The worst part is that the whole Warlord system empowered both Blackbeard and Buggy. Buggy would've never made it if it weren't for the WG giving him the Warlord title. Without that title he might've just ended up going back to ID. It also gave him connections which ended up making cross guild possible. And we all know that Cross guild has basically turned Marine hunting into an actual job.
And its abolishment empowered Buggy and Luffy even more. Without the warlord system protection, Boa Hancock will have no other option that asking Luffy for his `protection´. Cross Guild may choose to raid Impel Down again and ask Weevil and Doflamingo to join their ranks. Gecko Moria and Law may join them later although it will be fun seeing their new interactions with Doflamingo
@@MiguelLopez-yc2rh Gecko Moria is either dead or on Blackbeard's crew, Law is clearly on his own. The rest I can definitely see as viable options though, main issue with Weevil is that he's actually retarded (not like in a mean "haha the character's dumb" kind of way, but he exhibits quite a few symptoms of retardation)
I think we've got a bit more context now too. It seems to me the Warlord system was always just a precursor to the Seraphim. A stopgap solution to the balance of power and a way to get their hands on the DNA of powerful pirates. If it meant allowing the likes of Crocodile to get away with stuff for a few years, they probably saw it as worth it in the end once they had their clone army.
@@RealLifeIronMan Timeline's fuzzy. We know Crocodile became a warlord in his mid-20s and he's 46 now. In this theory, the idea would have had to come after the Gorosei met with Vegapunk, which seems to fit in.
@@nightshadesfunkyvids3812 My impression was the WG has had the warlord system since before anyone can remember. The WG needed the warlord system for multiple purposes. In theory it is better to send pirates to fight pirates; if the warlord perishes then no biggie you can always recruit another warlord and no Marine lives were lost. The Marines are relatively weak for a massive military. It also works to disincentive-ise some of the more irritating pirates from causing issues. Of course it didn't work out that way. The fact most all the warlords caused more problems then they solved may have been a significant reason why they got rid of the warlord system.
Crocodile was also only causing problems and Alabasta which the WG problem didn’t like or care much about given its history. Doffy got away with what he did on dressrosa probably because he new the secrets of the celestial dragons. All the other warlords didn’t really cause problems other than just being a regular pirate
Moria was also one of the best ones. He stopped pirates getting to the New World in the Florian Triangle, he was preparing against a fight with Kaido (the job description) and the only one to try in Marineford. Then he’s the only one who got fired despite Boa actively fighting on the other side. Moria better make a comeback once Koby saves him.
@@gustavosauro1882 , he only stole a fodder Marine that trespassed onto his ship, but outside of that he did exactly what a warlord is supposed to do in the contract hence why Sabo, Luffy, and Ace never became warlords in the first place.
From a pragmatical perspective, keeping an eye on the warlords is less dangerous than letting them join the crew of another Yonkou or even becoming one. The abolishment of the warlord system and their replacement with the seraphims will push ex warlords to band together or join another Yonkou crew
Well, of the original 7: -2 tried to usurp countries -1 tried to raise a zombie army (to conquer the world) -1 was a double agent for the Revolutionary Army -1 defected to Luffy’s crew -2 just did their own thing and didn’t listen to orders. Like, that was pretty flawed.
The warlord are so OP in concept, White Beard and his crew could have been easily annihilated in MarineFord if the Warlords had been actually trying to do their part, but no one of them was actually trying to win the war, some of them were even helping Luffy.
This just shows how good Oda is with continuity and smoothing out his story years later, with the newly introduced Seraphim explaining why the WG was so lenient with the warlords.
Like it comes off as genius foreshadowing but it’s not, it’s just really seamless retconning, which Oda does so well that it literally makes him a megamind. He understands his story so well it’s nearly criminal
when will the oda dick riding stop? the existence of the seraphim isn’t anything genius. one piece is the only show where the implementation of clones is praised and seen as genius writing
@@elanadeshina1489 Plenty of stuff people like has clones. And even things people Don't like can have clones that aren't in any way something people complain about. People loved the Clone Wars shows. And as for the Star Wars prequel trilogy, clones weren't why they sucked.
Doflamingo was not a failure as far as the government is concerned. By ruling over Dressrosa, he kept a tribe of criminals (the Tontatta) and a couple of renegades (Kyros and Rebecca) imprisoned).
excellent video dude, I would change the title a little bit, because for me it gave the sense of failures in the meta sense and not the in-universe problems of the system
Rebecca’s gladiator outfit is explorative, that’s the point. It’s insane to claim Oda don’t love his cake and while I may be nuts, that’s not what I’m saying. I am saying that one thing he loves more than fanservice is the story he’s writing and after Doflamingo is exposed and deposed, Rebecca is always shown wearing gowns. That’s deliberate. She’s the princess of the nation lowered to the status of a fighting slave and coliseum rules mandate minimal armor via a weight restriction. This isn’t a justification to retrofit her slinky gladiatorial attire specifically, it’s purpose is to showcase (exploit) the fighters’ physiques and minimize safety for bloodier bouts. Through all this, despite her position, Rebecca fights peacefully, guarding the heart of her nation all the while suffering the jeers and disdain of her people. And she’s at her limit. Non-violence has brought her nothing but heartache, and the power of the mera mera fruit, is too much temptation for her to refuse. So she buys Lucy lunch and attempt to eliminate him. And Lucy being Luffy, knows her heart was in the kindness and never in the betrayal, dedicates his fists to her cause. Later, she finds out the toy soldier who raised her was the father she had forgotten by the witch’s curse gaslighting her entire, can’t help but think of the unkind things she said to him in her ignorance, and her being devastated is an example of the story and her character being poorly written? For being in her feelings when taunted by her mother’s murderer? And I’m the crazy one.
10:25 Japanese's "Guilty until proven innocent" is well known in Japan. They even have a special term for defendant lawyers which refer to them as just sitting there for a lost cause. The justice System is heavily flawed, but that's because Crime rates in Japan are often extremely low and most people acknoledge that the Criminal is mostly guilty when it happens over there. I am unsure if that Was Oda's intent with the Justice system of the marines, but I do like all the difference justices the Marines have through the series.
@@rockonpurification , Mihawk also became a warlord because it helped him stop being a Marine Hunter, and it allowed the World Government someone that’s stronger or equal to Shanks working under their rule.
Also the entire story is predicated on power. Luffy is only able to make a difference because he is strong and the weak are only able to have a voice through Luffy's power to save their kingdoms with the strength that he has that they lack. Notice how the one trait above all else that is framed as a significant and meaningful flaw in Luffy is his lack of strength pre-timeskip and it isn't about Rebecca needing to win fights to have value as a person in the context of the narrative, but rather to give her more of a significant role to justify her existence beyond being a token princess that others have to rescue and defend. Differences can't be made without some form of power and that is an inherent truth regardless of whether or not the story endorses it deliberately or on accident. If Luffy was weak, no differences could be made and literally the only sincere value that he sees in himself is his strength, his ability to fight and protect his friends and loved ones. This is a battle shonen, might makes right, even if the story wants to preach otherwise.
I mean its a shonen at the core man- if you can’t box you can’t be a major player in a show that revolves around fighting. Either way might does make right in the world of one piece. Thats why luffy has gone on record saying in many different ways that his not “the good guy” his just a pirate someone who is strong enough to do what he wants to do.
@@Central739 Shonen can allow for supporting characters to accomplish things without needing to be strong, but it's a flaw in a writer rather than a limitation of the genre. Shonen has very few limits conceptually, so a weak character could accomplish things if the writer had the know how
In shonen there's an implicit value that right makes might as well - that the strength of your convictions and ideals will lead you to victory and prove you right. It's taken for granted so it's not defended in the narrative. Rurouni Kenshin is the one series I remember that questioned This assumption.
Honestly Gecko Moria does more for the government (other than Kuma obviously) than the rest of the warlords combined In a werid way it's almost respectable (he's still an ass though)
Probably seething and crying as he chokes Blackbeard with one hand. Because mathematically he’s stronger than every Yonko and is = to Prime Whitebeard. Either that or Jobbing to Helmepo.
What he's doing right now Showed that he is whitebeards son in heart, defendwd sphinx, got his ass kicked by greenbull, and is possibly about to go to impel down
i think people who complain about rebecca miss the part where shes litterally a slave gladiator meant to die, of course her armor would be lacking all the other slave gladiators are as well, and i think its admirable where in a situation where the country hates her and shes forced to fight she still refuses to kill depite having the skills to do so
Yea i don't know why people always think of physical strength when " strength " is mentionned. You need to be strong to endure what rebecca went through, belmere standing up to arlong for her daughters even though she knows she doesn't stand a chance is strength, nami fighting solo for 10years is strength, Robin surviving alone for 2 decades is strenght, Boa Hancock protecting her people, vivi infiltrating baroque works and literally scream her lungs out for peace, baby 5 search for usefulness, etc. There's countless showcases of strength from female characters and finally accepting that u can't always fight alone is one of the biggest showcase of strength ( nami, sanji, robin ).
The problem is not that rebecca does not fight. Its that she doesn't do anything impressive, or all that important to the story beyond serving as a motivation for others. Comapre her to Shirahoshi, who is extremly similar to her, and yet who's actions and motivations genuinely affects the plot of her arc, has a lot of good moments in said arc, and is likely going to be extremely important to the endgame. The fandom judging rebecca based on her combat proficiency is still completely valid though, because Oda took time out of the story to hype that capacity up, which could, and should have been used for other things, because in the end, she never did anything of note in terms of combat moments. If oda had not hyped her up as a fighter, the fact she wasn't one would not have been a problem. People complain about shirahoshi, but nobody complains one of the character problems is that she never got a fight, and the reason for that is that the narrative never told us that she would do cool things in combat. Rebecca honestly would have been a character if she was written completely as a damsel in distress, rather than as a faux action girl, because in that case she would have done all the things she did in the actual manga, without the letdown of her non existent fighting moments.
One thing that I would want to point out that distinguishes Riku from Rebecca as far as their moralities go, is that Rebecca wanted to fight and was not allowed an opponent to give her a victory in a fight with. I don't think that all female characters need to fight and do all the same things that men do, but her role in the story was superseded by a male character who completed her role on her behalf. And while that character was her father and the pay off of that moment was good for Kyros' character, it forces her to take a backseat in the parts of the story that she has agency in, and it can't be denied that she would have left a stronger positive impression if she actually was allowed to accomplish anything with her own power. The male to female ratio in One Piece is already disproportionate in a lot of areas. There are far more male characters. Far more male characters are relevant. Far more male characters are strong and accomplish things because of that strength. Far more male characters have more unique designs on average and are allowed to have narrative significance alongside whacky designs. We can't treat Rebecca's situation in a vacuum and pretend that the only character she should be compared to is Riku within the same arc, when this is not the first time a female character has been forced into this situation of powerlessness in favor of a male character accomplishing something on their behalf. And while it creates a good narrative for those characters, a female character does not and should not have to be sacrificed for that purpose. Rebecca could have been written to do more and still be largely a pacifist and still accomplish things within the story because there are numerous male examples in the story that prove that supporting characters can do more than just let others fight on their behalf.
Amazing video! Subscribed! Can't wait to check out the rest of your content. Out of interest: now that Vegapunks Warlord replacement has been revealed, do you have any thoughts on it?
I think it’s neat how the Government are creating disposable people with Kuma clones. And it seams like the Seraphim are going to be used to show that clones can have humanity based on Zoro’s interaction with S-Hawk and Jinbe’s with S-Snake. It’s a great way of continuing the themes enies lobby set up with Franky and Robin. Weapons can’t be blamed, only those that wield them. But this time the weapons are people who have their freedoms stripped away. Also Lunarian Warlord Clones are pretty sick bro.
Funny how out of 7 warlords only the fucking robot and the man who by all means should despise the world government the most do there jobs correct, two of them just dick around only obeying orders when they feel like it or are outright obligated, the other 3 go out of there way to basically do the exact opposite of there jobs and just be pirate's with government funding ........who chechked this candidacy and thought "yep these are clearly the best choices for the third pillard of order "
The thing about the warlord system is that it’s a mixed bag really. The primary purpose of the warlord system is to be a check on the yonko, which is why they chose figures like mihawk, croc and Moria who all fought yonko in the past. Another purpose is that it somewhat pacifies possible problems such as the merfolk and Amazons which is why jinbei and Hancock were chosen. Yes it’s a corrupt system since it allows for bad actors such as croc, mingo, and jinbei but overall it performed their purpose in the paramount war. The downside with the government is they very rarely look into what the actors motivations are and do not do reconnaissance on their subjects because being an oppressive fascist government is extremely shortsighted
Garp and Kong are both from the D bloodline, but yet the Marines still allowed them to enter their ranks, so it doesn’t that far fetched for them wanting to recruit Law and Black Beard into the ranks of the Marines.
Yeah Rebecca's "Sexist" Design is not Really Sexist when pretty much everyone in the Arena almost just have less clothing than she is and there's already a reason for such clothing as it was made rule to wear less so they are more vulnerable and easy to draw blood for the Arena.
Hell, the first seven we're introduced to even seem to embody the Seven Deadly Sins. Dracule Mihawk- Pride Sir Crocodile- Greed Donquixote Doflamingo- Wrath Gecko Moria- Sloth Jimbei- Envy Boa Hancock- Lust Bartholomew Kuma- Gluttony
I never even thought of rebecca outfit in the manga, the anime is what makes one piece girls more " fan service " than they are, they make them tits bigger and make it bounce with zoom every now and then😑 it's annoying asf. Also people see what they want to see, if someone sees rebecca as only fan service then maybe that's what he/she wanted to see smh cause there's definitelymore to her character. When u see zoro shirtless, do you think it's fan service ? Some think it is ( girls ), some just see a badass topless swordsman, but let's say if boa Hancock was fighting topless, would you see a badass female or a sex symbol ? Yes you see what u wanna see.
I think people are misrepresenting the Warlord system as a way to create the Seraphim. The Seraphim are only a byproduct. The Warlord system only existed to ensure the World Government has enough manpower to fight the Yonko. Oh, but The Warlords enslave, experiment, torture or kill entire countries... Who cares? The Tenryuubito matter, and nobody else. That's the World Government. That's what needs to survive the Yonko. Oh, but the Warlords don't come when ordered to. Doesn't matter, you don't present yourself when needed, you get your title taken, and another Warlord or the admirals come for your ass. Remember how good Law had it after quitting the Warlords? Fujitora was clapping his ass. Remember Moria? He had to fake his death and lay low for 2 years after getting clapped by Doflamingo. Remember how Mihawk joined Cross Guild just to not get constantly targeted? Nobody likes being bothered that much, even him. "Oh, but Blackbeard got his crew from Impel Down...". Because Luffy organized a prison wide escape with several people inside (Ivan, Mister 2 who sacrificed himself on his own morals) and outside (Boa, another Warlord, who quickly had to leave to not get caught in the cross fire) of the building. What was Blackbeard's plan? Walk in and go straight through Magellan, who quickly defeated Blackbeard's entire crew, and hope everyone in level 6 is on his side after, which Jimbei and Crocodile wouldn't get behind but maybe he could let them get killed while still chained. It was not gonna work! Shiryu was only released because Magellan had his hands full with Luffy and co., and that was the game changer.
I prefer calling them "The 7 Great Privateers". Cus that's what they are ! Pirates working for a government are privateers. Warlord is too vague a term in my opinion.
I thought they put rebecca in the bikini armor to humilate her. Kinda hard to fight when everyones staring at you in your underwear. But she just doesnt care anymore.
Oh come on, you can't justify a misogynistic trope with in-universe reasons - Rebecca is the way she is because a real life man (with a history of sexism) wrote her that way, not because of her life growing up. The author CHOSE to give her that life and that personality and that outfit - he crafted a situation to justify having a grossly misogynistic character. People aren't critiquing her from an in-universe perspective, they're questioning why, in a series already full of misogyny, she was written and drawn that way, come on this is basic stuff 🙄
Still better than some characters in other shonen that only exist for fan service. I never even thought of rebecca outfit in the manga, the anime is what makes one piece girls more " fan service " than they are, they make the tits bigger and make it bounce with zoom every now and then😑 it's annoying asf. Also people see what they want to see, if someone sees rebecca as only fan service then maybe that's what he/she wanted to see smh. When u see zoro shirtless, do you think it's fan service ?
The worst part is that the whole Warlord system empowered both Blackbeard and Buggy.
Buggy would've never made it if it weren't for the WG giving him the Warlord title. Without that title he might've just ended up going back to ID. It also gave him connections which ended up making cross guild possible. And we all know that Cross guild has basically turned Marine hunting into an actual job.
And its abolishment empowered Buggy and Luffy even more.
Without the warlord system protection, Boa Hancock will have no other option that asking Luffy for his `protection´.
Cross Guild may choose to raid Impel Down again and ask Weevil and Doflamingo to join their ranks.
Gecko Moria and Law may join them later although it will be fun seeing their new interactions with Doflamingo
@@MiguelLopez-yc2rh Gecko Moria is either dead or on Blackbeard's crew, Law is clearly on his own. The rest I can definitely see as viable options though, main issue with Weevil is that he's actually retarded (not like in a mean "haha the character's dumb" kind of way, but he exhibits quite a few symptoms of retardation)
The warlord system is kinda like the shnobi system from naruto
@abrar4862 oh fr? What chapter?
@abrar4862 true, but google brought nothing up
I think we've got a bit more context now too. It seems to me the Warlord system was always just a precursor to the Seraphim. A stopgap solution to the balance of power and a way to get their hands on the DNA of powerful pirates. If it meant allowing the likes of Crocodile to get away with stuff for a few years, they probably saw it as worth it in the end once they had their clone army.
How long did the warlord system exist though? 3 years? 30 years? 300 years?
@@RealLifeIronMan Timeline's fuzzy. We know Crocodile became a warlord in his mid-20s and he's 46 now. In this theory, the idea would have had to come after the Gorosei met with Vegapunk, which seems to fit in.
@@nightshadesfunkyvids3812 My impression was the WG has had the warlord system since before anyone can remember. The WG needed the warlord system for multiple purposes. In theory it is better to send pirates to fight pirates; if the warlord perishes then no biggie you can always recruit another warlord and no Marine lives were lost. The Marines are relatively weak for a massive military. It also works to disincentive-ise some of the more irritating pirates from causing issues. Of course it didn't work out that way. The fact most all the warlords caused more problems then they solved may have been a significant reason why they got rid of the warlord system.
@@RealLifeIronMan I find it hard to believe that they implemented the warlord system before the great pirate age and the execution of Gold Roger
Crocodile was also only causing problems and Alabasta which the WG problem didn’t like or care much about given its history. Doffy got away with what he did on dressrosa probably because he new the secrets of the celestial dragons. All the other warlords didn’t really cause problems other than just being a regular pirate
Moria was also one of the best ones. He stopped pirates getting to the New World in the Florian Triangle, he was preparing against a fight with Kaido (the job description) and the only one to try in Marineford. Then he’s the only one who got fired despite Boa actively fighting on the other side. Moria better make a comeback once Koby saves him.
Didn't Moria also steal marines' shadows?
@@gustavosauro1882 , he only stole a fodder Marine that trespassed onto his ship, but outside of that he did exactly what a warlord is supposed to do in the contract hence why Sabo, Luffy, and Ace never became warlords in the first place.
Made me really think on how the WG prioritizes usefulness over loyalty
Like real governments
To be fair the opposite isn’t much better.
@@theintelligentork7470 Yeah you should have a balance.
Everyone does
@@ljpal18 *Did you even read the story bro? Does Luffy not exist to you?*
From a pragmatical perspective, keeping an eye on the warlords is less dangerous than letting them join the crew of another Yonkou or even becoming one.
The abolishment of the warlord system and their replacement with the seraphims will push ex warlords to band together or join another Yonkou crew
Yeah but the seraphims are solid challenges for awakened devil fruit users, not many people are gonna be able to stand up to them.
Did it really stop them though? Doflamingo was pretty clearly associated with Kaido-
Well, of the original 7:
-2 tried to usurp countries
-1 tried to raise a zombie army (to conquer the world)
-1 was a double agent for the Revolutionary Army
-1 defected to Luffy’s crew
-2 just did their own thing and didn’t listen to orders.
Like, that was pretty flawed.
2 allied with Luffy. Boa didn't join Luffy but she supported him and was an accessory to the first breakout in impel downs history
The warlord are so OP in concept, White Beard and his crew could have been easily annihilated in MarineFord if the Warlords had been actually trying to do their part, but no one of them was actually trying to win the war, some of them were even helping Luffy.
This just shows how good Oda is with continuity and smoothing out his story years later, with the newly introduced Seraphim explaining why the WG was so lenient with the warlords.
Like it comes off as genius foreshadowing but it’s not, it’s just really seamless retconning, which Oda does so well that it literally makes him a megamind. He understands his story so well it’s nearly criminal
when will the oda dick riding stop? the existence of the seraphim isn’t anything genius. one piece is the only show where the implementation of clones is praised and seen as genius writing
@@elanadeshina1489 you have no idea what we're talking about 💀
@@fortniteballs57 lmao dude said warlord clones feels like genius foreshadowing you literally cannot make this shit up goofball
@@elanadeshina1489 Plenty of stuff people like has clones.
And even things people Don't like can have clones that aren't in any way something people complain about.
People loved the Clone Wars shows. And as for the Star Wars prequel trilogy, clones weren't why they sucked.
Doflamingo was not a failure as far as the government is concerned. By ruling over Dressrosa, he kept a tribe of criminals (the Tontatta) and a couple of renegades (Kyros and Rebecca) imprisoned).
Kyros and rebecca havent done wrong in the legal sense, they were protecting their country and the tontatta tribe is innocent
@@ong6261 yeah but that's how the wg sees it is it.
To be fair, that's why Fujitora is actually is a good man.
yes he and Aokiji are the best Admirals
excellent video dude, I would change the title a little bit, because for me it gave the sense of failures in the meta sense and not the in-universe problems of the system
The warlord system is like the shnobi system from naruto
I wish Rebecca and Kyros fought Diamante together. Would have been perfect father-daughter bonding.
Rebecca’s gladiator outfit is explorative, that’s the point.
It’s insane to claim Oda don’t love his cake and while I may be nuts, that’s not what I’m saying. I am saying that one thing he loves more than fanservice is the story he’s writing and after Doflamingo is exposed and deposed, Rebecca is always shown wearing gowns.
That’s deliberate.
She’s the princess of the nation lowered to the status of a fighting slave and coliseum rules mandate minimal armor via a weight restriction. This isn’t a justification to retrofit her slinky gladiatorial attire specifically, it’s purpose is to showcase (exploit) the fighters’ physiques and minimize safety for bloodier bouts. Through all this, despite her position, Rebecca fights peacefully, guarding the heart of her nation all the while suffering the jeers and disdain of her people.
And she’s at her limit.
Non-violence has brought her nothing but heartache, and the power of the mera mera fruit, is too much temptation for her to refuse.
So she buys Lucy lunch and attempt to eliminate him. And Lucy being Luffy, knows her heart was in the kindness and never in the betrayal, dedicates his fists to her cause.
Later, she finds out the toy soldier who raised her was the father she had forgotten by the witch’s curse gaslighting her entire, can’t help but think of the unkind things she said to him in her ignorance, and her being devastated is an example of the story and her character being poorly written? For being in her feelings when taunted by her mother’s murderer?
And I’m the crazy one.
I want to see what the Goverment is hidding they feel way too relax after all their mistakes. Like they don't care just see how frustrated Akainu is.
You caught up on the Manga
@@addex1236 atomic bomb it is then.
Great video, you did a great job describing the failures of the world government
10:25 Japanese's "Guilty until proven innocent" is well known in Japan. They even have a special term for defendant lawyers which refer to them as just sitting there for a lost cause. The justice System is heavily flawed, but that's because Crime rates in Japan are often extremely low and most people acknoledge that the Criminal is mostly guilty when it happens over there.
I am unsure if that Was Oda's intent with the Justice system of the marines, but I do like all the difference justices the Marines have through the series.
I don't understand why Mihawk accepted the warlord position in the first place. god! he is so mysterious!!!
He was tired of the Marines keep coming after him because he was a lone wolf with no crew and allies. Otherwise, he would be a 5th Emperor.
@@rockonpurification , Mihawk also became a warlord because it helped him stop being a Marine Hunter, and it allowed the World Government someone that’s stronger or equal to Shanks working under their rule.
He just wanted to be left alone
It's called necessary evil
The excuse anyone justifies their justice while standing on a mountain of corpses
Also the entire story is predicated on power. Luffy is only able to make a difference because he is strong and the weak are only able to have a voice through Luffy's power to save their kingdoms with the strength that he has that they lack. Notice how the one trait above all else that is framed as a significant and meaningful flaw in Luffy is his lack of strength pre-timeskip and it isn't about Rebecca needing to win fights to have value as a person in the context of the narrative, but rather to give her more of a significant role to justify her existence beyond being a token princess that others have to rescue and defend. Differences can't be made without some form of power and that is an inherent truth regardless of whether or not the story endorses it deliberately or on accident. If Luffy was weak, no differences could be made and literally the only sincere value that he sees in himself is his strength, his ability to fight and protect his friends and loved ones. This is a battle shonen, might makes right, even if the story wants to preach otherwise.
I mean its a shonen at the core man- if you can’t box you can’t be a major player in a show that revolves around fighting. Either way might does make right in the world of one piece. Thats why luffy has gone on record saying in many different ways that his not “the good guy” his just a pirate someone who is strong enough to do what he wants to do.
@@Central739 Shonen can allow for supporting characters to accomplish things without needing to be strong, but it's a flaw in a writer rather than a limitation of the genre. Shonen has very few limits conceptually, so a weak character could accomplish things if the writer had the know how
In shonen there's an implicit value that right makes might as well - that the strength of your convictions and ideals will lead you to victory and prove you right. It's taken for granted so it's not defended in the narrative.
Rurouni Kenshin is the one series I remember that questioned This assumption.
@@vaiyt I don't quite understand what you mean by "not defended in the narrative"
@@michaeleanthonyjr it's considered so self evident that the story doesn't treat it as a proposition to be defended. It's just implicitly true.
Honestly Gecko Moria does more for the government (other than Kuma obviously) than the rest of the warlords combined
In a werid way it's almost respectable (he's still an ass though)
1:12 my dude, that’s called a corsair.
I forgot Weevil was even a warlord I wonder what that lug is doing nowadays
Probably seething and crying as he chokes Blackbeard with one hand. Because mathematically he’s stronger than every Yonko and is = to Prime Whitebeard. Either that or Jobbing to Helmepo.
you caught up with the manga rn???
What he's doing right now
Showed that he is whitebeards son in heart, defendwd sphinx, got his ass kicked by greenbull, and is possibly about to go to impel down
Who tf is lug?
He likely became a Warlord to help the government capture and arrest the remnants of the Whitebeard Pirstes.
Aside from Kuma, the only warlords that actually did their job (as far as I'm aware) were Mihawk and Jimbei.
i think people who complain about rebecca miss the part where shes litterally a slave gladiator meant to die, of course her armor would be lacking all the other slave gladiators are as well, and i think its admirable where in a situation where the country hates her and shes forced to fight she still refuses to kill depite having the skills to do so
"of course her armor would be lacking"
Come one bro
What does her being a slave warrior have to do with lack of clothes that's just oda being wired and horny
Yea i don't know why people always think of physical strength when " strength " is mentionned. You need to be strong to endure what rebecca went through, belmere standing up to arlong for her daughters even though she knows she doesn't stand a chance is strength, nami fighting solo for 10years is strength, Robin surviving alone for 2 decades is strenght, Boa Hancock protecting her people, vivi infiltrating baroque works and literally scream her lungs out for peace, baby 5 search for usefulness, etc. There's countless showcases of strength from female characters and finally accepting that u can't always fight alone is one of the biggest showcase of strength ( nami, sanji, robin ).
The problem is not that rebecca does not fight. Its that she doesn't do anything impressive, or all that important to the story beyond serving as a motivation for others. Comapre her to Shirahoshi, who is extremly similar to her, and yet who's actions and motivations genuinely affects the plot of her arc, has a lot of good moments in said arc, and is likely going to be extremely important to the endgame.
The fandom judging rebecca based on her combat proficiency is still completely valid though, because Oda took time out of the story to hype that capacity up, which could, and should have been used for other things, because in the end, she never did anything of note in terms of combat moments. If oda had not hyped her up as a fighter, the fact she wasn't one would not have been a problem.
People complain about shirahoshi, but nobody complains one of the character problems is that she never got a fight, and the reason for that is that the narrative never told us that she would do cool things in combat.
Rebecca honestly would have been a character if she was written completely as a damsel in distress, rather than as a faux action girl, because in that case she would have done all the things she did in the actual manga, without the letdown of her non existent fighting moments.
Great, great video
this breakdown was insane 🔥
So... they arent pirates... they are corsairs... because thats the literal definition of a corsair
Shout out to the Gravity Rush 2 music in the video!
I'm binge watching these videos and I really enjoy the Gravity Rush music in them lol
One thing that I would want to point out that distinguishes Riku from Rebecca as far as their moralities go, is that Rebecca wanted to fight and was not allowed an opponent to give her a victory in a fight with. I don't think that all female characters need to fight and do all the same things that men do, but her role in the story was superseded by a male character who completed her role on her behalf. And while that character was her father and the pay off of that moment was good for Kyros' character, it forces her to take a backseat in the parts of the story that she has agency in, and it can't be denied that she would have left a stronger positive impression if she actually was allowed to accomplish anything with her own power.
The male to female ratio in One Piece is already disproportionate in a lot of areas. There are far more male characters. Far more male characters are relevant. Far more male characters are strong and accomplish things because of that strength. Far more male characters have more unique designs on average and are allowed to have narrative significance alongside whacky designs. We can't treat Rebecca's situation in a vacuum and pretend that the only character she should be compared to is Riku within the same arc, when this is not the first time a female character has been forced into this situation of powerlessness in favor of a male character accomplishing something on their behalf. And while it creates a good narrative for those characters, a female character does not and should not have to be sacrificed for that purpose.
Rebecca could have been written to do more and still be largely a pacifist and still accomplish things within the story because there are numerous male examples in the story that prove that supporting characters can do more than just let others fight on their behalf.
Amazing video! Subscribed! Can't wait to check out the rest of your content.
Out of interest: now that Vegapunks Warlord replacement has been revealed, do you have any thoughts on it?
I think it’s neat how the Government are creating disposable people with Kuma clones. And it seams like the Seraphim are going to be used to show that clones can have humanity based on Zoro’s interaction with S-Hawk and Jinbe’s with S-Snake. It’s a great way of continuing the themes enies lobby set up with Franky and Robin. Weapons can’t be blamed, only those that wield them. But this time the weapons are people who have their freedoms stripped away.
Also Lunarian Warlord Clones are pretty sick bro.
Dude… the thumbnail fucking rocks
the intro and thumbnail are amazing and generaly the video is great
Funny how out of 7 warlords only the fucking robot and the man who by all means should despise the world government the most do there jobs correct, two of them just dick around only obeying orders when they feel like it or are outright obligated, the other 3 go out of there way to basically do the exact opposite of there jobs and just be pirate's with government funding ........who chechked this candidacy and thought "yep these are clearly the best choices for the third pillard of order "
I agree with you, but I'd rather Doflamingo, and Croc be warlords the Kaido and Big Mom. Considering they both have a massive influence.
Where is Jim
The thing about the warlord system is that it’s a mixed bag really. The primary purpose of the warlord system is to be a check on the yonko, which is why they chose figures like mihawk, croc and Moria who all fought yonko in the past.
Another purpose is that it somewhat pacifies possible problems such as the merfolk and Amazons which is why jinbei and Hancock were chosen. Yes it’s a corrupt system since it allows for bad actors such as croc, mingo, and jinbei but overall it performed their purpose in the paramount war. The downside with the government is they very rarely look into what the actors motivations are and do not do reconnaissance on their subjects because being an oppressive fascist government is extremely shortsighted
With Law and Teach I’m like they are from the D bloodline they were dumb to let them in
Garp and Kong are both from the D bloodline, but yet the Marines still allowed them to enter their ranks, so it doesn’t that far fetched for them wanting to recruit Law and Black Beard into the ranks of the Marines.
Yeah Rebecca's "Sexist" Design is not Really Sexist when pretty much everyone in the Arena almost just have less clothing than she is and there's already a reason for such clothing as it was made rule to wear less so they are more vulnerable and easy to draw blood for the Arena.
Wish I would have found this last year.
I don't think it failed.
Think about what trouble cross guild is created.
Its a way to not make them ennemi
Great video
Aww jeez, thanks!
This video is great. Needs an update at some point.
Hell, the first seven we're introduced to even seem to embody the Seven Deadly Sins.
Dracule Mihawk- Pride
Sir Crocodile- Greed
Donquixote Doflamingo- Wrath
Gecko Moria- Sloth
Jimbei- Envy
Boa Hancock- Lust
Bartholomew Kuma- Gluttony
No
This thumbnail is godly
The thumbnail goes hard anybody knows where I can find it ?
Fr, doffy grabbing crocodile with that drippy coat is dope
I never even thought of rebecca outfit in the manga, the anime is what makes one piece girls more " fan service " than they are, they make them tits bigger and make it bounce with zoom every now and then😑 it's annoying asf. Also people see what they want to see, if someone sees rebecca as only fan service then maybe that's what he/she wanted to see smh cause there's definitelymore to her character. When u see zoro shirtless, do you think it's fan service ? Some think it is ( girls ), some just see a badass topless swordsman, but let's say if boa Hancock was fighting topless, would you see a badass female or a sex symbol ? Yes you see what u wanna see.
This is why the World Government is a great analogy for the American Empire
Great vid bro.😺
The WG is an extension of the celestial dragons
Egghead island. That’s all
Been a while since I’ve seen a classic word art title screen
7:21 9:35 9:56 14:56
Where’d you find this version of war?
Yep, exactly: the World Government and the American Empire both behave like this:
“Do as we say but not as we do”
What about the others *_you continue to not talk about_* in your continuous spiels?
No mention of Arlong?
where did you get the thumbnail from?
And that weapon was the seraphim
I think people are misrepresenting the Warlord system as a way to create the Seraphim. The Seraphim are only a byproduct. The Warlord system only existed to ensure the World Government has enough manpower to fight the Yonko.
Oh, but The Warlords enslave, experiment, torture or kill entire countries... Who cares? The Tenryuubito matter, and nobody else. That's the World Government. That's what needs to survive the Yonko.
Oh, but the Warlords don't come when ordered to. Doesn't matter, you don't present yourself when needed, you get your title taken, and another Warlord or the admirals come for your ass.
Remember how good Law had it after quitting the Warlords? Fujitora was clapping his ass.
Remember Moria? He had to fake his death and lay low for 2 years after getting clapped by Doflamingo.
Remember how Mihawk joined Cross Guild just to not get constantly targeted? Nobody likes being bothered that much, even him.
"Oh, but Blackbeard got his crew from Impel Down...". Because Luffy organized a prison wide escape with several people inside (Ivan, Mister 2 who sacrificed himself on his own morals) and outside (Boa, another Warlord, who quickly had to leave to not get caught in the cross fire) of the building.
What was Blackbeard's plan? Walk in and go straight through Magellan, who quickly defeated Blackbeard's entire crew, and hope everyone in level 6 is on his side after, which Jimbei and Crocodile wouldn't get behind but maybe he could let them get killed while still chained. It was not gonna work! Shiryu was only released because Magellan had his hands full with Luffy and co., and that was the game changer.
Fact: Zero warlords can beat Shedinja
False: Blackbeard is a Dark Type with Dark Type Attacks.
@@puffthepirate1528 but he also has zero defense, shedinja can just x scissor
Doffys overheat is fire
And moria is a ghost type
Boa is a rock type
Poseido lives on the sea
What is this laughterstyle fufufu?
LOL
I wonder if ur sexism aligory will hold up with this new lili stuff in the latest chapter.
I prefer calling them "The 7 Great Privateers". Cus that's what they are ! Pirates working for a government are privateers. Warlord is too vague a term in my opinion.
Facts
Lol I remember this song only because of small soldiers 😂
I think pluton is just a nuclear ship
Great video, I enjoyed it. But u should use more cuts to take out inconsistencies in your talking like pauses in the first 5 minutes. Keep it up!
You think the world goverment cares about people. Other then the world nobles.
World nobles are GODS thankyou very much
Getting really sick of anime channels not understanding when creators like Oda reference other comic book characters . Rebecca is Red Sonja
Insanely long intro.
banger video
Is it even correct to say that rebecca's bikini armour is sexist when riku has less chest armour?
I thought they put rebecca in the bikini armor to humilate her. Kinda hard to fight when everyones staring at you in your underwear. But she just doesnt care anymore.
The warlords system is like the shnobi system from naruto
Oh come on, you can't justify a misogynistic trope with in-universe reasons - Rebecca is the way she is because a real life man (with a history of sexism) wrote her that way, not because of her life growing up. The author CHOSE to give her that life and that personality and that outfit - he crafted a situation to justify having a grossly misogynistic character. People aren't critiquing her from an in-universe perspective, they're questioning why, in a series already full of misogyny, she was written and drawn that way, come on this is basic stuff 🙄
Still better than some characters in other shonen that only exist for fan service. I never even thought of rebecca outfit in the manga, the anime is what makes one piece girls more " fan service " than they are, they make the tits bigger and make it bounce with zoom every now and then😑 it's annoying asf. Also people see what they want to see, if someone sees rebecca as only fan service then maybe that's what he/she wanted to see smh. When u see zoro shirtless, do you think it's fan service ?
I think oda just like drawing womens bodies. Not that he is sexist, he shows women being more useful than the men VERY often. He just like titties
You spend 16:45 talking about 1 stuff from 1 manga and you still manage to say nothing.
well...this video didnt age well lol
Purple tiger is old marin member
probably because they were never meant to exist? lmfao
That was the supernova group, the warlords were planned from the beginning
@@user-zz3sn8ky7z no Oda stated the Warlords were never meant to be here. Just Yonkos. You can easily google this homie.
It’s not sexist to put a woman in a bikini lol
The warlord system was created to restrain the navy not to help them fight pirates