How to Wet Sand a Water Mark Leaf Stain Black Paint
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- This is a black E39 M5 that I restored in a full day. However, I decided to work the trunk last because it had water marks and "Bird Poo" stains burned in. (At this point in the job I was completely exhausted but wanted to get it on camera as I've had a bunch of questions about how to remove this type of damage from viewers.) Also, I'm trying to prove a point that a microfiber cutting pad can remove 2500 grit...which is CRAZY! Normally, I would wet-sand the panel to 3000, 4000, and even 5000 before attempting to remove with a microfiber pad. At this point, I'm testing the cutting power of the pad to learn how strong this particular pad was. (Normally, a wool pad would be used for ease and speed in this case) Remember there are 3 levels of water stains. This was level 3 or the worst stage. Level 1 is when you leave the car outside in a quick sun shower (or sprinkler) and it can be wiped off with spray wax. Level 2 is when you need to use spray wax and a clay bar to remove the contaminants. Level 3 is when you have to level the paint (wet sand or compound) to remove the stain. Hope this helps! -L
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This is why I carry a couple of microfibre towels and a bottle of quik detailer in the car at all times.
Matthew Sharpe BINGO. 100% correct. Prevention is key
AMMO NYC Is a micro fiber cutting pad similar to what's called a denim pad?
Fred Garvin no, the denim pads areused to remove orange peel. be cautious they cut fast
+Matthew Sharpe I carry MF towels and glass cleaner heh.. what exactly is quick detailer? is it a wax?
+Sigrafix a quick fix. Often some type of Teflon or something quite like it. It's a kind of wax u use maybe after some trips in the summer when your car isnt dirty but maybe just some dust in it
Larry, you are the man. I'm restoring a black 2008 Tocoma which has NEVER been waxed. The knowledge you've shared have proven to be a God-send for me. My customers say I'm the best, but I've gotta raise the glass to you. Thanks for sharing.
+Sho Nuff Glad I can help and thank you for the kind words!
Sho Nuff I use a magic eraser on it then orbital and complete compound then best of show wax and it leaves they paint wet and deep looking. It's basically fine sand paper just less aggressive.
"For some reason there's one headlight on."
Sums up my experience with E39s.
+Jason Adrian That would actually be a feature of the e39. It's called "Standing Lamps". The turn signal stalk was probably pushed down, which would turn that on.
Oh cool, I didn't realize they had that on the E39. I have an F10 and I love that feature.
No thats the park light, even the back left light was on, he may accidentally turned that on.
+sweet dreams As I said, it's a feature called "Standing Lamps" which turns on the left angel eye and the left tail light if you push the turn signal stalk down. -_-
computiNATEor why you mad we said the same thing, I called it parking light you called it standing lamps so chill, I just didnt read your comment before posting mine.
Dude, can't believe you had the presence of mind to even think about shooting a video after a long day, so big thanks to you Larry. I'm trying to learn more about detailing so I can get my e30 into a less embarrassing state of detail. This helped!
Cutting pads are really amazing. Great leap of technology.
I appreciate you doing it in real time, because I wanted to see the actual speed of the polisher.
Got a cutting pad today and some 3000 grit sandpaper. Worked on a few scratches on the wifes van. All I can say is WOW. It looks fantastic. Thanks for the info!
You are my inspiration for becoming a detailer Larry. I have a buddy whose whole truck needs wet sanding. Might get it done with your tips. Thanks again!
MrStanger, thanks for the advice. Like most things, there is more than one way to accomplish a specific outcome. On black paint, I try to avoid using a wool paint because I dont like to switch to 2 or 3 different machines when I can get it done with 1. I was also testing the cutting power of the microfiber cutting pad to see how much grit it could remove. Thanks again for watching. Stay in touch. -L
The work you do on cars is nothing short of amazing!
True! On my Schwarz black E36 the clear is hard as a rock. Even with the rotary I have a hard time removing 3000 grit. Awesome work! Gotta love the bimmers. Apparently, I found someone as nuts as I hahaha. Have a nice week, Larry.
E74V8 Thanks bud
Man this video seems old school now Larry, amazing how you're technique has changed with new tech. and experience
Watching this video today, having not seen it before, "there's my beautiful truck!" - Larry, you have come so far man. Now you have your dream car. It is truly inspiring!
Let me start by saying wow!!!! That BMW M5 looks fantastic. I have so much appreciation in what you do. I'm an enthusiast and I will tell you that it takes a lot of time so I believe when you say it took you 10 hours. I have a Flex Rotary and I'll tell you.. I wash my car, clay, Polish, sealant, and Wax my car and it takes me like almost 4-5 hours to do all of that..so when I hear you say 10 hours .. Man that takes the cake.. I love the end result. I'm really know thinking about getting the DA.
Totally agree. At the time, 5000 wasn't public yet. I have a few videos coming out where I use the 5000. Very cool. Thanks for watching. -L
That looks like a fucking mirror amazing job
You restored the paint like day 1.
Am I dreaming ?!
Excellent job 🖒
00:29 "I'm completely wasted right now." haha I totally took that the wrong way!
I thought the same thing
Thanks Scott. And Yes I do want to come to Hawaii. You pay the flight, I'll do the detail!!!!
It is a bit soothing to watch this video clip, especially the polishing part :-)! I recognize the bird poo etching problem... It is impressive to see someone that engaged and put those hours getting a perfect finish!
one day my friend you'll be able to afford a lambo the rate your going,many support man,keep up the good work
True
I have my detailing shop , but I will soon start going mobile, so its great to watch Larry`s videos It will surely help me out
This car is so beautiful and you dont see any scratches or rests of the bird poo. This is outstanding! I hope I can prove same skills with you, in one week my first polishing machine will be there!
Keep it going Larry!
Alex
this car is so well polished i can see my self in it !
I saw a big water tank in your van. I would love to see a tour and the stuff that you bring with you when you go to a client. Keep it going! love the vods
you have inspired me, ive waxed my car a million times but now, i detail the piss out of it! thank you so much.
This is great Larry- especially cause I've been having a tough time with the paint on my E39 M5. Regular compounding hasn't been as effective as it seems like it should be, and now I see how the hardness of the paint is affecting my results and need to get a little more aggressive with it. Thanks!
Thank you! Love making them. So fun.
I used 60 grit sand paper, what now?
lol now you can get the customer a new paint job :) pro-star!
@lloyd Christmas quality shine on bare metal that is
😂😂😂👍
Your other two coworkers, Larry and Curly, would probably recommend an 18 molar sulfuric acid rinse before moving onto the sandblasting phase.
amazing video Larry. Great job. That was one of my favourites from you. Very funny as well as really informative. Ridiculous shine on that!
I have the same polisher, and I can say its great for people like me that tend to space out when polishing your car, it won't dig into the paint like a rotary.
Hey, unfortunately you will need some tools to properly correct the paint. However, if you are looking to "cover-up" the swirls, I'd recommend using a hand glaze or thick paint sealant to fill in the scratches. Hope that helps. -L
Dont usually comment on videos. But, Larry, thanks for the videos. Great talents on the cars AND on the video content & presentation, by far you are the best presenter on detailing. Keep up the good work!
this guy is a great teacher; these videos are extremely helpful.
so i think i wasted about 3/4 bottle of compound on one car.. after watching this video you taught me a bit that i completely overlooked in many of other videos i've watched on detailing.
You've made that paint INCREDIBLE!
Going to show it this spring. Cant wait!
I can't believe you have all that sandpaper on that guys BLACK car, moving it around and everything!
always great Larry! a pleasure to watch.
Tomorrow I have an exam (here in spain its 30min to midnight) but I just saw de email telling that you uploaded a new video..... and here I am for 20min, haha.
You rock.
If you ever come to Spain Im so hiring you! (and inviting to a few beers, of coruse! haha).
best videos i've seen on youtube about detailing, you are one of the few hwo really explains it all . thanks and goodluck
Another great video! I learn something from everyone... Never used cutting pads. They seem like they make a huge difference. Now I need to start wet sanding too. I spend way to much time trying to remove scratches with the DA and regular foam pads.
Thank you for doing this video.. you said it in a way that everybody can understand. Appreciate you.
you are a dope detailer! I will be starting to detail cars soon. I've learned so much through watching your videos, but I know a lot of it also comes with experience! I'm starting off with basic wash and interior vacuum and clay/wax. Hoping to learn the more intricate parts of detailing as I grow! You take pride in what you do and that is inspirational!
black paint is pain in the ass to work on. great job larry
Totally agree with Nick. Couldn't have said it better!
You have to use the right products and wash it safely (ie...good methods). Keep adding wax as regularly as possible. Stay in touch
It's obvious that you aren't a lazy dude .....but I am sure you get compensated very well and that helps you ignore the tedious pain of detailing.....thanks for the great video's.
wow the flex on that boot..fantastic contrast to the e34 which was built like a rock.
My car could really use a guy like you, it’s a dark brown metallic (basically black). Beautiful work!
Depends on the car and the condition etc... email me at larry@ammonyc.com
A true professional!!!!!! I love the videos and your attention to detail. No pun intended. Lol!!!! I use these videos as motivation to clean my car. Kinda nuts I know. Keep up the great work.
Joel, it depends on the situation, but I sometimes use #0000 steel wool and a strong cleaner I use to make. I haven't manufactured it in a long time...but I might start making it again. (proceed with caution. this is a tricky technique but highly effective) -L
Hello, Just wanted to say I love your videos, I watch them all the time. I've been detailing cars for quit awhile now, ( not for a living though) I have some odd info to tell you, I would use a gloves when working with polish/ Glaze, within the years of working with these polish compound I have come across some that on the back label say " Do not touch may cause cancer " and actually, I just bought some cutting compound, and it says that on the back label. I can send you a pic if you like. Anyway stay safe. Happy Holidays.
thanks. I always wear black gloves. I ran out that day. I agree though. safety first
I currently have a 2002 LMB E39 that I will be working on. Though on top of the scratch removal, I will be tackling the hundreds of rock chips on the front of the hood. You've given me confidence in my polisher.I'm working with a 7424 non-XP. It's restored a few cars, but I can't seem to get it to cut my BMW paint. Argh!
I love your honesty and openness in the midst of your exhausted misery! ;)
Yes LK, you are insane. But with that said you are the best in the business. Also, at 1:17 in the clip you see the reflection of the house. Looks like they need to take a pressure washer to the siding as well as the detailing job. Super video as always sir!
I know you said you had depth gauged the car but there was no mention of depth gauging this area pre sanding, please do not think I am knocking your skills. You are phenomenal and what you do (with video tut's) is great!.
you scared me a little there .. small scratches but noone will see those .. but i do so i will go back over them again .. PHEW .. professional pride there :D ..you see it, fix it .. freaking love it
U R the God of detailing.
"...some really really small thing in there..." - It's a Mirror! Fantastic!
As somebody already said earlier, I'm really curious about your polishing and cutting compounds. The way you simplifiy using as little products as possible (you have ONE window cleaner, ONE type of wax, and so on) Is really good for the ones that are still learning. Nowadays I use generally Meguiars products but I get kind of lost between all the options to use. So I'm really looking forward for you to show us your compounds and releasing them in your online shop. Channel definitely subscribed.
Flawless man. Ive been following you for the last two months and I've learned alot
I've actually never seen anyone use spray wax on the pad before. Cool idea. May have to try this
I have a final in 40 minutes but yet I can't help but watch because when I'm home I can't wait to detail my car.
Beautiful BMW E39 M5. The beast
WOW the car looks like a mirror, lol. It amazes me that people have so many different methods to get the desired results. I like your method, and I'm doing My Nismo 370Z this weekend for a cars and coffee thing so thanks for the awesome tips
Awesome... Just what Dr. ordered, I will take on this task tomorrows.
I like this style of video. You should make more like these
I have a 530 sport,its not an everyday car i use and spends a lot of time in my garage,thanks for your tips on bringing the car to an amazing finish.........,time for me to do some serious polishing,enjoyed watching your video upload..........keep up the hard work.......and yes its matallic black!
Just forgetting about the sanding the car itself looks absolutely stunning :O
What's funny is that the "rock solid" paint on those E39's is only rock solid until you leave it in the sun, and then it peels like crazy. Here in Arizona it's rare to find a black E39 that doesn't have terrible, peeling clear coat.
Need to find a car with this issue in my area...and I will shoot a video on this topic. Good idea!
Hey Larry, love your work!! So you used a microfibre pad with a DA polisher and compound on black paint and you didn't need to finish it off with a polish? Did you do the whole car that way? Thanks.
Victor: 1 million dollars (said with pinky in the corner of mouth) lol. Price depends on condition, desired results, etc etc. email if u want real numbers. Thx for watching
Yeah Megs. Microfiber cutting pads. I dont use the "MF polishing pad". Thx
You are a star Larry....good job...my z3 has been a pain to polish, I think the paint maybe harder than I thought...cheers
Thanks
That bird is such a troll. Good work
love this video. the real time walk through is great @AMMO NYC
For most cars, you really only need to use a DA. It's the really thick clear coat you would want to use a Rupes or Flex on. (They're like Hybrid DA's) All you would do in this case is just sand the scratch, compound, polish and protect. You probably could even sand and then compound by hand if you wanted and polish by hand, but it is still better to use a DA.
So, yes this would def. work with a DA. Like 99% of detailers use DA's.
Looked like a mirror in the end lol Great work!
GREAT video full of practical advice.
love your videos,from New Zealand...just one question.Do you also wet sand under the door handles or areas where the buffing machine can't go? Or how do you make those inaccessible parts as good as the rest of the polished car?
These videos are VERY educational. I have a suggestion, and I think a lot, a lot of people would love to see it. But, you know how commercials promote their wax to make a DULL, DULL, DULL car that has sat for year look brand new? . . Maybe you could shoot a video like that! I think it would be a wonderful marketing tool for your products, as well as it being educational!
Dude, thats so sick. Really learning stuff here. Keep up the good work! Greetings from Amsterdam
Another awesome video! Love your work Larry! I'm going home to find something to wet sand just for the fun of it :)
Hey, unfortunately...I dont have a miracle answer. It's just a steady Regimen of properly washing and adding layer after layer of Paint Sealant, and that will make it easier to clean. Meaning the dirt is less-likely to stick. But I'm not suggesting you wont get dirt. Kinda like wearing a raincoat in the rain. It protects you to some degree (meaning its better than not wearing one) but you always still seem to get wet no matter what you do. I wish I had a better answer, but its the truth..errrrrr
Yeah the sky has bird poo right there, see it? Right there in the middle of this mirror of the sky! Exactly the video I needed. There's a few deep ones on my car that I just got and this is perfect
A strong car needs a strong paint :) Great job, thanks for the video! keep on filming! greetings from germany!
Great video. I like the way you work and explain things. I have now subscribed.
Excuse my language, but DAMN! that is some shine👍🏽 Thank you for sharing.
Yeah, I will be in Orlando on Jan 16-18 for a meeting.
How fine? You'd have to finish at 2500 or 3000 to have a shot at it. And have a strong compound. but its possible for sure...
Just want to say a HUGE thank you to Larry at Ammo NYC for helping me get over my fear of using sandpaper on my Porsche. Please see how I have done if you get a moment. I used 1500 grit, Meguires Ultimate Compound and Dual Action Harbor Freight polisher. Thank you again!
hey larry im larry...cool I love to detail to I have been doing about 20 some years its always cool to learn more I never think I know it all..im always wanting to learn ..to give the customer the best job ....u have cool tips and ways to do stuff...thanks....
awesome job ! i'm more impressed with the way you hide what compound product you use. You should think about moonlighting as a magician.
Hi Larry when I get Bird lime at work "jaguar" I use a hot air gun to melt the clear coat works every time.
Will do! Thanks for the feedback!
This is why I love black cars when they're spotless like this they look incredible.
P.S. What machine polisher do you use?
hey i love this guy i learned a lot from him god bless you!!!