Doctor Who: The Tenth Planet - REVIEW - Cybercember
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2020
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The first appearance of the Cybermen, the first regeneration...but is 'The Tenth Planet' actually any good? MrTARDIS investigates.
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"It's all over? That's what you said. It's FAR from being all over!"
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How about a masterful march in order to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the master?
The original cybermen design is easily the creepiest design they've had. They genuinely look like hospital patients that were given these cybernetic parts against their will and it's so effective!
Faxssss
I heard they were actually supposed to have robotic type hands, but the costume designer never got around to making them. So the fact that they still have human hands adds to the creepy effect.
I agree.
Absolutely better then the modern one is to iron man for me
The Doctor's inactivity in this story actually elevates it even further for me. This is essentially a Troughton story, from the setting, to the companions, to the villains and all that is the universe's way of telling the Doctor that the world is changing and that he needs to change along with it. If you really read between the lines, all of his absent scenes are just him taking a final rest while contemplating his destiny. And when he does finally return, Hartnell's performance sells the Doctor's sombre determination to get with the times while also being sad to let himself go.
Yes, throughton era or how i like to call it, Base Under Siege
The space suit used in the tenth planet was later used as Bossk in star wars the empire strikes back
That space suit was all over sci fi media for 20 odd years. Not only Star Wars, but I'm pretty sure it was in star trek and a load of other stuff.
@@AlexRooneyComposer That space suit has some stories to tell.
@@AlexRooneyComposer star wars was the only one I could remember at that time.
@@MrThorfan64 I feel like that could be a neat idea for a video. Mind if I make it someday? No promises, but I'd like to show the history of that space uniform.
6:10 The eyes. What could be seen as just a costuming error, it makes the Cybermen far more terrifying. Because they were us. They will be us.
You mean we could end up like them.
I find it interesting how the first doctor's first (the daleks) and last (the cybermen) aliens that he faced off against were two of the most iconic monsters of doctor who.
And he was essentially the villain of part one of an unearthly child, and humanity was the villain for the other parts
And both The concept of an evil doctor and humanity being the bag. I are also very popular
It's like getting an extra present everyday until Christmas
Having read the TARGET novelisation first, it's hard to notice how little the Doctor actually does in this story.
But credit where credit is due, William Hartnell managed to keep his Doctor's character going right up to the end.
Still the same man; Intelligent, confident, a little prickly but kind.
If you watch all the 60s Cybermen stories after listening to Spare Parts and then watch Attack after them all, they form such a perfect story arc. I also don’t think this serial would be nearly as effective without the use of Space Adventures Pt. 2
Fun fact, some of them in the Tenth planet are survivors from Spare parts.
I’d also recommend The Silver Turk just after Spare Parts. It’s set between it and the tenth planet and features the first two cybermen to reach earth that send back the signal to Mondas
I think Polly only being able to offer Coffee is more about her being a layabout socialite than her being a woman. Ben being Royal Navy at least has a useful skill set in this situation and Polly does get her moment to shine trying to comprehend a society that is about as anti-social as its possible to be.
I really feel like you’re not giving it enough credit when you call it an average base under siege story. It may appear that way now but it was the first “base under siege” story (before it was ever called that) that the show ever did. It’s completely unlike any other 1st Doctor story.
Starting off at 20 minutes from the get go? VERY HEALTHY!
The last episode surviving from the Hartnell era being Episode 3 of Tenth Planet, is the equivalent to if part of the Tennant era was lost, and his final surviving episode was Turn Left.
Damn. Good episode though but imagine missing the finale of Series 4 and the specials
I'm confused. My brother and I have been watching the first 15 episodes of the entire series together. Did they get uncovered recently?
@@sleeplessstudios7626 not that I’ve heard of, but some of the earlier are around. The first missing serial is the fourth storyline, Marco Polo
If the attack of the cybermen review doesn’t feature and HD remake of the horror movie intro with dripping blood from the old review, we riot
10:45
You mean you don't have a random huge planet killing nuke in your home?
I use mine as a table
Also it was made during the Cold War so it was far more common than today.
I wonder if the reasons that the science seems a bit iffy, is that terms like radiation were still quite new to audiences back then. I always use the example in Psycho they have to explain mixed personalities to the audience. This might be similar.
Also as a Star Wars fan, I’ve also got to mention that Bossk, from Empire Strikes Back, got his space suit from the BCC archives from this episode, worn by Earl Cameron’s character.
Strange to imagine it being bright yellow, it is hard to picture greyscale in colour
10:27 Pedler was a medical doctor with an interest in fringe topics like parapsychology, so he perhaps wasn't what I'd call a "hard" scientist. That might explain some of the vague or iffy science here, and we'll see more examples in the next cyber-story.
I remember 1986 well. Challenger, Chernobyl and then that bloody duplicate Earth and the Cyberman invasion.
Earl Cameron lived to be 102. He was 49 in this serial
Next Time: There are some corners in the universe which embed the most terrible things, As they make their quick and great return as the Cybermen are as creppy as their first appearance, Yep it's blast off to The Moonbase.
Creppy?
@@yannatoko9898 Sorry, It's 'Creepy' not 'Creppy' so that's my error.
'"Emotion love pride hate fear, Have you no emotions sir?"
Come to Mondas and you will have no need of emotions.
You will be calm like us.
Have you no emotions...............sir?
@@hazmat7949 I said that already.
09:26
The Energy lies in the Planet's orbit and movement. Although rare, extremely rare, once a planet runs out of energy, it stops moving altogether, which means that 1 Side would live in constant day and the other in constant night
6:08 their names are in the credits of the episodes. Krail, Jarl, Shav, Krang, Talon and Gern. It's not "expanded media," it's the end credits.
Also when Krail tells Krang (I think )to kill the soldier in Ep 2 he calls him by name if I remember rightly but the sound effect of the gun kinda distorts the dialogue.
@@bendream544 Absolutely, he either says "Regos Krang" or "Records, Krang?"
So i guess Krang didn’t like the giant bald Android body so went with something else
(Stupid easy joke)
I remember going through the credits for one of the 4 episodes to check and not seeing them, so I assumed they weren't credited in the rest of them. If that's the case, that's my mistake.
@@MrTARDIS I think it's because they're only in certain episodes and come in groups; the Cybermen only appear as characters in episodes 2 and 4, so it's possible episodes 1 and 3 don't credit them by name.
The Cybermen did have names in the story. Cybermen also have names in the drafts and novelisation of "The Moonbase."
Yeahh, I’m glad they didn’t use them, it’s a stupid idea.
10:45
"Everybody laughed when America wanted to make a bomb that would blow up a whole planet. Who's laughing now, huh?! God bless Ronald Reagan and his foresight!"
I love how your intro starts with the brilliant Roger Lloyd Pack. So looking forward to this.
As a reminder on the voices of the first Cybermen, Both Roy Skelton and Peter Hawkins plays both of them, While Roy Skelton voices them in Ep.2 Peter Hawkins & Roy Skelton plays them in Ep.4, And of course it won't be the last time two of them plays them respectively, More on that in Days 2 3 & 4.
I like to think the 1st doctor regenerated because he was rapidly aged by the time destructor in The Daleks Master Plan.
I think one of the Cybermen did have a spoken name on screen, but it happens once, and goes by quickly. It occurs when the leader communicates to another a Cyberman, named Jarl, somewhere in episode 2 or 3.
I checked the transcript for the story, and one of the Cybermen ARE named in dialogue. Specifically, the Cyberman known as Jarl calls Krang by his name.
The emotions around Hartnell's regeneration is end of time done right
Have finally got around to watching this. Brilliant start to CyberCember MrTARDIS, I can't wait to watch the future installments!
Fully agree on the science being incredibly odd outside of the concept of the Cybermen. Kit Pedler has a reputation amongst classic Who fans for using some really weirdly inaccurate science throughout his time on Doctor Who.
Side note, I'm convinced Kill the Moon is meant to be a tribute to Kit Pedler's inaccurate science.
Kill the Moon doesn't have anything good about it though, except the end credits
Unbelievably the twin planet idea was at one point a real theory. There were many strange ideas about space that were only fully debunked when regular space exploration began in the mid 1960s
This is one I really hope will be found. I feel, not only is it good, but Part Four is an important one that really needs to be discovered one day.
I too hope that the full serial of part 4 is found. I am a huge doctor who fan. If part 4 is found my life will be complete
Great video, the mondasian cybermen are my favourite out of all the cybermen. I loved them in this and in the audio 'spare parts'.
Curious, will we be seeing Cyber-Steve and Cyber-Jeff in future Cybercember vids? They’re still hilarious.
In my opinion, the head guy in charge could almost be a secondary villain. He's so quick to suspect treachery and it's funny that the invasion of the Cybermen in part 4 actually saves the Doctor, Ben, and Polly from being shot by him.
15:40 FINALLY!
Having never seen 10th Planet, I never knew where "It's far from being all over" line comes from. It's been repeated a lot of times in regards to regeneration (though maybe it's more to do with the ending of Brink of Death by big finish), but I am so happy I know the origin of the line now.
Can't wait to see the rest of this Cybercember, also I really do love The Tenth planet, especially the Cybermen's voices. It really focuses on their lack of emotions, which I think is what makes the best Cybermen stories.
Ita a shame so much of this early material was destroyed.
I know what I’m doing if i get a time machine
Yaayy. Great to see CyberCember here. Dalekcember gave me something to look forward to every morning in December. Hoping this run of reviews will do the same!
My Review:
I admire this story, I love it, it's so entertaining, the characters are well-written neatly, the Cybermen were downright so terrifying! They sent chills down my spine, I prefer the Mondasian Cybermen to be my most favorite Cybermen, they are the true definition of 'emotionless', they seem very friendly but they are for sure deadly, very deadly. I do like their voices and their dialogue.
"I do not understand you, there are people dying all over your world, yet you do not care about them." I have no words for this quote, it is true, the Cybermen can beat you in an argument. I would like to thank the voice actor who did the Cybermen's tone perfectly done. Just love the concept of the Mondasian Cybermen, what makes them scary is that they have a very human-like appearance, seem very friendly, they're the true definition of 'emotionless', and the way they speak with their mouth opens is unnerving.
The later Cybermen in the NuWho seems to have an angry tone, very hostile, they gunpoint at people and force them to be upgraded into Cybermen, I don't see the later Cybermen as "utterly terrifying".
This story also introduced the concept of 'Regeneration' which truly made Doctor Who immortal and still runs 57 years now. It was so sad to see Hartnell go, he's somewhat an underrated Doctor, people just now think of them as a grumpy old sexist man, but no! He's far greater than that, he has a complex personality? I do enjoy Hartnell being the Doctor, he does an astounding job at it. The Doctor gave out a wonderful defining moment where he was saying Goodbye to Susan and one day, he shall come back, yes he shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to him that he is not mistaken in himself.
Such a classic story that introduced a great concept of regeneration and the utterly terrifying Mondasian Cybermen, 10/10.
Great review, I’ve always been bothered by the lack of cybermen & Doctor in part 3. It basically amounts to people tediously arguing about whether they should launch a rocket/bomb. It’s because of this I usually skip from part 2 to 4
So glad to have the daily reviews back, loving your work (although I was sure this marathon would be called De-Cyber! Although gives me hope that this will continue as an annual Blank-Cember tradition).
Tenth Planet is an interesting story, very much the blueprint of the base under siege story before the production teams honed in on how to make the scenario work to its full potential. Future stories would build tension with “they’re already among us” scenarios such as The Moonbase or having a human element working in thrall to the enemy outside such as Web of Fear or Fury from the Deep. Tenth Planet focuses more on the excitement of space rockets and astronauts which is very much of its time when it was made but does compromise the potential horror of the Cybermen as you say. Still the best version of the Cybes though, even if their fairly comprehensive massacre in part 3 does diminish them a little.
Roll on the rest of the marathon, making what could be a difficult December in 2020 something to look forward to!
Favourite quote from The Tenth Planet..
'It's far from being all over!'
Loved ur dalekcember a few years back 😍😍 are there enough episodes for a full cybercember? So excited though
And so CyberCember begins! Very excited for this marathon
As arguably the most seismic Doctor Who story of all time, The Tenth Planet is not only important but good. It's one of my favourite Hartnell performances, the Cybermen have (arguably) never been better characterised and it's very well directed. A true classic that the show spent the next ten years trying to remake.
well that was brilliant! can't wait for your moonbase review!
I totally love these Cybermen. I love their voices in this serial. The old comic strip used this design so that's how I drew them when I was a child in the Sixties. Decades later, the Mike McMahon strip in the weekly .
The minute when you said they have *eyes* , is when their terrifyingly factor, multipled by x66.
It a sham William Hartnell couldn’t give a best performance. But his old body was wearing thin.
If anything he should be commended that despite all these health issues, he was still able to perform. He’s a tough old bird that’s for sure.
i'm surprised there wasn't even a reference to twice upon a time lol
really enjoying the video so far and honestly completely agree with you on this one. because i like the tenth planet but don't love it like the other classic cybermen stories, also im still so glad you did cybercember maybe next year dalekcember 2 the revelation?
This is one of my favourite ever Doctor Who stories and it’s probably because of both Hartnell and the Cybers. I love the Mondasian Cybermen. I think they’re the creepiest ever, with their flesh hands, their voice, and the fact that you can see their eyes in several scenes. I also love the performance from William Hartnell, especially the blow up he has:
Emotions, love, pride, hate, fear! Have you no emotions sir?
Nice review very well put! What is next? Sontaran September?
Auton August
@Hannah’s Dad no master may.
So excited for this series!
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The way you described this scene just makes Hartnel's preformance hit like a truck. 14:40
I think you fluffed Anneke Wills' name also the black actor said in later interviews that he didn't recall Hartnell having any issues with him at all so the evidence is somewhat conflicting. Love cyber stories can't wait for the upcoming reviews!
I see that the actor has a copy of Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos comic.
I really recommend the Big Finish audio Spare Parts, it's a fantastic dive into how the cybermen were created on Mondas. It's possibly the best cyberman story ever, far exceeding anything seen on the show.
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Can't wait for series 10 finale review. I love the most recent one in series 12 but that will always be my fave cybermen episode
oof i find the series 10 finale to be rather disappointing. it starts off wonderfully with world enough and time but i find the doctor falls laughably bad sorry
the invasion is my favourite
@@markcrorigan554 I'm sure that the one of the classics would be my fave bit I just can't get into it.
This is like a digital doctor who themed advent calendar. I love it!
Does it add or subtract anything from Hartnell's exit to know that, after exiting the base & before his resurrection, the Doctor crossed paths with a much later version of himself, who was also dreading his resurrection?
Honest curiosity.
11:12 I have to say I don’t see the issue, she offered to make the coffee.
This is interesting. I recently watched The Tenth Planet and came to the same conclusion. A very broadly written story that works okay on it's own (I feel like the resolution is too easy with Mondas disintegrating and the Cybermen just dying as a result), but is elevated by great villains and an amazing final cliffhanger with the Doctor regenerating. I just hope Patrick Troughton can live up to the excellent character and performance established by William Hartnell.
16:45 I wouldn't be surprised, there are a few other call backs in that episode
13:39 The stuff that happened with hartnell is why they don’t use older doctors anymore out side of cameos. The oldest the new series had outside of classic cameos was Peter Capaldi who was in his late 50s at the time of his era.
I was hoping for this last December
When I watch this story I always think it was a good soild start to the Cybermen's run in the classic series.
Annette Wills, dude come on your name is Mr Tardis😉
When I first joined r.a.dw years ago, one of the first things I did was barter for a VHS copy of the incomplete serials that had not (yet) been commercially released by the BBC. That VHS was more like watching a radio play of this serial, but I devoured that bootleg copy and wished the Beeb had seen fit to keep episode four. I'll agree the cliffhanger to episode three is an all-time great and this story works fairly well for what it is. Ah, memories. Looking forward to the rest of December.
This story is nowhere near perfection, and yet is one of my favourite stories from the Hartnell era
A superb review. Pointed out lots of good things. I watched this 3 years ago for big regeneration watchthrough and got contrast between emotional General and Cybermen. U can certainly see this as Cold War Metaphor of course. The Cybermen may well be stand-ins for Soviets, but the American figure here is shown as the other extreme, almost destroying the world through his recklessness. The Z Bomb naturally serves to show fears of nuclear war. We are told destroying the other sides home would also destroy us. Just another element to this story, the Cuban Missile Crisis was still fairly recent, from early on DW shows the fears of nuclear war, fire in An Unearthly Child could be seen as this to primitive man and of course the fate of Skaro in The Daleks. So... bookends for the era?
Harshly enough a space flight was lost in 1986.
Also someone forget to bring gloves for the Cybermen hence why they have bare hands. But it still works in showing how human they are.
The hands were an unintentional cockup, someone had forgot the gloves. They tried painting the hands silver but you can't really see that in black and white.
I have loved Doctor Who from the very beginning but I must confess as a child it was in spite of William Hartnell's portrayal of the Doctor. He reminded me too much of my own erasable Grandfather, and I admit that 9-year-old me was delighted that he was regenerated. However, time has mellowed me considerably and knowing what I know today I look at William Hartnell's portrayal of the Doctor with a different perspective that only age can provide. I now look on both William Hartnell and the first episodes of Doctor Who with great affection, and perhaps in retrospect a nostalgic longing for a time that is gone and that never really existed.
@1:41 It's Anneke Wills. Pronounced kind of like "Ah-Na-Ka", I believe.
Brilliant review Mr T. Personally I don’t think this is a great story. It’s definitely good with the cybermen and regeneration, but I find the Characters and plot fairly box standard. I don’t think it’s a 10/10 or 9/10. I’d personally give it a 7/10
The intro is amazing just like dalekcember
Nice, looking forward to this. Luckily I'm subscribed this time unlike last year.
Good review but I think one of the Cybermen's names is mentioned in episode 4 as Krang
Ironic isn’t it
Were the cybermen actors very tall or did they have platform shoes on?
A sontember?
Sontaran September
Auton April?
FebuYeti?
weeping April?
Ah my Favourite William Hartnell story.
06:12 couldn’t have said it better myself! That’s why they are my favorite Cyberman!
In Thunderbirds context, overseeing the Sunprobe.
I keep hearing people saying this is the last remaining episode of the Hartnell era but I've been watching the first 15 episodes of the entire series with my little brother. I guess maybe my parents found copies recently?
For its legendary status the Cyberman dont actually do much and General Cutler is the adversary with his bruised ego. This is the most human and scariest version of the Cbmen before their featureless robot look. In all the years since we never learn anything more about Mondas or even visit pre-conversion. The Capaldi finale is a space station so not clear how that tied back to Mondas if they evolved separately. Also was Mondas ever in contact with the Silurians on Earth or Ice Warriors on Mars?
Their first scene in ep 1 is so iconic and so good.
4:37 jerma has found his way this far back
I watched this as a kid in 1966 and was horrified by these animated corpse looking Cybermen...easily the creepiest of all because they were so un-robotic except for their super-weird sing song voices.. Todays marching robots have lost the creep factor.
Here we go
And here is how you do diversity the right way in Doctor Who. Notice how it's not shoved down our throats or preached to us. No its actually part of the story as explained. The diverse crew versus the clone like Cybermen. This was very ahead of its time and done right. If only they could figure this out today maybe we could get great original stories about a batty daft but oh so clever guy in a police box saving worlds or the universe. It doesn't even feel like Doctor Who anymore! If there ever was a missing episode I really want to see returned its Episode 4 of The Tenth Planet featuring Hartnell's regeneration!
Cybermen are awesome villians in billions of ways
I've never been sure if the composer of the Cyberman theme - Martin Slavin - composed it especially for the series - or it was just picked up by a BBC music ditector
6:45 "We were exactly like you once, but our *cybernetic* scientists..." or "sibbernetic", as said by Roy Skelton. Aside from Hartnell's famous Billy-fluffs, is this the earliest example of a key word or technobabble being cocked up in Doctor Who? See also Pertwee mispronouncing chitinous as "tchittinous", Tom's habit of saying "Gallifree" and Matt Smith's "MeTEBilis" :)
The word "cybernetic" was only eighteen years old when Tenth Planet aired and I doubt it came up in conversation very often. They made the classic mistake of trying to pronounce a word they'd only read. 😁
@@affsteak3530 Fair point.
With their clothed bodies they are like electronic mummies
A fascinating finale for the First Doctor.
Next time on Cybercember: Cyber-Whalers On The Moon