Three more countries recognize Palestinian statehood - what happens next? | DW Analysis
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Three European countries, Spain, Ireland and Norway, have all decided to recognize Palestinian statehood. The recognition will officially take effect on May 28. Ireland's Prime Minister Simon Harris called it a historic day, while Spain's leader said it was a step towards peace. In response, Israel is now recalling its ambassadors from those countries.
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3:20 Daniel Levy, US/Middle East Project
10:58 Espen Barth Eide, Norwegian Foreign Minister
18:04 Rebecca Ritters and Jack Parrock, DW Correspondents
24:08 Laura Blumenfeld, Middle East Analyst
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Human rights are not negotiable, on any side, so why is DW still questioning this?
It is not s human right.
terrorist rights are however not rights
The discussion in this war is absurd.
First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years.
Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity.
The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.
islam gave to mankind an ideal code of human rights fourteen centuries ago......they have sharia law not Universal Human Rights.
@@geoms6263 Don't try to falsehood about Islam. Even who follows Islam they protect from any kind of sin. Even from HIV.
The value of Israeli baby is the same as the value of the Palestinian baby
No, aren't you all against Israel
True, it’s a seller’s market
Tell that to the Palestinians.
Tell that to Hamas…
Where’s Kfir???!?
how can they say they support a two state solution and not want to recognize palestinian right to self determination ? Germany stays on the wrong side of history.
Previous self determinated government was Hamas
@@jorgeanderson9032 they won through elections
Erm, what happened in November 1947? 🤔
@@Lfgnyc The first two-state solution was rejected.
@@Blodhelm Wrong NetanHitler on record said he scuttled Oslo Pact.
Spain, Ireland and Norway on the right side of history. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Shame on you Germany!!
Germany donates more money to Gaza than Spain , Ireland,and norway combined, 250 million euros,, you heard about putting your money where your mouth is.
True
👍@@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk
Cut us some slack, we have a history you know
@@JG-xi4tuyou would think that history would make them more vigilant of crimes against humanity… and genocide itself. It’s almost as if they didn’t learn from their mistakes.
Hey Deutsche Welle. What happened to your interview with Palestinian lawyer Noura Erekat on this topic? Did you suppress it? Or did you just lose the tape?
a *_RIGHT_* is *_NOT_* a reward!
I want my own country too then, it’s my right apparently
@@datboib3432 Freedom is always fought for never given. We see the fruits.
Israel had nothing to make it state.when it was recognized by newly formed and west dominated UN. But palastine have evrything to make them state.
@@Allahiswiththeoppressed Then why are people trying to GIVE Palestinians a state saying it is a right?
@@Allahiswiththeoppressed israel has been having to fight for their freedom also.
Everybody with half a brain wants a two-state solution , except for the extremes on BOTH sides.
The average Palestinian person just wants to live in peace and have a home & the average Israeli just wants to live in peace and not deal with stuff like this every 10 years or so.
hows that working out for the Kurds?
That title is horrible
Was about to say the same...absorb
Watch France24 instead, much less slant. Germany's history means their state news cannot do balanced coverage on this issue.
But it's correct. They just rewarded terrorism, rioting and violence.
Same.
It's like saying freeing an abuse victim after they finally fought back is rewarding agression
If Palestine was recongnized sooner than October 7th would not have happened
children are not Hamas .. children shdn't be slaughtered for Hamas' crimes .. build a wall. protect your borders better .. the world is mourning with bullied- bombed- &-starved Gaza; do you want this to be a forever thing? Ruling over your neighbor is obscene. 👼🏽👼🏽👶🏽👶🏽👵🏽👵🏽
Did you tell that to Russia?
@@bigboyindhouse8142 Hamas, Hezbollah, and others exist with the active support of the population. You can't really say they aren't tied. I am against military action against civilians, but those civilians need to make sure they are not getting involved through active or passive support. There are few real innocents among the Palestinians.
To be fair, Gaza and the west bank were pretty much left alone for well over a decade. Any hardship there falls squarely on the head of their governments. Previously things were solved with the odd small scale retaliation. They crossed a line on Oct 7. And that was all on their own. They can end this at any time by capitulating and turning themselves in.
hamas started a war on oct 7. hamas says they will do oct 7 over and over again. this could end today if hamas released the hostages and surrendered. blame hamas.
The EU should apply travel bans on all Israeli settlers in East Jerusalem and the Eest Bank.
The East Bank is in Jordan, doofus.
East bank- You mean east of Jordan river which is Jordan. You are right all palastinian/arab in gaza and Judea/Samaria should go to the nation of Jordan.
The EU is part of the apartheid, and the Israelis are European settlers. Fact!
West Bank you mean.
@user-pt6vg7jf6bthat would be great. Europe would a better and prosperous continent with Russia as a friend not a foe
Is this the most devoid of context title you could think off...
what the heck is that title on the banner?! you couldn't finish paying the cost of WW2. Germany made a mistake in that time, and today making another mistake. history will record this one as well 📝
Hamas is a religious far-right organization. You are making the mistake.
@@olafsigursons Armed resistance against brutal occupation is not terrorism. Nelson Mandela did the same and he was called terrorist by the west.
The payments to the allies for WW2 were completed about 20 years ago. That's really done now.
@@olafsigursons While Israel cabinet is a compassionate kumbaya club... :D
@@mstrehena5535Gaza wasn’t occupied on Oct 6th
Recognition of Palestine is an act of justice & humanity, to the indigenous in their occupied land.
Supporting i3roel means: Supporting occupation, apartheid, etnich Cleansing, gen0sid & warcrimes
If Israel can exist, Palestine can, too! :) But not Hamas.
The two-state solution is dead. Palestinians and Hamas are the same.
how about Israel govt?
Israel govt are/were doing something much worse than Ka Mass
and no consequence/justice to them?
@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7misrael actually has a functioning government with a balance of powers.
Hamas is literally just a militant group that seized power almost 20 years ago & refuses to hold elections.
@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m Palestinians people are innocent, right? Ask for food, medical supply and fire rockets for decades?
@@bachhongtran Israel does not have fire rocket?
US does not have fire rocket?
Uk does not have fire rocket?
Germany does not have fire rocket?
Any country that recognizes Palestinian statehood should be aware that the ethnic minority group (s) within its borders might want to have its own government and statehood some day.
The difference is the "within its borders" part eh? palestine is not part of isreal
Norway is already on our way to de facto cede part of the country to Sápmi, so way ahead of ya.
Palestinians are not an ethnic minority in Isrl amigo.
They are actually the majority and growing.
Not even counting the millions kicked out and not allowed to come back.
It's 100% correct that Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland and Romania have recognised Palestine, but that recognition goes all the way back to when these countries were still allied with the USSR.
Germany is always on the genociding side of history.
Just like China.
Both Gaza and the West Bank have their own government. They need to agree to reconcile before any talk of a Palestinian state can take place.
After October 7th 2023, it is.
So we got the major votes, what's next? Are we realising this palestine state? Like for real this time, no more delays
Please recognise Taiwan and Somaliland at the same time. Stop being hypocrite
Recognizing Palestine will only help Taiwans cause.
Who will be eligible to live in an independent Palestinian state because there is no nation of ethnic Palestinian people.
There was no "nation" of Israel before either. You need a country to be a nation and going back 5,000-10,000 years in history doesn't apply in international law.
It's not about ethnicity. Are borders of other sovereign countries based on ethnicity?
Palestinians are Canaanites
So where is this Palestinian state ??🤔
I completely agree with the German Foreign Minister. There are som many practical problems that have to be adressed, this kind of symbolism (yes, it us a reward for terrorism) is contraproductive. DW should have a longer interview with Mr. Levi were he can (try to) give answets to those practical questions, instaed of giving him a platform to use slogans.
Hamas is not Palestine. Palestine is a state while Hamas is merely the government on one part of Palestine.
The government that started a war they couldn't win and is destroying their people so their leader can live it up in Qatar with more cash meant to help with the devastation.
And Hamas's rise to power was corrupt and it has not held elections.
No, it isn't. Palestine, aka Judea, is a geographic region. That's it. Labelling someone Palestinian means about as much as labelling someone European.
@@clanpsi I suppose you prefer prisoners
@@clanpsi
Ok, maybe you prefer it this way. Palestine should be a country. But the overwhelming majority of it was "given" -aka, stolen from the Palestinians to Israel. So you're right. It's not a state. It should be a country.
And nobody put pressure on Hamas. Only on Israel.
No one is supporting Hamas. Both Israel and Hamas have been using the Palestinians as political tools. Palestinians have a right to exist. They deserve their own place just as Israel deserves theirs. It can be done without Hamas being part of it and without Israels boot on the innocents throats.
No this should have been done a long time ago.
Good coverage, DW, thank you.
Germany "two states solution requires direct negotiation on both sides?" hahaha, let Israel decide when to recognize Palestinian state? Haha, everyone know will never happen, all talk only 😂😂😆😆
Palastinians don't want a state, they want the whole piece.
Hamas charter outright denies the right for israel to exist.
Israel (and everyone else, for that matter) is for two-state solution. But the government of that state can’t be bent on the destruction of the other.
Hence why israel is for two state solution, just not under hamas rule.
@@datboib3432 and the PA? Because Israel is the one that was annexing the West Bank, which is the PA, not Hamas, and that was going on decades before Hamas ever existed.
Palestine was never a country, Palestinians are not a nation, they are Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian origin immigrants in Israel.
@@hrvojeorsolic1058 shhhh that doesn't fit the occupier/occupied narrative
Maybe the US should recognize breakaway ethnicities or regions of Ireland(Irish Travelers), Spain(Basque, Galician, Catalan and Castilian regions) and Norway(Kvens, Romani, Tatars), as sovereign states, and recognize them. Let's make our own unilateral announcement for the breakaway ethnicities states.
Breakaway? You may want to spend some time researching how the Israeli state was formed…
Isn't it contradictory that the majority of comments emphasize only the symbolic significance of the recognition of the Palestinian state, and on the other hand, the same recognition is cited as an obstacle in the negotiations for the release of the hostages? Can someone explain to me how the recognition of the Palestinian state affects the negotiations on the release of the hostages?🤔
They can no longer use the recognition of Palestine as a carrot to get the Palestinians to release hostages. It is emboldening Hamas and making them think that they can get away with more things.
The last speaker said declaring independence doesn't lead to any path forward. I would recommend looking at Irish history between 1919-1949. The Taoiseach referenced it in his speech, very directly to make people look at the facts.
Wow, what a premise DW. 75 years of occupation, land theft and murder and you ask such a question. There is nothing wrong with Journalism that seeks to find the truth, but the way you posed it comes from a sense of entitlement and lack of understanding.
Shocking in how biased he was in his interview style
@@johns1600 Is Phil Gayle, the DW interviewer, in the surreptitious pay of the German establishment? This is possibly the worst DW effort at unbiased journalism I have ever watched. For the record he has a BSc. in sports science, and a MA in creative writing. Maybe that explains his demeanour/approach/attitude; one of more or less permanent disdain, which I think he mistakes for edginess.
The discussion in this war is absurd.
First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years.
Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity.
The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.
@@jankaufmann4305 you again? You keep copy pasting your ideological nonsense sense everywhere smh
@@francotheafrican7550 every word in his comment is true
I'm not a mathematician nor a political scientist but I think a two-state solution requires that there be TWO states, right?
Israel left gaza in 2005 but had to return after oct 7 2024.
Do you call Irish freedom struggle a terrorist act? If not, then how can one call Palestinian struggle a terrorist act?
8:07 "October 7th was a shocking violation of international law"?
October 7th was a horrifying violation of every single principle of human dignity
All respect goes to the 3 brave countries that have backbones and the balls of steel
We will do everything possible to stop those 3 countries from recognising the state of Palestine 🇵🇸
Israeli foreign Minister
( above statement is enough to understand they don’t want Palestinians or a Palestinian state - BIBI tells 80% Palestinians are Hamas while President said 90% of them are not innocent even though half of the Palestinians are children)
Israel left gaza in 2005 but had to return after oct 7 2024.
DW should have given Eylon Levy 5 minutes to present the other side of the argument.
You can say that the Emancipation Proclamation was a reward for what happened at Harper's Ferry, WV in the 19th century when you follow this logic.
Is recognizing "palestinian" statehood a prize for terror? YES.
No, it doesn't have to be that.
Norway and Ireland continuing to be cool asf as always.
Thank goodness we have an example to follow. Big Love from a level-headed American. Free Palestine.
Hey don't forget Spain! Vale!
Yeah, I remember when we recognised Ismail Haniye as leader of the Palestinian government. Cool asf
A state means passports are issued. Good luck to Norway, Spain etc that choose this path , 10 of thousands of Palestinian coming to your shore, when they occupied and refuse to leave, form their little communities.
Europe needs immigrants.
Populationbis declining.
Is recognizing Palestine a "reward for terrorism"? The answer depends on your perspective I reckon. From Netanyahus point of view, it's not a "reward for terrorism".
This headline has lost human decency.
How do you mean this?
@@Keepthepeacesharethelove 'Is recognizing Palestine a reward for terrorism?' how would you read this in the light of the latest news, history and human rights? For me it's an attempt to re-define morale through isolating viewpoints while sacrificing modern society's core values.
It's an insult to logical thought. Palestine, aka Judea, is a geographic region. That's it. Israelis are Palestinian. Tourism brochures from late 1930s Israel literally advertised "Visit Palestine." It's the same as calling someone from Europe European.
Thank you for adding the disclaimer that your comment was an insult to logical thought. I fully agree.
That lady at the end just got sent there to try to revive interest in the Abraham Accords, which absolutely did not take Palestine into account, even if she's trying to say otherwise. Pretty pathetic.
PA was offered huge investments (jobs, trade, factories, loans, ...) to participate in Abraham Accords. PA tuyrned it down!
It's recognizing the existence of a people, as deserving of all human rights just like us
They don't want to be complicit
I haven't yet heard the argument that the Israeli government being a democracy with a balance of powers, first world economics, powerful friends with shared values, is precisely why it is being called on to a higher standard than say a warlord in the Congo or Iran. And the fact that it lives in a dangerous neighborhood, while unfortunate, is not justification to operate for so long outside of those expectations.
Marriage between different religions is not recognized in Isrl.
"They have put a noose around their own necks."
Germany will possibly face growing isolation as well because of their one sided stance and possible complicity charges.
Fluk islamists
I find it strange that Germany wants Palestinians to negotiate with Israel but don't encourage Ukrainians to talk with Russia.
They should do also with Ukraine ! Negotiations!
Germany wants, what US of A wants.
If Ukrainians negotiate with Russia, Russia will just take a break and learn from its past mistakes and then invade whatever's left of Ukraine a few years down the road. The war in Ukraine would immediately end if Russia left.
Germany is America's proxy state after all
yes
You're assuming that Palestinians want 2 states. They don't.
This gave me a lot to think about. Thank you DW.
Churchill said : at least when you stand alone, you know where you stand!
3 Brave countries that have balls of steel
Balls of steel indeed. Imagine the pressure being put on them.
UA-cam deletes my comments if I write an oppose opinion.
Did they recognized Taiwan?
No. They deserve to be free from apartheid.
They live in apartheid due to Humus - not Israel. Israel ranks the highest on human rights indexes. Palestine in the lowest.
@@jankaufmann4305 yeah khummus in west bank too? fking hasbara
The biggest bank in Israel is owned by a Palestinian. There are Palestinians in the Knesset and in the Supreme Court. Compare that to the position of Palestinians in Lebanon…
@@jankaufmann4305Apartheid existed long before Hamas became a thing so quit spreading misinformation.
I don't know what you mean by that. Israel ranks the highest percentage on human right indexes. Palestine in the lowest. If there i something as Apartheid it exists in Palestine since Humus deny their citizines basic human rights.
Denying Palestine right to exist is terrorism
No. It's annexation.
Terrorism should not exist tho
@@greenwave819 exactly. So denying Palestine shouldn't exist 👍✌️
we recognize Palestine as ancient roman province
Palestine exists as it always has. There's a country called Israel in Palestine and a bit of Lebanon too.
Lauren Blumenfeld is just a mouth for the US govt. THe US govt could just cut off weapons and aid to Israel and create a situation where Israel has no choice but peace and a 2 state solution. The US will never allow a 2 state solution.
Love from Bangladesh for Spain, Ireland, Norway ❤❤❤
from a neutral PoV, you guys have been ignoring palestine for 70+ years and it doesnt solve anything only to make it worse. maybe now try recognizing them and maybe things will change.
Are they recognizing Hamas? Do they have any idea of their message?
The problem is recognizing an occupying and criminal pseudo country..
Palestine and Hamas are not the same Thing.
They are recognizing Palestine, never hamas
@@AzrenKaleBolles-Pohjaconsidering they govern the Gaza Strip & the citizens have allowed them to for nearly 20 years , yes it is
Mahmoud Abbas is even less of a president than Ebrahim Raisi was, and inshallah he meets the same fate.
Yes.
Is really that the question? Wow!
It appears that DW is on Netanyahu's side on this issue. When the host says it is easy to see why "Palestine being recognized as a state" is a reward for terrorists. First, 90% of the Palestinian people killed were not terrorist nor were they Hamas. Secondly, the Hamas attack, as atrocious as that was, appeared to be the final straw to 76 years of, not only Palestinian oppression, but all the murder and crimes against humanity oppression brought with it. As if being confined to a walled in prison was not enough. Several Palestinian generations were born into this oppression and have never experienced freedom, rights or equality. This history is not a secret and it is why people around the world are protesting and supporting Palestinians....but not DW news!
The last guest speaker is good in describing the underlying currents. The statehood recognition by the 3 nations is unhelpful to move anyone forward. In fact, .. i think Norway hampers its mediator role to facilitate the tax revenue to PA in W. Bank?
it was the product of not recognizing it., but Hamas should have no place in a Palestinian state.
If they recognized earlier this Will not happened at first place
What terrorism ,fighting for freedom isn’t terrorism, Palestinians have the right to fight and resist occupation and oppression ,so many nations done it and Palestinians are no exception, they have the right of self determination and statehood like Israel and every other nation on earth and no one could or can deny that for them, gods given rights
Why did they vote in the terrorist group Hamas to rule them? They Palestinians should be fighting Hamas!
Fighting for freedom is targeting political or military target. To be oppressed doesn't give you the tight to commit atrocities. To be oppressed doesn't give you the right to be religious far-right.
❤
Free falastin
@@olafsigursons..
1. and the U.S does it without being oppressed !😒
2. Everyone has a right to their religious beliefs, historical religious wars are a given worldwide (I'm not saying I agree )
The unilateral decision can not work. Some of these leaders should know that. This is a decades-old problem that requires holistic discussion and agreement from all the parties involved. Unilaterally addressing it will only complicate the whole issue. Many countries, including the USA, are saying the same thing about the two-state solution, but it should be done properly for lasting peace.
Let us negotiate if humans of britain, UK, germany and Israel should have freedom.
This question coming from a twisted mind.
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks Spain, Norway, Ireland 🇸🇯❤️🇪🇸❤️🇮🇪❤️ YOU ARE ALWAYS WILL RECOGNITION AS GOOD SOULS.
Ok now provide the map
Tell me: when did humans get anything, any right, without violence?
Israel should recognize a Catalonian state. Maybe a Basque state as well. And then let's see the hypocritical spanish reaction...
Palestine is not part of Isreal... what is wrong with you people...
@Salara2130 it just shows that many Israelis already think that the Palestinian territories belong to Israel like Catalonia belongs to Spain. Not surprising
Basques and Catalonians have full citizenship rights.
Isrl should just give the Palestinians full citizenship rights
Palestinians already outnumber Israelis by a million.
Mister Livy always talks sense!
Hey Spain, how about recognizing an independent Euscadi? Or Catalonia? Hey Norway, how about recognizing an independent Lapland? Something to consider.
People in Basque country and Catalonia have FULL Citizenship rights. Same in Norway.
How about giving all Palestinians FULL citizenship rights?
No? Why?
Those say two-state solution but keep silence. Actually they only want Israel state there not Paletine.
From "we don't negotiate with terrorists", To "reward the terrorists" 😂
As long as they are recognizing the Palestinian Authority and not Hamas as the government of the Palestinian state, it is not a reward for terrorism.
More like, we are the terrorists. We're the ones who stole Palestine in the first place, and so we are complicit in the results. Continuing to refuse recognition of Palestinian statehood is just continuing to deny our own responsibility.
Unfortunately, many of the people in power are cowards who flee from the barest whisper of accountability.
@@steelytemplar Palestinian authority is Hamas
@@krmon1992Reality says opposite. Most of Palestine is governed by the Palestinian Authority. That's what's recognized internationally not Hamas. So get that right
@krmon1992 No, the Palestinian Authority is the other ruling Palestinian faction - the one that governs the West Bank and which is interested in peaceful coexistence with Israel.
Hamas isn't the legitimate government of anyone. They were elected into power in 2006 based on promises of reducing corruption. And, based on exit polls, a significant portion of the Gazans who voted for Hamas in that election also wanted to pursue a peace process with Israel. Once in power, however, Hamas used violence to solidify their control in Gaza, and they no longer allow elections.
The Palestinian Authority and Hamas are enemies of each other.
The Palestinian Authority is the way forward for peace.
What about the right of self determinatiin like any other country in the world?
"If I don’t steal your home, someone else will" - Yaakov, Israeli Settler
Palestinians are not Hamas. Israelis are not settlers.
No, it is not. Germany needs to stop pandering to Israeli’s far right whims
By what, kowtowing to the antisemitic right wing in Germany???
"is recognizing a reward for terror" DW says that while south africa exist
Dude, how can Germany be on the wrong side of history again ?
In a way it is a reward because of what happened on October 7th.
The Right of Armed Resistance under International Law. 💪👏👏👏
@@timmy-wj2hc Which law book are you reading? Is it hard to translate from Russian?
@@timmy-wj2hc if you're talking about murdering 1200 people a right to resistance under international law you are delusional
History did not start on Oct 7th!
@@raminm.8785 it doesn't give them the right to kill innocent people
Should Hamas have had to cause such a scene to have the Palestinian legitimate interests heard?
Edited to add: Did the Isrealies really have to respond the way they did? They could have played the victim and gotten whatever they wanted but they chose to show their behinds.
So Iran, Hezbollah, and Syrian groups all perched on the border is unrelated? Wake up
It's their true colors..it's hard to conceal afterall
Yes, they did play the victim for like 20 years, during which time they slowly encroached on Palestinian lands on the West Bank and closed off Gaza like an open-air prison. Apparently, that is not enough for them. So Hamas "causing a scene" was what they had wanted all these years, and they literally pushed for Hamas to cause a scene. They might even have purposefully facilitated the Hamas attack (by ignoring relevant intelligence and pulling off border guards). After that, they had been using the Oct 7 event to cover for all the atrocities they committed.
From the perspective of the Palestinians, who have suffered systematic oppression by the Israeli apartheid regime for 70 years, their suffering hardly gets any mainstream reports and will never receive substantial international support. So if they truly want freedom, they cannot rely on Israel. They cannot rely on the Palestinian authority in the West Bank, who are basically controlled by Israel. They cannot rely on the international society, which largely ignored their plight. What choice do they have other than supporting Hamas? At least this time it worked.
2:45 “unilaterally recognize Palestinian state”? The vast majority of the countries recognize the Palestinian state. This is no longer something to debate.
Who has embassies in Palestine?
The premise of the title question is preposterous.
A Palestenian state would be run by Hamas. I suppose that makes absolutely no difference to these European leaders.
Yes it is
The second guest claiming PLO wants peace and is different from Hamas. lol
This is insane
От создания независимого Палестинского государства будет мир в Палестине и на Ближнем Востоке! Палестинским беженцам нужно вернуться на исторически родную землю. Пора израилю прекратить огонь, геноцид в Газе и освободить всю Палестинскую землю! Мнения израиля вообще не имеет никакого значения т.к. еврейское государство было создано в 1948г. против желания Палестинского народа на святой арабской Палестинской земле! Спасибо всем странам за поддержку Палестины!
Your master says so
Also don’t forget if Palestine is recognized as a state this means they are allowed to have an official military. That military will get funding from friends Israel and the US don’t want. Also October 7th was also Putin’s birthday.
First chance they get they will start a war against Israel - and lose
Of course, wouldn’t have expected anything less from a German state-owned media organization.