How to Wet Sand Orange Peel in Car Paint: Porsche 911
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- This is the step by step guide for removing orange peel from your car's paint with my special guest, Jason Rose from Rupes USA. First we use a 1500 grit film disc and then 2000 grit foam backed disc. Afterwards we polished the paint with DA wool and DA Course compound from Rupes, then final polish with Rupes Uno Pure. For protection, we applied AMMO Reflex Pro before driving it back up to Rhode Island to the Audrain Auto Museum. Check out the step by step process for removing orange peel from your paint and decide if its the "right thing to do" on your particular vehicle. Hope this helps you create flat flawless paint in your car's paint! -Larry
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I’ve been watching and learning from you for 4 years now, I’m in college and now I’m going to start my own detailing company this month. Thank you for the inspiration, because of you I’m now very passionate about detailing.
how’s it been
@@frostedcereal8243 looks like he's been playing a bunch of cod instead
@@necessarynarcissism6772 hmm I see
@@necessarynarcissism6772 looks like he’s a racer now
@@necessarynarcissism6772 this made me lol
Detailing is hard work, COD is not lol 😂
Holy smokes the before and after is incredible
Can’t wait to never do this to my car, but still loved watching/learning about the process.
🤣🤣👍
If you use a 5000 or higher grit, it's pretty much dummy proof. Literally try it on any part of car followed by 6k, 7k, or 8k then compound, polish, and finish. It's easy process.
@@kiavaxxaskewI am in the process of doing the same to a Miata project. Starting at 1k, then moving all the way up 10k. Compounding now with 3m perfect. Looks good so far.
@@kiavaxxaskewwhat about going from 1.5k, 2K,3K up to much 5k? I know it’s a lot of work obviously but it’s on my own car. So I don’t mind if I’m over worked.
What does the extra 2/3/4k provide? Just easier access to remove the sanding marks? Or is 1.5k to 2k enough like in this video?
What I don’t want.. is to finish at 2k, use a wool pad and a DA with a cutting compound and it just doesn’t clear or something goes wrong
Dang I was hoping you would remeasure the paints thickness after all that sanding to see how much was removed.
I agree. Makes you wonder how much clear coat was left, if any, after all that sanding.
I agree that would be interesting. But I speculate Larry would not do that, because the loss in overall paint thickness is probably not "that large" - but what you are really interested in would be how much clear coat (in the top layer) is remaining. And I guess there is just no way to tell that, because one will not know, how thick this layer of clear coat was prior to the procedure.
@@RC-ic1co i hope larry read this and bring it up in the new vids
If you wet sand correctly you may lose 5-6um.
Personally I wouldn't ever dry sand with 1500 grit. I've wet sanded some cars and panels in the past and had very similar results to the video using 2500 wet sanding.
I would generally go to 2000 grit as the lowest and then I'd follow up with 3000 grit.
Using 1500 then 2000 and straight to Polishing can leave tiny sanding marks which you aren't getting out with compound and polish.
However as Larry says generally wet sanding is a no no - not really any benefits in the real world. I've only done it to repair poorly re painted panels or as experimentation.
@@PepegaPig buy good brands made for dry sanding only and the diff is tangible...
Jason is a great guest....lots of paint-finishing wisdom. Thanks for the vid.
"This is your walk of shame..." would not even dare to say that to Jason... Larry = Legend!
*I can already see this is going to be another classic that I rewatch over and over again like the 5-layers-of-paint-964 video.* 🌈😊👍
Plot twist: Jason intentionally let rain drip on the 911 so he could satisfy that desire to detail that beauty one last time...
Best Car Channel on UA-cam hands Down
Great to see Jason, Dan and you working on a amazing project. Nick had to love his car
Amazing job ! the green paint looks so much better with the sanding, compounding and polishing, and of course, also with AMMO protection !
i really dont know why i am soo obsessed with this channel
simply put : a beautiful colour restoration on a truly deserving motor, big respect !!
Only thing I can afford to have orange peel on is oranges😭
Not just delicious, but nutritious as well!
Same
@@oc0dyc fþtf
Bazinga
@@oc0dyc wrong
I’ve been detailing for a few years now and I still learn something new from you every day
While I will probably never do a full detail like you do, I absolutely love your content! Thank you for sharing with us!
Larry: Who Moved the Mayonnaise on the left side of the Fridge? It belongs on the right side with the Label facing out!!!
No one I guess
I'm still sus of everyone tho
Wet sanding results are the best! Great job as always!
The word "wow" is all that comes to mind !!! Excellent
One of the better videos explaining the sanding process
If I can ever afford to have a nice car that needs my paint touched up this is the only guy that I would trust to do that
No one cares
@@bitcoochie4093 why are you so angry? Lighten up
You bet he got all the tools.
My guy probably chargers more than most cars are worth 💀
@@bitcoochie4093 bob can’t afford nice cars either
There is nothing better than a new AMMO video!!
Perfect timing as I painted my own car and have the orange peel as you described. The Porsche is even the same color as I painted my car. Crazy.
I’m glad you posted this. I’m about to do a $50 rustoleum roll on paint job and will be sanding the orange peel.
Brilliant video Larry! I just learnt the correct difference between film and foam sanding discs
Your knowledge in detailing still AMAZES me even after I’ve been subbed for awhile!!
Thanks for watching and supporting AMMO!
Another Amazing job by the Absolute Best... AMMO NYC, Larry as always and Jason is an amazing detailer and Even better friend (it would seem) always there for a friend.
Just opened the video but so excited to see it as Audrain is right down the road from me!
So awesome seeing the Audrain museum. I've been there multiple times and visit Newport quite often.
Mill thickness gauge measures the entire paint build, not he clear coat thickness. Got to keep that in mind. It’s also a good practice to tape all edges (burnt many an edge) when buffing. Great video love them.
This is what I don’t understand. If that gauge measures total thickness then how do they know if there will be any clear coat left after sanding?
If they can remove the orange peel then that means that the orange peel is only in the clear coat, right? And they aren’t even sanding green paint ever…just clear?
Just clear coat causes the orange peel
You can measure an open area and then a door jamb to get an idea of how much clear you’re working with. The door jambs will have the least clear so you know you have between that and the total # to work with.
Let’s say it’s 5.5 mils on the car average and 3.2 in the jamb. That means you have 2.3 mills to work with before danger.
Amazing job,, love the result
Proud detailer here in the Philippines 😊
Nice to see Jason back in the videos!
Oh, I enjoy your videos. Thank you and for this weekend I think I will go back to watch some of the videos on the monster collection of cars where you had a few videos made. Those cars were incredible.
amazing job! thanks for the content as always Larry!
I absolutely admire my sensie in wet-sanding Mr. Rose, (one of my idols on the pad 😉), but great video as always as I'm an up and coming pro myself who is passionate about our craft as well so due be on the lookout Larry as you and your channel has helped me immensely God bless SALUTE!!!🔥
This is an excellent video. It's informative, well-structured, and shows the results of their work quite well, I think. Subscribed.
Larry is great knowledge and all around professor but when you add Jason Rose into the mix, your head explodes. Nobody can come close to these two fine Gents. Those two brains in one room could be dangerous and I would love to be there.
That turned out phenomenal.
Outstanding Larry!
Always with love and passions great work guys.
Smooth as silk. Love your content!
What a gorgeous car, that color is unbelievable
EDIT: So awesome to find out about this museum when I've got a trip to Newport coming up. Can't wait to check it out!
Great choice of music. Love your vids keep up the amazing work!
I love that you use some background music with real instruments in a time where most car-related videos feature EDM almost exclusively.
I used to watch the Detail Geek, but I hated that stupid ass music so much
I picked up a few tips, thanks for posting.
Thanks for the content pal; keep it coming.
Thank you for sharing your Knowledge😊
Big fan from Pakistan..... best-detailing channel keep up the good work.
Absolutely gorgeous car!
Larry the kind of detailer to have a Glickenhaus Boot Baja and a Rimac in for detailing. That's just insane.
Great stuff Larry! Beautiful 911 in a great unusual color. I might need to tackle this on my E39 cause I have some etched-in water spots and DA compounding with microfiber and meg 105 isn't doing much :(
I have been waiting for this video for so long
I forgot how good your videos are!
Insane!
I'll say it again, you are M.O. (Microbe Obliterator) from Wall-E. You don't just pay attention to details; details are life!
When I saw Jason I was like JOOOOOOO YOU GOT THE MASTER IN HOUSE??!!!!!!
Awesome class Larry & Jason!!!! Question??? How do I correct those edges without sand them out? Thanks
Great ,,I have been looking at wet sand ,,tool's ,,I use Rupees,,,and am definitely going to go get wet& dry sand pads,,very Helpful 👍...new Zealand..
Hi Ammo, generally speaking do you recommend under carriage coatings? or do you think regular undercarriage cleaning is better? I live in CT so winters can be rough with all the salt. thanks love the content
The measured paint thickness on this car is overstated because it also includes the layers that were painted over.
The part when i heard it was daily driven by the owner, made my day!
Amazing work.I use Rupes products as well, hard to beat.
From their UA-cam videos, it seems like a wonderful museum
Another solid way to determine if your pad is deteriorating is to simply look at the pad. Most high quality pads such as Rupes, 3m actually have vertical or horizontal abrasion patterns. After sanding simply blow off the disc and inspect those patterns to determine how much cutting capability you have left! I used this method also when sanding headlights. You’ll see a noticeable difference in the pads if you regularly inspect them while sanding.
Fantastic job! 🤩
Awesome video, thank you for the info and could not be more true. Don’t wet sand if you don’t need to
hello, great video, I have a few questions
- how many micron do you think the process is removing?
- up to what thickness can the process be carried out? I mean the minimum thickness to which you would say to yourself no, this process cannot otherwise we remove all the varnish?
I WISH MORE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THE DIFINITION OF.....EXCELLENCE!!!!!!
Very great key point of this video is “there are a lot more reasons NOT to sand your car paint then there is.”
That doesn't even mean anything
@@peni80085 it should only be done if your car has plenty of clear coat because if not in a few weeks or months your clear coat might fail and the car will have to be painted again. You should always request for a lot of clear coat layers if you ever get your car painted its worth paying more
I love this channel.
Awesome job!
I do a lot of hand wetsanding on deep rids for my job, leveling fresh paint with a pneumatic DA and man the bodyshop guys love their Makita rotary to attack those sanding marks. Killing my wrists after a year, and they've all had multiple surgeries. My 15mm DA with microfiber cutting pad and Rupes' DA Coarse just isnt enough to attack P2000 sanding marks, but hopefully my new Rupes Mille with their new wool pads will. Absolutely love leveling fresh paint for that perfect mirror finish.
GREETING FROM ARGENTINA I LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS.
Maybe one day you could try out those new denim and velvet pads.
Probably good to compare MRR and time spent.
Either way glad you highlighted the fact that it's better to leave orange peel alone in most cases!
I was wondering where to get those new sprayers and finally able to order two of them. Thanks Mr. Larry!
Thanks for supporting our campaign!
I have watched ratarossa clean his Ferrari looks amazing and I would love to use your product on my 1967 firebird restored thank you and have a great day
Great educational video.
Larry, I think you forgot to put the kickstarter link in the description.
Hello, just a heads up, the link is now in the description!
Great video I'm going to have a go on my car
Larry with paint that thick, how do you know how much is clear coat? Is cutting into the color a major issue? Great content, thank you!
Finally. Was waiting for the porsche
Nice one... i do a lot of sanding on custom paint. 👊🏻
I used denim pad with my DA with heavy cut M105 compound and it worked perfect for orange peel removal. I didnt have to do actual sanding. Finished with regular soft polishing pad with M205 compound
I think its more often used on aftermarket paint, which tends to be thicker and harder? So sanding is faster and safer than oem paint. Correct me if I'm wrong!
@@jordanweaver9658 i performed it on both originally painted surfaces and repainted surfaces. Referring to use of Denim pad, not sanding. Worked well on both, it is much safer to go with denim pad and da machine.
Ammo is the Linus tech tips of the detailing world.
I´m not even into such things. YT, what the hell is with your recommendations?!
And I LOVE this! :) Very interesting and informative.
Suggesting there's a 'ton of paint to work with' based on the paint depth readings on a resprayed car is a bit misleading. Unless you know for a fact that the vehicle you're working on was sanded all the way back to the original substrate before the new paint went down, then it's really just a crap shoot. Sure, you can do your door shut comparisons to get perhaps a bit of insight, but it's still a toss up.
Just thought that was worth mentioning! Great video as usual, Larry.
Looks Badass 🇺🇸
“We need to make sure that the paint is okay!!” My line every time at the shop 😂😂😂
Wonderful car
Larry, what do I have to do for my car to be a "demonstration vehicle?" 😂
Great video as usual, man. Very insightful. Think you might go a little bit more into how to tell how hard a particular paint is?
Rock on!
Is nice watching professional doing this kind of job🤌🤌🤌🤌💯% perfection 😁.
Beautiful car !!
The best to ever do it 👍
Larry were yous only levelling the lacquer if you were to level the base coat would the clear not need removed first? To level the paint as the lacquer is only to add the shine and protection.
Gorgeous car. But I think I’m more in love with Larry garage. I think I can live in there and detail my car everyday haha
That 210 amg in the end🥰
Great video! Results were absolutely fantastic! Where in CT is your shop?
I see your using the pneumatic sander....would you use the LHR15 if you did not have the compressor or the sander on hand? I would love to get to do that but i have not done a complete respray and they do not make cars with enough clear
Very informative thank you very much
Hi, A couple of questions, do you ship to UK, if so whats the average shipping cost ? Also looking to buy my first machine polisher, any recommendations ?
Good thing you did a paint test :P