Brett Yormark Addresses More Big 12 Expansion
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark said during a press conference on Friday, unsolicited, that the Big 12 is open for business. Heartland College Sports' Pete Mundo asked him directly if he's actively looking to expand. Hear what he said and what it means for the future of the Big 12!
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Pete, when are you going to take the Texas and Oklahoma signs down?
When they officially leave. July
Weeks away!! Hang tight, brother. In the meantime, get on the Big 12 forums!!
www.heartlandcollegesports.com/members-forum/
It doesn’t make sense…… because as teams continue to get better they will start to knock each other off…..this is making it seem like b12 teams will keep running in place year after year.
I thought OU and Texas weren't getting paid this year as part of their negotiations.
You never know what kind of deals are being made behind closed doors
That’s true… gonna be a fun ride! Thanks for watching! -Pete
Thanks for keeping us in the loop with this Big 12 content.
Thanks for watching!
One or two of our teams need to make noise in the CFP. It's the only way we'll get any respect. The others won't care about the great weekly product we put on the field, beating the hell out of each other every week.
It is unlikely that the new BIg XII advances two teams to the CFP.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Big 12 has a four-team conference playoff once they get to twenty teams. The semis could be played Thanksgiving weekend.
If it makes us more money then yes!
Just says the door is open for discussion…but ACC has to move first! FSU, Clemson, UNC, ND,….Miami….with Virginia in the mix. The ACC has to blow up…before anyone moves!
In the lawyers and negotiations hands…and ESPN blessing!
It would make more sense just to try to rebuild the Big XII brand instead of this obsession with expansion?
It’ like, if the Big XII does not grade Fla State, Clemson and other AC teams right away, then the Big XII is not good.
Memphis getting in or ACC first?
Where are we on playing a football game in Mexico?
The money looks to be less than ACC why would they come over?
Why would FSU or Clemson move to the BIG 12 when the ACC is paying them more money now? The primary reason for the lawsuits is their claim that the ACC has fallen behind in negotiating a competitive media rights deal and therefore they should be entitled to leave. Joining the BIG 12 after that would be moving backwards, they'd get more money out of finding proper ACC expansions right now and sticking around.
ACC deal through 2036 won't pay them more over the lifetime of the deal.
@@heartlandcollegesports Per the projections, the ACC still pays more than even the BIG12's current market deal. Regardless, the difference isn't material.
@StevenM-bz3dc
a) Wow! And ND hockey is in the B1G and NEB was AAU when it joined the B1G. This story is now ~3 years old. Everyone knows that ACC relationship with ESPN.
b) The ACC also has relationships with the ACCN and The CW through sub-contracts, etc.
c) It's an open question whether a non-renewal auto-voids the GOR. FSU's assertions have yet to be judicially confirmed. Moreover, actual recent events suggest that ESPN has already agreed to renew absent weird stuff.
d) The ACC's deal is known to be deeply discounted, so it can likely tolerate the loss of UNC, CLEMSON & FSU. The BIG12 lost its top 6 (net), so serves as a benchmark.
e) ESPN renews the ACC deal at the current discounted rate for the same reason is negotiated with the new BIG12.
Honestly, this has all been discussed ad nausea for a very long time.
The Big 12 will never catch up to the Big 10 & SEC in revenue, but if we can still see the taillights & stay relevant I can live with it.
Relevant? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You make me wonder if come Aug you have the Utes upside down. You seem to already hate them.
Cant blame him or anyone else. Damn Ute fans keep flappin their gums and pissing everyone off.
That's nuts. Having some fun with Utah. You don't understand the Big 12 hatred to the Longhorns if you think Utah is anywhere close to being in the ballpark.
Sign up for the forums though and get to know some more Big 12 fans! www.heartlandcollegesports.com/members-forum/
The defecting ACC teams (Florida St and crimson) are not going to pay multi millions to the ACC conference only to go to the Big12 for a few millions more per year. Those teams are going to go to B1G and the UNC and Virginia are going to SEC.
Perhaps for less money actually, but certainly not a material difference. Definitely worse overall sports, academics, and prestige.
@@tarheel7406 Clemson and FSU don't academically qualify for the B1G, not without AAU membership.
@@user-nt7eo2vf5f The B1G has increasing compelling demo concerns to justify exceptions. The B1G has already made de facto AAU exceptions for Neb & ORE. This has already been discussed many times during the course of this story.
Baylor=Rutgers=Vanderbilt
Sorry, but Houston, Cincinnati and Iowa St are in that group!!!
Baylor has three Big 12 championships in the last 11 years and won the Big 12 and the Sugar Bowl just Three Years ago. We’re not the best in the world, but we’re not Rutgers and Vandy either 😂
@@buckeyeintexas4709 agreed do I hear 4 Big 12 teams 😂
@@jacobwillett4173 okay fine you're you're a Mississippi State or South Carolina or Indiana/Illinois comparison 😂
Baylor won the Big 12 in the last 3 years, wtf you talking about!
Can't see FSU & Clemson leaving the ACC for the Big XII. Their problem is that they want the money that the Big 10 and SEC have. The Big XII doesn't offer more money than the ACC is getting, much less the Big 10 or SeC.
If Yormark could pull a crazy upset and somehow snag FSU &/or Clemson it would be so freakin hilarious.
And a cautionary tale.
Tell Nebraska fans their team hasn’t been relevant for the last ten years they loose their minds
LOL they do, but it's TRUE!!!!
If your team isn't affiliated with aau , your not going anywhere
So dumb (sorry).... The BIG12 lost its top (6) and is now the worst P4 (by far) ~yet~ the ACC will fully scatter if it "only" loses CLEMSON and FSU?
The new BIG12 is already too large/wide for a Tier 2. No purpose served by getting even larger/wider.
You lost thinking people at 5:20 of the video, fsu and Clemson could be in play for the b12 😂😂😂😂😂😂come on, bud... It's not happening ever. Book it...Gooooo Bluuuuuueeeeee Baby!
If the B1G won't accept Clemson and Florida State (no AAU status), they may have no alternative than to join the B12.
My Projections: Clemson & Florida State to B1G, North Carolina & Virginia to SEC, BY signs Notre Dame in Olympic Sports similar deal they have with ACC currently, and adds Gonzaga for Basketball Only, to match Notre Dame, then they offer all sports to Miami, Virginia Tech, North Carolina State, & Louisville for 4, if he goes 6 or if SEC offers Va & Va Tech as well as UNC & NC St, he offers two of PItt, Georgia Tech, & Duke
Curious...
a) Since the BIG12 has already lost its top 6 (net), if the ACC "only" loses its top 4, why would any remainder move to the BIG12?
b) Given all of its entanglements, how can ND shift to the BIG12 and why should it?
c) Why would any ACC remainder move to the already Tier 2 BIG12?
Notre Dame wants to keep the ACC intact, and ESPN wants the ACC intact.
I’m 75% with you. I actually think Pitt is higher up on the wishlist. Miami will go to the BIG at the request of FSU and NC State will do the same with UNC to the SEC. Virginia also goes to the SEC while VT stays in the ACC. Ultimately only Louisville, Pitt and Gonzaga basketball will end up in the Big12. ACC will survive as the weakest P4 by adding Memphis Tulane USF Oregon State and Wazzu. UConn is a wild card. Could go Big12 or ACC.
Edit: Rice is also an ACC wild card
@@Rodkicks88 Again, PITT and L'VILLE were among the strongest supporters of adding CAL+2. That suggests that they also consider the new BIG12 as the option of last resort.
@@tarheel7406 No, staying in the ACC is the last resort. Louisville and Pitt athletics pride themselves in exclusive proximity with to the top brand schools. With 75% of the ACC’s top schools eying departure, the collective of Big12 schools becomes more attractive. Also, the more the Big12 adds decent power 5 schools, the more collateral they hold for CFP contract renegotiation. They may never close the gap between the big 2, but they can solidify 3rd place and get a higher share from what the current ACC gets.
2022-23 P4 Revenue:
B10 $879.9M for 14 teams
SEC $852.6M for 14 teams
ACC $707M for 14.5 teams*
B12. $470M for 12 teams*
*ACC has a partial payment with ND
*B12 has 4 partial payments to the 4 G5 teams they added.
Didn't realize that the B12 was so far behind the other P4 conferences..YIKES
Next year will be very different
@@Rodkicks88 | I hope so. This is more a good look.. at all
And after that for the next seven years B1G has a deal worth $1bill for the 18 teams. Thats right seven $1bill!!! 💰 cha Ching and more
The ACC’s average distribution to its 14 full members “increased 9.7%" to $39.4M, while revenue "climbed 6.7%" to $617M, according to David Teel of the RICHMOND TIMES-DISPATCH. For all the "hand-wringing over the ACC’s long-term contract with ESPN," television rights "were the driving force” for the increases, rising 11.7% to $443.7M. The conference's TV revenue has “more than doubled in the past seven years and figures to increase markedly again in 2022-23,” the "first full fiscal year in which the nation’s leading cable provider, Xfinity/Comcast, carried the ACC Network." Yet even as the ACC trends upward, the Big Ten and SEC “continue to dominate college athletics’ relentless, and often exhausting, financial arms race” and that revenue gap has “long hovered over the ACC.” ACC ADs have “crafted a plan to abandon the conference’s decades-old policy of essentially sharing all revenue equally." News of the distribution and revenue increases is “unlikely to dent the ACC’s collective angst” --- Sports Business Journal
The XII is projected to be $50m per team starting in 2025 while the ACC willing remain the same or regress.
SEC and B1G are staying silent. When the court ruling has concluded, either of those conferences will make the first move. Big12 will end up taking the leftovers.
For what purpose an even larger/wider Tier 2 BIG12?
If we can get Duke and/ or UNC look for overtures to Kentucky. If the Big12 really pushes basketball this could be huge. Never say never.
@@retireorbust Delusional....
Pete I love seeing my beloved Texas Longhorns sign up there.
One more month!
@@heartlandcollegesports one more month and you’ll miss Texas and OU. You know you will. If nothing else, who will be the new villain when Texas is gone. Maybe Utah with their cocky attitude and acting as if they want out before they’ve ever played a game.
@@Bigtill1999 Hate seems to be the one uniting factor for the Big XII leftovers. With UT and OU gone, newcomers Utah and Colorado could be the new teams to hate. I think who replaces UT and OU as the new teams to hate in the Big XII should be a potential thread for heartlandcollegesports.
@@sarahmccoy1941 that would be a great topic of conversation. Utah and CU have definitely taken the lead in hate from B12 teams. Utah because they’re actually good and their administrators have made it clear they don’t want to be in the B12 to begin with. Colorado on the other hand because of all the hype surrounding Coach Sanders and his son, who is a very god QB but has yet to prove to be elite.
The SEC will make only ONE EXCEPTION for expansion right now and that would be for Notre Dame only if they decide to end their independence. They are the only school who can get into any conference if they wanted to, thats how much power and influence they have over all what is now the P4 (formerly P5).
Unlikely that the SEC would erode its geo-centric brand for ND. Historically the SEC wanted ND out of the B1G, but I don't think it cares anymore.
AS things stand, only UNC (and UVA to a lesser) can go to either the SEC or B1G.
Pete you need a show on your own when you take Oklahoma & Texas signs down & put up 4 corner schools.
I think we can make this happen, Dan!
BTW, would love to see you on the HCS forums! www.heartlandcollegesports.com/members-forum/
Brett knows that FSU, Clemson, Miami and UNC will all make a beeline over here to the Big 12. The Big 10 doesn't have ESPN. Why does ESPN matter? Oklahoma is in the Midwest but had to go from the Big 12 to the SEC because both conferences have ESPN.
Delusional.... All would be better off waiting out the ACC's GOR.
Open for Biz!!
Big 12 Blue Bloods for Football:
None to be honest. The closest would be Oklahoma State, Kansas State (thanks to legendary Bill Snyder), Colorado (thanks to national champion Bill McCartney)
For basketball it’s KANSAS all the way and maybe Baylor.
Baylor has an elite basketball program. Not a blue blood.
@@patrickrood9865 truth. Thats why I said maybe. They’ve done well lately but not a traditional blue blood. Just didn’t want to discount them entirely.
K State has a below .500 all time win percentage in football. Besides recent success they're closer to a Wake Forest.
What’s better football program wise…
Averaging 4 losses a year in P2 or competing almost year for conference championships in Big 12?
You already know the answer but don’t wanna accept it.
@@pwho405
Arkansas, Rutgers, Texas A&M, Maryland are all making a lot of money… haven’t won anything.
Heck… Liberty has a better chance of making the playoffs this year than any of those schools.
That’s my answer.
@@moffprof02 so do the teams in the b12 that also haven’t won anything feel any different with less money?
I would be will to bet you they do.
@@pwho405 I’m talking fanbases
Liberty goes undefeated and makes the playoffs and loses 56-10 in the first round.
Arkansas goes 7-5 and makes the Cheez-It bowl.
Which fanbase is happier?
Sure the athletic program made more money. So what.
How does your favorite teams athletic program making a lot of money affect your happiness?
The conference is already too big
Unfortunately, the days of small regional conferences are gone. However, by adding more (ACC?) schools, then the Big 12 can be broken up into regional pods or divisions. Eventually, the Big Ten and SEC will have 20 or more schools. We will likely follow suit.
You realize the big ten sec and acc are the same size or bigger right…
Agreed. The BIG12 is already too large and wide for a Tier 2.
@@bryanjones8778, they are all too big
@@professorfinesser4322 yep and they are too big as well
When the biggest things to happen for the big-12 can only happen in the other conferences. Sad.
Texas & Oklahoma- Leaving as the best.
Arizona & Utah- only coming reluctantly yet will be the best teams.
Only Colorado brings any eyeballs and are hated by the trailer park conference.
Begging for second tier ACC school
Scraps won't help.
Scavengers of a Relegation league.
Very sad. Just the truth.
I'm a Big 10 fan (Ohio State) but the Big 12 is not the trailer park conference.
@@CarlaJenkinsTV I don't use terms like "trailer park", but the new BIG12 is objectively the worst P4 (by far).
@@CarlaJenkinsTV
While your commentary has always been polite, measured and insightful. Recall they haven't been as kind to you actually.....
big-12 fanatics/commenters have truly earned their proper designation & title. This is the truth.
While your commentary has always been polite, measured and insightful. Recall they haven't been as kind to you actually.....
big-12 fanatics/commenters have truly earned their proper designation & title. This is the truth.
@@rx2878 Why are you and tarheel here, if not to troll?
Pete, if Texas women’s softball wins the College World Series will you flip the sign???
He will be taking it down July 1st.
He will be taking it down July 1st.
@@JohnDry but if the Horns win the WCWS then we could get nearly a month of the sign being correct. Lol. HOOK EM.
Ehhhhhhhhh 🙂
@@heartlandcollegesports come on Pete it would be natty and you gotta respect those Lady Horns for winning it all. FLIP THAT SIGN. FLIP THAT SIGN!!!!!
That was the most pointless podcast I've heard in a while. You could have said what you said in one minute or less. Big 12 wants to expand if ACC falls apart.