The Chosen Scene Causing Controversy And Dallas’ Response- Our Thoughts
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- ‘The Chosen Scene Season 2 Episode 5 Causing Controversy And Dallas Jenkins Response- Our Thoughts’
This is interesting. Let me start by saying we’ve been fans of The Chosen ever since watching the POWERFUL scene where Jesus redeems Mary in episode one. Now fast forward to episode 5 of season two. The Chosen has taken some criticism for a decision they made regarding Mary’s character and storyline. Dallas Jenkins, the director of the show, addressed the criticism head-on in a recent UA-cam video. We have some positive takeaways and some concerns. Here’s our thoughts, let us know yours in the comments :)
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Hey P&M Fam, comment below where you stand on either “Mary’s backsliding” or Dallas’ response video and the issue of Christians sinning regularly.
Check Dallas’ full response video and our The Chosen Vlog linked in the description :)
This was an irresponsible thing for Dallas to say to people who watch Jesus on TV. They may not be bible readers. It hurts me to see people be afraid of their sins because they are forgiven. Try standing up for righteousness because of the Holy Ghost. Your sins can poison your relationship with Jesus
@Paul and Morgan I like that you chose to open this discussion rather than spit criticism at Dallas for this, very commendable. Also, I agree with most of the points you 2 made. Also,
Romans 7:23 says this -But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
So like Morgan said, we are in a battle and while as God's special people we should aim for holiness by all means necessary, we will falter occasionally because there is a war within ourselves, with our flesh and our soul.
So you're right, if we mention our struggle with sin, as Dallas did, we should also mention our fight to overcome it.
Whaaaaaat? Paul is actually IN the Bible and encouraging people to read better (and more) in order to understand what they believe? Well done. Finally, some for real Christian content. Keep it up.
Morgan, why do you have a tattoo? Don’t you know that your body is a temple? I thought you would know that because your such a hard core Christian…. Also, why aren’t you pregnant!
Wow, I'm surprised at the level of discernment you two showed in this video
Appreciate this thoughtful and deep approach! To be clear…Dallas would never imply that sin is to be accepted as okay because we do it regularly. And as you see in Episode 6, Mary needed to return, and she needed to repent.
Dallas just can’t cover all the topics in each video, and The Chosen can’t cover the totality of each issue in each episode.
If you’d like to talk to Dallas on the show, he’d be happy to come on and put your mind at ease. :) Let us know.
Hey, It’s good to hear from you guys! That sounds good, let’s have him on :) Drop us an email at paulandmorganshow@gmail.com and let’s make this happen!
@@PaulandMorgan yes!!! It needs to happen ♥️
I just think the forgiveness of sins , the gospel , jesus' indenty in us and his mission in us is the one topic that jesus requires us to cover every singel time
@@PaulandMorgan Paul and Morgan, I think it's great if you have Dallas on the show to talk about the Chosen but frankly don't drag him on the show to ask him to "Put your mind at ease" to discuss this. It is abundantly obvious that Dallas does not condone sin.
No offense to all of you but if you had done research on him or just continued to watch the chosen you would be abundantly aware that the Disciples are asked to do a lot for Jesus.
Dallas' point is obviously to say that people can backslide whether they've experienced Jesus or not. It is not to say that because people sin it's okay.
To be blunt: Having him on when his team has already answered and clarified for you what he means is unprofessional and ungraceful.
You keep saying "We're obviously not saying your perfect" and yet because Dallas says you sin all the time he has a "Soft view of Sin". Which is wrong. We are sinners....sorry to disappoint you. You're not saying anything different then what Dallas is saying.
Have him on but don't put him on trial to ask him a question that you should already know the answer to.
Get together and talk about other things but not this.
@@theinvestigativemillennial9381 I do think he took the Romans passage out of context so the criticism/ concern was not completely unwarranted.
If I’m going to be honest I’m one of those Christians who have backslide and slipped up in sin.😬Even after I was touched by Jesus. I agreed what Dallas was saying. But see why it might have converses.
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Cindy, please forsake your sin and return with a whole heart or Hell awaits!
@@larevival4074 oh I did ! I probably should have word it better is I have backslide before but was able to turn around (:
I look back even 1 hour ago and how much I backslide. Dallas' description is the best Ive ever heard. I have hope even though I fall regularly.
@@drchrissecrist God provides the grace we need to keep us from backsliding. Please spend time daily in the Word and prayer to strengthen your spirit so you can withstand temptation. 🙏
Backsliding is a reality, I appreciate that they added that into The Chosen.
I agree
Makes it more REALISTIC not this Christian fantasy that we are now perfect.
100%
Impatient to see how Jesus Himself would have deal with her, I mean an idea of how these things were handled because Jesus was with them but the Holy Spirit wasn't yet in them, which increases chance of backsliding now that I am thinking about it 🤔. So I am happy they went that path, they make disciples etc look more real than the old films that were good too
“So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves.” Galatians 5:16
Making a mistake that is sinful is one thing, backsliding is a whole other story. if a Christian is truly in a backslidden state, then they have to ask their self, “Am I fully surrendered to God”, because if I am, I’m no longer a slave to a sin nature. And I’m not talking about being perfect, I’m talking about being free!
I honestly think Dallas was being hyperbolic. I didn't take it like he sins ALL the time, literally. Or that Paul sinned every single time he got a chance to. I think he was just making a point.
Appreciate the perspective :)
I think the same, I don't think he is saying we all sin and bla bla bla, but I agree the way he said it can be misinterpreted by some. Anyway I am happy to see them display honest but real imperfect people instead of flawless christians especially before they were full of the Holy Spirit
There’s a reason Jesus told people to go and «sin no more».. As christians, sin should grieve us because we know it grieves the father.
To just be sayin that «oh well but I’m a sinner and am gonna continue sinning» is just an excuse to not take responsibility over Your own sin because Jesus quote «loves me and died for me, so I dont have to do anything».
In Jesus we have the transforming power to live Holy as He is Holy.
Am I saying that there wont be hard moments and things that will test our faith, No. But we should always watch and pray, so we don’t fall into temptation.
Wow, appreciate the strong words. Good stuff🙏
Yes .
Paul, I liked that you read scripture in this video! I agree with both of your thoughts on this. A lot of people confuse what Paul is explaining in those chapters. I love how he basically is just saying this is the struggle in our flesh BUT through Jesus we no longer have to be a slave to sin. I love that :)
Right on, Candace😊 Thanks for sharing!
Growing with God is a spiritual journey and with every milestone you let go of who you were to be someone new. Reborn.
I agree with you guys! Thank you for addressing the seriousness of sin. You spoke so clearly and biblically. I know that backsliding, dryness, or distance can be a reality, but it isn't something a Christian should expect or take lightly. It's sad and important to get back to growing in Christ.
Amen, I like the way you said that❤️🙏
My teacher in Bible school used to say "it is natural for a believer to sin less and less", and in that you can still mess up, but as you become more and more sanctified you sin less and less.
I have full confidence in Dallas’ vision for the show. I actually appreciate the direction he’s taking with Mary because of what I’ve experienced in my own life and how much I identify with her. No one, no matter how deep-rooted of a believer you are has never not sinned again in some way after being saved. Not to say that once you’re a believer your sinful actions are excused for you to intentionally continue to sin, but that when you fall into temptation, Jesus still loves you, will be there for you, to REDEEM you from that sin and cleanse you from it. Granted the cleansing process is just that, a PROCESS but Jesus within us is what changes our hearts and in turn our hearts desires. With that said I trust that God is moving and alive through Dallas, his team of writers, and the cast to portray Jesus in a new and tangible way.
Appreciate you sharing😊
I love that Paul is so vulnerable about sin. The fact that we see a lot of people in the Bible fall into sin and “backslide” I think it’s cool to see that they put it into the chosen. Saul, Samson, Peter, David, the list goes on. I think God shows us these people so that we can see his redeeming and merciful love despite our sinning nature. The Bible is a story of hope. Does Mary then realize she’s let her flesh win in the chosen? What a cool story of hope that God wins despite her moment of turning away from him.
Appreciate the comment :)
THIS IS 100% TRUE. Please be encouraged and know that everything you said here is RIGHT-ON and so biblical. Amen and amen.
Thank you🙏😊
Hi Paul & Morgan! So here is my thoughts…
Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with what they did with Mary Magdalene, because personally I was caught in terrible sin as a young child-I fell into it even after being saved-and I stopped for three years…only to backslide again. That same year I backslid though, the Lord really delivered me of my sin-praise the Lord, for His mercy in pulling me out and taking me on a journey of purification afterward!-, therefore I totally get what happened to Mary Magdalene! I actually also agreed with Dallas’ response video, though I also see and agree with what you guys are saying. Just because there is grace, does not mean we can keep sinning, but also like Paul said, we do sometimes fall to sin, even though we try our best not to; but we should always resist sin and like Morgan said, say “no” to the flesh!
And I’m definitely praying for Dallas and the team, that they’d continue in God’s wisdom and under His protection so that the devil cannot lead them astray, because the tons of critic against this show (stupid critic that came even before the controversy on Mary Magdalene’s backsliding) is a sign that soo many people are being pulled out of the devil’s darkness because of this show, and the enemy hates that. I totally get what happened to Mary Magdalene in the show, just cause it happened to me. I also appreciated Dallas’ response and I believe his heart is right and that he’d probably agree with y’all (maybe he just didn’t think of the other Scriptures in the moment as he focused on the topic and why they did what they did), but I also appreciate your response, because some people might take what Dallas said the wrong way as license to sin, when we still always have to crucify the flesh when we’re tempted to sin. 💁🏻♀️😁✝️
Episode 6 clarifies Dallas’s belief about sinning after salvation - Mary’s slide back into sin is different to before salvation as she is now armed with the strength to withdraw from sin and is now more prepared to fight sin sooner/ will more ready to see the early signs as she continues her walk - more typical of being a young in the faith believer.
Voddie Baucham once said that the longer he's been a Christian, the more he knows of his sin. I don't think Dallas was softening sin, rather it's likely his point was to convict Christians who think they barely ever sin and comfort Christians who feel like their sin is keeping them from God.
Like how Proverbs tells us that singing songs to a troubled heart is not good, there are some words for one circumstance and others for other circumstances. Some people need to hear of the immense evil sin is, while other people need to hear that other Christians sin and God even still forgives and loves them. This episode was for the latter.
Wow, where do I begging lol😅 the process God has allowed me to go through didn’t make much sense to me in the beginning. I won’t get into details to protect other brothers and sisters but I now stand stronger in God than before. My faith has grown in ways I didn’t expect. I’ve learned the love of God and faithfulness more than I thought it was. His mercy hit me a newer levels! I struggled in my flesh while my spirit and souls worship God. A year later, the reality and UNDERSTANDING (diff. From knowing) of what it truly is like to be free from sin even when temptation and sin seems to surround you, it doesn’t not. We are no longer to slave. We may struggle but it cannot take us down. It will not take you down. It may seem like it surrounds your entire life but the God almighty is the one really fighting even if you feel like your struggles have pushed God away. God never leaves and God never forsakes. Don’t look at what you are seeing but walk by faith. Don’t let fear crush your faith. Don’t let confusion and lie and don’t punish yourself because you are freeeeee! Jesus death was not in vein. He has risen and sin no longer holds you in chains. Trust in him. Trust in him! Don’t let fear choke out the faith that God has given you. God enjoys to strengthen us! When you focus all your focus on trusting God, you are strengthen to turn from sin. It has nothing to how much we know and leaning on our own knowledge and how strong we can try to be. It comes from God and comes from focusing on him. That’s why we gotta pray because you show you depend on him. Seek the kingdom first and everything will follow.
Appreciate you sharing🙏
I can totally understand that episode and Mary's situation. There are so many Christians who backslides. I can feel it.
I was on the verge of backsliding but God saved me.
I've seen many people backslide from God. And then came back to Jesus.
And, once saved is NOT always saved.
we NEED to repent of our sins every minute and every time. that's it.
I love the commentary on here, thank you for grounding your words in the truth of GOD'S Word♥️Be blessed.
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Hi P&M! Thank you for giving fresh perspective/wider context on this. However, maybe something else to consider is that at this point in the story, Jesus had not been crucified and raised to life yet, thus not fulfilling some of the later scriptures yet? Just a question to consider. I would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks again for all you guys do! 🙏🏼🙌🏼
I liked this video! 😊 I’ve been convicted of this theology/idea recently. I often hear people say we’re sinning constantly and everything we do is bad/twisted and that we’re all dirty and gross (and i even thought that) but the Word says that we’re holy and blameless in His sight when we’ve been justified through Jesus and Romans 6 and 8 are awesome chapters for knowing our new, TRUE identity! 🥺
Love that, thanks for sharing Cassie😊🙏
Amen we look like jesus . The church is not sliding back and forth the whole time , we are transforming in to absolute perfection , the pure bride .
I was just reading Romans 6,7,8 today morning. I was going through a repetitive life of lukewarm and I hated myself so much for not being able to fully give myself to God. Then I learned from these verses that we can't earn God's love by our own strength. Romans 6:7 says, NLT: "For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin." Trusting in His ressurection and His righteousness is what enable us to overcome our flesh.
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“There is a difference in making mistakes that are sinful, and backsliding. If you are in a backslidden state, then you really have to check where your heart is and where your relationship with God is. The question then becomes, are you fully surrendered or not??
“So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves.” Galatians 5:16
“We know that our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin. For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin.”
Romans 6:6-7
Appreciate you sharing🙏
We still struggle with sin when come to Christ. So many believers in the bible struggled. I appreciated Dallas video. I appreciate this video. I like how they put this in The Chosen is they make it REALITY. I came to Christ and fell away for 10 years in addiction and Jesus still held on. 4 years clean now. It's a process and boundries. You can never be too far for God to pull you back.
Appreciate you sharing :)
@@PaulandMorgan I always feel like when I see the smiley face its Morgan. Not that Paul doesn't have a wonderful smile! 😏🤣 just it's a female thing. I dont know too many males that add a :) 😅 love y'all
Adding and subtracting from the bible is dangerous. I have always been a little skeptical of Jesus movies. Backsliding isn't mentioned in the New Testament.
Yes people can sin but there will be a price to pay
I hear you🙏
21:00 is very eye opening. Our flesh wants to sin but it's a constant spiritual war. Thank you guys!!
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When did y’all switch from dating and marriage videos to culture and social issues? I love the new vids, just curious!!
Like a year ago ❤️
About a year or so ago😊
@@PaulandMorgan well I love it! Thank you guys for all you do! ♥️♥️
Yes Morgan and Paul‼️ I have been standing on 1 Corinthians 10:13 as The Lord is walking me through overcoming things he has opened by eyes to that he wants gone from me. So yes, we sin, but as The Lord opens our eyes and convicts us of those sins, we are supposed to submit to the healing, deliverance, correction The Lord wants to do in our lives- so that Christ will be formed in us more fully. Amen 💯.
I think it's important for a TV show that deals with the Gospel to bring up things like backsliding. It's something that happens to every Christian, so it's good to talk about it. Yes, absolutely, strive to walk in holiness, but admit that you can fall. God knows we will fall, and repentance is a part of the journey of holiness... Also, she isn't literally a Christian yet, not as we know Christianity. The Spirit isn't living in her yet, so He isn't able to do the restorative work in her life. 😊 Just some thoughts! Thanks for an interesting discussion! 😊
Good thoughts, thanks for sharing :)
Can always count on you guys to take a mature, balanced approach to these issues 🙌🏼 Appreciate your concerns which I too share
I think Morgan hit fire around minute 13. My family is split (mostly against) in opinions on the series as a whole. It is interesting hearing your opinions on it. I find Dallas' intentions to be good, but I sincerely wonder if the whole thing isn't a bit dangerous. It gives us these ideas about how the disciples were and how Jesus was, and I don't know that we are supposed to know that. When I read the Bible I don't like how I suddenly see Dallas' vision for Peter, Levi, Mary, etc. I want Holy Spirit to give me insight into who these people were/are not a TV show. It's not Biblical, and it takes a whole lot of liberties. YES, it can be impactful... maybe for some, eternally (not for me to say). My biggest concern is that people will be deceived into a lie because good intentions don't always produce good results. (As you pointed out in refuting Dallas' response video) It is sad to me that most Christians are raised to believe that they are supposed to struggle with sin. Thank you for speaking truth from the Bible on that! I wanted to like the series, but this just makes me more certain my family is right in staying away. I don't think Jesus needs a TV show to make Him relatable.
Really interesting thoughts, I appreciate you sharing :)
i WANT Holy Spirit to give me etc? It's THE Holy Spirit. He does not talk about himself as if he is a separate person. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of the Lord.
People are misinterpreting the show as a direct translation of the Bible. It is not and the producer has said that many times over. It is a show folks about what it'd would be like in those times when Jesus walked the earth, one person's imagination.
I think it is a wonderful show and will bring many to Jesus
Yes, we struggle as believers with old sins, unfortunately the enemy knows our past and uses it again us. I don’t believe we stay sinning because the Holy Spirit will Continue to work in us, but that doesn’t mean we will not fall sometimes.
And speaking specifically about the Chosen episode, if we really think about it, in those days, even though they were walking with Jesus, they did not have the power of the Holy Spirit within them. That’s the same reason why all of the disciples denied Jesus before the crucifixion. Not that they didn’t believe in him, but in their human nature, and without the power of the Holy Spirit within them…it’s easy to fall back into old habits.
But as with everything else, the fact that it is a TV show, even though it’s portraying the life of Jesus, they are trying to incorporate parts of the story that we don’t really know anything about, and I’m OK with that, again because that’s what a TV show is for, for me the most important part is that as long as they don’t change what is essential for salvation and the truth of the gospel, I see it as a good TV. Show.
And yes, we should always go back to the Bible, read the full chapter, so we don’t get things out of context. And always pray for discernment, even if we’re watching a TV show, or a sermon at a church. That’s the precious power of the Holy Spirit within us. I do believe we are no longer slaves to sin, because we surrender our lives to Christ, but the enemy is going to continue to try and push us towards sin, but it doesn’t mean that we have to surrender to that, God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power love and self-control. And that’s the difference of having the Holy Spirit in our lives.
But Jesus told the woman at the well, go, and sin no more. He knew we could overcome this with his power in our lives, not perfection, but Is a continuing sanctification process. 🥰🙏🏼
It's interesting that he talked about backsliding to begin with because many people think once saved always saved and you can never ever not be saved even if you deny God intentionally and directly. But... The fact he believes people HAVE to sin every day.. what would be the purpose of being saved if we are literally the same person???
Appreciate the comment :)
I love the verse that says we are holy because he is Holy. This has recently become one of my favourite verses the truth is that am a mess but the more I've gotten to know the holy God the more I want to be like him so I choose to live a life that honour him I love the thought of being holy and I want to be holy plus I think that black sliding is an important topic to talk about
those kinda sounds like hyper grace in my opinion. so scary cause it sounds right, but its not. thats hyper-grace.
well.. seems like the world-or evil maybe we can called-, try to strive us and the believers into somewhat right but wrong actually. i came here after watched you guys reaction for halley and the other girl talk about their faith. i know its not really common topics, but it looks almost the same, like we're sometimes being deceive by the evil with that close references. cause thats how the evil works, to deceive, he is the father of deceive. so glad you guys can talk about this. continue spreading the truth. always love what you guys do.
and actually.. im like really can relate all Paul and Morgan said here. it's really open my mind and touch me so deep about my struggle on falling into sin. thank you for that . im blessed 🤍
Thanks for sharing🙏
You guys are absolutely right. Paul’s writing style included him speaking as someone who is struggling. He isn’t saying he sins all the time. He’s showing the answer to someone who is sinning all of the time. We are not called to fight the good fight against sin but the good fight of faith. If we believe that we will struggle in sin for the rest of our lives WE WILL but if we believe what the Bible says, that we are free from slavery to sin then we will also as the word says “walk as Jesus walked” free from sin and happily enslaved to righteousness.
The man who was demonized had the same demons Mary had. That becomes evident by their conversation when he says “they told me so many stories about you.” She was confronting her old demons literally, which is something we all face. I used to be a drug addict and a witch before I gave my life to Christ, so I really appreciate them showing this in the show.
How does it confront you still? Or does it daily? Iam asking because my husband was a drug addict in the past and wonder what he goes tru!?
Love it guys! Way to dive deep in scripture. Romans in its entirety pretty much lays out the power of the gospel and love camping in it from time to time. Let’s not be afraid to ask the uncomfortable questions
Thanks Alex, good stuff!
Have you all though about doing a video on any Mormon influence on The Chosen? Specifically the interview Dallas did with Melissa Dougherty
Anyone studying narcissism should watch this video. If you want to know how to spot a narcissist this guy is the best example I’ve ever seen. Feel bad for his poor wife. Seen him repeatedly shut her down and repress her. If it weren’t for the her being brainwashed in the “faith” shed run from him. Hope she finds her way out of this. ❤️
This will be interesting! 🙏 I agree with Dallas, i understand what he is saying, and it is true, maybe he could have presented the two sides of the coin more clearly (trying to grow and stop sinning, while being aware that we will still struggle with it) 🤔❤🤗
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Paul didn’t say he sins all the time. He says there is a struggle between his flesh and his spirit that when he tries to do good, he finds evil is present. Those 2 are not the same and especially his final conclusion with that topic, which is that Christ will redeem him from this wretched state that he is in and make him a new creation not only in this world but in the world to come. Christians should stop using that as an excuse to sin because John says whoever is in Christ does not make a practice of sinning. Now it’s one thing to fall like David or Abraham or all those people... it’s a whole different thing to say, "I sin all the time”
Appreciate the comment :)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Paul and Morgan! While I haven't been keeping up with The Chosen myself, I strongly and wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said.
I actually wanted to touch on something you mentioned briefly in this video: the part where Mary Magdalene takes off her head covering. As a Christian single woman who didn't grow up wearing the head covering but now wears one (by personal choice, after some study of 1 Corinthians 11 and much wrestling with God about it 😅), I was intrigued when you brought this up and decided to go watch the scene myself for a bit of context. Here's what I know about the teachings of the head covering and why that one choice by Mary was so significant:
Back in Bible times, Jewish women were taught to wear a head covering as a symbol of submission to their husbands (or fathers if they were single and of marriageable age, though obviously most women in the OT and NT were married off rather quickly). It also became a cultural sign of sexual purity, as the Gentile women - especially harlots and prostitutes - were known for having their hair uncovered and flowing freely (though there were some exceptions to this, as we see in the story of Tamar when she dresses as a harlot and covers her hair and face to hide her identity from Judah). We can kind of see this cultural symbolism in Numbers 5: if a married woman was being accused by her husband of sexual immorality, she was to stand in front of all the people, allow the priest to remove her head covering, and drink the bitter water as a sign of whether she was guilty or innocent (cf. Numb. 5:11-31, especially v. 18).
All of this is significant in the case of Mary for multiple reasons. When she first approaches the man at the door and asks to speak with someone specific, the doorkeeper initially turns her away and tells her to go home because she "seems like a nice girl." Based on the culture of that time, I'm guessing this was in part due to her choice in clothing - including wearing a head covering. Considering the next thing Mary does is take off her head covering, and considering this is the point where the doorkeeper begins to take her seriously, this would make sense. Of course, this isn't the only reason why removing the head covering is so significant for Mary. Remember: Mary Magdalene is being portrayed as a former prostitute who's been sexually abused. As I mentioned earlier, harlots and prostitutes especially were known for having their hair down and being wild and seductive with it. That one decision by Mary was a real turning point in her choosing to go back to her old lifestyle - at least for the moment.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts! I'm actually considering going back and (re)watching The Chosen now as a result of this video. 😊
Paul, Dallas is not taking a soft approach to sin. I hate to break it to you but unless you believe that you are perfect in the hear and now in your flesh you are going to sin. Get used to it, at least until you go to Heaven. That's something that even you acknowledge in this video.
Dallas doesn't need to hear that "You need to pick up your cross daily" just because he acknowledges that sin has happened and will continue to happen.
Also Paul refers to himself as the "Chief of sinners" not I "was" but I AM the cheif of sinners 1 Timothy 1:15 -
Paul did still sin after he was saved that's not really up for debate.
It's not "giving yourself an excuse" it's being realistic. Do you have any idea how many people lose their faith and just give up because of trying to be too perfect?
It doesn't matter if that's your intention it's what you are doing by teaching this doctrine. Sin is separating you from God? No. We have imputed righteousness....God does not look on you as a sinner because he sees Christ in you, no matter what.
Yes we are still called to repentance obviously, dallas doesn't deny that.
In 2nd Corinthians, Paul talks about having a thorn in his flesh that torments him and keeps him from being proud. Maybe that was what Dallas was referencing, too?
Also I personally don’t think Dallas was by any means excusing sin or condoning abusing God’s grace. I feel he was trying to explain that real people fall short and through Christ alone can we be redeemed
Appreciate the perspective :)
I totally agree with what you guys are saying. Jesus hates sin, and He wants us to hate sin also! He can give us the power to overcome sin!! Amen!!
Paul wasn’t saying he is sinning all the time. He said that used to be the case. He is talking a about his unregenerated self before Jesus. So yeah I’m not with Dallas on that passage. It’s taken out of context. Yes we are not completely without sin in our life’s but of course we are supposed to overcome sin and a sinful lifestyle.
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I was literally watching and before the audio cut out thought “I wonder if they ever watch it back before cutting it and go “I could say that more succinctly” hahaha.
Anyway, really good thoughts! I didn’t have a problem with the episode & thought there were enough tells throughout that someone should have really checked on Mary to make sure she was ok. I think it actually just showed how the other disciples are all learning too and would make mistakes like overlooking what was going on (coz I know we all do in certain situations) with Mary and focusing on themselves. I think it also highlights when people feel on the edge of a group and how easy it is for people to lose sight of them. There was a lot more underlying to it than people are discussing, that’s for sure. Like Matthew picked up she wasn’t ok, but hadn’t a moment to check on her before the demoniac & Simon was the first to realize she was gone, even though Ramah was told to look for her.
The part that disturbed me wasn’t Mary messing up, it was Jesus’s response when she returned. He said, “I don’t require much,” that is completely the opposite of the Bible. Jesus says we must die to self and take up our cross. Yes, it can be very hard because he requires every part of us and dying to self requires everything. So yeah, that one response was a bummer.
Yes! Jesus says "And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell." and "Deny yourself and take up your cross daily".
But the Jesus they show is a lukewarm one who doesn't really care if we sin and our sin cannot possibly separate us from Him.
@@dimitartodorov4826 Wow, you are the only one who responded to what I said… It’s been three months. I pray more people see both of our responses because it’s the truth and people want a Jesus made in their own image were they can get comfortable with sin. This is why Jesus said broad is the way that leads to destruction. There are many “different“ Jesus’s being preached
I’ve never seen the chosen and I had no idea there was controversy. I understand where he’s coming from and I understand the train of thought behind it. It makes sense and I have no problem with it. This sort of thing happens all the time, even with me unfortunately. I’m open to all sides of the conversation though.
Man, you need to get on to watching it. It's so good!!!
@@leahgriffiths1694 I know! I’ve been told, I have it scheduled soon.
This is the best UA-cam video you guys have ever done thank you so much for putting out a fair and accurate theological examination of Romans chapter 7 sometimes you guys get a little Judgey and forget about the grace and timing of God but not this time you both did a masterful excellent job thank you so much may God bless you Hope this is a new beginning for this channel loved every minute of it
Amen P&M!! I am in agreement with you guys, the goal is to be more like Jesus - strive for holiness. I still love the Chosen, but even have a close friend that doesnt watch it because it isnt completely biblical. Stick to your convictions people 💜
Matthew 7:16-20 NLT
You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. A good tree can’t produce bad fruit, and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions.
Good stuff, Nicole😊 Thanks for sharing!
I think that there is a certain pressure applied in the fear of God. A strange oxymoron? While fear compels us, that fear is linked to the love of obedience. Complicated stuff. Appreciate the video guys!
Eww that’s deep😊
I was demonized in October and needed deliverance.... seeing that episode truly triggered me and I started having severe anxiety attack afterwards and ran to the bathroom and I started praying in my mind and scripture and I calmed down a bit and then I went and told my husband and he reacted in not so gentle way he kinda thought I was joking and laughed a bit and I started speaking to him in anger. So yeah we backslide, we sin everyday and trust me I hated it.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope that you and your husband were able to work that out. I'm so glad that you relied on God through it and please know that he will never leave you.
I was in the same boat, although I didn't react as strongly to the scene, so I feel for you. I actually disagree with the scene because of how hopeless I felt watching the scene, and as someone who has cast out demons in the past few years, I know that when encountering a demon, the last thing that comes to my mind is temptation to fall back into the things I did under demonic influence. I'm not saying I didn't backslide, because I have, but seeing someone demon possessed has only ever served as a reminder of where God has taken me from, and only strengthened my reliance on him in that moment. I just felt this scene fed into the fear that many who have dealt with demonic issues have, which is the fear that maybe God can't really keep them away, or that maybe if I slip up, I'll be back into that place. I just didn't see how that scene could be life giving. I hope you're doing well! Know that God is your strength, and he goes before and behind you to fight those battles. Much love!
Hi Paul and Morgan! I was wondering when you guys were gonna talk about The Chosen. I smile every time I see you two appear on screen in season 1 episode 5. I got to be an extra too in season 2 and I had SO MUCH FUN!
In response to what y'all talked about in this video, I really appreciate them portraying Mary backsliding. It makes her feel more real, human, and relatable. And like Dallas said, just because you believe in and follow Jesus, doesn't mean that your life is gonna be easy or perfect. Speaking from LOTS of personal experience. However, I don't think Dallas is disregarding the fact that you should run away from sin, resist temptation, or make excuses for your sin. In his video, I think he was simply trying to get the point across to people that followers of Jesus will still mess up and that it was possible that his disciples did the same. At least, that's what I took away from it when I first saw his video.
Hope you guys are enjoying season 2! I love this show so much and it has changed my faith and life in such a beautiful way. Love your videos and content. Keep up the great work! ❤️
Hey! Thanks for sharing, I hear what you are saying :) And that’s cool you got to be in the show!😄
Yessss Paul and Morgan y’all a preaching!! And breaking down those scriptures!!!🙌🏽
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I think Dallas would totally agree with you guys. I think his focus was on those implying that we can't back slide after experiencing Christ. You guys are awesome!
Personally, I am perfectly fine with the episode, I thought it was incredibly well done. I also think Dallas's response was fair. I think we took his statement about Paul very differently though. I took it as a this is what is statement. Paul did still sin despite what he preached it should be. I think Dallas's statement was simply a reasoning for why he felt it would make sense to portray Mary as backsliding, rather than a blanket statement about how we should approach sin. That being said, I want to be clear, that I fully agree with your assessment of the context of Paul's words.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Michaela😊
We expect to see what the gospels tell us (and can appreciate filling in believable back stories consistent with the culture).
We DO NOT expect to hear complete fabrications without any textual basis (even if Dallas imagines it might be a good thing).
That’s the difference.
Backsliding is easy to do. Following Jesus is not because it goes against our flesh. The Holy Spirit gives us the strength to run from sin, but there will be times when we willingly walk back into sin because it is easy. And yes, Jesus died for our sins and yes I mess up too. But I think it should not be something that you are doing daily and you just say it's okay because I'm forgiven. It is still breaking God's holy law and I would even go as far as to say it is another stripe across His back. When you think of it that way, it becomes more difficult to want to sin if you truly have a relationship with Jesus. Thank you for sharing truth Paul and Morgan!
I hope Dallas corrects his statement I totally agree with you ! We have to not let emotions be the key to speak about something as critical as what the Bible truth is about and use wisdom and discernment and Bible truth by the Holy Spirit! He needs more in how he sees truth! We have to be careful
I do love that they show Mary back slide because getting delivered and getting a completely different life, the warfare is extreme and not only are you trying to be aware of your actions and behavior but go through so much warfare of such an extremely different path. The lies that was shown like her not feeling worthy and sitting in shame that is definitely tools the enemy uses on radically saved people - so I am happy to see that! I see where you guys are coming from along with Dallas because even in our striving we are human and fall short, but yes it is not an excuse to live however:) I still love the show 😅 there is such a lack of Christian entertainment 💜
There is definitely that season of heavy sanctification and I can only imagine how hard it must have been for her figuratively speaking
I was surprised by the episode. But I thought it was done really well. I love this show. I have never watched a biblical TV show that makes me weep every single episode. And this show does. If anything this show has been instrumental in showing me that God loves me in spite of me messing up on a regular basis. I got saved when I was 8. That was 21 years ago. I still backslide occasionally. But it never lasts long. Because I get convicted and I repent.
I come into agreement with you guys!! 🙌👍
Grace - The power of the Gospel. This is a book by Andrew Wommack that just gave so much clarity and confidence for me in the grace of God and what it means to be dead to sin. I highly encourage you to read it if you haven’t. It’s basically a deep study on Romans but wow it really changed my mindset. Something that was spoken about in the book was that we need to realise that our sin nature died with Jesus and we have been given a new nature of righteousness. Then why do we still have a ‘natural tendency’ to sin? It’s because that old nature programmed our brains to think in a certain way. However, that old nature is now dead yet our minds have not been reprogrammed. That is why it is so important to constantly be renewing our mind throughout our Christian walk. We need to know that it is not our old sun nature that causes us to sin but rather an unrenewed mind. When we gave our lives to God we took on the new nature of righteousness. So we need to stop viewing ourselves as sinners saved by grace. We are not sinners anymore! We are righteous. The book says it so well. “I know now that I’m not a sinner trying to become holy. I am the righteous whom Satan is trying to make unholy. I’m not the sick trying to get well. I am the well that the devil is trying to make sick. I am not the poor trying to be prosperous. I am the prosperous that the enemy is trying to make poor. I’ve found it much easier to fight from the position of victory than to try to fight to obtain a position of victory. It’s infinitely easier to release something I already have than to go get something I don’t.” The reason we are holy and righteous has nothing to do with our actions and everything to do with God’s grace. There’s no way we can live up to the standards of the law, the law is there to point us to our need of a saviour - Jesus. We don’t choose to live holy and avoid sin because we want to be loved by God, He already loves us despite of everything we’ve done. We choose to live holy because that’s our new nature, it’s who God has created us to be and we don’t want to allow the enemy access into our lives anymore. I absolutely love the show The Chosen, it’s really made the gospels come alive for me and I must say the Mary situation didn’t even bother me, but what you guys have said makes perfect sense. You guys are really amazing and I think it’s so important for you to just be bringing truth and reminding people to not just believe everything they watch but to always refer it back to The Word and what God says. Keep doing what you doing, God has given you so much wisdom.
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Well it's not the gospel it even tells you it's not a replacement so if you're using that as a replacement I see problems with that if you're just watching it for fun I mean that's fine
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Dallas wasn't saying sin fine and condoning it with mentioning Paul struggling with sin. To act like you don't fall short everyday. Haughty spirit, favoritism, white lies, the little sins we justify. Not talking about intentionally sinning but we all do it.
No one was saying not to try to be holy but we are to do it with the help of the Holy Spirit.
Thank you Morgan for addressing the no pressure to be perfect. That is definitely the direction the first 3/4 of this video sounds like.
Couldn’t have said it better you guys :) I believe if someone who desires to truly know what walking with Christ looks like and stumbled upon y’all’s channel, they would hear the truth through your videos and passionate explanations of what a Christ centered life looks like. All the glory to the Father and the Holy Spirit for speaking through you both 🙌🏻 Y’all are awesome, don’t loose heart!
Aww that’s awesome to hear❤️😊
I love Romans... and it’s a great book to honestly remind us of the importance of turning away from sin!!
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I’ve been so encouraged by this series. Good job in reflecting true challenges we all face.
Since we live by the Spirit, let us follow the Spirit's leading in every part of our lives. ~Galatians 5:25✨
Run from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead, pursue righteous living, faithfulness, love, and peace. Enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts.
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@@PaulandMorgan hey guys, thank you so much for doing what you do! This is officially my favorite UA-cam channel😁. I pray that God continues to bless you with wisdom and courage to continually speak the word into the world!
Also, this might seem like a desperate cry for attention but (it isn't😂), I tagged you guys in a post on my IG page. The post was a poem I just wrote recently and I would really love it if you shared your thoughts on it and shared it with others😁✨.
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You guys are 100% right. Watchmen on the wall. Keep going fam👍🤗👍
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I believe that he didn't mention the contest of that verse in Romans cause he was addressing the critics and only that. He certainly knows that we have to try not to sin anymore, but still we do. So if people said things like "you can't backslide if you're saved and you truly encounter Jesus" he's right in his response by saying "hey, even Paul said that he sinned all the time, cause that's our nature"
So...I'm still catching up. Lol I just got done watching episode 5 and 6, but I suppose I can definitely relate. Since nobody here knows me, I will admit that after my very real experience with the Lord and began radically changing and growing in my faith......6 years later I found myself in a very real clinical depression and for a season, listened to the voice of the enemy and pushed away God's voice and began cutting myself like I had many years earlier. It then took a heavy dose of God's word and rebuking Satan in the name of Jesus to get out of my head and out of my thoughts that I radically overcame that season. For almost a year I was back to myself until another rough season arose....but the months before that was the only season in my life where I had gone back to old ways giving into a sin that had so much control over me. Backsliding is real, even though we have the Holy Spirit dwelling within us! In the scene where Mary looks up and realizes what she was doing, then leaves the money behind.....I remember feeling that same feeling....realizing I had messed up but also feeling like God was so disappointed in me after bringing me as far as He had. I can definitely relate to this scene. I think the difference in theological circles is whether she continued to stay in that place...so we understand that no one who has truly been set free by Jesus will walk away for good. We ARE prone to wander, but for the born again believer, God will always draw us back to Him. No, this was never mentioned about Mary in the gospels, so if I were to argue about this detail, it would be more because they altered her story of her walk with Jesus. But I think we have to remember this is a show taking artistic liberties...so maybe this was their way to remind us who do backslide that God will always draw us back to Him and never once stopped loving us...and our redemption was NEVER conditional upon what we would do or not do....that God is sovereign!
I agree with Dallas because it happen to me. I was baptized in 2013 and backslided for a few years after. Due to friends and company I was keeping and just the world around me and my fault for not opening my Bible and staying in the word and not going to church. I’m back and feel so close to Jesus I take steps everyday to make sure it stays that way. I also believe the Holy Spirit is working in me. I read my Bible everyday have found a great church and so many good resources. I have put boundaries in place with old friends and distance myself. I’m aware of backsliding don’t want that that ever to happen again. With grace and mercy from Jesus Christ he has brought me back to him I’m so thankful for his patience and love for me.
Appreciate you sharing :)
But it's more honest to say I still sin than I'm perfect I never mess up. We all can sin probably not this day, but maybe in the future I'll sin again but that's why we need Jesus everyday
I completely agree that claiming to be a sinner instead of claiming righteousness is speaking death and excuse over yourself. Yes, we are still human, but life and death is in the power of the tounge. We don't need to be declaring that we are sinners. But yes, we do mess up. We are human. I think Dallas might be talking exclusively about that aspect in response to people deciding that Mary backsliding is unrealistic or terrible. I think he's specifically driving home the point that we still sin because people do think that if we're just holy enough, we won't sin. Which of course isn't true. So I completely agree that there's no excuse and we should not declare to be sinners, but I get why he did what he did. He was making a point to a very special argument. Hope that makes sense ❤
I don’t see any conflicts between your view and Dallas’ view at all. I had to go back and re watched his video and yours a few more times to have a better understanding of what two of you are delivering, and I believe that he was purely addressing to those who thinks that Anyone who gave their lives to Christ will never sin again. He used Paul, Moses, David and even himself as example to say that we will fail, we wouldn’t have a need for Christ if mankind can have victory over sins. I’m the video even he said that he struggles with pornography and did fell back to it, but he REPENTED! That’s the key word, he Repented. So in no way he hinted that we should just accept that we will still sin and change nothing.
And at 2:42 of his video (you guys clipped that too), he mentioned something about how he disagreed with the “oh I gave myself to God and everything will be ok” mindset. I think this was the answer to one of your point about how we still need to try to live a holy life with God, as a response to Gods perfect and overwhelming love to us.
So I don’t really see any conflicts necessarily, maybe I could have still gotten your intention wrong, and you guys were just being cautious about what Dallas has said and how that can bring confusion to others. And that brings me to my last point that it’s hard to give a perfect response, it’s hard to elaborate and include all the points and they will have to reinforce and explain the other points. So Yeah give him grace for that. Again I believe it was just a short video purely to address the notion of believing that Christians will never backslide once Christ has made an impact in their lives.
Appreciate the comment :)
I think that the Romans 7 reference is completely valid. Yes God hates sin, but conquering sin and personal iniquity is a battle that many new believers struggle with. We have all been baby Christians. Based on this time line she has been following for maybe 2 months, and I know so many baby Christians that don’t completely know how to say no to the flesh…and I can speak from experience. Also the Roman church were Christians, but Paul wrote this letter because they were weak in the spirit. That was the whole purpose of the letter.
I think that Dallas and the show portrays the realities of following Christ and the struggle of new believers and what happens when you don’t rely on scripture and Jesus to overcome temptation. She had all of the disciples and JESUS in her midsts and still chose the vise.
I'm glad you guys read scripture! Thank you for addressing that and not being afraid to talk about sin! I have been deeply concerned about the Chosen series. As a Christian, I would LOVE for a Biblical series. What Christian wouldn't? I would love to be in support of it, but Dallas has said that the show is only 5% Biblically accurate. 95% creative license. That really concerns me. Have we forgotten that these are REAL people? These are REAL stories, not fiction. And that EVERYTHING we need is in the Bible. The Bible warns us not to add to scripture. There is no evidence that Mary backslid. This is a completely man made theory. I also think it is a disservice to the real people. I am concerned that Dallas is more focused on making the Bible and it's people more "relatable" than sticking to the truth. Another concerning moment in the show was in the beginning of Season 1 Episode 5.
Right at the very beginning after the parents find Jesus..Joseph says to Jesus "What are you going to do for your mother from this transgression? " Jesus NEVER transgressed. I have seen comments on the show that it's making Jesus "more human" and "more relatable." I believe that we should not add sin to the people of the Bible's lives to make them more relatable to us. Instead, we should be INSPIRED by their lives that we too, can be faithful servants of the Lord. People can be saved and not turn back to their old ways. I would argue that Mary's life tells the story of a faithful servant, not a backslidden one. She experienced the Gospel firsthand. If God wanted Mary's life to tell that message, don't we believe it would be in the Bible? Other people's stories told that. I am concerned at this idea that we need to add to the Bible to get certain messages across. Scripture is very clear on not adding to the Bible.
Really interesting thoughts, appreciate you sharing :)
I thought that the transgression comment was an actual joke and not serious, just Joseph being lighthearted with his son
Dallas did not say 5% biblically accurate. The parts of the show that are IN THE BIBLE they try to keep 100% bible, maybe those parts of these 2 seasons add up to 5% of the show and thats the confusion. And then the majority of the show is what is PLAUSIBLE of things that could have happened in 1st century near east to the followers (not just disciples, bible talks about Jesus having other followers with him too) of Jesus. The Bible can only tell us so much. (The perfect amount of so much. I fully believe in 100% accuracy of scripture as the word of God.) Having human backstories to people who just have a name and no stories is nice. BUT DO NOT GO AROUND TELLING PEOPLE ITS ONLY 5% BIBLICALLY ACCURATE. That is the vision of the show taken so far out of context that its just a lie. Watch the show. Heck if you just want to watch the scenes of what they took straight from the Bible just watch that, because they stick to the ‘script’ HARD. (Script....scripture....little pun). Dallas has reiterated many times he is not adding to scripture either. (As in ‘hey guys this REALLY happened.) If the show is not for you, totes understand, but the spreading of false info about the show is not cool. Joseph saying “transgression” to Jesus was a hint of humor, also saying you scared your mom (because he did, thats bible, making your mom worry is not sin) and Jesus telling his mom he is sorry is not an admission to sin. Another thing Dallas has addressed multiple times, he will NEVER make Jesus sin and believes Jesus was perfectly SINLESS. But when you listen to Hebrew/messianic scholars talk about these parts you can learn a lot about the Jewish culture and how sarcastic they can be when talking to their loved ones. Sorry I’m done ranting. I just hope you can read my words and see that 5/95 thing is misconstrued.
@@SavannahSedai Hi Savannah. In an interview with Melissa Doughtery, he said 95% of it isnt based off the Bible. Ive got no desire to spread false information.
@@SavannahSedai it's at 24:38 in his interview with Melissa Doughtery. He says it himself. Hope that helps!
I agree with Dallas and want to caution you against a very pious very on sin that makes Christians question their assurance of salvation. Dallas is right that Jesus died knowing full well we would sin again. Yes the Christians life should be sanctified and you should see triumph over sin, all in the Spirits power. But I think Dallas is absolutely right to say we are still gonna sin, and it’s actually helpful to portray Mary backsliding to show sanctification isn’t linear but has a lot of ups and downs. The only time we will truly be free from sin and it’s affects is when Jesus Christ returns and we long for that day
I agree But what about the part of the Bible that says you do not add or take away?
I have an issue with Mary backsliding because it is not written in scripture. If they created another character backsliding than it wouldn't be an issue for me, but they taking a very real person who lived and is recorded in scripture and assuming things that should not be assumed. I also believe people do not truly understand what backsliding actually is. It's not merely struggling with former sin patterns and habits rather it is completely turning away from the Lord and abandoning your relationship with Him to an extent. Backsliding is being used quite inappropriately. None of the apostles were purported to have backslided. Paul struggled just as we all do, like when he called the high Priest a white washed tomb, stating he should slap him, but repented upon learning he was speaking to the high Priest this way.
I also do appreciate him creating human Christian's that struggle with sin patterns and old habits; that aren't perfect. I definitely love that, but my issue is completely disregarding an actual human being who lived and this could be sort of slander.
I also believe it can be hypocritical as if it is alright to assume things regarding certain characters in the Bible, than how could we call out progressives for assuming things regarding Paul or even Jesus? To me it's dangerous, but I still call Dallas a brother!
That’s an interesting perspective, I appreciate your thoughts 😊
I love you guys 100%% agree
Sadly people misunderstand what this verse is saying ,excusing to willfully sinning ,so glad to see that you are discerning!:)somebody told me recently there’s a difference between a pig rolling around and a pig when it falls it the mud it gets out ,it hates the mud ,hates being dirty ...Your channel is Great thank you for your videos !!
How can people even say that tho? Everyone falls short of the glory of God, Why wouldn’t the deciples and Mary? They weren’t perfect! The whole point of this series is to be relatable to show how we can relate to Jesus, Mary, Mary Magdalene and the deciples. Just because they actually walked with Jesus doesn’t mean they didn’t have doubts or struggles. I mean we walk with Jesus too we have the Holy Spirit something they didn’t have yet. Just think about that, And look at how we struggle with our flesh all the time! People don’t really think sometime! God bless Dallas for speaking up! I pray this series grows and flourishes even more in Christ! 🙌❤️ but I get what y’all are saying he should of elaborated more on what Paul was saying.
Appreciate the perspective :)
So close to what Jesus said in ep 6 :)
I found it funny and ironic Morgan spoke about Mary's headscarf being removed as a "sin back in the day"...like I wonder how many things we're deeming sins now that won't be seen as sins in the future. Makes me understand why progressive Christians have so much support, because over time things DO change.
I Totally Agree with You Guys!
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Are y’all gonna make a video about the whole chandler moore wedding picture controversy? Please do ,we need more voices out here 😇
Please do! It didn’t sit well with me personally, I’d love to hear your thoughts on it ☺️
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I agree with you guys and with Dallas! I think he was just defending the scene and that's why the emphasis was on sinning. I bet he has the same view as you guys on all of that completely, after all, Scripture is the truth! And all of that is truth! Amen!
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Me when Paul tries to say he's still a sinner too: *Narrows eyes* I'm not sure I believe you
Paul in the video or Paul from the Bible? lol
@@Hannah-du5dk I meant the Bible, but I can see the confusion :)
Hey P&M! I've stumbled across your channel since I'm a chosen fan as well. You guys have good points and I love how you challenge others not just go by what you or Dallas is saying but to study the word and pray for truth. Dallas has a huge weight on his shoulders on understanding all religions like Catholic, born again, and even Jewish customs before Jesus. Either way we believe "truth" is what we all need to pray and gain. Jesus said to Mary "go and sin no more". That is the truth we can't deny. That is more of a reason why this topic is hard. If we can't believe he healed her to perfection then we are not truely understand his miracles. I'm not going to deny that once we walk in faith that we are miraculous heal but isn't that what we should aim for. To be like Him without sin. That is why confession is important, which they show. Coming to him honestly with our struggles, and flaws asking for forgiveness and to help us not to sin no more. God bless you both. Keep asking and teaching the truth.
Do y’all think we have commandments outside of the 10 Commandments? (if so what are they?)
Especially ones we specifically need to keep in order to get into heaven?
Jesus answers this question in the gospels and he boils it down to two.. Love the Lord your God with all your heart soul mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself... This doesn't get you to heaven though it is confessing with your mouth and believing in your heart that Jesus is Lord.... Being aware of your sinful state and need of a saviour then Jesus alone can help you fulfill the two greatest commandments... John 3:16...whoever believes in Jesus has eternal life.... Blessings
@@peacewataba3325 thanks! But I want to know their thoughts specifically 🙂
Can you explain what you meant by it was “a sin back in the day”?
Do sins change as times change?
Sin is missing the mark. It might have looked different then, but sin is sin.
According to the law and traditions that the Jews would follow back then ( which some religions still practice in different parts of the world today ) it was seen as immodest for a woman to expose her hair in public. Nowadays however this is not as heavily judged as a "sin". Hope that helps!
Sin is disobeying God not necessarily disobeying cultural or man-made laws that have no relation to personal holiness.
She probably meant tradition
Yeah sins don’t change as times change because God defines sin. But “back in the day” it was rebellious or scandalous for women to uncover their hair. So the sin was using their body to communicate “I’m a rebellious and loose woman.” Today that same sin can be committed by wearing certain types of very immodest clothing but it’s no longer connected with exposing hair.
I like you folks. You seem alot more like real Christians, than the old preachers who condemn this show. I just think these old preachers are jealous of the success and popularity of this show.
Great analysis! I have heard both of these perspectives on this subject and while I do believe we have to make an effort not to participate in sinful behavior, I also trust the Holy Spirit will convict us if we have the perspective of ‘well God will give me grace’ and do it anyways….which is what a lot of new believers do who are not rooted in, or are double minded as scripture speaks about. So you’re both right in your own perspectives, and I do lean more towards what you are saying about we need to make an effort to not fall into the temptation of sin. But we also have to realize that sanctification is a process. And the message he is sharing here I think is more about not allowing shame to have a stronghold on you when you do sin, which is a tactic the enemy can use if you are not yet equipped, as most new believers(and maturing) are not.
This topic always brings me back to the moments when Jesus uses the Word to escape from the enemies traps, one being when He was in the wilderness right after His baptism. I also see why it’s dangerous to have the perspective oh I’m a sinner but I believe so I am saved therefore I can keep sinning. But anyone who pursues a life with Jesus knows this type of double mindedness only causes despair and chaos in one’s life - insert the book of Jonah.
Either way I don’t think this scene should deter anyone from watching The Chosen. After all if we are only getting Biblical knowledge and perspective from media or even just the pulpit, we need to take a look at ourselves and relationship we have with Jesus. After all I can’t make my marriage work if I only depend on what I share on social media. There has to be an active engagement and pursuit for any relationship and intimacy. And we have intimacy with Jesus by reading the word, praying and fellowship with one another. Ok getting off point here! Either way good video!
I actually haven't watched the show yet, so I can't give an informed opinion on the show or the episode but what I can say is that we're all sinners, no one is perfect, no one is an angel and no one on this earth ever will be... even after a Jesus encounter people will struggle, slip up and sin, yes Christ can free us of our sins completely but there are a plethora of other sins that people can fall back to, temptations will always exist, the difference is acknowledging our sins, trying our absolute best to flee from it, resisting temptations, asking God for him to free us (again), repenting and asking God for his forgiveness if/when we fall back, and, most importantly, knowing that Christ died for our sins.
OMG.. you should definitely check out The Chosen.
Please watch the chosen it's amazing
U guy's grew in my heart now, rom 7 i belive talks about our fight against flesh without Christ, cheers from Croatia 😁♥️
Repent means turning away from sin
I agree with both 😊👍🏼
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