SHOCKING Sony a1 vs Canon R5 Review: Portraits, Sports & Wildlife

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    Tony & Chelsea Northrup review the $6,500 full-frame 50 megapixel 30 frames per second (FPS) Sony A1 (sdp.io/a1) camera vs the $4,500 45 megapixel 20 FPS Canon EOS R5 (sdp.io/r5) camera. They test eye detect autofocus for portraits with both humans and dogs. Then, they take wildlife photos to test the bird eye AF. Next, they test two sports scenarios: photographing people running at the camera and motorsports / cars.
    The results are genuinely shocking - the Sony A1 frequently blows us away with its speed, but the less expensive Canon R5 also wins many of the comparisons!
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  • @MrMalevolent86
    @MrMalevolent86 3 роки тому +43

    "Or a panda" was a great jab lol.

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 3 роки тому

      Pandas are vicious and using LOL is pretty irrelevant

  • @williamkapes5185
    @williamkapes5185 3 роки тому +12

    Great video - conveys a lot of information while being very entertaining. Better than regular TV these days. As far as Sony Alpha 1 vs Canon R5, I would think the real competition would be the Canon R1 when it comes out... the huge price differential and the fact that the Alpha 1 is Sony's best, while the R5 is priced more like a 5D Mark IV replacement, should indicate that the real match up is yet to come. The fact that the R5 does so well is the "shocking" result of the video. I am really becoming addicted to Tony & Chelsea videos - you are both enjoyable to watch and never fail to bring a smile to me after a long day. Thanks!

  • @asheeshkchopra
    @asheeshkchopra 3 роки тому +5

    You guys form a very engaging team and though I keep telling myself that I don't want to spend time watching gear stuff, you manage to lure me into watching your videos. Thanks.

  • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
    @youuuuuuuuuuutube 3 роки тому +80

    "Switching focus priority to Release would increase the fps but decrease the number of shots in focus" => that's actually a big assumption, and it means you didn't test. In reality, you will often find the exact opposite, and for ex. Jordan used 30fps with Release and got all his shots in focus. And what mode was the R5 on? Is there a setting to change that? If not then it's Release by default. Don't you think both cameras should be set at the same settings (or at least very similar) in a fair comparison?
    Also, it's pretty clear the 70-200GM is the bottleneck in that test. When you test a camera, you don't want to limit it, so you should use the best possible lens, in this case it could have been the 135GM for example. This is true for all tests of any kind. For example when comparing GPU speeds in games, you want to use the fastest possible CPUs as well, in order for the games not to be limited by the CPU.

    • @youknowwho9247
      @youknowwho9247 3 роки тому +6

      The difference is that I can pair any GPU with any CPU, so testing them independently makes sense. What if I'm a sports shooter who needs the 70-200 focal length? If I get the a1, I'm stuck with their outdated glass. What the camera can do with other lenses attached is irrelevant in that scenario. I need a camera + 70-200 combination to perform well.

    • @daran0815
      @daran0815 3 роки тому +10

      @@youknowwho9247 This wasn't supposed to be a test of 70-200 lenses. Personally I have zero intention of getting a 70-200 (and certainly not the current GM), but am very interested in AF performance. So that part of the comparison was a complete bust.

    • @Knowbody42
      @Knowbody42 3 роки тому

      Hardware Unboxed discovered that Nvidia GPUs perform worse with lower end CPUs than AMD GPUs, because Nvidia GPUs use software scheduling.

    • @daran0815
      @daran0815 3 роки тому

      @@Knowbody42 Fair enough. But to find that issue you need to test both cards with both types of CPUs. Not one card with a slow and one with a fast CPU.

    • @Knowbody42
      @Knowbody42 3 роки тому

      @@daran0815 It's significant enough that in some cases a 5600 XT outperformed an RTX 3090. You would think that should never happen.

  • @lifefootsteps7506
    @lifefootsteps7506 3 роки тому +163

    “You better hope that stays only with cameras” Chelsea you made my day 😆

    • @BiggMo
      @BiggMo 3 роки тому +5

      Tony was momentarily thinking menage a trois

    • @damaster692
      @damaster692 3 роки тому +4

      Chelsea , do you like younger guys? I volunteer to be your side guy , don't worry if fit 😉

    • @saikatghosh89
      @saikatghosh89 3 роки тому

      that was such a sick burn XD

    • @dizmatt1
      @dizmatt1 3 роки тому +2

      FATALITY!!! points to Chelsea

    • @BlubberNuggy
      @BlubberNuggy 3 роки тому

      Gold

  • @GetToKnowNature
    @GetToKnowNature 3 роки тому +9

    This is incredibly helpful, thank you! Great video with so much useful detail. I think it's time to upgrade to the R5.

  • @boal451
    @boal451 3 роки тому +7

    I have to say I felt gear could be limiting at times when I had my 5d mark iii, but since I switched to mirrorless my keeping rate skyrocketed. We are at a level where gear doesn't matter anymore !!!

  • @robertdouglas9345
    @robertdouglas9345 2 роки тому

    I have been away from your channel for awhile, but you guys really continue to keep it fresh and interesting! Good work!

  • @sigmaoctantis_nz
    @sigmaoctantis_nz 3 роки тому +82

    I switched from Canon to Nikon a few years ago and was happy with the decision at the time. Let's be honest though, Canon is killing it now with the R5 and R6.

    • @joeblack4026
      @joeblack4026 3 роки тому +4

      Well they are killing it with great but big heavy lenses . Compactness goes to Sony

    • @lucannon
      @lucannon 3 роки тому +2

      Never underestimate the sensors of Sony (and Nikon). The original R is very poor in terms of sensor performance. I own one, it is not good. My 12 year old 5d mk 2 has a nicer quality.

    • @phelanwolf6747
      @phelanwolf6747 3 роки тому +2

      Nothing stops you from switching back and forth or using multiple systems. It’s not like you are married to any of these camera systems, you owe them no loyalty.

    • @csc-photo
      @csc-photo 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@phelanwolf6747 Sure, as long as $ isn't a factor. That's an expensive approach.

    • @micgold7602
      @micgold7602 3 роки тому +3

      @@joeblack4026 Compactness when you want to be a professional?
      Glass all the way.

  • @ryanb8736
    @ryanb8736 3 роки тому +69

    Tony is not your typical BMW driver. He uses his blinker!

    • @doghouseriley4732
      @doghouseriley4732 3 роки тому +2

      BMW drivers normal drive with blinkers

    • @fepethepenguin8287
      @fepethepenguin8287 3 роки тому +3

      @@doghouseriley4732 and they spel good

    • @daran0815
      @daran0815 3 роки тому +1

      @@fepethepenguin8287 And they are all native english speakers?

    • @Emily17210
      @Emily17210 3 роки тому +2

      These are not blinkers but turn lights. Meaning, they are not designed for blinking, but for telling other drivers on the road that you are about to turn. Maybe this is why people don’t use these, because they don’t know what they are for?

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 2 роки тому

      @@Emily17210 Actually in german the thinks ARE called Blinker

  • @saudi4us
    @saudi4us 3 роки тому +1

    Waw ... amazing review and huge efforts ... very much appreciated dear Tony and Chelsea

  • @davidsala9549
    @davidsala9549 3 роки тому

    Great comparison video! Love your channel! Thanks you two! Cheers!

  • @AllgoodthingsTv
    @AllgoodthingsTv 3 роки тому +207

    I know Tony was being sarcastic when he said real photographers don't need eye AF, but Chelsea's snappy rebuke was priceless "Ok, well if you don't need it why pay all that money to get it!?" 😂Loving this comparison. Thanks guys!

    • @gosman949
      @gosman949 3 роки тому +1

      yes and that is why I'm staying with the Nikon Z cameras and my old Pentax.

    • @jobanski
      @jobanski 3 роки тому +1

      I know right? 😂 gotta love Chelsea.

    • @hofra01
      @hofra01 3 роки тому +1

      Well he is somehow right, real photographers don’t need eye AF, and to proof that look at the guys that do big budget commercial shoots that goes to billboards, they use medium format that doesn’t have eye af.

    • @gosman949
      @gosman949 3 роки тому +6

      @@hofra01 us old timers never used it! But got to admit, with our eyes aging, it is nice to have. Especially with those grandbabies moving around so fast!

    • @hofra01
      @hofra01 3 роки тому +3

      @@gosman949 sure it is nice to have, but nowadays people are making it a huge deal. Like shooting with a camera that has better eye AF will make you a better photographer or will make your photos magically better than shooting with a camera that doesn’t have a good eye af.

  • @tanmayshewale3621
    @tanmayshewale3621 3 роки тому +35

    While he was at 85 mm 1.4 Sony's iso was 800 and canons was 400 and then he says canons image is cleaner and has better image quality. Wtf Tony

    • @romanpul
      @romanpul 3 роки тому +2

      They were using auto settings and he said the sony chose better settings to expose the image correctly

    • @chosenideahandle
      @chosenideahandle 3 роки тому +4

      @@romanpul he also said they kept the settings the same and commented on the Sony being brighter. So, I think it was a goof-up.

    • @romanpul
      @romanpul 3 роки тому +1

      @@chosenideahandle Maybe he meant the same auto setting 😂😂
      But it makes actually sense, that the RF needs higher ISO (or lower shutter speed). Despite its otherwise great feature the RF 50mm f1.2 has relatively low transmission for a f1.2. At f1.2 it just gathers as much light as the GM at f1.4. A better comparison would have been to shoot them both wide open

    • @chosenideahandle
      @chosenideahandle 3 роки тому +1

      @@romanpul oh ok

    • @patmat.
      @patmat. 3 роки тому +3

      Tony & Chelsea are total frauds imo

  • @ArleneVideos
    @ArleneVideos 3 роки тому +49

    Please test the A1 with a lens that can keep up with the 30 frames per second ie., the 135 1.8 gm and the 24 1.4 gm for instance. These lenses have been built for action. Using the outdated 70-200 2.8 was an unfair test.

    • @justinholding02
      @justinholding02 3 роки тому +18

      unfair test against a 700$ consumer f11 prime? lol

    • @hiawrj
      @hiawrj 3 роки тому +5

      The 70-200 GM can keep up - but he needs to use Wide AF area and set his shutter to Release under settings up achieve the 30 fps. :)

    • @midnightsnack1306
      @midnightsnack1306 3 роки тому +1

      @@hiawrj regardless 70-200 is already an old lens and needs a hardware update.

    • @dotunfamakinwa
      @dotunfamakinwa 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed - why test the camera with a lens that is not capable??

    • @sebastianmatthews1663
      @sebastianmatthews1663 3 роки тому +3

      The 135mm, maybe. But the 24mm? Who IN THE BLUE HELL is using a 24mm lens for sports?
      But realistically, a sports photographer needs to be using whatever the best 70-200 is on their system. In the case of Sony that happens to be a slightly outdated lens. It's no good to a sports photographer saying something like "well the system was designed for newer lenses like the 24mm f/1.4" when they _need_ the 70-200.

  • @udiakuka7889
    @udiakuka7889 3 роки тому +11

    How to win any argument, by Tony:"Yeah, but I have 30 frames per seconds"

  • @geophizz
    @geophizz 3 роки тому +40

    So it looks like both cameras are good at Pixel peeping

  • @TheodoreSchnell
    @TheodoreSchnell 3 роки тому +20

    I like how the two of you can present opposing views like people really should -- without getting personal and resorting to ugliness. Wish people could talk like that about all things that are potentially contentious.
    You both rock! Thank you, always, for your content.

    • @micahrehn6273
      @micahrehn6273 3 роки тому +1

      True Ted, Mass media and social media have really stoked the ugliness in people, it’s like there is an agenda to create division, not unity.

  • @Jviotr
    @Jviotr 3 роки тому +19

    "Are they usable frames, or will you just keep knocking your lens off your body?" :)

  • @kfacpa
    @kfacpa 3 роки тому

    Thank you, great video (as usual).. Any thoughts on the A1s shortcomings... will this be able to be fixed with firmware updates?

  • @UdoKellner
    @UdoKellner 3 роки тому +3

    In the end, it depends on which system you have chosen, after all you have invested in the lenses.
    Both cameras are great, but because of other advantages (downsampling FF according to APSC etc.) I'm looking forward to the A1 I have ordered!
    Letztendlich kommet es darauf an für welches System man sich entschieden hat, schließlich hat man ja auch in die Objektive investiert.
    Beide Kameras sind super, aber wegen auch anderer Vorteile (downsampling FF nach APSC u.a.) ich freue mich auf meine bestellte A1!

  • @YakAlmighty
    @YakAlmighty 3 роки тому +34

    16:45 what I see behind me in my nightmares when tony is chasing me to sell all my gear at KEH

  • @onlysublime
    @onlysublime 3 роки тому +2

    for the indoor portraits, what was the metering mode of the Canon?

  • @baseballman74
    @baseballman74 3 роки тому

    Great content! Fun and informative from both of you cool folks!

  • @AndersCMadsen
    @AndersCMadsen 3 роки тому +49

    Wait, hold on.
    At 3:30 you talk about the sharpness of the Sony lens, using an image that you just used to document how the Sony body front focus.
    That does not seem reasonable.

    • @richtodd467
      @richtodd467 3 роки тому

      Right???

    • @wildlifebybrianhoule
      @wildlifebybrianhoule 3 роки тому +3

      Exactly. The image on the left looks far better imho. I didn't even look at the top until I looked at the images.

    • @doghouseriley4732
      @doghouseriley4732 3 роки тому

      @@wildlifebybrianhoule That's why you are w keyboard warrior and they earn a living doing what they do. Every photgrapher will tell you, focus on the iris....................

    • @wildlifebybrianhoule
      @wildlifebybrianhoule 3 роки тому +6

      @@doghouseriley4732 lol. Ok. So I offer my opinion on 2 images and suddenly I’m a keyboard warrior? That’s a wee bit defensively harsh like you took it personally. I’ll give you the benefit of doubt being a stranger and all plus chalk it up to Covid stress. Check out Mark Galer’s video. His shots didn’t seem to catch the eyelashes and nailed the iris - of a 70mph moving greyhound. I’ll wait to see what other reviewers have to say as well.

    • @nicpixfoto3513
      @nicpixfoto3513 3 роки тому +2

      he is comparing 400 iso canon image to 800 iso sony image off course canon will be ''sharper''

  • @Atreyas
    @Atreyas 3 роки тому +77

    I like how Mark Galer basically told us Tony doesn't know wtf he's doing. Maybe learn how to actually use a camera before reviewing one?

    • @brentshipley
      @brentshipley 3 роки тому +13

      Yeah that was funny, Tony & Chelsea comparing one of Canon's best zooms ever to the 5yo 70-200 GM didn't fool me.

    • @stevemurnan1702
      @stevemurnan1702 3 роки тому +9

      Perhaps Mr Galer should use an R5 before making false claims about it as he clearly doesn't no wtf he's talking about with regard to Canon gear.

    • @Atreyas
      @Atreyas 3 роки тому +18

      @@stevemurnan1702 Not sure wtf you're talking about, as he made no references to the R5, only Tony's inability to properly use the Sony in his review.

    • @stevemurnan1702
      @stevemurnan1702 3 роки тому +3

      @@Atreyas At about 54 minutes he puts a slide up showing the superiority of the A1 vs the R5. The first item on the list claims the R5 suffers from blackout and the A1 doesn't. Go back and watch the video again at around 54 minutes.

    • @rattoh
      @rattoh 3 роки тому +4

      @@stevemurnan1702 What other 70-200 2.8 option does sony have? Oh none? That's sonys fault. A camera is only as good as its ecosystem that supports it and user.

  • @Zomlies
    @Zomlies 3 роки тому +1

    I'd like to see you guys compare the two with more prime lenses. I use the Zeiss Batis 40mm f2 and Batis 85mm f1.8 (on an A7III) at weddings all the time and I always get auto eye focus. I know that there's several reasons why the A7III would be different, but it'd be interesting to see the A1 go against the Canon with faster and more up to date lenses. Thank you both for putting these videos together all the time. Your videos were such a great resource when I was first starting to learn a few years ago.

  • @joewellham1
    @joewellham1 3 роки тому +34

    Just come from Mark Galer's excellent review of the A1, someone who actually knows how to set up this camera and use it correctly.

    • @stevemurnan1702
      @stevemurnan1702 3 роки тому +5

      The man that get's paid in kind by Sony and was asked to make the video. He also compared the A1 to the R5 and clearly hasn't ever picked an R5 judging by his claims of blackout etc. He also fails to mention where the R5 is superior to the A1 and the huge price difference.

    • @cogmission1
      @cogmission1 3 роки тому

      @@stevemurnan1702 Where is it superior? I would like to know (at least what you think?). The fact that the R5 can't record to both cards simultaneously is a deal breaker for me. I need the security of redundant content recording in case something happens. But I would like to know what you think?

    • @doghouseriley4732
      @doghouseriley4732 3 роки тому

      This is the guy who gets a Sony wage cheque?

    • @stevemurnan1702
      @stevemurnan1702 3 роки тому +1

      @@cogmission1 IBIS 5.5 stops vs 8, resolution of rear screen and a fully articulated rear screen to name a few. The jury is out on the eye AF atm but in all the videos I've seen it's no better than the R5 and some are saying worse. Until full independent tests have been carried out on the A1 there's a lot of second guessing sensationalist crap floating around. However Mr Galer's comparison with the $3000 cheaper R5 clearly states the R5 has blackout. The guy's a hypocrite taking expensive goods off of Sony for free then claiming he's not affiliated to Sony. He produces a video at Sony's request (as they don't like the bad press) to set the record straight then makes false claims about the R5.
      The R5 can record to both cards simultaneously btw. I do it frequently and you can download the manual to check if you are concerned.

    • @cogmission1
      @cogmission1 3 роки тому

      @@stevemurnan1702 Thank you for your sober response. (That’s genuine)
      For conclusive evidence of the A1’s AF capability, put this into UA-cams search - it will end all confusion... (if you’re interested)
      “Sony A1 new bird eye AF: Is it really work? A1+200-600G”

  • @brucegraner5901
    @brucegraner5901 3 роки тому +3

    Really interesting, well thought-out review. I think Canon deserves a lot of credit for its comeback and producing a camera that is, comparatively speaking, an excellent value and a serious competitor to Sony's latest and greatest.

  • @paulwohlford6820
    @paulwohlford6820 3 роки тому

    Love these types of videos thr both of you do. Thank you.

  • @mikeyb9819
    @mikeyb9819 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, thanks. Could you let us know whether the shutter covering the sensor of the A1 has cured the dust issues you have frequently complained of with your A7R4/3. Also, how does the R5 compare in this respect.

    • @MichaelKantormusic
      @MichaelKantormusic 3 роки тому

      my A9ii covers the sensor when off. It helps. I clean my sensor about every 6 months now, but I usually don't change in the field. If I did, I would turn off the sony, let the shutter close over it, then swap. It covers the sensor after about 5 seconds when you switch off. The A7R4 for whatever reason didn't update the software to do that. Just the A9ii.

  • @mathias_eugen_engen
    @mathias_eugen_engen 3 роки тому +17

    1:50 it seems like the canon eye focuses way further away, and sticks to the eye at 2:20 way better.

    • @f.iph7291
      @f.iph7291 3 роки тому +1

      how come i actually love the focus to be on the eyelashes more so than the iris🤔

    • @doghouseriley4732
      @doghouseriley4732 3 роки тому

      @@f.iph7291 You are wierd? Just saying

    • @doghouseriley4732
      @doghouseriley4732 3 роки тому +1

      The eye-autofocus is amazing, leaves nikon so far behind and even beats the Sony

  • @moealyasini2784
    @moealyasini2784 3 роки тому +35

    My R5 keeps on sounding AMAZING and the best choice I made so far

    • @nasserkhalaf7405
      @nasserkhalaf7405 3 роки тому +1

      I can relate also

    • @cogmission1
      @cogmission1 3 роки тому

      Until you realize you have no redundant recording and your CF card failed... You can just tell your client "Oops!" :-)

    • @moealyasini2784
      @moealyasini2784 3 роки тому +1

      @@cogmission1 what? Lol what are you talking about dude? I said R5 not Z7 🤣 i have redundant on my SD
      And if you mean video.. very little people need to record on dual cards..
      i shot with a Z6/7 for 2 years on one card and had never had an issue or problem.. lmao! Dude i am sad for your negativity hahah

    • @cogmission1
      @cogmission1 3 роки тому

      @@moealyasini2784 Be sad for yourself. Your luck will run out and you'll ruin some poor client's life. Do what you need to do.

    • @nasserkhalaf7405
      @nasserkhalaf7405 3 роки тому +1

      @@cogmission1 are u serious?! I've been shooting for years now and never had this issues. so I'm not gonna sell my r5 just for video redundancy

  • @ggs0605
    @ggs0605 Рік тому

    Love the banter and competitive nature of you two. Very entertaining!
    Oh - your camera info is top notch too!

  • @GadgetID_
    @GadgetID_ 3 роки тому +1

    Even with only those conversations without camera test, i always learned something from them 👍❤️❤️❤️

  • @maxinemontserrat1066
    @maxinemontserrat1066 3 роки тому +3

    Very informative. Thank you! The A1 costs more than fifty percent more, but is still beaten soundly. Can you do video as well?

  • @hungrydave
    @hungrydave 3 роки тому +60

    I'll probably never buy these cameras, but I love watching videos about them!

    • @Thumpr110
      @Thumpr110 3 роки тому +5

      @@drblakeslovick4607 I don’t have any problem with him nitpicking any of the latest gear. They’re all fantastic, but are bound to have flaws. Knowing exactly what the flaws are is useful if you’re considering purchasing something this expensive.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 3 роки тому +1

      @@drblakeslovick4607 show us where Tony hurt you

    • @MichaelRockfez
      @MichaelRockfez 3 роки тому +5

      I especially love videos from these two. No offense to other reviewers, but Tony shows a high level of intelligence in his reviews, and Chelsea is hands-down the best photography personality on YT.

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 3 роки тому

      @@drblakeslovick4607 which has destroyed our industry mediocre photographers power-hungry for social media Fame have put down day rates to lower than 20 years ago.. meanwhile your camera companies are making billions Canon doesn't care one bit

    • @harryvuemedia5106
      @harryvuemedia5106 3 роки тому +1

      You won't ever need to buy them. In 5 years time, these same specs with be in the Sony a7-5 and Canon R6-3. Imagine $2,500 bodies with these specs in 5 years. The A1 is showing us that the next generation of evolution cameras is Electronic sensors now thus removing mechanical shutters, their cost, and their limits.

  • @smaakjeks
    @smaakjeks 3 роки тому

    Really great comparison video, you guys!

  • @peterquaranta8031
    @peterquaranta8031 3 роки тому

    By far the best video u guys ever made. It was smooth, to the point and very enjoyable to watch. The cameras? I’m happy with mine but if I would have won the r5 in the contest it would be a different story. I would likely use it as a second camera on a tripod somewhere. I will never be a Sony guy, it’s a ‘thing’ I have with them. Canon, owned a few but the weight of these guys was getting a little too much, so I went in a different direction. Again, it was informative and one can see the enormous amount of work u guys did. Now the video. Opening clip, slight audio echo in the room u were in. Quality, perfect. Editing, perfect. Content, again, smooth even when doing your ‘commercial’. Thank you.

  • @omgmitzidis2
    @omgmitzidis2 3 роки тому +11

    For the price eventually, gotta love the R5 🖤

  • @nekogami87
    @nekogami87 3 роки тому +79

    Love the straight face when Chelsea says “or a panda” with the small silence afterward XD

  • @AndysCuts
    @AndysCuts 2 роки тому

    This is such a great video! I really enjoyed it. Thank you!

  • @ericfallabel9201
    @ericfallabel9201 3 роки тому

    Loved this review, it was so charming, entertaining, and informative.

  • @JerryWilliam63
    @JerryWilliam63 3 роки тому +3

    You two look like you genuinely enjoy each other.

  • @mikesmart3734
    @mikesmart3734 3 роки тому +3

    How are you still standing after that impression. 😂😂

  • @beyond8981
    @beyond8981 3 роки тому

    You guys are awesome - my favourite video yet after many years of following

  • @mynilesh
    @mynilesh 3 роки тому

    very helpful video as usual.. in this video at time stamp 7.36 to 7.45 the backroad blur looks very nice and creamy.. can you please share what camera and lens did you use to achieve this.. Thanks.

  • @AllgoodthingsTv
    @AllgoodthingsTv 3 роки тому +200

    So it seems to me, taking into account price and lenses, the Canon won this thing hands down

    • @Jessehermansonphotography
      @Jessehermansonphotography 3 роки тому +7

      But did you consider price OF lenses as well?

    • @PaulKentSkates
      @PaulKentSkates 3 роки тому +1

      The lenses are the most important piece too.

    • @meynp4337
      @meynp4337 3 роки тому +10

      To achieve good quality picture at 600 MM, the Sony A1/200-600mm Lens combo is the cheapest way to get that. Canon need to use its 600 mm prime lens on R5.

    • @cogmission1
      @cogmission1 3 роки тому +6

      @@meynp4337 Yup Canon R5 has an advantage because its been in the market for longer. Also the Sony A1 needs lens updates.

    • @MindMeddler
      @MindMeddler 3 роки тому +2

      also the Tamron 70-180 for E mount is a better comparison

  • @peterlechowski2691
    @peterlechowski2691 3 роки тому +17

    Yeah... 30fps if you can keep the lens on.
    Awesome winter hat Chelsea!

    • @cooloox
      @cooloox 3 роки тому

      ... If you can keep the lens on... That's hilarious 😂.

  • @MitchelWeintraub
    @MitchelWeintraub 3 роки тому

    I have Canon L glass, 20 years old (not the update V2, or V3 of these L glass) so I wonder how much I would lose with the Canon R5 in this type of dynamic focusing? Also what gear did you use to make the video. Thanks in advance for any information.

  • @SeasonAscent
    @SeasonAscent 3 роки тому +1

    Great comparison, and obviously a lot of effort put into this. Loved the non-serious subjective banter, it balanced well with your objective thoughts after each test :)

  • @alexg0742
    @alexg0742 3 роки тому +4

    Tony and Chelsea,
    You guys do such a great job. I've been looking forward to this video. Thank you for your hard work and professional reporting. I'm looking forward to more A1 content. Hook-em horns!

  • @Ytytfytfujbyddutrxrt
    @Ytytfytfujbyddutrxrt 3 роки тому +3

    I want to see a rolling shutter test. The faster readout electronic shutter is the defining feature of the A1. Some reviewers are saying that you can just leave the A1 on electronic shutter for everything.

    • @stevemurnan1702
      @stevemurnan1702 3 роки тому

      You need to take the entire testing as a whole not just one specific aspect. Until we get an all round comprehensive test no one can really make any solid judgement on the A1. We know there's next to no rolling shutter on ES already but what use is that when the AF isn't as good as a competitors camera that's 40% cheaper?

  • @TheCameraManReviews
    @TheCameraManReviews 3 роки тому

    Can I ask, does the teleconverter affect the focus speed?

  • @andrewclifton429
    @andrewclifton429 3 роки тому

    About the issue with unintentionally pressing the lens release on the Sony - I've never had this problem with my A7RIV but in any case, I always attach a camera strap to my telephoto lens - which means I'm less likely to accidentally drop it when changing lenses. Also, it protects the camera from taking the full weight of a heavy lens, pulling down on the lens mount.

  • @johncampbell3628
    @johncampbell3628 3 роки тому +9

    Haha see Fro on the sidelines when Tony talks about shooting sports

  • @rghurst
    @rghurst 3 роки тому +34

    Thanks for the review, but I would be much more interested in how the a1 compares to the a9II and a7RIV since there is no chance I will sell my $40k+ of Sony lenses. Just a suggestion. Also, the Sony 85/1.4 is probably the worst lens to use if you want to see what the a1 can actually do. Even Sony doesn't doesn't put the 85/1.4 in the "top tier" lenses for the a1.

    • @youknowwho9247
      @youknowwho9247 3 роки тому +5

      They used the 70-200 f/2.8 and 600 f/4 in the actual sports and wildlife tests.

    • @johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201
      @johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201 3 роки тому +11

      Yeah they looked like fools in the last video by using the slowest GM lens (the 85) to test the 30 FPS and on this video how did they cripple the camera?.. hey let’s put a teleconverter on it to slow it down with pre-production firmware that may not even be compatible with the teleconverter yet.... bonus points for making the lens disconnect on that newer big a7R IV grip size that your fingers normally don’t even wrap all the way around the front.. you’d have to try hard to hit that disconnect button. They’re definitely our special breed of Connecticut idiots

    • @jonspoard8416
      @jonspoard8416 3 роки тому

      +1 on using the Sony 85/1.4

    • @rghurst
      @rghurst 3 роки тому +1

      @@johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201 They're just doing their thing. And more information is always good. I have been hoping for a "hi-megapixel a9," so if the a1 can match, or improve on, the AF performance of the a9 at 50MP and 20+ fps, I will be happy.

    • @rghurst
      @rghurst 3 роки тому +1

      @@youknowwho9247 Yep. That's a good thing. The 70-200 is due for an upgrade but still a great lens. For close-up sports, I would be tempted to try the 135/1.8 because it is so sharp and fast.

  • @michaelcarter1963
    @michaelcarter1963 3 роки тому

    Glad I tuned in today! Great seeing Tony and Chelsea’s moves! That was the best part! I’d like to see Chelsea do a jump shot up to 8 feet n do a swisher while applying make up and Tony doing a 16 foot jump while reviewing the latest Pentax!! That might be interesting!!

  • @jbkivontop
    @jbkivontop 3 роки тому

    good job guys. I love your reviews!

  • @idkidkikik
    @idkidkikik 3 роки тому +6

    6:25 reminds me of what Chris Niccolls from DPReview said when he reviewed the Z6II: So, animal eye detect doesn't work on Black Cows with black eyes heavily backlight by the sun, disappointed!"

    • @cogmission1
      @cogmission1 3 роки тому

      Yep, and the Canon was focusing on the dog's nose!

  • @theworker1070
    @theworker1070 3 роки тому +35

    I like how he says “only 20 FPS” 😂

    • @rtyler1869
      @rtyler1869 3 роки тому +1

      20 FPS is nothing to sneeze at. I don’t know of a sport shooter who would be upset at that rate

    • @benjaminthorpe7990
      @benjaminthorpe7990 3 роки тому

      Here’s me with my 3fps A7ii, what is life with 20

    • @rtyler1869
      @rtyler1869 3 роки тому +1

      @@benjaminthorpe7990 wish I knew. My Eos R doesn’t get close

    • @theworker1070
      @theworker1070 3 роки тому

      @@rtyler1869 i totally agree

    • @jasonandrews7355
      @jasonandrews7355 3 роки тому

      My D800 does 4 lol. Anything above 7 feels exotic to me

  • @justinberken
    @justinberken 2 роки тому

    Great video guys! Thanks 🙏

  • @nicoles.6694
    @nicoles.6694 3 роки тому

    i have a question: which is the best CFexpress- and SD-card i could use for the canon R5???
    thanks for your help!!!

  • @networm64
    @networm64 3 роки тому +13

    Best promo for the R5 sofar! Congrats to you Northrups!
    The fact that you use the outdated Sony 70-200 instead of the real sport lens Sony has,100-400 GM shows the case.....

  • @Lucy-dk5cz
    @Lucy-dk5cz 3 роки тому +7

    As a panda owner I was sold on the Canon panda AF.

  • @joeymccallion
    @joeymccallion 3 роки тому +1

    I'm curious if shooting at f5.6 on the Sony and at f11 on the Canon for wildlife makes any difference at all when it comes to focusing?

  • @EddiTaru
    @EddiTaru 2 роки тому

    Hi, could you please help me decide. If I shoot mostly video but sometimes I want to do a little bit of photography, would it be better to have one SONY A7s3 and one SONY A7R4? Or would it be better to just have SONY A1?

  • @petertroode5589
    @petertroode5589 3 роки тому +19

    Tony, your experience with the accidental release of the lens is one I have experienced using my 100-400 GM and 70-200GM even without using gloves.
    This is a real scary problem and I am surprised nobody has raised this design flaw. Sony please relocate the lens release button on the other side of their future cameras.

    • @lucschoonjans4540
      @lucschoonjans4540 3 роки тому

      I have had the same issue with my 100-400mm on the a7R3. It was a close call.

    • @richrollin4867
      @richrollin4867 3 роки тому

      Me too while shooting landscape. I've had two close shaves with my 16-35mm.

  • @DavidPinkus2309
    @DavidPinkus2309 3 роки тому +17

    In terms of animal eye AF, I leave my A9 in either wide or expand flexible spot med tracking and my eye hit rate is almost 100%. It will first find the body, then head and then focus on eye very quickly. I'm sure the A1 would work even faster in these modes? I've even managed to get sharp focus on an animal in the brush with one eye obscured and sharp focus on the other eye.

    • @hiawrj
      @hiawrj 3 роки тому +3

      Yea, Tony is not doing any of the tests properly. :(

    • @derekv6479
      @derekv6479 3 роки тому +1

      I just turn on the animal eye auto focus on my R5 and get the same results!

    • @petedraper5185
      @petedraper5185 3 роки тому

      David Pinkus. Me too. First shot of a fox sitting in the open and facing me. Locked on to the left eye immediately at 45 metres. Fox then sat behind a bush, partially obscuring the left eye. Camera still locked on immediately at a distance of 48 metres (I used manual focus after each shot to determine the distance). I am really impressed with Sony animal eyeAF.

    • @derekv6479
      @derekv6479 3 роки тому

      @@petedraper5185 Yeah, they're getting close to Canon. Quite a bit ways to go though.

  • @dogdad4069
    @dogdad4069 3 роки тому

    What gear did you use to shoot this video and what settings did you have. I have tried to get this type of quality from my videos with zero success so far. Thank you

  • @m77ast
    @m77ast 3 роки тому

    Guys great content. You guys listening to your audience. I’m in the middle and I’m enjoying it. Don’t know if it’s me but I seem to really enjoy competition videos.
    Like I watched a competition when a photographer was using the Canon RP and the lady was using a 5D4.
    After that I ordered an EOS R immediately. It was almost an unfair advantage. 😃

  • @eschojr
    @eschojr 3 роки тому +4

    What a great review! Both are fantastic cameras... but in cost performance perspective, Canon R5 is super brilliant with excellent AF.

  • @SeanKMason
    @SeanKMason 3 роки тому +5

    own and r6 and still have been waiting for this

  • @vortexknight69
    @vortexknight69 2 роки тому +1

    I'm interested in whether the firmware update made the eye auto focus better on the A1.

  • @locker1964
    @locker1964 3 роки тому

    It's great what these two cameras can do when you need it. If you take the Sigma lenses for the Sony cameras, the total price for the Sony becomes somewhat relative. But my conclusion is, that for a Sony/Canon user there is no reason to change the system, if you mainly shoot landscapes/architecture you can also use the Z7 or SR1.

  • @myoti9831
    @myoti9831 3 роки тому +6

    I see that boy Jared Polin at 15:50 timeline...😂😂😂😂😂what camera he using for that sport game?

  • @m77ast
    @m77ast 3 роки тому +5

    That R5 locks on that eye like a gazelle.

  • @Scott_Mericle
    @Scott_Mericle 3 роки тому

    Loved this video! Great humor and facts! Best combo!

  • @johnharvey1786
    @johnharvey1786 3 роки тому +1

    Both great cameras. With the R5 Canon took a little while to release a firmware update to fix a few early issues and I expect Sony will do the same. Beta testing is never the same as full real world use. I would say I have been a Sony user for years and currently have the a9i and a7riv and have never accidentally released the lens even when using a long wildlife lens with teleconverters attached.

  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs 3 роки тому +229

    I'm calling it: Chelsea wins the internet this week with 'poly-camerous'! PS - interesting results concerning autofocus too, I've noticed more misses than I'd have expected with the A1 as well, but wondered if it was my lens selection at fault.

    • @vedranb87
      @vedranb87 3 роки тому +7

      As a polyamorous AND poly-camerous person myself, I cannot overstate how much that made my day. :D

    • @andrewclifton429
      @andrewclifton429 3 роки тому +16

      I'm both poly-camerous and polyamorous - IN PRINCIPLE. In practice, I'm mono-camerous and single! I'd like to be poly-camerous, but my bank account won't let me. I'd also like to be polyamorous, but nobody'll let me. Ho-hum. At least I have my A7RIV.

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 3 роки тому +3

      Or maybe you could learn how to do some manual focus stop being a lazy spray and prayer

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 3 роки тому +1

      Gender neutral and identity politics are initiation in to artificial intelligence. And I'm allowed to say that

    • @andrewclifton429
      @andrewclifton429 3 роки тому +15

      @Gus Erland What the hell is this ridiculous misogynistic rant about? Chelsea made a joke - about cameras FFS. There's no reason to think she's actually interested in polyamory. And I don't think you know either Tony or Chelsea at all well.

  • @Eihei
    @Eihei 3 роки тому +5

    Hmm, i'm not actually that convinced that Sony actually front focused on the first comparison. It seems to me like Sony shot simply has slightly deeper dof. It looks like that when you compare a spot that is slightly "deeper" in the photo than the eyeball, look at the conjunctiva on both shots, it looks pretty much in the same sharpness. Actually the Canon shot looks ever so slightly blurred, perhaps it is simply the motion blur.
    Also no shit that the photo was brighter, it was ISO 800 vs 400 :P But i guess you meant that the auto iso was better on Sony?

    • @sebastianmatthews1663
      @sebastianmatthews1663 3 роки тому +1

      It does look like the Canon photo has motion blur.
      They said the difference in exposure is because of the automatic metering (did not specify whether that was Av, Tv, P, A or only auto-ISO), which Canon kept getting wrong. I'd like to know what metering mode each camera was in since I've ever found either Sony or Canon to struggle with backlighting + a dark subject when focus-linked spot metering is used.

    • @Eihei
      @Eihei 3 роки тому

      @@sebastianmatthews1663 yeah, same for me. I'm using personally old A7 II and to be honest auto exposure is trash, really inconsistent.

  • @mosesdcoach
    @mosesdcoach 3 роки тому

    What camera will be best for joulery and food photography?

  • @riccardoaliasaxl7664
    @riccardoaliasaxl7664 3 роки тому

    Great review Tony & Chelsea, many thanks

  • @ParkourFreeLife
    @ParkourFreeLife 3 роки тому +3

    Aren't those 30fps only in compresed raw?
    Because if so, those extra 10frames are just kinda flex.

    • @midnightsnack1306
      @midnightsnack1306 3 роки тому +1

      Most pro sport photographers shoot in jpeg so for them the extra 10fps should be very helpful.
      With that said. I certainly would like to see a proper detailed comparison between compressed and uncompressed raw. I did it myself with my a7r4 and was hard pressed to see a difference in Capture One so I now always shoot at compressed to save space.

  • @spritual_enlightenment
    @spritual_enlightenment 3 роки тому +3

    Thank u for this video. I expected an easy win by a1 but it wasn't. R5 is a good photography camera.

  • @jefflunt9615
    @jefflunt9615 Рік тому

    My first comment on your site...I've been watching for a long time and I believe this is my favorite post from you guys. Great comparison and I hope you two keep doing this kind of comparison. Great job, and entertaining. What more can anyone ask?

  • @trungle6443
    @trungle6443 2 роки тому

    Hi Tony& Chelsea: any chance you can share canon R5 focus settings ( for sport mode, person running toward camera) my R5 focus not very good when Bridesmaids and groomsmen running. Not sure if my settings is wrong or my camera faulty. Thank you so much

  • @mikemuponda1781
    @mikemuponda1781 3 роки тому +34

    I’m a Sony guy but let’s give it to canon 👏🏽

  • @b29ak2007
    @b29ak2007 3 роки тому +11

    Well at least I know Canon has caught up with Sony Autofocus, thats the only thing I needed to hear

  • @pugdealer82
    @pugdealer82 3 роки тому

    Can you go into s35 mode in 4k120???
    I use it all the time on my a7iii, and need it to work the same way in the A1 in any 4k mode, especially 4k120

  • @sdgreen1960
    @sdgreen1960 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know if this has automatic focus bracketing? It should do at this price. If it's already in the video can you tell me at what point please. I haven't seen the whole thing.

  • @terrellcwoods
    @terrellcwoods 3 роки тому +7

    "...or a panda." 20 point slap down for Chelsea. 😊

  • @targetefx
    @targetefx 3 роки тому +7

    Thanks for a great video. Already in the Sony ecosystem and have pre-ordered the a1. A camera I can take birding and crop plus record video with the dynamic range of the a7s iii (and S-cinetone) is worth it for me.

    • @garytarbert9371
      @garytarbert9371 3 роки тому

      Not jumping on board at this stage , have the A9 and A7r4 so happy with that combo at the moment. Do not shoot video and no requirements for super fast transfer of files, if they introduce a stills only version for at least 40% off the current price I will be all over it like a cheap suite.

    • @justinholding02
      @justinholding02 3 роки тому

      just make sure you go out shooting with a friend who has a R5, you might be embarrased lol

  • @claraallansson3431
    @claraallansson3431 3 роки тому

    Please can you share how you have set your Canon R5 up for wildlife photography? AF Case settings etc, shutter mode etc.

  • @stallone_chris
    @stallone_chris 2 роки тому

    Hi Brother, have a nice day. Could u tell me the difference between
    FujiFilm gfx 100s VS gfx 50s ll VS Sony a1and Which one is good? Thanks in Advance.

  • @patmat.
    @patmat. 3 роки тому +15

    That video was presented to you by Canon's sponsored reviews program 😂

    • @viperstinger77
      @viperstinger77 2 роки тому

      Hahaha a bit salty there Pat....nawww its all good mate ur aloud to feel emotional

  • @venom5809
    @venom5809 3 роки тому +4

    Polycamourous and Panda 🐼 made my day 😂😂😂

  • @spen007
    @spen007 2 роки тому

    Love your work and sense of humor.
    Thank you!

  • @dhedc
    @dhedc 3 роки тому +1

    A nice comparison. Thank you.

  • @raycarter4030
    @raycarter4030 3 роки тому +36

    Wow. It's clear how much effort went into this. Well done.

    • @godsinbox
      @godsinbox 3 роки тому +2

      yeah! having to include the BMW in every video makes me wonder if it is a tax write off