SPICULES ARE A TIKTOK SKINCARE TREND *i have concerns*
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- SPICULES ARE A TIKTOK SKINCARE TREND. Dermatologist @DrDrayzday reacts to skincare tiktok trend of spicules as a form of microneedling. #tiktok #tiktokskincare #dermatologist
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Kim TG, Lee Y, Kim MS, Lim J. A novel dermal delivery system using natural spicules for cosmetics and therapeutics. J Cosmet Dermatol. 2022 Oct;21(10):4754-4764. doi: 10.1111/jocd.14771. Epub 2022 Feb 1. PMID: 35034416.
Ha JM, Lim CA, Han K, Ha JC, Lee HE, Lee Y, Seo YJ, Kim CD, Lee JH, Im M. The Effect of Micro-Spicule Containing Epidermal Growth Factor on Periocular Wrinkles. Ann Dermatol. 2017 Apr;29(2):187-193. doi: 10.5021/ad.2017.29.2.187. Epub 2017 Mar 24. Erratum in: Ann Dermatol. 2017 Dec;29(6):828. PMID: 28392646; PMCID: PMC5383744.
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0:00 Skin care spicules on Tiktok
1:21 What are spicules?
2:05 What are the skin benefits of spicules?
10:39 What are side effects of spicules in skin care?
14:02 Sponge dermatitis
18:47 Final thoughts on spicules in skin care
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Happy Valentine’s Day Dr. Dray! I refuse to tik or tok so I am happy to remain ignorant to some of this ridiculousness. However, I am equally happy to know that you and others continue to dispel myths and misinformation for the masses on these social media platforms.❤❤ 💘💘
Happy Valentine's Day!
The amount of science backed information you provide is amazing. My favourite UA-camr.
Did you hear that sound? That was every marine ecologist screaming.
I love the saying ‘I like to point out, you’re not a pig’ 😂- thanks Dr Dray, you cracked me up. Great as always.
As a Korean I get annoyed when people come up with this most random questionable skicare hacks and label it as kbeauty. Yes I've seen the skincare trend that was trending a decade ago trending again (or allegedly by the content creator) but I've never seen aaaanything like this before and this don't sound like k beauty because it's all about non invasive lol
I feel the same way when people randomly attribute things to my country too.
Well it’s about gentle skincare vs the American harsh skincare. South Korea is the plastic surgery capital of the world so to say non-invasive is stretch.
Thanks a lot! I was super convinced of the cica reedle, but the potential of side effects in the future is scary
😂😂 “can you imagine if someone from the clean beauty movement came across 2-hydroxymethyldimethylsulfoxonium chloride? They’d be quakin’ in their boots…but hand them a sponge…?” 👏👏🙌🙌😂😂
I love the people who comment on Dr Dray videos, it’s a very positive community here! Happy Valentine’s Day everyone! 💓💓
Thank You So Much!! Happy Valentines Day to You Too!!🤗
These trends need to sit down!! 💯 Thanks for the clarification, as always, Doc---Happy Valentine's Day!! 💘
These emergent methods that are straight to market scream “new idea to get your money!” Instead of “highly effective treatment.” Same reason they come up with new potato chip flavors- “spend money! Food is entertaining and new!”
Dr Andrea, your dry humor is always on point lol. I always learn a lot from your videos.
Glad you like them!
Happy Valentine's Day, Dr. Dray!! Thanks for all your incredible information, and for educating us every single day!! 💘
Greetings Fran Ameri hope u r well n Happy Tuesday/ V Day😀👍💜💐!!!…
Happy Valentine’s Day
Happy Tuesday Dr. Dray!
You saved my skin, thank you!
I would appreciate it if you can talk about different laser procedures, like for acne scars and also hair and scalp issues too!
Happy Valentine🎉
I have several videos on laser and light based devices for scars and hair loss
Happy Valentines Day, Dr. Dray!!
I’m so glad you chose this topic, I was curious about this trend but couldn’t find much on it. I didn’t like how the user said that she could still feel the needles in her face the day after. Thank you for your vid is so informational.
Can I just say how much I love your humor? It's especially the dead-pan delivery that actually gets me laughing out loud
I don’t watch TicToc & I appreciate how you educate us on things! Happy Valentine’s Day!🥰
TikTok is crazy 🤪 Happy Valentine's Day Dr. Dray. ❤
You too!
If you feel the need to wear gloves for it then why would you think it's a good idea to rub on your face!? 😂
Right
Right about the same reason why gloves are used when applying a chemical peel. It's to protect the esthetician's hands (can you imagine if no gloves were worn each time a peel service was performed on another client? RIP poor skin and super gross) and to keep things sanitized and clean for the client. If you're performing any type of service in which an acid/mechanical exfoliation is used, the skin is essentially going to be newly exfoliated and "fresh/fragile". The last thing you want to get on that fresh and fragile skin is bacteria.....that's why gloves are used. Could you imagine going to a spa, asking for a peel and then having the esthetician perform it without gloves? Yikes!
She thinks she said something very smart 🥱
Good point!
omg youre amazing Dr Dray! always learn sth from you
I wouldn’t do anything that’s recommended on TikTok it’s a. Inch of kids telling you things they know nothing about
Happy Tuesday and Happy Valentine’s Day , Dr. Dray ❤💌💖🤍
Same to you!
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Happy Tuesday Dr Dray...see you tomorrow x💙🤩
Well here's another trend I haven't heard of. But I don't watch Tik Tok and it doesn't appear that I'm missing anything. Imagine getting this in your eye! 😲 No thanks. I'll stick to my Albolene and Cerave foaming cleanser. Enjoyed hearing about this. Thanks, as always Dr Dray. Happy Tuesday!! I hope you have a lovely evening. ❤
Funny to watch this exactly 1 year after it was posted, just coincidentally because I was curious about the VT Reedle Shot everyone is talking about lately! Based on what was laid out in this video, it doesn't sound like Dr Dray's opinion on spicules will have shifted since then. Although I did hear that VT released some testing and safety data alongside the product, so I wonder if any reassurances are to be found there.
Thank you Dr.Dray! I don’t watch TikTok so thanks for keeping me in the loop. I couldn’t make it yesterday at noon so watched later. I loved your Costco video, you are hilarious and I learned so much! Thank you 💙💙💙Happy Valentine’s Day ❤️
Thanks for watching
@Andrea Ferri essseaaseaeraassaeéeeeeéaeeeaeeaeaásrssseesasaeeeeeeesee
Same…I do not use any social media platform. UA-camrs like Dr. Dray reacting to and refuting the trends on those platforms is how I know what happening and makes me happy about my decision to stay away from them. 😂
Amazing knowledge! Thank you for further educating us. Have a great day/evening! 😊
Interestingly enough I had this done last month at a spa that’s distributing this new spicules treatment (or biomicroneedling, as they like to call it) to estheticians.
For anyone wondering how it feels, I can compare the feeling with fiberglass.
The process was very short, soon after I was left with reddish skin, the next day I still could feel the spicules and a little itchiness while I touched my skin. The third day through fourth day I was peeling.
Fifth day I had baby soft skin, I saw some improvement in fine lines, overall glow, not much else. I should mention I have resilient skin, I’m 25 and have no major skin concerns.
So… this is still very new but wanted to share.
Spicule therapy has been around for quite a while. I’ve had 11 treatments of the Storyderm Princess Peel, performed by a license esthetician. Each treatment is done 6-8 weeks apart. I have ice pick acne scars and it has softened their appearance, but has not gotten rid of them completely. I don’t find the spicules painful at all. To me, it feels like when your arm goes to sleep and it tingles when it “wakes up.”
The most important thing is that you cannot be allergic to shellfish in order to have this done. You have to stop use of all active ingredients (vitamin C, retinoids, acids, etc.) 7 days prior to treatment and 7 days after. After treatment, you cannot get the treatment area wet, hot, sweaty or exposed to steam for 24 hours. Otherwise you’ll disrupt the spicules. So, basically no shower, intense activity or direct exposure to sun for 24 hours.
Overall, I enjoyed the results and would definitely do it again. The Princess Peel is the mid-tier Storyderm treatment. The highest level is called Time Machine. It can only be done in the winter months, but I haven’t made the leap to that level yet.
Having said all of that, this is NOT a procedure that should be done by someone who is uneducated and inexperienced in spicule therapy. Each treatment takes approximately 2 hours to perform because it’s not just a matter of putting spicules on your face and rubbing them in. There’s pre and post care that needs to be done. It’s unfortunate that there are people on TikTok trending spicule therapy, but not telling the whole story of how it needs to be done, how often, and the pre/post care. There’s a reason that it’s meant for license professionals to perform.
This was an extremely interesting and informative video. Thank you!
Literally saw a Tiktok of someone who accidentally scratched her hand on some coral/sponge. Her hand was as you described, blisters, pus and inflammation 😶
Uhm... no. Just hearing about this technique makes my sensitive skin itch. Hard pass! Thanks as always for the intel, Dr. Dray. And Happy Valentine's Day!!!
Andrea, u r too bloody funny. U kill me. I'm laughing so hard about the long word comment. About clean beauty, and spicule up. Ur great. I needed that.
I'm just thinking about people at home using this over skin with active breakouts 😬 plus if I were to do any sort of microneedling not only would I want it to be done by a health professional, but personally I like the idea of having the needles come right back _out_ of my skin
Goodness me, these TikTok trends are getting ridiculous. I hope these Tiktokers would research and think twice first before posting something 🤦🏻♀️ thanks for shedding light Dr. Dray. Hoping you get more subscribers ❤ happy hearts’ day! ❤❤❤
Seems like a great way to introduce germs and bacteria into the skin.
Happy Valentine's Day. Love the sweater.
need an update on this one with the VT Reedle shot
Hi Dr Dray🌻you look amazing today. Have a wonderful day & All here watching🦋🌷
Thanks!
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You are beautiful as ever Dr Dray.
Great video as usual
Biologique Recherche actually has a had a toner/serum type called MC110 for years and the primary ingredient is sponge extract which acts on a microscopic level like microneedling and basically initiates minute a very low level type of inflammation which stimulates the production of collagen and elastin. P50V also has this ingredient. It's actually quite ingenious since it also oxygenates the skin and stimulates microcirculation.
wow! almost 2 million subs! That's amazing.
Thanks for your support
Dr. Dray, Avene has a new product. It's called RetrinaAL Ceramic Lipid-Replenishing Balm with bakuchiol, niaciamides, and ceramides. Would you be able to look at it? Thank you!
Awesome electronic microscopy pics!
Happy Valentine's day to my favorite UA-camr!!!💗
You too!!
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Happy Tuesday!! Have an Amazing Day and Week!!🖐🤗
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Happy Valentine's Day! Interesting topic!
Same to you!
Great, now humans are going to destroy the sponge population.
Could you update us on this topic as VT reedle shot seems to be really popular rn? At first I got excited about it but now I have a lot of questions about this product.
What about VT Reedle 100?
Dr. Dray you look so CHIC!
Sponge spicules have been around a very, very long time. They were first used in Europe to treat acne, but have been perfected in various skincare treatments in Korea and other Asian countries. Technically, not an exfoliant (but they do speed up cell turnover), they are designed to infuse the skin with products. Spicules are infused with various products from peptides, Exosomes, GrowthFactors and many other ingredients designed to address certain skin conditions. First and foremost, it is a treatment that should be administered by a professional i.e. trained Esthetician or other skincare professionals.
I'm curious what your thoughts on the vt reedle shot are?
Hi Dr. Dray, when you have time, can you review the hero cosmetic retinol?? That would be so helpful. I also love your videos they are super helpful.
She uses tretinoin so I doubt there would be use of her personally reviewing it. Plus you really can't tell from the ingredients if it's stable and penetrates the skin properly.
Are there any resources discussing the sustainability impacts of this type of sponge harvesting for cosmetic treatments? I'm not a marine biologist by any means and i don't know anything frankly about ocean sponges, but with how much degradation to ocean ecosystems there is globally I get nervous any time something related to harvesting ocean wildlife for cosmetics comes up. The science you discussed in here is interesting for sure with respect to utility in skin treatments, but i would hope that some part of this research is taking into consideration preservation of the ecosystems they're sourcing these sponges from
17:18 😅😂 what a slippery slope we go down
Happy valentine's day Dr.Dray. Also, I have sth to ask. Recently, some of my friends (near 30) started using NMN supplement in 18000mg (daily or weekly? How do you think about NMN? Thank you in advance
Just bought spicules to do a peel. Can’t wait. Trying exosomes next!!
I can't even be on TikTok. I feel I lose brain cells when I have been on there.
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Hi dr Dray, it's been a year since this video. Thank you for everything you do
hey Dr Dray!! would love to hear the science and your thoughts on Nutrafol Shampoo and Conditioner❤❤
I was looking at some of their items. It has horrible reviews on Sephora. While they sound excellent, the reviews changed my mind
Okay enough internet for today😂😂 These trends seriously get out of hand very quickly😅
Thanks for watching
What did you say? What was this video about? I was distracted by how absolutely beautiful and glowing your skin is. Have you told us recently what your winning combo is?
Fascinating subject. I think there are other ways to enhance absorption without risking silica granulomas, even if a low risk. 😮
Thank you
Hello DrDray! 🌻 What I really don't understand, is HOW these spicules get OUT of the skin after applying them??? 🙁
good question
That was my question!! No no no.
perhaps they’re pushed upwards by the layers of skin from the stratum basale towards the epidermis desquamates over and sloughs off with the dead cells ?
"As the dead cells fall off, spicules naturally drain out of the skin within 24 hours." - From TIAM (Korean brand) website.
Oh, your skin always looked great, but is looking better than ever lately! What have you been using?! I am curious 😀
In her weekend vlogs she lists in the description box what she's currently using
@@Marieee180 Yess, but sometimes if she is testing something to be reviewed she will not show it, so I was wondering if it was the case :P
@@lindseycassini1560 ooooh I see, well then that i don't know 👀
Are there any interesting research for future treatments or even cures for chronic skin diseases, such as Rosacea, Perioral Dermatitis, Psoriasis etc? Maybe you can give us some hope? :) Thank you
Love your informative channel.. years ago I got one of those exfoliating micro beads in my eye .. so abrasive 😳😳dr had to get it out... can’t even imagine what one of those spicules would do ... gotta pass !!
that would be horrible in the eye
That was immediately my first thought too. How would you make sure you didn't get it in your eye during the removal process?
what a nasty , painful corneal abrasion that would be! Yikes!
I was given a gift from the white silk androgen partners company and one of the products said spicules on the packaging - I did put a few drops on my face and for a day and a half it did feel like tiny pieces of glass and immediately wanted to research what I had put on my face
What do you think about reedles?
A spicule to me is “ short-lived, relatively small radial jet of gas in the chromosphere or lower corona of the sun.”
One of my favorite acne products actually has these. TIA’M AC Fighting Spot RX Cream
I haven't seen it on TikTok but I have sen some foundation compacts with Spicules in stores in Japan and Japanese UA-camrs using them. Apparently Korea also has foundation compacts with spicules. I haven't looked into it super deeply- but there are some Japanese dermatologists that say that it might be okay to use and then some other that say that it's unsafe. So it's really interesting to watch, but Dr. Dray what do you think about having Spicules in make up to deliver better penetration of the "beauty ingredients" in the foundation? Thanks so much for the interesting video :)
Actually I finished watching your video now I'm scared to buy those compacts lol
That would be so terrible to have spicules in foundation because the makeup would go really deep into your skin
Omg.🙄 what a terrible idea to have spicules in makeup. Some people use foundation on their eyelid skin, and under eye. Not to mention that compacts and the sponge applicator harbor bacteria. The skin doesn't know the difference of what's going into the gaps made by the spicules😨!! And you can't even guarantee you get them out every time you cleanse???🤨😒 HARD PASS!!
I've Definitely Never Heard of This Dr. Dray!! This is Not for me for Sure!! Thank You for Bringing this to Our Attention!! Happy Tuesday!! L9ve and Many Blessings Always!!🙏🩷💕🩷🙏
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Happy Valentines Day!
Morning Dr Dray hope u r well n 🖐Hello Every1 n Happy Tuesday/ V Day😀n what a Wonderful Vid…. thanks n This is Gonna b so Interesting🔥👍n Continued Blessings to All💜….
Morning!
Happy Valentines Day Whitney!!
Greetings Terry Berg hope u r well n Happy Tuesday/ V Day😀👍💜💐!!!….
Happy Tuesday my Friend!! Have a Fabulous Day!! Many Blessings Always!!🙏🥰💜💜💜
Happy Tuesday Whitney Brown. Have a lovely day and be well.
In Russia we’ve used it for decades to fade bruises.
Бадяга 😅
Spicules have been used for decades in Europe, maybe longer. Give the West a little time to catch up.
Wow. People are so gullible. Thank you for addressing this.
😅🤣😂 the egg comment made my day
1 year later and there is still a lack of research on spicules but products with them continously gets hyped
19:56 I spit out my water! That was hysterical!😂
Peach & Lily has a brand- eco your skin- product - Meso Ampoule & that has Spicules in it. The customer reviews there are positive. I hope my reply Isn’t deleted this time.
Hey Dr dray I’m adding cerave healing ointment into my routine. Do I only use it at night after tretnoin and moisturizer ?
I believe in videos she's used it on her lips, corners of mouth and on her eyelids before applying her tret. In one of her videos she says you can run into possible irritation by putting active ingredients like tret under occlusion with things petrolatum because it can drive those ingredients deeper and your moisturizer already probably has an occlusive like petrolatum or shea butter in it already. I believe she's also talked about using it for slugging.
happy Tuesday guys ! xo
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Any updates about it? Just bought it and now im concerned
Hi dr dray! Is it possible to tan even if we wear sunscreen( right amount and reapplied)does that mean sunscreen is not protecting well offering enough protection
Yes
Great question! I tan even if wearing sunscreen.
Sunscreen is not a "silver bullet"; but it still needs to be worn every day, if you want to decrease the amount of UV rays damaging your skin. Wearing (and reapplying) sunscreen does this by increasing the amount of time it takes for your skin to tan, freckle, burn, wrinkle and/or aquire skin cancer. Wear at least a 50+ sunscreen and be generous with the amount applied. It's much smarter to wear sunscreen than not to wear sunscreen. Healthy skin heals better than damaged skin. Even days that look cloudy can have high UV levels. So be vigilant wearing (and re-applying) sunscreen...and also use sun protective clothing & accessories. Seek shade whenever/
wherever possible.
It is unrealistic to expect that any sunscreen will last all day. If you stay in the sun all day l, you will still burnt and get damaged...however, it will do so much more if you aren't wearing any sunscreen.
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17:11 omg this but made my laugh so hard
Manufacturers must love TikTok. All that free advertising.
Why are these young pretty girls doing this... they don't need that! Good Lord...
I like your sweater!
Thank you
Do you dry your face with a towel until it's damp and put on a moisturizer??
Or
You don't even use a towel and directly put on a moisturizer??
Some derms do and she has said you can pat your face dry so it's not dripping but still damp. In her videos, where she's demonstrating her routines she's said she moisturizes after stepping out of the shower and by the time it comes to her face, it's not as wet but damp.
Not on TikTok and don't feel I'm missing anything. Noticing the people presenting these ideas seem young and probably not very knowledgeable or educated in skin care. No interest in following them but always enjoy your updates on crazy new trends that surface.
"Tik Tok you don't stop" LOL
Leave the sponges in the sea! 🐠
i used the VT reedle shot 100 only once and feel it is making bumps on my skin. maybe i am very concerned by it and getting paranoid lol
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Hi dr. Dray i've a problem with dandruff so i went to buy an anti dandruff shamboo which it's active ingredient is zinc pyrithione but i found that this ingredient have been banned and replaced with piroctone olamine so what do you think and it helps with seborrheic dermatitis or not?
Data are pretty limited
Well glad you got answer! Still see shampoo with zinc pyrithion where I live in the US. I have seb derm and I use a shampoo called Nizoral. It works very well for me. Others have liked it also. It has an ingredient called “ ketoconazole” which has been around a long time and proven to help dandruff & seb derm. It is a little more expensive, but worth it to me when I need to use.. I think it’s best shampoo for Seb derm, but that’s just my opinion.Not familiar with the ingredient you mention. .Maybe give Nizoral a try? Should be in drugstores or you could ask pharmacist if you can’t find. Hope this helps. Nizoral is made by Kramer Labs in Belgium.
Depending on which country you're in, there are shampoos with piroctone olamine like French brands Typology, Vichy, Bioderma and La Roche Posay. There's also Sebamed.
Me looking at the spicules: YEAH NO....I don't want that in my eyes. Only if it's in a very precise medium, maybe like a sticker, similar to microdarts. But we shouldn't be over harvesting sponges and corals. They are already having a hard enough time. I can imagine police munitions adding spicules to pepper gel now for crowd/riot control. Just to make the pain harder to wash off. 😫 I think the should do safety testing on corneas of the eye.
For the neutrogena body oil from Costco you mentioned in yesterday's video, is the fragrance version okay since we are washing it off anyway? I usually buy the fragrance free and didn't know if the sesame scented one at Costco was okay.
Okay, unless you are allergic
"...you're not a pig" 😂😂😂😂❤️