Winchester Lever Action Development: Model 1873

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  • With the Model of 1873, Winchester was able to address the major remaining weakness of the Henry and 1866 rifles - the cartridge. The 1873 was introduced in tandem with the .44Winchester Center Fire cartridge (known more commonly today as the .44-40). This cartridge kept the 200 grain bullet from the .44Henry Rimfire round, but used a brass case (as opposed to copper) and was able to increase the powder charge from 28 grains to 40, for a substantial increase in velocity.
    In addition, the Model 1873 used a lighter steel frame and introduced a sliding dust cover on the top of the action to help keep out dirt and debris. The centerfire nature of the cartridge made it possible to handled ammunition when a commercial source was not available (Winchester sold the reloading tools). The 1873 was available with a wide variety of options, including barrel and magazine lengths, buttstock and grips, sights, and fancy options like engraving. It would prove to be a massively popular weapon both in the United States and abroad, cementing Winchester’s position as the premier manufacturer of American repeating rifles.
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  • @drmaudio
    @drmaudio 7 років тому +671

    I'm reminded again what a valued possession that would be. While $35 would be around $700 today in terms of pure inflation, the median income in '73 was around $2.30/day, compared to around $220/day today. So relative to sacrifice of budget, it would be the equivalent of about a $3,000 rifle today. It's popularity despite it's cost is a reminder how much people valued their firearms.

    • @ghostrider6267
      @ghostrider6267 7 років тому +20

      Gun Sense (drmaudio) that's great to know about!

    • @redneckwithajeep5001
      @redneckwithajeep5001 5 років тому +40

      Your comment just made me realize it’s well worth buying a new one. I never took the income into it in the past. I might actually go out and buy a new Winchester now

    • @dapsapsrp
      @dapsapsrp 4 роки тому +28

      They were absolute necessary pieces of equipment to many people of the day especially to those who lived outside of big cities and had to rely on themselves and their gear to survive.

    • @charlie1571
      @charlie1571 4 роки тому +10

      With that cost it is reasonable to think theft was another way to procure this beautiful rifle or murder.

    • @Bourikii2992
      @Bourikii2992 4 роки тому +45

      Except you also have to look at cost of living as well. Room and board for men was apparently like 6 dollars a month. Or 129 dollars today. Lol you can barely buy a tent for 1 today for that much money. Let alone room and board.
      So you didn't need to worry about rent or food because it be payed off in 2 days if you were making average pay. I spend an entire month paying for rent and utilities. Let alone groceries.

  • @d.a.2742
    @d.a.2742 2 роки тому +91

    My Winchester 1873 44-40 Carbine just turned 130 years (1891)young in 2021 and still functions and fires beautifully....even have an original 1873( 1881) cleaning rod kit that fits nicely in the butt stock! Love it 😊

  • @mattrobinson5099
    @mattrobinson5099 3 роки тому +30

    Today I learned there's a word for the sealing action of a brass case in the chamber, obturation. Thanks Ian!

  • @1337penguinman
    @1337penguinman 7 років тому +312

    Winchester '73. The AR-15 of its day.

    • @DrSpoon-iu4hs
      @DrSpoon-iu4hs 5 років тому +36

      1337penguinman but they didn’t have libtards trying to band it

    • @bikerbob2005
      @bikerbob2005 5 років тому +6

      Few years later built this in 10 Gage . Level up

    • @professional_cynic98
      @professional_cynic98 5 років тому +19

      Also it’s still probably the most beautiful rifle of its day

    • @coleparker
      @coleparker 4 роки тому +13

      Shhh! don't say that too loud. Feinstein and others will try to have it banned.

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths 3 роки тому +1

      Did you just call most westerners in the 19th century self entitled, clueless jackasses?

  • @docp6325
    @docp6325 4 роки тому +45

    I just want to thank the random guy on youtube that recommended this channel some time back, I cam across the comment, searched this channel, and have yet to be disappointed. Quality, informative, and endless videos. I could watch this stuff all day.

    • @hunterkiller7352
      @hunterkiller7352 4 роки тому +6

      The world of firearms is so damn interesting. It's got a bit to do with everything, chemistry, engineering, woodworking, politics, etc. Seeing what comes of the production of these tools is fascinating.

    • @liamcraddock9539
      @liamcraddock9539 2 роки тому +3

      @@hunterkiller7352 Yes that's it. The amount of funny looks and "oh what you want to be a serial killer or something?" you get when you say you find firearms interesting (especially being in the UK, like me). But yeah I always have to explain that there are so many more elements to it and quite rarely are people interested in firearms for sinister reasons as opposed to reasons you listed

  • @Dregkar
    @Dregkar 7 років тому +224

    I just love old rifles like that. Imagine all the people that owned it, took care of it, the stories it might have had and maybe even the people killed by it. Might be a bit morbid but it is really fascinating to me.

    • @_yellow
      @_yellow 7 років тому +26

      Mellisco As they say about the walls of a house; "Imagine if those walls could speak"

    • @lavrentivs9891
      @lavrentivs9891 7 років тому +12

      Just don't think of all the rifles who were neglected and left to rust =P

    • @ricashbringer9866
      @ricashbringer9866 5 років тому +13

      Oliver Winchesters daughter went nuts and built a house she said she was told to build to house the souls of those killed by her father's guns. You can visit the house today. It was featured on " Believe It or Not."

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 4 роки тому +9

      if we are being realistic most guns are likely never so much as pointed at another person let alone fired.
      Likely carried around a farm, shot game, and mabey alot of empty cans

    • @stuarthart3370
      @stuarthart3370 2 роки тому +1

      @@therideneverends1697 I was given a Winchester similar to the one in the video. I was staying in the top corner of Arkansas and was surrounded by woods and scrub for miles. I was eagerly anticipating some live meat rather than the usual hillbilly roadkill stew. My cousin who gave me the gun was pretty nonchalant about gun ownership as at around the age of 60 he'd had a gun since he was 6 years old, airgun of course. I thought of the old Winchester, with great affection, what an amazing piece of engineering!

  • @HereticDuo
    @HereticDuo 4 роки тому +58

    From the producers of "Goldylocks and the 3 bears" comes the newest blockbuster,
    "Ian and the 3 winchesters"

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths 3 роки тому

      Sure it wasn't from the Producers of Battleship?`The dialogue seemed somewhat familiar, although facial expression and body language were leagues above that movie...

  • @jimvandemoter6961
    @jimvandemoter6961 7 років тому +25

    That full stock gun might be a little unwieldy, but It's the coolest of the three. I'd like to see a modern replica from somebody.

  • @SeraphinaPZ
    @SeraphinaPZ 7 років тому +364

    Comes in three handy-dandy sizes, "Sensible", "Compensating", and "MORE DAKKA".

    • @terminator572
      @terminator572 7 років тому +17

      Sera kind of difficult to achieve proper DAKKA quantities with a lever action tho

    • @underdog1252
      @underdog1252 6 років тому +38

      At the point in time when bullets can pass through the interdimensional walls. When firepower takes up the entirety and eternity of space and time, all beings stuck in a neverending life and death cycle as bullets recover and destroy their bodies in quick succession. No one is able to think about anything but the sheer force of the bullets rapidly flying literally everywhere in the materium turning the warp itself into nothing but a sea of automatic weaponry.. Then there will be enough dakka. Or, at least almost.

    • @kidbach
      @kidbach 5 років тому +3

      shootier!

    • @thatlemonguy1107
      @thatlemonguy1107 5 років тому +3

      Yo tf is dakka

    • @thegeneralissimo470
      @thegeneralissimo470 5 років тому +11

      @@terminator572 You say that like it's a challenge for Orks to do that.

  • @mounirdarwiche6075
    @mounirdarwiche6075 11 місяців тому +44

    The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.

  • @cocogutierrez509
    @cocogutierrez509 Рік тому +3

    💥I`m from Argentina in Corrientes Province and all about these really rifles Winnchester`s models have made the real history of America......congratulations to you for the informations all about its..thank you. Jorge Fernando "Coco"GUTIERREZ

  • @zoltanbodnar9721
    @zoltanbodnar9721 7 років тому +77

    the last time I clicked so fast Ian was talking about the model 66

  • @MODNAR22
    @MODNAR22 7 років тому +15

    Beautiful rifles. Without a doubt my favourite long gun ever made.

  • @wallyfirkins1664
    @wallyfirkins1664 3 роки тому +4

    I just found this video. Thanks. I have just disassembled and cleaned the internal parts in preparation to shoot my 1889 made 38-40 model 1873. My rifle has a 30" barrel and while it has lost much of it's original finish, it will be a good shooter. I have just received black powder ammo from Buffalo Arms Co and a magazine spring and a screw for the magazine tube from Homestead Parts. The firearm was very crusty internally but it still has fair rifling. It was part of a collection my siblings and I inherited from my father. My father never attempted to clean or shoot any of the many old firearms he had and would never let one of us whipper snappers touch them. I think he must have know us better than we did ourselves. Anyway, it is ready to go to the range and I can't wait.

  • @healyburnham393
    @healyburnham393 5 місяців тому

    Ian, it ia always a pleasure to see your videos. Cousin Warren GAVE me a '73 in .38 WCF and my wife bought me a 1st generation Colt for a companion. Yes, I am doubly blessed!!

  • @b.hagedash7973
    @b.hagedash7973 7 років тому +234

    ...And looking over the bullet ridden corpses of mamma bear and poppa, bear baby bear smiled uncertainly at Goldilocks, pushed his bowl of porridge away and didn't say a thing.

    • @gravitysnegative1962
      @gravitysnegative1962 7 років тому +4

      B. Hagedash wow where is this from

    • @Jesses001
      @Jesses001 7 років тому +15

      Rifle too big, too small, just right is where Hagedash got that from.

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths 3 роки тому +2

      I do not think that in all his many thousands of videos Ian has EVER harmed a single animal willingly. He's not THAT sort of gun "enthusiast".
      also it would be "riddled" not ridden.

  • @TheAlmostbob
    @TheAlmostbob 7 років тому +13

    Always puts a smile on my face when I remember that Ian's a lefty! Im not alone!

    • @LOVEMUFFIN_official
      @LOVEMUFFIN_official 3 роки тому +2

      That was one of the main reasons that I switched to lever guns: no preference for handedness.

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 7 років тому +498

    So, is Ian... Gun-dielocks?

    • @RyanRyzzo
      @RyanRyzzo 7 років тому +20

      BADUM DISHHHKLUBLISHQUEUulishdishtishssssh!
      Oops, dropped it....

    • @jonathanbecker6373
      @jonathanbecker6373 7 років тому +1

      Thank you.

    • @ComputingCactus
      @ComputingCactus 7 років тому +8

      Smooth as ex lax.

    • @GrOuNdZeRo7777
      @GrOuNdZeRo7777 7 років тому +18

      Gun Jesus, Gun-dielock... At this point, What difference does it make?

    • @TheRogueWolf
      @TheRogueWolf 7 років тому +2

      I'm glad you made the joke so that I didn't have to.

  • @herpderp117
    @herpderp117 7 років тому +6

    Loving this series Ian, keep it up man.

  • @HughesEnterprises
    @HughesEnterprises 7 років тому +9

    Up until 1879-ish the dust cover was an optional upgrade for a few cents more. I have personally bought an original 1873 mfg in 1875 without the dust cover option in .44 WCF. Very unusual and interesting that somebody wanted to save $0.70 on their $40 rifle.

    • @trippcailean9594
      @trippcailean9594 6 років тому

      well yeah. gotta save some money for ammo

    • @cs-rj8ru
      @cs-rj8ru 9 місяців тому

      Maybe you're putting too much throught into it? Perhaps the Original owner walked into a local hardware store and it was what was available? Probably said, I'll take it.

  • @brianfuller7691
    @brianfuller7691 5 років тому +9

    To put cost into context, a cowboy earned somewhere between $25 and $40( depending on experience ). A '73 was a significant rifle and purchase but was popular. It was expensive but well worth it. This was the model that really made the Winchester brand after the success with the Yellow Boy '66. Winchester would make more than 720 ,000 '73s.

  • @azizcook1651
    @azizcook1651 2 роки тому +17

    As someone who wants to become a gunsmith some day, I really like how he touches every detail of the history behind these weapons systems. Gonna make this guys channel my bible when I wanna learn more about a fire arm.

    • @user-ho4nw5sf3w
      @user-ho4nw5sf3w 9 місяців тому

      Good luck on the gunsmithing career. From an old gunsmith.

    • @michaelgarcia4035
      @michaelgarcia4035 3 місяці тому

      I cannot reccomend enough C&Rsenal and there gunsmith Mark Novak. They cover the history of firearms in waaaay more depth in roughly hour long videos, complete with xray animations made in house. Mark has his own youtube channel that covers techniques to resoration and preservation as well as some other areas in gunsmithing. He sometimes restores firearms for the main channel episodes.

  • @dayward1
    @dayward1 7 років тому +5

    I didn't know about the .30WCF and the 30-.30. I haven't heard of the WCF .30 until now. Thanks for the knowledge Ian.

  • @legionitalia309
    @legionitalia309 7 років тому +143

    "The battle of Little Big Horn, where I...er, I mean Custer got annihilated...."

    • @hericbagley8286
      @hericbagley8286 4 роки тому +6

      I always wondered where the Sioux obtained the bulk of their lever actions and if French Canadian trader's weren't working the friction for political reasons as much as for profit

    • @pixelatedvolume8051
      @pixelatedvolume8051 3 роки тому +16

      As I understand it there was never really a unified Sioux military force until immediately before Little Bighorn, so the rifles would have been bought individually or in small groups. Probably didn’t arouse suspicion like buying 1000+ at once would.

    • @samuelreed2994
      @samuelreed2994 3 роки тому +1

      riiiight!

  • @therugburnz
    @therugburnz 7 років тому +2

    Thanx to Ian some of our history will not become forgotten weapons , merely interesting. Well merely is the wrong word. When Ian likes, chooses, describes and disassembles a weapon it will not soon be forgotten.
    Thanx Ian !

  • @copper-tc6un
    @copper-tc6un 2 роки тому +8

    One improvement of the 1873 over the 1866, was a system to prevent the rifle firing before the bolt was fully locked in battery. A small gravity dropped pin in front of the 1873's cartridge elevator would fall down during the completion of the lever cycle, preventing the rifle from firing out of battery.

    • @Khrrck
      @Khrrck 2 роки тому +1

      Since it's gravity operated, does that mean it would not work if held sideways, vertically or upside down?
      Can't really think of situations where you would do that sort of thing (shooting through a horizontal slit?), but it's an interesting thought.

    • @copper-tc6un
      @copper-tc6un 2 роки тому +2

      @@Khrrck It won't work if the rifle is upside down. You'd have to be ripping really fast to get it to fail if you held it sideways, but the rifles lifter would probably kick the cartridge out before chambering it.

  • @troy9477
    @troy9477 7 років тому +8

    Great condition on those. Nice to see the three variations together. Custer didn't just get himself annihilated (which would, frankly, be no great tragedy- he was a big prima donna, Patton took lessons from him), he got 1/3 or 1/2 his regiment annihilated with him. Always listen carefully to the intel from your scouts. I'm guessing the 38-40 nomenclature must have gotten backward somehow and they had to stick with the typo. Everyone knows it's a 40 cal bore. Anyway, great video as always. Enjoying the Winchester history series. Thank you

  • @Daemascus
    @Daemascus 7 років тому +9

    Oooooh that musket length model, I think Im in love.

  • @RegretsnothinG7
    @RegretsnothinG7 7 років тому +27

    The Goldilocks introduction was an interesting change...

  • @CGRstudios1
    @CGRstudios1 7 років тому +129

    Gun Jesus blesses us with his sacraments

  • @unherolike
    @unherolike 4 роки тому +5

    My '73 is a 200K series putting it at a 1888 production date and the Action still is still smoother then anything Henry or Uberti make today.

    • @Master...deBater
      @Master...deBater 4 роки тому

      Why do you feel the need to come on here and make us all feel bad???

  • @HK_roller_delayed
    @HK_roller_delayed 7 років тому +10

    Really enjoying this series! I can't wait for the episode on the 1892!

  • @riverstyxarmory9782
    @riverstyxarmory9782 7 років тому +1

    this is a great video to watch while floating a stock for my class rifle. thank you Ian.

  • @Payneless
    @Payneless 7 років тому +2

    I knew where the intro was going, but I really enjoyed it. Keep up the great work Ian!

  • @m118lr
    @m118lr 3 роки тому

    I have a 1901 production ‘73 with the 24” octagon bbl in .38 WCF (38-40). It’s in great shape..MY appraisal, and it will be handed down. LOVE it. Also have a ‘newer’ model ‘94 ((.30-30) produced mid-50’s, BOTH have pristine bores. Excellent vid, thanks...

  • @dapsapsrp
    @dapsapsrp 4 роки тому +8

    The more firearms trends head in a tactical direction the more I desire one of these. They speak much more to craftsmanship than mere cookie cutter industrial manufacturing.

  • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
    @georgesakellaropoulos8162 4 роки тому +4

    Dear Ian, the. 38-40 is actually chambered for a .401 in. diameter projectile, making it 40 caliber. Oops, looks like Himlow Odemire beat me to it. That's to be expected when you arrive to the party this late.

  • @dalesubic345
    @dalesubic345 7 років тому +6

    Ian. I really love lever guns. Your videos are always superb. Thank you for making so many outstanding videos. That is the military "outstanding" from a 27 year veteran.

  • @himlowodinmire1333
    @himlowodinmire1333 7 років тому +49

    Ian, great video and content as always and finally a gun that I actually own! However one mistake that is easily made is that 38WCF or 38-40 isn't a .38 caliber but rather a .401 caliber. Keep up the great work!

    • @akodo1
      @akodo1 4 роки тому +10

      Came here to post the same thing...but part of my brain is also saying "hey...the 44-40 is really 43 caliber" and then I started thinking "and 38 is really .36" so then what? Sometimes I just want to get in a time machine and smack those old time cartridge namers!

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths 3 роки тому +5

      @@akodo1 There should be laws about such things having to actually hold up to a measuring gauge.

    • @markrhuett
      @markrhuett 3 роки тому +3

      Why does it say 38 on the barrel?

    • @korbetthein3072
      @korbetthein3072 3 роки тому +3

      @@markrhuett The inside diameter of the case mouth is .38, the outside is roughly
      .40. Other people have much longer and more detailed explanations than me.

    • @markrhuett
      @markrhuett 3 роки тому +2

      @@korbetthein3072 That's a good explanation. Thank you.

  • @quarthinos
    @quarthinos 7 років тому +8

    Great video as always. I'm a bit disappointed you didn't go over how the dust cover worked, tho, since that seems to be the major mechanical difference from the 1866 :(

  • @TylerHulan
    @TylerHulan 5 років тому +3

    Just bought an old Euroarms 1873 clone in .357 today. Looks like they did a pretty good job replicating it.

  • @mostlymagical3220
    @mostlymagical3220 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve got one of these in .32-20, and I have yet to shoot it, thanks for the video, Ian!

  • @danieljob3184
    @danieljob3184 5 років тому +1

    You can see a stock-cut version of the shorty used by Woody Strode (Once Upon a Time in the West) and Gina Torres (Firefly / Serenity).

  • @aaronloveday4858
    @aaronloveday4858 3 роки тому +6

    I know this is a old video and it really doesn’t matter but the 38-40 bullet was a 40 caliber bullet on 38 grains of powder. For what ever reason the nomenclature on the bullet is backwards of other calibers.

  • @SolarEmp1re
    @SolarEmp1re 7 років тому

    That rifle length with the full stock is very appealing, I wish someone would make on of those.

  • @TrikeRoadPoet
    @TrikeRoadPoet 7 років тому

    Love this series!

  • @nomadpi1
    @nomadpi1 2 роки тому

    Thanks. Pertinent survey info. My experience is the lever-action is the most comfortable German-Hand carry weapon available today. The Garand also fits this ease of carry.

  • @Aravzil
    @Aravzil 7 років тому

    Damn, I love the look of that stubby one. It looks so cool!

  • @omartorres5688
    @omartorres5688 2 роки тому +1

    My favorite of the Winchester series especially the octagonal barrel though I would really like to get a reproduction Musket version in either .44-40 or Smith and Wesson .44 magnum

  • @weltvonalex
    @weltvonalex 7 років тому

    Ian is the best, my favorite channel after the great war. Gun Jesus for the win!

  • @markhawkins6276
    @markhawkins6276 7 років тому +5

    Thanks for your review of the development of the Winchester lever actions. I hope you get to the later versions. What I would really like to know is if you can really add a set screw to the lever to make a rapid fire lever action? :)

  • @stacybrown3714
    @stacybrown3714 7 років тому +1

    I am enjoying this journey of Winchester lever guns. Thanks Gun Jesus.

  • @beau4687
    @beau4687 7 років тому +2

    Waking up to an 1873 video by Ian, having my morning coffee and smoke just before I go to work at the gunshop. Life's good

  • @jamespfp
    @jamespfp 5 років тому +1

    "The Goldilocks Gun" -- Great intro Ian!

  • @drewbarker8504
    @drewbarker8504 Рік тому +1

    It’s so interesting to see the musket version.

  • @matejmatej3554
    @matejmatej3554 7 років тому

    I love love love your Channel keep up the good work you always get my both thumbs up greetings from Slovenia I hope you visit someday

  • @teddyfartypants
    @teddyfartypants 6 років тому +2

    I remember my father had one of these around ten years ago. It was a custom gun with the owner's surname, "Vickers" (it's been so long but I think that was it), stamped on it and it was a short carbine though it was pretty heavy. The tube held only seven rounds of .44-40. Shortly before my father sold it I shot it a few dozen times. The brass goose-egged and cracked every time, so I don't know if this thing was made for black powder cartridges or it was just too worn out.

  • @geoff2027
    @geoff2027 3 роки тому +1

    Just looking through an old Sears. Roebuck (1897) catalog that I have, the 24 inch standard version 1873 that they have listed sold for $10.94.

  • @m143l
    @m143l 3 роки тому

    Very informative, thank you.

  • @Loot1377
    @Loot1377 5 років тому

    You're awesome Ian

  • @LTCEZIO
    @LTCEZIO 2 роки тому

    If all the UA-camrs I was hoping you'd sell merchandise cause I would definitely buy some of it

  • @alpagator1372
    @alpagator1372 7 років тому +45

    Haha. Love that starting skit.

  • @NEPAscallywag
    @NEPAscallywag 7 років тому +145

    so $35 is around $600+ in todays value, it had a high volume of fire and was reliable and loved by its owners. it was the ar-15 of its day, Good thing dianne feinstein wasn't around back then.

    • @Mildcat743
      @Mildcat743 7 років тому +58

      NEPAscallywag Have you seen her? She looks like she predates this rifle a few dozen years

    • @AZNwannabe06
      @AZNwannabe06 7 років тому +35

      These hold more than 10 rounds though(!!!!1!), so she still wants it banned.
      Over 130 year old technology and it's still too advanced for backwards antigunners.

    • @deepwoodskentuckian
      @deepwoodskentuckian 6 років тому

      Fun fact feinstein has been around sense queen Victoria!

    • @QurttoRco
      @QurttoRco 5 років тому

      And what do you need a AR - 15 for ?

    • @QurttoRco
      @QurttoRco 5 років тому

      Universal Kombat Like what ?

  • @lukeyama7328
    @lukeyama7328 Рік тому +2

    I'd like to see the famous Chuck Connors winchester.

  • @KurtOnoIR
    @KurtOnoIR 6 років тому

    I was just watching mixup98 about the one that was left leaning on a tree up in Nevada there. Pretty sweet.

  • @kruqtion9615
    @kruqtion9615 7 років тому +77

    I hope you do a 'Guns from Red Dead Redemption 2' video like the one you did with battlefield 1

    • @BrassCatcher
      @BrassCatcher 5 років тому +9

      Adam Young researching it yourself would yield more useful info than a video with 15 different guns being the topic

    • @welshy4638
      @welshy4638 4 роки тому +2

      Ian did the BF1 video's because he was an advisor for Dice on WW1 weapons.

    • @TedMan55
      @TedMan55 4 роки тому +2

      Kruqtion The weapons in RDR2 are like the cars in GTA, they’re using fake names and are only close to the weapons they’re modeling. I’m pretty sure the Lancaster Repeater in game is the 1873 (“Lancaster” seems to be RDR2’s fake name for Winchester, considering the pump shotgun that seems to be an Winchester 1897 is also a Lancaster), and the Lichtfield Repeater is the 1860 Henry. The default repeater that’s all around camp and that you get first (I think called the Carbine Repeater) is an 1860 Spencer. The Evans is an Evans (I’m on PC, so not sure if console got the Evans).

    • @lordbear1095
      @lordbear1095 4 роки тому

      @@TedMan55 the lancaster is a winchester 66

    • @TedMan55
      @TedMan55 4 роки тому

      Lord Bear that’s what i see on the wiki, although given that the in game version is just inspired by the real thing, and that the 73 was mostly just a rechambering of a 66 for .44-40 and not significantly visually distinct, the artistic liberties in the game version probably overshadow any differences and makes it impossible to say what it actually is

  • @Hidalguense
    @Hidalguense 7 років тому +47

    nothing like a lever rifle

    • @dubsy1026
      @dubsy1026 7 років тому

      hidalguense d corazon by those 4 words you mean? there is no real discernable meaninf

    • @philipshearer5286
      @philipshearer5286 4 роки тому +2

      @@dubsy1026 there is no gun which quite matches the elegance of a lever action rifle, it's not that hard

    • @notahotshot
      @notahotshot 4 роки тому

      @@dubsy1026, five words, there are five words.

    • @dubsy1026
      @dubsy1026 4 роки тому

      Apologies, I was probably feeling excessively quip-y at the time. It seems my enthusiasm got the better of me.

    • @jackdundon2261
      @jackdundon2261 4 роки тому +1

      So did he say 4 words or was it 5? To tell you the truth, I was so engrossed I lost count too. You got to ask yourself, "do I go back or continue watching"?

  • @badgerdan8114
    @badgerdan8114 7 років тому +76

    These videos are making me even more excited for red dead 2

    • @FirstDagger
      @FirstDagger 7 років тому +3

      Meh no PC version .... stupid Rockstar ...

    • @theOneRizzolliMick
      @theOneRizzolliMick 7 років тому +8

      Actually... Red Dead Redemption 2 is Red Dead 3. Don't forget Red Dead Revolver (the 1st one).

    • @theOneRizzolliMick
      @theOneRizzolliMick 7 років тому

      SubmarinerSix Well, I agree that no one remembers it, and that even Rockstar forgot about it...

    • @marshallperry2446
      @marshallperry2446 7 років тому +2

      I would disagree, rockstar didn't forget, they just knew that the majority of their current audience had never even heard of it. It was a rather good game, not great, but one that you would enjoy. It just didn't enjoy the same popularity as many other westerns did at the time like Gun, so fewer people had seen it in the first place.

    • @whiplasher8
      @whiplasher8 7 років тому +1

      Um Ian , the 38-40 is actually a .40 caliber round not a true 38 .

  • @pauljnolan1000
    @pauljnolan1000 7 років тому +4

    Ian, you omitted perhaps the most striking fact about the Winchester '73. What was that, you ask? Winchester '73, a 1950 movie starring Jimmy Stewart was the first Hollywood film to permit a star to share in the profits! Stewart's agent was the legendary Lew Wasserman who negotiated a 50/50 split with the studio. The film was a hit and Stewart made buckets of money which was taxed as a capital gain, even further increasing Stewart's haul. The studios quickly realized their error, but the genie was out of the bottle. First rank stars, producers, and directors went from being exceptionally well-paid employees to wealthy people able to live off their capital for the rest of their lives. Can you imagine what James Cameron made from Titanic?
    I always enjoy your videos!

  • @grantpilcher8402
    @grantpilcher8402 Рік тому +1

    My Winchester 1873 16 inch barrel just turned 150 years old

  • @BULLDOGVII
    @BULLDOGVII Рік тому

    Love it!!

  • @colsoncustoms8994
    @colsoncustoms8994 7 років тому

    Oooooo I can't wait for the next video.

  • @jeramyw
    @jeramyw 4 роки тому +3

    7:24 38-40 is a 40 caliber projectile over 38 grains of black powder.

  • @edwarddesoignie1396
    @edwarddesoignie1396 3 роки тому

    One more since Ian mentioned the Little Big Horn fight. Part of the problem with the Springfields used by the 7th Cavalry was using ammunition with copper cases which caused problems for the troopers in that the case would get stuck disabling the rifle.

    • @duanesamuelson2256
      @duanesamuelson2256 2 роки тому +1

      Case issues, sticking primarily but also ruptures where fairly common through the early 1900,s.
      It's why the early rifles cartridges often had rather extreme tapers by today's standards (look at the .375 H&H).
      That oversized claw extractor on the Mauser actually helped prevent tearing the case when one was stuck.

  • @skraabruh8294
    @skraabruh8294 5 років тому

    Ian ur a good guy man nice video's

  • @doraran5158
    @doraran5158 7 років тому +2

    Bullet is actually .401 diameter, not .38 nor .357.
    Also, older gun sources claimed the taper of case was to facilitate chambering and extraction. The .38-40's bullet also supposedly had some ballistic benefits. The rims on the .38-40 and .44-40 thicker reportedly to limit shearing on extraction. Early cases of 'balloon head' type and softer. Modern gun writers question why Winchester didn't just chamber it for .45 Colt. (Uberti does it now but cartridge metallurgy now far superior.)Supposedly the thinner rims of the .45 Colt had concerns with shearing. This is also reason the .45 Schofield was designed with wider rims, and shorter chambers, to prevent an accidental .45 Colt insertion, since concern of cartridge extractors shearing or skipping rims. Anyway, that was what early 1900's gun writers were writing

  • @plague1739
    @plague1739 3 роки тому +1

    Lever action rifles possible some of my favorite guns

  • @otanalezinek3221
    @otanalezinek3221 7 років тому

    you are just right Ian.

  • @doctim111
    @doctim111 5 років тому +2

    Yes, it's just right. Once the Browning mods were introduced the slickness went away.

  • @zuttoaragi8349
    @zuttoaragi8349 3 роки тому

    That cold open is cringey brilliance and I love it.

  • @johnyricco1220
    @johnyricco1220 7 років тому +1

    Could you do a video explaining the internal workings of the Colt-Burgess and 1881 Marlin?

  • @mcpypr
    @mcpypr 7 років тому

    The side plates fo the 1873's were changed to simplify production as well.

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 7 років тому +1

    I'll take the very short one thank you very much.

  • @nodosa994
    @nodosa994 7 років тому +2

    I just love weapons from the late 19th century.

  • @timburns4880
    @timburns4880 9 місяців тому

    I was just re-watching the lever action series (on the new History of Weapons and War app) and I caught a small oops by Ian. He said that the ‘73 was chambered in .38-40…which it was…but he said that was a .44-40 necked down to .38 caliber. Ian….you know the .38-40 is actually a .40 caliber bullet. For some reason, the nomenclature was reversed for this round. Not a major mistake, I know, but the small details are what matters. Love the new app, btw!!!

  • @johnnysmith4576
    @johnnysmith4576 5 місяців тому

    It would be cool to see the reloading kit they sold back then.

  • @filanfyretracker
    @filanfyretracker 5 років тому +3

    These were not cheap rifles though I checked the inflation and at 50 bucks for its higher end before fancy options is equal to 1165 today. Admittedly back then on the frontier the rifle was very literally what separated life from death(considering even without having to defend it made the food dead enough to be dinner) it was certainly worthwhile expense. Probably as important as your Horse.

  • @dekstehnrasta741
    @dekstehnrasta741 7 років тому +2

    The 1873, my favorite rifle.

  • @peternewton2200
    @peternewton2200 5 років тому +1

    That carbine just looks bad ass

  • @douro20
    @douro20 7 років тому +1

    You can still buy .44-40 black powder ammunition but it's quite expensive.

  • @anter176
    @anter176 7 років тому +1

    Damn the fullstock rifle is snazzy

  • @joeguzman8783
    @joeguzman8783 7 років тому

    one of my friends got a new Turnbull and it's like a real work of art ,he paid 8k but it's worth every cent

  • @michaeldemetriou1399
    @michaeldemetriou1399 6 років тому

    goldey looks and the three rifles i love the videos all the videos

  • @GreatgoatonFire
    @GreatgoatonFire 7 років тому +4

    Ian do you think you will ever be able to make a video about the H&K G-11 or just the idea of caseless firearms in general?
    I find it fascinating that there seems to be this huge leap forward in firearms technology since the 80's that no one is interested in actually making.

  • @stevebrown8745
    @stevebrown8745 5 років тому +3

    How do I find more on the Mexican trapper need to know more.

  • @mazkact
    @mazkact 7 років тому +16

    Plethora ? Would ju say El Guapo has a plethora of Winchesters ?

    • @carnut015
      @carnut015 5 років тому +3

      mazkact Do you even know what a plethora IS???

  • @pikeywyatt
    @pikeywyatt 7 років тому

    can i come and live in USA .and spend my try lite years with things that go bang and i love.from a OAP in the UK.

  • @matandcat2506
    @matandcat2506 7 років тому +1

    regarding the henry mechanism, is the same mechanism used in the martini henry rifle or is it just coincidence?

  • @gonshocks
    @gonshocks 7 років тому +1

    I love the movie "Winchester 73".

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket 11 місяців тому +1

    7:20 The .38-40 was indeed a necked down .44-40, but it is not a "38 caliber" as stated, it is a .4005 caliber (or 10mm). The naming convention on this cartridge is sort of backward compared to the usual convention, for weird reasons.