“The British Public Like Banning Things!” Sunak’s Ban On Youngsters Smoking Clears Commons Hurdle
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2024
- Rishi Sunak’s proposal to ban young people from ever being able to legally smoke tobacco has cleared its first Commons hurdle, despite a swathe of Conservative MPs objecting to it in a blow to his authority.
MPs voted 383 to 67, majority 316, to give the Tobacco and Vapes Bill a second reading.
The legislation, seen by the Prime Minister as a key part of his long-term legacy, would make it illegal to sell tobacco products to anyone born after January 1 2009, with the aim of creating a “smoke-free” generation.
It does not criminalise current smokers, but is aimed at preventing the harms caused by smoking, the leading causes of preventable illness and death in the UK.
Conservative MPs were given a free vote on the Bill, meaning those who voted against the Government’s position will not face punishment.
TalkTV’s Jeremy Kyle and Nicola Thorp are joined by Times Radio presenter James Hanson and political commentator Matthew Stadlen.
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How about a ban on telling lies ?
E.g. the lie that UK politicians are Right & Honourable
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Keep up with the subject in mind
That's called perjury
what exactly are they trying to create with all the banning a perfect world we dont smoke drink eat meat say anything that can cause any offence they want robots not people banning makes it go under ground and into the hands of criminals also the people that put dangerous unregulated muck that will do a lot more damage they sell weapons that kill millions all over the world hypocrites sick of hearing what we are all doing to the NHS doctors and nurses are just like the rest of us if people want to do something they will always find a way how can they police all this
That always gets me, they must be amongst the least honourable people in the country, just further evidence of their gross hypocrisy!😩🤷♂️
What about ban food for obese people? This is worst for NHS
100%..........Ban everything.......Humans dont need DIVINE FREE WILL to choose between right and wrong....good v evil at all.....its far too over rated! x
Seed oils..
1. No its not
2. Can you be specific about what you want to ban for everyone under a certain age?
@@jackoh991 Obesity puts you at a higher risk of death than even lifelong smokers, the negative health impacts are astronomical on every part of your body
He never mentioned banning anything
@@jackoh991 Cheep quality cash crop grains, heavily proceeded food items, seed oils?
Puberty blockers for kids ✔
Tobacco for adults 🚫
Understanding what you are commenting on before commenting 🚫
What does this even mean
It means woke crazy parents indoctrination of there kids saying that there kids at anything from 2-14 is trans and the doctors providing puberty blockers , affecting there lives forever; where any normal parent probably only 1% of those kids would have such wishes.
@@twopointedstar Stick to playing video games, little boy.
Yea because tobacco can kill you?
This will make it more attractive to the youth. Politicians are brain dead.
I'm sick of these politicians dictating what we do. Who do they think they are.
me to , if we roll over and except it where will it end ,
Beware of laws that claim to be for your health.
Politicians are now prison wardens imo
How's wishy washy getting on about banning boats
Good point! Rather than attacking the real issues the silly fker is more concerned in taking away the few things that actually make people happy... nationwide shutdown of our boozers is next
All lies for votes that he clearly won't get. He won't turn the boats around and will loose the General Election in record numbers.
Lol
Best comment yet 😂😂😂
And the WHO treaty .
Let’s just ban every thing and sit in a bubble when not at work and then just give all our wages to government so they can live the life they want but we must do what ever they say.
Well said👍
Unelected leaders should not be allowed to bring in new laws. Especially right before he definitely gets voted out.
There is more important things going on right now
I don't think you understand how.our electoral system works
Another freedom taken away
You mean kings and other useless royals ?
I agree with it as it’s a disgusting life shortening addiction that pray on children and makes a very small amount of people very rich, the royal family I believe owned most of the Virginia tobacco, I am just concerned on where they are going to find the tax from that they will be losing.
They always pick the idiots with no sense to do a random street interview
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Utter nonsense
Ban tobacco while giving the smack heads methadone in pharmacy's...
Not comparable though. Methadone is given under strict supervision and is gradually reduced over time with an aim to stopping the addiction
Ban the boats and marches....
Well said
Yea sure thing stop marches then when you want to do it bc ya gov are fking you over you won't be able to idiot
EDL marches?
People so thick they don't realise calling to censor others means censoring themselves.
Marches 😂 wtf have they done to hurt your sensitive self righteous ego
Black Market and criminals will profit highly from this move, absolutely stupid.
Since they put ciggies up to over $60 for 25 in Australia the black market trade has gone through the roof
This shows how stupid those in parliament are. They have zero right to tell adults what to do. This is also completely unworkable.
Ridiculous! Who do they think they are! I don’t smoke, but don’t over reach government. What’s next?
They think they are gods
All the tax money from the sale of cigarettes will need to be made up somewhere else.
How ridiculous is this administration? They do nothing about the drugs epidemic but phew at least they can't smoke
Its mad how spice heads can wander the streets like zombies but god forbid you smoke a fag? Plus banning stuff just takes away people's liberty, they should just tax it more if they want people to stop, the people who continue to smoke would be paying their fare share in tax to cover the cost to the NHS.
People will buy dangerous black market tobacco
As opposed to the 100% safe tobacco sold in shops?
Exactly. People will smoke illegal , probably more dangerous crap.
Yep already doing this due to stupid prices..
I do agree. I was buying those £5 pouches already back when I rolled. The nicotine rush you got was nothing compared to a usual cig first thing in the morning. Was vile.
Then came the chest and back pains. Horrific stuff.
On heated tobacco now, have been for three months. But yes, banning just makes other illicit options more tempting
@@twopointedstarstupid reply. Black market cigarettes can be more dangerous.
They are slowly removing your freedoms. It’s not about kids as kids can’t buy cigarettes now. They will be adults when this affects them. Alcohol has long term problems, what next.
Correct.. If this works, alcohol needs to go next.
Dnt smoke or drink which is vile ban the lot
Alcohol isn't addictive to most users
@@ashleywilson2072 It won’t work. Banning substances never works anywhere
@@jackoh991 funny joke
Will he be banning hard drugs, murder, rape, theft etc as well?
They are banned moron
I understand that there are health implications generated by the act of smoking but ... are there not more presing things to be addressing at this moment in time?
You mean like kids your grandkids and their kids dying of cancers and other preventable diseases?
ferrets
@@rickylocock9068 Well then they should ban all junk food and fatty sugar sweets, seeing as the number one fsvote for all cause mortality
@seanashworth6750 on average the smoker smokes 20 cigarettes a day, the average person who likes junk food isn't eating 20 burgers a day. The two things are completely different
@@rickylocock9068 That's absolutely irrelevant, they could smoke 100 a day., if the number one factor for all cause mortality is obesity, then your argument has no substance..
The ban on drugs creates more issues that it solves the same when they introduced prohibition
Brace yourself for spectacular increases on tax on other products when this comes into force.
I've never smoked, but im not sure about banning cigarettes!!!!! They will turn to something else
Smoker is the minority now. Younger people don’t smoke.
We should ban alcohol next
Then fat people from eating and force feed skinny people and another lock down @@ashleywilson2072
@@Serena_9as long as its a minority we are impacting that's fine. Fill your boots. What other minorities can we go after?
Yes they turn to coffee. Which is safer
How is the government going to claw back the great amount of tax it currently receives from people smoking?
They dont need it now they have big pharma
It is less than 1% of total tax income. I'd say they will manage
Savings in nhs
When people buy from the black market. Uncontrolled untaxed. @@noobztubes
It will defund the NHS
This is ridiculous. Look how well prohibition went. It is unacceptable to prohibit not only my right to consume this product, but business's rights to sell them to adults who pull up in their cars, probably on their way to their jobs or to drop their children off at school.
So you want to legalise crack cocaine?
@@rickylocock9068 ridiculous reply. What do cigarettes have to do with hard drugs. Do you enjoy a drink? Did you down a bottle of Absinthe at the weekend??
That's what Americans say about government plans to limit gun sales.
Yet guns and smoking have the same outcome - eventually, they kill.
@@rickylocock9068
Allow me to demonstrate how illogical and fallacious your reply is:
Do you want freedom of speech? Well, I guess you support the words that come out of the mouths of nazi's.
That's the same train of 'logic' as you must have just used.
Its a stupid idea.Can you imagine someone in their late 20s cant buy cigs but his mate who is 30 can.The most effective tool you can use to stop smoking is more education in schools, counselling and nicotine replacement therapy.There are also millions of places that sell cheap cigs and tobacco under the counter
Wrong arguments.
It's simply not the government's business to decide what I (legally) can eat, drink, smoke, snort or even inject. Full stop.
@@Frank_inSAtotally agree.
Alcohol is the biggest killer in the UK…why not ban that next?
It’s not
A more productive thing to do would be to legalise weed and try to get the public to switch to that, since it’s basically a safer version of alcohol
@@L333gokno thanks.
@@L333gok Weed is totally different, can't smoke it without a few pints, it's proper mongy.
In actual fact dementia is the biggest killer with more than 74,000 deaths. In 2021 20,970 deaths were attributed to alcohol! Seems you need to do a bit more research along with the 14 who liked your post!
You see, you don’t need to fear a dictator working you to death and trampling your freedoms. Democracy has managed to achieve the same aim 😂
We have the right to choose ourselves and not be told by rich people as to what we can or cant do!,
What about freedom of choice? It’s just something else where people are being told what to do. What will it be next year?
Its getting to be like North Korea theres always a good reason to ban something . Anything but getting the economics better is a diversion for the tories . 😮
Example of how this little Russia we’ve become. Warring with countries we’ve no business in and bent political leaders .
1 step at a time.... you will own nothing and be happy
And people support it... Idiots.
Own Goal. Well done Tories.
Next item to ban is alcohol.
After that high sugar drinks such as cola drinks.
Then red meat
The list goes on
Then if course cannot legalise cannabis or any other drugs.
Well done, are you joking
They will banned alcohol cuz muslims dont like to see ppl drinking
@@jonnyblurt no. This is the thin end of the wedge!
@@jonnyblurt Not joking. Being consistent. If smoking is harmful and need to ban it then other harmful things should be banned as well.
There was a talk about legalising cannabis. How can that happen? If it is legalised then there is no consistency in policies
Most high sugar drinks were indirectly taken out by the sugar tax. You're allowed to sell them but it's not lucrative. All the fantas, tangos, sprite, 7up, vanilla coke, pepsi, etc. have been topped up with sweeteners in the UK ever since and it tastes gross. Only regular coke and cherry coke are available with pre sugar tax recipe and you pay extra for that.
All this will do is drive. The cigarette market to the criminals. And everybody else will be picking up the tab for the amount of money.The government will be losing from taxation.
They always find the virtual signalling lot to ask in the street - they're all so happy to have our freedoms removed one by one, absolute 🔔 ends.
never thought they would ban anything thats makes them lots of money as we know money is more important than humans life
Yes, they make lots of money from the taxes - and then spend all of it and more caring for people dying from smoking related diseases.
An individuals health should be an individuals choice. Let's ban cars to stop car crashes next.
Ban politicians from speaking out their arse
Almost everything is banned in the UK these days, yet things that should be sorted such as - cracking on people littering are never sorted. Our towns look like slums.
All my friends who visit from abroad are shocked by how dirty the UK is.
The illegal immigrants won't like this, they are all heavy smokers
So are a lot of Brits
They will. They'll make a fortune smuggling in cigs to sell to kids.
British people are the heaviest smokers out there. You buy the tobacco from the countries where the illegal immigrants are coming from.
@@syndrome5372 😂😂😂😂 Your own trashy estate Chavy crack head parents will buy the kids cigarettes.
@@NanoVisionTv2 My point was, they want to eradicate smoking in England whilst at the same time allowing thousands of heavy smokers in
And just who's going to police this another load of cheap unshaven council security.
How about not soaking tobacco in industrial waste?
It gives you cancer anyway lmao its a carcinogen
Politicians like banning things, not the British public.
Don't worry there won't be much left after the cov d crap
Reading Hansard online will tell you catagorically the names of each M.P. who voted for this.
Next all of his constituents inform him that he will not be voted in as their representative in the next elections.
When theze M.P.s realise they may have to work for a living, they may decide to act on behalf of their constituents.
Where does the lost tax come from because it will come from somewhere
saving in NHS treatment - simples
@@paulurwin1232
Not simples they will get it from somewhere
well we won't have nhs by that time so there's no need to even do this to save lives it's not
This is a personal choice issue. I wonder what will be next.
Lol...and in Germany they legalise Cannabis....UK politicians are soo behind the moon. 😂
Wow, most people will be shocked to find that two-thirds of smokers die, what will happen when it is revealed that regardless of lifestyle or habits or bank balance everyone dies, they may even consider this as a win in the long term as they find it impossible/choose not too to keep other promises and pledges, or just small baby steps towards dictatorship as just one more freedom is taken away.
So dramatic. Imagine comparing dictatorships to wanting to help people improve their health. We all foot the bill for smokers, through NHS bills, operations and billions of pounds worth of avoidable care because people smoke. It’s a public health issue.
@@TC8787-yq7og get a grip yes another interference from government, I can tell you now no one and I mean no one is going to tell me or my family what we can and cannot do, now if you are unable to think for yourself which it seems to be that you are unable to then crack on, I bet you even wore a mask and took the jab like a good little peasant, I don't trust these dictators but you have the right to do what you like and just remember so has everyone else, and if you don't like it tough
@@TC8787-yq7og there is 80% tax on cigarettes to foot the bill for the nhs issues it will cause, so we pay for it ourselves. Alcohol is also a big killer would you be pissed if they banned alcohol?
@@TC8787-yq7ogoh and how do we all foot the bill for smokers??? Do you pay for their tobacco or their cigarettes because I don't, if some don't want to stop smoking that is completely up. To them none of your business as you don't pay for their NHS treatment they pay for their own 🤦♀️ you are so holyer than though approach it's just like you don't pay for people on benefits either or for people that receive a pension they pay into that themselves oh by the way look up Cusite que vue trust
@@TC8787-yq7og I just did?
They'll probably put a ban on laughing in public soon
It must be time to ban the MP's expenses after all of the questionable claims they submit, and whilst we are at it lets ban the subsidised meals, wines, beers and spirits they consume whilst 'working'.
I propose a ban for politicians to enter the House of Commons!!!!
I thought youngsters couldn’t smoke anyway… 🤔 so is this about police enforcing it instead of ignoring them in the streets.. so they just voted on something that’s technically banned anyway🤣
I think they should ban people whose surname starts with S from being Prime Minister.
What about banning our right to breathe!!
Booze next
It's all a waste of money. I'm for it, just don't bitch about your health and finances after which most people do.
So no one can afford food .......and they focus on smoking!
Smoking costs the country £17 Billion a year and they want to ban it. Alcohol cost the country £22 Billion a Year and the want you to drink up. It is illegal to drink under the age of 18 , but there are more children in pubs than adults.
It's actually not illegal to drink under the age of 18 as long as your in a private home.
🤔 Looking around I think mcdonald's does far worse when are we banning being fat 😂
At least it doesn't stink terribly
@@sir7586 creates a lot of unsightly litter people throw our their cars though.
@sir7586 have you worked with properly fat people? I do and it smells live a septic system my the office
@@sir7586 you are joking, right... nothing smells worse than someone bringing a Mc breakfast into the office...except, perhaps, the foul gas they get after eating it.
@@sir7586'Both' McDonalds 'and' smoking stink terrible. If you live near any kind of fast food kitchen you live in it's stink, and the litter their patrons throw everywhere.
Smokers not only stink when they smoke, they stink all the rest of the time too - when they talk to you, when they walk past you, and the smell they leave behind in a toilet is the very worst of all.
They don't sense it at all, because their sense of smell is so blunted, they really have no concept of their personal stench, which is almost as strong as getting a whiff from a local sewer works.
How about a ban on disrespectful behavior?
New business opportunity!
What about a ban on unelected PMs.
I dont smoke, but those that do should be allowed to do so . Its called freedom
How about we ban anyone who is clearly foreign from running this country? Tired of Sunak calling his friends over in boats.
Can we breath?
Ban MPs expenses!!
The way they are portraying this in the news is that "ANYONE born after 2009, it would be illegal for them to smoke, period", so am I right in assuming if I was born in 2009 but decided to take up smoking in 2049, I would be breaking the law?! Or am I missing something? Cause surely if that is the case, it should fall under the HR bills of freedom of choice.... I'm genuinely curious.
You are correct.
Seemingly the way the bill is written, then no, it wont be illegal for anyone to smoke in the future. With this new law the tobacco industry will just slowly die out as less an less young people will voluntarily not take it up at all. It's not illegal now for any under age children to smoke, it's just illegal for them to buy it, along with it being illegal for adults to buy it for them. I honestly don't see this as one of our Nanny state laws, but more of a way to eventually stop tobacco being needed to be imported into Britain over the next 70 or so years.
@@SandyYates sorry, I misquoted what I meant. If someone born in 2010 in 30years time wants to BUY a tobacco product would that be illegal? That's my issue with it, if that's the case.
And for example in 30 years I want to take up smoking, for whatever reason. Even though a sa fully grown adult, I can't buy them.... If someone bought them for me they would be breaking the law.... I don't see how it would work if that's the case.... Making things illegal had never done the world any good, it's just driven it underground and made it un governable, imo.
Theres a turf war in Australia atm over the smoking ban.
What happened to bodily autonomy?
Who are you, who is anybody to tell me or anybody else what I can or cant do with my own body? If I pay my taxes, the action doesnt directly harm anybody else, who are you to make any sort of moral judgement?
So people should have the right to swallow a marble and eat dirt for breakfast?
No one is going to look to the UK politicians to inspire policy especially after seeing the NZ one fail 😂 ban smoking is seen as a waste of time to most people in other countries.
How about a ban on bans?🤔
Who would have believed that someone of Indian extraction could become an expert on all things British, or English.
Strange how he has not picked up the English tradition, of wanting a leader that they had the chance to vote for.
Can't ban knives or the boats
That should stop the boats
Sunak his flagship 🤣😂law on stopping smoking And here is me thinking he was stupid.
It’s not about smoking takes over, it’s about banning things takes over the country. Banning culture.
So adults are now going to be treated differently under the law. How will the equality act affect this. You cannot ban certain groups from doing something others are allowed to do and surely this legislation is unlawful because of that.. what will be next to save people from their own choices.
There is no freedom in any addiction whatsoever.
Wow,thats was so important wasnt it,how about sorting the country out and protect our borders,you must be so bored in westminster like children what can we piss the public off with today,how about sort the nhs schools pot holes anything usefull ,
Thats terrible thing to say how dare you speak logically 😂😂
What a waste of time and energy - banning something hardly anyone does. There must be better things than this the Government can do to help the country and grab headlines, how about sorting out the Post Office and giving compensation to those who are supposed to get it rather than wasting time with something as pointless as this.
Who said they are doing it for us??? You are right, I bet smoking has gone down drastically every year so what benefit would our government have? When it comes to these people, you find money is always the answer.
Should be banning youths from pitching items from shops, doing nothing about it.
Reactionary viciousness and vindictiveness on full display showing just how NASTY and keen to impose their dictatorial puritanical will on others 🤦♂️
Although I am not a smoker, I totally disagree with this, people should have the right to smoke if they want too.
As a brit myself I actually hate UK politics as they just ban everything, its never the publics choice. I would much rather live in a dangerous freedom.
What else can rishi find to waste our money on why dont they just ban cars the smoke coming out of them is a dam site worse
Did the ban on smoking indoors reduce the financial burden on the NHS? How will the government compensate for the loss of taxes on cigarettes?
Slowly but surely...... you will be a Muslim country
Imagine being able at one time to smoke on a plane???? Present day, alcohol causes more problems at airports than ever
The UK is like a high school boarding school
Us work units are better dying earlier than sit and dribble in a nursery chair? They do not care
10 year olds are vaping these days anyway. Not many kids are smoking.
Why the F is the U.K. government trying to tell us what we can put into our own bodies… Like I get that kids shouldn’t smoke but once you turn 18 you should have to freedom to smoke, drink, vape etc.
When we smoked on plains the air was cleaner in the plain .because of ventilation
How are they going to make up for billions in lost revenue,will the taxpayer be hammered again
Nanny state again when there is more important issues. All this will do is fuel fake tobacco products and give the criminals a new, profitable and gullible market to tap into.. I don’t smoke but what’s next, Cheese Cake! Cheese, Cake !
Ban unelected policy makers from government. Its too late for him anyway, whatever stunted his growth, intellectual, and emotional development wasnt smoking, but had more to do with money and privilege.
We now have a police state 😭 smoking will become much more popular, because the forbidden fruit is always the most popular amongst our youth.. And when they find that people are still dying of cancer, because they allow corporations to pollute with impunity. Will they ban the polluting corporations. Will they ban airplanes, ships and building sites?