Like we said in the video, flipping the fans is pointless because (A) this thing screams and you shouldn't use it anyway, (B) the plastic impedes more airflow than the fans add, (C) attempting to accelerate the exhaust in this manner is only going to make things worse. GN GPU Artifacting shirts are back in stock! store.gamersnexus.net/ Watch our Xbox Series X thermals video here: ua-cam.com/video/Iqv4meZcVEk/v-deo.html Watch our PlayStation 5 thermals video here: ua-cam.com/video/MmggkW6usmQ/v-deo.html Watch our PlayStation & Xbox Schlieren Photography video here: ua-cam.com/video/8FZ3cQFFZmQ/v-deo.html
Reading the Amazon reviews of the one that clips on the back has utterly devastated my faith in being able to look at online customer reviews for anything now.
I wonder how you ever took reviews seriously. They can easily be bots. I've seen ads that say they'll review bomb a site for you, or post hundreds of positive reviews. Actual advertising for this service. Like take 5 minutes to read reviews on the Google Play store. You won't make the mistake of thinking reviews are genuine when you see how many fake ones are *allowed* to be posted. Game companies are *allowed* to (claim they will) reward people for 5 star reviews. And there's thousands that say "I haven't used this product yet but I'm giving it 5 stars." It's beyond a mess.
@@flameshana9 When I go to amazon, I specifically look for the thing I want, otherwise I look for the worst review to remove the false positives. Seems bullet proof to me.
i look for reviews with pictures. these tend to be more accurate. even without fake reviews, the nature of online reviews guarantees they will be inaccurate as mot people only leave a review when they have either an exceptional experience, either positive or negative.
@@flameshana9 Not all reviews are fluff. Just gotta know how to sift though them. I look between reviews with pics as well as bad reviews. You can really weed out the fluff and the morons that don't know what they're doing that way. That and it's easy to skim through an find reviews that actually contain somthing
Only read long reviews that don't just say "yes it's good", simple as that. Always did that and I never had any issues that way. Also, look for actual reviews if possible.
@@finalstrikeosrs i droped consoles and went to pc because of scalpers and the fact that sony is charging 10 extra dollars to buy games on ps5 for no reason
“So, this fan’s around 8500rpm. Not sure what that is in the conversion to rpn..” The world would be a better place without cheap garbage like this that only serves to waste plastic.
Not just plastic. Someone 'engineered' it, made the injection dies, and shipped it halfway around the world from factory to port across the ocean to port to warehouse to retailer. The world would be a better place with fewer idiots.
The idea is good, the execution is garbage. I could probably build something better myself, just with a bunch of fans and a USB cable. Like, buy a couple fans, solder them to the USB cable, put those metal grills on top so you don't cut your fingers, and done. And I have 50mm fans that go 4500 RPM, so it would even be quieter than what they cobbled together.
Thing is that these companies make this crap every console generation. The first time i saw this kind of product being sold was during the Xbox 360 era where it promised to reduce fan noise. I've seen them every console gen since. I just checked and they were also made for the Xbox/PS2/GC era.
"It's not $40 of stuff, and thats what you get" **product falls out of box majestically standing straight up as its not meant to** "nice wow I'd say that was worth $40"
Not really, just don't buy cheap Chinese branded stuff like this. I bought a cooler for my Xbox 360 S that does indeed pull air out of the top vent. Don't support these brands, do research
Your right even if they do work they will kill your console faster because of dust build up I've worked on 3 generations of console's that suffered early demises because of them
I never fail to be impressed by the fact that your channels testing regiments are significantly better than a LOT of industrial companies i've worked at...
My dad was chasing down a truck part fitment issue. He tracked it down to one supplier's parts. When he visited and asked how they did quality checks, they said they used a jig. He asked to see it. They dug it out of a pile of industrial clutter in a corner of the warehouse. Safe to say he found the problem supplier. It's amazing how successful a bad company can be if they low-ball everything.
@jshowa o TF? You are saying companies with the means to own manufacturing plants can’t afford or have the luxury to own a team of R&D professionals to do R&D?
Sony needed to drill holes in both the right and left side panels right where the fan is, that would give better airflow and lower the temp, just like when they are removed in the test
As a Mom that just buys for her sons & relies on reviews because this stuff to me is like makeup to men, I thank you because I was just ready to buy one of these products…
MKBHD also had a similar product in his custom PS5 video. At least he acknowledged that the cooling fans probably don't do anything and you're basically paying for the USB hub and charging ports.
@@homeboi9794 well, if its not doing anything its not much of an issue, who cares. But if its impeding the exhaust it can cause issues in the long term
Probably they are on the opposite side of the "Right to repair" and for the sake of our "safety", you can't disassemble this shit without destroying it to some degree.
@@hollenhammer By decreasing the pressure it might enable the fans inside to go faster, although it is less likely because it's not, like, an axially-aligned pair.
Fan developers must have listened because I just saw one online that fixed most of your issues with that rear fan : fans blowing in the right direction, open design not closed off same volume as original hardware. You should do an updated video of current aftermarket accessories
Treating the PS5 like old dog psychology where it will stop the excrement of heat if you just punish it by shoving it back into its face. That’ll teach it a lesson that hot is bad.
I finally able to buy a ps5 at BB, pick up. at 10:57 am cdt It'll be ready for pickup by feb 26th, Show proof of purchase and ID. $540!!!!! YOU WILL GET ONE. once it's restocks BE QUICK AS FUCK. Unless you want you buy one from ebay fo $1,100 lol
Many years ago I was a supervisor for the videogame department of a Fry's Electronics. These types of devices have HUGE mark up and we were encouraged to sell them due to that reasoning. I always told people, when asked, to not waste their money and they would in fact hinder more than help. By the way, I was the best marchandised area in my store during my time and my margains were the best in the stores history(for the department). Customers appreciate honesty with their pocket book.
I was wondering the same thing. Since it looks like it is pretty easy to switch around. Will actually take some activity on the part of the consumer but it might help? Who knows, probably would still be a waste of money.
While I don't think this product deserves a second video (or even a first video, but here it is) it really bugged me that Steve took the thing apart and removed the fans without putting them back in and testing them, blowing in the correct direction. It was such a major point of contention that's easily reversed that I thought it was obvious that he'd do that, just to show how stupid the design was.
I was hoping that you would show some thermals with the fans flipped around the correct way in the thermal test to see if it even could theoretically work if they hadn't completely messed up their design.
@@littlesnowflakepunk855 wrong. Manufactures want you to suffer. It actually says in the manual to jam it in any old how until it fits, you know its done correctly when the USB head is loose and coming away from the plastic. Misinformation bro is a dangerous game, don't do it again 😤
if they dont, just push your finger against the end. plastic part inside the connector goes on the bottom of the usb, rotate clockwise if its a vertical slot
@@alt5494 I dont wanna argue over such a miniscule thing but that fan isnt a 80 mm fan thats for sure, i had the "pleasure" to replace a few hundred 80mm fant in the past 15-20 years and none of em had that big hub compared to the blades, also if you check the holes for the screws in the corners and than you can see the proportion isnt right, its way to big.
@@vukkzor 80mm fans are measured by the frame because of their use in servers. 80mm is 3.15 inches in the shot the fan is about the same size as Steve's palm. Which in adult males is between 2.75" and 4.25" across. no where near to 40mm (1.57") or 50mm.
My non-pro was way louder than my pro. Some friends had the same issue, some did not. You just couldn't be sure. Maybe replacing the thermal paste or something like that could have helped, but I never tried.
@@hanfred I had a launch Pro, and it got stupidly loud over time. God of war or Warzone put it into meltdown. I reapplied thermal paste, cleared every inch of the console with an air can, didn't help.
"The tesseract ... has awakened. They would wield its power but our ally Steve knows its workings as they never will. The money will be theirs, the heat will be yours. And the gamers, what can they do, but burn?"
I have a similar product for my 5. I never use the fans though. It's has a good metallic base that is way more stable and includes a charger for the controllers, headphone stand, and a remote cradle to make up for everything else.
The thing I can't get over is the fact that this isn't the first time an aftermarket console cooler has put intake fans blowing the wrong way against the consoles exhaust. I remember coolers for the xbox 360 that had the exact same problem.
@@proCaylak i mean, if the fans are actually pulling air out of the exhaust, it could work in theory. Edit; nvm, you mean the base one. I meant the one on the back
They won't, they hinder airflow, same crap as those fans for the Xbox 360 years ago. The fans couldn't even move enough air, and the holes for the fans obstruct even more. So it's best to avoid them.
This has to be the funniest review seen in a while - how about reversing those beautiful snap in tiny fans to see if the product can do anything - like pull more exhaust air out - but like you said there's that much plastic in the way anyhow that whatever potential gain would be negated by physical blockage ...
Fans (like that design) 'pull' not 'push' so the reason the . manufacturer mistakenly put them in, in reverse is because the person tasked with configuring it knew the fans would function far better if they were drawing air through the grill and dispersing it into the adjacent void rather than drawing it from the adjacent void and trying to push it through the grill. You would have better luck, with that type of fan, mounting them on the other side of the case in the reversed orientation.
I had read something about this at some point. What chips/boards are having this issue? I’ve been running an X570 Strix-e gaming, 3900x and an RTX 3080 and haven’t noticed any dropouts.
A SUGGESTION FOR APRIL FOOLS(Attempt № 2): Perform some thermal testing for a very old computer(preferably 80s microcomputer or even an IBM PC compatible) with one twist: pretend that they are some new stuff.
He did, but didn't show in the graphs. He said though that even turning them around is still a worse result than stock because the thing has to little hole area and obstructs airflow.
I know it will be still fail but I want to see you flip the fans around, dremel out or remove the grilling and retest as a best possible scenario test as if they had "done it right".
"Not only does the product produce a similar high pitched siren like screeching sound to that of console wars comment sections..." You had me dying there Steve XD
I was kind of hoping the video would reverse the fan direction and measure the results just to show the difference between the stock device had it been configured correctly.
6:45 they cheaped out so much in the manufacture of this "gadget" that they couldn't spare the cash to put 4 screws per fan compared to 2. A truly marvel of (cheap) engineering!
Mindblowing that they were able to design something that fits to the PS5 but not able to position the fans the right way round (exhaust instead of intake)
You do know flipping the fans, it will change from intake to blower right? Dummbass these days. If flipping a fan around is too hard maybe try licking your ass? Lol
Its heartwarming to know those popup accessory makers have just as hard of a time getting ps5s as we plebs do, since they can't possibly have designed these products if they actually had one
9000RPM? I could be wrong, but industrial cooling fans and low-profile server fans don’t spin that fast, and they’re much more robustly constructed. If those are really spinning at 9000 RPM, you might have a second consumer safety problem at hand.
I'm sure they thought of that but didn't wanna encourage anyone buying the product in any scenario plus I'm willing to bet it still wouldn't of improved the stock PS5 thermals.
I don’t think that would actually change much, sure now it’s blowing the right direction, but there’s also so much plastic in the way for the internal fan that it might still make less air flow outwards. So at best it would perform at stock levels I’d say
Like GN stickied on their comment "Like we said in the video, flipping the fans is pointless because (A) this thing screams and you shouldn't use it anyway, (B) the plastic impedes more airflow than the fans add, (C) attempting to accelerate the exhaust in this manner is only going to make things worse."
Im curious also, but along with flipping them, trim the plastic covering the fans on both sides as much as possible while still being able to keep them mounted the way they are.
I remember buying these for my PS3 and realized how worthless and noisy they were at doing their job. Shame to see the scam still stays strong with the current gen.
I didn’t even realise people attempted to cool their consoles. When I was a console gamer, I never worried about temperature and my console never died. My PS3 is still running all these years later. I’m starting to think that I’m too invested in cooling my PC.
@@mustafam3285 Indeed. Unless you're overclocking, temps don't matter much. 90C CPU temp? It's actually fine: 90C is hot to us, but CPUs aren't human and operating at 90C is within their specifications.
"Indicator" is what we call a turn signal in the UK, so let Patrick know those LEDs are there to tell other gamers which way your console is turning at an intersection
That cant be 9000rpm, most server fans dont spin that fast and they're deafening.. is it possible its counting each fan blade as a revolution? So a 7 blade is actually spinning at ~1300rpm?
Yeah but most server fans aren't 1 inch coolers. These things here are freaking small. Also, I have a 7cm 3d printed cooler that spins at 6500rpm at full speed. 50db, crazy loud. So it's not hard to imagine a 3.5cm cooler spinning at 9k rpm. Still, bloody awful product.
15:11 "... not only does the product produce a similar high-pitched, siren like screeching sound to that of console wars comment sections...." - Nobel Prize in Tech Gaming Literature right there.
I've recently stood my PS5 Horizontally and to my fortunate surprise the modem has always remained cool. I've also found that after I use the modem, I turn it off at the power switch, and put a pillow cover over the modem to protect it from dust. So far it has worked for me!
Like we said in the video, flipping the fans is pointless because (A) this thing screams and you shouldn't use it anyway, (B) the plastic impedes more airflow than the fans add, (C) attempting to accelerate the exhaust in this manner is only going to make things worse.
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Great vid as usual, Steve. Thanks
Have you changed the camera?
Did you try flipping KJH fans so airflow would be right? maybe not much difference, though...
On the back mount cooler, what if you open it and flip the fans around?
You're faith in humanity is misplaced.
"hopefully they're fake reviews"
oh steve, I admire your faith in humanity.
I hate how you're right lmao
@@basshead. By boring you mean peace and happiness I'll definitely be glad if the world had no stupid people, including myself.
@@basshead. right, stupid people are the ones that actually *use* them.
Did you know an IQ of 100 is average? Scary
Well selling reviews is a business of its own. That's why the negative ones have more value to me.
Soon as you said "blows air into basically a solid base" I was sold.
If it works for Apple, it works here as well right?
i still think laser engraving can make holes for those side panel for PS5 and consumer can just slap mesh from the holes
We really need to push the phaseshifting coolers more, i really think they are the future of cooling....
Should have tested these by covering the whole ps5 with a mesh filter. Bet they'd be great then!
WOW.... Blowing air the wrong way. Clearly, a lot of R&D went into this product.
The engineer/janitor must of sneezed and flipped the CAD drawing backwards.
Production manager Dee Viation was quoted as saying: "Ship it anyway!"
@@vablo7198 they just need to flip the fans
It leaves me wondering, are they all put together wrong? Or did some assembly worker just not know what they were doing?
Look at the English on the box. Clearly they didn't.
The fact that both of these were in Austin Evans' "Ultimate PS5" video is hilarious
His video is actually just sarcastically making fun of these accessories though.
Goes to show how downhill his channel has gone
Is Austin Evans just a meme?
@@liu7 It's fun making your console form Voltron
Austin Evans is a hack-fraud shill
Reading the Amazon reviews of the one that clips on the back has utterly devastated my faith in being able to look at online customer reviews for anything now.
I wonder how you ever took reviews seriously. They can easily be bots. I've seen ads that say they'll review bomb a site for you, or post hundreds of positive reviews. Actual advertising for this service.
Like take 5 minutes to read reviews on the Google Play store. You won't make the mistake of thinking reviews are genuine when you see how many fake ones are *allowed* to be posted. Game companies are *allowed* to (claim they will) reward people for 5 star reviews. And there's thousands that say "I haven't used this product yet but I'm giving it 5 stars."
It's beyond a mess.
@@flameshana9 When I go to amazon, I specifically look for the thing I want, otherwise I look for the worst review to remove the false positives. Seems bullet proof to me.
i look for reviews with pictures. these tend to be more accurate. even without fake reviews, the nature of online reviews guarantees they will be inaccurate as mot people only leave a review when they have either an exceptional experience, either positive or negative.
@@flameshana9 Not all reviews are fluff. Just gotta know how to sift though them.
I look between reviews with pics as well as bad reviews. You can really weed out the fluff and the morons that don't know what they're doing that way. That and it's easy to skim through an find reviews that actually contain somthing
Only read long reviews that don't just say "yes it's good", simple as that. Always did that and I never had any issues that way. Also, look for actual reviews if possible.
They claimed it cooled the PS5 and it cools the PS5
They never said it cools the inside of the PS5!
that sounds like malicious compliance
No no no! They said it cools the *P5* and Steve tested it with a *PS5!*
I think this is a case of Garbage in. Garbage out...
Clearly the *P5* blows air the opposite direction as the PS5
With the ps5 off, would it bring it down to room temp faster than natural convection? 🤔
@@blahorgaslisk7763 Maybe Sony made a version for China (or India) called the P5 which has a bottom intake..
“March to the beat of your own drum”
*Blows air the wrong way*
“No not like that”
Please give those fans to Andrew. He can use them with the fan for his Switch.
I see someone remembers!
I don’t understand, please explain.
@@azurai3934 his switch exploded
@@xXSurvivorXx Got it.
@@brandi8907 ... no, it didn't. Why do people make things up?
Waiting for the day when PS5 aftermarket cooling fans start being scalped
I hope not cause if the demand for a cooling system is that high I'd just buy a pc.
Imagine Sony being caught Scalping their own product,
@@paulwood7798 they're already complicit so whats the difference?
Folks should totally make that a thing lol. Scalpers loaded up with a bunch of crap no one wants
@@finalstrikeosrs i droped consoles and went to pc because of scalpers and the fact that sony is charging 10 extra dollars to buy games on ps5 for no reason
“This is not a scam it’s just really stupid” 🤣🤣🤣
“PATENTED PRODUCT: WORTHY OF TRUST!”
My... new... motto...
ochinchin
Scrolled to find my post. I knew someone else had to notice this comedy gold :)
@@KeithZim I was surprised Steve didn’t call it out. Chinese products are always amusing.
im getting it tattood on my butt
@@trith72 pics or it didn't happen
These should be marketed as console warmers 😂
You might be able to use them in texas at the moment as space heaters
@@SortaPredictable You need power in order to do that
Convert your PS5 into a toaster!
@@NQUSTN ouch
They very much did as per the packaging... did.
为了胜利 or 佛大赢
"Don't place into hot water" - so, cold water is fine?
Only if your cold water isn't moist
Yes, the device will promptly heat the cold water for you.
U can use this device to warm your water. 🤡
Gorilla Glue Girl logic
Only cold-washing
“So, this fan’s around 8500rpm. Not sure what that is in the conversion to rpn..”
The world would be a better place without cheap garbage like this that only serves to waste plastic.
Not just plastic. Someone 'engineered' it, made the injection dies, and shipped it halfway around the world from factory to port across the ocean to port to warehouse to retailer.
The world would be a better place with fewer idiots.
The idea is good, the execution is garbage.
I could probably build something better myself, just with a bunch of fans and a USB cable.
Like, buy a couple fans, solder them to the USB cable, put those metal grills on top so you don't cut your fingers, and done. And I have 50mm fans that go 4500 RPM, so it would even be quieter than what they cobbled together.
The fans didn't do anything wrong though!
Thing is that these companies make this crap every console generation. The first time i saw this kind of product being sold was during the Xbox 360 era where it promised to reduce fan noise. I've seen them every console gen since.
I just checked and they were also made for the Xbox/PS2/GC era.
"It's not $40 of stuff, and thats what you get"
**product falls out of box majestically standing straight up as its not meant to**
"nice wow I'd say that was worth $40"
We need more "angry tear downs" by Steve. It is satisfying for Steve to call a product and maker pieces of s*** for an entire video!
yeah rant teardown videos are a LOT of fun haha
He was actually pretty chippy. considering.
This is one of those "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed" videos.
Is why i watch Gamerz Nexus !!. Their team has proven they can be trusted.
@@basshead. so they're Intel shills? How's that any better?
4:40 Now that's what I call honest marketing.
2:21 - how tech jesus does unboxing
10:25 - how linus does unboxing
Bahaha this has been the same since the Xbox 360 days
Not really, just don't buy cheap Chinese branded stuff like this. I bought a cooler for my Xbox 360 S that does indeed pull air out of the top vent. Don't support these brands, do research
Needs more hole technology though.
@@DaysofKnight He was referring to the original xbox 360 cooler not the slim cooler
@@DaysofKnight lol you should do research. None of these after market fans help.
Your right even if they do work they will kill your console faster because of dust build up I've worked on 3 generations of console's that suffered early demises because of them
I never fail to be impressed by the fact that your channels testing regiments are significantly better than a LOT of industrial companies i've worked at...
My dad was chasing down a truck part fitment issue. He tracked it down to one supplier's parts. When he visited and asked how they did quality checks, they said they used a jig. He asked to see it. They dug it out of a pile of industrial clutter in a corner of the warehouse. Safe to say he found the problem supplier.
It's amazing how successful a bad company can be if they low-ball everything.
@jshowa o TF? You are saying companies with the means to own manufacturing plants can’t afford or have the luxury to own a team of R&D professionals to do R&D?
@@katlee8778 time is money. Money rules the world not quality
@@katlee8778 Cut costs when and where you can
@@nullerror4049 and that’s why Steve is trashing their products on UA-cam
Try using both “coolers” together and it would smother itself to death.
Austin Evans already has in his ultimate ps5 video
@@scuffedtech I’ll have to check that out
Nah the ps5 has a thermal shut down mode to prevent damage from over heating.
Sony needed to drill holes in both the right and left side panels right where the fan is, that would give better airflow and lower the temp, just like when they are removed in the test
As a Mom that just buys for her sons & relies on reviews because this stuff to me is like makeup to men, I thank you because I was just ready to buy one of these products…
If u want another baby let me know 😜 jokes aside Ur hot 🔥
“Makes it worse, or in the best case, not better” I think Steve should work in their marketing department
Lol someone should tell austin that. It's parts of his Ultimate PS5 vid
Oh wow, didn't even know he made that video. Yeah, the fans are garbage. Do not buy them. It's unfortunate if anyone did buy them.
MKBHD also had a similar product in his custom PS5 video. At least he acknowledged that the cooling fans probably don't do anything and you're basically paying for the USB hub and charging ports.
@@homeboi9794 well, if its not doing anything its not much of an issue, who cares. But if its impeding the exhaust it can cause issues in the long term
I mean he did mention that the fans are useless and not going to help at all.
If I recall correctly he said they were stupid also did he not?
"Playstation 5 cooling mods are definitely gonna be a HOT topic."
I see what you did there lol
It's not a cooling mod if it says on the box that it heats the console, you know in case you want to play on the south pole with a temp of -50C
Would love to see how the small version would act if you swapped the fans around
Probably they are on the opposite side of the "Right to repair" and for the sake of our "safety", you can't disassemble this shit without destroying it to some degree.
Don't think it would help anyway because of the amount of plastic blocking airflow. Horrid design all over.
surely nothing (at best) if the hot air has already exited the device and is now entering the surplus exhaust
@@hollenhammer By decreasing the pressure it might enable the fans inside to go faster, although it is less likely because it's not, like, an axially-aligned pair.
Fan developers must have listened because I just saw one online that fixed most of your issues with that rear fan : fans blowing in the right direction, open design not closed off same volume as original hardware. You should do an updated video of current aftermarket accessories
Can you give me the referance please ?
Didn't you know the best way to cool is to negate the exhaust with forced intake? Temperature disappears that way! It's the perfect storm.
Treating the PS5 like old dog psychology where it will stop the excrement of heat if you just punish it by shoving it back into its face. That’ll teach it a lesson that hot is bad.
Everybody: Can't get a PS5
Steve: Proceeds to literally smack one around for 20 minutes.
I finally able to buy a ps5 at BB, pick up.
at 10:57 am cdt
It'll be ready for pickup by feb 26th, Show proof of purchase and ID.
$540!!!!!
YOU WILL GET ONE.
once it's restocks
BE QUICK AS FUCK.
Unless you want you buy one from ebay fo $1,100
lol
Better than those cynical channels that just smash PS5's for clicks
It's not a fragile device by any means, not when fully assembled anyway
@Psycho Mantis so is a pc with a 2070 super and one of the fastest SSDs available in the market.
How are these two things related?
That bag of holding is the coolest place in existence by now.
gotta keep that ice-cream cool somehow you know
@@NorroTaku how much for a bag of holding?
I like how the final chapter is just called _"no"_
Many years ago I was a supervisor for the videogame department of a Fry's Electronics. These types of devices have HUGE mark up and we were encouraged to sell them due to that reasoning.
I always told people, when asked, to not waste their money and they would in fact hinder more than help.
By the way, I was the best marchandised area in my store during my time and my margains were the best in the stores history(for the department).
Customers appreciate honesty with their pocket book.
It doesn't work on ps5 because its made for p5
lolol
xd
i lost it at "effectively heat the gaming console" 🤣
I don't understand why you would want to heat your PS5 at 3000 RPNs?
Technically any fan increases the total amount of heat in the system :P
The new generation of consoles are so cool that they need a heating device to warm them up, what a time to be alive.
it's for Extreme overclocking
do you don't get the cold gate!
Thank you for this video....I was about to buy one of these and thought let me look at reviews first...You saved me a heart ache... Your Awesome!!!!
GN's level of complaining is why I comeback. It's so perfect in every way. "It makes just general existence NEAR the device measurably worse..."
Can you try turning around the fans to see if it actually does anything?
Yeeee
i commented that then seem your comment, so i deleted mine.
I was wondering the same thing. Since it looks like it is pretty easy to switch around. Will actually take some activity on the part of the consumer but it might help? Who knows, probably would still be a waste of money.
While I don't think this product deserves a second video (or even a first video, but here it is) it really bugged me that Steve took the thing apart and removed the fans without putting them back in and testing them, blowing in the correct direction. It was such a major point of contention that's easily reversed that I thought it was obvious that he'd do that, just to show how stupid the design was.
I don't think it will help cooling. Since the fans are so small and the fan vents are small
Thank you Steve and GN team for all the hard work and high quality entertainment you provide. Much love from SC!
Thanks! Back atcha!
thank you U/booty yeeter ^^
@@NorroTaku thank you too!
"`...one of the worst products I have intentionally paid for."
Steve, what secret are you keeping from us?
He did buy the AMD mountain bike....
There was the NZXT H1 which literally caught itself on fire...
I've never bought any add-on fans for any of my consoles over the years as none of my console ever needed them.
"That's where the exhaust comes out, *smiles" Lmaoooooo
Somebody did a great job on that clip-on mount, it's a shame about the rest of it.
You could easilly disassemble it and flip the fans
@@zsoltpeterdaniel8413 Would still likely be worse than stock because of how obstructive it is to normal exhaust.
"It doesn't do anything that it claims to do"
Hey that's wrong, it even said it heats up the Playstation :D
Yeah, if you have an issue with your PS5 freezing, here's the fix.
But the one that claimed that actually didn't heat up the PS5 ..... or cool it either .....
I was hoping that you would show some thermals with the fans flipped around the correct way in the thermal test to see if it even could theoretically work if they hadn't completely messed up their design.
I was thinking the same thing, he's already got it apart and they're not even screwed in, take like 3 seconds, 1 per fan!
Yeee
Yeah I was hoping he'd do that, I wanted to see if they'd actually help
This
This
How does Steve manage to put USBs in effortlessly without looking at them? This is evidence enough he is Tech Jesus!
ill tell u a secret:
most usb type b cables have a raised USB logo on the top side
just feel which side has the little logo and put that side on top
@@littlesnowflakepunk855 ah good tip
@@littlesnowflakepunk855 wrong. Manufactures want you to suffer. It actually says in the manual to jam it in any old how until it fits, you know its done correctly when the USB head is loose and coming away from the plastic. Misinformation bro is a dangerous game, don't do it again 😤
if they dont, just push your finger against the end. plastic part inside the connector goes on the bottom of the usb, rotate clockwise if its a vertical slot
@@see-em-ex used 4.4??? Jesus he aint ready for that yet mate
That's an impressive amount of wasted plastic, space, and even air.
"Don't put and heavy object on it"
*including the PS5
😂
P5*
I said the same exact thing.
5:37 “Patent Product. Worthy of Trust”
I completely lost it when you opened that huge cooling base for the it only to have two 80mm 5v fans:-)
Honestly, I doubt they are 5v fans. Based on the RPM, I think they're 12v fans running at 5v
I really doubt that 2 fan is more than 40 or 50 mm, those blades are way to small for a 80 mm fan. You can clearly see that at the 7:30 timestamp
@@vukkzor it's a 80mm fan the large hub is common in cheap fans.
@@alt5494 I dont wanna argue over such a miniscule thing but that fan isnt a 80 mm fan thats for sure, i had the "pleasure" to replace a few hundred 80mm fant in the past 15-20 years and none of em had that big hub compared to the blades, also if you check the holes for the screws in the corners and than you can see the proportion isnt right, its way to big.
@@vukkzor 80mm fans are measured by the frame because of their use in servers. 80mm is 3.15 inches in the shot the fan is about the same size as Steve's palm. Which in adult males is between 2.75" and 4.25" across. no where near to 40mm (1.57") or 50mm.
I'm almost as amazed by the fact that the system runs even that much cooler when you take both side panels off.
“She’s gone from ‘suck’ to ‘blow’ “ lol
Can we have a regular GN section that's just Patrick being quietly sassy about sub-par products?
"far louder than any console is natively"
Launch PS4 PRO: Not so sure about that buddy!
My launch PS4 Pro was fine and I find it hard to believe even the noisy ones could be nearly as bad as launch Xbox 360s.
My non-pro was way louder than my pro. Some friends had the same issue, some did not. You just couldn't be sure. Maybe replacing the thermal paste or something like that could have helped, but I never tried.
my roommates pro sounds like an airport.
@@hanfred I had a launch Pro, and it got stupidly loud over time. God of war or Warzone put it into meltdown. I reapplied thermal paste, cleared every inch of the console with an air can, didn't help.
@@highmm2696 It was a launch model too. Good to know that I didn't open it up for nothing then. ^^
the tesseract is back at it....
"Hype-rdimensionalbeast" Steve
"The tesseract ... has awakened. They would wield its power but our ally Steve knows its workings as they never will. The money will be theirs, the heat will be yours. And the gamers, what can they do, but burn?"
Sad thing is that people actually buy this garbage all while thinking they’re protecting their systems but it’s actually harming them....
I have a similar product for my 5. I never use the fans though. It's has a good metallic base that is way more stable and includes a charger for the controllers, headphone stand, and a remote cradle to make up for everything else.
The thing I can't get over is the fact that this isn't the first time an aftermarket console cooler has put intake fans blowing the wrong way against the consoles exhaust. I remember coolers for the xbox 360 that had the exact same problem.
Nyko Intercooler, all versions XD.
Did you test the "rear-heater" with the fans turned around? I would really like to know if it actually cools the console a bit.
it mostly blocks the exhaust, so I don't think it would help much.
@@proCaylak i mean, if the fans are actually pulling air out of the exhaust, it could work in theory.
Edit; nvm, you mean the base one. I meant the one on the back
I bet it would help a little if it the fan was mounted correctly. To pull hot air out of the console.
I'm surprised he didn't run this test as part of the suite
They won't, they hinder airflow, same crap as those fans for the Xbox 360 years ago. The fans couldn't even move enough air, and the holes for the fans obstruct even more. So it's best to avoid them.
Those warnings basically say: "Don't give it to Linus"
This has to be the funniest review seen in a while - how about reversing those beautiful snap in tiny fans to see if the product can do anything - like pull more exhaust air out - but like you said there's that much plastic in the way anyhow that whatever potential gain would be negated by physical blockage ...
Fans (like that design) 'pull' not 'push' so the reason the . manufacturer mistakenly put them in, in reverse is because the person tasked with configuring it knew the fans would function far better if they were drawing air through the grill and dispersing it into the adjacent void rather than drawing it from the adjacent void and trying to push it through the grill. You would have better luck, with that type of fan, mounting them on the other side of the case in the reversed orientation.
Based on the title alone I’m laughing
Hey Steve, did you see that AMD finally admitted the USB dropouts issue when PCIe 4 is enabled? They made an official post on the AMD subreddit
I had read something about this at some point. What chips/boards are having this issue? I’ve been running an X570 Strix-e gaming, 3900x and an RTX 3080 and haven’t noticed any dropouts.
@@Jpilgrim30 Been running same board and cpu config with a 2080ti for a lil over a year and have never once experienced a usb dropout.
@@d3fct Doesn’t the 2080TI use PCIe 3?
@@d3fct yeah but the 2080 ti isn't PCIe 4.0, it's 3.0 so that's why you don't see the issue.
@@Jpilgrim30 the issue is with boards using the 500 series chipset (b550 and x570) when using a PCIe 4.0 GPU with PCIe 4.0 enabled.
A SUGGESTION FOR APRIL FOOLS(Attempt № 2):
Perform some thermal testing for a very old computer(preferably 80s microcomputer or even an IBM PC compatible) with one twist: pretend that they are some new stuff.
It should be a collaboration with LGR, he is in NC also and has the computers from that era.
@@White-Wolf1969 that would be delight one can get once in a lifetime!
This is the content I didn't know I needed it my life. Thanks Steve
Patrick's comments were friggin HILARIOUS. Delivery on point!👌
Amazon is basically turning into Wish, just with food and groceries
I'm a little surprised that you didn't flip the fans to see if they'd actually work as intended if it weren't for shoddy assembly.
He did, but didn't show in the graphs. He said though that even turning them around is still a worse result than stock because the thing has to little hole area and obstructs airflow.
Maybe if they also cut away the obstructing plastic it might help slightly.
"Patent Product. Worthy Of Trust"
Are you kidding?
...From a certain point of view?
“imperial minutes”
ahhhh Steve. 🤣
0:22 - "Instead they're just sorta stupid." 😂
I know it will be still fail but I want to see you flip the fans around, dremel out or remove the grilling and retest as a best possible scenario test as if they had "done it right".
"Not only does the product produce a similar high pitched siren like screeching sound to that of console wars comment sections..."
You had me dying there Steve XD
"Non-paid" review on Amazon: It sucks and it brows.
I was kind of hoping the video would reverse the fan direction and measure the results just to show the difference between the stock device had it been configured correctly.
would have been negligible since your still using shitty cheap tiny fans
6:45 they cheaped out so much in the manufacture of this "gadget" that they couldn't spare the cash to put 4 screws per fan compared to 2. A truly marvel of (cheap) engineering!
Would've been curious to see what would've happened if you had flipped those fans around.
Yeah, would have been usefull to just see how useless it really is if the fans were in there the right way :D
I thought the same.
Mindblowing that they were able to design something that fits to the PS5 but not able to position the fans the right way round (exhaust instead of intake)
You do know flipping the fans, it will change from intake to blower right? Dummbass these days. If flipping a fan around is too hard maybe try licking your ass? Lol
Its heartwarming to know those popup accessory makers have just as hard of a time getting ps5s as we plebs do, since they can't possibly have designed these products if they actually had one
i love how the final timestamp just reads "No." ^^
9000RPM? I could be wrong, but industrial cooling fans and low-profile server fans don’t spin that fast, and they’re much more robustly constructed. If those are really spinning at 9000 RPM, you might have a second consumer safety problem at hand.
I'm a simple man, i see Steve calling something a scam, i Press like and prepare the popcorn 🍿
turn the fans around on the back "cooler" and see if that does anything.
"NEW DESIGN" --- you can imagine the rest of the commercial
I'm sure they thought of that but didn't wanna encourage anyone buying the product in any scenario plus I'm willing to bet it still wouldn't of improved the stock PS5 thermals.
I don’t think that would actually change much, sure now it’s blowing the right direction, but there’s also so much plastic in the way for the internal fan that it might still make less air flow outwards.
So at best it would perform at stock levels I’d say
Like GN stickied on their comment "Like we said in the video, flipping the fans is pointless because (A) this thing screams and you shouldn't use it anyway, (B) the plastic impedes more airflow than the fans add, (C) attempting to accelerate the exhaust in this manner is only going to make things worse."
Hoooly shit im rolling on the floor when he underlined the word Heat with a screwdriver
Me too, can't make this s... up. It's like the fans stuff the hot air back into the console to keep it warm in the winter.
@@mleise8292 yeah! It needs to stay warm! Otherwise the game will freeze!
@@fie1329 I'm dying!
@@mleise8292 So will your console if you use this product.
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You've got a small typo in your chapters. You wrote: "Fan RPN Measurements", instead of "[...] RPM Measurements".
Thanks for this entertaining video.
Try flipping the fans around! I’m curious to see if it actually works when you flip it around.
Same thought here
Same thought here.
Im curious also, but along with flipping them, trim the plastic covering the fans on both sides as much as possible while still being able to keep them mounted the way they are.
The base of those cheap fans are too wide to actually provide good airflow if it had higher quality fans than your idea would 100% work effectively
I remember buying these for my PS3 and realized how worthless and noisy they were at doing their job. Shame to see the scam still stays strong with the current gen.
look you can tell it's working by how i can't feel hot air coming out of the console any more
I didn’t even realise people attempted to cool their consoles. When I was a console gamer, I never worried about temperature and my console never died. My PS3 is still running all these years later. I’m starting to think that I’m too invested in cooling my PC.
@@mustafam3285 Indeed. Unless you're overclocking, temps don't matter much. 90C CPU temp? It's actually fine: 90C is hot to us, but CPUs aren't human and operating at 90C is within their specifications.
"Indicator" is what we call a turn signal in the UK, so let Patrick know those LEDs are there to tell other gamers which way your console is turning at an intersection
That cant be 9000rpm, most server fans dont spin that fast and they're deafening.. is it possible its counting each fan blade as a revolution? So a 7 blade is actually spinning at ~1300rpm?
Yeah but most server fans aren't 1 inch coolers. These things here are freaking small. Also, I have a 7cm 3d printed cooler that spins at 6500rpm at full speed. 50db, crazy loud.
So it's not hard to imagine a 3.5cm cooler spinning at 9k rpm.
Still, bloody awful product.
Makes sense. Thanks!
"Born for games" Lmao, quote of the year and we only in February.
They also wear out your power supply much faster. They should come with their own power supply.
Ssd's as well need their own power supply.
Honestly even without thermal testing, the explanations alone would convince most people not to buy this
I’m crying . Well I got it wrong. It’s apparantely a heating device !’ 😂😂😂😂
15:11 "... not only does the product produce a similar high-pitched, siren like screeching sound to that of console wars comment sections...." - Nobel Prize in Tech Gaming Literature right there.
Anyone remember these kinds of fans that would destroy the Xbox 360's power port, make them red ring even easier, etc?
I've recently stood my PS5 Horizontally and to my fortunate surprise the modem has always remained cool. I've also found that after I use the modem, I turn it off at the power switch, and put a pillow cover over the modem to protect it from dust. So far it has worked for me!