was really windy. I flew it out, after a while the wind sped up and started to push it farther out to sea as I was trying to get it back. I had to cancel all of the automatic landing warnings as the battery was critically low, put it in sport mode, and try to land it on the edge of the bay I was on because I would have had to go straight into the wind to bring it back to me. I had to run (so I could get there first and make sure it was ok) nearly a mile to find it and realize I had landed on sharp, uneven rocks. I was able to get it off and it was unharmed. I guess I got pretty dang lucky. Sorry to hear your Air 2s wasn't so lucky.
Now that was lucky! I’ve done that with my Mini 2 a couple of times, this drone though had bad luck to begin with 🙈
1. Doesn't Normal mode get you farther per battery than Sport mode? Even in wind?
2. Why not gradually lower the drone to use less battery and fly in less wind? I saw the pilot trying to raise it when it was already too high and critical battery.
3. Fly straight back to the nearest shoreline, not the home point. Then walk to retrieve it
Well, that depends if it moves in the wind or not, we had to drop the hammer on Sports Mode as the drone wasn't having any of Normal mode. Well, the pilot was specially high due to the fact he was countering auto-landing, so we had to keep the drone higher as long as we could with the hope of reaching home. Sure, that seemed like a similar distance in this case, not much could have saved this drone I'm afraid.
@@PhillipSkraba Oh well. Onto bigger and better! (or smaller and better, if you go with the Mini 2)
Nice.
Yep!
Could it had been an issue with the smart controller and O3 transmission? I have been hearing that the SC paired with 2S causes jitters and slower reaction times as well as a reduced distance.
Really? I'll have to look into that, but I don't think that was the problem, it was reacting quite well from what I saw.
What height where you flying at, the distance is shown but the altitude is not shown until your already in trouble. seems similar to other dji failures at sea. Drone too high for the wind conditions
This is so epic, redding DJI support team as if someone died lol
Thank You! Yes, it happens.
Hi Phil, I'm really sorry for your loss. Without analyzing the data it's difficult for anyone to make a sound judgement call on exactly what happened. DJI will be able to access all your embedded data streams which should include motor loads, stick inputs etc. So hopefully they will be able to conclude whether this was a software/hardware issue, wind gusts or simply pilot error. I'm not sure of your piloting skills but on the face of it I have to agree with an earlier comment. Knowing each drones capability to handle the wind is one thing, assessing the wind speed & direction prior to any UAV flight is another, and it's absolutely crucial! Particularly flying over water & especially at altitudes of 30m or more where wind speeds can increase considerably. I'm not sure if you're aware but there are free app's available (UAV Forecast & Drone Buddy) which will give you an estimated wind speed at all altitudes, this also includes direction & gust speeds. For me, If I have any doubt prior to a launch I will often use an anemometer too (as extra insurance) as this will give me the latest up to the minute reading.
I know it's frowned upon but like you I will often ignore the "wind speed warning" notifications, but that said it does raise my awareness when I get them and so I will fly with extra caution, paying particular attention to any sudden gimbal movements and keeping a closer eye on my read outs/bearings. Because I've experienced a few "close calls" in the past maybe I tend to fly over cautiously, so watching your flight unfold I was a little surprised you didn't eer on the side of safety and abort the mission, reduce altitude & RTH immediately? The wide fluctuation in your RTH times bore all the haul marks of either a malfunction or gusty wind conditions, both of which are a "red flags" to me (the app uses the load on the motors verses remaining battery power to assess this) But of course it's easy for me to comment sat in the comfort of my home, I wasn't there at the time and we're all wiser after the event. If it's any consolation (and it isn't) you're not alone, plenty of us have suffered similar incidents so on a positive note lets hope that DJI come back with a software issue and replace your drone FOC for you. If not, you might sadly just have to put this one down to an expensive learning experience.
LOVE THE ENDING HAHA
Thank You!
Oh no! That didn't last long!! Nice of DJI to reach out! Fingers crossed you can get a replacement!
Very nice of them! Yes, I'm afraid it went South quickly!
dji should create life jacket to anticipate flying out to sea
Now that would be cool!
Sorry for your loss. I don't seem to see the drone enter a RTH state at all or have I missed it? I only saw a Critical Low Battery message, did that force a RTH at all?
We were cancelling the RTH constantly as it tried to land, which is odd that that didn't show on the screen.
It felt like losing someone special, watching their last moments alive. Your last words were uplifting. Thanks for the video.
Thank You Stefan, I'm glad you liked the way I showed it.
I did a test recently flying back in Sports Mode and flying back in Normal Mode. I found that when you have low battery, you should switch to Normal mode. Sports mode eats the battery extremely fast. Flying over land at the same distances running battery down to same percentages, I could not get back in Sports Mode. It did its fail safe landing... I got back in Normal mode with 7% battery remaining. I think your biggest problem was flying in strong winds. If you were flying forward stick in Sports Mode and making no headway... The winds had to be howling. Sorry for your loss. I suppose DJI will make this right for you.
What a bummer Philip. Is there any kind of DJI Care Refresh support channels you can share this with? I had similar story with my Mavic 2 Pro; flew it in high winds and couldn't get it back to the home position even in Sports mode with the stick all the way forwards. The lower I got the faster it travelled horizontally, but it forced a landing about 600m away from me. Thankfully I was over land and just had to pop into a farmers field to collect it.
Ouch, to boli. Kondolencje! Moj Mini 2 automatycznie wylądował mi na pustyni tutaj na początku jak kupiłem, na szczęście dzięki mapce moglem go znaleźć. Latać nad woda straszy mnie!
So sorry for your loss! I lost my drone to water back 5 years ago. It is a sad feeling indeed!
Oh gosh, well, right back at you! Yes it is.
Same thing almost happened to me but luckily switching it back to normal made gave us a few extra minutes of battery to help it come back
Thanks for your expensive video. I always fly into the wind going out over the ocean for this reason. I wonder if you took different angle to right and fly down the island with more wind behind you if that would give you better angle, then just a long walk down the beach to get it. I had one close call with my mini 2, and I almost lost it - but managed to drop lower and then continued.
I'm sure there would be many factors that would have saved this drone, but I'm afraid we just weren't able to save it. It happens.
the mini 2 though👑
Mini 2 rules the skies.
Never let go Jack, never let go....
Don't make me cry. Oh Rose.
Ive been thinking of buying an Air 2s so i have been doing some research on them.
This vid appeared in my recommendations so I watched it. I thought the way it was presented was sad and a bit funny at the same time but the comments had me laughing my head off.
Im still laughing.
Sorry for your loss.
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The Air 2S is an excellent drone! It needs a few updates, but that's only normal for a new drones, don't worry about that. Yes, some of the commenters repeat themselves, then get all wound up, and then abusive, so some I just ban as they aren't playing nice. I try to keep the humour high though! Welcome to the channel in that case. The Air 2S is a great drone to pick up if you don't have a drone, you can be sure DJI will drop a few updates soon!
wow my heart goes out to you guys
Thank You Harold!
Oh noooo sorry to hear about that. I hope you have the DJI care refresh. I don’t want guess too much but technically looks a radio communication issue with the crystal or an issue in the intelligent battery but better that DJI investigate
Thank You. Yes, we had DJI Refresh, definitely was some serious problem that was beyond our control here.
@@PhillipSkraba right
I’ve had a similar experience with my DJI Mavic Pro a while ago flying over the open sea with strong winds when in less than a minute my drone was dragged over 1km away and the only way I could bring it back was finding the right direction to not fight too much against the wind. Good thing was my battery was 100%. As lighter the drone is more difficult will be for it win the wind battle so I don’t believe smaller drones should fly at all if there are strong winds. We sometimes just want things to go well 🤪 when it’s more likely to fail. Sorry for your loss mate. 🌊
Yes, my Mavic 2 Pro battled serious winds on Iceland, and my Mini on the Seychelles, but I managed to get both back home. What happened here with this drone really shocked me, whilst filming it happening with my phone I was sure it was going to get back home, so I was very saddened it didn't
Wow I mean the temptation to skip to the end was strong but the way you told this made us watch all the easy from start to end.
Thank You, I'm glad you watched all the way through.
Oh man! I know that feeling! I was watching the video and at the same time I was pushing forward my thumb against the screen to bring that bird back! 😰😅
haha, you're with us on this one! It was painful to watch, very painful.
You have my deepest sympathy - exact same thing happened to my Mavic Air 2 - started 56% battery out to sea and returned back at 40% and never made it. When it got to about 10% all control was lost and it just recorded the video until it ditched.
I'm sorry about that, we know how you feel. It's super frustrating it can't be overridden, I'm sure we could have made it home!