Marlin has some good lever guns if you buy the ones they have for sale in wood. Still. But marlin not having any lever action or semi auto .22s rn is dissapointing considering marlin has made some of the best .22s ever. The lever action 39a and the one before it that it came from. There was also a pump action .22. Old ones are worth a lot as collectors items but you cant buy new ones.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss I had a 1970s dated 39A that was awesome and I should have never sold it. I was tempted to just buy a new one when Remington owned Marlin but the quality coming out of that era was absolute ass and I refused to support them, not to mention the last run of 39As Marlin produced all came out of their custom shop and were like $1000 plus... No thanks. If Ruger brings back the 39A I will buy one. I don't even need checkering or anything, smooth wood is fine, especially if it keeps the price down. But what would be amazing is if someone figures out how to do a King's loading gate for a .22 lever...
@@ScottyBennitoneLove Henry's centerfire lever guns especially the side gate ones! But no way the H001 is going to be better than this. The cast zinc frame feels like cheap pot metal. The bl22/9422/39a all are much better quality rifles and this seems to be a bit of a middle ground between those.
Sad to see it’s made in Turkey and branded by a brand like Winchester. I’ll stick with my Henry, same price point and great quality while being made in America.
@@jpoppinga8417I got the Henry … runs around 430 to 450. Black steel not the golden receiver that shoots shorts and longs. They got to be competitively priced or I can’t see them moving that fast.
The point is to have a 9422 without paying 1500$ for a decent used one. It's about getting to shoot one without paying the big money so ppl who don't have that kinda money laying around to experience it. Not brag about it. I own a original 9422 and I'd buy the ranger to just shoot and not burn up my 9422 anyway. It's a plinker. Something you wouldn't be mad about if it got damaged . Your missing the point. Want a heirloom. Go spend 2k on a original 9422
Considering its features, a walnut stock, hard anodized, etc., it's a nice looking rifle but it's made in Turkey. It is prominently stamped as Made in Turkey. You can get a made in America, American walnut stock .22lr with the same capacity, etc., for the same money. The Henry equivalent is priced at $369 right now, today, at SW stores. Why would anyone pay the same price for a Turkish rifle when they can get a Henry for the same money, or maybe even less in this case. If Henry can do it with American workers, every American company should be able to do it for that price.
@@RCXDerp They probably will offer it soon. They have to come out with this version initially because of the communist states that don't allow threaded barrels.
@@Texze Either is the Henry and it's made in America and priced the about the same. This looks like a great beginner rifle but at that price it just doesn't make sense. We al know that MSRP is almost never the actual price paid for a firearm in the US. Depending on how sales go, this rifle may be a heck of a lot less fairly soon.
Henry guarantees all of their products with a Lifetime Warranty. As per the Winchester site - "Winchester Repeating Arms does not provide written warranties on most of our products and currently there is no “lifetime” warranty on any Winchester Repeating Arms Company product." That kind of says it all.
Still happy with my Henry, after over 15 years and I couldn't guess how many boxes of ammo. Bought it because it'd cycle 22 shorts for pest control. It has NEVER failed to feed shorts, longs, or long rifle ammo, even when mixed in the same tube. Marvelous little weapon. It'd be the last rifle to leave my hands!
Like the stock and the take down feature is GREAT! However, it's going to retail for about as much a Henry and the Henry is made in the USA while this is made in Turkey
if we’re going by authenticity, the “Henry” that we have now was started in 1996 by a German. It’s about as authentic as the new Chevy Blazer. In any case, an aluminum reciever is just as authentic as the hipoint frame used by the Henry.
@@xanostermann9030 Did some quick research zinc is superior to aluminum in strength and it is also harder so the Henry is still a superior quality rifle theoretically.
Was going to say, the Savage Revel and the Rossi Rio Bravo are both made in America, just not the United States of America. Both are nice options, though. Henry offering their gun for the same price is suspicious. Their larger caliber lever actions are sig ificantly more expensive than foreign ones.
Pass. Made in Turkey, spray painted black (many blemishes visible in this video), discount furniture grade wood and most importantly (the market spoke about this a while ago) no threaded barrel!
@@JDB1184A threaded barrel allows for adding a muzzle device. On a .22lr a flash hider or break are useless but a small flash hider would protect the crown and preserve accuracy. Also a manual action .22lr is begging to have a suppressor put on it. Basically it would cost very little to do in factory but it would be costly and annoying for the customer to do. In today's day and age it's an easy thing to instantly improve the design of a firearm with no real downsides.
In reality any Winchester made for as long as I can remember had made in Japan stamped on them! I guess labor in Japan got too expensive for the CEO to rake in his big bucks. So now they will try and get rich off the backs of the turks! Shame!
@@dylanhayden8825 yeah the gouging is painful, but I’ve got too many guns as is so I’m in buy-once-cry-once mode and only buying heirloom stuff anymore. If its build quality is on par with the old 94/22s I’ll save up & deal with it; these Rangers are simply not made like that.
It feels like companies keep trying to get away with charging a good price for an ok-ish gun. It's nothing special and not even made by Winchester or even in the USA
Until we take back America from global criminal cabals wearing suits occupying our government ("We the People"), why are we whining about this? If we took half the energy we use to complain about where products are coming from and focused that on fixing our elections and electing people who represent us instead of despising us, then we'd get somewhere.
I mean, both Rossi and Henry have levers for around $400 MSRP. And for Rossi if you go for the one with black polymer furniture instead of the wooden one then the MSRP is around $350.
I have the Rossi Rio Bravo, and it's kinda a gigantic piece of shit for anything outside of plinking. I can't speak for others, but the one I received isn't accurate at any distance. I wouldn't use it as a survival gun. But, that said, I cannot emphasize enough just how much fun it is to shoot, and the large loop I bought for it adds a nice level of drip to it. I tell my friends that the Rio Bravo is rated for minute of fun, not minute of angle. If I can figure out the accuracy issue, I'd be inclined to deck it out further.
Can’t really be disappointed anymore when most US manufacturers suck at innovating new products and find it cheaper to outsource most of their budget guns overseas rather than pay more to make them in the states. If the customer base voted with their wallets to get these manufacturers to get off their lazy butts and actually innovate to produce better guns for reasonable prices stateside we wouldn’t be having this kind of outsourcing.
Importing to me isn't the problem here. Seemed like he's trying to imply it's a winchester rather than imported by winchester. That alone is a turn off.
Already own a Henry .22lr lever rifle that is an exceptional rifle, but I have to say that a one screw takedown is very unique. Not sure if cleaning from the muzzle end will damage your crown if you are properly inserting your jag.
The classic Henry is roughly the same price and made in America. This one is made in Turkey. Nothing against Turkey made firearms but ill buy American first.
@@irreccon Exactly!! Also, Henry guarantees their products with a Lifetime Warranty. Winchester does not. As a matter of fact if you go the Winchester site this is what it says - ""Winchester Repeating Arms does not provide written warranties on most of our products and currently there is no “lifetime” warranty on any Winchester Repeating Arms Company product."
A rifle company that doesn't offer a lifetime warranty on any of their rifles or shoguns is not enticing either. "Winchester Repeating Arms does not provide written warranties on most of our products and currently there is no “lifetime” warranty on any Winchester Repeating Arms Company product."
Ruger does have a warranty. And one of the best at that. Anyone that isn't satisfied, Ruger sends a pre-paid postage and their turnaround times are under a week for most people....
@sixgunnerdotorg4425 wrong, call them up and ask them. They will tell you just send a rifle in if you have any trouble with it and they will fix it free of charge.
Once upon a time Colt had to manufacture in England because American quality was not seen in a good light. I have several Turkish guns that are giving fine service. I tend to use my guns, not put them in a safe to "hand down".
Tang sights are excellent! Exceptional sight system for quick target access also good for longer range. Have one on my Win 94 for Wisconsin deer hunting. Very quick, very easy sighting
What does it say about the state of ammo in this country, when a company that makes guns and ammo can't get 22 shorts or longs to test in their own guns. Seems rather strange to me.
The Ranger model has been a thing for Winchester for roughly 40 years. I have 2 shotguns from 84’ that are Ranger models. It’s meant for the budget crowd. Edit: where the bell is the ranger? We’re 7-8 months from the release and they haven’t hit the shelves.
Its just a markup job. Buy them off turkey for 200 each, put them on a boat, for 25 each we ship them and 25 for labor costs whole sale numbers and then they mark them up to 400 when they get off the boat and pocket like 100 profit each. Its business. Its so little money some will sell just because people gotta collect em all like pokemon you know bro its hard to hate a gun. Turkish guns are easy to hate tho. Plenty of hetter options than turkey
I love 22lr lever guns and pump guns, I know I’ll get one. Henry makes their. 22LR rifle receivers out of high pressure castings of Zamak which is a zinc-aluminium-magnesium-copper alloy. The casting is then either painted to match the color of the rest of the gun or it is covered with BRASS-PLATTED SHEETMETAL. This Ranger is Fully billet aluminum upper and lower, hard anodized, walnut and machined steal internal parts. It has a single screw takedown. 3-5 lbs trigger with user adjustable over travel screw. Don’t get me wrong I love my Henry’s but Turkish made or not this Winchester is a quality made rifle. For all of you saying you’ll pass that only means I have a better chance of getting a Quality made Rifle, so thank you all for that.
Enjoy them importing it for a year since it won’t sell. People used to save a month’s wages for a colt. They had class even when broke. Y’all hate this country
@@seancssu Who hates this country? I have tons of American made guns. People buy tons of foreign made guns, who love this country. I’m not going to buy it and throw away my Henry’s. I’ll just add it to my collection. I was simply pointing out that this is a quality made rifle, I have 2 Henry rifles in 22lr. 1 in 22 mag, 2 Big boys one in 357 mag and 44mag, and a 30-30 x model. I love Henry’s and America so why don’t you go suck a bud lite.
@@seancssu If your buying Henry's centerfire rifles then you are buying Quality I know because I have two big boys one in 357 mag and the other in 44 mag and a large frame X model 30-30. Their 22's are made of exactly what I stated in my previous comment. You can call Henry and ask them if you like. I also have an Evil Roy .22lr, a classic H001LL, and a Mares leg 22 mag all of them great rifles. Also Quit a few more American made Rifles and Handguns and foreign firearms as well. No need to list them. I have no clue why you would say I hate this Country you are wrong for saying that. You sit there talking about people having class, but you talk crap on the internet for no reason at all, showing exactly how little class you have.
Henry has same price point 100% made in USA. All parts and wood sourced here all labor here plus a lifetime warranty and good customer support! No brainer unless you want a trademark that no longer means anything!
@richh5824 Henry may be USA manufactured, but Henry uses much lower quality materials like Zamak. This Winchester is 100% wood, steel, and 7000 series aluminum.
I have a mint 9422 with the exceedingly rare WinTuff laminate stock. Not a scratch on it. I've shot it a few times but I don't take it out much because I'm worried that a ghost might fart on it. It's an heirloom piece for sure.
Cause they definitely found out a company in Turkey was making a lever action .22 and said "hey we should add that to our line up by putting our name on it". They definitely did not have this as an original idea.
Back in about 1975 I debated between a Winchester and a Marlyn 49-A I chose the Longer Marlyn because it could handle shorts , longs and Long rifles, plus the microgroove rifling. I have always had some issues with actioning live rounds. The Winchester was Probably still made in the USA back then . I have actually worked at trying to make the action smoother recently .
I don’t feel like Winchester is the great American company that it used to be, unless you get into their really high end guns. I just wouldn’t feel like I had a genuine Winchester if I purchased something like this.
Winchester doesn't exist anymore. It's just a name. Even their nice center fire lever actions are made in Japan by a company called Miroku. Good guns, but still not made by Winchester.
@@TylerHulan I do really want one of those Winchester 1873's carbine in .45Colt made in Miroku Japan who do make some fine firearms and yes they are labeled Winchester and are made to Winchester specs !!!
Am I mistaken, or was the only safety feature on that gun the half-cock hammer? I didn't see any crossbolt or lever-press safeties. Does it have a rebounding hammer? Our interviewer failed to ask several important questions!
It could be a trigger saftey of some kind idk but my old marlin the closest that bitch gets to safe is halfcock 😂 i kinda like the simplicity. If i have to shoot when i pull the trigger at the bad guy its going to suck if the hammer falls on a saftey and the gun doesmt go off them i get shot snd die instead because i forgot in the heat of the moment to disinguage the saftey mechanism
Why on earth would you want a steel receiver for a .22 rimfire? Waste of material that adds unnecessary weight for what amounts to a plinker you’re more likely to want your kid to learn to shoot with than burn tens of thousands of rounds through at a time.
@@Iceaxehikes I’m aware of the 94/22; it made sense in 1972 when aluminum was a “new fangled technology” and polymer was treated like witchcraft. Nowadays aluminum and other lighter materials are better choices rather than sticking to steel and having a .22 rimfire that’s almost as heavy as the Winchester 94 they based it off of.
Sigh.. made by Sila, then imported by another company, then marketed by Winchester, then sold by individual gun stores. I want to believe, but there's a whole lotta room for finger-pointing when the inevitable little or big flaws come to light - and those steps of separation allow for the marketer to drop it like a hot potato after a year or two.
How about madw in America with a steel receiver? My uncle has a pump 22 that dates from the late 1890s. Its incredibly tight amd glassy smoth in tue action. Do you think that aluminum casting with last 140 plus years with 100,000 through it? Will it last 20 years with 2000?
Yes, I think non-pressure bearing aluminum parts could easily last over 140 years with regular use, as long as they aren't seriously abused or have major manufacturing flaws.
I have one. It is in excellent condition looks brand new. It sets next to my 4 inch Colt Python Nichol and looks brand new. I did purchase them brand new in the early 70’s. They are gorgeous and not made in Turkey.
Will be interesting to see it in person compared to the Henry. To me the Henry .22s feel cheap and look the part with the painted zamak receiver. This is at least machined aluminum with steel parts, does feel kinda 70s, but steel has been priced out of the market for .22 levers and semi-autos outside of the BL-22 and SA-22
My only complaint is that the gun is made in turkey. I would rather get a Henry made in the USA for the same price. I would consider getting one if it’s fairly cheaper than the Henry.
It looks nice. A higher grade sku might sell well at a 599 msrp. Maybe a polished blued finish on the barrel, some checkering on the wood, a gold triggeer and polished hammer.
I like the design of this new lever action Ranger 22lr ! But I dislike the front sight system with tunel ... I prefer the front sight of 1892's model ... do you think I can change it easily ?
$400 for a Turkish gun when a made-in-USA Henry is $320-ish? And their dig is that the stock Henry sights aren't great? Get a receiver sight like a Skinner and you're still well under the cost of this import.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian Henry receivers are die-cast. So are the majority of engine blocks and now even major frame components are being cast (famously, Tesla has made the news with their "gigacasting"). It's a more technical process than you'd think, and I doubt if Turkey has the craftsmanship in the die making process to compete. There's a difference between Hot Wheels and a Tesla, even if they're both cast. The Henry is going to be somewhere in between.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian You say that as if it's self evidently true without providing any evidence. You know they're both aluminum alloys, right? Henry uses Zamak 5 with improved specs that they tune in-house. Minimum yield strength is 33ksi, which is about 20% higher than common machinable aluminum billet. To get the same strength in extruded aluminum billet, you need at least a 6000 series alloy and it must have a proper T6 heat treatment. How much do you trust the Turks to get their materials and heat treat right? And even then, it's a smaller improvement of only about 5-10% stronger than Zamak 5. Arguably, Henry's QC and higher specs can make up the difference even if the Turks do everything right. There have to be millions of Henrys out there. If there were a problem with the receivers, it would be news by this point.
@TrojanManSCP Zamak 5 is a softer metal than the Aluminum receiver Winchester is using. True. We don't know if the Turks will do everything right with the materials they have. If they do, the Winchester will be a better quality than what the henry lever 22 has. I want to see what Nutnfancy's testing on the Winchester Ranger Revels. Turkish shotguns suck. Turkish pistols rule. We will see where the Turkish lever action 22s fall soon enough.
Winchester always says it is to expensive to build the old 9422. But they under estimate that people will pay for quality. They should do what the guitar makers like Gibson and Fender do and have a Custom shop.
4:25 I just clicked off of this video and googled “22 long” and found 16 different listings for it in stock before I came here. Winchester dropped the ball here all around. This is an afterthought made in Turkey with the Winchester name stamped on it
@@jstud999 I can understand how it's always a good idea to buy products made in your own country, but that's not how true free market capitalism works. If another country can make a product for less money and consumers still buy them so it's profitable then that's what's going to happen. Same reason why lots of stuff is made in China or India. A private company should have the freedom to choose whoever they want to manufacture their product. The reason why the USA isn't the main manufacturer of the world like we used to be is because of too much government regulations. Minimum wage laws is only one example, there are several other govt. regulations that cause companies to move their production elsewhere. That's just how free markets operate. If you don't like it, just don't buy the product. I'm not going to condemn an entire country like Turkey or any other country because I disagree with what their ruling class has done in the same way you don't want to be blamed for what Biden does.
@@Prepare2Survive sure they absolutely have the will to produce it wherever they’d like. Just like the wildcat 22 they had made in Turkey I have the will to choose it to buy it. Just like the wildcat flopping and doing terrible in sales compared to other options at the same price point this one will follow. I have nothing against foreign made guns I probably own more than American made guns. If I’m buying a Winchester lever action rifle though I’d prefer it to be made in America with some sort of support of something goes wrong. Is that too much to ask? I don’t think so and I think just like the wildcat many will pass on this one because it’s Turkish made.
I would only buy a Henry gun if it used either a full steel or a full aluminum receiver instead of Zamak (Zinc + Aluminum aloy that degrades and cracks over time like polymer).
If you're talking about made in the USA, it's been years since the bulk of manufacturing went overseas. All of their lever actions and single shots are made in Japan, while bolt actions are assembled in Portugal. The Wildcat rimfire and SXP shotgun are already made in Turkey.
I had a USA made Winchester lever 22 back in the 90’s and I traded it like an idiot. Although having the Browning BL and your typical Henry lever rifles the Winchester is the one I should not have left slip away.
As an European, We'd like to have American made guns here, but unfortunately, due to american Export laws, some of the producers moved production to Turkey. Can't wait to get my hand on something like this.
Bought the .22 Henry Frontier 24 inch barrel...took off the buckhorn thing and put a Skinner peep in the back and a red fiber optic on the front...Thing is a tack driver, and the barrel is so long it makes a CCI Standard sound like a pellet gun..I have so much with the damn thing I went out and bought the pump..little bit louder with the CCI...but still very accurate with that Skinner sight.
I have a Browning rifle I bought back in the mid 1970's I think it was around 1974 or maybe 1975 guess what, it was made in Japan. I have old Rugers and Marlins and some old Remington rifles, all these foreign guns may be okay but I still like my old guns.
So glad that in late 1972 I went to a local gun store and picked me up a 1972 Winchester Model 9422. That would be first year of manufacture. The fit and finish is awesome. I have only shot about 20 rounds through it. It is a fabulous gun, especially compared to this piece of junk from Turkey.
Turkey is known for their shotguns, I am curious to see how they sell and what the reviews are for the rifle! I love my Browning BL 22, so I will wait to hear from those who buy it and see what they have to say before I purchase one myself
It looks like a reintroduction of a cheaper version of the classic 9422 but without the polished steel receiver and barrel or nice checkered walnut. 1 1/2” groups at 50 yards is ok for plinking, but I wouldn’t be confident taking it squirrel hunting. My 1985 vintage 9422 XTR will easily shoot groups half that size, and is also one of the best looking guns I own. Maybe Winchester will realize that not everybody just wants the cheapest guns and that there are plenty of people willing to pay more for high-quality firearms that will actually become treasured heirlooms.
I rather like the idea of a takedown lever 22 just to have in the truck when on a fishing or camping trip, but that takedown screw looks awfully losable. I’d think a knob or something would be better, like on the old Marlin 39As, though as I think about it further a Ruger 10/22 takedown is probably a better bet, though I’ve never been wild about semiautos.
Japan probably better at the tolerancing and quality control but imo texas is where ill make all my guns I dont care about the cost im in it for the love of the game son texas is my states greatest ally state
A Turkish Winchester... Notwithstanding legitimate gripes with Turkish QC (or lack thereof), its really unbecoming of a classic American arms maker to source guns from such an un-American place.
I mean winchester makes a lot of guns in a lot of different places too. They make a lot of more expensive guns it sucks this ones from turkey but you csm see how they take other models more seriously the 400 dollar rifle kinda a backburner they made it in turkey. Marlin back in the day made the lever .22s good and it wasny turkey yo
Ruger/Marlin, you're on deck!
Marlin has some good lever guns if you buy the ones they have for sale in wood. Still. But marlin not having any lever action or semi auto .22s rn is dissapointing considering marlin has made some of the best .22s ever. The lever action 39a and the one before it that it came from. There was also a pump action .22. Old ones are worth a lot as collectors items but you cant buy new ones.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss I had a 1970s dated 39A that was awesome and I should have never sold it. I was tempted to just buy a new one when Remington owned Marlin but the quality coming out of that era was absolute ass and I refused to support them, not to mention the last run of 39As Marlin produced all came out of their custom shop and were like $1000 plus... No thanks.
If Ruger brings back the 39A I will buy one. I don't even need checkering or anything, smooth wood is fine, especially if it keeps the price down.
But what would be amazing is if someone figures out how to do a King's loading gate for a .22 lever...
Props to the TFB camerman for that angle at 1:48. Turklever copy with a $100 mark up for stamping Winchester on the barrel? Pass
Winchester is shitty nowadays. I like their miroku stuff but I wish they'd just call it what it is and stop using the Winchester name.
@@thekalamazookid4481 A Henry H001 made in USA is better quality and less $$$, too! Plus excellent CS...
@@ScottyBennitone I used to have one!They do make an excellent product. Had to sell mine due to hard times but I'd love to get one again.
@@ScottyBennitoneLove Henry's centerfire lever guns especially the side gate ones! But no way the H001 is going to be better than this. The cast zinc frame feels like cheap pot metal. The bl22/9422/39a all are much better quality rifles and this seems to be a bit of a middle ground between those.
@@thekalamazookid4481 like my B78 Browning.
Sad to see it’s made in Turkey and branded by a brand like Winchester. I’ll stick with my Henry, same price point and great quality while being made in America.
agreed
Or get a Browning, it’s not made in turkey, and it’s not made with a cast zinc receiver pretending to be steel/brass like the Henry.
Henry and their company slogan ❤
Idk...billet receiver is better than receiver cover and zamak cast receiver of Henry...imo
Winchester has been bankrupt since 1989.
Winchester is merely a hermit crab now.
So proud to hand down my Turkish made heirloom to my grandkids!
Gotta have em survive to adulthood first
Well..... A Turkish made Winchester or a over hyped Henry....
If you want a new "heirloom" gun well good luck
@@jpoppinga8417I got the Henry … runs around 430 to 450. Black steel not the golden receiver that shoots shorts and longs. They got to be competitively priced or I can’t see them moving that fast.
Aluminum receiver. Last 5 year maybe.
The point is to have a 9422 without paying 1500$ for a decent used one. It's about getting to shoot one without paying the big money so ppl who don't have that kinda money laying around to experience it. Not brag about it. I own a original 9422 and I'd buy the ranger to just shoot and not burn up my 9422 anyway. It's a plinker. Something you wouldn't be mad about if it got damaged . Your missing the point. Want a heirloom. Go spend 2k on a original 9422
I’m fine with turkey but for 360 you can go to midway and buy a Henry classic and have it built in the us
Considering its features, a walnut stock, hard anodized, etc., it's a nice looking rifle but it's made in Turkey. It is prominently stamped as Made in Turkey. You can get a made in America, American walnut stock .22lr with the same capacity, etc., for the same money. The Henry equivalent is priced at $369 right now, today, at SW stores. Why would anyone pay the same price for a Turkish rifle when they can get a Henry for the same money, or maybe even less in this case. If Henry can do it with American workers, every American company should be able to do it for that price.
They should have put a threaded barrel on it. Then maybe it would be competitive.
As much as it pains to say, this is not cast with pot metal and the internals are machined and not stamped.
American gun workers are pretty amateurish
@@RCXDerp
They probably will offer it soon. They have to come out with this version initially because of the communist states that don't allow threaded barrels.
@@Texze
Either is the Henry and it's made in America and priced the about the same. This looks like a great beginner rifle but at that price it just doesn't make sense. We al know that MSRP is almost never the actual price paid for a firearm in the US. Depending on how sales go, this rifle may be a heck of a lot less fairly soon.
I’ve got a 9422 I bought new in the late 70’s. Pinpoint accurate and still 100% reliable.
It’ll be an heirloom
It was made in Japan
@sixgunnerdotorg4425 he's thinking the bl22. That gun is made in Japan in the same factory as the Browning blr.
Me too . Made in America 9422
9422M made in USA paid $75.00 first year it came out
@josephbolz4550 9422 was made in USA.
Henry guarantees all of their products with a Lifetime Warranty. As per the Winchester site - "Winchester Repeating Arms does not provide written warranties on most of our products and currently there is no “lifetime” warranty on any Winchester Repeating Arms Company product."
That kind of says it all.
@sixgunnerdotorg4425
Henry gives a lifetime warranty. Winchester offers No Warranty. Whatever Ruger does is an entirely different topic.
Still happy with my Henry, after over 15 years and I couldn't guess how many boxes of ammo. Bought it because it'd cycle 22 shorts for pest control. It has NEVER failed to feed shorts, longs, or long rifle ammo, even when mixed in the same tube. Marvelous little weapon. It'd be the last rifle to leave my hands!
@@howardlowry6412
Congrats on a great firearm. I love my Henry's too.
Like the stock and the take down feature is GREAT! However, it's going to retail for about as much a Henry and the Henry is made in the USA while this is made in Turkey
Henry uses a cast zinc frame like a hipoint while pretending to be heirloom grade, so I still wouldn’t pick either.
@@xanostermann9030because the originals were cast brass. Milled steel isnt authentic for this particular rifle
The Henry .22 is a German design originally
if we’re going by authenticity, the “Henry” that we have now was started in 1996 by a German. It’s about as authentic as the new Chevy Blazer. In any case, an aluminum reciever is just as authentic as the hipoint frame used by the Henry.
@@xanostermann9030 Did some quick research zinc is superior to aluminum in strength and it is also harder so the Henry is still a superior quality rifle theoretically.
I got a Savage, made in Canada. Heavy barrel, shoots good, cost a lot less, and bean counters didn’t move to hostile turf for cheap labor
I wont buy anything from that facade of a nation thats divided our blessed land at its middle. Im sticken with TEXAS, pardner
Was going to say, the Savage Revel and the Rossi Rio Bravo are both made in America, just not the United States of America.
Both are nice options, though.
Henry offering their gun for the same price is suspicious. Their larger caliber lever actions are sig ificantly more expensive than foreign ones.
Pass. Made in Turkey, spray painted black (many blemishes visible in this video), discount furniture grade wood and most importantly (the market spoke about this a while ago) no threaded barrel!
TIL anodized alu is spray paint
Why is a threaded barrel so important ? More tactical nonsense , in my opinion . And why on a lever action rimfire ?
@@JDB1184A threaded barrel allows for adding a muzzle device. On a .22lr a flash hider or break are useless but a small flash hider would protect the crown and preserve accuracy. Also a manual action .22lr is begging to have a suppressor put on it.
Basically it would cost very little to do in factory but it would be costly and annoying for the customer to do. In today's day and age it's an easy thing to instantly improve the design of a firearm with no real downsides.
Did that say made in turkey? Wtf I knew Winchester is going down hill but good God.
In reality any Winchester made for as long as I can remember had made in Japan stamped on them! I guess labor in Japan got too expensive for the CEO to rake in his big bucks. So now they will try and get rich off the backs of the turks! Shame!
Let me revise that last statement...any lever action Winchester!
I will say there Turkish made shotgun appears to be good. I mean there’s no reason to get it over an American mossberg 88 but it’s a decent shotgun.
@@Odd_Ball69I seen them dented off the shelf, you can’t convince me to get a Turkish made shot gun
Winchester doesn't exist anymore. It's just a name slapped on other companies products.
Looks like we’ll have to wait for the eventual Ruger-Marlin 39A to get a US made, all-steel .22 lever.
As soon as it come out i got one.
For $1299 with dealers gouging for $1600....
@@dylanhayden8825 yeah the gouging is painful, but I’ve got too many guns as is so I’m in buy-once-cry-once mode and only buying heirloom stuff anymore. If its build quality is on par with the old 94/22s I’ll save up & deal with it; these Rangers are simply not made like that.
THAT'S A GREAT RIFLE! 49 MARLIN!
@@garrettstiles7808 wild how they ever stopped.
It feels like companies keep trying to get away with charging a good price for an ok-ish gun. It's nothing special and not even made by Winchester or even in the USA
American companies outsourcing the production of the most american product is the most american thing ever.
XD yes@@Xeonerable
Until we take back America from global criminal cabals wearing suits occupying our government ("We the People"), why are we whining about this? If we took half the energy we use to complain about where products are coming from and focused that on fixing our elections and electing people who represent us instead of despising us, then we'd get somewhere.
The finish on the barrel is crappy.
@@feelnrite Remains to be seen. It's not a glossy deep blued finish. Whether the finish is crappy beyond appearance, we'll have to wait for that.
I mean, both Rossi and Henry have levers for around $400 MSRP. And for Rossi if you go for the one with black polymer furniture instead of the wooden one then the MSRP is around $350.
I have the Rossi Rio Bravo, and it's kinda a gigantic piece of shit for anything outside of plinking. I can't speak for others, but the one I received isn't accurate at any distance. I wouldn't use it as a survival gun. But, that said, I cannot emphasize enough just how much fun it is to shoot, and the large loop I bought for it adds a nice level of drip to it. I tell my friends that the Rio Bravo is rated for minute of fun, not minute of angle. If I can figure out the accuracy issue, I'd be inclined to deck it out further.
Henry are US made too.
@@ChuckBeefOGFisher Price “my first CNC job”. Like Huntsville Remingtons.
@@JoshJones-37334 lol yeah
@@Ghostychief91 Personally, I've had no accuracy problems with my Rio Bravo.
Made in Turkey of course. Price should be $249 at most.
It's disappointing that so many companies are importing guns instead of making them in America.
Americans won't work.
Can’t really be disappointed anymore when most US manufacturers suck at innovating new products and find it cheaper to outsource most of their budget guns overseas rather than pay more to make them in the states.
If the customer base voted with their wallets to get these manufacturers to get off their lazy butts and actually innovate to produce better guns for reasonable prices stateside we wouldn’t be having this kind of outsourcing.
Importing to me isn't the problem here. Seemed like he's trying to imply it's a winchester rather than imported by winchester. That alone is a turn off.
@@FoulPet exactly
Winchester doesn't make anything anymore.
Already own a Henry .22lr lever rifle that is an exceptional rifle, but I have to say that a one screw takedown is very unique. Not sure if cleaning from the muzzle end will damage your crown if you are properly inserting your jag.
NO NEED TO CLEAN A 22LR BARREL
Maybe this will get Henry to drop the price on their 22's. Henry's are decent enough but a zinc receiver isn't so enticing.
The classic Henry is roughly the same price and made in America. This one is made in Turkey. Nothing against Turkey made firearms but ill buy American first.
@@irreccon
Exactly!! Also, Henry guarantees their products with a Lifetime Warranty. Winchester does not. As a matter of fact if you go the Winchester site this is what it says -
""Winchester Repeating Arms does not provide written warranties on most of our products and currently there is no “lifetime” warranty on any Winchester Repeating Arms Company product."
A rifle company that doesn't offer a lifetime warranty on any of their rifles or shoguns is not enticing either.
"Winchester Repeating Arms does not provide written warranties on most of our products and currently there is no “lifetime” warranty on any Winchester Repeating Arms Company product."
Ruger does have a warranty. And one of the best at that. Anyone that isn't satisfied, Ruger sends a pre-paid postage and their turnaround times are under a week for most people....
@sixgunnerdotorg4425 wrong, call them up and ask them. They will tell you just send a rifle in if you have any trouble with it and they will fix it free of charge.
Winchester Rep was definitely paying a lot of attention that was going on off screen. HIS eyes kept looking away! 😁
I would call that situational awareness. My former girlfriends would say it's looking at ass walking by.
Once upon a time Colt had to manufacture in England because American quality was not seen in a good light. I have several Turkish guns that are giving fine service. I tend to use my guns, not put them in a safe to "hand down".
Tang sights are excellent! Exceptional sight system for quick target access also good for longer range. Have one on my Win 94 for Wisconsin deer hunting. Very quick, very easy sighting
Quick shoutout to luke, i love that you are doing more in front of the camera these days
What does it say about the state of ammo in this country, when a company that makes guns and ammo can't get 22 shorts or longs to test in their own guns. Seems rather strange to me.
Who cant get 22 longs bro?
It's unfortunate that Winchester is just a shell of its former self.
I would like to see them make the 62A again.
New from Winchest-Turkey!!!
It's no 9422.
So, no pot metal and MIM like henry?
Correct
The Ranger model has been a thing for Winchester for roughly 40 years. I have 2 shotguns from 84’ that are Ranger models. It’s meant for the budget crowd.
Edit: where the bell is the ranger? We’re 7-8 months from the release and they haven’t hit the shelves.
Winchester is missing the boat on this with it being Turkish.
Its just a markup job. Buy them off turkey for 200 each, put them on a boat, for 25 each we ship them and 25 for labor costs whole sale numbers and then they mark them up to 400 when they get off the boat and pocket like 100 profit each. Its business. Its so little money some will sell just because people gotta collect em all like pokemon you know bro its hard to hate a gun. Turkish guns are easy to hate tho. Plenty of hetter options than turkey
You just know this costs them ~$70 to build, if that.
I love 22lr lever guns and pump guns, I know I’ll get one. Henry makes their. 22LR rifle receivers out of high pressure castings of Zamak which is a zinc-aluminium-magnesium-copper alloy. The casting is then either painted to match the color of the rest of the gun or it is covered with BRASS-PLATTED SHEETMETAL. This Ranger is Fully billet aluminum upper and lower, hard anodized, walnut and machined steal internal parts. It has a single screw takedown. 3-5 lbs trigger with user adjustable over travel screw. Don’t get me wrong I love my Henry’s but Turkish made or not this Winchester is a quality made rifle. For all of you saying you’ll pass that only means I have a better chance of getting a Quality made Rifle, so thank you all for that.
TRUTH
Enjoy them importing it for a year since it won’t sell. People used to save a month’s wages for a colt. They had class even when broke. Y’all hate this country
@@seancssu Who hates this country? I have tons of American made guns. People buy tons of foreign made guns, who love this country. I’m not going to buy it and throw away my Henry’s. I’ll just add it to my collection. I was simply pointing out that this is a quality made rifle, I have 2 Henry rifles in 22lr. 1 in 22 mag, 2 Big boys one in 357 mag and 44mag, and a 30-30 x model. I love Henry’s and America so why don’t you go suck a bud lite.
@@seancssu If your buying Henry's centerfire rifles then you are buying Quality I know because I have two big boys one in 357 mag and the other in 44 mag and a large frame X model 30-30. Their 22's are made of exactly what I stated in my previous comment. You can call Henry and ask them if you like. I also have an Evil Roy .22lr, a classic H001LL, and a Mares leg 22 mag all of them great rifles. Also Quit a few more American made Rifles and Handguns and foreign firearms as well. No need to list them. I have no clue why you would say I hate this Country you are wrong for saying that. You sit there talking about people having class, but you talk crap on the internet for no reason at all, showing exactly how little class you have.
“Leverguns, so hot right now.” ~ Mugato
I was blown away! A gun gor $419 my kids and grandkids can all shoot?! Wow what a great valu-OH. RIGHT. TURKEY.
Man a Golden Boy is only like 200 more, so you can definitely get a blued Henry for about the same as this.
Henry has same price point 100% made in USA. All parts and wood sourced here all labor here plus a lifetime warranty and good customer support! No brainer unless you want a trademark that no longer means anything!
go henry
@richh5 🇺🇲💯
@richh5824 Henry may be USA manufactured, but Henry uses much lower quality materials like Zamak.
This Winchester is 100% wood, steel, and 7000 series aluminum.
I have a mint 9422 with the exceedingly rare WinTuff laminate stock. Not a scratch on it. I've shot it a few times but I don't take it out much because I'm worried that a ghost might fart on it. It's an heirloom piece for sure.
22 mag would interest me alot.... Turkey .... IDK now. I think all the centerfire Winchester leverguns are made in Japan. Why not this one ?
Because it's a budget model, and Turkish manufacturing is cheaper.
Cause they definitely found out a company in Turkey was making a lever action .22 and said "hey we should add that to our line up by putting our name on it". They definitely did not have this as an original idea.
because then it would be 700 dollars and people wouldnt buy it
5:55 I wonder how many more orders or return customers you’ll have when they get it and see made in Turkey on the barrel.
I have a 1980's USA made Winchester in 30-30 1894 model. It is stamped ranger
I also have a 30-30 lever action called Ranger
Back in about 1975 I debated between a Winchester and a Marlyn 49-A I chose the Longer Marlyn because it could handle shorts , longs and Long rifles, plus the microgroove rifling.
I have always had some issues with actioning live rounds. The Winchester was Probably still made in the USA back then .
I have actually worked at trying to make the action smoother recently .
You mean 39A
Where has everyone been? Winchester went away in the 1980s…it is what it is.
2005 production ended at the new haven CT factory.
@ I am not talking US Repeating Arms Co. I am talking Winchester.
if you look closely there are already scratches in the finish on the barrel. From what i see its a hard pass unless the finish is improved
Thanks for the review.
I don’t feel like Winchester is the great American company that it used to be, unless you get into their really high end guns. I just wouldn’t feel like I had a genuine Winchester if I purchased something like this.
Winchester doesn't exist anymore. It's just a name. Even their nice center fire lever actions are made in Japan by a company called Miroku. Good guns, but still not made by Winchester.
@@TylerHulan I do really want one of those Winchester 1873's carbine in .45Colt made in Miroku Japan who do make some fine firearms and yes they are labeled Winchester and are made to Winchester specs !!!
@@jeffreyelliott622 oh yeah don't blame you at all. They make a nice rifle for sure.
What do you mean high end guns? they havent made anything in the USA for decades
No mentions of a external safety… is it half cock safety like an original Winchester or not? Thanks
The Winchester has both a manual safety and a half cock safety.
Its probably a trigger button saftey i hate those im a lefty
Miroku made a Winchester like Winchester. Turkey makes Winchester like High-Points and throws in some human-rights violations to boot!
Made in Turkey I assume?
Yes, you can see the manufacturer markings at 1:52
Am I mistaken, or was the only safety feature on that gun the half-cock hammer? I didn't see any crossbolt or lever-press safeties. Does it have a rebounding hammer? Our interviewer failed to ask several important questions!
Henry uses half cock so whats your point?
It could be a trigger saftey of some kind idk but my old marlin the closest that bitch gets to safe is halfcock 😂 i kinda like the simplicity. If i have to shoot when i pull the trigger at the bad guy its going to suck if the hammer falls on a saftey and the gun doesmt go off them i get shot snd die instead because i forgot in the heat of the moment to disinguage the saftey mechanism
Make forged steel receivers great again.
Make guns less affordable again, you mean?
Why on earth would you want a steel receiver for a .22 rimfire? Waste of material that adds unnecessary weight for what amounts to a plinker you’re more likely to want your kid to learn to shoot with than burn tens of thousands of rounds through at a time.
@@Verdha603 look up 94/22.
@@Verdha603 Using aluminium is totally okay for this as it's just .22lr so the receiver won't be subject to any major stresses.
@@Iceaxehikes I’m aware of the 94/22; it made sense in 1972 when aluminum was a “new fangled technology” and polymer was treated like witchcraft. Nowadays aluminum and other lighter materials are better choices rather than sticking to steel and having a .22 rimfire that’s almost as heavy as the Winchester 94 they based it off of.
6 months later and no rifles
Sigh.. made by Sila, then imported by another company, then marketed by Winchester, then sold by individual gun stores. I want to believe, but there's a whole lotta room for finger-pointing when the inevitable little or big flaws come to light - and those steps of separation allow for the marketer to drop it like a hot potato after a year or two.
How about madw in America with a steel receiver? My uncle has a pump 22 that dates from the late 1890s. Its incredibly tight amd glassy smoth in tue action. Do you think that aluminum casting with last 140 plus years with 100,000 through it? Will it last 20 years with 2000?
Yes and yes.
Its 22lr dude, not 300 win mag. Mossberg shotguns are aluminum yet ppl fawn over those
What kind of .22 are you shooting that you think this won't last?
Yes, I think non-pressure bearing aluminum parts could easily last over 140 years with regular use, as long as they aren't seriously abused or have major manufacturing flaws.
@@trentoniousmaximus6299bot
I would have been really excited if it had a threaded barrel. Since its lacking one I might as well buy a Heritage
I have one. It is in excellent condition looks brand new. It sets next to my 4 inch Colt Python Nichol and looks brand new. I did purchase them brand new in the early 70’s. They are gorgeous and not made in Turkey.
Finding 22 shorts isn't difficult. Most certainly shouldn't be difficult for a manufacturer for testing.
I think what he really meant is that they didn't consider it important, and to be honest it probably won't be for most users.
Yep, it’s because they are now mainly an importer and no longer a manufacturer. Bummer…
@@markcmannin the business of making money first 😂
Will be interesting to see it in person compared to the Henry. To me the Henry .22s feel cheap and look the part with the painted zamak receiver.
This is at least machined aluminum with steel parts, does feel kinda 70s, but steel has been priced out of the market for .22 levers and semi-autos outside of the BL-22 and SA-22
Turkey means you’re gonna have to work it over with a file and sandpaper before it feeds reliably.
Its junk man if its from turkey its cursed a sanding wont solve a problem thay requires an exorsism
Loading therounds through the tube end? Should have discussed. I'll stick with my All-American Grade A Walnut HENRY!
My only complaint is that the gun is made in turkey. I would rather get a Henry made in the USA for the same price. I would consider getting one if it’s fairly cheaper than the Henry.
It looks nice. A higher grade sku might sell well at a 599 msrp. Maybe a polished blued finish on the barrel, some checkering on the wood, a gold triggeer and polished hammer.
Ok so Canik pistols are made in Turkey. Why the love for them, but not this rifle? Be consistent folks.
I dont like caniks.
Pistols are a totally different animal...
I will buy HENRY. Made in the U.S.A. Now that's a hand me down rifle.......
I like the design of this new lever action Ranger 22lr !
But I dislike the front sight system with tunel ... I prefer the front sight of 1892's model ... do you think I can change it easily ?
$400 for a Turkish gun when a made-in-USA Henry is $320-ish? And their dig is that the stock Henry sights aren't great? Get a receiver sight like a Skinner and you're still well under the cost of this import.
Henry uses painted Zamak.
Winchester uses blued steel and billet machined hard coat anodized aluminum.
Turkish Winchester > American Henry
@@FinalLugiaGuardian Henry receivers are die-cast. So are the majority of engine blocks and now even major frame components are being cast (famously, Tesla has made the news with their "gigacasting"). It's a more technical process than you'd think, and I doubt if Turkey has the craftsmanship in the die making process to compete. There's a difference between Hot Wheels and a Tesla, even if they're both cast. The Henry is going to be somewhere in between.
@TrojanManSCP
Billet machined aluminum > Die cast zamak.
Winchester > Henry
@@FinalLugiaGuardian You say that as if it's self evidently true without providing any evidence. You know they're both aluminum alloys, right? Henry uses Zamak 5 with improved specs that they tune in-house. Minimum yield strength is 33ksi, which is about 20% higher than common machinable aluminum billet.
To get the same strength in extruded aluminum billet, you need at least a 6000 series alloy and it must have a proper T6 heat treatment. How much do you trust the Turks to get their materials and heat treat right? And even then, it's a smaller improvement of only about 5-10% stronger than Zamak 5. Arguably, Henry's QC and higher specs can make up the difference even if the Turks do everything right. There have to be millions of Henrys out there. If there were a problem with the receivers, it would be news by this point.
@TrojanManSCP Zamak 5 is a softer metal than the Aluminum receiver Winchester is using.
True. We don't know if the Turks will do everything right with the materials they have. If they do, the Winchester will be a better quality than what the henry lever 22 has.
I want to see what Nutnfancy's testing on the Winchester Ranger Revels.
Turkish shotguns suck. Turkish pistols rule. We will see where the Turkish lever action 22s fall soon enough.
Honestly I think the billet aluminum receiver is a nice touch. Don’t see that on any other 22 lever gun. The 1 screw take down is a plus also.
Very nice. Best part is that it is made in Istanbul, Turkey. Isn't that where old pal Bald Bull, from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out, is from?
Winchester always says it is to expensive to build the old 9422. But they under estimate that people will pay for quality. They should do what the guitar makers like Gibson and Fender do and have a Custom shop.
4:25 I just clicked off of this video and googled “22 long” and found 16 different listings for it in stock before I came here. Winchester dropped the ball here all around. This is an afterthought made in Turkey with the Winchester name stamped on it
It would be nice to see a smooth top receiver instead of grooved then drilled and tapped for standard mount scope rings.
Made in Turkey ?! No thanks.
No kidding. The most untrustworthy nato member we have.
People would paid a premium for a usa made product.
@@brianhoxworth3881the cousins over at Browning build the BL22 in Japan, otherwise buy a Henry
Saw that too. I figured theyd be made in Portugal like the M70. Turkey is a no-go
Lot of their stuff is made in Turkey
Where is this thing?
Midway USA was suposed to have them in stock by now (early 2025).
Another Turkish gun. Cool.
The 94/22 shot LR, Long and short. Does this?
They should make a 16" trapper version.
They should make them in America. Same price point as a Henry but made in Turkey? Hard pass
@@jstud999 I can understand how it's always a good idea to buy products made in your own country, but that's not how true free market capitalism works. If another country can make a product for less money and consumers still buy them so it's profitable then that's what's going to happen. Same reason why lots of stuff is made in China or India. A private company should have the freedom to choose whoever they want to manufacture their product. The reason why the USA isn't the main manufacturer of the world like we used to be is because of too much government regulations. Minimum wage laws is only one example, there are several other govt. regulations that cause companies to move their production elsewhere. That's just how free markets operate. If you don't like it, just don't buy the product. I'm not going to condemn an entire country like Turkey or any other country because I disagree with what their ruling class has done in the same way you don't want to be blamed for what Biden does.
@@Prepare2SurviveAmericans won't work
With 22 LR, I think rifles with barrel length longer than 18" is superfluous and starts to get cumbersome.
@@Prepare2Survive sure they absolutely have the will to produce it wherever they’d like. Just like the wildcat 22 they had made in Turkey I have the will to choose it to buy it. Just like the wildcat flopping and doing terrible in sales compared to other options at the same price point this one will follow. I have nothing against foreign made guns I probably own more than American made guns. If I’m buying a Winchester lever action rifle though I’d prefer it to be made in America with some sort of support of something goes wrong. Is that too much to ask? I don’t think so and I think just like the wildcat many will pass on this one because it’s Turkish made.
The barrel bluing is horrible! Did they blue it or is it some cheap oxide of some kind?
turkish guns seem of suspect quality
turkish food is some of the best
gonna go make some pide
They both make you shit your pants.
Love ‘em or hate em Henry is about one of the only gun companies that is actually 100% American that alone will keep my buy their guns over any other
I would only buy a Henry gun if it used either a full steel or a full aluminum receiver instead of Zamak (Zinc + Aluminum aloy that degrades and cracks over time like polymer).
Can't make your own product? Bad as Springfield.
If you're talking about made in the USA, it's been years since the bulk of manufacturing went overseas. All of their lever actions and single shots are made in Japan, while bolt actions are assembled in Portugal. The Wildcat rimfire and SXP shotgun are already made in Turkey.
@@kutter_ttl6786 And then Henry does not do that and you can still get a H001 for $350 lol
@@kutter_ttl6786 I would rather save my pennies and buy a quality and hopefully U.S made product
Well done, Luke! 👍🏻
I might get one
I had a USA made Winchester lever 22 back in the 90’s and I traded it like an idiot. Although having the Browning BL and your typical Henry lever rifles the Winchester is the one I should not have left slip away.
1:54 Thanks Mr. cameraman
As an European, We'd like to have American made guns here, but unfortunately, due to american Export laws, some of the producers moved production to Turkey. Can't wait to get my hand on something like this.
I just got a Henry 22 LR Lever action iron sites for $350 new. I prefer Winchester
Turkeychester
I prefer made in America for barely a little more
Bought the .22 Henry Frontier 24 inch barrel...took off the buckhorn thing and put a Skinner peep in the back and a red fiber optic on the front...Thing is a tack driver, and the barrel is so long it makes a CCI Standard sound like a pellet gun..I have so much with the damn thing I went out and bought the pump..little bit louder with the CCI...but still very accurate with that Skinner sight.
The Henry is American made. The Winchester is a Turkish made gun with Winchester stamped on it. I’ll take the Henry any day
@jstud999 how do these uneducated people hate on Henry
I have a Browning rifle I bought back in the mid 1970's I think it was around 1974 or maybe 1975 guess what, it was made in Japan. I have old Rugers and Marlins and some old Remington rifles, all these foreign guns may be okay but I still like my old guns.
When can we expect to see a tacticool Colt SAA style revolver and a blunderbuss?
Well if it don't come in 22 mag they can keep it
So glad that in late 1972 I went to a local gun store and picked me up a 1972 Winchester Model 9422. That would be first year of manufacture. The fit and finish is awesome. I have only shot about 20 rounds through it. It is a fabulous gun, especially compared to this piece of junk from Turkey.
22mag version? Octagon barrel version?
Just get a Henry. They operate like butter and will last multiple generations.
Regardless of its origin story if "Winchester" decides to make a tacticool version I highly suggest they call it the space ranger
$419, no deal. No point in getting it over a Ruger 10/22 except for feeding subs which you can do with a bolt swap on the 10/22 anyways IIRC.
People getting this want a lever gun for lever guns sake bro. It just sucks winchester picked turkey
@@TheAnnoyingBoss if they want to get a lever gun for lever gun's sake, and they don't care where it's from, there are a lot more options.
Turkey is known for their shotguns, I am curious to see how they sell and what the reviews are for the rifle! I love my Browning BL 22, so I will wait to hear from those who buy it and see what they have to say before I purchase one myself
Known for their crap shotguns sure
Luke looking fit as fuck. Good job dude!
It looks like a reintroduction of a cheaper version of the classic 9422 but without the polished steel receiver and barrel or nice checkered walnut. 1 1/2” groups at 50 yards is ok for plinking, but I wouldn’t be confident taking it squirrel hunting. My 1985 vintage 9422 XTR will easily shoot groups half that size, and is also one of the best looking guns I own. Maybe Winchester will realize that not everybody just wants the cheapest guns and that there are plenty of people willing to pay more for high-quality firearms that will actually become treasured heirlooms.
Winchester really dropped the ball having this made in Turkey… I bought my son a made in Turkey wildcat and it’s trash
The Wildcat is pretty cheap. It has a lot of plastic in it too. If it were 120.00 bucks I'd buy it
The Ruger 10/22 is twice the gun and been around forever.
I rather like the idea of a takedown lever 22 just to have in the truck when on a fishing or camping trip, but that takedown screw looks awfully losable. I’d think a knob or something would be better, like on the old Marlin 39As, though as I think about it further a Ruger 10/22 takedown is probably a better bet, though I’ve never been wild about semiautos.
thats more of just a takedown for cleaning rather than takedown for carrying
Wish it was at least made in Japan .
So you can get overnight parts.
Japan probably better at the tolerancing and quality control but imo texas is where ill make all my guns I dont care about the cost im in it for the love of the game son texas is my states greatest ally state
Lets hope they make this in a mares leg pistol ... to me it would awesome !🤠🤠👍👍
A Turkish Winchester... Notwithstanding legitimate gripes with Turkish QC (or lack thereof), its really unbecoming of a classic American arms maker to source guns from such an un-American place.
I mean winchester makes a lot of guns in a lot of different places too. They make a lot of more expensive guns it sucks this ones from turkey but you csm see how they take other models more seriously the 400 dollar rifle kinda a backburner they made it in turkey. Marlin back in the day made the lever .22s good and it wasny turkey yo