Avengers vs X Men Full Story (Comics Explained)
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2022
- So Black Panther 2 Wakanda Forever has a new trailer that gives us more insight into why there is a conflict between Wakanda and Atlantis. We don't get all the details, but we get enough to know that Black Panther and the Wakandans are going to war with Namor and the Atlantians. But have you ever wondered why Namor and Black Panther hate each other so much in the first place? Well this video will explain the events of Avengers vs XMen and how the blood feud between Namor and Black Panther started! We even tough a bit on how it ends, but for that story, you'll have to check out our videos on Hickman's Avengers & New Avengers.
▸ Avengers vs. X-Men (AvX or AvsX) is a 2012 crossover event that was featured in comic books published by Marvel Comics. The event, consisting of an eponymous limited series and numerous tie-in books, involves the return of the Phoenix Force and the subsequent war between the Avengers and the X-Men. The event was preceded by the four-issue limited series Avengers: X-Sanction and Avengers vs. X-Men #0. Avengers vs. X-Men also ties into the limited series AVX: VS, described as "the fight book" which expands upon many of the one-on-one battles featured in the main series, the digital series; Avengers vs. X-Men: Infinite, and into a number of ongoing series including Avengers, Avengers Academy, New Avengers, Secret Avengers, Uncanny X-Men, Wolverine and the X-Men and X-Men: Legacy. The event was succeeded by the limited series AvX: Consequences.
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I was always a huge Spider-man fan growing up but since I’ve started listening to your videos, I’ve expanded my interests into X-Men and Avengers!
Nooby
Thanks for this full compilation. I stay fairly busy while at work so I can’t constantly scroll or look for a podcast. Having these parts compiled into a single video let’s me enjoy the content and learn more about Marvel without losing focus on my daily tasks.
What did he give you?
You can always count on Rob to give us a comic issue/series related to the release of a new MCU trailer.
its starting to rub me the wrong way tbh its like his channel is only focusing on things from the movies
@@AstralCloudz nope, if you’re an active viewer of his channel you’d know that’s not the case.
Yeah you definitely can
@@AstralCloudz Arguably leads to more clicks and feeds from the UA-cam algorithm. Nuffin wrong with that. Rob gotta eat.
I love how Namor doing this stains black panther and Namors relationship for ever. It builds such a great story of kings and not superheros, And explored what it means to rule,
T'Challa put the blade where it belongs lol
Agreed. It adds a whole new dimension to both characters and poses a looming threat to both kingdoms
They're frenemies
Robs been listening to his audience he’s stopped the unnecessary random black bolt slander. Love that
This is an old video.
Nah it's necessary
Naw Black Bolt sucks
Nah f black bolt
Rob shouting out Arin is something I never knew I needed.
Lol Why exactly would you need that again? Other than you sucking up
He has a few times and I love it every time
@@carsonwroten6867 yeah I know he did it a few years back when Arin first asked the comic question Rob always refers to lol
When does that happen?
@@WannabeWryter right around 50 seconds to a minute, not sure of the exact time, and yeah, he’s done it for a long time tbh, praise the consistent Rob
Your channel has really inspired me to get back into comic books after a 20 year hiatus. 🙌This is one of the stories I have been looking at but haven’t gotten around to
Your c0¢k is huuuuge
Always thankful to Rob for getting me back into various comics. I missed this X-men series so it’s good to see this
It’s the little things for me when it comes to Ryan Cooglers ability to direct a film. The fact that Namor flies akin to a hummingbird because of the hummingbirds prominence in Central American religion and ideology is just phenomenal.
Exactly!!
Yeah that gave me goosebumps too!!
Too bad Namor has NOTHING to do with any surface culture.
Also, hummingbirds are only a part of ONE Central American countries religion and ideology...
That movie was completely ruined by shuri being the Black Panther. Could have been awesome but if they weren't going to recast tchalla which I respect that decision but there's no reason to continue the Black Panther movies without the real black panther. That's more disrespectful than just recasting him
Namor may have destroyed Wakanda, but his real mission was successfully destroying Black Panther and Storm's marriage.
the timing of this with the Black Panther trailer dropping, is impeccable
Honestly it was this story that got me hooked to your channel a few years ago when you posted this in 2 videos separately, been a subscriber ever since
Absolutely love that Rob is such an unbreakable street level hero of the people that he would use his fraction of the pheonix to not worry about price at best buy
Just what I needed for the evening. Thanks.
thanks for making this it cheered me up so much.
Shoutout to Mr. Editor for being like us in that we only know facts about the HALO Jump from Metal Gear Solid. Excellent work, Editor. Age hasn't slowed you down one bit.
And this story taught us 2 very important things: Cyclops can hold onto a grudge for months. Black Panther can hold onto a grudge for _years._
Great quality and informative video
👏 love listening to you explain these stories.
Your channel is my favourite on youtube. If you ever do a Q and A i would be there for sure.
This was fantastic!
❤️ i needed a life distraction ! Thank you
Can’t wait until the MCU does Avenger vs X-Men!
I am only 15 minutes into the video and I don't know if you're going to cover it but there is I think it was a standalone issue where the second half of the comic book was basically Cyclops talking about having the Phoenix force be a part of him and he goes to the moon and everything the art is amazing and it is one of my favorite X-Men stories ever
This is awesome. Even with event fatigue this story still feels special.
Beyond Omega Level: Rob’s Hype
I didn't know you chatted with Charlie from Emergency Awesome. I'm a big fan of both of you guys! Nice to hear pop culture UA-cam is chill.
Just thinking about this story!!!!!
Awesome
Its been a while since we got a longer video. It was done really well too.
Awesome.
Jeans face at 5:55 is WILD 💀
Someone really drew that sat there and said “ ya this looks good” 😹
You conveniently drop this the day the Black Panther 2 trailer drops
Conveniently or obviously because?
Nice
Ema Frost's body count is crazy. She reminds me of that snoop dogg song🎶 "you wan it, I gat it, dripping like water" 🎵
Candy
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Let's go guys 👍
The lates 2000s/early 2010s was a weird time for the X-men. It was almost like the writers wanted them to become marvels villains
Rob I’d love to listen to your videos on Spotify I’m not sure how hard it is or if that’s something you even want to do but if you could put your work on Spotify I’d listen 24/7
Damn, heard the Kings and Generals music at around 20 mins. Wild hearing that here lol
Brightburn Request👿Beyond Omega Level:Kulan Gath!
I feel like the ending was pretty nice. It was a story of Wanda having a part in pushing the mutants to desperation and Hope having the power to wield both Phoenix and Wanda's powers. Phoenix 5 cyclops touched Wanda and burned as seen in one of the panels showing a potential polarity in power. I feel like, in nature of K'un Lun, Hope and Wanda are Yin and Yang and the resistance of Chaos Magic to the Phoenix force and both their reality warping powers, it was expelled. I'd say it's the start of Wanda's redemption but you failed to show it as that because we focused on the potential parallel of this Namor and MCU's upcoming Namor. I get it, but it's really necessary to put into perspective her role in this story as like this Avatar: the Last Airbender Aang and Zuko arcs with Aang being Hope (I mean, she's kind of an Avatar wielding all these powers) and Wanda being Zuko (villain going through redemption).
Except Wanda didn’t expel the Phoenix Force, Hope did. It’s shown in another comic panel. Also, you can read Wanda telling Hope that only *she* has the power to let it go, clearly Wanda meant that she couldn’t do it for her.
@@kydwykyd yea because wanda is incapable of wielding phoenix. I know it's a stretch but phoenix 5 cyclops touching wanda and there's an opposing force that burns cyclops and lets her walk away without a fight. I saw this as the key to ultimately defeating the phoenix but everyone was so focused on hope. Wanda had a hand in it too because without her I doubt hope could have expelled phoenix with the power of... phoenix. Hope is very powerful but she needed the right type of power to copy to fulfill the feat. Yea ofc Wanda can't do it for her bcz the phoenix force is a multiversal entity BUT my point in my comment was that it's unfair to call this story bad when Wanda's redemption arc simultaneous to Hope's discovery of her power is amazing to me and how it wrapped up in the end. They used Strange's illusions with Wanda's mere presence to intimidate the Phoenix 5. She was the only one they feared.
Wanda 🔥
i loved the symmetry of wanda saying "no more phoenix" and restoring the mutants....
Phoenix Cyclop's suit is Nightwings
Was looking for and failing to find a Beyond Omega level or character explained video for the main man and somehow you haven't done a video for Lobo yet?! What madness is this?
Timing!
No flares on a HALO jump. That's for skydiving demos, it's pretty and it let's us spectators see them clearly, the exact opposite of what would be wanted in a combat jump.
At the time I bought all of the different types of Avengers vs X-Men. It was a good series of comics and side stories. Plus some of them had blank covers which was cool.
Could you do the Spider-Man side story? It’s epic
Hey Scott!! You could be, like, an… advisor or something! Get it? Ad-visor? …visor?
😂😂
Rob you should re master it
Why I love cyclops. I’ve read Phoenix saga/dark, inferno, x-cutioner song. Astonishing, jus everything to do wit Phoenix. Jus coo to see how far we come since Claremont.
Cyclops was right.
Also cyclops had the void in his head.
One thing I recently learned is there has been tensions between Atlantis and Wakanda before AvX, like the time the Hulk jumped from Atlantis and Wakanda launched a retaliation missile at Atlantis
Great video. Quick heads up, Franklin Richards isn't a mutant anymore. Was retconned to be he had altered his own genome subconsciously or something, I don't remember which issue but it was in the latest FF run when Franklin tried to use the Forever gate to travel to Krakoa
Is this a rerelease of an older video? I’m getting a weird sense of deja-vu
See I always saw Hope wearing the white costume to mean this was Jean as WPOTC working through Hope to fix the world that was broken by returning mutants, the fact that it was only for a few moments meant that Jean as WPOTC left as the work was done.
Phoenix is the sum psionic power of every living thing in this universe. It's power set was explained in that Marvel comics characters encyclopedia comics series thing (I don't recall the actual name of the thing...but they printed them once every few years or so) back in the lat 80's early 90's
I like your voice man
I’m not you know
But you got a nice comic reader voice
I enjoyed listening to your rendition of this storyline. The only thing I noticed you got wrong (and other people commenting) is Wanda expelling the Phoenix from Hope. Wanda clearly tells Hope in AvX that only she (Hope) has the power to let it go. It’s also shown in another comic where the cuckoo sisters who are witnessing this fight from cerebral explain that “Hope did it. She saved us. She saved the whole world. She dissipated the Phoenix. She broke it apart and sent it into the…omg look…new mutants.” I feel this is important to take note because even when Wanda used all her power against Scott who has 1/2 of the Phoenix Five power, she “couldn’t phase him with all she had”. So clearly she isn’t strong enough to expel the host from someone.
Also, I believe it was Jean Grey who telepathically calmed Scott Dark Phoenix down and told him to let go as well. She is in the white hot room where he tried to visit when he obtained the power of the Phoenix and she rejected him and sent him back to Earth. Jean has been the only person on comic panel literally pulling/taking the Phoenix Force out of other hosts (Emma Frost/Rachel Summers). Even through space time in another universe when she called it from Rachel.
correct! wanda fans just don't read.
@@cosmicentity1077 lol, I don’t mind ignorant stans, I expect it from them. However, I did expect Rob to know better when explaining the story. Granted he probably didn’t read the comics I did that explained what was going on in AvX in more detail.
At 17:01 I just realized that Cyclops has a Ruby Quartz visor with a matching Ruby Quartz cod piece!
It would be interesting if the mcu introduced mutants into the world by Wanda doing a reverse of house of m. She gets overwhelmed at how everyone she’s using as shields or pawns keeps failing, so she says fine, I need more powerful pawns, more mutants. And a bunch of people across earth gain a mutant gene.
Peter was cold as ice in the beginning especially after he got his brother's powers
I loved Spider-Mans part. Very underrated part in the story.
In case you will read this... Have you ever done one over the time where Cyclops is missing an eye and Wolverine missing a hand? I thought it was the X-Men: Schism video but it's not. I saw that cover in the 90's but never read it but i was a surprise that these two came to that result. I was always amazed that Wolverine could lose a hand by the optic blast. This idea made me think that Cyclops was Wolverine's main antagonist (on top of all the Jean Grey stuff). If you haven't done it, this could be a good idea for a video maybe? Cheers dude. Love the videos.
Sounds like AoA Cyclops and Logan
Baron Mordo explained please!
Wonderful video as always Rob but I got to disagree with you about your Avengers X-Men take. The Avengers have THOR and the HULK.. who are both basically just power incarnate and not to mention they both have insane telepathic immunity. I can't see how the Avengers were meant to be weaker than the X-Men. To your point about the X-Men and the mutants just having wildly ludicrous powers, there are all kinds of powerhouse Avengers that have wildly ludicrous powers as well, like Blue Marvel, Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch, Sentry, THOR, Hercules, HULK, Vision etc.
I always wonder, did he read ALLLLL of these comics or did he just do good research on each subject? Because man, this is a lot of information to retain.
Peter Petrelli was a beast.
I love that Grant Morrison implied Magneto and his mutant denizens were drinking Irn-Bru
Rob...Rippaverse...cover it buddy...like only you can.
14:49 juggernaut definitely should of got some of that Phoenix force energy
That would've been amazing.
Always in Rob videos he said some power is so powerful and then something happen that kills that power in seconds :)
Hope turns into the White Phoenix, not the crown version. There's only one White Phoenix of the Crown, and that's Jean Grey watching from the White Hot Room. The Crown in White Phoenix of the Crown is still unknown but it was mentioned in Hulk where he meets the One Below All. I personally think that the Crown is the White Hot Room, The White Phoenix of the Crown controls the very existence and timeline of the Marvel Multiverse.
Namor looks great in the trailer! Lesssgoooo!!
Good for Namor. Hated that place.
Wooooo, egoraptor!
HALO jumps are fun as hell
can we get a video of all characters who make it to the end of time / universe?
Been asking for more Namor for a while 🙏🏾
Wow! Looking at all this just made me realize I never saw just how anglo and white the comic space is at least mainstream comics.
Rob would you be willing to make a list of the comics we have to read to understand some of these stories? Like just the issues we have to read to get the full story for ourselves
Beyond omega level:the divine creator
It's nice to see a believer
Wakanda Forever!!
Those mutants were chosen because they were a part of Cyclops Extinction Team during that run.
I have never been a fan of Wanda being so powerful.
y not she was literally touched by chthon as at birth
@@karofy754 Because she was never originally designed to be that powerful.
@@planetdee3587 even in her earliest days it’s stated that had she ever reached her fullest potential, her hex powers would allow her to make her slightest whim reality. that is the core of wanda’s power modern day
@@planetdee3587 because every character should be limited in scope to the writers who designed them 50 years ago, duh! /s
@@evan6338 exactly!
I have a close friend who served in the military, and he said HALO jumps are scary
We are called the Phoenix Force 5. Because we are the Phoenix, we are a Force to be reckoned with and there are 1,2,3,4, 5 of us.
Mama tomato, papa tomato, and baby tomato are walking down the street…..
I want a comics explained on the kool-aid man and his adventures
Character Explained: Hero Zero (Dark Horse Comics)
Character Explained: Johnny Thunder (DC Comics)
I’m early as hell sheesh
Wow this was a really good story with an ending really just falls off
Where is the best place to get full event stories online?! Please let me know!!!
The only thing I don’t like about the story is that it writes cyclops well but just makes him the bad guy in the end because they realized he was right. The avengers DO stop the mutants from thriving, and cyclops was not wrong ONCE in this story until they started turning Scott mad from power
I had no idea ego raptor read x men he never struck me as someone who would read comic considering he struggles to read the in game tutorials lol
PLEASE make a video on who is the most powerful!!!! My money is on The One Above All!!!!
I admit I’ve only watched 11 minutes of this video but it leaves out a bunch of important info, like how Cap had an entire helicarrier filed with avengers with him when he went to Utopia which escalated things, he leaves out the points Scott makes about X for extinction etc.
Not only does this video leave out why cap and wolverine were fighting but implies it’s because wolverine was changing sides But it’s actually because cap can’t trust Logan not to try and kill hope again, wolverine loses the fight (which involved giant man not just cap) and is kicked out the plane only to fight hope anyway, he literally tells her he is going to kill her and she talks him into helping her instead.
Where as this video makes it seem like wolverine was just flipping back and forth between sides which is just so wrong.
Cyclops’s plan, to train hope to use the Phforce to bring back mutants because there were less than 200 of them left in existence worked. The avengers should have worked with the xmen to train hope, not charged into a sovereign nation and demand they hand over their national treasure.
Anyone reading this, go read the books, this video does not do this story justice, the avengers act like tyrants.
Cap even formed the uncanny avengers because he knew what Scott said to him on the beach was not wrong.
Cyclops was right, the force of death and rebirth did bring back the mutants, I honestly think that if Scott and Steve just sat down and talked man to man without the army at Steve’s back, without Steve demanding to take hope. The fight would have been avoided and they could have trained hope together.
100% agreed and this should be pinned. Cyclops was right
Crossover idea
Avengers and X-Men vs Aliens and Predator vs Godzilla and Kong
They were also dealing with their Sony and Fox contracts I believe
Beyond Omega Level: Icon (DC Milestone Comics)
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I hear shoutouts to EGO Raptor in my dreams.
The cyclops heel turn