Go to tryfum.com/HIDDENXPERIA and use code HIDDENXPERIA to save an additional 10% off your order today. #ad Did the Flood cure ever exist? Was it ever used? Is there a modern Halo universe equivalent? Today, we answer all of that and more...
No cure I think the flood pulled back cause it knew if Humanity AND the forerunners worked together they'd lose but as for a cure I would imagine yes but it would mean humanity would evovle and become stronger and more advanced than the feral flood precursors flood, but I do not think the FLOOD itself is the test. the flood are more what happens when the precursors were wiped out and corrupted by anger
For real. Halo been dark since 2013 and the only ones keeping it alive are the content creators, lord knows 343 is doing nothing. Halo died at the end of H3 and that’s my head canon
Probably the Flood's greatest example of their strategic acumen. There was never a cure, but feinting towars there being one preserves humanity, provides a sense of complacency with the Forerunners, regrouping their forces in unknown space and could be revealed later by the Primordial to weaken morale. All in 1 move
I also like to think it might have been the flood who made a cure should it exist... So like the biblical flood it consumes everything then purges itself and makes an "Eden" possibly just to use as a honeytrap.
@@HiddenXperia Love the Video, but is it Not uncertain that Humanity was supposed to inheret the Mantel, But since "Infinite" the Salanin? Was this not to spite the Salanin to Tell the Humans they are the reclaimers of the Mantel?
Well he dumbed it down a lot. It was fed to their "pets" because it seemed to prevent disease (made healthier, improve mood (made calmer), lengthened life (longevity).... Can you think of any pet owner who wouldn't want their pet to be healthier, happier, and live longer? Only everyone! Was the first big brain move by the Flood... It gets their DNA out there, into an easily replicable creature, easily mutated and multiplied.
I want someone to do a video about what the universe would look like if the Didact had succeeded in convincing the ecumene to go with his Shield World plan rather than going with the Halo Array
@@anmolpatel793 I dunno man. Imagine a Shield World project where the Builders, Warrior Servants, and Lifeworkers came together to build the shield worlds. All the resources that went towards creating the Halo's would've gone to the shield worlds. The Didact wouldn't have been corrupted by the logic plague. I think it's a "What if?" Scenario worth thinking about lol
@@l0sts0ul89 it's a galactic scale level of tough parenting. multiple near extinctions, a full reset on our history, a daunting test yet to come, and the willingness to fuck with us in specific moments just to play the long game of getting us ready to take on the mantle.
What about Sergeant Johnson? He was, effectively, immune to Flood infection as a result of the Orion Spartan modifications to his body. Theoretically, that iteration of the augmentations WAS the cure/vaccine for Flood infection due to how messed up his neutral pathways were, IIRC.
Johnson's kind of a red herring in that regard, he's not immune and he's not even resistant, it's just that the ORION project altered his genetic make up so much that the Flood simpler to infect hosts instead of him, kinda like how in World War Z the infected choose not to infect people with terminal illnesses because it's more beneficial for them to infect a healthy host
I don’t think I have ever looked at your subscriber count 😂 I could’ve sworn you were already at a million. Been watching you for a few years now. Thanks for the epic content. Halo was my entire childhood.
Haha thanks man. The last 2 years since Infinite launch stagnated all of our growth like crazy but the last few months we seem to be finally breaking out of that stagnation and back into growth which is great to see
@@HiddenXperiai think with the infinite...."let down" people have been staying away from halo. BUT I am more than certain with Helldivers 2 being basically ODST. And other Halo things happening around the web.(Marty O'Donnell trying his hand at politics) The fans are slowing opening back up to Halo content. Maybe with the death of Rooster Teeth. A different company will take up the Red vs Blue IP and try again. I'm always down for more Halo anything.
100%, id play Halo at least once a day every single day since halo ce, then came Halo 4 and I was slightly annoyed at the massive inconsistencies, but i slogged through it... then we got 5 and I almost gave up entirely... then we got infinite and ive quit it. @@bombomos
The forerunners use of composers to rip the very essence or 'soul' from every single human kind of shows that the forerunners where kind of akin to sadistic children, playing with toys much more advanced than they themselves where. (As it was precursor technology above their understanding)
If there is a cure, my guess is that only the Precursors themselves have it. And they aren't willing to share it. Unless the final test for the Mantle of Responsibility is that cure. Humanity passes the test and the Flood never return. That could be interesting. Unless the Didact just unearthed something by curing his Logic Plague. New theory video ideas are always welcome. Another great Flood video Xperia. Always love watching your Flood related videos.
My head cannon is since the precursors are basically 4-dimensional beings and live on a higher realm, you’ll need a “4 dimensional” cure as well. You can’t cure a disease from a reality that’s higher than your own. Which means, like you said, only the precursors could cure it.
The cure would be something that prevents infection in the first place. Not nessecarilly saving the ones that are already gone Edit: In theory if you could prevent the Flood from getting new bodies you could eventually eradicate them
Humans faced The Flood by sacrificing some of them and their planets for the sake of the rest, understanding how unavoidable of a fate it was. Forerunners faced The Flood by sacrificing the whole galaxy before letting themselves die. The Precursors' choice to give humans The Mantle made so much sense.
Had a thought. What if ancient humanity was spared because they HAD passed the precursors' test, but because of the actions of the forerunners, they didn't get the chance to receive the mantle?
I want Halo to make a comeback so bad I just hope the next release hits that mark. Thank you for not abandoning the community. This franchise has meant alot to me over the years hate to see the state its in.
Halo Infinite feels like 80% of the game was cut off and they just made it open world to waste our time in giving us a false sense of the map being big when it's only just one biome.
The Flood is an organism, I've seen some people ask why there can't be a cure, but to best break it down in simple terms: You can't *cure* a Zebra that's been eaten by a Lion, the same way you can't *cure* someone whose been consumed by the Flood. Key word there: consumed. Even though the Flood doesn't digest its food like a normal organism, it uses it completely just the same. Instead of taking your nutrients and discarding the rest as waste, it uses *everything* and repurposes your biomass as anything it wants. If your arm was to somehow get 'infected' by the Flood but not you, there is no 'your arm' left, it's Flood biomass.
The cure would be an immunity to Flood infection. Inoculate your entire population to be immune to flood infection and they wouldn't be able to replenish their numbers.
Girl we cure bacterial, viral, and parasitic infections all the time. They're just tiny creatures inside our bodies that maybe our blood can neutralize before it grows. Even if tiny flood spores activate and start full eating our cells (say making them lyse and consuming ) there's a possibility with advanced sci Fi medicine we'd have nano machines or wildly augmented blood cells that can neutralize flood cells. The vaccine could just be nanomachines even (but that sounds expensive). The flood really do sound like they're somewhere between a fungus and a virus, both of which we can be immunized against with current technologies.. tho we don't really have a need to be immunized against fungal infections mostly
you know.. far as intentional outbreaks go.. from the more recent Halo Infinite side story about Saturn, we do have a flood infested ship roaming somewhere in space. will we see it again in the form of the true test starting, will it just be a passing mention?
It's likely never coming up again because it's unlikely to have actually escaped. No gravemind means combat forms can't drive vehicles and since that story was before infinite there would have been a flood outbreak before infinite's story started.
@@AxisChurchDevotee no gravemind just means they are feral, they don't need to don't the ship to drift for a few years, decades even then crash on some backwater world.
@@CerberusGenesis It wouldn't be able to use the ship at all due to the complexity of it. Combat forms can't do anything strategic or complex without a keymind.
@@AxisChurchDevotee i just stated they don't need to actually use the ship. It's the flood, they can stay in a dormant feral state for decades. They can just float through space until someone finds them or they crash into something.
@@CerberusGenesis No I mean the ship is unlikely to have even taken off. Combat form can't do anything complex like that. Without a keymind they are just in "Attack and infect anything" mode.
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND why no one went with creating a Halo horror approach to their video game.. The first game created SUCH a eerie perfect foundation to eventual games being made leaning way more into that direction with eerie vibes and creative story telling.. It makes no sense how these devs cannot see the potential there!?
I remember laughing when i saw that the Flood origin story began when some dumbasses decided to rub unknown space dust on their dogs. Like....of all things. And why would you put some unknown dust found on a space ship on your pets. Just the dumbest ways to create the most horrifying creature un all the galaxy's history.
Europeans ground up egyptian mummies and used the powder as medicine well into the 18th century so it isn't like modern humans are any better when it comes to having questionable applications for ancient corpse-dust...
It has it's origins in reality you know. We don't have very many Egyptian mummies left because Europeans were like 'hmm looks like beef jerky' and quite literally ATE them or used the bodies as paint. So yeah, it tracks.
I hope the Ancient Humans stay super mysterious. With the Precursors gettin quite a bit of exposition lately, not knowing something about the pre purification galaxy is valuable.
Though once you get infected wouldnt reversing it kill you if you didnt die during transformation that is. Cuz your body is all mangled and deformed so i dont think curing it can happen. But inmmunization i think would be possible
the test is that you have to become a transcendent teir 1 species to excape the flood similar to how the halos dont kill the flood because they are beyond nervous systems, which is also what the flood feeds on.
i agree, the floods actions during the outbreaks in halo 1 and 2 always seemed odd to me. during the initial outbreak they acted based on instinct, but once a gravemind formed they almost seemed to only combat the convent aggressively but seemed to only combat humanity in a defensive setting
A part of me wants to say they targeted the covenant heavily because they worshipped their mortal enemies, the forerunners while for humanity the primordial’s conscience in the gravemind knew humanity wasn’t ready for the test yet.
I have a theory, which may be opposed by other lore pieces, but I'd like to share it. What if the ancient Humans were deemed worthy of the Mantle by The Flood, which is why they were left alone? I know it's an outlandish theory, but please hear me out. We know that The Precursors deemed humanity worthy, but maybe there were some who, after becoming The Flood, wanted to see how humanity would fare in an open conflict to prove themselves worthy of holding the Mantle. Perhaps during the War, humanity did something that proved their worthiness, and that's why The Flood chose to leave them alone and slowly withdraw. But when the Forerunners went on a genocidal campaign against humanity, that was the final straw for The Flood. The Precursors grew tired of the Forerunner Empire's arrogance and their lust for absolute power, so they unleashed pure horror, the likes of which the Forerunners had never seen before. We can always chalk up what The Primordial stated as a way to mess with them since why would it reveal its true plans? The Precursors existed for an untold amount of time and likely came from another plain of existence, so why would they reveal their true plan? I don't know, but I thought it could be an interesting theory that some may like. Edit: I started writing this before i finished the Video since i didn't want to loose my train of thought so it's bit similar to what's said later on but this was written before hand.
10:22 I’ve been playing since Halo CE and only just now realised that the little tentacles sticking out of combat forms belong to the infection form that infected the host. I thought they were just tentacles that grew, but no, it’s the infection form… … That creeps me out even more for some reason.
A topic I would love to see you discuss, would be... Is Time Travel or any form of Time Manipulation possible within the Halo Universe and lore? I don't know enough of all of the entire Halo series Lore, to know if there is technology or anything possible to travel through, or manipulate time in any fashion Could Master Chief go back in time, and change any events from any Halo? I bring this up, to also discuss the Flood Cure Could John ultimately go back in time, to when the Precursor were turning themselves into dust, and get them to stop. Informing them of what will happen Thus, changing the entire timeline to the Flood never even existing And because the Precursors have power beyond time and space, maybe they would be aware of what happened in this alternate past (their future) timeline, and then know Humans deserve the mantel, because they passed the test, by stopping the flood through time travel
I would like a horror game involving the flood. Instead of playing as a Spartan or an ODST, you play as a regular ordinary person. Being so vulnerable would take what's already a horrific threat and makes it even more threatening. Maybe have it be one of ONI's several failed experiments on the flood.
If there ever was or will be a cure, I'd imagine it wouldn't be able to reverse/restore the host infected due to the sheer damage done to their bodies (liquified organs, broken limbs, tendrils sticking out of everything, etc.). If anything, all the cure would do is simply kill off the flood super cells in the body as well as severing the connection the flood has with the hosts body, which even then would just leave behind a rotting corpse.
Well im theory the flood only moves because the primordial directed it to. The flood is a fletching version of the primordial. All the forerunners did by destroying "the last of the primordials" was cause a slight very heart felt detour. Like the primordials are those people who get a call on their way home from work and the girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband, ect, breaks up with them. And the primordial some how manages not to yank the wheel to the side, and eventually put their life back together better than before. Of course were talking about an interaction between two people and a cosmic entity that so happened to "seemed" like it got eradicated. Longer story shorter. The primordial was just set back a couple of steps in whatever it was doing. Humanity is a part of what the primordial is doing. The forerunners got in the way. The primordials will make it seem like there coming for the forerunners just for the forerunners to crush themselves under their own ignorance and paranoia. While feeding humanities flame that can only be described in thes few words. "AGAINST ALL ODDS" and much like preparing for a final test in school. There are pre tests. Well practice tests and study material. What we have seen so far the waves of flood coming and going. Practice test. Research on flood infestation such as infected individuals and most valuable pure forms as their directly connected to the genetic coding. Leading to counter measures Such as attempting to freeze the ever changing biology of a group of flood by exposing them to the medusan toxin. Original i know. Moving on... Study material. Must i go on.
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist” I recently re-read the Forerunner trilogy and I’m convinced that the Flood convincing them that there was a cure was their greatest trick. Another great video man, I love these deep dives and theories taken from the books and presented like this, keep up the good work.
@@markricheard1870 the cure hasn’t been discovered yet. And the quote was about misdirection and being able to get people to believe what you are trying to get them to believe. Also I know the devil isn’t real, and the Flood aren’t either
Wait it not only takes over the body but imbeds itself into the soul of a being. Dude that's beyond terrifying your alone with this other being inside your mind and one with your soul
Worse that if your family also consumed by the parasite it uses them against you. Torturing you forever, the halo were a great weapon against the flood.
love your vids - always enlightening to me as someone who never played the games, but wanted to know the lore. One note, and this may be due our different regional accents, but when you say forerunner, I hear "foreigner" instead of "4 Runner" and it throws me every time. lol.
To immunize...to cure. I still struggle with multiple layers of memory of fighting the Flood, but I know this cure is possible, even though the full genius of the Forerunners was unable to achieve it
His genetic code was difficult for the particularly old infection form to decode. Johnson was able to kill it before it made any meaningful infection progress
It wasn't that he had a full immunity from the flood it was more that any infection form that tried to infect him would just have an unreasonably bitch of a time doing it because as we all know the flood take control of you through your nervous system and it is extremely important for them to get the central nervous system however the Spartan one augmentations that Sergeant Johnson had royally fucked his nervous system to the point where it was near impossible not impossible but near impossible for a flood infection form to effectively infect him to the point where it would take too much time fiddling around on top of him while Sargent Johnson's still in control (and would obviously be killing the infection form) as well as an extremely weak connection to the host anyway because of the damaged nervous system that it was just not worth it in the floods eyes
I'd love to see a future Halo game bring back the Flood but make them a more ferocious and intelligent enemy as the "final test" for the Mantle. Giving them more unique forms and more diverse AI so that they are more fun to fight would go a long way, in addition to the traditional combat forms. Also seeing Keyminds would be sick. Also, super hot take, but I think bringing the Prometheans back as a machine more future-esque Terminator type species would be sick if done right! The problem fighting those guys is it just wasn't fun with all their teleporting and stuff. If they were reworked to have parts of their metallic framework breaking off during combat, it would really make fighting them more visceral and give more visual feedback to the player! It wouldn't delve into gore either if 343 wanted to keep that T rating, and could still give us that rawness and physicsy fun that's been lacking from Halo games since the Bungie days. Just imagine the Prometheans becoming allies with the monitors of a few installations, and fighting side by side with Sentinels in scenes reminiscent of Future War in the Terminator movies. And also Promethean styled vehicles. Fighting as the Arbiter to unify the fractured post-Covenant species still tangled by war. Discovering the true mystery of Zeta Halo: that all these years later The Primordial had hid away his consciousness before dying with the Endless. And that The Endless's goal was to return from deep space with him to finally enact their plan to conquer the galaxy and prove to the Primordial that they, not humanity, were worthy of the mantle. All while the Primordial's true goal was to enact the final test for humanity: to unleash the flood on a scale never seen, and bring hidden Key minds from deep space to the Milky Way. This version of the parasite would be far superior to what had been fought before. And even factions of humanity begin to question whether or not they should light the Halo array as a last resort to killing the Flood.
Greg Bear’s Forerunner Saga was an incredibly interesting and insightful. Just imagine being an ancient human scientist, conversing with a being that’s possibly your creator and he reveals the powdery substance in your food and makeup is actually a parasitic, galaxy killing creature and it’s in your system. I bet that’s what made some of them to go insane.
Imagine what halo would have been like if those early humans had decided to burn that supposedly “harmless “ space powder instead of feeding it to their alien space dogs?
Interesting that I never got a UA-cam notification for this, despite the fact that I’m subscribed with notifications on. I wouldn’t have seen this if it wasn’t for the discord notification. Is this a problem anyone else is having?
There's a very high likelihood that you've been subscribed long enough that the algorithm has stopped showing you the videos and/or notifying you. It's happened on a few other channels that I follow.
@@TravlerBlue I’ve been subscribed for longer than I can remember, so that makes sense. Come to think of it, I think Xperia might’ve been the first person I subscribed to when I made this account.
What about in the books with sgt Johnson , he was immune to the flood because he was exposed to a crate of plasma gernades and and was diagnosed with a disease that was treatable but he rises to get it treated?
Never been able to quite understand this part of the lore. Ancient humanity, hyper advanced, almost comparable to the forerunners... "Hey I have an idea, let's feed the mystery dust that came from those mystery ships to our dogs. Seemed fine when we tested it"
Oh and a new idea. So you make a planet that has floating cities and the atmosphere is just a glassing beam that got stretched across the "planet" aka The glassing beam bubble.
I think the precursor’s final test might involve one of the strongest in humanity’s ranks being devoured and learned from to better challenge humanity, like a spartan infected by the flood and managing to escape to use its spartan knowledge to better accumulate power.
from what I understand, the cure has to do something with neural physics, with the UrDidact being cured by a composer, which uses a cruder form of them to digitize a consciousness, so if there is one, it has to use them in some way
Not even close.They don't imitate their victims, and they have a clear goal of just testing humanity.The thing has no clear motive beyond survival and can hide its entire being.Not only that,but the food doesn't turn on itself like the thing would to preserve its cover.
I always thought it would be interesting if someone who is already being affected by the flood got hit by the composer and when they were made as a Promethean it turned into a unique strain of the infection
I don’t think there is another well “flood” unless another group of precursors turned themselves to dust and became flood. But I think the flood is the result of something happening to these dust form precursors.
I think the Halo trilogy was basically a Flood recond missions that was way more successful than planned. The Flood used the situations to place pieces for the future. Getting a Flood foothold on the Ark was way more than they had hoped. Theyvalso may have communicated with Harbinger.
So short answer: physical transformation can be prevented via Composing, Logic Plague however can be through... however the Didact did it. Possible to be effectively immune from infection
My headcanon about the Flood is that when the Ancient Humans talked with the last Precursor, he told them that Humanity and all life in the galaxy's only purpose was to feed the Precursors with their precious life experiences. All the hope, dread, hate, love, anger and peace that each being feels is nothing more than a hearty meal for the Precursors to devour. And the Precursors create scenarios to feed on particular emotions and experiences, resetting the galaxy to begin anew for when they tire of the current one. And the current scenario that the Precursors were craving was the dread, hopelessness, and insanity inducing fear that the Flood create. I don't blame those Ancient Humans for committing mass self deletion upon hearing this truth, for what more could you hope to live for if your life's experiences was engineered to be nothing more than food for such eldritch beings?
"what more could you hope to live for if your life's experiences was engineered to be nothing more than food for such eldritch beings?" "Killing them for doing it, then being free of them." is the answer to that. To be fair, not everyone would take that response, and it's clear none of the researchers had the fighting spirit to take that response.
What about Sergeant Johnson didn't one of the books say that he's immune to the flood because of all the augmentations and shit that he had and that's how we survived Halo 1 lol
have ya done a video breaking down all the religious symbolism and why it is there? Does it serve a purpose or is it just a vibe? flood, halo, prophet, etc. obvii some sort of critique on using religion to obtain some goal.
Can you explain two things: 1. How did the forerunners destroy the precursors if they were so advanced? 2. How did the original flood precursors get corrupted?
Listening to you talking about the Flood is so very much enjoyable for me, thank you for continued videos into this sort of thing. (As well Halo in general, a shame that the lore is so rich yet the games are stale, though Infinite is recovering quite well all considered.
Just started this video, I’ve read primordial and am on silentium right now. I remember the primordial telling I think chakas (guilty spark) that humanity wasn’t immune they just chose not to infect some.
I feel like the spartan 1 program had it right . Johnson couldn’t get physically infected… at least not when he’s alive. But having a cancer that kills infection really easy would help.
Sgt. Johnson in halo combat evolved developed immunity because of a illness caused by a type of radiation which was somehow cured by a flood infection form
In the ending cutscene of Halo 3's level Floodgate, Cortana said "On the other side, there's a solution, a way to stop the flood without firing the remaining halo rings", now you could argue that this is Cortana is in rampancy from the logic plague by the gravemind, but i would be interested in knowing if there was a real cure to the flood or not.
remember when you raised the rebuild installation 04 on the arc. MC asked Spark if he knew about the rebuild one from the beginning and Spark more or less said there have been implications of sorts... Its possible that Cortana also learned about it and concluded this as a secret solution. Get the flood there and fire just that one instead of all rings.
Actually, Johnson was immune, however it was through a number of incidents that lead to this. One was the Project Orion, or Spartan 1 augmentations. They made it difficult for the Flood. The second had to do with a treatment for a type of radioactive exposure he had with Covenant plasma. I want to say it was their grenades, and I mean a lot of them, but he never finished the treatment. In one of the books, a Flood form tried to infect Johnson, but immediately retracted from him. And other forms around him upon this reaction never tried to infect him. Chief was made aware of Johnson's medical records and had the footage of Johnson's encounter with the Flood and how they rejected him. I know he destroyed the chip with the medical records fearing ONI would lock Johnson up and tear him apart to find the answers, so and he figured the footage would be more than sufficient as proof of the Flood and the dangers it posed. I don't think Johnson had the cure, but I do think he might have something akin to what ancient humanity did with the genetic disease. Something that would have an adverse effect to the Flood that made him harder to infect and something that had a degrading effect to its own genetic coding. However, replicating this exact make up with each and every person would be nearly impossible or at least very insurmountable as the biology of one human to another is vastly different. So, getting it right for one person may not work on the next one, the next few thousand. The death toll to have this make up for humanity would be nearly extinction level.
@@danielbeck2739 what? no. stop making stuff up, johnson was never inmune, halsey stated he was just harder to infect, also you confused facts, jonhson never got radiation treatment caused by the grenades, what happened is that halsey made up a medical condition caused by plasma grenades, TO COVER THAT JOHNSON RESISTANCE TO FLOOD WAS CAUSED BY HIM BEING A SPARTAN, since spartans 1 are actually a secret no one should know about.
@@delawarevex4976 That's not what I recall, however if I'm mistaken then I apologize. Been years since I read the books, but I do remember certain details from them. Again, been years, so if you could at least tell me which book it was in because I know it is near the tail end of either the Flood or the one(s) that came right after Chief escaped the Halo ring itself. I would like to verify it myself as it appears you might know what I'm referring to.
I could be entirely wrong, but isnt the Reason Sgt. Johnson survived Alpha Halo is because of his Spartan 1 Augmentations? The Flood seemingly either wanted nothing to do with him or his skin was so thick they couldnt penetrate it with their tentacles. I always wondered why that wasnt studied more and then tried to be put to use in efforts to contain/eradicate the flood
I like how the flood kinda is most important thing in halo the rings and arcs were made for that threat yet modern halo we dont see many rings anymore....or flood but apparently there are "things worse then the food" as cortana would say
@AxisChurchDevotee I concur although I think its unlikely because they precursors became the flood after being corrupted in thier dormant state for so long it could be that alien race from.outside the milky way as we know the flood are in other galaxies there is a case of an unknown alien ship crashed I forgot where but it was for sure not of the milky way
@@AxisChurchDevoteefrom the perspective of the forerunners. Still don't see how they're worse than the flood when the harbinger is pretty much amenable and negotiable to allying with the Banished, to which I'm not even sure to why she even needed to over the humans.
@@Quetzalcoatlus100 Note her abilities are pretty insane. Constant teleport, powerful energy blast, potential time travel. She's basically a space wizard. Also remember that the primordial/gracemind controls the flood via neural physics so the endless could all do the same using their abilities to act as keyminds so the flood would immediately be in rr coordinator stage and given their space magic they'd be a deadly threat since you'd have the galaxy eating parasite lead by angry space wizards.
@@AxisChurchDevotee True regarding the abilities, pretty whack for sure but you'd have to assume the Harbinger species are actually okay with the flood idea despite the possible connection to them. It's far more likely the flood would encourage them into the fold using their grievances. Again, the Harbinger doesn't really show much motivation side "my peoples be locked up because forerunners are dicks" and seems perfectly amenable albeit like a child throwing a tantrum, perfect for manipulation. The dangerous aspect is more their potential abilities if absorbed by the flood. Which if they evaded the halo array, then the flood can too if absorbed. (Probably would've been more fleshed out if 343 actually finished halo infinites story)
Go to tryfum.com/HIDDENXPERIA and use code HIDDENXPERIA to save an additional 10% off your order today. #ad
Did the Flood cure ever exist? Was it ever used? Is there a modern Halo universe equivalent? Today, we answer all of that and more...
Lets go got here quick
Same
Nice video, but I still think my favourite flavor is oxygen.
No cure I think the flood pulled back cause it knew if Humanity AND the forerunners worked together they'd lose but as for a cure I would imagine yes but it would mean humanity would evovle and become stronger and more advanced than the feral flood precursors flood, but I do not think the FLOOD itself is the test. the flood are more what happens when the precursors were wiped out and corrupted by anger
Fine, I'll sub for the flood lore. Wish 343 gave a single shit about it.
*Body gets mutilated, transformed, controlled and broken apart*
Forerunners: Yeah that's fixable
Nothing a bit of hardlight can't fix
Have some faith goddamnit!
Ancient humanity used Vicks and chanted "sana sana colita de rana" cure, and the Forerunners were baffled by this.
WD-40
FIRE THE HALO RINGS!!!
Thanks for supporting the Halo community through all its ups and downs bro, keep doing what you're doing.
For real. Halo been dark since 2013 and the only ones keeping it alive are the content creators, lord knows 343 is doing nothing. Halo died at the end of H3 and that’s my head canon
What ups?
Halo wars 2 was good though
WHAT HE SAID☝️
Appreciate that king
Probably the Flood's greatest example of their strategic acumen. There was never a cure, but feinting towars there being one preserves humanity, provides a sense of complacency with the Forerunners, regrouping their forces in unknown space and could be revealed later by the Primordial to weaken morale. All in 1 move
500IQ play tbh
@@HiddenXperia
Takes the phrase "galaxy brain move" to a whole new level, a literal one 😂
I also like to think it might have been the flood who made a cure should it exist... So like the biblical flood it consumes everything then purges itself and makes an "Eden" possibly just to use as a honeytrap.
@@HiddenXperia Love the Video, but is it Not uncertain that Humanity was supposed to inheret the Mantel, But since "Infinite" the Salanin? Was this not to spite the Salanin to Tell the Humans they are the reclaimers of the Mantel?
Dang, that's pretty clever. Sheesh.
Weird powder lands on your planets .”lets feed it to our dogs “ I think ancient human weren’t that bright
Well he dumbed it down a lot. It was fed to their "pets" because it seemed to prevent disease (made healthier, improve mood (made calmer), lengthened life (longevity).... Can you think of any pet owner who wouldn't want their pet to be healthier, happier, and live longer? Only everyone!
Was the first big brain move by the Flood... It gets their DNA out there, into an easily replicable creature, easily mutated and multiplied.
@@RikoLime And one you _really_ don't want to put down. Delays long enough for it to be too late.
You think humans today are any smarter? All it takes is one influencer to be like. WOW my dog loves this powder stuff. BOOM flood infection
Or more like: "'Wuzzat?' 'IDK, feed it to the dog.'" is in our DNA.
@@leandersearle5094I don't know man, every pet owner I've ever met will yell "WHAT ARE YOU EATING?" if they see their pet got a hold of something.
I want someone to do a video about what the universe would look like if the Didact had succeeded in convincing the ecumene to go with his Shield World plan rather than going with the Halo Array
All the shield worlds that have been discovered yet have been overrun by the flood so there you have your answer
@@anmolpatel793 I dunno man. Imagine a Shield World project where the Builders, Warrior Servants, and Lifeworkers came together to build the shield worlds. All the resources that went towards creating the Halo's would've gone to the shield worlds. The Didact wouldn't have been corrupted by the logic plague.
I think it's a "What if?" Scenario worth thinking about lol
@@anmolpatel793 what about requiem? genesis too
@@anmolpatel793I legitimately do not know the answer to this but wouldn't they be overrun by the flood because theres no one there to defend them?
"Trove" shield world 459 had a flood free interior as the sentinels did not overextend themselves.
I'd call that a success.
The "cure" requires that we throw Master Chief into the beam of a Halo. It'll make the energy green, and the Flood will stop being jerks.
Them being mean and bullying me was my biggest issue with the flood tbh
The real question is whether Ashley or the Kaidon survives.
...
I'll show my self out.
"... stop being jerks."
To put it mildly.
Nice mass effect reference
@@MatthewJamesKalasky "Understatements" are the best statements.
The flood actually wanting humans to succeed is a truly haunting thought
I don't get it
@@l0sts0ul89it's because humans are being farmed like cattle to the flood.
@@l0sts0ul89 it's a galactic scale level of tough parenting. multiple near extinctions, a full reset on our history, a daunting test yet to come, and the willingness to fuck with us in specific moments just to play the long game of getting us ready to take on the mantle.
@@SamsarasArt ah, yeah that's bad
@@blackmage665 Humans number 1!!! 🌎🌎🌎🌎🌎
I'm a simple man. I get a HiddenXperia upload notification about the Flood, I immediately drop everything to watch.
He's telling the truth, I am his newborn kid, who has been on the floor for 4 hours.
What about Sergeant Johnson?
He was, effectively, immune to Flood infection as a result of the Orion Spartan modifications to his body.
Theoretically, that iteration of the augmentations WAS the cure/vaccine for Flood infection due to how messed up his neutral pathways were, IIRC.
Johnson's kind of a red herring in that regard, he's not immune and he's not even resistant, it's just that the ORION project altered his genetic make up so much that the Flood simpler to infect hosts instead of him, kinda like how in World War Z the infected choose not to infect people with terminal illnesses because it's more beneficial for them to infect a healthy host
I thought his DNA was scrambled when a nearby case of plasma grenades detonated, the radiation basically frying him
@@mousecyr01he can still be used for biomass like everything else. There’s just better hosts present at the time.
@@HiddenXperia Holy that explains it just like jackles and grunts. The infection needs to get worse before they go for Johnson... Huh fascinating
@@mousecyr01that's the official cover-story provided by ONI as to Johnson's condition.
I don’t think I have ever looked at your subscriber count 😂 I could’ve sworn you were already at a million. Been watching you for a few years now. Thanks for the epic content. Halo was my entire childhood.
Haha thanks man. The last 2 years since Infinite launch stagnated all of our growth like crazy but the last few months we seem to be finally breaking out of that stagnation and back into growth which is great to see
@@HiddenXperiai think with the infinite...."let down" people have been staying away from halo.
BUT I am more than certain with Helldivers 2 being basically ODST. And other Halo things happening around the web.(Marty O'Donnell trying his hand at politics) The fans are slowing opening back up to Halo content.
Maybe with the death of Rooster Teeth. A different company will take up the Red vs Blue IP and try again. I'm always down for more Halo anything.
100%, id play Halo at least once a day every single day since halo ce, then came Halo 4 and I was slightly annoyed at the massive inconsistencies, but i slogged through it... then we got 5 and I almost gave up entirely... then we got infinite and ive quit it. @@bombomos
me to i thought he had10 mil
You would think that after infecting the first human in an experiment would make the forunners go "huh, I guess they're not immune.."
The forerunners use of composers to rip the very essence or 'soul' from every single human kind of shows that the forerunners where kind of akin to sadistic children, playing with toys much more advanced than they themselves where. (As it was precursor technology above their understanding)
If there is a cure, my guess is that only the Precursors themselves have it. And they aren't willing to share it. Unless the final test for the Mantle of Responsibility is that cure. Humanity passes the test and the Flood never return. That could be interesting. Unless the Didact just unearthed something by curing his Logic Plague. New theory video ideas are always welcome.
Another great Flood video Xperia. Always love watching your Flood related videos.
My head cannon is since the precursors are basically 4-dimensional beings and live on a higher realm, you’ll need a “4 dimensional” cure as well. You can’t cure a disease from a reality that’s higher than your own. Which means, like you said, only the precursors could cure it.
Well the precursors ARE the flood... So I highly doubt any fire exists
Glassing and Fire
The flood wouldn't care
@@thedead073This is fine 🔥🔥🔥
@@thedead073 I know but it's like it will hold them off for a little while the glass half of Africa and the flood hasn't got out yet
The fact that flood infection kills its victims while simultaneously causing rapid decomposition makes me pretty sure a cure would be impossible
That's why cure would probably be some kind of vaccine aka immunity.
Sometimes. Sometimes the flood keeps the host alive. Aka Keyes and Jenkins
wouldn't be a cure but more of a vaccine that would make you immune to the floods super virus
a true cure would be a form resurrection
The cure would be something that prevents infection in the first place. Not nessecarilly saving the ones that are already gone Edit: In theory if you could prevent the Flood from getting new bodies you could eventually eradicate them
Humans faced The Flood by sacrificing some of them and their planets for the sake of the rest, understanding how unavoidable of a fate it was.
Forerunners faced The Flood by sacrificing the whole galaxy before letting themselves die.
The Precursors' choice to give humans The Mantle made so much sense.
The Flood completely steamrolled the forerunners, while The Flood pulled some punches while on earth.
The flood hates the Forerunners because of there selfishness and ego
Still doesnt make sense why the forerunners wouldnt save their species which is why the "forerunners are aliens" retcon makes no sense.
@@bruhgod123 ego + hubris = destruction
@@unrulybot1352 That still doesnt explain why the Forerunners didnt save their species.
You're one heck of a story teller, effortlessly keeping it interesting and gripping.
ayyy appreciate that chief! I spend ages writing vids so this means a lot :)
As much as I appreciate the deep lore, I often miss the mystery of the flood and the Forerunners that Bungie had set up.
Had a thought. What if ancient humanity was spared because they HAD passed the precursors' test, but because of the actions of the forerunners, they didn't get the chance to receive the mantle?
I want Halo to make a comeback so bad I just hope the next release hits that mark. Thank you for not abandoning the community. This franchise has meant alot to me over the years hate to see the state its in.
It is genuinely criminal that we never got The Palace of Pain in Halo Infinite
We probably were going to via campaign DLC but poor management ruined everything.
Halo Infinite feels like 80% of the game was cut off and they just made it open world to waste our time in giving us a false sense of the map being big when it's only just one biome.
@@Kasgigz We probably would have gotten campaign dlc based on each level of CE.
This man and installation 00 are my only hope to keep Halo's Story alive
Johnson… something inside that spartan 1 augmentation changed something
The Flood is an organism, I've seen some people ask why there can't be a cure, but to best break it down in simple terms: You can't *cure* a Zebra that's been eaten by a Lion, the same way you can't *cure* someone whose been consumed by the Flood. Key word there: consumed. Even though the Flood doesn't digest its food like a normal organism, it uses it completely just the same. Instead of taking your nutrients and discarding the rest as waste, it uses *everything* and repurposes your biomass as anything it wants.
If your arm was to somehow get 'infected' by the Flood but not you, there is no 'your arm' left, it's Flood biomass.
The cure would be an immunity to Flood infection. Inoculate your entire population to be immune to flood infection and they wouldn't be able to replenish their numbers.
Girl we cure bacterial, viral, and parasitic infections all the time. They're just tiny creatures inside our bodies that maybe our blood can neutralize before it grows. Even if tiny flood spores activate and start full eating our cells (say making them lyse and consuming ) there's a possibility with advanced sci Fi medicine we'd have nano machines or wildly augmented blood cells that can neutralize flood cells. The vaccine could just be nanomachines even (but that sounds expensive).
The flood really do sound like they're somewhere between a fungus and a virus, both of which we can be immunized against with current technologies.. tho we don't really have a need to be immunized against fungal infections mostly
you know.. far as intentional outbreaks go.. from the more recent Halo Infinite side story about Saturn, we do have a flood infested ship roaming somewhere in space. will we see it again in the form of the true test starting, will it just be a passing mention?
It's likely never coming up again because it's unlikely to have actually escaped. No gravemind means combat forms can't drive vehicles and since that story was before infinite there would have been a flood outbreak before infinite's story started.
@@AxisChurchDevotee no gravemind just means they are feral, they don't need to don't the ship to drift for a few years, decades even then crash on some backwater world.
@@CerberusGenesis It wouldn't be able to use the ship at all due to the complexity of it. Combat forms can't do anything strategic or complex without a keymind.
@@AxisChurchDevotee i just stated they don't need to actually use the ship. It's the flood, they can stay in a dormant feral state for decades. They can just float through space until someone finds them or they crash into something.
@@CerberusGenesis No I mean the ship is unlikely to have even taken off. Combat form can't do anything complex like that. Without a keymind they are just in "Attack and infect anything" mode.
Xperia baack with a banger
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND why no one went with creating a Halo horror approach to their video game.. The first game created SUCH a eerie perfect foundation to eventual games being made leaning way more into that direction with eerie vibes and creative story telling.. It makes no sense how these devs cannot see the potential there!?
I remember laughing when i saw that the Flood origin story began when some dumbasses decided to rub unknown space dust on their dogs. Like....of all things. And why would you put some unknown dust found on a space ship on your pets. Just the dumbest ways to create the most horrifying creature un all the galaxy's history.
All of this is pretty dumb. Halo lore is kind of wack
You think too highly of people/Forerunners
Europeans ground up egyptian mummies and used the powder as medicine well into the 18th century so it isn't like modern humans are any better when it comes to having questionable applications for ancient corpse-dust...
It has it's origins in reality you know. We don't have very many Egyptian mummies left because Europeans were like 'hmm looks like beef jerky' and quite literally ATE them or used the bodies as paint. So yeah, it tracks.
Hidden has earned every sub he's got , happy to see him approaching 600k
I hope the Ancient Humans stay super mysterious. With the Precursors gettin quite a bit of exposition lately, not knowing something about the pre purification galaxy is valuable.
Though once you get infected wouldnt reversing it kill you if you didnt die during transformation that is. Cuz your body is all mangled and deformed so i dont think curing it can happen. But inmmunization i think would be possible
Yes that's more of what the Forerunners were expecting something that could prevent infection not nessecarilly reverting those already infected
the test is that you have to become a transcendent teir 1 species to excape the flood similar to how the halos dont kill the flood because they are beyond nervous systems, which is also what the flood feeds on.
i agree, the floods actions during the outbreaks in halo 1 and 2 always seemed odd to me. during the initial outbreak they acted based on instinct, but once a gravemind formed they almost seemed to only combat the convent aggressively but seemed to only combat humanity in a defensive setting
A part of me wants to say they targeted the covenant heavily because they worshipped their mortal enemies, the forerunners while for humanity the primordial’s conscience in the gravemind knew humanity wasn’t ready for the test yet.
4:15 wait… I never paid attention I thought this man was well past a million. Why haven’t we gotten him a gold plaque yet?
hopefully soon... 🫡
@@HiddenXperia you deserve it bro! 🫡
Indeed
Damn bro was looking through the how long ive been subbed for website and ive been watching you for 6 years. Heres to another 6 mate
I have a theory, which may be opposed by other lore pieces, but I'd like to share it. What if the ancient Humans were deemed worthy of the Mantle by The Flood, which is why they were left alone? I know it's an outlandish theory, but please hear me out.
We know that The Precursors deemed humanity worthy, but maybe there were some who, after becoming The Flood, wanted to see how humanity would fare in an open conflict to prove themselves worthy of holding the Mantle. Perhaps during the War, humanity did something that proved their worthiness, and that's why The Flood chose to leave them alone and slowly withdraw. But when the Forerunners went on a genocidal campaign against humanity, that was the final straw for The Flood. The Precursors grew tired of the Forerunner Empire's arrogance and their lust for absolute power, so they unleashed pure horror, the likes of which the Forerunners had never seen before. We can always chalk up what The Primordial stated as a way to mess with them since why would it reveal its true plans? The Precursors existed for an untold amount of time and likely came from another plain of existence, so why would they reveal their true plan? I don't know, but I thought it could be an interesting theory that some may like.
Edit: I started writing this before i finished the Video since i didn't want to loose my train of thought so it's bit similar to what's said later on but this was written before hand.
10:22
I’ve been playing since Halo CE and only just now realised that the little tentacles sticking out of combat forms belong to the infection form that infected the host. I thought they were just tentacles that grew, but no, it’s the infection form…
… That creeps me out even more for some reason.
A topic I would love to see you discuss, would be...
Is Time Travel or any form of Time Manipulation possible within the Halo Universe and lore?
I don't know enough of all of the entire Halo series Lore, to know if there is technology or anything possible to travel through, or manipulate time in any fashion
Could Master Chief go back in time, and change any events from any Halo?
I bring this up, to also discuss the Flood Cure
Could John ultimately go back in time, to when the Precursor were turning themselves into dust, and get them to stop. Informing them of what will happen
Thus, changing the entire timeline to the Flood never even existing
And because the Precursors have power beyond time and space, maybe they would be aware of what happened in this alternate past (their future) timeline, and then know Humans deserve the mantel, because they passed the test, by stopping the flood through time travel
This is was an unexpected but incredibly informing video. Scary to think what the Flood represent!
next video idea were there any marine survivors on delta halo
besides the ones with johnson and if any were on the in amber clad when it was infected
I would like a horror game involving the flood. Instead of playing as a Spartan or an ODST, you play as a regular ordinary person. Being so vulnerable would take what's already a horrific threat and makes it even more threatening. Maybe have it be one of ONI's several failed experiments on the flood.
Graveminds statement at the end of Halo 3 also implies that what we've seen so far wasnt the true test
I’ve never played any of these games, but I find these videos super interesting. It’s like listening to lore from a story I’ve never read.
If there ever was or will be a cure, I'd imagine it wouldn't be able to reverse/restore the host infected due to the sheer damage done to their bodies (liquified organs, broken limbs, tendrils sticking out of everything, etc.). If anything, all the cure would do is simply kill off the flood super cells in the body as well as severing the connection the flood has with the hosts body, which even then would just leave behind a rotting corpse.
the cure could just mean inoculation, not whole reversal of a flood form.
Well im theory the flood only moves because the primordial directed it to. The flood is a fletching version of the primordial.
All the forerunners did by destroying "the last of the primordials" was cause a slight very heart felt detour.
Like the primordials are those people who get a call on their way home from work and the girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband, ect, breaks up with them. And the primordial some how manages not to yank the wheel to the side, and eventually put their life back together better than before. Of course were talking about an interaction between two people and a cosmic entity that so happened to "seemed" like it got eradicated.
Longer story shorter.
The primordial was just set back a couple of steps in whatever it was doing.
Humanity is a part of what the primordial is doing.
The forerunners got in the way. The primordials will make it seem like there coming for the forerunners just for the forerunners to crush themselves under their own ignorance and paranoia.
While feeding humanities flame that can only be described in thes few words.
"AGAINST ALL ODDS"
and much like preparing for a final test in school. There are pre tests. Well practice tests and study material.
What we have seen so far the waves of flood coming and going. Practice test.
Research on flood infestation such as infected individuals and most valuable pure forms as their directly connected to the genetic coding. Leading to counter measures Such as attempting to freeze the ever changing biology of a group of flood by exposing them to the medusan toxin. Original i know. Moving on... Study material. Must i go on.
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”
I recently re-read the Forerunner trilogy and I’m convinced that the Flood convincing them that there was a cure was their greatest trick.
Another great video man, I love these deep dives and theories taken from the books and presented like this, keep up the good work.
But the cure did exist and the devil doesn’t so
@@markricheard1870 the cure hasn’t been discovered yet. And the quote was about misdirection and being able to get people to believe what you are trying to get them to believe. Also I know the devil isn’t real, and the Flood aren’t either
Wait it not only takes over the body but imbeds itself into the soul of a being. Dude that's beyond terrifying your alone with this other being inside your mind and one with your soul
Worse that if your family also consumed by the parasite it uses them against you. Torturing you forever, the halo were a great weapon against the flood.
love your vids - always enlightening to me as someone who never played the games, but wanted to know the lore. One note, and this may be due our different regional accents, but when you say forerunner, I hear "foreigner" instead of "4 Runner" and it throws me every time. lol.
To immunize...to cure. I still struggle with multiple layers of memory of fighting the Flood, but I know this cure is possible, even though the full genius of the Forerunners was unable to achieve it
I feel like we also forgot about how Sgt. Johnson had an immunity to the flood when it tried to infect him (or has that now been retconned?)
His genetic code was difficult for the particularly old infection form to decode. Johnson was able to kill it before it made any meaningful infection progress
It wasn't that he had a full immunity from the flood it was more that any infection form that tried to infect him would just have an unreasonably bitch of a time doing it because as we all know the flood take control of you through your nervous system and it is extremely important for them to get the central nervous system however the Spartan one augmentations that Sergeant Johnson had royally fucked his nervous system to the point where it was near impossible not impossible but near impossible for a flood infection form to effectively infect him to the point where it would take too much time fiddling around on top of him while Sargent Johnson's still in control (and would obviously be killing the infection form) as well as an extremely weak connection to the host anyway because of the damaged nervous system that it was just not worth it in the floods eyes
I'd love to see a future Halo game bring back the Flood but make them a more ferocious and intelligent enemy as the "final test" for the Mantle. Giving them more unique forms and more diverse AI so that they are more fun to fight would go a long way, in addition to the traditional combat forms. Also seeing Keyminds would be sick.
Also, super hot take, but I think bringing the Prometheans back as a machine more future-esque Terminator type species would be sick if done right! The problem fighting those guys is it just wasn't fun with all their teleporting and stuff. If they were reworked to have parts of their metallic framework breaking off during combat, it would really make fighting them more visceral and give more visual feedback to the player! It wouldn't delve into gore either if 343 wanted to keep that T rating, and could still give us that rawness and physicsy fun that's been lacking from Halo games since the Bungie days.
Just imagine the Prometheans becoming allies with the monitors of a few installations, and fighting side by side with Sentinels in scenes reminiscent of Future War in the Terminator movies. And also Promethean styled vehicles. Fighting as the Arbiter to unify the fractured post-Covenant species still tangled by war. Discovering the true mystery of Zeta Halo: that all these years later The Primordial had hid away his consciousness before dying with the Endless. And that The Endless's goal was to return from deep space with him to finally enact their plan to conquer the galaxy and prove to the Primordial that they, not humanity, were worthy of the mantle. All while the Primordial's true goal was to enact the final test for humanity: to unleash the flood on a scale never seen, and bring hidden Key minds from deep space to the Milky Way. This version of the parasite would be far superior to what had been fought before. And even factions of humanity begin to question whether or not they should light the Halo array as a last resort to killing the Flood.
Fingers crossed to hit 600k and beyond. You have been making videos that make me and many others - pun intended - hungry for more.
Greg Bear’s Forerunner Saga was an incredibly interesting and insightful. Just imagine being an ancient human scientist, conversing with a being that’s possibly your creator and he reveals the powdery substance in your food and makeup is actually a parasitic, galaxy killing creature and it’s in your system. I bet that’s what made some of them to go insane.
You and mint are my favorites. Great video.
Imagine what halo would have been like if those early humans had decided to burn that supposedly “harmless “ space powder instead of feeding it to their alien space dogs?
Ancient humanity's empire would've gone to war with the Forerunners for whatever reason, small or big.
man it really feels like they lost their focus on this overhead story this past decade
Interesting that I never got a UA-cam notification for this, despite the fact that I’m subscribed with notifications on. I wouldn’t have seen this if it wasn’t for the discord notification. Is this a problem anyone else is having?
There's a very high likelihood that you've been subscribed long enough that the algorithm has stopped showing you the videos and/or notifying you. It's happened on a few other channels that I follow.
@@TravlerBlue I’ve been subscribed for longer than I can remember, so that makes sense. Come to think of it, I think Xperia might’ve been the first person I subscribed to when I made this account.
I love watching your videos on the flood, truly fascinating finally learning more about them.
What about in the books with sgt Johnson , he was immune to the flood because he was exposed to a crate of plasma gernades and and was diagnosed with a disease that was treatable but he rises to get it treated?
He's not immune he's highly resistant.
I wonder if Chief and the Diadact are actually immune to the flood via their immunity to composition and connection to the domain.
Never been able to quite understand this part of the lore. Ancient humanity, hyper advanced, almost comparable to the forerunners... "Hey I have an idea, let's feed the mystery dust that came from those mystery ships to our dogs. Seemed fine when we tested it"
I did it…..I subscribed. I finally subscribed! Your content is awesome. I’m so lost in halo lore right now I love it!!!!
"Palace of Pain? Never heard of it. There is no existing lore for Installation 07" Actual dialogue from Halo Infinite Developer.
Pls tell me this is fake 😭
@@ShouPow with the way they went about making Halo Infinite and how they treated existing lore, its a high probability.
Oh and a new idea. So you make a planet that has floating cities and the atmosphere is just a glassing beam that got stretched across the "planet" aka The glassing beam bubble.
I would love to see you cover the X Parasites from Metroid
I love when an advertisement ends and then a sponsorship ad begins
I’m ngl, i use to not really like this channel, but i have been really loving your videos. Happy to sub 💕
You know that you can make a compliment sans leading with a dig or negativity? It added nothing of value.
Literally never played any of these games but fascinated by the story.
I think the precursor’s final test might involve one of the strongest in humanity’s ranks being devoured and learned from to better challenge humanity, like a spartan infected by the flood and managing to escape to use its spartan knowledge to better accumulate power.
from what I understand, the cure has to do something with neural physics, with the UrDidact being cured by a composer, which uses a cruder form of them to digitize a consciousness, so if there is one, it has to use them in some way
The Netherop precursors might be able cure it.
Whether they're inclined to undo a fellow precursor's work is another question.
Its soapy salt water yeah i wasn't expecting it either
Ork levels of imagination is obviously the cure, though I wouldn’t call it disturbing
So you’re telling me the origin of the flood is more like “The Thing” than I already thought possible lol
Not even close.They don't imitate their victims, and they have a clear goal of just testing humanity.The thing has no clear motive beyond survival and can hide its entire being.Not only that,but the food doesn't turn on itself like the thing would to preserve its cover.
Really love these videos learnt so much from playing the games and these videos
Ayyy let’s go another video!!
Wow man your videos are so cool
Still feels weird that the forerunners could make planet sized rings that wipe out all life in the galaxy but couldn’t deal with zombie space popcorn
I always thought it would be interesting if someone who is already being affected by the flood got hit by the composer and when they were made as a Promethean it turned into a unique strain of the infection
I wonder if the Flood from other galaxies would work with the Flood from the Milky Way or if they would attempt to take them over.
I don’t think there is another well “flood” unless another group of precursors turned themselves to dust and became flood. But I think the flood is the result of something happening to these dust form precursors.
I think the Halo trilogy was basically a Flood recond missions that was way more successful than planned. The Flood used the situations to place pieces for the future. Getting a Flood foothold on the Ark was way more than they had hoped. Theyvalso may have communicated with Harbinger.
So short answer: physical transformation can be prevented via Composing, Logic Plague however can be through... however the Didact did it.
Possible to be effectively immune from infection
Yes the cure would be preventing the infection to begin with. Zapping a Flood back to a human again is unlikely
My headcanon about the Flood is that when the Ancient Humans talked with the last Precursor, he told them that Humanity and all life in the galaxy's only purpose was to feed the Precursors with their precious life experiences. All the hope, dread, hate, love, anger and peace that each being feels is nothing more than a hearty meal for the Precursors to devour. And the Precursors create scenarios to feed on particular emotions and experiences, resetting the galaxy to begin anew for when they tire of the current one. And the current scenario that the Precursors were craving was the dread, hopelessness, and insanity inducing fear that the Flood create. I don't blame those Ancient Humans for committing mass self deletion upon hearing this truth, for what more could you hope to live for if your life's experiences was engineered to be nothing more than food for such eldritch beings?
"what more could you hope to live for if your life's experiences was engineered to be nothing more than food for such eldritch beings?"
"Killing them for doing it, then being free of them." is the answer to that. To be fair, not everyone would take that response, and it's clear none of the researchers had the fighting spirit to take that response.
What about Sergeant Johnson didn't one of the books say that he's immune to the flood because of all the augmentations and shit that he had and that's how we survived Halo 1 lol
He's kinda immune but not really immune his failed augmentation from orin protect kept the flood from getting a foot hold in his body.
have ya done a video breaking down all the religious symbolism and why it is there? Does it serve a purpose or is it just a vibe? flood, halo, prophet, etc. obvii some sort of critique on using religion to obtain some goal.
I have a question. What if Arbiter and Johnson had managed to get through to Tartarus on Delta halo?
Hi, I've been watching 👀 a lot of ur videos. (Flood included), I like ur videos a lot, bro. Keep it up.
Can you explain two things:
1. How did the forerunners destroy the precursors if they were so advanced?
2. How did the original flood precursors get corrupted?
Listening to you talking about the Flood is so very much enjoyable for me, thank you for continued videos into this sort of thing. (As well Halo in general, a shame that the lore is so rich yet the games are stale, though Infinite is recovering quite well all considered.
Just started this video, I’ve read primordial and am on silentium right now. I remember the primordial telling I think chakas (guilty spark) that humanity wasn’t immune they just chose not to infect some.
YEEEEAH I was right
Broooo I know the creators and owners of Fum! So cool you got sponsored by them!
That was entirely incidental by the way, I'm just a big Halo nerd and found your channel a month or so ago 😂
I feel like the spartan 1 program had it right . Johnson couldn’t get physically infected… at least not when he’s alive. But having a cancer that kills infection really easy would help.
Sgt. Johnson in halo combat evolved developed immunity because of a illness caused by a type of radiation which was somehow cured by a flood infection form
Not technically, he’s just MUCH much harder to infect.
In the ending cutscene of Halo 3's level Floodgate, Cortana said "On the other side, there's a solution, a way to stop the flood without firing the remaining halo rings", now you could argue that this is Cortana is in rampancy from the logic plague by the gravemind, but i would be interested in knowing if there was a real cure to the flood or not.
remember when you raised the rebuild installation 04 on the arc. MC asked Spark if he knew about the rebuild one from the beginning and Spark more or less said there have been implications of sorts...
Its possible that Cortana also learned about it and concluded this as a secret solution. Get the flood there and fire just that one instead of all rings.
Yeah, she's talking about the new Installation 04
ad skip for ciggy but good? 6:13
Aren't the Spartan Ones, particularly Sergeant Johnson, immune?
all spartans never were inmune, they are just "a bit" harder to infect because their nervous system are modified.
Chief got human/forerunner DNA
Actually, Johnson was immune, however it was through a number of incidents that lead to this. One was the Project Orion, or Spartan 1 augmentations. They made it difficult for the Flood. The second had to do with a treatment for a type of radioactive exposure he had with Covenant plasma. I want to say it was their grenades, and I mean a lot of them, but he never finished the treatment. In one of the books, a Flood form tried to infect Johnson, but immediately retracted from him. And other forms around him upon this reaction never tried to infect him. Chief was made aware of Johnson's medical records and had the footage of Johnson's encounter with the Flood and how they rejected him. I know he destroyed the chip with the medical records fearing ONI would lock Johnson up and tear him apart to find the answers, so and he figured the footage would be more than sufficient as proof of the Flood and the dangers it posed.
I don't think Johnson had the cure, but I do think he might have something akin to what ancient humanity did with the genetic disease. Something that would have an adverse effect to the Flood that made him harder to infect and something that had a degrading effect to its own genetic coding. However, replicating this exact make up with each and every person would be nearly impossible or at least very insurmountable as the biology of one human to another is vastly different. So, getting it right for one person may not work on the next one, the next few thousand. The death toll to have this make up for humanity would be nearly extinction level.
@@danielbeck2739 what? no. stop making stuff up, johnson was never inmune, halsey stated he was just harder to infect, also you confused facts, jonhson never got radiation treatment caused by the grenades, what happened is that halsey made up a medical condition caused by plasma grenades, TO COVER THAT JOHNSON RESISTANCE TO FLOOD WAS CAUSED BY HIM BEING A SPARTAN, since spartans 1 are actually a secret no one should know about.
@@delawarevex4976 That's not what I recall, however if I'm mistaken then I apologize. Been years since I read the books, but I do remember certain details from them. Again, been years, so if you could at least tell me which book it was in because I know it is near the tail end of either the Flood or the one(s) that came right after Chief escaped the Halo ring itself. I would like to verify it myself as it appears you might know what I'm referring to.
Oh man a halo tv show explaining things like this would be epic, halo is a vast universe. It has the potential to be the next star wars if done right
I could be entirely wrong, but isnt the Reason Sgt. Johnson survived Alpha Halo is because of his Spartan 1 Augmentations? The Flood seemingly either wanted nothing to do with him or his skin was so thick they couldnt penetrate it with their tentacles. I always wondered why that wasnt studied more and then tried to be put to use in efforts to contain/eradicate the flood
I like how the flood kinda is most important thing in halo the rings and arcs were made for that threat yet modern halo we dont see many rings anymore....or flood but apparently there are "things worse then the food" as cortana would say
The only way the endless can be worse than the flood is if they are precursors.
@AxisChurchDevotee I concur although I think its unlikely because they precursors became the flood after being corrupted in thier dormant state for so long it could be that alien race from.outside the milky way as we know the flood are in other galaxies there is a case of an unknown alien ship crashed I forgot where but it was for sure not of the milky way
@@AxisChurchDevoteefrom the perspective of the forerunners.
Still don't see how they're worse than the flood when the harbinger is pretty much amenable and negotiable to allying with the Banished, to which I'm not even sure to why she even needed to over the humans.
@@Quetzalcoatlus100 Note her abilities are pretty insane. Constant teleport, powerful energy blast, potential time travel. She's basically a space wizard. Also remember that the primordial/gracemind controls the flood via neural physics so the endless could all do the same using their abilities to act as keyminds so the flood would immediately be in rr coordinator stage and given their space magic they'd be a deadly threat since you'd have the galaxy eating parasite lead by angry space wizards.
@@AxisChurchDevotee True regarding the abilities, pretty whack for sure but you'd have to assume the Harbinger species are actually okay with the flood idea despite the possible connection to them. It's far more likely the flood would encourage them into the fold using their grievances.
Again, the Harbinger doesn't really show much motivation side "my peoples be locked up because forerunners are dicks" and seems perfectly amenable albeit like a child throwing a tantrum, perfect for manipulation.
The dangerous aspect is more their potential abilities if absorbed by the flood.
Which if they evaded the halo array, then the flood can too if absorbed.
(Probably would've been more fleshed out if 343 actually finished halo infinites story)