I absolutely hate how everyone complained about Aiden Pierce for being too serious, And now that they've made a new, comical character, everyone says that he doesn't fit with the open world action aspect of the game. The devs made this character because of us, and now you guys are complaining. Make up your damn mind people!
Ubisoft usually either makes a character that is super serious and broody, or one that is super extra-verted and "funny" or whatnot. They seem to have trouble making a more balanced character. Aiden actually would've been alright had they made him less one-dimensional and fleshed out his character.
Sebastian Bledsoe I actually really liked aiden. I liked watch dog's story quiet a lot, it had a serious atmosphere. Wd2 is mostly trying to make you laugh.
Ubisoft should keep AC, Far Cry and Watch Dogs single player only. The online modes are pointless. Almost everyone plays it only for the main campaign.
MegaMarc yeah but what I meant was that not enough people utilise or make use of the multiplayer or online features in those games and in the long run, it's a waste of time, money and resources
The whole Marcus shouldn't kill people schtick is very fascinating to me. Never felt this way about Drake's character in the Uncharted series. Of course people will passionately disagree with me, but that's what makes it so fascinating to observe.
I think Uncharted feels different because it's quite a familiar cinematic genre we're accustomed to. Saying that though I don't get the criticism of it in WD2 since we've been killing people in games for years but now it's suddenly become not very believable in this game.
Nathan was mostly killing in self defence. While Marcus is killing people like police officers who are just doing their job. Not exactly moral for a guy who claims to be doing the right thing lol.
Marcus doesn't really have to kill unless you make him with your choices when you play. If that's what you believe about him, it's because you made him do it. Drake is a *thief*, and has broken the law on multiple occasions throughout 4 games, he's not an innocent person.
I've heard the point that Marcus doesn't feel like a character capable of being a killer, brought up by a few different reviewers now. It's an interesting point of criticism, shows that games have come to a point of immersion in which the characters characterisation directly effect our actions in game. Makes me wonder if Ubisoft would actual consider taking lethal combat out of future games or just makes the protagonist more aggressive.
Metal Scorpian I mean, it doesn't ruin anything, if you don't like it, just play non lethally, and people who like shooting get that, ubi get's more money, everybody's happy, there aren't any downsides really.
He probably meant the gameplay, physics and visual or maybe the guy who reviewed the original watch dogs wasn't him just because it's rated by the same company doesn't mean all employees have the same opinions.
Jesus Christ! My thoughts exactly. @Super ahmed, you could have just checked for yourself instead of making yourself look stupid. Both reviews are by the same guy - Dan Stapleton.
Standards change. Numbers mean nothing. The validity of the score is only in relation to whether or not you have an affinity to the specific reviewers tastes.
You absolutely do not have to shoot or kill people in this game for most if not all of the missions. They give you more than enough gadgets, abilities and map design methods of using disruption, deception and stealth. That is not an accurate criticism.
I don't expect people at IGN to understand game design. I was able to complete most missions stealth using the stun gun and hacking. The times I didn't, I was being lazy or reckless.
Says the map isn't big and I'm like dude have you driven across the whole map? The game is pretty big, he probably just looked at the map and assumed it was small but when you actually explore every nook and cranny the game is huge. These reviewers need to play the game more instead of spitting out reviews and untrue statements
ayush yash yea the map doesn't do it justice because you look at the map and assume it's small but when you actually go through the cities the game is much bigger
I think he is giving it an 8.5 because of the subjective ideal he has of Marcus. Yeah the game offers many ways to complete missions but it really URGES the stealthy roles. So of course Marcus will tend to be a likeable upbeat guy because I don't think they designed him with "killer" in mind.
yeah the first game score was way to high for it.. i mean i played it on the 360 and id give the 360 version maybe a 4-6 out of 10 and ps4 im guessing isnt that much better so probably give that a 5-6 out of 10 wd2 is by far 10000000 x better then wd1.. and 8.5 is def what i would give it
Wildly Coyote i mean all these major review companies are going to have inaccuracies across their reviews when there's different people reviewing things. it's different people with different opinions, it's impossible to standardize that.
It's like saying a shooter game clone, because GTA is so popular it has basically became its own genre and just because another game tries this" Freeroam, Car Stealing, Shoot-em Up type of game like Mafia 3 and Watch_Doge 2 doesn't mean they should be called out for it.
ErectileReptitle autistic is someone who is stuck in their world and can't get out of. those people are not stupid they are smarter than you. and considering your reply they are far smarter than you.
The reviewer states that Marcus isn't the right character because killing feels like it doesn't fit his persona.. but then confirms he only uses lethal tactics because he's not good enough at the game to do it stealthily or or without lethal tactics.. so really what he's saying is the part he doesn't like is the facts he's not good enough at video games!
James Burns I agree with the principal as well.. But this game isn't about mindless murder, that's what GTA is for.. This game offers so much for you to complete tasks (and indeed the entire game) without lethal force that non-lethal play is actually encouraged.. However the point I made is, the reviewer is blaming Ubisofts design choices rather than his own inability to use stealth.
killing doesn't just not fit his personality but his beliefs too which makes you question what sort of "activist" he is. maybe if he just wasn't so liberal it would make more sense
huricane threeonesix Marcus (and indeed dedsec as a whole) are 'Hacktivists'.. Like Anonymous! .. They are not about killing or violence but rather about spreading the word, especially via social media.. This is what the game is about - their social media following, delivering their message, sticking it to the corporate companies abusing everyones personal data etc.
No, he didn`t said he`s bad at stealth games. What he meant is, that the stealth sections are a bit too hard compared to just run and shoot. What this means is that most of the people who plays this game will be kinda forced to play the run and shoot style of play, making the character feels out of place for most people. Importante note: don`t come at me saying " People this days just want everything to be easy, i love the old school days where everyone played hard games and bla bla bla" This argument is invalid.
Coolgameplaywatcher yeah canonically, Marcus doesn't kill. It's very easy to tell and they pretty much flat out say it in the cutscenes. Everyone who plays this game seems to be completely oblivious to that fact though.
leolionhunt The sales dropped because everyone already bought it. You're not gonna keep buying the same game. Unless, it's GTA 5 and they release it 5 different times.
Unless you're playing on a standard HD 42" TV sitting 2.5 meters away on a couch (aka most of the console world), then literally the Pro doesn't make a difference.
Jamel Yeah but my pc is still plugged into a 42" TV 2.5 meters away from me. I just like playing games, I don't really care what setting they're on as long as they look decent. Probably because I started on 8-Bit. Things are looking great these days, even on medium.
Are u just figuring this out u watch reviews to see if the game is worth buying. Like come on this isnt rocket science here. This is what reviews are for simpleton.
Melly Mel I'm definitely enjoying it. It's a solid game, but I feel at least Uncharted 4 and Dishonored 2 would get GOTY before this. Probably a couple others that I can't think of.
Danny Devito yea I loved uncharted 4 too and I haven't played dishonored 2 yet but played the first one and it seems like dishonored 2 is probably going to win because it's not a mainstream game (usually popular games don't win)
Atychiphobe it is a little ironic.......wouldn't use that as the definition though lol and watch dogs 1 shouldn't even have a review since it wasn't even the same game as the demos lol
Jesse Clary lol youre the one that needs to google it. Swarms comment is relating to situational irony. If it the game is improved over the old one , it obviously shouldnt get the same score. It is the opposite of what you think would happen. Thus , situational irony.
Nice Review - just got Watch Dogs 2 with a huge price discount on PC DVD, San Francisco is totally awesome, so much detail. Love the game already, can recommended it and Watch Dogs 1 too. Epic.
The traditional ten point rating system is completely skewed when it comes to video games. Almost as if we feel the need to give it a high rating because of how hard the developers worked on the game. But the movie industry seems like a more accurate system. Even though a movie may take hundreds of thousands of combined man hours to make, when it's not a good movie, we rate it accordingly. With games, even if a game is significantly worse than a masterpiece (take The Last Of Us for example because everyone is aware of it) We still give them an 8.5. Is Watchdogs 2 85 percent the game The Last of Us is? Probably not. It's debatable but I would say no. We shouldn't look at anything under an 8 as being a 'bad game'. The same way a lot of movies that score 7.5 or so on IMDB or 75% on rotten Tomatoes are still awesome movies.
Not only did you finally finish this review after literally EVERYONE else had already done so, but you also posted it on the very same day I platinum'd the game. What a great help you are...
they did make it clear that it wasn't going to be available until a month after release way before launch, which is why people didn't whine like girls.
Shoutout to who made this game me being a San Francisco bay area native it just soooo satisfying seein this game and I definitely just downloaded it recently it still holds up years later 🌁💪🏾
This Game feels much More Fun.The Map is Huge no matter how it looks , The more you explore it, the bigger it starts to become. I didn't Mind the Side Characters ( Dedsec) and I thought they were quite fun. I really liked Marcus as a character. Driving may be a Little Arcady, But it's definitely better than the first one. Violence isn't at all what you're supposed to do( this isn't GTA . Hey I love GTA Btw), It's All Stealth and There's Obviously the hacking. The hacking is... Really really Great and I loved it. Overall I loved the introduction of such a 'Genre' in the open-world games and Guys, This isn't GTA( Again?!) . I think I should conclude by saying the game deserves to get a good 9 or something around that but not so low as an 8.5 ;-)
I 100% agree In the cut scenes Marcus comes off as this "kid-friendly", gentle natured hipster. But then 2 mins later you can run into a park and start gunning down police, women and dogs. It just didn't fit well with the character they're trying to develop. But then again I guess beggers can't be choosers. Because if they took away leathal weapons people would still complain. But anyways I've only played about 6 hours of gameplay I'm up to mission where you steal the night rider car. So far I like the game much better than the first. But still needs improvement. The cars look plastic, & the collision damage is unrealistic, the pistols are too balky they look like giant bricks in your hand, missions repetitive (break into a secure area, hack something, then get away) I give it 7.5 out of 10 Kind of a shame, gta 5 came out in 2013 and is still light years better than majority of open world games recently released
Midnight Justice Your not forced to go on killing sprees ever though. The whole game can be beat without killing anyone. Your bias is showing also. GTA 5 got hella repetitive and the only way to complete missions was the guns blazing approach
When I said GTA was better I wasn't necessarily talking about missions. I just meant the overall fun factor. You can still jump into a gta lobby and it'll be full of players having FUN. Unlike games like division, watch dogs etc. that only lasted a few months then got boring and repetitive. Not to mention gta still pumping out FREE dlc- game modes/cars/guns that keeps the game fresh.
GTA4 and San Andreas are much better than 5. Much more mission variety, more realistic acting(and likeable)characters, and writing that makes some sense. Atleast WD2 has a bunch of different ways to play. GTA5 is the same throughout.
When ppl say San Andreas is the best, they're just speaking from nostalgia. It was the best of that era but cmon be realistic it doesn't hold a candle to V. The graphics, dialogue, map size, mission variety, character swap option, gta5 is better in every way. Even tho San Andreas was great and will hold a place in our hearts. It's like when ppl say Jordan is the best, no he was the best of his era. But be realistic he won't stand a chance against today's ball players. Westbrook, lebron, Kwai Leonard, KD etc. would destroy 90s Jordan
I think that was a good decision because the tone of the game, as mentioned in the interview, encourages stealth gameplay and gives you more tools to be stealthy than to go in guns blazing.
One of the best games on ps4...I could not stop playing it even after beating the game with platinum trophy. Not deep as GTA but it is significantly better than it as it is not created in a way that traps you with silly repeatitive missions and if you stop play the slow pacing game that requires you either to play for million hours to gain money or choosing the short cut buy buying money shark.
In my opinion this game should at least be a 9.0/10. The story and a few bugs are the only problems with the game. The gameplay is fun and smooth, the game looks beautiful at times, and most of the side quests are fun as hell
The graphics are great but I always want good gameplay and in that aspect WD2 did not dissapoint. It is a fantastic game and a upgrade over the first WD in nearly every way.
SuperSaiyan3985 My short, simple, "blanket" answer was meant to be understood as "the passage of time" and include such thoughts as "our standards, or our expectations, have simply changed with the passage of time." Because everything changes with time. Opinions are subjective, you know? There's no constant template for reviewing games, time changed everything. It's not as though you're the same person you were two years ago, you're probably not even the same person you were six months ago.
Ryan Nichols are you dumb. If we make these inter percentages that is 10%. You may not no this but that is alot. And mostly if its from a trash game that was horrible.
Unlike alot of people i loved one, and i honestly think that it would be really cool if in a few months they threw in aiden as a playable character in a dlc because hes just a memorable character and to play as him in watch dogs 2 with all the new hacks would be fun and interesting especially if he teamed up with characters like wrench and marcus in a few missions
While I can respect the gameplay improvements, I do feel that it is worth mentioning it’s biggest flaw: optimization. More specifically, optimization on the pc. As is the case with many Ubisoft games, there are noticeable and significant dips in performance throughout the game. Still, though, if you’re willing to turn down the settings (a LOT) then it’s still a fun experience
So because the reviewer is bad at stealth games he always ended up on a mass murder spree and that conflicts with the cut-scenes ? Just because he chose to play that way doesn't mean it conflicts with the cut-scenes he made the gameplay conflict.
Hir0h It actually really does when an enemy sees you for literally 1.5 second and every other enemy just comes raining down on you and calls on reinforcements that arrive in 5 seconds. Also, the murdering of cops and others isn't the only inconsistency in Marcus character.
Bleach Sippers oh, and I'm guessing you've played the entire game from start to finish? Beat all the missions? Its not even about getting spotted. Some of the traps you set are downright lethal. And yea....its my choice as the player to kill. But, the fact that its even an option is what's messed up. Guess you've never played the splinter cell games....the old ones, where they literally failed you on missions if you killed at times. Just giving the players the choice to kill when they could have maximized non-lethal mechanics, when the game is not choice based, and the action is inconsistent with the character is just dumb.
My problem is that the reviewer thinks the only option to getting detected is killing everyone and then he complains about it not matching the character he could have just as easily run away or hid from the enemies. the reviewer himself created the inconsistancy he complained about.
Trust me, it's one of best looking games for now. Atleast on PC tho, but this really is a heavy game. I have a 1660ti and I still can't go above Ultra settings (ie HFTS Shadows and TXAA enabled) without getting stuck with 45fps with drops to 35.
It seems like the game is written around playing it non-lethal but it must include gunplay because it's a AAA videogame mimicking GTA. It's on sale now with a bundle including it and Watch Dogs 1 so I'm considering it.
I miss IGN listing the Pros and Cons along with the scores in their reviews. It made the rating more cohesive; now it's just barren.
While I can see why the pros and cons list was helpful, I think it may have oversimplified the games a bit. But to each their own.
wood chucker Your first problem is expecting them to do a good job...
they stopped doing them because people were making memes out of them lol
CollyCorn 7.8 too much memes
wood chucker they don't list them on the website reviews anymore?
"Better than Watch Dogs in every way"
Watch Dogs 8.4
Watch Dogs 2 8.5
Makes Sense.
Darth FatCow Lmao, but you have to factor in the time as well. Cod 4 wouldn't get the same review if it came out today.
Did he review the first Watch Dogs?
Oh IGN, never fails to depress.
Lmao but still... This is truly better than 1st one
Darth FatCow AAAHAHAHAHA
I absolutely hate how everyone complained about Aiden Pierce for being too serious, And now that they've made a new, comical character, everyone says that he doesn't fit with the open world action aspect of the game. The devs made this character because of us, and now you guys are complaining. Make up your damn mind people!
Sebastian Bledsoe exactly what I'm thinking
well i loved aiden and never thought wd1 was bad. i hope i like wd2 as well
Ubisoft usually either makes a character that is super serious and broody, or one that is super extra-verted and "funny" or whatnot. They seem to have trouble making a more balanced character. Aiden actually would've been alright had they made him less one-dimensional and fleshed out his character.
I agree, but people are complaining way too much
Sebastian Bledsoe I actually really liked aiden. I liked watch dog's story quiet a lot, it had a serious atmosphere. Wd2 is mostly trying to make you laugh.
I bet theyre goin to give watch dogs 3 a score of 8.6
michael parks true since the first got 8.4 now the second got 8.5
or a 9.5 cuz I think wd1 was 7.5
ZombfectedGaming 349 Watch Dogs 1 is 8.4 on ps4 and x box one. You are talking about the last gen version.
Can't wait for Watchdogs 17 to get a perfect score!!
I'm from the future and they did
Ubisoft should keep AC, Far Cry and Watch Dogs single player only. The online modes are pointless. Almost everyone plays it only for the main campaign.
BeastBlood1996 I think keep the coop in far cry, but I agree make the single player the main focus
BeastBlood1996 get an external or sub studio to do the multi. That's what happened with AC online, it was done by a different studio.
BeastBlood1996 Everything has to have multiplayer these days.
AC had some fun multiplayer in brotherhood and revelations
MegaMarc yeah but what I meant was that not enough people utilise or make use of the multiplayer or online features in those games and in the long run, it's a waste of time, money and resources
Why does the guy reviewing this game sound like a text to speech program?
BoneMeal dude I was thinking the same
BoneMeal IGN is actually a computer program built around a few algorithms that analyze preorder sales
BoneMeal
I was gonna say exactly the same!
Because it is. Ubisoft have designed it.
BoneMeal it's a Stapleton of what's wrong with voice acting.
"It's a much better game than it's previous version"
Difference is 0.1
IGN, you need to stop reviewing!!
Different reviewers 8.5 is about right but 8.4 was too high fur the first one. He can't just give it a 10 in comparison to the first one.
yash the visual of the game is different if u dont like then just say dat
I love this game. I'm pissed at the low rating bruh.
my bad lolol you right though i just say they review but ign is stupid dats why i dont listen to them
No one should😂
The whole Marcus shouldn't kill people schtick is very fascinating to me. Never felt this way about Drake's character in the Uncharted series. Of course people will passionately disagree with me, but that's what makes it so fascinating to observe.
I think Uncharted feels different because it's quite a familiar cinematic genre we're accustomed to. Saying that though I don't get the criticism of it in WD2 since we've been killing people in games for years but now it's suddenly become not very believable in this game.
That's because Marcus is just too much of a fun dork to possibly believe he could be a murderer, anyway, non lethal is way funner.
Nathan was mostly killing in self defence. While Marcus is killing people like police officers who are just doing their job. Not exactly moral for a guy who claims to be doing the right thing lol.
Marcus doesn't really have to kill unless you make him with your choices when you play. If that's what you believe about him, it's because you made him do it. Drake is a *thief*, and has broken the law on multiple occasions throughout 4 games, he's not an innocent person.
Clyde Grant II Doesn't claim to be innocent either.
I haven't killed a single person yet the stealth in this game is good and I have used my melee weapon and stun gun
I started killing everyone after the eye for an eye mission.
Mectrex when you melee someone you kill them just so you know.
@@KB-el4cy na it's just like Batman they don't really die
Mectrex melee is killing them duh
@@KB-el4cy If you go to the tutorial, it says stealth takedown is non lethal. The enemies are just lying there but not dead
I've heard the point that Marcus doesn't feel like a character capable of being a killer, brought up by a few different reviewers now. It's an interesting point of criticism, shows that games have come to a point of immersion in which the characters characterisation directly effect our actions in game. Makes me wonder if Ubisoft would actual consider taking lethal combat out of future games or just makes the protagonist more aggressive.
It would be a risky move, could make a lot of people not interested if they can't shoot everything in sight, people are dumb that way lol.
I miss the days when games didnt try to appeal to everyone and were great in their own merit.
You could pass the whole game without killing a single person, it's up to the player.
Metal Scorpian I mean, it doesn't ruin anything, if you don't like it, just play non lethally, and people who like shooting get that, ubi get's more money, everybody's happy, there aren't any downsides really.
darkSYNced i meant games in general and their is a downside if their sales expectations dont meet
"Better in nearly every way"
Watchdogs- 8.4
Watchdogs 2- 8.5
He probably meant the gameplay, physics and visual or maybe the guy who reviewed the original watch dogs wasn't him just because it's rated by the same company doesn't mean all employees have the same opinions.
Jesus Christ! My thoughts exactly.
@Super ahmed, you could have just checked for yourself instead of making yourself look stupid. Both reviews are by the same guy - Dan Stapleton.
Voytash Hence the "maybe".
Standards change. Numbers mean nothing. The validity of the score is only in relation to whether or not you have an affinity to the specific reviewers tastes.
IT WAS THE SAME REVIEWER.
Too few dogs. Too much watch. 8.5 - IGN
The stun gun is upgradable, and it's quiet easy to use. Non lethal is the way to go for this game, but sometimes you blow stuff up by accident.
Yeah, sometimes I accidentally run people over, but I just pretend it never happened xD.
darkSYNced HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! YOURE SUCH A FUNNY GAMER!!!
Jonathon Sanders Um... thanks?
IT IS UPGRADABLE?
You absolutely do not have to shoot or kill people in this game for most if not all of the missions. They give you more than enough gadgets, abilities and map design methods of using disruption, deception and stealth. That is not an accurate criticism.
Nelson Blake II yep. There's no reason to dock points for choice. It's spite veiled as concern.
But no one really plays open world games for stealth though.
@Tim Janssen were you able to finish a no kill playthrough?
I don't expect people at IGN to understand game design. I was able to complete most missions stealth using the stun gun and hacking. The times I didn't, I was being lazy or reckless.
@@cristhian900 Not true, assassins creed is total stealth game
Check finally cleared IGN?
he was being facetious mate...
twas a joke my friend..or was it..
that's not what facetious means
LMAO!!!!!!!!
i was talking to osskeet.
Says the map isn't big and I'm like dude have you driven across the whole map? The game is pretty big, he probably just looked at the map and assumed it was small but when you actually explore every nook and cranny the game is huge. These reviewers need to play the game more instead of spitting out reviews and untrue statements
same here.. i thought the same the map is pretty big
ayush yash yea the map doesn't do it justice because you look at the map and assume it's small but when you actually go through the cities the game is much bigger
not to be that guy, but its driven. have and drove dont work together.
True, the map looks small, but try exploring it... You'll find it massive.
Melly Mel Agreed. And it's a dense map.
I think he is giving it an 8.5 because of the subjective ideal he has of Marcus. Yeah the game offers many ways to complete missions but it really URGES the stealthy roles. So of course Marcus will tend to be a likeable upbeat guy because I don't think they designed him with "killer" in mind.
TheHawaiianDog EXACTLY.
I forget where but I think they confirmed he doesn't kill anyone in cannon.
says the second is so much better than the first but the score difference is .1😂😂😂😂
i think different people reviewed it.
the first game got too high of a score anyway, 8.5 is about right for this game
lesryglrhfohser different people reviewed it yea.. but the whole staff and company approved of it. IGN is completely unreliable
yeah the first game score was way to high for it.. i mean i played it on the 360 and id give the 360 version maybe a 4-6 out of 10 and ps4 im guessing isnt that much better so probably give that a 5-6 out of 10 wd2 is by far 10000000 x better then wd1.. and 8.5 is def what i would give it
Wildly Coyote i mean all these major review companies are going to have inaccuracies across their reviews when there's different people reviewing things. it's different people with different opinions, it's impossible to standardize that.
Who even uses the phrase "Grand Theft Auto Clone" anymore lol.
ErectileReptitle do you even know what autistic mean?
azzzanadra Someone who is a brony, furry, or liberal, etc.
It's like saying a shooter game clone, because GTA is so popular it has basically became its own genre and just because another game tries this" Freeroam, Car Stealing, Shoot-em Up type of game like Mafia 3 and Watch_Doge 2 doesn't mean they should be called out for it.
ErectileReptitle autistic is someone who is stuck in their world and can't get out of.
those people are not stupid they are smarter than you.
and considering your reply they are far smarter than you.
ErectileReptitle you are a disgrace to gnome child!! change your profile picture
The reviewer states that Marcus isn't the right character because killing feels like it doesn't fit his persona.. but then confirms he only uses lethal tactics because he's not good enough at the game to do it stealthily or or without lethal tactics.. so really what he's saying is the part he doesn't like is the facts he's not good enough at video games!
true, but they hated the main character for that reason. So if Marcus' personality was based around his killing then people wouldn't like that
James Burns I agree with the principal as well.. But this game isn't about mindless murder, that's what GTA is for.. This game offers so much for you to complete tasks (and indeed the entire game) without lethal force that non-lethal play is actually encouraged..
However the point I made is, the reviewer is blaming Ubisofts design choices rather than his own inability to use stealth.
killing doesn't just not fit his personality but his beliefs too which makes you question what sort of "activist" he is. maybe if he just wasn't so liberal it would make more sense
huricane threeonesix Marcus (and indeed dedsec as a whole) are 'Hacktivists'.. Like Anonymous! .. They are not about killing or violence but rather about spreading the word, especially via social media.. This is what the game is about - their social media following, delivering their message, sticking it to the corporate companies abusing everyones personal data etc.
No, he didn`t said he`s bad at stealth games. What he meant is, that the stealth sections are a bit too hard compared to just run and shoot. What this means is that most of the people who plays this game will be kinda forced to play the run and shoot style of play, making the character feels out of place for most people.
Importante note: don`t come at me saying " People this days just want everything to be easy, i love the old school days where everyone played hard games and bla bla bla" This argument is invalid.
I'm pretty sure they designed Marcus to do stuff the stealthy way and not kill in true cannon of the story.
+The Donald So we can shoot rockets at Oracle Arena! ;)
Coolgameplaywatcher yeah canonically, Marcus doesn't kill. It's very easy to tell and they pretty much flat out say it in the cutscenes. Everyone who plays this game seems to be completely oblivious to that fact though.
I always go in violently and kill all bad guys even when I stun them
Is IGN hiring robots for commentary now?
IllHornet IKR!!!
welcome to the future
this game is so good it deserves a better score
Who is here because Ubisoft is giving it free on July 12th???
Really where idk this
Yup
@@renosephiroth316 on computer
imagine being so nit-picky that you don't play the game even after getting it for free.
@@visionpeer wdym???
Watch Dogs 2 is the best in the series
Took you long enough
They waited for the multiplayer.
Ubisoft Games lmao
Ikr
1Stunna2323 theyll prob take forever with final fantasy 15 review
Char Aznable i hope so, its only single player game should b quick, squareenix Are the best
Hardly been able to put this game down since I got it; beautiful world, great sense of humour and generally fun to play.
I don't know about you guys but this game has improved in a lot of ways
Joe Archangel I just like the fact that he's black. wd 3 should star someone asian but not chinese or japanese
n00bie sleeping dogs
Aiden pierce was cold blooded and it made him badass. Some people just hatin.
Aiden pierce had the personality of a burned toast.
Mack Peters he's not here to be cold blooded,he's here to be entertaining.A feat at which he failed miserably.
Nikola Predovan a darker tone isnt entertainment?
Mack Peters a darker tone can be done right.Take a look at Walker from Spec Ops:the line.Aiden did not do that right.
OR LIKE BATMAN
y'all finally doing a review? Took ya long enough
HAHAHAHA
+BLVDKillz they were waiting for the multiplayer to be fixed before doing the full review :P
So a Ubisoft game that finally impresses this year huh
Akira pretty letdown year for em , it's good they have a game that shines out the rest
Steep was great
Jedi Ninja
fight me
leolionhunt
The sales dropped because everyone already bought it. You're not gonna keep buying the same game. Unless, it's GTA 5 and they release it 5 different times.
leolionhunt
Compared to release date, a lot of games do.
Wtf the stealth is incredibly easy in Watch dogs 2 80% of the time you don't even have to enter the building.
0rbz Yeah, agreed.
toward the end of the story you have to go in for the physical hacks.
you could just challenge yourself and go in
Your RC can do physical hacks though.
jumper can do physical hacks
Alongside Rise of the TR (for the Ps4), this was my BEST purchase for this year!!
BrankoP85 TR on the PS4 pro is amazing
Westin Gold it's the same game
Johnny Bravo No on the pro it has 4K checker boarding and anti aliasing makes the game even more gorgeous.
Unless you're playing on a standard HD 42" TV sitting 2.5 meters away on a couch (aka most of the console world), then literally the Pro doesn't make a difference.
Jamel Yeah but my pc is still plugged into a 42" TV 2.5 meters away from me. I just like playing games, I don't really care what setting they're on as long as they look decent. Probably because I started on 8-Bit. Things are looking great these days, even on medium.
Who else watching reviews and see what to buy because the games are on sale
did u play watch dog 2? ...how was it?
Right here. On xbox store it's 25 bucks for the gold edition; saving 75 bucks.
Are u just figuring this out u watch reviews to see if the game is worth buying. Like come on this isnt rocket science here. This is what reviews are for simpleton.
Wtf took so long? I thought they got games in advance
They waited for the multiplier to get fixed so they could make a more fair review
Ørjan Arvikk
The review in progress scored the game a 6.5 because the multi-player was broken, they were waiting for that to be fixed.
Would've gave it a 8.9 or 9
Danny Devito me too I feel like it could be GOTY
Melly Mel I'm definitely enjoying it. It's a solid game, but I feel at least Uncharted 4 and Dishonored 2 would get GOTY before this. Probably a couple others that I can't think of.
Danny Devito yea I loved uncharted 4 too and I haven't played dishonored 2 yet but played the first one and it seems like dishonored 2 is probably going to win because it's not a mainstream game (usually popular games don't win)
Melly Mel like witcher 3 or dragon age? Popular games always win..
Ecap they were popular among the rpg and dedicated gamer community but not really mainstream so casuals didn't really know about them
Good thing they got this franchise on track before it was to late
They said it was an improvement over the first Watch_Dogs yet they give it the same score? That my friends is what you call irony.
That isn't what irony means at all.
Atychiphobe Yes it is. You would have expected Watch_Dogs 2 to get a better score than the first one.
Atychiphobe it is a little ironic.......wouldn't use that as the definition though lol and watch dogs 1 shouldn't even have a review since it wasn't even the same game as the demos lol
Jesse Clary lol youre the one that needs to google it. Swarms comment is relating to situational irony. If it the game is improved over the old one , it obviously shouldnt get the same score. It is the opposite of what you think would happen. Thus , situational irony.
Jesse Clary I didnt watch either final ratings since it seemed the game was crap lmao
I play the game on XB1 and I have had no problems with frame rate, online or bacicly anything.
Dr.Forza same here
Dr.Forza same!
Nice Review - just got Watch Dogs 2 with a huge price discount on PC DVD, San Francisco is totally awesome, so much detail. Love the game already, can recommended it and Watch Dogs 1 too. Epic.
it's one of those games that you play through once and forget that you own it
The traditional ten point rating system is completely skewed when it comes to video games. Almost as if we feel the need to give it a high rating because of how hard the developers worked on the game. But the movie industry seems like a more accurate system. Even though a movie may take hundreds of thousands of combined man hours to make, when it's not a good movie, we rate it accordingly. With games, even if a game is significantly worse than a masterpiece (take The Last Of Us for example because everyone is aware of it) We still give them an 8.5. Is Watchdogs 2 85 percent the game The Last of Us is? Probably not. It's debatable but I would say no. We shouldn't look at anything under an 8 as being a 'bad game'. The same way a lot of movies that score 7.5 or so on IMDB or 75% on rotten Tomatoes are still awesome movies.
Watch dogs 2 is better in every way but only gets .1 higher
Humn.... Maybe it's because, Watch dogs came out on 2014 and we're in 2016???
James Romita irrelevant
ChrisGol14 Sure. Release a triple A game with Good ps1 graphics and mechanics then pray for the 10/10
James Romita Watch dogs 2 has some of the best graphics we've seen.
Niqualio are you actually dumb
Not only did you finally finish this review after literally EVERYONE else had already done so, but
you also posted it on the very same day I platinum'd the game.
What a great help you are...
Loll
Watch Dogs 2 paycheck received
And they had to wait 10 days for that check to clear. ;)
***** agreed 👍
***** well gta v didn't have gta online until way after launch and people weren't bitching about that like little girls
they did make it clear that it wasn't going to be available until a month after release way before launch, which is why people didn't whine like girls.
J-Walker Official because GTA 5 single player mode is way better than Watch Dogs 2
Shoutout to who made this game me being a San Francisco bay area native it just soooo satisfying seein this game and I definitely just downloaded it recently it still holds up years later 🌁💪🏾
Who's here after getting it free on the Epic store?
me
I am curious, what Text to Speech program is IGN using? Interesting.
This Game feels much More Fun.The Map is Huge no matter how it looks , The more you explore it, the bigger it starts to become. I didn't Mind the Side Characters ( Dedsec) and I thought they were quite fun. I really liked Marcus as a character. Driving may be a Little Arcady, But it's definitely better than the first one. Violence isn't at all what you're supposed to do( this isn't GTA . Hey I love GTA Btw), It's All Stealth and There's Obviously the hacking. The hacking is... Really really Great and I loved it. Overall I loved the introduction of such a 'Genre' in the open-world games and Guys, This isn't GTA( Again?!) . I think I should conclude by saying the game deserves to get a good 9 or something around that but not so low as an 8.5 ;-)
Plus the Parkour is amazing
I 100% agree
In the cut scenes Marcus comes off as this "kid-friendly", gentle natured hipster.
But then 2 mins later you can run into a park and start gunning down police, women and dogs. It just didn't fit well with the character they're trying to develop.
But then again I guess beggers can't be choosers. Because if they took away leathal weapons people would still complain.
But anyways I've only played about 6 hours of gameplay I'm up to mission where you steal the night rider car. So far I like the game much better than the first. But still needs improvement. The cars look plastic, & the collision damage is unrealistic, the pistols are too balky they look like giant bricks in your hand, missions repetitive (break into a secure area, hack something, then get away)
I give it 7.5 out of 10
Kind of a shame, gta 5 came out in 2013 and is still light years better than majority of open world games recently released
Midnight Justice Your not forced to go on killing sprees ever though. The whole game can be beat without killing anyone. Your bias is showing also. GTA 5 got hella repetitive and the only way to complete missions was the guns blazing approach
SuperMicklovin true
When I said GTA was better I wasn't necessarily talking about missions. I just meant the overall fun factor. You can still jump into a gta lobby and it'll be full of players having FUN. Unlike games like division, watch dogs etc. that only lasted a few months then got boring and repetitive.
Not to mention gta still pumping out FREE dlc- game modes/cars/guns that keeps the game fresh.
GTA4 and San Andreas are much better than 5. Much more mission variety, more realistic acting(and likeable)characters, and writing that makes some sense.
Atleast WD2 has a bunch of different ways to play. GTA5 is the same throughout.
When ppl say San Andreas is the best, they're just speaking from nostalgia. It was the best of that era but cmon be realistic it doesn't hold a candle to V. The graphics, dialogue, map size, mission variety, character swap option, gta5 is better in every way. Even tho San Andreas was great and will hold a place in our hearts.
It's like when ppl say Jordan is the best, no he was the best of his era. But be realistic he won't stand a chance against today's ball players. Westbrook, lebron, Kwai Leonard, KD etc. would destroy 90s Jordan
The Marcus guy actually looks like Marcus Rashford........
no he doesn't!
first2blast he does!
Whoa, he does!
Reading from a paper in one constant volume, at one constant pitch, at one constant rhythm. Definitely a robot...
So basically it's like Assassin's Creed II. Hopefully UbiSoft doesn't drain the life out of this franchise with yearly sequels.
next game :
watch dogs brotherhood
The SureFire Gamer
They will.
The SureFire Gamer I don't think they could there's a lot that would need to go into each one
Oh they will.
Watch Dogs 3 or Watch Dogs Unity... now THAT's something i want to see
The one thing I don't like is that you can only carry three weapons. But is there a way to carry more?
Ray McMeme you have to buy them from the 3D printer in the Hackerspace
AllThings Gaming yeah I know that but how do you put more guns in the other slots?
Ah okay. So only two guns and your taser?
I think that was a good decision because the tone of the game, as mentioned in the interview, encourages stealth gameplay and gives you more tools to be stealthy than to go in guns blazing.
Watch dogs 2 is easily one of my favorite games of all time.
why
To this day WD2 has one of the most dynamic worlds gaming has to offer @@indethbed2546
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What I do like about the game is the open world. It's beautiful and cool to explore San Francisco. Kinda what I do in this game anyway.
I like that they didn't rush the review out
One of the best games on ps4...I could not stop playing it even after beating the game with platinum trophy. Not deep as GTA but it is significantly better than it as it is not created in a way that traps you with silly repeatitive missions and if you stop play the slow pacing game that requires you either to play for million hours to gain money or choosing the short cut buy buying money shark.
Good review.. Quick pick straight to the point, no time wasted here... Thumbs up..
Improved almost everything from the first game
Gives it 0.1 higher...
Let me guess, 1 dollar short on the paycheck right?
Most underrated open world game ever
In my opinion this game should at least be a 9.0/10. The story and a few bugs are the only problems with the game. The gameplay is fun and smooth, the game looks beautiful at times, and most of the side quests are fun as hell
The graphics are great but I always want good gameplay and in that aspect WD2 did not dissapoint. It is a fantastic game and a upgrade over the first WD in nearly every way.
If it is better in EVERY way, then why is it only 0.1 better than the first one?!
TheAngryBoi time
because our standards have improved from 2 years ago
SuperSaiyan3985 not with me?
SuperSaiyan3985 its all good, mate.
SuperSaiyan3985 My short, simple, "blanket" answer was meant to be understood as "the passage of time" and include such thoughts as "our standards, or our expectations, have simply changed with the passage of time." Because everything changes with time. Opinions are subjective, you know? There's no constant template for reviewing games, time changed everything.
It's not as though you're the same person you were two years ago, you're probably not even the same person you were six months ago.
This game is awesome. Definitely one of my favorite games of the year.
A 9/10 for me
Watchdogs:Millennials
Ok boomer
What's next? An "Empire Strikes Back" review?
IGN: "I just can't see Marcus as a killer"
me: **shoots dogs**
YOU MONSTER
"It's a significant improvement from the first Watchdogs in nearly every way"
*gives .1 higher score
1 score is a lot and can really impact the ratings
Eh... ya I don't think 1/10 of a point will make a difference lol
Ryan Nichols are you dumb. If we make these inter percentages that is 10%. You may not no this but that is alot. And mostly if its from a trash game that was horrible.
Thomas Hwang Lol, you may not know this, but Watch Dogs got a 8.4 while Watch Dogs 2 got a 8.5
+Thomas Hwang No, it was a .1 difference
i would have given watchdogs 2 a 9 instead of a 8.5 Like IGN did
Unlike alot of people i loved one, and i honestly think that it would be really cool if in a few months they threw in aiden as a playable character in a dlc because hes just a memorable character and to play as him in watch dogs 2 with all the new hacks would be fun and interesting especially if he teamed up with characters like wrench and marcus in a few missions
online invasion saved watchdogs 1. watchdogs 2 is a huge step up... loving it... the map is so under rated. amazing incredible detailed world .
My favorite thing about this game was the parkour moves and the clothing
First one was great imo, second one improves in everyway...just dont go in expecting a gta type game just cause its free roam and youll like it
While I can respect the gameplay improvements, I do feel that it is worth mentioning it’s biggest flaw: optimization. More specifically, optimization on the pc. As is the case with many Ubisoft games, there are noticeable and significant dips in performance throughout the game. Still, though, if you’re willing to turn down the settings (a LOT) then it’s still a fun experience
This game is much better than watch dogs legion
True
Here after it got a 60 FPS boost for Series X & S consoles. Definitely playing this game now
Since when did Urkel become such a killer hacker and murderer?
gamemastertricks I can't believe this is the first time I see someone compare Marcus to Steve.
I was expecting Marcus to say "Did I do that?" every time he blows up a car or kill someone LOOOOL
8.5 hmm well, next week it release on PC. Lets see how the optimisation goes..
pc ver still 8.5
It's Ubisoft, so you can bet good money on the initial PC release being abysmal.
I Was Right Once Idk. It seems they pushed it back to give it optimization.
I still can't stand Dan Stapleton's monotonous narration
yeah it was just boring
Wait, it was a person? I thought they used some sort of programme.
It’s funny how San Francisco is sunny even though it’s not irl
I just wish the group of characters had a more serious and focused personality. But that’s just me.
This is one of my favorite childhood games lol
I swear to God every ign video has a ad
use ad blocker
Sirmel11 can't for my phone
Yep it's ridiculous. This is the first one I found that didn't have a 30 second unskippable ad so I watched this
Troupe Goal ad blocker, what's wrong with you
Almost every video on youtube has an ad.
which game looks best this or wildlands
wildlands
I have done like half the game and only killed 2 guys. You don't have to kill
Why did you kill the two guys
finally
I have been waiting for this review
8.5 IGN
CAN'T HACK THE DOGS
The first Watch Dogs is so much better...
The cinematic effects, focus modes, mini games, train hacking. I just have way more fun with the first one.
Zhan Wei Goh nah wd 2 is much better got bored after the first mission of wd1
Ubisoft deserved 9.0 at the VERY LEAST
Its nice to see this get a good review.
So because the reviewer is bad at stealth games he always ended up on a mass murder spree and that conflicts with the cut-scenes ? Just because he chose to play that way doesn't mean it conflicts with the cut-scenes he made the gameplay conflict.
Hir0h It actually really does when an enemy sees you for literally 1.5 second and every other enemy just comes raining down on you and calls on reinforcements that arrive in 5 seconds. Also, the murdering of cops and others isn't the only inconsistency in Marcus character.
Bleach Sippers oh, and I'm guessing you've played the entire game from start to finish? Beat all the missions? Its not even about getting spotted. Some of the traps you set are downright lethal. And yea....its my choice as the player to kill. But, the fact that its even an option is what's messed up. Guess you've never played the splinter cell games....the old ones, where they literally failed you on missions if you killed at times. Just giving the players the choice to kill when they could have maximized non-lethal mechanics, when the game is not choice based, and the action is inconsistent with the character is just dumb.
My problem is that the reviewer thinks the only option to getting detected is killing everyone and then he complains about it not matching the character he could have just as easily run away or hid from the enemies. the reviewer himself created the inconsistancy he complained about.
2:03 Maybe it's UA-cam compression, but that looks like a Dreamcast game.
Trust me, it's one of best looking games for now. Atleast on PC tho, but this really is a heavy game. I have a 1660ti and I still can't go above Ultra settings (ie HFTS Shadows and TXAA enabled) without getting stuck with 45fps with drops to 35.
lol what
I loved the game, i have 8000 hours on it :)
It seems like the game is written around playing it non-lethal but it must include gunplay because it's a AAA videogame mimicking GTA. It's on sale now with a bundle including it and Watch Dogs 1 so I'm considering it.
Same here. The bundle seems tempting.
Lol waited to see what the public consensus about the game was...then wrote a review around that.
I’m telling you guys rn. If you play this like a stealth game on every mission. It’s one of the best stealth games of all time
Probably going to buy PC-version at somepoint, but not with fullprice.
Darthadios greenmangaming has it for around half full price
Darthadios pc version is the worst
Carl Wåger instant gaming is cheaper
awesome1ru
Tell me more
Which should i get premium or standard?