Dornier Do 335 - Fastest Piston Fighter of WW2
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2021
- The Luftwaffe's Dornier Do 335 Fighter was so fast that German aviators nicknamed it the Pfeil or Arrow. In fact, it was the fastest piston-engine fighter of World War II.
The Do 335 was a unique piece of German engineering that featured two engines with a distinctive push-pull configuration. Instead of placing both engines on the wings, one was located in the nose to pull the aircraft while a second sat in the rear, pushing the plane.
Although development began in 1937, it didn't see the light of day until 1944, one year before World War II reached its conclusion.
Hitler hoped the Dornier Do 335 would change the war's tide, but it arrived too late to make any considerable dent in the by now overwhelming American and British air superiority.
Only 48 aircraft were made. Most of them were destroyed or taken by the victorious Allied armies in 1945.
Although it caused a sensation with American aviators for its innovative push-pull configuration, the Dornier was forgotten in an epoch where jet fighters became the future of air combat.
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Every German techology ever "It came to late to turn the tide of the war"..
Very true. A lot of it ended up changing the world sooner or later though.
They might've had a chance if Hitler wasn't such a moron
In the war of 1870 the German bolt action rifles were supposed to be a war winning weapon.
And yet, all of that German tech managed to change the world.
Because Nazi Germany economy does not in full throttle in 1944.
Kool! My mother worked for Dornier. She worked in the office running copies of blueprints, ect. After the war she met a U.S. soldier and came to Iowa. A great, long life here in America.
How involved in the nazi party was she? Obviously she was a member, but how zealous was her belief?
@@allenfenwick6257 Mom left Germany at age 23 with a 1-1/2 year old son and me in the oven. Mom never said much about that so I don't know how much or how little she was involved. My older brother has been to Germany many times and has done lots of research regarding my dad in WWII and also mom's history. I have never heard him mention anything about her involvement in the nazi party. Just don't know. I had a relative who rose up against what was happening and he was rounded up and killed.
@@allenfenwick6257 What an impertinent jerk !
What does "ect" mean?
@@ThatsMrMoronToYou
External Cantilevered Turret
After seeing photos of this plane in book since I was a kid, I finally got to see it in person in 2019 at the Udvar_Hazy facility. Such a beautiful aircraft and the last of her kind. Glad she's preserved and being taken care of.
Saw it november 2018
I saw it in 1996 at the restoration center. They said how they found an explosive charge for the ejection seat was still live!
☝️😍
So cute
And she is not a small girl either, she is pretty huge to be honest
I'd have called her many things. "Beautiful" is not among those.
I actually saw that Do335 in the brief window when it was in Munich. I had a model kit of it when I was young... a bit odd considering how rare and relatively unknown it was.
Maybe the Do335 is your spirit animal?
You could have done worse.
I had the model kit too! Too many years breathing airplane glue catching up with me now maybe.
I saw it in München too. Impressive bird! One could almost feel the power. In real life much bigger than I expected. I had 1/72 model.
If you've seen a Do 335 in real life....How old are you guys? You guys must be old, no?
@@benimmortal5858 - I saw the Navy NC-4 seaplane that flew the Atlantic Ocean in 1919 but ain't THAT OLD. It's in the USN aviation museum in Pensacola FL.
I am an aerospace engineer and kitplane designer. I was enamored by this plane 25 years ago. I hooked up with a curator at the Smithsonian and crawled all over this airplane when it was at the Garber Facility (where they fix the planes up, before they go to the museum) in Silver Hill, Maryland. From an aerodynamicist's viewpoint, it's a magnificent design. You get the power of a twin, but without the drag. You should read the report of the German pilot that ferried this particular plane from the Dornier factory to the French port. He easily outran the two P-51's that were his "escort". The 335 would do 485mph easily. If it had been developed more fully, it could have gone much faster. The current speed record is held by Voodoo, a modified P-51 that I've watched run at Reno. I saw Voodoo hit 508mph, but it's run much faster than that. With the same work, I think the 335 could go even faster. Dornier did a great job with this design. As said in the video, it's much easier to see this airplane now.....it's at the Udvar Hazy center outside of Dulles airport.
do you know if it ever saw combat?
@@kenba96 I believe it was very limited. I think they saw some...probably got a few....but not many. The war was almost over by the time they came out.
But did you REALLY hook up?
According to British test pilot Captain Eric Brown’s biography :
“One of the first prototypes had crashed and the pilot had been picked up dead with both arms missing. In a subsequent crash the body had been found with one arm missing.”
He goes on to say that the method of baling out was to blame. In order to jettison the cockpit hood, the pilot had to pull on two levers. The airstream would rip off the hood, as well as the pilot’s arms.
I don't know why, but that reminded me of the joke in Memphis Belle after one of the -17's was shot down
The airstream or the prop itself?
it was the slipstream. The Germans said they suspected as much to Winkle Brown and when they did some wind tunnel analysis at Farnborough it proved that that was the problem.
Eric Winkle Brown was a LEGEND! search youtube for him talking about test flying pretty much everything including the ME-163 !
He was more than a legend. Reading his books is an eye-opener too.
It’s called the arrow because of the Cruciform tail. Not because of its speed. Good video for a rare aircraft
It was called The arrow for it's speed btw
@@margussaar9897 It’s called the arrow because of the Cruciform tail.
Fight fight fight!
It's not unreasonable to assume multiple characteristics led to it being called the arrow.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 i agree
Too bad no one made a racer from the plans, that would be one sight, seeing a Do-335 go up against P-51s at the Reno Air Races.
I’d imagine the Do 335 would out pace it if the p51 was unmodified
@@safwanshariq1478 There was a P-51 crash at the Reno Air Races several years ago, the cause was poor maintenance on a highly modified P-51 that severely compromised safety. An elevator trim tab broke, causing the plane to crash into a crowd.
The trouble is that it would loose! Just because frontal area is lower than most twins, it was not as low as the smaller single engined types, but it had MORE WETTED AREA! More than twice as much making it slower than a mustang racer. It also had a very blunt, low finesse ratio nose which made more drag. No the 335 was a looser and there was nothing they could do to make it a winner.
@@neoconshooter Theoretically you could scrap the empennage, fit new wings, rework the cooling and cowlings, and mostly use it as an airframe with space for 2 engines. It's definitely a terrible race plane on a low budget, but there are also P-51 racers using learjet wings.
Edit: wouldn't a plane with a better top speed with double the parasitic drag have a higher sustained turn rate given the role of induced drag at high g loadings, all else being equal?
@@safwanshariq1478 Sir, I expect that the Do 335 would not turn as well as a P51, F4U, F8, and other period aircraft and while it would be turning, the much larger area of the fuselage would be terribly draggy. Any straight-line speed advantage would be negated by the wider radius turns and proportionally larger turn-induced drag.
Keep in mind that by this time in the war Germany had lost access to the materials, alloys etc needed to create light weight metals. This meant that the average German aircraft was quite a bit heavier than American or British as the allies had the luxury of using high strength, light weight metals for their airplanes. If this and other German planes had been built with ideal materials, they would have been even faster, maneuverable.
That is true , and it also means that it took much longer to design, and build a new aircraft.
If only, if only. Ahhh, the ifs of history.
@@cpymo What's wrong with giving credit where credit is due? Praising engineering ingenuity is not "what ifs of history".
@@hellomadet Nothing. My misinterpretation, and I apologise.
As an Englishman & son of an RAF serviceman also grandson to both grandfather's one who was on the N. African front the other who was on the front lines in Europe that was a POW then escaped shot twice & a POW again who escaped again. Made his way to Holland & somehow got a ship back over the North Sea to England. I have nothing but admiration for the Scientists & Engineers of Germany who produced some of the most innovative aircraft & every other aspect of military hardware. Their tanks, U boats, Ships, guns & heavy armoury were 2nd to none. For a single country of that its size which was on its knees just a single decade before the outbreak of WW2 what they achieved was a miracle. If the war went on for just a single year more there was every chance of Germany making the 1st atomic bomb. The facts of the matter are, it was the Soviets that defeated the Germans. They inflicted 90% of the German casualties suffering the biggest sacrifice themselves. We don't & never have been taught this fact which is disgusting really. It took the combined mite of many nations as well as the horrific fighting with the Soviets on the German Eastern front to defeat this war machine. There's been nothing like them before WW2 & nothing like them since. I don't think there ever will be thankfully either.
I don't think something like this will happen in the near future either, but I am a bit worried about how China is going to behave in the coming decades
No the Soviets did not defeat the germans, rather it was a combined effort of many nations. Fact is the Soviets were very dependant on American supplies for their fight.
Also keep in mind, had it not been the Soviets training the germans prior to the war, and assisting the germans in the rape of Poland, the germans may have never even started the war.
I am a Patriotic US Veteran, The Do.335 is my favorite aircraft of WWII.
Its a pretty sleek machine, your not alone.
It’s beautiful isn’t it
Thank you for your service Ken ✌
There is a game called war thunder that brings dreams to life, if you haven’t heard of it already.
I like this and the F-82.. oddballs but definitely cool..
An important fact about the Do-335 is that the luftwaffe lost interest in it in favor of the ME-262. If it wasn't for this fact it would have received the GM-1 boost (nitrous oxide) system like all the other German fighters, this would have added about 300 hp to each engine, it could have been the fastest by far.
Each Jumo jet engine on the Me-262 cost about 3X less than each DB-603 engine on the twin-engined Pfeil. That didn't help the Dornier's case. Boost would have made those piston engines even more expensive and difficult to build. I don't know how well the Do-335 airframe could deal with another 600 hp.
There is a second DO 335 in Rechlin, Germany. Here, at the former Luftwaffe testground,-museum there is a 1:1 rebuilt with many, many original parts to be seen. This museum is not known by many, but shows some rare and interesting planes and other vehicles. Definitely worth a visit..
Seen it in person and it is a beauty. If you ever get the chance to go see it, do it! The collection of aircraft at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center is top notch, B-29 Enola Gay, P-61 Black widow, Me-163, Cherry Blossom, and so much more.
Great, now return those planes back to Germany
It is also important to note that two engines in tandem configuration does not give you the same power as abreast, the second engine increases power, but only by 15-25%
standing next to the survivor at Udvar-Hazy is eye opening to just how massive that plane really is. quite extraordinary
Agreed. I live 7 minutes from Udvar-Hazy and every time I see it I actually think it looks terrifying. Think it’s the shape.
Oh there's one there? Silver Hill you can't go there it's annoying.
It's a beast. Four 30 mm cannons. I'd turn and fight. But if I lived I'd get fired
I think it's sexy
@@Dgadude is it outside?
That’s a huge aircraft, looking at the people standing around it !
I really love the ejection seat test with the technician apparently staying just a few feet away 😃
As a kid, I thought (and ( still do) this plane was in the top 5 beautiful aircraft, both "old" and modern.
Putting a jet engine in the nose and one in the tail is how time travel will be created.
This is how jets work
Um I doubt that is the solution to time travel because it wouldn't get off the ground
@@kmonnier lol no. The "Nose" should be more akin to intake, and thats more cold war era design anyway.
@@CanadianB.O.W
They were working on mixed powerplant versions at the end.
Do435 and Do535
Jet in the tail, 500+mph. As per the Jane's book, ' German Jet Genesis '.
Let's be glad the German high command didnt share the visions of Dornier, Heinkel, and Messerschmitt.
Would've been a problem for allied bombers had they encountered hordes of twin jet fighters and such in late '42.
@@patrickhorvath2684 Germany wasn't able to mass produce working jet engines that early, or 262s would have been flying combat missions much earlier.
Built a scale model of this as a kid. No one believed me when I told them it actually flew! Everybody accused of just
cobbling it together...
My Dad and I built a model of this fast monster in the Mid70's!
I am glad to see the designer finally got some recognition for his hard work and innovation!!! 🤠👍
So we finally have them all here: The 335, the 234 and the 262. Great, thanks a lot. Yes, beside the 109 and the 190. Cool machines, all of them.
I've never found this aircraft to be visually appealing, but it's certainly mechanically interesting.
👍 Nickname was „Ameisenbär“ (ant- eater). Two pilots died during eject as the levers were attached to the canopy and as they grabbed it their arms were ripped off their bodies...
Oh Jesus! That’s grim! Imagine that.
@@geordiedog1749 The device that should save you kills you - this for sure ruins your day...😖
Lockheeds C-2 Ejection seat in the F-104 killed also pilots because of bad seperation after a while the Luftwaffe and other Nato Users changed the seat and used the famous Martin Baker Mk GQ-7
@@Sturminfantrist Der Witwenmacher...😑
Great video. A pleasure to watch something that is so well made and well researched.
I just like saying “Oberpfaffenhofen”...I think I’m going to say it every day. It’s a bit like “Mississippi”, you know how to spell it but not when to stop!
Deutsch is a great language. A lot of times definition is in the word!
Lol Jay 😆
@@christianebert7264
Yeah but I doubt many people know how to spell Oberpfaffenhofen, whereas Mississippi is easy to spell.
I know how spell both...like I said I don’t always know when to stop spelling.
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "To me to you." - The chuckle brothers.
Got to see this plane in person years ago... need to go back again, have a much better appreciation and awe for aircraft since being a kid
The Do 335 Pfeil was incredibly fast to be a piston engined fighter but it was massive and expensive to produce with a lot of innovative solutions such as centrally mounted twin DB 603E-1solving lot of aerodynamic issues, flight characteristics and drag compared to traditional twin engines mounted side by side, it was installed an ejection seat and explosive charges to eject the lower (I think) tail and upper tail and the rear propeller. It was estimated to have 763 km/h at 6,500 mt with a cruise speed of 685 km/km but it was not an easy plane for beginners. It did had it's share of problems such as rather weak "legs" to handle an empty weight of 7,260 kg and a gross weight of 9,600 kg, a beast, and the rear engine tended to overheat with vibration problems because of it's long shaft. In practice it still needed a quite a lot of development. Finally it is good to remember that much of the delay was it was not given a priority, e then r came the orders from Göring to cancel development of airplanes that would take more than a year to fly around 1942 and it included the Do 335, then the factory suffered a serious setback when it was severely bombed the factory destroying the much needed jigs. Finally it was much delayed because of lack of resources and the very slow supply of the much needed DB 603. All in all a wonderful airplane that was produced at the wrong moment....
Outstanding footage!
Excellent presentation. One Helluva Aircraft...
This is one of the most beautiful fighters i've ever seen imagine if these things ever saw combat
If you like the Do.335, check out the Me262 jet fighter. German technological excellence in WW2.
I think it saw combat, if I recall correctly Pierre Clostermann, a french ace, tried to engage one (but failed because of its speed) *edit yeah I checked and the pfeil outran 4 tempests V at low altitude
I remember reading about this years ago and it stuck in my mind because the pursuit pilot figured it was pulling away at over 500 mph given his speed.
@@harryhudson5140 Yeah and the allied piolet French Ace Pierre Clostermann was flying in a Hawker Tempests that was among the fastests fighters the allies had
A handful of 335s were encountered by Allied pilots, because by late 44 there was no airspace over Germany to test fly it where enemy non-presence could be guaranteed. Usually the encountered Arrow pilot would just hit the gas and zoom off.
Wonderfully done and edited.
Excellent Research/Work/Video.
That plane is simply a monster to see in real life.
So damn big
It is. Saw one at the Udvar Hazy Center
Absolutely one of my favorite propeller driven aircraft of all time. Imagine a 21 century version of this airplane, driven by a turbo-prop engines and constructed from cabon-fibre/composites. Now that would be a monster!
As a fighter? Google Thunderscreech.
Push-pull is rare, but it’s not unheard of. The Rutan Voyager is an easy example of a well known modern design.
Props on military is very rare these days other than COIN and cargo planes. Drones could, but it’s usually better to have one bigger engine for efficiency. Contra-rotating props showed up on a couple of late WW2 designs, that was a more convenient way to do two online engines than a push-pull.
One of the reasons it wasn't adopted was because the engine configuration led to handling problems
Not to mention to the same resources you could build 2 Ta-152s
@@jamesricker3997 - Great points. Also, the rear engine was prone to overheating. The Luftwaffe would have been better served if the German aircraft industry would have concentrated on just a couple designs like the Me 262 and the Ta-152.
It could be said, as an advanced large piston fighter interceptor/bomber, of its earlier era, is sort of alike version of an early MD F-4...?
Big, powerful, neavy & sturdy, with some handling quirks & limitations slower speeds from that power and weight..
9:53 to 9:59 to the scriptwriter: it is _coincidence_ that the original engineers were still working at the Dornier plant, not irony.
I do think it was ironic, that they built the plane to fight against the Allies including USA, then restored it for the USA after the war.
It's hardly coincidence that they worked at the Dornier factory.
@@AndrewBlucher if only the scriptwriter had your sensibility and worded it as you have phrased it. he simply states some engineers were still working there, as a general statement, not that any of them happened to work on the restoration. that is why it is, as it _was_ phrased, a coincidence rather than irony.
Literally and irony are two words most people can't use properly.
Coincidence? Dornier engineers working for Dornier isn't exactly coincidence, is it?
Outstanding video!
One of the reasons that this configuration never became common was because the rear engine suffered from over heating problems.
The lack of yaw when an engine failed has NOTHING to do with the engine type but their location on the centre line of the aircraft. It is the offset thrust of the engine still operating that causes the yaw.
Bell Aircrafts Cobra and King Cobra.
@@rickriede2166 you're going to have to explain this comment.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 I think he means the overheating problems of a mid mounted engine are not insoluble. I think the overheating problems of the 335 could be due more factors than engine location alone. Daimler struggled with overheating and detonation problems with the DB 603 and 605 in general, before mounting it in the rear of the 335. German engineers faced challenges due to lack of materials and leadership that led to slow resolution of such issues, but in principle they should have eventually been able to solve this problem for the 335 as well.
@@gort8203 every problem can be solved with enough time, money and resources. None of which Dornier had. Even Cessna, without the pressures of war couldn't get this configuration to work.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 Everyone had improved designs under development, and they all ran out of time when the war entered its end game. The fact that Dornier ran out of time does not mean it was pursuing a concept that was not viable.
I have been to Smithsonian Air & Space (Dulles). I was dully impressed by the Dornier 335
These videos are awsome, Thank you
Beautiful design and wayyyy ahead of its time like the ME262.
I've had the pleasure of seeing this aircraft 'in the flesh' a few times when visiting the Udvar-Hazy centre near Dulles Airport in Virginia
When I was a little kid, I thought this plane could fly in reverse lol
That's as hilarious, as my f*ckup as a child: I had build a nice model of the beautifil P-38 Lightning. As we all know, it had openings behind the engine-nacelles, where the big superchargers could draw air. The superchargers themselves are round in shape.
As a kid, I didn't know, these round shapes where superchargers. They actually looked like retracted landing gears. So as a kid, I assumed, the Lightning could land on its back. I thought this was a clever trick by the allies: Land on your back, fool the enemy by making yourself look like, you where shut down. Once the enemy would fly off, the pilot could then take off, chase the enemy an shoot him down.
Only years later, when I told that to one of my uncles, I was corrected. He was a veteran Luftwaffe pilot and explained to me, what these "things" actually where. And why they made the P-38 such a terrifying opponent. After that, whenever we met, we talked for hours about the war and air combat, as he loved my enthusiasm for aviation.
After the war, he never flew again. He rejected all offers by the new-founded post-war Luftwaffe, as he refused to ever touch a weapon again. He always said: "Ich hatte genug Krieg fuer 10 Leben. Es reicht." - "I had enough war for 10 lives. It's enough."
He died in 1989, peacefully. He was a brave man. Miss you, Walter.
@@virtualinfinity6280 my condolences, I wish your beloved uncle Rest In Peace.
Lol, you don't need two propellers for that. I once flew in reverse on a Cessna 152, you just have to fly as slow as possible with a strong headwind and you'll fly in reverse. Feels quite strange.
@@TheJosep70 that’s amazing lol, I would definitely try doing that if I ever get a chance
@Easily Amused lmao no
Man i requested this aircraft a lot and I lost hope thanks for not disappointing
Never realized this aircraft existed. Another awesome video Dark channel!
I saw this on display 10 years ago. It is an awesome plane.
This one is my favourite twin-engined aircraft of the war. If I had the means to bring back any warbird from the 40's, this would be it. It just looks so sleek and fast, I bet it would perform fairly decently in air races against other twin-twin engined airplanes from the era, like the Tigercat.
Great video, thank you.
got to say, That is a Beautiful Plane.
I saw the last Do 335 in summer 2019. That thing is massive. Also it would be amazing if it could be restored to flying condition.
Late reply, I know, but during a tour of the Paul E. Garber facility, where the Smithsonian restores aircraft, the tour guide emphasized that the aircraft are generally (I suppose there has to be occasional exceptions) restored to "like new" condition. I assume that any restoration done on behalf of the Smithsonian, as with Dornier and the Do 335, is done to the same standards. In other words, they are completely airworthy. They had a FW-190 there at the time and the guide mentioned that the rudder pedals were complete down to the leather straps that held the pilot's feet. I asked why they would go to such lengths when no one could see the rudder pedals when the aircraft was on display. He replied that this degree of restoration was not for our benefit, but for the benefit of researchers that might study the planes more than a hundred years from now.
Dornier: Here's an aircraft that is hard bailing out of!
Kamov: Hold my pivo!
Always the best music. I love these shows.
Great vídeo ! Awesome Channel.👍🏻 👍🏻
I find it interesting to think about if this qualifies as a "too little, too late" situation or a "missed opportunity". Some technologies truly weren't around or viable early on, such as jet- or rocket-powered aircraft. But the critical technology, here, was the tandem engine arrangement. Dornier had been dealing with such technology since the 1920s. Additionally, a lot of the aerodynamic principles and likely benefits were understood, too.
If the idea had been pursued more energetically, they might not have had the Do-335 earlier in the war; but they may have had something to fly alongside the Bf-110 in the heavy fighter role that had similar benefits to the Pfeil. If they'd had a heavy fighter during the Battle of Britain that reduced the speed advantage held by the defending RAF fighters, the Luftwaffe might have accomplished more, especially as they started to resort to "strike fighter" attacks against British targets.
My favorite WW2 aircraft! Finally!
Same here, such a nice design.
Love your channel.
Such an INCREDIBLE and TRULY UNIQUE aircraft design!! It should be REPRODUCED and FLOWN in airshows!! I really like how it had a much more BALANCED weight design with one engine in the front AND one in the rear as OPPOSED to having MOST of the weight shoved way up in the font like most OTHER PROPELLER airplanes.
There is also one 1:1 replica including several original parts at the Luftfahrttechnisches Museum in Recklinghausen,Germany.
Excellent video! Well done! With the concept for the Do335 being first conceived and developed by Donier in 1937, if it had been accepted by the Luftwaffe early on and gone into mass production in 1940, '41 or even '42, which it could have, it could have been a real game changer for the Germans. It's a good thing for all of us that the Nazi leadership was so bad and so incompetent that they waited far too late in the war to finally produce it.
You ever think about doing full length docs ???
You should I could watch all day !!!
Great shows
An extremely fascinating aircraft
Just imagine if all the German military machines had come out in adequate numbers two years earlier than they did? WW2 may have been much different.
To be fair it is reasonable to assume that if they did the Allies would have responded by rushing their cutting edge designs into production to counter.
@@PantherBlitz True. Other nations would have reactions of their own.
Imagine if British government had given priority to jet engine development , could have been a year before
Sounds like you said Claudius? Claudius Dornier was the son. The Dornier that authored the push-pull concept was the father, Claude (1884-1969).
This plane is very different from all other fighter/bombers of WW2 and it's a very good looking plane.
I actually like the breathless, dramatic narration style. I wonder if a little bit wouldn’t go a long way, though.
Interesting that this plane has the same configuration as the P-51 when you look at the back of this plane.
The Dornier Do 335 also has a "Air intake" at the back engine, same as the P-51.
Or could it be, that the Germans had Implemented a piece of a captured P-51?
Interesting theory, but it can be easily dismissed.
Both planes utilized what is know as the "Merridith Effect" a concept published in Britian before the war.
Several aircraft designed and built during WW2 incorporated the Merridith Effect in their cooling system including air-cooled radials with varying degrees of success.
Exhaust stack tuning was another common technique of harnessing waste heat energy for thrust augmentation during the war.
There was an experimental propeller driven fighter called, "Thunder screech." The XF-84H Thundersceech was supposed to fly 1000 miles per hour. I do not think it ever got that fast. It was the loudest airplane ever made. The sound used to make ground crews ill.
Top speed of the Republic XF-84H Thunderscreech was only 530 mph.
@@jimfinlaw4537 It fell very short of its expected top speed. Being a propeller driven aircraft, it could have never made 1000 miles per hour. We know that now. I guess it was not known back then. I wonder if any videos exist on the Thunderscreech. I am on to do a video search!
@@indridcold8433 In 1951, the Air Force and Navy were seeking a propeller driven strike fighter with performance enabling it to operate from the Navy's carriers. In response, Republic Aviation proposed their Model AP-46, a modified RF-84F airframe adapted to accept a 5,850 eshp Allison XT-40-A-1 turboprop engine. A development contract for three planes was signed, two going to the Air Force and the third to test an afterburning XT-40 engine for the Navy. The planes were briefly designated XF-106, but were reclassified as XF-84H before completion. Arriving at Edwards Air Force Base, (formally Muroc Dry Lake), in March 1955, the first XF-84H was readied for testing. The most obvious differences betwen it and its pure jet powered brother were the "T" tail, a shark-like fin behind cockpit, and of course, the large spinner with its supersonic propeller. It was the latter that created the most unique problems in the development program. An automatic governor controlled engine RPM's to maintain constant speed. The throttle operated the propeller pitch to provide the necessary thrust for forward motion. On the ground, the propeller could be reversed for braking. During a ground run-up, the 12 foot diameter Aero Products propeller produced hypersonic sound waves which, though inaudiable, created acute nausea in anyone standing within several hundred feet of the plane. Problems with the brakes, gearbox and hydraulic leakage delayed the first flight until 22 July 1955, where it reached an altitude of 20,000 feet. Although the flight testing was limited, the handling characteristics of the XF-84H Thunderscreech were reported to be very good. Troubles with the engine and propeller finally led to the abandonment of the program. The second XF-84H was completed, but never flown. It was canabolized for parts to keep the first XF-84H flying. The third aircraft, with its afterburning engine, was never built. The Navy lost interest in the project. The performance characteristics of the XF-84H have been declassified and its top speed was 530 mph, making it the fastest propeller driven strike fighter of that time. Even though its not fair to compare a jet-augmented powerplant with a piston engine powered unit. The XF-84H had the same 33 1/2 foot wingspan as the Republic F-84F Thunderstreak fighter, with 325 square feet of area. Length was 51 feet 6 inches and height was 15 feet 4 inches. Today, the only surviving Republic XF-84H Thunderscreech is on static display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio.
Very cool aircraft!!! Would love to see it fly!! I was always very impressed with the design of this aircraft!!
Applying the twin engine concept from wing mount to low drag fuselage inline set up. Delivered all the promise of speed that props could deliver.
I'd say rear prop in air stream and turbulence from front prop so would be very ineffective at high speed only 20 %I read else where, probably be better if rear engine drove one of two props at front
Now imagine a bomber variant too, the ME class of jet and rocket craft, and postpone Barbarossa for a year-holy schiitte!
Germany had jet-powered bombers, the Arado Ar 234 Blitz.
While i really like 335 my favorite Dornier was the Do26 "Seeadler". Amazing, beautiful plane with immense operating range for that time period and for such a small flying boat. If i had millions to burn i would commission reproduction of few of those.
Thank you very much for your video. This is definitely my favorite airplane. Looking forward going to the Smithsonian Airplane Display. 😃👍
The back story on pilot “survivability” is the demolition charges fitted to the rear vertical fins, and the rear propeller. The Do 335’s ejection seat was boosted by compressed air, rather than the explosive charge used in modern seats.
When the aircraft originally arrived at the Smithsonian facility in Maryland, I’m told it was set aside for years, before restoration began. When it did, one of the Germans who had been on the ground crews and had worked on the 335’s when they were in service was present. He gave the airplane a good look-over and pointed out that at least one of the demolition charges and possibly more were still installed, and still live.
The restored 335 at the Udvar-Hazy center out near Dulles is a monster; it looks predatory just sitting on that tricycle gear.
I would like to see something about the first German night fighters that used early radar.
Or the Ju-87 Stuka that had those huge-ass cannons under the wings.
Imagine converting this into a racing plane.
It seems heavy
I saw that plane when it was on display at the DM in Munich in 1986, Impressive to say the least.
I built one of these in a Balsa kit few years ago a real Mad looking plane , unfortunately it got lost in a fire in my flat , still a great looking Aircraft and a great Vid .
I' d give my left arm to participate in an old school dogfight. With machine guns only , that must of been terrifying and awesome all at the same time
Really?
Just play IL2 and save both your arm and your life. If you already have a decent PC you can get a good setup for 300 bucks
4:31 I've got a model similar to this mounted on the wall of my man-cave.
No u don't
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt Yes, I do. I ordered it from eBay some years ago. It's a radar equipped night fighter.
Love seeing this aircraft at the Smithsonian’s Udvar Hazy Air and Space Museum in Chantilly, VA. It is the last complete aircraft of this model.
Beautiful Aircraft!
I used to work every weekend where the last one is
The largest problem with the aircraft was engine heating. The aircrafts engines constantly overheated
An easy to fix problem. I would have put some radiators in the wing roots.
What a cool machine! Incidentally I loath working on Cessna 337s with the push/pull config.
Why is that? I ask 7 months later. Still, please do respond :-)
@@LazyFloridian
Most were never taken care of very well. Many sat outside and the fuel systems are trashed from corrosion. The engine installations appear to be from 2 different aircraft as well as cowlings and engine baffles. Lack of available new or used parts. Landing gear retract system is quirky and requires really tall jacks. I am not really a fan of TCM IO-360 engines in, well, pretty much anything. Very little cargo space. Top of my list: they sound like the props are fighting each other.
@@upsidedowndog1256 the reason I was curious is because I flew in a Cessna 337 as a teenager. Thank you for the reply!
This is actually my favorite WW2 airplane.
Do one of these on the Australian CAC Boomerang aircraft. Australia’s reaction to WW2 being on our doorstep and our isolation from Allied countries.
Unique sounding aircraft too in a good way.
Nah that's lame
Love to have a 1700mm Wingspan Foam RC aircraft DO-335. But a HO-229 would be Awesome 👍🏻✌🏻🖖🏻
Motion Rc what is thier scale of this air craft, or better yet, a balsa and okay one that can be more easily repaired not a great fan of foam, but they are some loverly looking and performing models
Damn! I visited the Deutsches Museum in Munich in the 90's, a decade too late! Now I have to cross the Atlantic if I want to see this beauty!
But even without it, I highly recommand this visit to anyone travelling in Germany and interested in warfare material. ME109, ME 262, a Bachem Natter, etc... even a real WWI submarine cut in places to show its interior!
Wow, that's maybe the coolest prop. plane ever!
The German tech. was way beyond ours, but we had the numbers & eventually our manufactural capacity overcame their superior tech.
That would be extra interesting if it had contrarotating propellers on both ends.
But why?
That would require a turbo prop or a 2nd engine , making it a 4 engine fighter, wich is impossible
Leads me to believe ally pilots knew, through briefing(s), exactly which way to turn if they found one on their six.
@@iustinr3221 I'm no engineer I just saw an airplane with two faces appear on my recommends lol
@@Bubba-zu6yr both engines could rotate counterclockwise , but since one is mounted backwards, it would rotate clockwise from the pilot's perspective. There would not be a torque effect as with single engine planes. I think p_factor is a different story though
I really love your content. It's the best aviation info you can get, but for the love of all that is holy please refrain from drinking 13 cups of espresso before making it. The amount and quality of intel are great in my opinion; it almost sounds and feels you were actually there smelling the exhaust fumes. But slow down my man. Just take the time to pronounce the syllables. You have an awesome story to tell. The planes have an awesome story to tell. So: at the end of EACH sentence I'd advise you to take a ONE second pause. It will make your content soooo much more like the stuff we see on National Geographic (only more depth!). I watched all your stuff. I will keep watching your stuff. Just a friendly tip!
Playback speed 0.85 is perfect
I would say just turn the video speed down if you need more time to process the info. No offense but not everyone has a slow processing speed.
@@accordingtoallknownlawsofa5497 it has nothing to do with the speed of the video, it has everything to do with the fact the video is "sped" up so he can only have 10 min of video, thats why you have to "slow" it down to around 0.85-0.75 for it to sound normal. I don't know why the guy doesn't just make NORMAL sounding 15 min videos, 5 min isn't a big deal.
Beautiful aircraft, one of those planes that is well ahead of its time.
Not really as it was essentially a dead-end. Apart from the ejector seat (and that wasn't a first), then there's really nothing from this aircraft that influenced future designs.
Please provide units of measurement and velocity in US (Imperial) and metric units. Love your channels. Thanks!
Also in the Netherlands, before the war Fokker made a similar design push-pull with two engines. The Fokker D23 or DXXII. See here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_D.XXIII
Cool
There was a fokker aircraft in ww1 who had push and pull engines and a twin boom, its the Fokker K.I
@@startingbark0356 thanx, I saw on Wikipedia that it was an experimantal airoplane.
"Excellent performance" and yet it flies like a brick in War Thunder...
Truth. My brother and I have petitioned Gaijin multiple times over this discrepancy compared my my families technical records at the museum.
@@RJDKHS96 Did u get any response from them? I am curious. Considering that so many times they got the German armour wrong and underperforming it looks like malice/sabotage. I was wondering do they nerf for the sake of game "balance" or something else?
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣
they are Russian at gaijin and don't give a crap about the German anything lol i killed lots of tanks with it in WT lol
i remember this plane from panzer General and late game domination. couldn't understand what was going on with that plane from the silhouette in game but i knew it was special.
Great video and iconic plane. For future videos, please offer feet and mph along with meters and kmh for performance specs.