my take is vids like this are fine so long as you arent JUST saying "im leaving..." but with extra words and instead are voicing the reasons you are leaving/ refuse to play for the forseeable future so that way than there is a understanding behind what you disliked out there in the world for people to see and talk about and maybe the devs to see and talk about and DO something about perhaps being the thing to try to bring you and people like you back to the game. if it aint that than why are you complaining ot the void and expecting anyone to respond unless your that outta the loop that no one would necessarily care enough to need a video ONLY saying your leaving your you just like the sound of your own voice.
i will say tho that 3600 hours may be rookie numbers to someone whos job is based off of playing the game but i for example have 1678 hours and have had the game since like 2018 and been playing off and on but still being a part of the community. on top of that tho i left because i played for long enough and did enough trials and played through all the dungeons enough times to realise the flaw plauging eso for me at least was that it was a fake MMORPG. flat out the game parades around acting like its one when in reality it actually plays as a open world story game with slight rpg and mmo components with this actually being the issue MOST 'MMORPGS' today have is they focus WAYYY too much on solo play for games that literally have Massivily Multiplayer Online and Role Playing Game as its literally fuckin name. like too much shit can be solo'd and invincible builds that force everyone to min max as MASTERS OF ALL TRADES, NOVICES IN NONE.... type classes that there is no class identity and no need to play with other people or really properly coordinate and even than, the times there is namely being for trials, you still have no choice to min max you build or get kicked meaning you get no proper MMORPG experiences anywhere outside of sweatfesting it as you cant just go around a town and find a good group balance of acutal class characters and have the good old MMORPG dungeon dive taking it slow to clear out hte challenging enemies nad moving forward towards a boss or loot or maybe something more thats deeper in the dungeon! honestly it was kinda sad after i put that many hours in just to realise that there was no chance that the game can ever beome a real MMORPG anyways...
Re: Why not do the surveys? If I was sick of the game and was going to quit, the last thing I would want to do would be to grind out 1000+ surveys taking up who knows how many hours of my time only to give it all away. I’d be looking to cut my losses, not to invest even more of my lifespan into the game before bailing. I’m still here playing and enjoying the game, but that video gave me some things to think about. I think I’ve made my last crown store purchase. I shouldn’t be rewarding ZOS for their nonsense.
The guy admits he spent over $8k in his time at ESO. I think this is him flushing his drugs down the toilet so he can go cold turkey and hopefully start a new life without backsliding to his old ways. Rather than laughing, I think we should congradulate him?
I think everyone here shares the sentiment of what he's saying (I guess he was lucky enough to leave before the block bug 🤣). The funny part is his serious tone. Comoon... It's just a game, of course if you treat it as a job, it's gonna dissapoint you at some point. In my case after around 2.5 k hours I just dilute eso, which was my only game for years, with other games and come back when my guild is doing something interesting. No need to delete anything.
yeah $8k on a casual MMO is crazy, there is no rated PvP. Unless he is very wealthy and I suspect the dude is like a drug addiction best to just quit as some people can casually have a drink or two and some after one sip fall into drinking a whole case. Gotta know yourself.
I have 5k+ hours in ESO abut haven’t touched the game in a little over 2 years because of the performance issues. The devs only push out new content to make casuals or new players fall into the same trap I did. I developed an unhealthy addiction to the game and had lots of fun but also lots of frustrating experiences. The dev team is however incompetent & never fix anything so I moved on.
2:10 "why bother making a video about leaving the game, just stfu and leave". Well cuz the man has a youtube channel and is explaining it to his subscribers instead of leaving them all hanging wondering wtf happened. How about this: "why bother watching a video about leaving the game, just stfu and watch something else".
A very good point. As a new player (me) I depend on the rewards from quests, dailies. But they are irrelevant in relation to the prizes. Problem: rewards don't scale with level, so motivation is lacking accordingly. And not everyone has 8 twinks to do the craft dailies. And the prices for jewellery are ridiculously high and not balanced.
I’ve played for a very long time, it’s best to sortve make your own fun in ESO, the quests are more or less the flavor of the main dish, so to speak. If you don’t have an imaginative streak, it’ll be difficult to get into some quest lines. For example, there was some quests in older maps that I did but in my mind there was a whole other more interesting story tied into said quest and my personal additions in my mind made it much more fun to do(Grahtwood, Greenshade, those sort of oldies the newer maps are a bit less dry with their funny) You haven’t lived until your role played a better dancing outside a wayshrine for gold
Also when you're a new player, you are in this "Honeymoon" phase. That phase makes it very easy to ignore the problems the game has. When that wears off and you have to make the critical choice to commit or leave, people will more likely leave this game because Monetizing lately has been targeting New Players for quick cash.
@@PinkWytchBytch ESO is a Themepark MMO so making your own fun is difficult at best. If you can have fun, great, but if not just find something else that is more fun.
Now imagine having to gold out gear every 3 months when they change the meta and nerf shit into the ground forcing you to swap to something new. No joke just the jewelry as an active raider is 8M+ a year easily assuming you don't have multiple chars you could be looking at tens of millions just to regear. That's before you factor in any time too.
I faded it out at the end because I'm limited to 3 character deletions 😂 but I do wanna clear up a couple points: Sunk cost fallacy is indeed one of the reasons I actively deleted and deconstructed everything. It ensures to myself that I'll never trick myself into coming back to a game that I know, after it improves for a short period of time, would go back to being a frustrating mess all over again. Now I know I won't go back because I'm not grinding all that shit again lmao. A fair number of people misconstrue the video's purpose. I didn't make it to somehow send a message to ZoS because I good and well know at this point that they don't care about me. I made it to share my experiences with the game to other players, share my thoughts, my problems and issues with the game and its direction and priorities, and what the conclusion I came to was. I'm not out to "stick it to ZoS" because there's little to no point. "Why didn't you just sell your account?" I could've, but I wanted to help out a friend who still does play the game instead. The video wasn't really made for personal attention, instead it was made to share the piled up frustrations of a community that, despite pumping so much passion into the game, were extremely minimally rewarded in return. It's literally the EA saying of "a sense of pride and accomplishment" since we basically just raid for clout.
Definitely, feel the same. I have barely logged on in months since U35. Thanks for the honest take and putting yourself out there for the toxic casuals/positivity mains. If this wasn’t a ZOS/ESO video, I’m sure you could just block them, if you installed an add-on 😊
I can get behind your video. I quit recently too and I feel better. I'm frustrated with alot of things about this game but more than anything I realized just how much time I let myself spend on ESO and I didn't like it. It's just too much and ZOS decisions are feeling more like an abusive partner
Very painful to watch and very, very sad. On the other hand exactly the same way I will choose when I finally end playing ESO after now almost 9 years. All the points you mentioned are so true. Good choice mate. You will find another game that appreciates your time, effort and hard work and for which you are more than a wallet.
That's grand. The other day in 2024, I made a charcter named Team Magma, like from pokemon, and it simply wasn't taken in basic spelling 🤷♀️ I didn't even know names could be taken until reading other people's comments about it. I understand why I've never run into it with characters named "electric lute solo" and "death means nothing" but I was surprised about Team Magma lol
8:52 I don't understand why players are always saying you have to buy from the Crown Store to get decent stuff. Just in terms of mounts, I have the Auroran Penumbra Wolf, the Legion Zero Charger, Mossheart Indrik, Pure-Snow Indrik, Nix-Ox Steed, Elinhir Camel, Aurelic Quasigriff and Dagonic Quasigriff, every single one was obtained with Seals of Endeavor, Crowns Gems (extracted from free Twitch crate drops) or were purchased with Event Tickets. None of these cool mounts were from the Crown Store and they didn't cost me a penny (I don't even have ESOplus!)
It is sad to see this. But the backlash zos faces now is due to the accumulation of resentment over the years. I feel more sad about the part of his life this (and any) player invested in this game waiting for better days. I think coming into this game and expecting anything beyond a casual mmo is setting yourself up for disappointment. Maybe its time for a dragon break and a move to a new ES multiplayer game that has learned from the mistakes of this. Or just F* ZoS as a studio and go play GW2 or FFXV which are having their peak (or smthing like it) now. Good for the guy, its as close to a clean break, burn the house, burn the bridges approach as you can get. I respect that. Lastly, yeah you can sell your account, but for peanuts, 50-100-200eu or $, barely a dent in the amount of money you have paid over the years. Even if you keep your account as a lurker some bs PR guy will still count you as one of the millions accounts that play ESO to attract new customers. Even if 70-80% of those accounts (if not more) are not really active. At least making this video raises a discussion.
I think the code is so broken now that's it's probably better to start with ESO2 on a new engine and for the next gen hardware. Given the shrinking PS population, it might be better to go purely PC (or PC + Xbox) so that bug fixing and quality control get narrowed down?
ZOS keep his money and he deleted everything from the server, saving the database storage space. I bet ZOS are happy how this worked out apart from the PR.
You know, i left for a lot of reasons. Most of them are contained in this video. I am never getting rid of all the stuff i obtained. Ive only completed vss..all the rest i couldn't wrap my head around. I truly do love the game.
Seriously. The guys video is dumb. I'm a day one player. I took an 18 month break after Summerset, and came back for a year and have not played in almost 12 months again. I would never delete my stuff. I mean his grievances are accurate, but to spend the time to decon everything on a game you are sick of? So much wasted time.
Yes, what message. I’m so intrigued. People are taking themselves too seriously, for them quitting at least 10 will start to play the game and if only 1/10 keep playing, they are replaced.
@@canisinumbra that would make this one of, if not, the largest MMO out there. Which is obviously not the case. So it’s much more likely that for every person that leaves 2-3 join and maybe just MAYBE 1 of them will stay long term.
@@Chorizo81 Every update we see hundreds of comments of people saying that they're quitting. This time we finally got a video proving these are not just empty words. Despite not being a youtuber his video got 30k views and had a major eso youtuber react to it. I would say a video about a guy removing his surveys was a pretty big deal and sparked another big discussion about the state of the game
I know one person that did the same thing in Trove after much more hours spent in game, but his obsession with the game was so strong that he came back after 2 weeks I think, in few months he had everything back, I have about 3600 hours in this game personally, most of the time was me actively farming new stuff that every update was adding, in past year every new update tried to push the end game further which is getting exhausting because fully maxing multiple classes is really hard now when you have to get everything for each class, personally I wouldn't do something like that, deleting everything after that many hours just hurts, I really value what I got in this game after all that hours and on his place I would just quit the game or play it sometimes
Bros got a point though. Personally I thought it was always just PvP that was ignored and getting shit on. But honestly the decisions ZOS makes, there really is no hope for the game.
The way I keep MMOs fresh, is I take a long hiatus then when I come back there's enough content to keep me satisfied for a while and right when I get back up to top tier I then take another hiatus and thus the cycle continues. Lol, they're just games that are meant to be enjoyed. My only gripe is I miss out on some cool styles and outfits, I'm a style junkie in games lol
Yeah the coin related rewards for this game are pretty bad even with plunder 😂; i think any non crag trial should reward more plunder than it does cause for most folks it will take a while and use a lot of resources
As someone whos finally getting all their trifectas done recently, the urge to quit has never been higher. Every patch they break something and dont seem to care how much time it takes to fix it. The left over community is the toxic portion of community
LOL Ive put 3270 hours into the game and it will be a year at Christmas that Ive been playing and yes I have no Life LOL. But I do agree with him on a lot of points like Im by no means a top tier player and I worked hard to get better and then update 35 came out and screwed me and in my opinion made it worse and I had to work even harder, which really did take the fun out of the game. Also its bad enough that all the best stuff is behind a paywall but what makes it worse is that most of the best stuff is locked behind their Gem system where you have to spend a fortune on crates to get enough for the top tier stuff.
Update 35 caused me to throw in the towel after 6,000 hours. It's sad to see such a beautiful virtual universe fall into such ruin. So many memories. Gone. But despite it all, I'm better off having finally closed the book.
I think I get where he's coming from about affording potions and mats for raiding. The problem is there is virtually no other way to afford it without becoming invested in the trader game. There is a path, but it takes a hell of a lot of time, and constant regular engagement. You need to level crafters, farm nodes, find an entry level trade guild and sell for cheap, earn enough to get into one with a better trader location, possibly spend hours flipping, all the research required to understand the economy and using TTC/MM effectively, and then you can start spending more time raiding than all of the above.
This is way to sad to watch. I understand though what the reasons are for doing this... but 3600 hours??? dude I have over 11k hours... I cant delete characters.. too many good memories with friends and personal stuff. I hope ESO/ZOS shapes up to keep this from happening.
I mean you could just like he did lol, not like you have to or anything, but you bring the point of where you hope zos will fix it, I mean they could but what have the past 3 years shown lol
Potion for new player are pretty expensive. Not unaffordable but you need to sell a lot of good think you would keep for yourself to be able to sustain the potion cost.
One thing I think the devs, and all of the u35 apologists, don't understand is that they're is a huge difference between power given and power earned. Power creep because of exploits, etc do suck and make the game less fun. That's power given. Power creep because of leveling, grinding, and just getting better at playing the game is fun. That's power earned. Most people would agree that the current level of power creep needed to be addressed. The problem is that devs tried to address this by nerfing power earned. Then when everyone complained, they tried to rectify the situation by giving more power.
it's absolutely true, new players cannot afford potions. Money making methods in this game, outside of merching on traders, are incredibly brain dead and grindy. There is no interactive fun way to bridge the gap in gold.
TBH: now I want to do one of these videos to my PVP characters that are just sitting on the server, dust all over them. 9,000 hours on steam. I bought every single gold item every weekend at the pvp vendor ( I always had extra to spend ). Bought every single house gold could buy. I bought MULTIPLE houses from crown crate conversions ( gold converted from people who spent real life money ). I had hundreds of Wax, the Gold cloth material as I had an insane bear farm. I called it the Bang Bear farm. Some here might know me from it. I was the guy who just stampede circled for hours in-between pvp encounters. The Sanquine Nobel house alone was a massive purchase. Isn't selling an account illegal? I can calculate at least over 100-150 mil or more in game gold in materials. Would be fun to just give that away. Been really hoping for the game to come back to life. Elden Ring PVP has just been too damn good, just not as social ( in-game )
I did half of this and regretted it. Gave away everything I could so I would be swayed from coming back. Millions and millions of gold given away to people I had never talked to. Aaaand I was back a few weeks later lol.
As a veteran myself who doesn't play much eso anymore other than raiding once a week and managing our guild hall. Potions are really expensive. I don't sell much through guild traders, I don't like doing the dailies because it's not only boring but also time consuming. In the past I've gotten my potions from PvP (Alliance Pots), but it's been a while since I've done PvP for obvious reasons. I'm currently burning my gold and ap savings. Either that or I use Trash Potions and tweak my build to still get the important buffs. And golding out sets is outside my reach anymore most of the time. Of course it wouldn't be that hard to get potions or upgrade materials if you play regularly, but right now I just don't enjoy Eso enough and prefer playing other games. Tl;dr If you are only raiding potions and upgrade materials are ridiculously expensive.
I've always thought something like this was a little dramatic. I chuckle a little when I see things like this. Don't get me wrong, I understand why people do it. It's probably very cathartic for some people. But when I quit WoW, I just turned if off, cancelled my sub and that was it. I could login today and my boys would still be there (gear probably gone from someone pirating my character), but I don't because I just don't want to play. I feel a lot of the complaints going on about ESO these days. And yes, the rewards system is total crap. For some reason that didn't really hit until this year. I don't know why. I think it's because one of my friends that I game with, who is not a pay-to-play and just logs in to game with me, wanted a polar bear mount for his Nord and was like, "so the only way to get a bear at all is to buy it?" And that's when it really set in that, okay....maybe a variant, like the polar bear or that raccoon-style bear is in the crown store (but even that's pushing it), but why can't we even get a brown bear as a reward in-game? It seems like every MMO has their stages. After WotLK, WoW took a huge dive after Cataclysm came out. I don't know, I feel like ESO will weather this and there will be a proverbial changing of the guard as old players leave and new ones come in.
I saw this video... there's hot rage quit, where you destroy your console/PC/panel... and then there's cold fury rage quit, which this video shows how that's done
I'm doing the same atm. Been selling my furniture from 3 full houses about a week now, as well my craft bag filled with mats. I'm giving some of the profits for the social guild I was staying, and then just gonna give the gold for some random low level player I see. (10.8 mil atm and I still have shit loads to sell). :D My breaking point was the hecking new teleportation animation thing. it is exactly the same as the before just different colour, but they want 100 gems for that. So many bugs, inflation out of hand, PvP always forgotten, no real good ways to earn gold besides focusing on selling, farming and flipping (as a PvP player that was not in my interests), but they still religiously roll them damn crates to milk more money out of us. I have already paid for the game, all dlc all chapters, giving them money every damn month from subbing for years, and then they have the gall to ask 100 gems for that damn different colour animation. The audacity. it is not that I want it, it is their attitude. Heck this game, the devs thinking us as a joke.
I quit due to update 35 also, but, have held onto my account in hopes that something miraculous happens, and it turns around somehow to be the beautiful game it once was. If it comes right, then I jump back on, if it's worth playing, I may resub, then the devs will see what draws back myself and potentially more of the community based on good decisions.
This is pointless. He does not need to re-grind anything. Since the sticker book you can easily re-create all the equipment you have already picked up. Seeing as he has all of the achievements he does his sticker book I’m sure is full of all of the sets you already need.
I don't agree with quiting the game because you love it. It's actualy smart. I'd rather stop playing and leave with good memories from the game rather than quitiing being tired of the state of it.
I have more hours than this in FF and I couldn't imagine deleting everything. I have way less in ESO and still couldn't think about doing this. My stuff will get deleted when the servers go down forever. That's it lol
This would be easier to watch if you matched your mic volume level with that of the dude's video, or even came close. It's like how espn used to be, with murmuring games and super loud commercials you could hear from the kitchen and/or bathroom (which was probably the intent).
Livewire is a superb set for 'fake tanking' at breakneck speeds in normal dungeons when you pull several encounters together to get through the RND fast. There are hundreds of players who would not even need to do this if transmutes had other reliable sources
I had over 307 days on playstation when I quit. That was launch till cloudrest. Decided to start on PC a year ago. Game always has its broke crap. Now I bought a ps5 and I might go back and visit.
The part of this that makes me sad is he didn’t sell his account. As a former player who locked myself out of an end game account rather than selling it my only regret is not making money off of my hours of time spent in game. I love my time spent in eso and am also glad that I have left.
Exactly! Im a ps4 transfer who refuses to re do all that stuff so buying an account was the only way i would play on pc. So sad thst he decided to do that instead of selling the account.
I think, the way I would stop playing would be by gradually playing less, not logging in regularly anymore, and then at some point realizing that I should cancel ESO+. That is how it went with other games. I would either want to keep everything intact to be able to come back and play with the people I know, or there would be nobody left to give my stuff to. Even if I would give some things away, I would make sure that I could still have an easy return if I ever wanted. Destroying everything, because you might be tempted to come back, makes no sense to me. If you are tempted to come back, there is not shame in playing again. If they make changes that address your grievances with the game or put out content you are interested in, there is no reason to not give it a shot. Don't take the flaws and mistakes of ZOS personally. They certainly don't take you leaving personally.
What would it take to turn ESO's reputation around? Would it be possible, even if ZOS fixed all these problems? I still love the game and I want to keep playing, but at this point I'm also hesitant to pay for the subscription with all the bugs and cash grabs... and I'm one of the casual players the company has been trying to cater to. Is it feasible to hope that they'll change enough for people to start coming back again?
I think it’s very admirable. I wish I had the strength to do this with some MMOs, bc i have one that i keep subscribing to but can’t really play bc I miss the game but it has a lot of bad memories attached.
It's important to remember that as fun as games like ESO, ffxiv, wow, Warframe, BDO, RuneScape, etc etc are, they are kind of just digital addictions. And they are fucking appealing. This was like watching someone make the decision to finally stop drugs or alcohol after years of addiction. I recently stopped as well and I do miss it but I feel better. The most appealing games to me have been the time sink never ending style games like I listed above. I spent hundreds of hours in ESO, ffxiv, wow, Warframe and others. I had alot of fun but part of me regrets it. Single player games early on left a bad taste for me because I was sad when it ended. That was it, it was done. Then wow hit and there was an end to the story, but not the game but then it was a live service so expansions. These games are MADE to be addictive. Maybe they weren't at first with osrs and vanilla wow, but then corps figured out how easy it is to manipulate people to spend obcene hours and program then to log in every single day to do chores. Watching my friend grind chores on lost ark every day is like watching someone drink themselves to death. They just can't stop. Im not shitting on people who like these games, but it's important to realize how thin the line is between fun gaming experience and addiction
Bro ppl can do dailys without being addicted xD if it was too much for u then its good u stopped but if you ever had something to do with drugs ud realize theres a fckn huge difference
How is FF14 a addiction Ive played for 10 years and not once have I felt "man I did to delete this game" or "man I got to keep playing this game" matter of fact I stopped playing for a year when stormblood came out and came back to it for the hype of shadowbringers
He didn't show himself deleting all his characters because ESO has a hard limit on deleting characters. can't delete more than 3 per day. Probably to try to get people that want to do something like this to reconsider and to prevent hacking trolls from deleting a whole account's worth of characters when they hack someone.
Of all things that we can complain about .... I don't get the whole "it's to many sets and to much farm"-argument like -that is the game. Without grind there can be no sense of accomplishment . Imagine eso without farming, it would be hollow.
I did something like this back when Blackwood launched. I deleted my launch character - the only character I had - which had over 40K achievement points, rank 47 PVP, and a lot of hours invested over seven years at that point. The game had grown stale and I wanted to free up my ESO time to do other things. Ironically if I had waited a few patches I could have saved most of those achievements and come back. But I would have to redo the PVP stuff, which isn’t very appealing. Of course, deletion is the ultimate fate of every MMO character, whether voluntary or not, when the game eventually goes offline.
Did something like this when I quit black desert. Spam enhanced all of my gear, lost most of it, deleted my most used characters. (It takes time to delete them). Never going back. Also he only showed 3 character deletes because you only get 3 character deletes at a time (they refresh at 1 per day) I've personally left the game, wasn't a massively great gamer but I had some hardmodes done. Haven't deleted anything or given things away but I can't stomach coming back right now
I think he DOES want to make a statement, if only unconsciously. Why else make a video of him destroying stuff where he doesn't even talk the whole time. Or how could you interpret 6min of silent deconstructing? Also, funny how his advice is to stay away from the game and then give away all his stuff. Thats like saying: "I quit smoking because I feel like it's not good for my health. Here, you can have all my left over cigarettes." That's contradictory (or evil). Why support something you think is generally bad enough to "urge" (new) players to stay away?
i am meeting ppl who left playing on the playstation because ppl leaving. they now on pc. i so hope zos wakes up and saves this game before i run in a empty world. i stopped paying and buying stuff, but still play. i play since beta, and hope it gets great again.
I am one of them..I’m 1300 cp on ps5 I play eu..I started again on pc because console players have it so much worse than pc..The lag is so bad most of the time in pvp it put me off I have run all vet content have all trial sets legendary and 5 toons when I logged on ps5 I was board So I made the switch I’m level 50 now on pc I’m not taking this seriously but more of a beta to see what comes to consoles on a later date when updates and changes come because Pc get things a lot sooner..I luv just been running round doing the quests and getting all the lore add ons is a game changer
hope u have fun on pc. its still a big world with enough folk on pc, but what i mend was that it used to have more ppl around and what i do not hope is to run on pc in a empty world. for i lost enough friends who stopped because of bugs and such, and what i,ve heard of playstation isnt a good sign i thought for pc future. excuse i gave a wrong impression. i never played it on ps, only on pc. but what u tell me that truly sucks big time. still, im glad u joined pc. hope we meet in a guild and u stay.
@@MalcomMalediction Hey I prefer the Asmongold approach I guess? Not hating or anything it's just nice to see people giving their opinions which we need more off. It's better than watching some other styles of reaction because at least the person reacting HAS the knowledge
Dont get me wrong ,I love this game. I've played every day and many nights as well for the last 4 years. but at the end of the day it is just a game . Theres no need to chuck your teddy bear out of the pram and be such a drama queen about it .
Painful to watch all of that. There are plenty of complaints to be made about the game, but I think we've seen that it's in flux and has nearly endless potential. Homeboy had enough, and that's sad, but it was a *little bit* dramatic to announce your departure like this.
My ~15,000 hours played ("/played" across all 16 characters added together) ESO account (started in 2014, complete with Imgakin Monkey "beta pet") had sat idle for just short of 2 years until I logged in to check it out again this past Monday out of morbid curiosity. At the time I left ESO, I enjoyed success in both PvE and PvP. I had all of the PvE content on farm, played with most of the best players PC-NA had to offer up to then, and had every "meaningful achievement" (including in PvP such as Cyrodiil Emperor before it was a simple matter of just "Emp Trading" in a dead campaign). Now, I know that's not the same thing as outright deleting the account. But, I do agree with most of his assessment of the development of the game over time. I guess I just went away more quietly than he did. LOL
This is a way to almost guarantee that you will not return. I am tempted to do this as well, just because they are really fucking up the game. I stopped playing just before update 35 and just started back. It is so much worse now. If something does not change, this is a likely outcome for many.
I took a break after update 36, this is my second long break. I don't think I'll be coming back honestly, I've been playing some bdo lately, until aoc releases.
ESO is just the tip of the iceberg. This is happening in a lot of MMOs. Destiny 2 is having the same problem. An influx of lazy new gamers that think the best weapons and gear are unattainable, so they get together and cry about certain weapons and gear (Divinity in D2, Maelstrom weapons in ESO) until said weapon gets nerfed or changed. Sounds like the same bunch crying about how they can’t afford rent or a house in real life. What a time to be alive.
I wish younger gamers would understand us older gamers and the struggle we had. This dude complained about crashes and the game being unplayable. Here I am in the 1980s playing final fantasy 1 all summer for 1000 hours only to come home and my saved information was corrupted and everything was gone. No numbers to call no updates to be had. Just take your loss and start a new game, only for it to happen over and over again. The complaints I see now are ridiculous. I’m over the moon just fishing in ESO. The game is wonderful and beyond anything I personally could have imagined in my lifetime. All you youngins just don’t know what you have.
I have almost everything I want in eso and I’m a housing dps pve farming nerd and I don’t spend money on anything except new chapters. Bought it all in game from crown sellers with in game gold.
My file is roughly the same as his, roughly, I love eso ....I've run 5 trials in 3 years they suk .I'd play a trial or 2 every day if u could que like a dungeon ?
The potions part I disagree on, hell its really easy to level Alchemy and make your own potions for free, you just gotta sometimes gather the mats, I leveled Alchemy for my raid potions in like 15 mins tops, but the upgrade materials I heavily agree with, 600 hours in and I had golded out everything but my jewelry and was nowhere near close enough to afford golding out my jewelry
God, just watching him have to trade 5-6 things at a time (i forget how many it is) is reason enough to leave the game. lol They do everything 1/2 wrong. Even the extra item slot wheel they did wrong. Just give us X amount of extra slots to scroll through, don't lock particular wheels/slots to particular types of items. The dev's are just so bad.
I’ve been playing this game for 8 years n complete most of what the game have to offer. From questing to vet dungeons n trials. And also get most of the skins from all these dungeon n trials and I can admit you can get really burnt out when the keep changing the meta every 3 month. The game need to offer more rewards when it comes to trials. Update 35 let every dam class play the exact same. If ur a casual gamer none of what am saying applies to u because u guys just play the game how u want which is total fine but people have different goals in every game and the dev need to respect that.
Haven't played in months and can't find the fridge to login again. Maybe something will happen in the future to pique my interest but as of right now there isn't thing about the game that feels like it's worth investing more time in it. Sad tbh.
yeah I was gonna say. I never had an issue getting pots in ESO. Mostly because I either farmed the mats myself and crafted them or I just bought them with my extra gold. Also you could just not use pots outside of trials and vets that's what I did. Same goes for raid food
Yeah iv been logging in sometimes to dismantle gear and iv been giving my mats away to friends who still play. I was an avid pve/pvper and I loved the game since its launch but after update 35 and now the block bug along with everything else from 36 I just dont trust them to fix the game or make it better.
This is like a partner who doesn’t just leave you but burns all your stuff, keys your car and talks shit about you on social media. Don’t go away mad. Just go away.
I am thinking this is the same guy that does this in many games, he attains all and then is not having fun anymore! Many play so much in the years past they are obsessed, and then when they get to that " whale" level, everything's so suddenly easy for them, they get bored. BAh! It's just a rage quit and it's been happening for years, he just went to extremes by deleting and documenting it all for everyone to see. What's sad to me is how influencing and damaging it is. I would NEVER base my opinion of in game experience off of just one other person's experience or just raiding in general. All MMOs have unique issues, growing pains and struggles, there is no way to please all. Hopefully ESO can survive " the beatings will continue until moral improves"....phase.
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my take is vids like this are fine so long as you arent JUST saying "im leaving..." but with extra words and instead are voicing the reasons you are leaving/ refuse to play for the forseeable future so that way than there is a understanding behind what you disliked out there in the world for people to see and talk about and maybe the devs to see and talk about and DO something about perhaps being the thing to try to bring you and people like you back to the game. if it aint that than why are you complaining ot the void and expecting anyone to respond unless your that outta the loop that no one would necessarily care enough to need a video ONLY saying your leaving your you just like the sound of your own voice.
i will say tho that 3600 hours may be rookie numbers to someone whos job is based off of playing the game but i for example have 1678 hours and have had the game since like 2018 and been playing off and on but still being a part of the community.
on top of that tho i left because i played for long enough and did enough trials and played through all the dungeons enough times to realise the flaw plauging eso for me at least was that it was a fake MMORPG. flat out the game parades around acting like its one when in reality it actually plays as a open world story game with slight rpg and mmo components with this actually being the issue MOST 'MMORPGS' today have is they focus WAYYY too much on solo play for games that literally have Massivily Multiplayer Online and Role Playing Game as its literally fuckin name. like too much shit can be solo'd and invincible builds that force everyone to min max as MASTERS OF ALL TRADES, NOVICES IN NONE.... type classes that there is no class identity and no need to play with other people or really properly coordinate and even than, the times there is namely being for trials, you still have no choice to min max you build or get kicked meaning you get no proper MMORPG experiences anywhere outside of sweatfesting it as you cant just go around a town and find a good group balance of acutal class characters and have the good old MMORPG dungeon dive taking it slow to clear out hte challenging enemies nad moving forward towards a boss or loot or maybe something more thats deeper in the dungeon! honestly it was kinda sad after i put that many hours in just to realise that there was no chance that the game can ever beome a real MMORPG anyways...
do it just do it nefas leave like us !!!
Re: Why not do the surveys?
If I was sick of the game and was going to quit, the last thing I would want to do would be to grind out 1000+ surveys taking up who knows how many hours of my time only to give it all away.
I’d be looking to cut my losses, not to invest even more of my lifespan into the game before bailing.
I’m still here playing and enjoying the game, but that video gave me some things to think about.
I think I’ve made my last crown store purchase. I shouldn’t be rewarding ZOS for their nonsense.
I would have done the surveys for the mats.
You cant just quit game without doing surveys. Thats just not how world works. 🤣🤣🤣
i have 10k surveys... who has time for that?? (did some for the leads and once for 1 missing tempering alloy, thats it.. but still collecting idk why)
I mean, you are going through all the trouble of deconning which is the same logic as surveys.
@@cr4479 No it aint. With the amount of surveys I had, would take about 20 hours of harvesting, when deconning all my gear took about 3 minutes.
The guy admits he spent over $8k in his time at ESO. I think this is him flushing his drugs down the toilet so he can go cold turkey and hopefully start a new life without backsliding to his old ways. Rather than laughing, I think we should congradulate him?
I think everyone here shares the sentiment of what he's saying (I guess he was lucky enough to leave before the block bug 🤣). The funny part is his serious tone. Comoon... It's just a game, of course if you treat it as a job, it's gonna dissapoint you at some point. In my case after around 2.5 k hours I just dilute eso, which was my only game for years, with other games and come back when my guild is doing something interesting. No need to delete anything.
Omg that's alot of time and money. Oof
@@The_Gravemind yeah yeah also reading some lore books and admiring beautiful vistas...stfu
This is why I'll never call myself a gamer. Too much game in real life 🤣
yeah $8k on a casual MMO is crazy, there is no rated PvP. Unless he is very wealthy and I suspect the dude is like a drug addiction best to just quit as some people can casually have a drink or two and some after one sip fall into drinking a whole case. Gotta know yourself.
I have 5k+ hours in ESO abut haven’t touched the game in a little over 2 years because of the performance issues.
The devs only push out new content to make casuals or new players fall into the same trap I did. I developed an unhealthy addiction to the game and had lots of fun but also lots of frustrating experiences. The dev team is however incompetent & never fix anything so I moved on.
2:10 "why bother making a video about leaving the game, just stfu and leave". Well cuz the man has a youtube channel and is explaining it to his subscribers instead of leaving them all hanging wondering wtf happened. How about this: "why bother watching a video about leaving the game, just stfu and watch something else".
A very good point. As a new player (me) I depend on the rewards from quests, dailies. But they are irrelevant in relation to the prizes. Problem: rewards don't scale with level, so motivation is lacking accordingly. And not everyone has 8 twinks to do the craft dailies. And the prices for jewellery are ridiculously high and not balanced.
I’ve played for a very long time, it’s best to sortve make your own fun in ESO, the quests are more or less the flavor of the main dish, so to speak. If you don’t have an imaginative streak, it’ll be difficult to get into some quest lines. For example, there was some quests in older maps that I did but in my mind there was a whole other more interesting story tied into said quest and my personal additions in my mind made it much more fun to do(Grahtwood, Greenshade, those sort of oldies the newer maps are a bit less dry with their funny) You haven’t lived until your role played a better dancing outside a wayshrine for gold
Also when you're a new player, you are in this "Honeymoon" phase. That phase makes it very easy to ignore the problems the game has. When that wears off and you have to make the critical choice to commit or leave, people will more likely leave this game because Monetizing lately has been targeting New Players for quick cash.
@@PinkWytchBytch ESO is a Themepark MMO so making your own fun is difficult at best. If you can have fun, great, but if not just find something else that is more fun.
Now imagine having to gold out gear every 3 months when they change the meta and nerf shit into the ground forcing you to swap to something new. No joke just the jewelry as an active raider is 8M+ a year easily assuming you don't have multiple chars you could be looking at tens of millions just to regear. That's before you factor in any time too.
@@yellowboat825 You don't _have_ to use gold gear. That's a self inflicted burden
I faded it out at the end because I'm limited to 3 character deletions 😂 but I do wanna clear up a couple points:
Sunk cost fallacy is indeed one of the reasons I actively deleted and deconstructed everything. It ensures to myself that I'll never trick myself into coming back to a game that I know, after it improves for a short period of time, would go back to being a frustrating mess all over again. Now I know I won't go back because I'm not grinding all that shit again lmao.
A fair number of people misconstrue the video's purpose. I didn't make it to somehow send a message to ZoS because I good and well know at this point that they don't care about me. I made it to share my experiences with the game to other players, share my thoughts, my problems and issues with the game and its direction and priorities, and what the conclusion I came to was. I'm not out to "stick it to ZoS" because there's little to no point.
"Why didn't you just sell your account?" I could've, but I wanted to help out a friend who still does play the game instead.
The video wasn't really made for personal attention, instead it was made to share the piled up frustrations of a community that, despite pumping so much passion into the game, were extremely minimally rewarded in return. It's literally the EA saying of "a sense of pride and accomplishment" since we basically just raid for clout.
Good video. Based.
Definitely, feel the same. I have barely logged on in months since U35. Thanks for the honest take and putting yourself out there for the toxic casuals/positivity mains. If this wasn’t a ZOS/ESO video, I’m sure you could just block them, if you installed an add-on 😊
I can get behind your video. I quit recently too and I feel better. I'm frustrated with alot of things about this game but more than anything I realized just how much time I let myself spend on ESO and I didn't like it.
It's just too much and ZOS decisions are feeling more like an abusive partner
Very painful to watch and very, very sad. On the other hand exactly the same way I will choose when I finally end playing ESO after now almost 9 years. All the points you mentioned are so true. Good choice mate. You will find another game that appreciates your time, effort and hard work and for which you are more than a wallet.
I quit eso for new world and have been enjoying my time there.
Just to be toxic, I'll never delete my main to ensure nobody else can ever take the name "Bowser" in ESO
That's grand. The other day in 2024, I made a charcter named Team Magma, like from pokemon, and it simply wasn't taken in basic spelling 🤷♀️ I didn't even know names could be taken until reading other people's comments about it. I understand why I've never run into it with characters named "electric lute solo" and "death means nothing" but I was surprised about Team Magma lol
His points were absolutely 100% valid I quit for the same exacts reasons, after ending that toxic relationship I have never feel so good in my live
vocês são muito bobos, nunca vão ser felizes com nada na vida
8:52 I don't understand why players are always saying you have to buy from the Crown Store to get decent stuff. Just in terms of mounts, I have the Auroran Penumbra Wolf, the Legion Zero Charger, Mossheart Indrik, Pure-Snow Indrik, Nix-Ox Steed, Elinhir Camel, Aurelic Quasigriff and Dagonic Quasigriff, every single one was obtained with Seals of Endeavor, Crowns Gems (extracted from free Twitch crate drops) or were purchased with Event Tickets. None of these cool mounts were from the Crown Store and they didn't cost me a penny (I don't even have ESOplus!)
Because only Crown store items gives exclusive items when rarely when you can get these in game😅
That bow at the end by the Clockwork robot when he was about to delete the characters was crazy 😭😭
didnt even clock that. my heart
I know, that was an oof moment.
It is sad to see this. But the backlash zos faces now is due to the accumulation of resentment over the years. I feel more sad about the part of his life this (and any) player invested in this game waiting for better days. I think coming into this game and expecting anything beyond a casual mmo is setting yourself up for disappointment. Maybe its time for a dragon break and a move to a new ES multiplayer game that has learned from the mistakes of this. Or just F* ZoS as a studio and go play GW2 or FFXV which are having their peak (or smthing like it) now.
Good for the guy, its as close to a clean break, burn the house, burn the bridges approach as you can get. I respect that. Lastly, yeah you can sell your account, but for peanuts, 50-100-200eu or $, barely a dent in the amount of money you have paid over the years. Even if you keep your account as a lurker some bs PR guy will still count you as one of the millions accounts that play ESO to attract new customers. Even if 70-80% of those accounts (if not more) are not really active. At least making this video raises a discussion.
I think the code is so broken now that's it's probably better to start with ESO2 on a new engine and for the next gen hardware. Given the shrinking PS population, it might be better to go purely PC (or PC + Xbox) so that bug fixing and quality control get narrowed down?
ZOS keep his money and he deleted everything from the server, saving the database storage space. I bet ZOS are happy how this worked out apart from the PR.
@@samuraichicken2315 Sounds like a good idea to make a sequel or something similar than deal with this spaghetti code of a mess.
@@sacredpower7530 Not an idea but probably a necessity: can you imagine the game still runing after another year or two of adding even more content?
Wow ZOS took your feedback seriously..... under this vid was an ad for "NEW crown crates! BUY CROWNS NOW"
Screenshotted it 😂
lol dammmm Zos has no shame ahahah
I stopped playing for three years came back recently and found all the things that I quit for were gone
I'm glad I didn't do what he did
You know, i left for a lot of reasons. Most of them are contained in this video. I am never getting rid of all the stuff i obtained. Ive only completed vss..all the rest i couldn't wrap my head around. I truly do love the game.
Seriously. The guys video is dumb. I'm a day one player. I took an 18 month break after Summerset, and came back for a year and have not played in almost 12 months again. I would never delete my stuff. I mean his grievances are accurate, but to spend the time to decon everything on a game you are sick of? So much wasted time.
@@timothyhartz6255 completely agree, there will be a time ill return. Just not feeling the grind as of late
What’s so hard about the rest of the trials lol
@@eirho nothing, just cant follow mechanics very well.
we need people like this guy for ZOS to notice how dogshit their game has become. I respect what he's done with this video
Pvp has been complete shit for years yet I keep coming back like an obedient little slave
Exactly me too, I pvp every night for hours.. addicting
It's not about the money, It's about sending a message
Powerful message. I'm sure devs can't sleep after this scathing video. How will eso ever recover after a guy destroyed his surveys? haha
Yes, what message. I’m so intrigued. People are taking themselves too seriously, for them quitting at least 10 will start to play the game and if only 1/10 keep playing, they are replaced.
@@canisinumbra that would make this one of, if not, the largest MMO out there. Which is obviously not the case. So it’s much more likely that for every person that leaves 2-3 join and maybe just MAYBE 1 of them will stay long term.
@Ivan Edwards And that makes zero difference for them: so there is no „message“.
@@Chorizo81 Every update we see hundreds of comments of people saying that they're quitting. This time we finally got a video proving these are not just empty words. Despite not being a youtuber his video got 30k views and had a major eso youtuber react to it. I would say a video about a guy removing his surveys was a pretty big deal and sparked another big discussion about the state of the game
I know one person that did the same thing in Trove after much more hours spent in game, but his obsession with the game was so strong that he came back after 2 weeks I think, in few months he had everything back, I have about 3600 hours in this game personally, most of the time was me actively farming new stuff that every update was adding, in past year every new update tried to push the end game further which is getting exhausting because fully maxing multiple classes is really hard now when you have to get everything for each class, personally I wouldn't do something like that, deleting everything after that many hours just hurts, I really value what I got in this game after all that hours and on his place I would just quit the game or play it sometimes
Bros got a point though. Personally I thought it was always just PvP that was ignored and getting shit on. But honestly the decisions ZOS makes, there really is no hope for the game.
The way I keep MMOs fresh, is I take a long hiatus then when I come back there's enough content to keep me satisfied for a while and right when I get back up to top tier I then take another hiatus and thus the cycle continues. Lol, they're just games that are meant to be enjoyed. My only gripe is I miss out on some cool styles and outfits, I'm a style junkie in games lol
True, raiding is a net negative in terms of RES gain vs res lost. Wish they would make useful mat drops so at least you are on gain or break even.
Yeah the coin related rewards for this game are pretty bad even with plunder 😂; i think any non crag trial should reward more plunder than it does cause for most folks it will take a while and use a lot of resources
As someone whos finally getting all their trifectas done recently, the urge to quit has never been higher. Every patch they break something and dont seem to care how much time it takes to fix it. The left over community is the toxic portion of community
LOL Ive put 3270 hours into the game and it will be a year at Christmas that Ive been playing and yes I have no Life LOL. But I do agree with him on a lot of points like Im by no means a top tier player and I worked hard to get better and then update 35 came out and screwed me and in my opinion made it worse and I had to work even harder, which really did take the fun out of the game. Also its bad enough that all the best stuff is behind a paywall but what makes it worse is that most of the best stuff is locked behind their Gem system where you have to spend a fortune on crates to get enough for the top tier stuff.
Update 35 caused me to throw in the towel after 6,000 hours. It's sad to see such a beautiful virtual universe fall into such ruin. So many memories. Gone. But despite it all, I'm better off having finally closed the book.
Same.
Awwwwwe you poor bb
I think I get where he's coming from about affording potions and mats for raiding. The problem is there is virtually no other way to afford it without becoming invested in the trader game. There is a path, but it takes a hell of a lot of time, and constant regular engagement. You need to level crafters, farm nodes, find an entry level trade guild and sell for cheap, earn enough to get into one with a better trader location, possibly spend hours flipping, all the research required to understand the economy and using TTC/MM effectively, and then you can start spending more time raiding than all of the above.
That was like an alcohol addicted person pours all of his stash on the ground, throws away all the bottles and goes to sober life
This is way to sad to watch. I understand though what the reasons are for doing this... but 3600 hours??? dude I have over 11k hours... I cant delete characters.. too many good memories with friends and personal stuff. I hope ESO/ZOS shapes up to keep this from happening.
I mean you could just like he did lol, not like you have to or anything, but you bring the point of where you hope zos will fix it, I mean they could but what have the past 3 years shown lol
Potion for new player are pretty expensive. Not unaffordable but you need to sell a lot of good think you would keep for yourself to be able to sustain the potion cost.
I don't think I even quickslotted a potion until I was like CP 500. I only ever used them in battlegrounds anyway
Or just farm it
If u join a good guild potions, or anything should be easy peezy for non vet players to get. Most players are stacked.
This guy probably doesn't have a heal slotted
@@xMADxMIKEx who needs heals?!
One thing I think the devs, and all of the u35 apologists, don't understand is that they're is a huge difference between power given and power earned.
Power creep because of exploits, etc do suck and make the game less fun. That's power given.
Power creep because of leveling, grinding, and just getting better at playing the game is fun. That's power earned.
Most people would agree that the current level of power creep needed to be addressed. The problem is that devs tried to address this by nerfing power earned. Then when everyone complained, they tried to rectify the situation by giving more power.
it's absolutely true, new players cannot afford potions. Money making methods in this game, outside of merching on traders, are incredibly brain dead and grindy. There is no interactive fun way to bridge the gap in gold.
TBH: now I want to do one of these videos to my PVP characters that are just sitting on the server, dust all over them. 9,000 hours on steam. I bought every single gold item every weekend at the pvp vendor ( I always had extra to spend ).
Bought every single house gold could buy. I bought MULTIPLE houses from crown crate conversions ( gold converted from people who spent real life money ).
I had hundreds of Wax, the Gold cloth material as I had an insane bear farm. I called it the Bang Bear farm. Some here might know me from it. I was the guy who just stampede circled for hours in-between pvp encounters. The Sanquine Nobel house alone was a massive purchase. Isn't selling an account illegal?
I can calculate at least over 100-150 mil or more in game gold in materials.
Would be fun to just give that away.
Been really hoping for the game to come back to life.
Elden Ring PVP has just been too damn good, just not as social ( in-game )
The stress on your face when you saw him deconing everything 😂😂😂
I did half of this and regretted it. Gave away everything I could so I would be swayed from coming back. Millions and millions of gold given away to people I had never talked to. Aaaand I was back a few weeks later lol.
Addiction
Eh it depends on who your speaking of some people don’t play often like that but no game is perfect
As a veteran myself who doesn't play much eso anymore other than raiding once a week and managing our guild hall. Potions are really expensive. I don't sell much through guild traders, I don't like doing the dailies because it's not only boring but also time consuming. In the past I've gotten my potions from PvP (Alliance Pots), but it's been a while since I've done PvP for obvious reasons. I'm currently burning my gold and ap savings. Either that or I use Trash Potions and tweak my build to still get the important buffs. And golding out sets is outside my reach anymore most of the time. Of course it wouldn't be that hard to get potions or upgrade materials if you play regularly, but right now I just don't enjoy Eso enough and prefer playing other games.
Tl;dr
If you are only raiding potions and upgrade materials are ridiculously expensive.
I've always thought something like this was a little dramatic. I chuckle a little when I see things like this. Don't get me wrong, I understand why people do it. It's probably very cathartic for some people. But when I quit WoW, I just turned if off, cancelled my sub and that was it. I could login today and my boys would still be there (gear probably gone from someone pirating my character), but I don't because I just don't want to play.
I feel a lot of the complaints going on about ESO these days. And yes, the rewards system is total crap. For some reason that didn't really hit until this year. I don't know why. I think it's because one of my friends that I game with, who is not a pay-to-play and just logs in to game with me, wanted a polar bear mount for his Nord and was like, "so the only way to get a bear at all is to buy it?" And that's when it really set in that, okay....maybe a variant, like the polar bear or that raccoon-style bear is in the crown store (but even that's pushing it), but why can't we even get a brown bear as a reward in-game?
It seems like every MMO has their stages. After WotLK, WoW took a huge dive after Cataclysm came out. I don't know, I feel like ESO will weather this and there will be a proverbial changing of the guard as old players leave and new ones come in.
Dude had a funeral for his account and Nefas just busts in and screams "Do the surveys!"
Me when they changed sweeps . Faq u zos B)
I saw this video... there's hot rage quit, where you destroy your console/PC/panel... and then there's cold fury rage quit, which this video shows how that's done
I'm doing the same atm. Been selling my furniture from 3 full houses about a week now, as well my craft bag filled with mats. I'm giving some of the profits for the social guild I was staying, and then just gonna give the gold for some random low level player I see. (10.8 mil atm and I still have shit loads to sell). :D My breaking point was the hecking new teleportation animation thing. it is exactly the same as the before just different colour, but they want 100 gems for that. So many bugs, inflation out of hand, PvP always forgotten, no real good ways to earn gold besides focusing on selling, farming and flipping (as a PvP player that was not in my interests), but they still religiously roll them damn crates to milk more money out of us. I have already paid for the game, all dlc all chapters, giving them money every damn month from subbing for years, and then they have the gall to ask 100 gems for that damn different colour animation. The audacity. it is not that I want it, it is their attitude. Heck this game, the devs thinking us as a joke.
2:27 Nefas pisses in a bottle XD LOL JK
Hahahha
I quit due to update 35 also, but, have held onto my account in hopes that something miraculous happens, and it turns around somehow to be the beautiful game it once was. If it comes right, then I jump back on, if it's worth playing, I may resub, then the devs will see what draws back myself and potentially more of the community based on good decisions.
If I did this I would have to take out 86,000+ alkahest from my craft bag & everything else I have hoarded away too.
This is pointless. He does not need to re-grind anything. Since the sticker book you can easily re-create all the equipment you have already picked up. Seeing as he has all of the achievements he does his sticker book I’m sure is full of all of the sets you already need.
I don't agree with quiting the game because you love it. It's actualy smart. I'd rather stop playing and leave with good memories from the game rather than quitiing being tired of the state of it.
If you are having fun in a game you usually won’t quit it lol so take is kinda invalid.
I quit bcus of update 35 and never looked back
I have more hours than this in FF and I couldn't imagine deleting everything. I have way less in ESO and still couldn't think about doing this. My stuff will get deleted when the servers go down forever. That's it lol
This would be easier to watch if you matched your mic volume level with that of the dude's video, or even came close. It's like how espn used to be, with murmuring games and super loud commercials you could hear from the kitchen and/or bathroom (which was probably the intent).
Livewire is a superb set for 'fake tanking' at breakneck speeds in normal dungeons when you pull several encounters together to get through the RND fast. There are hundreds of players who would not even need to do this if transmutes had other reliable sources
I had over 307 days on playstation when I quit. That was launch till cloudrest. Decided to start on PC a year ago. Game always has its broke crap. Now I bought a ps5 and I might go back and visit.
The part of this that makes me sad is he didn’t sell his account. As a former player who locked myself out of an end game account rather than selling it my only regret is not making money off of my hours of time spent in game. I love my time spent in eso and am also glad that I have left.
Exactly! Im a ps4 transfer who refuses to re do all that stuff so buying an account was the only way i would play on pc. So sad thst he decided to do that instead of selling the account.
@@terasxionimeli6220 where could I sell my acc? And how much is the usual offers? Because I wouldn’t mind selling mine
I think, the way I would stop playing would be by gradually playing less, not logging in regularly anymore, and then at some point realizing that I should cancel ESO+. That is how it went with other games. I would either want to keep everything intact to be able to come back and play with the people I know, or there would be nobody left to give my stuff to. Even if I would give some things away, I would make sure that I could still have an easy return if I ever wanted.
Destroying everything, because you might be tempted to come back, makes no sense to me. If you are tempted to come back, there is not shame in playing again. If they make changes that address your grievances with the game or put out content you are interested in, there is no reason to not give it a shot. Don't take the flaws and mistakes of ZOS personally. They certainly don't take you leaving personally.
I enjoy eso for pve and the voice acted quests I play as a tank and very much enjoy it, I play the gane to enjoy it thats all there is to it
What would it take to turn ESO's reputation around? Would it be possible, even if ZOS fixed all these problems? I still love the game and I want to keep playing, but at this point I'm also hesitant to pay for the subscription with all the bugs and cash grabs... and I'm one of the casual players the company has been trying to cater to.
Is it feasible to hope that they'll change enough for people to start coming back again?
I think it’s very admirable. I wish I had the strength to do this with some MMOs, bc i have one that i keep subscribing to but can’t really play bc I miss the game but it has a lot of bad memories attached.
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It's important to remember that as fun as games like ESO, ffxiv, wow, Warframe, BDO, RuneScape, etc etc are, they are kind of just digital addictions. And they are fucking appealing.
This was like watching someone make the decision to finally stop drugs or alcohol after years of addiction.
I recently stopped as well and I do miss it but I feel better.
The most appealing games to me have been the time sink never ending style games like I listed above. I spent hundreds of hours in ESO, ffxiv, wow, Warframe and others. I had alot of fun but part of me regrets it.
Single player games early on left a bad taste for me because I was sad when it ended. That was it, it was done.
Then wow hit and there was an end to the story, but not the game but then it was a live service so expansions.
These games are MADE to be addictive. Maybe they weren't at first with osrs and vanilla wow, but then corps figured out how easy it is to manipulate people to spend obcene hours and program then to log in every single day to do chores.
Watching my friend grind chores on lost ark every day is like watching someone drink themselves to death. They just can't stop.
Im not shitting on people who like these games, but it's important to realize how thin the line is between fun gaming experience and addiction
Bro ppl can do dailys without being addicted xD if it was too much for u then its good u stopped but if you ever had something to do with drugs ud realize theres a fckn huge difference
How is FF14 a addiction Ive played for 10 years and not once have I felt "man I did to delete this game" or "man I got to keep playing this game" matter of fact I stopped playing for a year when stormblood came out and came back to it for the hype of shadowbringers
He didn't show himself deleting all his characters because ESO has a hard limit on deleting characters. can't delete more than 3 per day. Probably to try to get people that want to do something like this to reconsider and to prevent hacking trolls from deleting a whole account's worth of characters when they hack someone.
Of all things that we can complain about .... I don't get the whole "it's to many sets and to much farm"-argument like -that is the game. Without grind there can be no sense of accomplishment . Imagine eso without farming, it would be hollow.
If the whales like this guy are leaving the game is in serious trouble.
I did something like this back when Blackwood launched. I deleted my launch character - the only character I had - which had over 40K achievement points, rank 47 PVP, and a lot of hours invested over seven years at that point. The game had grown stale and I wanted to free up my ESO time to do other things. Ironically if I had waited a few patches I could have saved most of those achievements and come back. But I would have to redo the PVP stuff, which isn’t very appealing. Of course, deletion is the ultimate fate of every MMO character, whether voluntary or not, when the game eventually goes offline.
Did something like this when I quit black desert. Spam enhanced all of my gear, lost most of it, deleted my most used characters. (It takes time to delete them). Never going back. Also he only showed 3 character deletes because you only get 3 character deletes at a time (they refresh at 1 per day)
I've personally left the game, wasn't a massively great gamer but I had some hardmodes done. Haven't deleted anything or given things away but I can't stomach coming back right now
I did the same thing when I left. Donated my gold to the trade guild I was in too. Only thing I couldn't get rid of was Crown Store items.
I think he DOES want to make a statement, if only unconsciously. Why else make a video of him destroying stuff where he doesn't even talk the whole time. Or how could you interpret 6min of silent deconstructing?
Also, funny how his advice is to stay away from the game and then give away all his stuff. Thats like saying: "I quit smoking because I feel like it's not good for my health. Here, you can have all my left over cigarettes." That's contradictory (or evil). Why support something you think is generally bad enough to "urge" (new) players to stay away?
Sounds like that was his first MMORPG, because that's the standard path MMORPGs take after a while.
i am meeting ppl who left playing on the playstation because ppl leaving. they now on pc.
i so hope zos wakes up and saves this game before i run in a empty world.
i stopped paying and buying stuff, but still play. i play since beta, and hope it gets great again.
I am one of them..I’m 1300 cp on ps5 I play eu..I started again on pc because console players have it so much worse than pc..The lag is so bad most of the time in pvp it put me off I have run all vet content have all trial sets legendary and 5 toons when I logged on ps5 I was board So I made the switch I’m level 50 now on pc I’m not taking this seriously but more of a beta to see what comes to consoles on a later date when updates and changes come because Pc get things a lot sooner..I luv just been running round doing the quests and getting all the lore add ons is a game changer
hope u have fun on pc. its still a big world with enough folk on pc, but what i mend was that it used to have more ppl around and what i do not hope is to run on pc in a empty world. for i lost enough friends who stopped because of bugs and such, and what i,ve heard of playstation isnt a good sign i thought for pc future. excuse i gave a wrong impression.
i never played it on ps, only on pc.
but what u tell me that truly sucks big time. still, im glad u joined pc. hope we meet in a guild and u stay.
Doing the Asmongold approach I see, and I love it! 😊
Ikr I wouldnt hate on Nefas for coping Asmongold. Copy others' successes.
@@MalcomMalediction Hey I prefer the Asmongold approach I guess? Not hating or anything it's just nice to see people giving their opinions which we need more off.
It's better than watching some other styles of reaction because at least the person reacting HAS the knowledge
Dont get me wrong ,I love this game. I've played every day and many nights as well for the last 4 years. but at the end of the day it is just a game . Theres no need to chuck your teddy bear out of the pram and be such a drama queen about it .
Whoever is quitting on pc, I'll take your gold and mats. Lol. Recent, transfer from ps5 and it sucks starting over.
Hmm how long will it be until nefas makes a very similar video
Painful to watch all of that. There are plenty of complaints to be made about the game, but I think we've seen that it's in flux and has nearly endless potential. Homeboy had enough, and that's sad, but it was a *little bit* dramatic to announce your departure like this.
My ~15,000 hours played ("/played" across all 16 characters added together) ESO account (started in 2014, complete with Imgakin Monkey "beta pet") had sat idle for just short of 2 years until I logged in to check it out again this past Monday out of morbid curiosity. At the time I left ESO, I enjoyed success in both PvE and PvP. I had all of the PvE content on farm, played with most of the best players PC-NA had to offer up to then, and had every "meaningful achievement" (including in PvP such as Cyrodiil Emperor before it was a simple matter of just "Emp Trading" in a dead campaign). Now, I know that's not the same thing as outright deleting the account. But, I do agree with most of his assessment of the development of the game over time. I guess I just went away more quietly than he did. LOL
I'd say I have like 900hrs and my heart skipped when I saw the mats
Bro, I agree with everything he said. I feel bad for him honestly. I know how he feels.
This is a way to almost guarantee that you will not return. I am tempted to do this as well, just because they are really fucking up the game. I stopped playing just before update 35 and just started back. It is so much worse now. If something does not change, this is a likely outcome for many.
I would of sold my account
I took a break after update 36, this is my second long break. I don't think I'll be coming back honestly, I've been playing some bdo lately, until aoc releases.
ESO is just the tip of the iceberg. This is happening in a lot of MMOs. Destiny 2 is having the same problem. An influx of lazy new gamers that think the best weapons and gear are unattainable, so they get together and cry about certain weapons and gear (Divinity in D2, Maelstrom weapons in ESO) until said weapon gets nerfed or changed. Sounds like the same bunch crying about how they can’t afford rent or a house in real life. What a time to be alive.
I love deleting surveys. No time to dig.
I wish younger gamers would understand us older gamers and the struggle we had. This dude complained about crashes and the game being unplayable. Here I am in the 1980s playing final fantasy 1 all summer for 1000 hours only to come home and my saved information was corrupted and everything was gone. No numbers to call no updates to be had. Just take your loss and start a new game, only for it to happen over and over again. The complaints I see now are ridiculous. I’m over the moon just fishing in ESO. The game is wonderful and beyond anything I personally could have imagined in my lifetime. All you youngins just don’t know what you have.
I have almost everything I want in eso and I’m a housing dps pve farming nerd and I don’t spend money on anything except new chapters. Bought it all in game from crown sellers with in game gold.
My file is roughly the same as his, roughly, I love eso ....I've run 5 trials in 3 years they suk .I'd play a trial or 2 every day if u could que like a dungeon ?
This video sums up why I also quit ESO after a considerable amount of time spent playing it. The only thing I miss about ESO is the fluid combat.
The potions part I disagree on, hell its really easy to level Alchemy and make your own potions for free, you just gotta sometimes gather the mats, I leveled Alchemy for my raid potions in like 15 mins tops, but the upgrade materials I heavily agree with, 600 hours in and I had golded out everything but my jewelry and was nowhere near close enough to afford golding out my jewelry
God, just watching him have to trade 5-6 things at a time (i forget how many it is) is reason enough to leave the game. lol They do everything 1/2 wrong. Even the extra item slot wheel they did wrong. Just give us X amount of extra slots to scroll through, don't lock particular wheels/slots to particular types of items. The dev's are just so bad.
I’ve been playing this game for 8 years n complete most of what the game have to offer. From questing to vet dungeons n trials. And also get most of the skins from all these dungeon n trials and I can admit you can get really burnt out when the keep changing the meta every 3 month. The game need to offer more rewards when it comes to trials. Update 35 let every dam class play the exact same. If ur a casual gamer none of what am saying applies to u because u guys just play the game how u want which is total fine but people have different goals in every game and the dev need to respect that.
Everything he has said on why he is quitting; is valid.
I will never understand deleting all the toons. Just stop playing and cancel the sub.
I said that too when i saw the vid title 🤣
The grass isnt greener in a different lawn... but at least its not covered in shit.
Me at 3,400-something with no intention of ever deleting my character: “WHY have you done this”
Haven't played in months and can't find the fridge to login again. Maybe something will happen in the future to pique my interest but as of right now there isn't thing about the game that feels like it's worth investing more time in it. Sad tbh.
New players don't necessarily need potions they can used skills and optimize after they raid hardcore and make gold from it.
yeah I was gonna say. I never had an issue getting pots in ESO. Mostly because I either farmed the mats myself and crafted them or I just bought them with my extra gold. Also you could just not use pots outside of trials and vets that's what I did. Same goes for raid food
Dear Nefas,in case you did Not know: /played in chat und you will know the exact time you played eso.
What will we do when we cannot damage burn.
Yeah iv been logging in sometimes to dismantle gear and iv been giving my mats away to friends who still play. I was an avid pve/pvper and I loved the game since its launch but after update 35 and now the block bug along with everything else from 36 I just dont trust them to fix the game or make it better.
He didn't get rid of everything leaving that original video.
This is like a partner who doesn’t just leave you but burns all your stuff, keys your car and talks shit about you on social media.
Don’t go away mad. Just go away.
I am thinking this is the same guy that does this in many games, he attains all and then is not having fun anymore! Many play so much in the years past they are obsessed, and then when they get to that " whale" level, everything's so suddenly easy for them, they get bored. BAh! It's just a rage quit and it's been happening for years, he just went to extremes by deleting and documenting it all for everyone to see. What's sad to me is how influencing and damaging it is. I would NEVER base my opinion of in game experience off of just one other person's experience or just raiding in general. All MMOs have unique issues, growing pains and struggles, there is no way to please all. Hopefully ESO can survive " the beatings will continue until moral improves"....phase.
16:07 it's their choice, and ZoS decisions to cause it. We are not sad that the devs are crushing the game.
Damage burning is the way.