I want to make sure that the perspective in which I made the video is justified. 1. The invoice they gave was lesser than the amount I paid. This is the first vehicle I have ever purchased. So, when I came across this issue, I verified it. I checked with my friends who bought from TVS, Honda, Enfield in the same month. NONE of them faced the issue. Everything was perfect in their bill. Then I checked with the showroom where I did not get any proper response. Then I googled up reg. this issue and found that BMW does this for all their vehicles. I did not have the time, money energy to file a case and fight. Moreover, at that point I got paid the full amount and got the bike, If I had known about this issue earlier, I would not have bought this!! That is why I made this video so that it may help someone. 2. Rusting: Rusting is common bro. I agree. I have the hero honda bike standing next to the BMW. It’s 10 years old. The BMW bike’s disk alone is having a lot more rust than the whole Hero bike’s rust put together. I would not have felt bad it started rusting after 2 years but it started rusting just after a few months itself which is not acceptable. I in-fact take more care since its costly. All bikes rust, but not so soon as the cheap BMW 310 series bikes. 3. The battery issue is legit and is the most irritating one. It did not start a week ago again (after the video was made). The battery became weak, I guess. I changed the headlight to LED 2 days back so that it consumes less power. 4. Warranty: No bike covers warranty for plastic body, true! The showroom guy told me even electrical is not covered to me (Maybe I am wrong). BUT, My point is they have reduced the price by a lot than the previous BMW G310R. Which is they have used much more low-quality parts in-order to reduce the cost. I am sure those money-sucking monsters did not compromise on their profit. So, first edition bike itself already has so many problems, adding to that they are using poor quality parts to reduce cost. Then Imagine how much problems the user will face if they buy the bike. Only the engine is good, rest all is shitty. Just a hypothesis, even TVS purposely makes the BMW-TVS bikes shitty so that their competitor TVS RR310 is more successful then the G310R. The fact is, RR310 is better in every way. 5. Service: 10k Kms, seriously? You just said that the fork seal breaks because of the dusty Indian road conditions. So, what about the other parts? Every part needs to be maintained for 3000 Kms. They will tell 10K km because they need to keep up their brand name as same as their high-end bikes. Truth is every bike needs to be serviced based on the environmental conditions. My point is, it is not worth doing it in BMW for 8k-10k Rupees. All they do is change engine oil, clean chain, lube it, check brakes, and wash the bike. It will only cost you 2-3k if done outside in small shops. I did it myself. 6. As mentioned, bikes are facing more issues just after service with BMW. Fork seal: This is true. Happens to most bikes like KTM due to dust. I just envy TVS RR310 which uses the same engine, same inverted forks and does not create a single problem. The forks are covered and protected by the bike’s body and it did not create any issue. It is a well-engineered bike. Why would I pay 1 lakh more to get BMW when I can get a much better bike for a lot (LOT) less? I did not know this when I bought the bike 2 years ago. TVS is doing amazing! Bro, this is not against you. I wanted to make my facts right. No offence. I learned a lot from you. I appreciate the time you have taken to observe. Thank you. Consider subscribing if this has helped you! UA-cam Channel: Common Man Tech ua-cam.com/video/fwIbqac-B0o/v-deo.html
@@dr_kisna I would like to put my points I am also confused between two bikes I have driven KTM 390 adv for 400km one day ride. 1. Power is good. 2. Seat will start fucking you from bottom after 40km of journey. Seat comfort - zero. 3. I tried air seat as well , it does not work as expected, you as will slip from air seat when you will apply break, then again you need to slide back, how many times you will do this 4. Road presence is good on higher speed(above 100kmph). 5. Have good electronics, but I feel rider should handle bike without electronics, though ABS is very necessary, and both bikes have ABS. I have driven BMW for 100km ride 1. Seat is very soft , pillion didn't even felt small pot holes, midum potholes very also not that much noticeable. 2. Driving comfort is very good 3. Road presence is also good on higher speed. 4. Have low electronics as compared to KTM adv but riding was fun. Most imp Its about you and your pillion If pillion is not comfortable then you will need to take stops at every 30-40 kms. And on long rides you should be happy and comfortable to reach your destination without pain in ass. Else you will end up in frustration at your destination. Last but not least You should choose bike which will help you for munching more miles 😄
I bought G310R in Sep'2019. Since then it's a mess. I keep on facing new issues every now and then. Alternator, Starter Motor, Battery, Oil pump, Ignition Coil everything has been changed, but no luck. My bike stalls abruptly while riding and now it's lying in my garage like a garbage!
My bike is 2.8 years old and the only problem I can relate to is the alternator and battery issue, Mine died after 2 years. The warranty is for 2 years and unfortunately there was lockdown in Mumbai so I was able to take the bike to work shop only after 2 months post warranty. Navnit motors and BMW replaced my battery under warranty. There is no rusting issue on my bike even though I am based in Mumbai which has lot of rains and close to the sea. I had a KTM duke 200 before buying and I tried the KTM Duke 250 before buying G310R and the ride quality of BM is very comfortable compared to the KTM. It is unfortunate that you are facing so much issues
Hi bro! I have some doubts! So firstly the 3.67 lakhs price is with the road tax insurance bike registration and other charges, the bike ex-showroom price is what they have put in the bill I guess. The next thing is rusting issue, I own a R15 V2 for the past 5 years and I too live in Chennai and some of my friends have ktm duke 200, 250, 390 and R15 v3 as well. My observation is all the bikes have good amount of rust on the disc on the frame and small joints and nuts and bolts as well. This is a common issue in all the bikes since we live near the seashore. Apart from that the battery issue I'm not aware of it, maybe it might be a genuine problem with G310R, but again the warranty does not cover plastic and rubber parts in all the other manufacturers such as ktm, yamaha, Bajaj as well. I have heard the electronics are covered in warranty by BMW cauz one of mutual friends had a headlamp problem which he got it changed for free ( I just verified it now). Finally the service, G310r has a service interval of 10k kms or 1 year so the price will be around 8k -10k, but I kinda feel that's fine cauz my R15 should be serviced every 3k kms and the service charge will be 2-3k so end of the day it comes around atleast 8k for 10k kms. So finally the fork seal issue, 6 out 10 ktm's have the exact same issue and it is not specific to KTM, but to upside down forks in india. USD forks tends to break the seal in dusty environment. It's jus a rubber seal and since it's facing downwards to the road every bike with USD forks have the exact same issue. No offense at all! Just my observation. Sorry if I'm wrong!✌🏽
Hi bro, Sorry for the delayed response. I want to make it clear that I am not against your statements, I want to make sure that the perspective in which I made the video is justified. 1. The invoice they gave was lesser that than the amount I paid. This is the first vehicle I have ever purchased. So, when I came across this issue, I verified it. I checked with my friends who bought from TVS, Honda, Enfield in the same month. NONE of them faced the issue. Everything was perfect in their bill. Then I checked with the showroom where I did not get any proper response. Then I googled up reg. this issue and found that BMW does this for all their vehicles. I did not have the time, money energy to file a case and fight. Moreover, at that point I got paid the full amount and got the bike, If I had known about this issue earlier, I would not have bought this!! That is why I made this video so that it may help someone. 2. Rusting: Rusting is common bro. I agree. I have the hero honda bike standing next to the BMW. It’s 10 years old. The BMW bike’s disk alone is having a lot more rust than the whole Hero bike’s rust put together. I would not have felt bad it started rusting after 2 years but it started rusting just after a few months itself which is not acceptable. I in-fact take more care since its costly. All bikes rust, but not so soon as the cheap BMW 310 series bikes. 3. Battery issue is legit and is the most irritating one. It did not start a week ago again (after the video was made). Battery became weak, I guess. I changed the headlight to LED 2 days back so that it consumes less power. 4. Warranty: No bike covers warranty for plastic body, true! The showroom guy told me even electrical is not covered to me (Maybe I am wrong). BUT, my point is they have reduced the price by a lot than the previous BMW G310R. Which is they have used much more low-quality parts in-order to reduce the cost. I am sure those money sucking monsters did not compromise on their profit. So, first edition bike itself already has so many problems, adding to that they are using poor quality parts to reduce cost. Then Imagine how much problems the user will face if they buy the bike. Only engine is good man, rest all is shitty products. Just a hypothesis, even TVS purposely makes the BMW-TVS bikes shitty so that their competitor TVS RR310 is more successful then the G310R. The fact is, RR310 is better in every way. 5. Service: 10k Kms, seriously? You just said that the fork seal breaks because of the dusty Indian road conditions. So, what about the other parts? Every part needs to be maintained for 3000 Kms. They will tell 10K kms because they need to keep up their brand name as same as their high-end bikes. Truth is every bike needs to be serviced based on the environmental conditions. My point is, it is not worth doing it in BMW for 8k-10k Rupees. All they do is change engine oil, clean chain, lube it, check brakes, and wash the bike. It will only cost you 2-3k if done outside in small shops. I did it myself. As mentioned, bikes are facing more issues just after service with BMW. 6. Fork seal: This is true. Happens to most bikes like KTM due to dust. I just envy TVS RR310 which uses the same engine, same inverted forks and does not create a single problem. The forks are covered and protected by the bike’s body and it did not create any issue. It is a well-engineered bike. Why would I pay 1 lakh more to get BMW when I can get a much better bike for a lot (LOT) less? I did not know this when I bought the bike 2 years ago. TVS is doing amazing! Bro, this is not against you. I wanted to make my facts right. No offence. I learned a lot from you. I appreciate the time you have taken to observe. Thank you. Consider subscribing if this has helped you!
A few things are manufacturing defects as per my observation. RR310, G310R & G310GS has this specific leak from left fork, something messed up from assembly line. Loose connection of headlight somewhere under tank area. These issues got fixed free except for fork oil cost which they claimed to be consumable. Quality of material used in chain and disc is not that great, its rusts if unused for some time. The headlight of GS is so powerful that one can feel the heat standing 1m in front of it. It has not killed my battery yet, but I have to keep an eye on battery getting weak.
Buying BMW in India can never be a practical decision as buying BMW was and is all about it's logo and show off but considering the purpose and rationale it's a big no and BMW is one of the least reliable motorcycle brands in the world! If you want the best just prefer either Honda, Yamaha or Suzuki in higher segment! 👍
Your problem is nothing when you compare with my 390adv it suddenly stops when u deaccelerate in 3,4,5 gears the engine cuts of and that ruins all the sheer driving experience ..
Bro u am planning to buy this bike bro pleleee say me is this bike really not good pleader say me bro I need information from u as u have replied for everyone comment
Bro really want to buy the G 310 r, picking it over the Duke 390? What do u suggest..I tool a test ride and loved the BMW but after this video m really skeptical..ur honest advice pls
His bike is bs4 that's why it had many problems the bs6 one is just so good my friend owns it from past 1 year and it is still in good condition and is fun to ride
@@vedantmehra6970 Simple if you want raw power go for ninja it's an absolute beast and if you want comfort,ride quality,refinement and brand value with enough power go for g310r
I know bro, I mentioned in the video. I didn't file a case but someone else did it. Finally, BMW said they'll refund the whole amount and told that person to go for some other brand. If you want BMW product you've to listen to all their bullshit rules. Consider subscribing if this has helped you bro
You haven't reached out to BMW service centres for any issues or service and you are claiming directly not to buy this bike. If you had made multiple visits & still the issue isn't resolved, we can go with your statements. Also the same version is being exported all around the world & haven't seen such negative reviews. I'm still going to buy 310gs and its not gonna change my mind. Just waiting for the Triumph to launch their 300 cc segment.
Dude was this your first bike cause, the discrepancy of amount you are talking about is your insurance money road tax and all , your insurance bill is mentioned in your insurance copy qnd rto will provide you their bill dealers cannot provide that regardless you buy BMW bike or a rolls royce car.
Dude, all my friends bought bike in the same period. TVS, Honda, enfield. They did not face this problem. Why am I facing? And I obviously tried to tally it in every possible way. It's not like I see a problem, let's make a video of it. I don't work like that. If this is such a simple problem, why didn't none of the people in the showroom told this. I don't buy the bike yesterday and post the video today. It's been 2 years!! Think!
Plz tell compatible battery for this bike apart from stock... The stock is damn expensive... Plz suggest excide or amron battery model no to be used with g310r
Hi bro. Im also from chennai. I bought g310r by 2018. Only issue i face it a rattling sound at 6000 to 7500 rpm. Its smooth otherwise. I usually do a checkup every month because i travel 80km per day. Half of the time i wont even be charged for some issues. 2019 and 2020 was the worst year for service that i faced. Faced so many issues all over the bike. But i just got my bike from 3rd year service. The service has been done perfectly. Many service engineers have been replaced now. I suggest you to give a try one more time and have a conversation with the service engineer. you may get it fixed. Vantha mala pona mayiru nu try panni paarunga bro one last time
Hi bro. Na edukalam nu iruken 3 lakhs enoda budget. Bmw g310r ah ila Interceptor ah nu confusion la iruken. Long distance and city comfort pakren. Could you please tell me which one is worth if we consider maintenance cost also...
Bro I Am Planning To Buy A Second Hand August 2018 Bike Running 2500KM Done...IsIs Worth And I Have Heard There Is Some Technical Issues Of Sound Coming After 5000 -6000K.M Please Guide 🙏
Taking bike on loan & not making the payment in cash must be better as the bank will demand transparency & all the jurisdiction will be bank headaches.
My younger brother bought this bike on Feb 17th 2022 and we just finished the 2nd service... We stood at the service centre while doing the service and they literally just changed the oil and filters, did chain lube and adjusted it and washed the bike and charged us 9k.. also he has been facing the battery drain issue since it was new and we had to call RSA 6 times so far... He is so frustrated with the bike that he is scared to take it on a long ride thinking he will get stranded.... Absolutely lousy experience and I will advise don't get this bike even if you get it for free
RE has similar or worse than this in service. Their service centers dont care about the vehicle & after service is worst & they rob our money, low quality service. And the company pays no attention to customer complaints.
KTM is a better option. KTM 390 Adventure is best your money can get. The safety features it has can be compared to bikes costing above 10 Lacs and more. it is a fully loaded bike.
Advance booking amount is fully refundable bro. With no questions asked they have to refund it back to you. Let me know if you face any issue with them. Consider subscribing if this has helped you. Thank you!❣️
Bhai new bs6 model also have same problem. I was willing to buy it new g310r ,why don't u make a test drive review on new bs6 310r and upload it would be great help🙏.
Yeah bro, the new one is exactly the same bike with different engine, led and that clutch lever. So you'll definitely have the same problems. In just a test ride, we can't find the problems bro. I found my bike problems after using it for 3 months. Many UA-camrs have already done that bro. Chumma took the bike for 1 round and talk about it won't help at all. They are doing it for views. I don't want to do that.
The show room people are shity sales people they will say anything to sell you a bike and loot you , friend bought a Jupiter they changed down payment amount 3 times and interest rates 2 times , utimately had to pay 4000 more . But if the bike itself has deffects it's a whole different story
@@TejSandhu007 bilkul sahi kiya bhai wo isliye chapri bolte hai kyuki , aaj kl kuch ladke jo aawara type hairstyle rakhtey hai wo jada chalarey hai but bike is no. One
Apart from the cosmetic look. Perfomance and feature wise Duke 390 bs6, is an absolute winner here. Even spare part cost and long term running cost will be more economical with Duke.
The problem which i see here for entry line bikes, but other brand like KTM,YAMAHA,tvs etc does in india. its not the problem with the company, its problem with mind set in india we have related to big brand specially the dealers part .company never says take this , that charges from customer , there price is fixed, it has to rely on local distributors, what they say and how they sell distributor decides in india. Now the servicing part , here are the few experience even i had : - if you own the flag ship bike from BMW , they will treat you like special and servicing is really effort less , they provide doorstep service , this is same for sports brands like Kawasaki, Triumph, Benelli , BMW etc - for entry line bikes, they don't except the KTM,YAMAHA honda, tvs which are very good in india. now here is the conclusion , if you every buy BIG bIkes from these(KTM,YAMAHA HONDA) good brand which have good service for entry level bikes, but for BIG BIKES like R1, R6, RC1299, there service is almost pathetic in most of the states parts are really hard to find and serviceability is struggle. All in all , if you are looking for a BIKE for daily commute and care about expenses buy from trusted general brand bike few are KTM, YAMAHA ,HONDA, TVS,BAJAJ etc basic brands which will fruitful in long run. Now if you are looking for Luxury , top of the line and have a deep pocket then try brands like Triumph, BMW , KAWASAKI DUCATI etc. all in all it just has a BMW brand but not the quality control which top of the line bike, in the same segment can give you.
Yamaha 250 , ktm duke250 or suzuki Gixxer 250 would be better purchase compared to bmw g310 cz all the vehicles d single cylinders only rest 250 cc maintanence cost is low but bmw g310 r quote very high
I have BS6 G310GS , Battery issue that you mentioned came at 3000km @ 4th month and replaced it on warranty, and handling a charge of 7k while delivery.
@@debarghyachattopadhyay2614 No... battery replacement is under warrenty only... mentioned 7k is amount I paid for the bike along with total amount as a part of handling fee or something.
Bro even I have the same bike 2020 BS6 model it's been with me for 2 months and I haven't faced any problem I don't know why. My personal choice is that it's a great bike 👍 good and excellent bike . I am not saying anything bad about the person who made this video may be they have faced it but I haven't it (my bike is a BS6 model😊)🤞
Too bad... I was starting to love this motorbike... But never knew there was this other side of unreliability. I also found some clues of issues on other top vloggers' videos and a further search led me to this video. All these days i thought was after all it's a bmw and doesn't cause issues. Thank you so much for the video bro. Sorry about the unfortunate events you faced. I think I'll prefer other brands or a second hand one and do repairs on it by people whom i trust... Do you still have the motorbike or sold it afterwards?
This is not going to be on 2020 model idiot because it is assembled by tvs in India and no handling charges will be applied. And this happens to the coustomer like you only and only few of the dealer's are like this because they don't want to pay tax.🙏
@@arunidiot1321 ithu na recommend panna matan bro. Alternative options I prefer is TVS RR310 DUKE 390/250 Even Gixxer is awesome If this has helped you consider subscribing.
Kerala too bro. High price for everything. I bought an hf deluxe few months back and costed me 87k. Whereas in other states it's 10-15k less on road (or maybe even more less)
Idiotic views don't listen to it this bikes gets cheaper because now its assembled in India not that cheap part's are in being used. Unlike you seems very much cheap mindset because you don't earn this bike because it's gifted😎
Bruh , this is with all BIG CORPORATE companies ! There are similar issues which have been out in open about brands like Kawasaki & Triumph , even Benelli etc !! If they are not doing all this 'thievery' , how the hell big companies & their outlets/Dealers gonna make money !! All by products of Capitalism my fraand , can't help it !! But good to know your experience !!!
Totally agreed bro. But as a common man, I expected and trusted the company for the brand value. Putting in more money, my only expectation was quality which is totally not there. The idea of more money (big brand) = more quality is worng. I wanted to share the experience to help ppl who also think like me. If this has helped you, consider subscribing. Thank you!❣️
@@CommonManTech bro it’s your mistake…..I have g310r from 2019 and it still look new because I always take my bike to bmw service centre ….some issues occur but they fix them for free apart from service charge them take
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I want to make sure that the perspective in which I made the video is justified.
1. The invoice they gave was lesser than the amount I paid. This is the first vehicle I have ever purchased. So, when I came across this issue, I verified it. I checked with my friends who bought from TVS, Honda, Enfield in the same month. NONE of them faced the issue. Everything was perfect in their bill. Then I checked with the showroom where I did not get any proper response. Then I googled up reg. this issue and found that BMW does this for all their vehicles. I did not have the time, money energy to file a case and fight. Moreover, at that point I got paid the full amount and got the bike, If I had known about this issue earlier, I would not have bought this!! That is why I made this video so that it may help someone.
2. Rusting: Rusting is common bro. I agree. I have the hero honda bike standing next to the BMW. It’s 10 years old. The BMW bike’s disk alone is having a lot more rust than the whole Hero bike’s rust put together. I would not have felt bad it started rusting after 2 years but it started rusting just after a few months itself which is not acceptable. I in-fact take more care since its costly. All bikes rust, but not so soon as the cheap BMW 310 series bikes.
3. The battery issue is legit and is the most irritating one. It did not start a week ago again (after the video was made). The battery became weak, I guess. I changed the headlight to LED 2 days back so that it consumes less power.
4. Warranty: No bike covers warranty for plastic body, true! The showroom guy told me even electrical is not covered to me (Maybe I am wrong). BUT,
My point is they have reduced the price by a lot than the previous BMW G310R. Which is they have used much more low-quality parts in-order to reduce the cost. I am sure those money-sucking monsters did not compromise on their profit. So, first edition bike itself already has so many problems, adding to that they are using poor quality parts to reduce cost. Then Imagine how much problems the user will face if they buy the bike. Only the engine is good, rest all is shitty.
Just a hypothesis, even TVS purposely makes the BMW-TVS bikes shitty so that their competitor TVS RR310 is more successful then the G310R. The fact is, RR310 is better in every way.
5. Service: 10k Kms, seriously?
You just said that the fork seal breaks because of the dusty Indian road conditions. So, what about the other parts? Every part needs to be maintained for 3000 Kms. They will tell 10K km because they need to keep up their brand name as same as their high-end bikes. Truth is every bike needs to be serviced based on the environmental conditions.
My point is, it is not worth doing it in BMW for 8k-10k Rupees. All they do is change engine oil, clean chain, lube it, check brakes, and wash the bike. It will only cost you 2-3k if done outside in small shops. I did it myself.
6. As mentioned, bikes are facing more issues just after service with BMW.
Fork seal: This is true. Happens to most bikes like KTM due to dust. I just envy TVS RR310 which uses the same engine, same inverted forks and does not create a single problem. The forks are covered and protected by the bike’s body and it did not create any issue. It is a well-engineered bike. Why would I pay 1 lakh more to get BMW when I can get a much better bike for a lot (LOT) less?
I did not know this when I bought the bike 2 years ago. TVS is doing amazing!
Bro, this is not against you. I wanted to make my facts right. No offence. I learned a lot from you. I appreciate the time you have taken to observe. Thank you.
Consider subscribing if this has helped you!
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I'm using the same bike for past 1 year I don't get any of those problems what u hav said
Come on the bike what you bought is not made by BMW. It's TVS. Tough it's a TVS. It will show it's own quality.
New model is good bro
Does it have hazard bike
I'm sorry. I bought the G310R and it is great.
When u bought the bike?
Is it still good?
are you from china
Golden lines: buy the costliest bike from some other brand, they will treat you well than bmw !
Made my day. Thanks
@@CommonManTech thanks, I was looking for either g310 gs bs6 or 390 adventure... now I am more inclined towards 390adv !
So true tho !!
@@dr_kisna go for 390 adv personal experience
@@dr_kisna
I would like to put my points
I am also confused between two bikes
I have driven KTM 390 adv for 400km one day ride.
1. Power is good.
2. Seat will start fucking you from bottom after 40km of journey. Seat comfort - zero.
3. I tried air seat as well , it does not work as expected, you as will slip from air seat when you will apply break, then again you need to slide back, how many times you will do this
4. Road presence is good on higher speed(above 100kmph).
5. Have good electronics, but I feel rider should handle bike without electronics, though ABS is very necessary, and both bikes have ABS.
I have driven BMW for 100km ride
1. Seat is very soft , pillion didn't even felt small pot holes, midum potholes very also not that much noticeable.
2. Driving comfort is very good
3. Road presence is also good on higher speed.
4. Have low electronics as compared to KTM adv but riding was fun.
Most imp
Its about you and your pillion
If pillion is not comfortable then you will need to take stops at every 30-40 kms.
And on long rides you should be happy and comfortable to reach your destination without pain in ass.
Else you will end up in frustration at your destination.
Last but not least
You should choose bike which will help you for munching more miles 😄
I bought G310R in Sep'2019. Since then it's a mess. I keep on facing new issues every now and then. Alternator, Starter Motor, Battery, Oil pump, Ignition Coil everything has been changed, but no luck. My bike stalls abruptly while riding and now it's lying in my garage like a garbage!
Don't give service in showroom. Give to trusted mechanic for specific problem. Stay and get the bike back.
My bike is 2.8 years old and the only problem I can relate to is the alternator and battery issue, Mine died after 2 years. The warranty is for 2 years and unfortunately there was lockdown in Mumbai so I was able to take the bike to work shop only after 2 months post warranty. Navnit motors and BMW replaced my battery under warranty. There is no rusting issue on my bike even though I am based in Mumbai which has lot of rains and close to the sea. I had a KTM duke 200 before buying and I tried the KTM Duke 250 before buying G310R and the ride quality of BM is very comfortable compared to the KTM. It is unfortunate that you are facing so much issues
As far as I understand this is a problem with the local dealer not with the BMW brand.
Bike also has problems
@@CommonManTech what problems???
@@DL6UK 🙄 the video is about that bro
Because u did not take it too the bmw showroom 😒
@@alphamusic8797 wow bro!
Hi bro! I have some doubts! So firstly the 3.67 lakhs price is with the road tax insurance bike registration and other charges, the bike ex-showroom price is what they have put in the bill I guess. The next thing is rusting issue, I own a R15 V2 for the past 5 years and I too live in Chennai and some of my friends have ktm duke 200, 250, 390 and R15 v3 as well. My observation is all the bikes have good amount of rust on the disc on the frame and small joints and nuts and bolts as well. This is a common issue in all the bikes since we live near the seashore. Apart from that the battery issue I'm not aware of it, maybe it might be a genuine problem with G310R, but again the warranty does not cover plastic and rubber parts in all the other manufacturers such as ktm, yamaha, Bajaj as well. I have heard the electronics are covered in warranty by BMW cauz one of mutual friends had a headlamp problem which he got it changed for free ( I just verified it now). Finally the service, G310r has a service interval of 10k kms or 1 year so the price will be around 8k -10k, but I kinda feel that's fine cauz my R15 should be serviced every 3k kms and the service charge will be 2-3k so end of the day it comes around atleast 8k for 10k kms. So finally the fork seal issue, 6 out 10 ktm's have the exact same issue and it is not specific to KTM, but to upside down forks in india. USD forks tends to break the seal in dusty environment. It's jus a rubber seal and since it's facing downwards to the road every bike with USD forks have the exact same issue. No offense at all! Just my observation. Sorry if I'm wrong!✌🏽
True facts bro!
Hey bro, I'll get back to you on this on my weekly off.
Hi bro,
Sorry for the delayed response.
I want to make it clear that I am not against your statements, I want to make sure that the perspective in which I made the video is justified.
1. The invoice they gave was lesser that than the amount I paid. This is the first vehicle I have ever purchased. So, when I came across this issue, I verified it. I checked with my friends who bought from TVS, Honda, Enfield in the same month. NONE of them faced the issue. Everything was perfect in their bill. Then I checked with the showroom where I did not get any proper response. Then I googled up reg. this issue and found that BMW does this for all their vehicles. I did not have the time, money energy to file a case and fight. Moreover, at that point I got paid the full amount and got the bike, If I had known about this issue earlier, I would not have bought this!! That is why I made this video so that it may help someone.
2. Rusting:
Rusting is common bro. I agree. I have the hero honda bike standing next to the BMW. It’s 10 years old. The BMW bike’s disk alone is having a lot more rust than the whole Hero bike’s rust put together. I would not have felt bad it started rusting after 2 years but it started rusting just after a few months itself which is not acceptable. I in-fact take more care since its costly. All bikes rust, but not so soon as the cheap BMW 310 series bikes.
3. Battery issue is legit and is the most irritating one. It did not start a week ago again (after the video was made). Battery became weak, I guess. I changed the headlight to LED 2 days back so that it consumes less power.
4. Warranty: No bike covers warranty for plastic body, true! The showroom guy told me even electrical is not covered to me (Maybe I am wrong). BUT,
my point is they have reduced the price by a lot than the previous BMW G310R. Which is they have used much more low-quality parts in-order to reduce the cost. I am sure those money sucking monsters did not compromise on their profit. So, first edition bike itself already has so many problems, adding to that they are using poor quality parts to reduce cost. Then Imagine how much problems the user will face if they buy the bike. Only engine is good man, rest all is shitty products.
Just a hypothesis, even TVS purposely makes the BMW-TVS bikes shitty so that their competitor TVS RR310 is more successful then the G310R.
The fact is, RR310 is better in every way.
5. Service: 10k Kms, seriously?
You just said that the fork seal breaks because of the dusty Indian road conditions. So, what about the other parts? Every part needs to be maintained for 3000 Kms. They will tell 10K kms because they need to keep up their brand name as same as their high-end bikes. Truth is every bike needs to be serviced based on the environmental conditions.
My point is, it is not worth doing it in BMW for 8k-10k Rupees. All they do is change engine oil, clean chain, lube it, check brakes, and wash the bike. It will only cost you 2-3k if done outside in small shops. I did it myself.
As mentioned, bikes are facing more issues just after service with BMW.
6. Fork seal: This is true. Happens to most bikes like KTM due to dust. I just envy TVS RR310 which uses the same engine, same inverted forks and does not create a single problem. The forks are covered and protected by the bike’s body and it did not create any issue. It is a well-engineered bike. Why would I pay 1 lakh more to get BMW when I can get a much better bike for a lot (LOT) less?
I did not know this when I bought the bike 2 years ago. TVS is doing amazing!
Bro, this is not against you. I wanted to make my facts right. No offence. I learned a lot from you. I appreciate the time you have taken to observe. Thank you.
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A few things are manufacturing defects as per my observation.
RR310, G310R & G310GS has this specific leak from left fork, something messed up from assembly line.
Loose connection of headlight somewhere under tank area. These issues got fixed free except for fork oil cost which they claimed to be consumable.
Quality of material used in chain and disc is not that great, its rusts if unused for some time.
The headlight of GS is so powerful that one can feel the heat standing 1m in front of it. It has not killed my battery yet, but I have to keep an eye on battery getting weak.
you did a great job of explaining
Is BMW 310 r 2019 model, bs4 a good buy for second hand purchase ??? I am getting it for around 1.65lakh. plz reply
Buying BMW in India can never be a practical decision as buying BMW was and is all about it's logo and show off but considering the purpose and rationale it's a big no and BMW is one of the least reliable motorcycle brands in the world! If you want the best just prefer either Honda, Yamaha or Suzuki in higher segment! 👍
I was one step away from buying this bike,now It looks like I have to think twice
THNAK YOU FOR THE VIDEO , LUCKILY I GOT THIS .. I WAS ABOUT TO BOOK THE BIKE NEXT WEEK :-) 310R
M using bs6 variant of 310r. It is getting 2 months old with 1500 km. I don't know what will happen on future. Till now, feels ok
I'm happy if it's fine.
Bhai service cost ketna aata hay?
@@maheshmeena99 6150
@@sebastianthomas1239 i want to buy & should i buy it
@@lordkrishna179 you can buy
so these problems were solved in BS6 G310R? or still it's having same type of issues. Because I'm planning to buy it..
Mine isn't giving any problems
I love mine, 5 years with no issues. But thanks!.
Is this TVs engine?
Your problem is nothing when you compare with my 390adv it suddenly stops when u deaccelerate in 3,4,5 gears the engine cuts of and that ruins all the sheer driving experience ..
My god but the problems I listed occurred in all bikes. ALL!
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Bro u am planning to buy this bike bro pleleee say me is this bike really not good pleader say me bro I need information from u as u have replied for everyone comment
From which state are you bro ?
TN bro
Bro...in TN which district you brought the bike??
Chennai, I believe there is only one motarrad sales in each state. Not very sure.
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Coimbatore la iruku bro onnu
@@CommonManTech in TN, there are 3, chennai, coimbatore & madurai.
Bro really want to buy the G 310 r, picking it over the Duke 390? What do u suggest..I tool a test ride and loved the BMW but after this video m really skeptical..ur honest advice pls
Did you buy it?
His bike is bs4 that's why it had many problems the bs6 one is just so good my friend owns it from past 1 year and it is still in good condition and is fun to ride
@@stefansalvatore8991 m confused between the G 310 or the ninja 300
@@vedantmehra6970 Simple if you want raw power go for ninja it's an absolute beast and if you want comfort,ride quality,refinement and brand value with enough power go for g310r
Thx brother I changed my mind now not buying this bike
Can you suggest any other bikes in 2 to 2.8 lakhs price range
U can go for dominar 400
ninja 300
@@Hsp44 I am checking
@@georgevthomas7602 or you should get the new g310r most of the issues are resolved you should watch other videos too
@@Hsp44 I know bro I test drive it yesterday in the showroom I am confused between bmw abs Kawasaki
Bro are you a fool or what... Don't you know handling charge is illegal.. Put a case on this you will get refund..
I know bro, I mentioned in the video. I didn't file a case but someone else did it. Finally, BMW said they'll refund the whole amount and told that person to go for some other brand.
If you want BMW product you've to listen to all their bullshit rules.
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@@CommonManTech ok bro.. Thanks for replying 👳
You haven't reached out to BMW service centres for any issues or service and you are claiming directly not to buy this bike. If you had made multiple visits & still the issue isn't resolved, we can go with your statements. Also the same version is being exported all around the world & haven't seen such negative reviews. I'm still going to buy 310gs and its not gonna change my mind. Just waiting for the Triumph to launch their 300 cc segment.
I visited recently. No use
Yeah I also own this bike but no issues faced till now
Thanks a lot for the genuine review bro
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Dude was this your first bike cause, the discrepancy of amount you are talking about is your insurance money road tax and all , your insurance bill is mentioned in your insurance copy qnd rto will provide you their bill dealers cannot provide that regardless you buy BMW bike or a rolls royce car.
Dude, all my friends bought bike in the same period. TVS, Honda, enfield. They did not face this problem. Why am I facing?
And I obviously tried to tally it in every possible way. It's not like I see a problem, let's make a video of it. I don't work like that.
If this is such a simple problem, why didn't none of the people in the showroom told this.
I don't buy the bike yesterday and post the video today. It's been 2 years!!
Think!
Excellent brother, perfectly you had given us a very good information. Done a great work. Thank you.
Thank you bro!!
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Plz tell compatible battery for this bike apart from stock... The stock is damn expensive... Plz suggest excide or amron battery model no to be used with g310r
Bro, try RR310 battery.
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@@CommonManTech Can you tell me the model number of rr310 battery and company name?
@@princekatiyarptm I'm not sure bro. You can call up TVS spares/service and ask.
I get all parts for my bike from there. Haven't tried battery yet
@@CommonManTech Ok
Bhai bmw g310r bs6 mein racefit exhaust lag sakta hai
I am planning to buy gs310 .. 😒😔..but this much negative experience 🙄
Hi bro. Im also from chennai. I bought g310r by 2018. Only issue i face it a rattling sound at 6000 to 7500 rpm. Its smooth otherwise. I usually do a checkup every month because i travel 80km per day. Half of the time i wont even be charged for some issues. 2019 and 2020 was the worst year for service that i faced. Faced so many issues all over the bike. But i just got my bike from 3rd year service. The service has been done perfectly. Many service engineers have been replaced now. I suggest you to give a try one more time and have a conversation with the service engineer. you may get it fixed. Vantha mala pona mayiru nu try panni paarunga bro one last time
I service it outside bro. Not going to BMW
But thank you ❤️
Hi bro. Na edukalam nu iruken 3 lakhs enoda budget. Bmw g310r ah ila Interceptor ah nu confusion la iruken. Long distance and city comfort pakren. Could you please tell me which one is worth if we consider maintenance cost also...
@@shyamsundar5004 interceptor bro. if you compare both bikes. best in 3L budget.
Bro I Am Planning To Buy A Second Hand August 2018 Bike Running 2500KM Done...IsIs Worth And I Have Heard There Is Some Technical Issues Of Sound Coming After 5000 -6000K.M Please Guide 🙏
So it's bad product?
Nope
Bro I planned to buy bmw 310 pls tell a good bike in bmw I change my mind plss tell
Their super bikes are good
Sir I'm facing battery issues. What should I do I am very frustrated battery issue please suggest something
They will replace if u r under warranty
Taking bike on loan & not making the payment in cash must be better as the bank will demand transparency & all the jurisdiction will be bank headaches.
From where you are getting oil filter and air filter?
TVs bro
Any service center
@@CommonManTech Thanks man.😊
Have u got any extra accessories?
No man
My younger brother bought this bike on Feb 17th 2022 and we just finished the 2nd service... We stood at the service centre while doing the service and they literally just changed the oil and filters, did chain lube and adjusted it and washed the bike and charged us 9k.. also he has been facing the battery drain issue since it was new and we had to call RSA 6 times so far... He is so frustrated with the bike that he is scared to take it on a long ride thinking he will get stranded.... Absolutely lousy experience and I will advise don't get this bike even if you get it for free
I understand. Hope the video helps others
RE has similar or worse than this in service. Their service centers dont care about the vehicle & after service is worst & they rob our money, low quality service. And the company pays no attention to customer complaints.
Horrible and misleading comments on the new bs6 version. Please research first!!!
Is this problem in bs6 model
I'm not sure bro. You need to do research. But it's the same bike with bs6 engine and adjustable clutch
Thanks for this information and video very useful 😃😃
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I was pretty much sure about buying the new 310gs, but now I think I should go for himalayan :) thanks
My friend is also getting Himalayan. Good one bro. Atb.
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himalyan also has some issues
@@Hsp44 some? A lot!
@@er404 yes but re is resolving them with every update
KTM is a better option.
KTM 390 Adventure is best your money can get. The safety features it has can be compared to bikes costing above 10 Lacs and more.
it is a fully loaded bike.
brother thanku soo much for your experience but now what should i do i already pay 50000 for advance booking .. now what to dooo...?
Advance booking amount is fully refundable bro. With no questions asked they have to refund it back to you.
Let me know if you face any issue with them.
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Thank you!❣️
Thank you bro
@@CommonManTech they told me 20k will not be refundable .
@@shirishjadav1725 ask them reason, advance is just to block the bike. If you don't want it, they've to refund full amount.
How much did it cost bro . Please tell🙏🙏
The bike?
Or service?
It's mentioned in the video itself bro
Even I have this bike but I did not faced any problem that u told ? And I service the bike regularly
Bro, I have a group of 60 people using the same bike who would agree with me.
@@CommonManTech ohk but I did not faced any problems with this bike it’s driven 20000 kilometres now
Bro is it bs6 model
This is Bs4. Only engine is the major change in bs6. Battery issue will continue
You indians drive your motorcycle like crazy. What do you expect. Yours is an isolated case. It's a great small bike.
Bhai new bs6 model also have same problem. I was willing to buy it new g310r ,why don't u make a test drive review on new bs6 310r and upload it would be great help🙏.
Yeah bro, the new one is exactly the same bike with different engine, led and that clutch lever. So you'll definitely have the same problems. In just a test ride, we can't find the problems bro. I found my bike problems after using it for 3 months.
Many UA-camrs have already done that bro. Chumma took the bike for 1 round and talk about it won't help at all. They are doing it for views. I don't want to do that.
Are you sure there is still the fork seal and battery problem in the bs6 model ? Can you please fgive me some reference . I mean which forum ?
Fork seal not there
Battery in a few bikes.
Performance has changed. Old is better in ride performance.
The show room people are shity sales people they will say anything to sell you a bike and loot you , friend bought a Jupiter they changed down payment amount 3 times and interest rates 2 times , utimately had to pay 4000 more . But if the bike itself has deffects it's a whole different story
Thak you for sharing your experience bro
I was about to buy a BMW G 310R
After seeing your video, i booked an RC 390
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Thank you
I also want to buy rc390 but everyone say it’s a chapri bike 😢
@@TejSandhu007 bilkul sahi kiya bhai wo isliye chapri bolte hai kyuki , aaj kl kuch ladke jo aawara type hairstyle rakhtey hai wo jada chalarey hai but bike is no. One
Rust every bike will have 😂..... U need to maintain it and single cylinder bikes vibrate....... Hence a powerful bike needs maintenance 🙄
Thanx bhai.... Your feedback was very helpful..god bless u
Good review, why are you still using this bike. Just checking.
What do you expect me to do bro?
Resale value is so less. It's a loss for me if I do so
I am going with apache 310 rr tvs
Bro duke 390 bs6 or Bmw g310r bs6. Is mein se konsi best hai?? Please reply
bmw is perfectly fine
Bmw is more mature classi and looks more familiar and sassi at the same time while all duke looks like they are made for hell riders who wants to fly
390 has a better engine
So it will be faster than 310 but the looks bmw310 looks are.far more classy than ktm
Apart from the cosmetic look.
Perfomance and feature wise Duke 390 bs6, is an absolute winner here.
Even spare part cost and long term running cost will be more economical with Duke.
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You just changed my decision buying bmw g310 r
Eye opener I decided to book that bike tmw but after seeing your video I decided buy top model in other brand 👍
Best choice.
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which one did you buy?
The problem which i see here for entry line bikes, but other brand like KTM,YAMAHA,tvs etc does in india. its not the problem with the company, its problem with mind set in india we have related to big brand specially the dealers part .company never says take this , that charges from customer , there price is fixed, it has to rely on local distributors, what they say and how they sell distributor decides in india.
Now the servicing part , here are the few experience even i had :
- if you own the flag ship bike from BMW , they will treat you like special and servicing is really effort less , they provide doorstep service , this is same for sports brands like Kawasaki, Triumph, Benelli , BMW etc
- for entry line bikes, they don't except the KTM,YAMAHA honda, tvs which are very good in india.
now here is the conclusion , if you every buy BIG bIkes from these(KTM,YAMAHA HONDA) good brand which have good service for entry level bikes, but for BIG BIKES like R1, R6, RC1299, there service is almost pathetic in most of the states parts are really hard to find and serviceability is struggle.
All in all , if you are looking for a BIKE for daily commute and care about expenses buy from trusted general brand bike few are KTM, YAMAHA ,HONDA, TVS,BAJAJ etc basic brands which will fruitful in long run.
Now if you are looking for Luxury , top of the line and have a deep pocket then try brands like Triumph, BMW , KAWASAKI DUCATI etc.
all in all it just has a BMW brand but not the quality control which top of the line bike, in the same segment can give you.
Yeah , even i feel the same thanks mate.
Thank you so much ❤️ man. ,u just saved my life , took a bad decision, now I'm going for cbr
Bruh... cbr production stop panni 8 months mela aagudhu
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Its not The BMW. The dealer who is culprit . 🙄🙄
Yes.
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Call on toll free no.
Bmw has nothing to do with it. Its the dealership
BMW can hear our problems and change dealership.
Even after so many law cases they continue to do it.
Pointt
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Thanks for showing the correct face of BMW........
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Yamaha 250 , ktm duke250 or suzuki Gixxer 250 would be better purchase compared to bmw g310 cz all the vehicles d single cylinders only rest 250 cc maintanence cost is low but bmw g310 r quote very high
Just imagine bike rusts!!.. The bike has been built by TVS!!.. Shame on TVS-BMW..
It's assembled by tvs..
K Thambi i chose g310gs but now I will go to Himalayan
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I have BS6 G310GS , Battery issue that you mentioned came at 3000km @ 4th month and replaced it on warranty, and handling a charge of 7k while delivery.
It is common bro 😪
Stupid ppl never fixed anything in the bs6 model.
That's why I made the video
@P K yes but I got ledger for the paid amount .
My battery was also replaced on 6000 km under warranty.
You had to pay 7 k for battery change?
@@debarghyachattopadhyay2614 No... battery replacement is under warrenty only... mentioned 7k is amount I paid for the bike along with total amount as a part of handling fee or something.
Bro I have booked this bike 2020 version 🥺
Bro even I have the same bike 2020 BS6 model it's been with me for 2 months and I haven't faced any problem I don't know why. My personal choice is that it's a great bike 👍 good and excellent bike . I am not saying anything bad about the person who made this video may be they have faced it but I haven't it (my bike is a BS6 model😊)🤞
It's your wish bro. If you want you can change.
@@sanan_abi2027 In 2 months you won't find anything. Wait for some more time.
I'm happy if you don't face any problem.
@@sanan_abi2027 did u face the same payment problem?
Oh shit i was about to but now wont
I have a g310r and it’s the Best BEGINNER bike I’ve ever rode
Dropped my plan today unless I find a trusted mechanic to take care of my BMW
True...
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@@CommonManTech ok
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You should share some documents also to make a genuine statement
We can’t see rusting in video, vibration and heat issue measurement presentation.
Too bad... I was starting to love this motorbike... But never knew there was this other side of unreliability. I also found some clues of issues on other top vloggers' videos and a further search led me to this video. All these days i thought was after all it's a bmw and doesn't cause issues. Thank you so much for the video bro. Sorry about the unfortunate events you faced. I think I'll prefer other brands or a second hand one and do repairs on it by people whom i trust... Do you still have the motorbike or sold it afterwards?
I have it, I don't use it now
This is not going to be on 2020 model idiot because it is assembled by tvs in India and no handling charges will be applied. And this happens to the coustomer like you only and only few of the dealer's are like this because they don't want to pay tax.🙏
Chennai ah 😳
Ama bro
Nan intha bike edukalam nu pakkaren bro worth ah
Bike Nalla iruka bro or duke 250 ok va bro unga opinion Ena bro
@@arunidiot1321 ithu na recommend panna matan bro.
Alternative options I prefer is
TVS RR310
DUKE 390/250
Even Gixxer is awesome
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Ok bro
Handling charges!!! It’s called bribe 😂Report to consumer forum next time
damn on 2018 it cost around 360k you must be from tamil nadu there bike prices are rocket high
🥲ikr bro.
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Arey bhai iska price 55k drop hue tha 2021 mein.
Kerala too bro. High price for everything. I bought an hf deluxe few months back and costed me 87k. Whereas in other states it's 10-15k less on road (or maybe even more less)
After ordering it i just seen this video
It's okay. Let's hope for the best
Hima any updates? How much did you pay onroad? How were there service? Please let me know cause am planning to buy it
Brand name only, can not give you satisfaction bro........all things matters
Bro if u don’t take it to service for 2yrs obviously it will rust
It started rusting in 3 months after I bought
@@CommonManTech ohk
The extra cost is of Registration cost with RTO and tax paid to the RTO office
No, I did that separately. I registered with RTO to get G.O number. That cost is not included
Idiotic views don't listen to it this bikes gets cheaper because now its assembled in India not that cheap part's are in being used. Unlike you seems very much cheap mindset because you don't earn this bike because it's gifted😎
Sure Mr. Clever person. It was and is being assembled in hosur from 2018 by TVS. It was being shipped abroad from Hosur.
It is being assembled in India by 2020😂
@@KingShubham. no, you are wrong
Tqsm
I was about buy this machine
Simply because I didn't trust tvs
For Apache rr310
Ya I have the bs6 that’s why I guess
Bruh , this is with all BIG CORPORATE companies ! There are similar issues which have been out in open about brands like Kawasaki & Triumph , even Benelli etc !! If they are not doing all this 'thievery' , how the hell big companies & their outlets/Dealers gonna make money !! All by products of Capitalism my fraand , can't help it !! But good to know your experience !!!
Totally agreed bro.
But as a common man, I expected and trusted the company for the brand value.
Putting in more money, my only expectation was quality which is totally not there. The idea of more money (big brand) = more quality is worng. I wanted to share the experience to help ppl who also think like me.
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the company bmw never do this its the richest car company its related with the dealer you go to
We love BMW
I did too
BMW g310r worst servicing, don’t buy this bike
Thnkiu 🙏
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Bhai hume pata hai ye kudda bike hai.tvs is the best.
Donno hindi bruh
@bmw
this is a crappy bike
Scam
Yes.
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Get your bike serviced by bmw and then see the difference
If you buy a elephant be ready to spend like u own a elephant
Pls watch the video again.
I know a whole group of 75 ppl who did service at BMW.
They faced more issues than me (battery).
Then you guys should have filled a legal case against them
Its india bro.. small person can't every a pinch a hair to the money matter types person
@@CommonManTech bro it’s your mistake…..I have g310r from 2019 and it still look new because I always take my bike to bmw service centre ….some issues occur but they fix them for free apart from service charge them take