I feel so seen. Viashnavi - thank you. You are channeling the rage I cannot express, for my children’s sake. Thanks Stephanie for platforming such a giant of a woman.
In the data I've collected (the only in the world) on the experiences of trans widows, over 1/3 were s assaulted by husband, and also over 1/3 were ph assaulted. It is not safe to stay.
I love your work. And thank you for speaking out. Many of these trans individuals are playing it off that they are the heroes. They are coming out to spare you. I got down this rabbit hole when a trans activist persuaded the martial arts school I went to decided the women's division should be marginalized genders. And as I got to know him, I came to think, "there is no way this guy thinks that he's going to win anything in our division." And it was your material that put the pieces together. It was about a wider fantasy of the world seeing him as a woman. Winning was just secondary to that. And, in a way that makes it worse.
@@TheRisky9 Thanks! Oddly, my ex-husband, whom I call Neddy in my memoir, is a martial arts hobbyist. Of course, listed in the women's division. He's so enraged most of the time--I cannot imagine sparring with him.
@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals I think you've mentioned this before. This is exceptionally dangerous for the girls participating. The thing about women is we don't tend to complain. We just choose not to participate. and why complain when it leads to nothing but ridicule from trans rights groups.
But I think what cemented what you say a lot about trans identifying individuals is that we've had this women's category. And it was fine and all. But as soon as it was the "marginalized genders," suddenly there was talk of special training sessions. And tournaments. And outings. None of this was talked about when it was just the women's group. Not that I cared. I figured if you talk about women's only events, then why not men only and no one wants the backlash of doing a men's only event. Fair enough. But I found it interesting that we only talk about special marginalized genders events when narcissistic males got involved and called themselves women.
@@TheRisky9 All females should refuse to participate in sports where men insert themselves in the men's teams. Unfortunately, the indoctrination is so strong, that many women/girls will feel obligated to help float this leaden boat.
Thank you for doing this film and giving these women a voice. I went through this 15 years ago when there was 0 support for wives vs the overwhelming love, support and enthusiasm for the husbands who were now apparently “opening up like beautiful flowers”. Trans-widows is a good word, because that’s what it felt like. Only unlike a widow, there was very little sympathy, support or compassion coming this way. Through tremendous grief and bewilderment, you were pretty much on your own. Even our therapist gushed, “Your husband of (25 years) is blossoming into his true self and you need to move on.” I did. I’m good. But it was really, really hard, and a life changing, perspective-shifting experience.
What the heck causes all this.? The gaslighting that happens here is beyond decency. These poor women are just pushed down to supposedly accept his 'blossoming' . I havent heard or seen anything relating to women 'blossoming' into a man !! Just selfish, hateful narcisissim, many of these horrible men , emulate their wives clothing, hairstyle etc, some go as far as to appropriate our biology too...."birthing the kids', having periods, insisting they are the mothers. This is a form of psychosis. And that question....what is behind this obsession? As per usual, its women who are being asked to accomadate, roll over, move aside and accept this magical 'women' into their lives. Unbelievable. 😢
Ewwwwwwwww ugh what a horrible abuse from everyone onto you…. Gawwwwd I just couldn’t imagine how invidious it really must have been for you because of course even as a survivor of domestic violence abuse and emotional abuse I can’t imagine how horribly alone and confused angry you must have been…
Great talk, thanks. I'd go out on a limb and bet that 90% of the trans women leaving these trans widows (in America) are huite men. Couldn't this be an acute response to the way huite men have been artificially excised from... well, everything, in the name of "diversity and inclusion"? "Diversity" has come to mean simply "not huite". I'd spell that word correctly if I wouldn't get censored for doing so.
I lol'ed at this message. Many men of color can not become middle/upperclass folks and then "transition" into a woman because they would not have the community support or adoration as their counterparts. I can not see a black Jennifer Pritzer (sp) or Caitlin Jenner with money and fame deciding to publicly come out as transgender. Most men of color do not have that much $exuaL freedom as huit men; they are constricted by societal norms, religion, and past oppression. I have no doubt that they do it in private, but to do it publicly, they would lose lots of social capital. For this reason, most black males who transition are HSTS, but I wouldn't be surprised if they start popping up as huit trans males gain more power.
I think the place of being caught between the rock and the hard place is often the children. Many women will swallow the disgust, the hurt, the shame, and so on to try and help their children, especially their young daughters, manage through this trauma (It is what women do). This has been years of celebrating these men while families are getting kicked from every side. Women become isolated due to shame but at the same time don't want to show that shame for fear of what their kids would feel. Leaving means leaving their kids alone with someone who can't see past their self to see their children or the pain they have caused or are causing. Often these men scarcely parent because they are so focused on their false identity.
It's an eye opening film. If anyone doubts that we are still very much in a patriarchy, where women are expected to be in servitude, ask why this film isn't on Netflix.
Yes. The veil that there was any kind of equality and misogyny was being diminished on any deep level has completely disintegrated during this so-called movement.
@@BirdistheNerd Mr Menno is releasing a video on that, this week. Young women need to be encouraged to understand that their rights are not a given in the way that men's are, and they need to work to protect them.
As à transsexuel personne since my first girlfreind at age 15 i was honest with my partners. Some of them used me like Kink. Others Black mailed me and 2 of them made children with me. Your not telling bothe sides.
i found it. through her website. it’s on youtube. not sure i’m looking fwd to watching it. but i will watch it. what an incredible and important women she is.
i feel a lot of disgust towards bitter divorcees who call themselves “widows”. you did not experience the death of a loved one, it’s just crazy that those women will openly disrespect widows just to fish for undeserved sympathy
I'm a widow, and I have a lot of sympathy for these women who have lost their husbands to a cult. These men want to erase/kill their former selves, hence the concept of a "dead name". I'm not offended at all by the label of "trans widows", so don't be offended on behalf of widows like me, we don't need your misplaced concern.
I have a hard time having empathy for most trans widows. The majority of them are up all for all of this until backfires on them. The whole struggle truly looks like two narcissists fighting to be the center of attention.
@@wolfhugs2221 I understand how "The majority of them are up all for all of this until backfires on them." may sound like this, but I'm not referring to the relationship, but the cult. When they are the ones screaming victim to get their narcissistic demands met it is all right, but when they get one upped like this it is a travesty, pun intended.
I feel so seen. Viashnavi - thank you. You are channeling the rage I cannot express, for my children’s sake. Thanks Stephanie for platforming such a giant of a woman.
Thank you, Stephanie, for this very interesting interview.
Will Farell should be forced to what this
Agreed. His comments to promote that show he's done just make him look like the most insensitive, thoughtless fool.
I watched her documentary and it's amazing. I went as far as mirroring the film so it's preserved if it was taken down.
In the data I've collected (the only in the world) on the experiences of trans widows, over 1/3 were s assaulted by husband, and also over 1/3 were ph assaulted. It is not safe to stay.
I love your work. And thank you for speaking out. Many of these trans individuals are playing it off that they are the heroes. They are coming out to spare you.
I got down this rabbit hole when a trans activist persuaded the martial arts school I went to decided the women's division should be marginalized genders. And as I got to know him, I came to think, "there is no way this guy thinks that he's going to win anything in our division." And it was your material that put the pieces together. It was about a wider fantasy of the world seeing him as a woman. Winning was just secondary to that. And, in a way that makes it worse.
@@TheRisky9 Thanks! Oddly, my ex-husband, whom I call Neddy in my memoir, is a martial arts hobbyist. Of course, listed in the women's division. He's so enraged most of the time--I cannot imagine sparring with him.
@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals I think you've mentioned this before. This is exceptionally dangerous for the girls participating.
The thing about women is we don't tend to complain. We just choose not to participate. and why complain when it leads to nothing but ridicule from trans rights groups.
But I think what cemented what you say a lot about trans identifying individuals is that we've had this women's category. And it was fine and all.
But as soon as it was the "marginalized genders," suddenly there was talk of special training sessions. And tournaments. And outings. None of this was talked about when it was just the women's group. Not that I cared. I figured if you talk about women's only events, then why not men only and no one wants the backlash of doing a men's only event. Fair enough.
But I found it interesting that we only talk about special marginalized genders events when narcissistic males got involved and called themselves women.
@@TheRisky9 All females should refuse to participate in sports where men insert themselves in the men's teams. Unfortunately, the indoctrination is so strong, that many women/girls will feel obligated to help float this leaden boat.
Thank you for doing this film and giving these women a voice. I went through this 15 years ago when there was 0 support for wives vs the overwhelming love, support and enthusiasm for the husbands who were now apparently “opening up like beautiful flowers”. Trans-widows is a good word, because that’s what it felt like. Only unlike a widow, there was very little sympathy, support or compassion coming this way. Through tremendous grief and bewilderment, you were pretty much on your own. Even our therapist gushed, “Your husband of (25 years) is blossoming into his true self and you need to move on.” I did. I’m good. But it was really, really hard, and a life changing, perspective-shifting experience.
What the heck causes all this.? The gaslighting that happens here is beyond decency. These poor women are just pushed down to supposedly accept his 'blossoming' . I havent heard or seen anything relating to women 'blossoming' into a man !! Just selfish, hateful narcisissim, many of these horrible men , emulate their wives clothing, hairstyle etc, some go as far as to appropriate our biology too...."birthing the kids', having periods, insisting they are the mothers. This is a form of psychosis. And that question....what is behind this obsession? As per usual, its women who are being asked to accomadate, roll over, move aside and accept this magical 'women' into their lives. Unbelievable. 😢
Ewwwwwwwww ugh what a horrible abuse from everyone onto you…. Gawwwwd I just couldn’t imagine how invidious it really must have been for you because of course even as a survivor of domestic violence abuse and emotional abuse I can’t imagine how horribly alone and confused angry you must have been…
Great talk, thanks. I'd go out on a limb and bet that 90% of the trans women leaving these trans widows (in America) are huite men. Couldn't this be an acute response to the way huite men have been artificially excised from... well, everything, in the name of "diversity and inclusion"? "Diversity" has come to mean simply "not huite". I'd spell that word correctly if I wouldn't get censored for doing so.
“Huite” and straight for many. Suddenly they magically become an oppressed class.
I lol'ed at this message. Many men of color can not become middle/upperclass folks and then "transition" into a woman because they would not have the community support or adoration as their counterparts. I can not see a black Jennifer Pritzer (sp) or Caitlin Jenner with money and fame deciding to publicly come out as transgender. Most men of color do not have that much $exuaL freedom as huit men; they are constricted by societal norms, religion, and past oppression. I have no doubt that they do it in private, but to do it publicly, they would lose lots of social capital. For this reason, most black males who transition are HSTS, but I wouldn't be surprised if they start popping up as huit trans males gain more power.
It must be difficult to be as sensitive as Vaishnavi and see the damage pornography has done to Indian men.
To so much men everywhere.
Excellent interview. Such a stunning film. Great to witness how anger and compassion fuel Vaishnavi’s work. Shameful that MSM refuse to show it.
I think the place of being caught between the rock and the hard place is often the children. Many women will swallow the disgust, the hurt, the shame, and so on to try and help their children, especially their young daughters, manage through this trauma (It is what women do). This has been years of celebrating these men while families are getting kicked from every side. Women become isolated due to shame but at the same time don't want to show that shame for fear of what their kids would feel. Leaving means leaving their kids alone with someone who can't see past their self to see their children or the pain they have caused or are causing. Often these men scarcely parent because they are so focused on their false identity.
Thank you for this interview and conversation. I should have stated that first.
You are brave to do this film and I am forever in your debt for being heard, thank you x
Viashnavi‘s passion, and intelligence are inspirational.
What an amazing woman! I would love to hear her in a discussion with Julie Bindel - two great minds and hearts!
Vaishnavi is brave and brilliant and is producing powerful work.
It's an eye opening film. If anyone doubts that we are still very much in a patriarchy, where women are expected to be in servitude, ask why this film isn't on Netflix.
Yes. The veil that there was any kind of equality and misogyny was being diminished on any deep level has completely disintegrated during this so-called movement.
@@BirdistheNerd Mr Menno is releasing a video on that, this week. Young women need to be encouraged to understand that their rights are not a given in the way that men's are, and they need to work to protect them.
@@wolfhugs2221 Thank you. I found the video that drops tomorrow.
❤
As à transsexuel personne since my first girlfreind at age 15 i was honest with my partners. Some of them used me like Kink. Others Black mailed me and 2 of them made children with me. Your not telling bothe sides.
where can i find this film?
i found it. through her website. it’s on youtube. not sure i’m looking fwd to watching it. but i will watch it. what an incredible and important women she is.
The link is in the info box if you click "more" Right next to the words "Through the Looking Glass..."
i feel a lot of disgust towards bitter divorcees who call themselves “widows”. you did not experience the death of a loved one, it’s just crazy that those women will openly disrespect widows just to fish for undeserved sympathy
It's a historically accepted term for those whose spouses have deserted them emotionally but are still around.
@@wolfhugs2221 bullshit.
I'm a widow, and I have a lot of sympathy for these women who have lost their husbands to a cult. These men want to erase/kill their former selves, hence the concept of a "dead name". I'm not offended at all by the label of "trans widows", so don't be offended on behalf of widows like me, we don't need your misplaced concern.
@@notreal-duh live in ignorance of history if you want to mate
@@wolfhugs2221 you have zero regard for real widows. that’s what disgusts me about you people
I have a hard time having empathy for most trans widows.
The majority of them are up all for all of this until backfires on them.
The whole struggle truly looks like two narcissists fighting to be the center of attention.
It can be. But one side can also be completely wrong.
This sounds like the attitude of society to abused women throughout history. Try listening and understanding. You will feel far more peace that way.
@@wolfhugs2221
I understand how
"The majority of them are up all for all of this until backfires on them."
may sound like this, but I'm not referring to the relationship, but the cult. When they are the ones screaming victim to get their narcissistic demands met it is all right, but when they get one upped like this it is a travesty, pun intended.
@@ghfudrs93uuu you're just another misogynist mate.
And i do never watched porn or idolised my partners. I was like this since i can remember