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Justin Bieber, Kari Jobe, Jaden Smith Teamed Up For ‘The Freedom Experience’
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2021
- ‘Justin Bieber, Kari Jobe, Jaden Smith Teamed Up For ‘The Freedom Experience’ -Our Thoughts’
This was quite the event, with a lineup that had some Christians scratching their head. It’s not every day you see Justin Bieber collabing with Jaden Smith one minute, then have Chance the Rapper singing the provocative song ‘I’m The One’, then have Pastor Judah Smith share the gospel. And then have Kari Jobe and Cody Carnes close the event with a worship song. There’s a lot to unpack here. Let’s discuss.
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I actually agree with the both of you! The whole thing was super confusing, and like you both said, God isn't the author of confusion. Secular music and trying to be like the world isn't Christ like. We're called to be like Christ. We may live in the world but we're not supposed to be like it. I know you guys know that already, but for those that don't, it's in scripture and it's also called being lukewarm. Jesus even says he spits out those that are lukewarm, because that's the worst thing you can be. You're either for Jesus or you are against Him, you can't do both. Justin Beiber, I'm sure he means well, but he is confused himself. I feel bad for him, my heart goes out to him. I really hope he keeps seeking God, and that the lord does a miracle in his life. God can! I believe it could happen. We just have to pray for Justin and those like him who are struggling in their faith, or even non believers that don't know God. 🙏❤
I Land On That I'm Totally Against That Nonsense, Especially Those Worship Leaders Causing Confusion.
God is not confusing, and that is what is SO STUPID ABOUT MOST CHRISTIANS TODAY! We have most young people knowing fortune cookie sized verses that are detached from the rest of the chapter, or not even knowing what the original word meant. It doesn't take alot of effort. We should never judge the world when our own don't even take the time to know our own religion. I hate how you'll will skim over one verse, but not elaborate on what it might mean. It's not you'lls fault. I apologize, but it's infuriating how the bar is basically set at a level of is your endorphins high. If it is then it's the Holy Spirit, and don't worry about the rest. That's why people fall away from the faith because it's a fake experience that can be recreated in any spiritual context. It doesn't even have to be Christianity.
Ok, I think I had a huge realization just now. Yes, we need to watch the fruit of the lives of those who say they believe but deny God with actions. Many false prophets come to deceive and "even the elect" could fall away (Matthew 24:24). The devil knows the Word too so we need to be on guard just as Jesus warned us. I made my first comment without watching the whole video and it got deleted somehow but I think I prejudged your guys' point of view. I actually agree that if there is deception and an emotional response to a "gospel" preaching that Justin Bieber is a true Christian who can possibly be THE standard, than yeah I see your concern. I think it's better that we be concerned about people being led astray AND people showing an emotional response to the gospel and saying THAT'S IT or THAT'S ALL THERE IS to walk of Christ. We are to set a better standard the new testament makes that clear. Jesus said, "For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:20). And Paul also warns us by saying, "It has always been my ambition to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else’s foundation." (Romans 15:20) Let's NOT be wise in our own eyes as the Bible warns us. "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong" (1 Corinthians 1:27). We need to set the standard for the unbeliever and BE ashamed of having "a form of godliness but denying it's power". Head knowledge won't cut it. Are we unashamed of the true gospel of Jesus Christ? Let's live like it and humble ourselves under God.
In Matthew 7:15-20 Jesus said, “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them."
I was personally at this concert and the presence of God was definitely there from my vantage point. Did I agree with everything done, no… but the gospel was preached and people that would never hear about Jesus heard about him that night. Yes we are to be set apart but also this life is a rescue mission to reach people who are far from God and share the good news. If Christians never enter these environments how will they know about God? People need to be told about Jesus and we are commanded to go and make disciples of all nations. God can use anything and anyone and it was an honor to pray for people that were receiving Jesus for the first time that night 🙌🏻
I’m glad to hear that, Kristin. Thanks for sharing🙏
I love what you said! That’s the mission to preach Jesus all over the world 🙏🏼
We are to shine our light in the darkness. I remember back in the day I sang before 3,000 people who were there for a secular concert and I was able to bring the gospel music. It was a seed that was planted for sure. God knows and sees the hearts. But in terms of preaching the Gospel the message of repentance goes hand in hand. Hopefully that pastor wasn’t dancing to the other songs but hopefully worshiping and praying for those in attendance to recieve Jesus🙌🏻
May we all shine our light before others and tell of His good deeds to Give God the glory.
I love this 😍😍😍😍
We shouldn't preach the Gospel at the cost of our personal holiness. The bible teaches separation, therefore we shouldn't visit unholy events. If you want to preach the Gospel do house to house evangelism.
God is not confusing. His voice is not confusing. Demons are, and they confuse people. I’m thankful to God for freedom and that He speaks clearly.
About what Paul said about Justin’s platform - I like what Voddie Bauchum said about this. People get excited when “celebrities come to Jesus” because they have big platforms to preach His name but the thing is Jesus doesn’t need anyone’s platform. His name reigns above all other names! He is Lord, He is King and He doesn’t need anyone to make His name big because He already is, the great I AM!
Amen!
That’s interesting, thanks for sharing🙏
Sis i was thinking the same 😂
I think you’re looking at it wrong, it’s not about making Gods name bigger , or Gods need of it … God tells us to speak to every nation to make them his disciples, it’s our job too in Christianity , so the more people you know or you can reach and talk too about Jesus is a blessing , I look at it that way
Amen and so very true. Jesus comes for individuals, not crowds, the big shows, the big noise, the bands, yes crowds followed him but they had their own motives for doing it. What is often concentrated on is preaching Gospel, the good news. But prophecy and present time truth is more important. Believing in Jesus is not going to save anyone, its emulating His character, upholding the 10 commandments, prophecy and preaching the Gospel along with faith/works. Genuine worship and secularism must never be mixed and then being sold as the presence of God. We don't need celebrities or famous people to tell us nor lead us to God, Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit. Jesus did say to the disciples we must be sober for the devil is like a roaring lion looking for anyone to deceive. What we tend to forget is, the world is coming to an end, yes the Gospel must be shared but according to Daniel and Revelations it's truth, the unmasking of Satan that is to be preached now. I am glad that these celebrity 'Christians' have found something, is it Jesus, that sure is debatable.
Personally I think that the Freedom experience has planted a seed with the people who don’t know Jesus. By Judah and Justin talking about Jesus, will hopefully make people want to find out more and bring them to church.
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That would be nice but I look at it this way... you can’t get people to stop doing drugs by offering them free drugs
Don’t forget to add the worship
Music by Kari and Cody . I believe they did the song the blessing . Someone posted them playing the song with Justins band .
But if the message people receive is Jesus is all about love and acceptance and unity and all you have to do is believe in him, won't people walk away with a false belief and think they can continue to do whatever and will go on sinning and not bother to read the scriptures? Because that's not the message they received here...?
@@euphrates_llc The freedom experience wasn’t church though. It was an opportunity to reach out to people to show them a glimpse of who Jesus is, in the hope that they would be intrigued to find out more. By going to church they will learn about scripture and how sinning is wrong.
Personally think Justin is doing an amazing job and using his platform for good now
I was in LA all week working with 1dayLA and went to the concert. I was bummed they only talked about “love” for most of it, but was stoked when Judah dropped the Gospel. I felt Justin’s portion was very honest. I saw a man who is being changed by the Lord and is struggling through the sanctification process. Justin looked truly broken and I think it was a very Spiritual experience for him. Definitely didn’t feel that from any of the other artists. It felt like the event was an example of being shrewd as serpent but innocent as a dove. Draw them in, then drop the Gospel. The ultimate bait and switch. I’m stoked that so many got to hear the Gospel, and pray the Lord uses it. I don’t think Justin Bieber is an example of a Christian that people should look too just yet, but I do hope the Lord turns him into one.
Oh that’s cool, appreciate you sharing :)
I’m so confused as to who you all deem worthy of sharing the gospel and where in the Bible it says God doesn’t work in secular situations? There is not one of us that has not fallen short of the glory of God, yet we are ALL called to share the Gospel, no matter how big or small our platform is. I think any sensible Christian can see Justin has work to do (as we all do), but that doesn’t make him exempt from sharing the gospel. If anything, I find it really inspiring that a person who literally has everything the world can offer, is saying none of these things have ever fulfilled me like Jesus does. He’s not saying he has it all figured out, he’s simply sharing that when he was in the most hopeless and dark place JESUS WAS HIS REDEEMER. I’d like to add that I understand how important repentance and turning from sin is, but you have first grasp God’s love, grace and mercy in order to be moved to repentance.
Glad you commented. This is what i think. Who are we to judge where God works and not? I just want to pray for them and let God do the rest..
So good
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I kind of disagree with your questioning of Justin's statement of the presence of God dwelling in the place. Of course everyone's emotions are high being in a concert and many of the people in attendance may not be believers, but out of the 20,000 people that were there, you can not say none of them were Christians and did not come to serve the Lord. Matthew 18:20 says "For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them." Just because there are secular artists performing and the possibility of many non believers being in attendance, does not mean the Holy Spirit did not come down in that place. From the many videos I've seen that place broke out into full worship, how could you deny the presence of the Lord in the place like that?
I appreciate the honest perspective :)
You can say the holy spirit was there for believers, but the unbelievers aren't saved, and don't have the holy spirit. So Justin's "you're feeling the precense of God" was totally out of place. Because you don't have the holy spirit as an unbeliever and hence can't "feel god" moving !
I agree! God can do anything he wants to
Do! It doesn’t matter if is secular/ worldly Jesus is almighty and I believe God transforming the heart of
His people! Jesus wins 🙏🏼🔥
@@user-ch7zi7zn8t I definitely agree with you to an extent. The Holy Spirit only dwells within those who are born again and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior, but there have been many occasions where non believers have tangibly felt the presence of the Holy Spirit. I don't think the Lord is limited in this way, but I totally see your perspective on this and don't think it's necessarily wrong to have differing opinions 😊
Amen 😊
God has called us to holiness. The more we engage with worldly things, the harder it is to make hard choices in God's favor.
I feel that🙏
I hear you. But in response to this topic I have this question for you. Is reaching out to non Christians where they are at considered a worldly thing? Did Jesus not do that in the Bible and still remain sinless?
@@kemdiegekeze4042 the problem is these “Christians” are not just meeting non Christians in there place of sin.. Justin and chance and others are living a life participating In sin and putting out un holy secular music going to clubs getting drunk and smoking weed.. and then being praised for being “transformed” with little to no fruits to back up that there has been repentance and a turn from sin.. that’s the problem.. Jesus preached to sinners met them where they were in their lives and did not participate in the sun but called them to repent and belief and they did.. here we see celebrities living sinful un repentant lives spreading the gospel and essentially saying you don’t have to stop sinning or repent and turn away all you need to do is love god because he loves you and believe and your good.. continue with your lifestyle you don’t need to show fruits or be transformed because look at me I’m Justin and I haven’t really changed much but I love god now and now I’m being praised by a pastor that my life has been transformed with no evidence of holiness..
@@julisagonzalez657 "No evidence of Holiness"...How do you know for a fact that there is no evidence of holiness in their lives? Is it because you see them perform music or smoke weed or whatever else? Do you know that there are people rn that you would call holy who have sins that would make what you think Justin and Chance do seem like nothing? We really have to be careful judging lives we do not actually know much about. If you want to say that it is confusing watching Justin cry about Jesus and then release a song like Peaches, then I'm totally with you. But to go out and insinuate that bc Justin is saved and is sinning means he is lesser is just legalistic. Was David saved when he murdered a woman's husband so he could have sex with her? He had followed God for years and God blessed him and he still did that horrible thing. Was he punished yes, which is one reason why we shouldn't sin. But was David not loved by God? NO. Because God's love is too big to be hindered by humanity. David turned and repented from his sin even AFTER following God. He made mistakes and grew and mature. There are literally countless instances of this in the bible where God shows grace and love to the underserving like me AND like you and Justin. We have to read our bibles and understand the heart behind the scriptures I encourage you to really think about the heart of God in the scriptures as you read. Not so you become a soft grace over everything person; but so you can understand the actual extent and disturbing nature of sin as well as the overwhelming awe inspiring grace of God. Open to continue this conversation!
@@julisagonzalez657 this is a very legalistic way of thinking. Our works don’t save us, it’s Believing in Jesus & His blood that does! John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9 they are babes in Christ, Paul wrote a whole epistle to babes in Christ (Corinthians) they’re learning. Some people take longer than others to be sanctified
Is he still singing peaches and other songs that are raunchy? Fresh water and salt water can’t flow from the same spring. I’ll pray that the hearts of everyone who are involved in this tour align with the Lord because this doesn’t seem right.
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And have you had a look at your heart? Is there anything that perhaps needs changing?
Since you're perfect sis, amen to that.
Wow I love hearing from you guys! I think Justin is going through an identity crisis. He wants to share the gospel but is also pulled by things of the world, and is in a constant struggle of living under contracts and getting signed by record labels which limits what he is allowed to do on stage and on his music platform. I think Justin is truly discovering the love of God, but is going through an internal struggle of not wanting to let down the world either. Let’s pray for him! He is going through something tough, more than a lot of us will go through. God is clearly working through him!
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You are correct, we need to pray earnestly for him. The devil is at great work and he wants Justin. He needs to forsake the big stage at all and find solace for his soul, then the Holy Spirit can quiet him down, strengthen, sustain, support, encourage, enlighten, empower, inform, impress, instruct, correct, convict and convert him.
I agree with Morgan!
Reminds me of this verse.
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
I think you both bring up great points, and I agree with you both in some ways. I have several friends that are spirit filled in the influencer circle in LA area. They shared about how incredible this event was. There were massive amounts of people there that didn't know the Lord and were hearing the gospel for the first time. Praise God! It opened so many doors for conversations, they got to pray for so many!!
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I just started listening to you guys. So far you sound like the real deal. Continue doing what you are doing. I’m blessed.
They were preaching progressive Christianity. There is a reason I lefted Judah's church. I was living in ain back then and I never felt convicted when I went to his church. I am so glad I now know the full gospel and try to live a holy life!
Amen! I am so glad you found the true gospel of Jesus! ❤️
Appreciate you sharing🙏
@Ciara, did they preach Progressive? For example, pro lbgtq, pro abortion, white privilege, patriarchy. OR do you mean feel good messages and never mention right or wrong. Because I have seen both. It's a shame.
I wouldn’t pick this apart too much. It was a lovely intro to Christ for people who don’t know Him and it was a beautiful thing to come together over
Also everyone’s walk looks different and God loves us where we are at, I don’t see anything wrong and sometimes the way you both do things isn’t going to be the way other people do things, everyone’s walk looks different and I think you guys are being just a little bit picky honestly 🙃
And you guys do not know who has a relationship with God or who doesn’t. You don’t have to walk like Jesus to have a relationship with God, God meets you where you are and it’s a journey from there
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We became part of a Sat. night street ministry, walking the streets of 'Chinatown' in our city, offering water, sandwiches and prayer. Many started looking for us to come with the prayer more than the food and water. Some accepted Jesus as their Savior. My feeling is we are to be his 'light' where ever we are and share Jesus WHENEVER possible. Gods says that where we are, he is also, if we belong to him...therefore 'the presence of God'. I don't believe we wait for the 'clean' situation. We went 'TO' the streets of 'Chinatown' because we knew there were many desperately needing Christ....just like the rest of the world. People could have condemned us for hanging out with drug addicts, alcoholics, convicted felons and prostitutes.
I feel we should not worry so much about how we each share the gospel, but as Christians, pray we are able to share our faith more boldly. ✝️♥️
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If had the opportunity to share the gospel to a crowd that big , it would be stupid for me to say no. I hear what you're saying .. but I think if Kari Jobe said no I can't proclaim the name of Jesus on this stage because there is secular music being played. I think we take every chance we can get . We never know the seeds that can be planted' just my opinion . You guys rock.
I hear that perspective :)
Not saying this in a hateful way, I promise...!! Just sharing my thoughts while reading this, but... There can be no fellowship between light and darkness. 2 Corinthians 6:14 & Ephesians 5:8-14 so I have to kindly disagree with you.
So if these supposed Christians were actually able to squeeze the REAL Gospel out of their mouths and someone in the audience supposedly gets saved what then? Let’s say the person who supposedly got saved follows the person who helped him get saved do you really think they are going to grow in the actual word of God listening to any of these people. NO!!! Take the supposed pastor Judah Smith. He is a false pastor. Have you listened to him preach? How exactly is the his person going to grow in the True Lord listening to these non believing fools. People need to wake up and pray for discernment and wisdom because it is truly lacking if anybody thinks any of these fools on this stage are saved .
@@ceciliaramos2280 I hear you
@@ceciliaramos2280 It sounds like Jesus has given you the authority and has made you a great judge? Look at Sophia's comment above. She spoke how she felt and about her disagreement but she never made herself a great Judge and a higher authority. We have to be careful in the way we judge others.
Personally this is the type of concert I would love to attend! I love it when Christian and secular artists perform together and love each other. I also think it's awesome that these artists got to be themselves and share Jesus in such a raw way. I hope that we have more concerts like this! To answer your question, I would say anyone that doesn't have any fruit in their life, I wouldn't stand by. Justin has been growing and producing fruit and he doesn't just talk about Jesus when it's convenient.
Was Jesus hanging out with "secular" crowds before he preached the gospel? Yes. In fact that is pretty central to Jesus' whole message
The difference is Jesus wasn’t trying to make Christianity look attractive, even the apostles would tell him to tone down his teachings as many people were leaving. If these Christian leaders would talk about repentance how many of these secular people would have stay? It’s sad how these leaders conform to the world to share a water down gospel.
You know there’s been only one Jesus. He was God in flesh. Scripture is clear singing worldly stuff and in worldly ways you’re not repping Christ.
Kari jobe hasn’t been fighting against the apostasy at all. She embraced bethels necromancy for Olive. And anyone else involved with this nonsense doesn’t know the real God. They are guilty of creating one.
I did the same for a long time.
No way. Lol
He came to call sinners to repentance. That's His message.
Those people just want to live the same way as they were before. That's not what Jesus came for it.
He was hanging out with them but he wasn't commiting and promoting sin to be accepted by them.
@@magalydeleon557 truth amen. They don't speak transformation, prophecy and repentance. Just a feelgood Jesus. What happens when the loud noise is down, how then will the attendees draw closer to Jesus
Christians can scratch their head and be critical of this all they want. Seeing Kari Kobe go alongside JB, Jaden Smith, etc is an amazing thing. That’s what actual unity looks like.
Be not of this world. Be seperate unto the Lord
@@jaymielee1110 nothing like quoting scripture out of context. lol.
Appreciate the perspective. Is there any celebrity who’s lifestyle you wouldn’t feel comfortable promoting to Christians?
Reading comments from people who aren't Christians talk about how much they were touched by the concert....kudos to Justin for being bold enough to include worship and mentioning Jesus. Continuing to pray for Justin. This is an amazing thing for him.
When I came to Christ, watching god is grey on youtube softened my heart. I dived deeper because I started to have a fire in my heart for God. Months later after going deeper, I realized how she doesn’t believe all parts of the Bible. She did soften my heart though. But I agree that we should share the WHOLE gospel, not leave it out. I think God can redeem anything and use anything to bring people to him. But us christians shouldn’t start off with that, we should share the whole thing.
I think Justin Bieber is super early in his faith and might not know the full gospel yet possibly. We should pray he sees the whole gospel one day. And maybe the world could see him actually walk with Jesus and repent which would be so cool.
Amen
I completely agree with Morgan's frustration and concern... So tired of the confusion coming in and leaving people emotionally stirred but unchanged 🙏🏽
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Yes Morgan yes, the confusion is what just doesn’t sit right with me either. Thank you for sharing your perspective graciously and yet passionately, because Jesus loved people and set them free but also commanded them to go and sin no more. Obedience directly leads to freedom in Jesus and it’s hard to imagine a “Freedom” event where obedience to Gods word isn’t mentioned!
Yes, Amen. An evident transformation needs to take place. Why when would Jesus have saved Saul, changed him to Paul just for him to go back to being a roman soldier to allow him to persecute Him and His people. Woe unto us for Satan is working his wonders, setting his stage for the mark of the beast but the whole world is in wonder of these concerts that genuinely does not emulate nor uphold truth or prophecy
We have to pray for Justin, he’s torn. This was a huge seed for many people. This concert definitely was symbolic of where he is at spiritually.
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@@PaulandMorgan Justin is on journey with God his Father. Pray into that.
The best place to be... torn, broken.. God uses those people. for His glory.
When I got saved the guy was on the corner out in front of my work preaching about hard stuff, hell fire, about sin, it didn’t take all the smoke and lights to reel me in.
Aww cool
@@PaulandMorgan cool.....😐
Yes I am on the same page as you guys. honestly I feel that people always take it for granted how much God actually hates sin! and it is really confusing when someone claims to walk with Chris but shows the opposite in their actions, especially in front of the world. That can be creating more lukewarm and in the end those are the type of people Jesus will spit out of his mouth. Yes God's grace is sufficient for the ones he loves, but I believe that there should be a clear understanding of who Jesus was and is and what he stands for and there should be a line separating the two so that people do not think its ok to mix both secular and Holy together in their lives, because you can't, its either you live one way or the other.
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This is scary, people don't fear God anymore. Progressive Christianity has to go.
Yes, ain’t got time for any of that half-lived christian stuff..
After sitting through a summer camp with more gay students than straight constantly yelling out how much they hate God and the Church, doing tarot readings in class and on teachers , joking about pulling people off the streets and shooting them I think a HIGH BAR is needed !! We need to tell the truth !!! These kids need true love and deliverance !
I thoroughly enjoyed Judah`s preaching and the songs that were sung. I appreciate that Justin Bieber is not afraid of showing his faith and sharing it with others. The only reason he is being judged is because he is a figure in the public eye. We all have many flaws and no one is perfect. I didn't mind the mash-up of Christian/secular music. You can have a 100% Christian based event minus secularism and there WILL always be something that will not be pleasing to everyone. As a Christian, I'm more concerned about hearing of churches mistreat and turn people away if they don't meet all "standards" of Christianity. It's like the idea of "we want to share Christ with you, but in order to do that you have to live up to our standards before we can do that." This is wrong because Jesus knows we are all flawed. That is the purpose of his saving grace and unconditional love.
Love this Mandy
Amen Mandy.
Alot of celebritys claim to be christians. They celebrate "Jesus" in there own way. Then they go out an do their own thing. You are either 100% for Jesus or 100% with the world.
Personally, I feel like this whole ‘Freedom experience’ caused more confusion for people than clarity on who Jesus is and what a relationship with him is like. Doesn’t the whole experience kinda scream luke warm to you?
Oh yes, it DOES!
Completly agree with you on this
Often when people first come to Christ it takes them awhile before they become mature Christians. Roxanna did you do everything perfect when you first came to Christ? Do you think we are showing grace by nitpicking at someone who is probably trying to share the gospel more than you and I are? Are we freely speaking about this maybe a little harshly just bc he is famous? He just got saved and is in the process of sharing the gospel when it literally will be detrimental to his career world wise. Yet he’s still doing it. Slowly, and not perfectly, but he’s doing it. The biggest star in the workd who has everything he wants is turning to Jesus. Doesn’t that mean something? Isn’t that the heart we should start with as we critique and comment on how things can be better instead of just being like “that’s lukewarm”? If my friends pointed out that I was lukewarm every time I tried to start a Bible study or preach the gospel or share with my basketball friends, I would be annoyed hanging out with Christians. Just some thoughts. Our hearts in this and the end goal of all coming to Jesus while not sacrificing who Jesus truly is and what he calls us to do is essential. @Roxanna Hunt
@@kemdiegekeze4042 IF he actually came to Christ it is an immediate heart change. Those things that he is doing would start to repulse him and he would not be able to do it anymore. There would be growth. By their fruit you shall know them. There is absolutely no fruit for Justin Bieber or his wife. Nobody in that stage was actually saved. So if a person supposedly comes to Christ at this concert what Christ did they come to. It definitely wasn’t the Christ of the Bible. Stop defending these non believers and making excuses for them.
@@ceciliaramos2280 Those are harsh words but I feel you. I say this all in love. You sound like you read your bible a lot so what do you make of David? He was sved right? From a young age. The bible refers to him as a man after God's own heart. Yet when God elevated him to be king he murdered Bathsheba's husband so that he could have sex with her. Justin and Chance surely have had a good amount of sex but I doubt they've killed anyone and committed adultery at the level King David the writer of the psalms did. So you knowing your bible surely and knowing this story, ask yourself: was God's love mercy and grace for David deserved? Was it dependent on David's fruit alone? If it was, David would fit under your definition of a non believer and he literally wrote scripture that YOU are basing your certain claims about others you've never met on. Here is the gospel. Jesus came and died for us and rose again conquering the power of sin so that we are saved if we accept Him as our Lord . In this NO MAN CAN boast apart from the glory and grace of God. That means there is no fruit you can give that makes you deserving of being saved. Period. you know no one in that crowd. You do not know if the Holy Spirit was working there are not. Think about what you are implying when you say things like this. If you don't like how they went about the message or the music or whatever please please just say that. But when you jump all the way to the legalism of saying people who aren't perfect cannot possibly be saved you are now literally being unbiblical and you are unknowingly preaching the exact opposite of the gospel. We should want everyone to be saved, even celebrities we don't like. And yes we should be mature and bear fruit as Christians bc yes that IS evidence of spiritual growth. But we also have a responsibility to DISCIPLE others and help them get to maturity and holiness. That's what God does with you when you act crazy and sin right? unless you don't sin? Ever? I say this all in love please hear and think on what I said. Thank you for your comment.
I think anytime you can talk about, sing about or celebrate God in any setting, especially among unbelievers can only be a good thing. "God doesn't call the qualified, he qualifies the called."
I love Justin, I get what he’s trying to do. My opinion …. Looks like an attempt to make Christianity “cool” so we “fit in” when we’re meant to stand out. Set the standard. No water Downs…. I would hope Judah would know that out of all of them. Yes Jesus sat with sinners … but Jesus wasn’t encouraging their old lives …. Wasn’t in Matthews tax booth or table yaknow? Lol
My opinion though… but hey…I’m praying for him on his walk!
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I agree but we also have to think about how people can be reached and no were not meant to fit in so what is wrong with being "cool" not prideful but just be yourself because if you know your worth in Christ, you are cool. That's not something you try to do or convince others to do but it is authentic, being yourself. As the Church we need to learn to be who God made us NOT go on sinning but rather be the light in the darkness showing others that Jesus came so that we too can be made Holy. As true Christians we don't fit in and we DO stand out. We are not perfect but we have made the decision each day to follow Jesus whatever the cost. 'All have sinned against God'. The question we all must ask ourselves is "Am I living unto God to let my light shine? Or Am I living for humans to let the enemy steal the light I have in Jesus? 'Choose today whom you will serve'. That's for us all.
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@@Drumgirl4God1 I understand and respect your point of view and agree with a lot of what you said … but the word clearly says to not be yourself anymore. Be transformed and renewed.
Luke 9:23
And He said to all, “if anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me”
Romans 12:1-2
“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.”
Now that’s not to say God cannot use what Justin did, because what the enemy means for evil God can use for good.
@Kökis Immanuel that’s not a good example in my opinion.
What would you say to a woman half naked, having you lust over her for tip? Then goes … Jesus is the way, the truth and the light…. The fruits you bear must be edible to those you’re trying to reach.
What if there’s a struggling Christian in that club, struggling with lust? Home girl is going to be a stumbling block unfortunately.
So yes, you quit because being saved is like a new born baby, vulnerable and needs guidance. Being saved isn’t a transaction… it’s a start … an old setting to a new believer can be a huge stumbling block.
“Nor do they put new wine into old wineskins, or else the wineskins break, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But they put new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved.””
Matthew 9:17
Those are red letters too btw. Are we going to compromise with Jesus because it’s 2021 and time has changed?
I think not
“Remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of God to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.”
Hebrews 13:7-8
Following Jesus means drastic change, Peter wasn’t a fisherman no more… hypothetical girl won’t dance on tables no more, she can turn them over… bear good fruits and evangelize.
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This reminds me of when the Israelites entered the promised land and found that God told them to TAKE the land as their own. However instead of doing so they mingled with the other tribes and became so lost in sin. Being a true Christian is about TAKING the cross and running with it as hard as you can because the world is gonna try to snatch it up faster than a ice cream on a hot sunny day 🍦
That’s really interesting insight, thanks for sharing🙏
You need to find a partner that looks to you like paul & morgan see each other.
I agree to this.
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I did but she’s the same gender as me oops
The freedom experience reminds me of a phrase I heard years ago, 'you cant mix dog poop and cookie dough'
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Hey, Paul and Morgan! This is long. I hope you read it. And actually, I agree with most, if not all, of the things you said. For me, here are my opinions (everyone who will have the patience reading this and checking out the scriptural references are welcome to agree or disagree with me):
> The world and the Gospel should never be mixed because it indeed brings confusion - and confusion comes from the enemy, but order comes from God (1Cor. 14:33)
> As Christians, we are not to sing secular songs at all, most so if we are going to preach the Gospel afterwards - again, confusing (Col. 3:16)
> Sensually, explicit song with cussing? BIG NO (Eph. 5:3, 5:19-21)
> Yes, Jesus ate with sinners, but He did not go to the place where sin was - Matthew already left his old life and opened his home for his peers to meet Jesus. What does this tell about a changed life? If someone truly wants to follow the Lord, they will leave their old life and no longer dwell or partake in them (so, secular songs? No)
> This also shows the doctrine and understanding of these "Christians" of what Christianity really is - yes, they love Jesus but they are or may be ignorant of the truths of repentance, holiness, sanctification, purification, new life, etc. It also begs to ask the question, "Who is their spiritual leaders? Who is teaching them and guiding them in their walk with God? Are there any? And if so, are these people "solid" Christians?"
> It is true - the world's perception of Christianity today is so watered-down, convenient, accepting, progressive when it's actually not - and this is mainly because of unchanged lives that do not show the grace of salvation. Grace teaches us to say no to sin and to live lives that please the Lord (Titus 2:11-12)
> One good thing: Jesus was preached as the Way, the Truth, and the Life (Phil. 1:15-18) The apostle Paul rejoiced in the fact that Christ was preached even in pretense or in truth. The incorruptible of Christ is the incorruptible seed - the power is IN the Message, not in the messenger (Rom. 1:16)
> But now, instead of looking into this so much, let's ask ourselves: what are we doing to preach the truth of God's love, forgiveness, repentance, turning away from sin, living a holy life, serving Him and walking with Him daily? Are we evangelizing? Are we teaching people the Bible? Are we praying for people to get saved?
> Seeing the videos, clearly, the world is very hungry and thirsty for the Presence of God - they want God, they want a changed life, a freed life from this world - so let's do what we can to show them the way and teach them the Truth. Sure, the Bible is not popular, some people would not want to hear the truth because it may be too hurtful for them, but God's Word is what will change people's lives. Emotionalism does nothing - sure, the incorruptible seed of Christ is planted in their hearts, but it will not grow if there is no one to guide them, follow them up, bring them to church, and teach them of this new life that is in Christ Jesus.
> There is hope for all. In whatever circumstance, He will use everything in our lives and turn it around for good - even if there are these kinds of events that make people confused, because He makes all things work together for the good of those who love Him. (Romans 8:28) And when these people see God's goodness, it is what will bring them to repentance (Rom. 2:4)
> So, let's keep praying for the world that they may come to the knowledge of the truth, let's stay on Message and let's share the Gospel to people in whatever way we can.
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Regarding new believers being elevated to leadership (the Bible says, no)...Timothy 3:6, "...not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil."
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12:38 preach it Morgan!!
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You cannot loyally serve two masters simultaneously. No middle ground in worship. You're either for God or for the devil... My view on this.
Strong words, appreciate the comment
God is still cleaning Justin! Let’s continue to pray for him.
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He desires us to Worship Him in SPIRIT and TRUTH
We need to ask, Was this concert spirit and truth? God is Holy. Period.
Amen. Good questions. Anyone can speak about the Gospel and Jesus. But the Holy Spirit Jesus said will lead us into stillness, holiness, direction and teach truth about Jesus Christ. There is something more with this concert, is it genuinely about Jesus, that is debatable🤔. Lucifer was known for his vocals in heaven, he was the best of all the angels and he does like big crowds. The Bible does warn us that in the last days, the devil's works will be big, great and wonderful. Why would he not use secular and 'christian' artists? We need true discernment and only God can show us the truth. We are meant to stand out and not fit in with the world
@@queeniemahuza-vercuil1024 👏🏾 Agree with you. Some may agree that it's a good thing but... Is it done in a way that God is on the spotlight mainly and not just another Hollywood showcase! 🤷🏾.... Yes.. People may come on me and say there was an outpouring of the Holy spirit and presence of God (as they called it) but I will plainly say it here... I think it's just "High emotions"... Yes Jesus reached out to sinners but Jesus did not entertain sin, if we really explore The Word we will see, He specifically rebuke sin, He would heal, pray over them, tell them they're forgiven but also He will tell them not to sin again! But did not entertain sin, did not go on and practice that sinful life with them... The same with the apostles,Paul went on to preaching, taking the gospel to pagan nations like greece, India, Rome etc.. But never once did he bow to Athene or Zeus, and when he was in Galatia they were about to worship him (Paul) for performing miracles but Paul highly rebuked this and to if we really read the Bible we will see Paul not only advocated for the gospel but he lived the gospel. So we as Christians are to advocate for the gospel of God & live it too (practice what we preach)... I don’t know about this but the Bible clearly says, "We will know them by their fruits" and not by their words!!... I think (in my opinion) this is just another Hollywood Show! But who Am I to judge!!
@@mwitaemmy amen and amen❤️🙏
Can you actually preach the gospel without without Mentioning Repentance?
I Would Stay Far Away From A Concert Like That. The Lord Isn't The Author Of Confusion. Shame On That Pastors And Music Worship Leaders.
I hear what you’re saying🙏
I agree! We are living in deceptive times we must be like the Bereans who sought out the word of God & took to scripture everything Paul was saying to see if it added up. There are many warnings from Paul & the Apostles even Jesus Himself warned of a time when people would deceive & claim false christs . We have been in a watered down lukewarm environment to where we are numb to lies. If we stick to His word we will know this is not a concert that brings glory to Jesus Christ. Look at revelation how Jesus felt about the lukewarm church. Neither hot nor cold. Not a good thing. I’ve been studying the 7 churches. This concert would’ve been perfectly set in Laodicea…lukewarm. Beware of wolves.
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We are called to confess and forsake our sins and trust in Jesus. That’s the gospel.
That concert was infiltrated 🤨 and that’s all I’ll say
I agree
I love the zeal Morgan showed in this video🤩
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And yes I think there are good fruits. Maybe bad ones too.
But Justin, and everyone else who was there, is on his own faith journey & who are we to judge his current place on the path. We’re can just keep drawing him closer.
I think an event like this shows us that the Gospel is secondary to most people in the visible Church today. While based on your critique the Gospel was preached, it was secondary to the concert experience that we see in most churches.
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Part of being a Christian is turning from your wicked ways.. Doesn't mean you'll be perfect, but it means repentance, and reliance on Christ... "If you love Me, keep My commandments."
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I truly want to know how Jesus has changed Justin Bieber’s life? I have never heard him say his testimony and what Jesus brought him out of?? I am I the only one? 🤔
He talked about a bit in his docu series seasons and in a interview from 2015 and I think 2019 if your interested,seasons is quite intense tho
That would be an interesting question.
You don't need a testimony to see fruit. Are they choosing money over truly serving Christ? The pearl of Great price talks about this in the Bible. The pastor that supposedly brought him to Jesus, also doesn't believe homosexuality is a sin. When we call sin, sin the world hates it.
Pastor Judah was doing an honor calling. In Vous church we have a saying that “honor is our calling,” I do it all the time at our retreats. It brings us and directs us to our roots where we came from.
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The the good part about this event that it is planting seeds of the gospel, and hopefully the attendees will go and search for answers and the Holy Spirit will draw them near to learn more
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how do you guys feel about him saying "I'm tired of religion" ?
That’s an interesting one. Kinda depends what he meant :)
God knows no religion
The Freedom Event preached a false Christ and a false Gospel. We heard it in the first line that Judah Smith spoke. He said it’s an event to celebrate our freedom. The easiest way to spot the Enemy working is if it promotes narcissism. The enemy tempted Jesus in the desert with wealth and power and hunger (all things that humans love). The doctrines of demons are all about using Christian words but the message serves humanity’s emotions,stomachs, and power.
I think this concert brings more good than anything, even with the secular stuff going on, God will move. The walk with Jesus is not always a dramatic change from day one (It is for some but not for everyone) The importance of the Gospel being preached is that once you accept Jesus he will never leave you behind, he will work individually with each soul that went to this concert and the process of repentance and conviction will begins.
Appreciate the perspective :)
Yes, very confusing.. as Christians we’re confused, imagine non-believers. You are absolutely right. I agree, we can’t have one foot in & one foot out. People are gonna think it’s okay to be living their “worldly” lives still.
Amen, choose ye today whom you will serve...
Philippians1:15 (apostle Paul)
Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.
Is 55:11
So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth;
It shall not return to Me void.
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Me and my sister just finished watching this video, and paused while watching to discuss, and some of the things we said y’all said the exact same after we resumed the video lol. I wish we could just talk and have a coffee with you guys! God bless!
Haha that’s awesome😊 Thanks for watching, tell your sister we said hi!
I wasn't at the conference, but from watching clips and hearing about it, I love that it happened. I think it was at least a step. For an LA event and in a city where following Jesus is not a thing really, these guys were planting a seed. I think it is important to appreciate what God is doing in the world and in people's hearts, especially very public figures like Justin. It is a way to spread the Gospel message and share Jesus that hasnt really been seen before. Yes, I wish Chance the Rapper wasnt singing a sensual song at this event, but at the end of the day, to a Chance the Rapper audience, if Jesus was preached and presented in a non judgemental and non threatening way (unlike the Turn or Burn preachers) I am for it, and I am for celebrating these unusual kinds of wins as well for the spreading of the Kingdom.
Appreciate the perspective :)
@@PaulandMorgan love y'all's videos and that you take the time to talk about these issues!
I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the fruit of their life. The Bible says we will know them by their fruit. Since you asked, I’m not in support of any of the people who were on stage, if they don’t bear fruit. I’m not saying that Justin isn’t being drawn to Christ, but I’m in agreement with Morgan about the repentance and being converted. You have to lay down the old and put on the new. Anyways, thank y’all for sticking with the Bible.
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2 Timothy 3 is so important and directly warns us of what you guys are addressing. If we live to really KNOW the Word, we will never again be confused like we use to be.
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It's not difficult. The Bible says light and darkness have nothing in common. These people are all lukewarm, neither hot nor cold and we know what Revelations says about lukewarm people.
What I don't like about this critique is that the entire show was not technically meant for 'Christians'. This is a secular show.. and I respect the artists and Judah for taking an opportunity to bring people into the faith that may have not otherwise been able to hear the gospel. So yes, it is not going to fit into our little Christian box of what we think the move of God should look like. When I take a step back from my own standards and I look at the life of Jesus I see him making a lot of religious people angry. A lot of believers missed the revival because they chose to follow the letter of the law and missed this spirit. Who are we to harshly critique the move of God? Let's pray for everyone involved, let's pray for people who heard about Jesus for the first time.
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Thanks for another video 💕
Welcome❤️
"More damage than good" is a great way to be discerning this. We can only look to fruit and a consistency that points to Christ. No one is perfect but I think people want so bad for a celebrity with a large platform to be cool and Christian. God will use anything and anyone for his purposes, but primarily it is the preaching of the Good News of the Gospel. Which brings me to the fact that Judah Smith does in fact do that here...not sure if it was planned or not. He seemed to do a great job in the clips I saw--but there was lots of emotion, music and excitement in the atmosphere which doesn't mean it's bad...all the while giving a live sermon illustration aka the Beebs sitting right next to him. While in general all seems awesome, it still feels a little man-centered with the fame that comes with Justin (not his fault necessarily). He needs to continue in the process of sanctification as best as he can privately since his fans do whatever he does...this is a tough one...it's good to see raw honest struggling while Jesus seems to be proclaimed...time will tell.
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Beautifully and correctly said
Thanks for sharing your perspectives. This is great and encouraging. We need to set ourselves apart from the world. Anything else does lead to confusion.
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Do I agree with how things were presented that night in full, no. However, I do believe its a step in the right direction. I have a slight understanding that Justin is fairly new in his walk. He is a "child" in the faith, so I'd encourage grace above all else. I honor his bravery to speak out in front of millions of people to express his gratitude to the grace and mercy of Jesus. Like you both said, we don't know the heart posture of everyone involved and we were not present. At the end of the day, God is just. He tells us to take the log out of our own eye before casting judgement. So, I'd caution you in how you present your opinions and how videos like this are received. I respect your position of wanting to share the entirety of the gospel and I also empathize with your frustration (Morgan). But, as your sister in christ I challenge you with these questions (in love): Is your tone throughout this video loving? What is the intention of your heart for this video and do you feel that was portrayed well? Is how you're presenting your opinion in alignment with the character and nature of Jesus? I rest in the knowledge that God did have his hand on this - he uses broken people and broken circumstances. Should they be accountable and questioned, yes. God will. I pray that God will be glorified. Much love for you guys.
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Morgan I agree with you. The last thing I would want is for people to think they are “following” Jesus when in fact they are walking straight to Hell with a false sense of security, continuing to live in their unrepentant state because NOONE TOLD THEM that’s what they have to do!! The full gospel doesn’t leave our repentance. . Thank you for your raw conversation. I love it.
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Thank you guys for this video! I personally think that this was progressive Christianity being pushed instead of the full gospel of Jesus Christ, it pushes Jesus of being ONLY accepting, & loving which He is but Jesus is also HOLY - there is still a standard. There is a reason why Jesus offended many people throughout His ministry. This event was very confusing & I really hope people who went home confused looked in the Bible to know Jesus for themselves. Keep making these videos guys, y'all are a huge blessing! :)
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Amen, truth
Thank you Paul & Morgan for your serious and in-depth take on this. Although we would hope that many seeds were planted at this event, the fact is it may cause more confusion than clarity. We are progressing to more deceptive times. The Hollywood types will sadly use Jesus as a label to create more confusion, leading more people astray. If they really wanted to lead people to Jesus, they would have talked about repentance, they would have told people to read Scripture. Thank you both for taking this seriously. Sending you love and prayers 🙏🏻💖
Appreciate your insight🙏
The topic of critiquing Christian events can be controversial and looked at as being judgemental. I'm so glad people like you are willing to open a dialogue, not to judge, but to come alongside other Christians and say, "We all are or should be seeking the Lord with 100% of our being, does this representation of Christianity help or hurt that? Or hurt the gospel message being preached?" These types of grey areas are great to open up, talk about, hold accountable to scripture where applicable and show grace and encouragement. You guys do a great job being authentic with how you go through your mental processing as a couple with a goal of seeking the Lord's face. Blessings.
I appreciate that you guys made this video. I've struggled with this and took in what you guys said. I want to believe that people who went to this event and saw what happened there started to read the bible and have a relationship with the lord. We all know the natural desire of man is sinful ones. At that event, I can believe that the Holy Spirit moved hearts, but what was portrayed as an example at that event was not true Christianity. It was not a life that has their eyes on God. Never the less We don't know possibly there are some people that did change their lives and fully commit to God. But even if that is the case the people who were a part of this event will be judged for portraying Christianity in such away.
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I saw a video of the concert and it just looked off...
You can kick rocks. Don’t be hyper spiritual.
@@JonathanWestcott I would say it’s more being discerning than „hyper spiritual“
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@@sd6212 of course you would. Anything that doesn’t look like an average church service is going to “look off” to people who are indoctrinated and have no insight into actual unity. There was nothing wrong with this concert.
@@JonathanWestcott that’s your opinion but the bible says different
You bring up some excellent points. The lines shouldn’t be blurred.
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Jesus set the tone.
i love you guys so much thank you for sharing your thoughts!
I'm sorry but if they are not walking with God I would not listen to their words cause it would just leave me confused. Also Love your videos it really helped me to read into the word again and look for a relationship with God again. ❤❤🙏
Aww glad to hear that🙏🙏
Jesus literally spent time with the homeless, the women people called whores, the sick, the disabled. He spent time around people from so many different walks of life. He literally turned water into wine.. So, yes. I do think God was in that building.
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No where in scripture do we see Jesus or the disciples partnering with the world/those in darkness to advance the gospel. They preached to those in darkness but did not team up with them. Light and darkness cannot exist together.
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Justin Bieber is as christian as you are
@@afrolife2231 where in my comment did I say he wasn’t. There were other artist there besides him that haven’t claimed to be Christian and their music glorifies darkness. Also, Justin may claim to be Christian (I am not going to dispute that) but he has continued to make music that promotes darkness/sin.
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Hey guys! Love your videos❤️ Can I just ask Morgan, where did you get those pants, they're very nice!
Put it this way. Justin bieber etc, are all friends of the world, they haven’t let go of their own worldly life.
God may well use them to plant seeds… that doesn’t mean they’re walking righteously, the truth is they’re of the world, they haven’t received deliverance, they are not born again.
James 4:4 “Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God”
Wanted to ask you guys if you both have had a real experience with the Holy Spirit and what was it like and how does someone have a real profound,life changing encounter with God,Jesus or the Holy Spirit?
This verse came to my mind about half way through your video… hopefully it helps anyone who may be confused.
Philippians 1:15-18
King James Version
15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
This is a great discussion and I agree with what you said. It’s interesting how there is now a difference between believers and disciples of Jesus. Believers just agree with the gospel mentally. Disciples of Jesus believe *and* intentionally implement the teachings of Jesus into their lives.
It wasn’t like that at the beginning. When the church was birthed, if you were a believer, it meant that you were a disciple of Jesus.
I love 💕 justin bieber, and many like him, trying to fix this up, after falling from faith,coz he comes from Christian back ground, "train a child in the ways of the lord when he will grow up he shall not depart from it"however, it's prudent to have mature, brother and sister in faith to whom they can hold account to, you know salvation is a journey, support, guides play a key role
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Kari Jobe is progressive in her theology, not surprising she links up with those who don't hold to historical Christianity.
In my opinion Justin is doing his best to be faithful with what God has intrusted to him. God has chosen to give him a platform to influence the masses & he is doing his best to use that platform to reach people for the Gospel. Is he doing it the way I would chose to? No. BUT he isn’t trying to reach church people he is trying to reach the unchurched. I also think we as believers need to do some self reflection that us constantly criticizing him every time he tries to be faithful to the Lord is probably why he made the comment of I’m tired of religion. Imagine being a celebrity, in such a anti God culture being constantly criticized and the Christians are also constantly criticizing you… when we are supposed to here his brothers & sisters. I don’t know.. I just have empathy for him.
I also feel like it is very unfair to compare Justin to say Miley bc Justin is a member of a Bible believing church. He and his wife showed real signs of life change ex waited to have sex til they got married (which they had not done with previous partners before they knew the Lord) does he have a long way to go still in discipleship. Probably. But he is being faithful in the process. Vs Miley has completely walked away from the Faith. Just not a good or fair comparison…
Appreciate the perspective :)
I was also confused because I’ve listened to some of Judah’s sermons and he seemed to be bold when talking about sin and not playing a part or living a lie but to actually walk in the light but when it comes to Justin it’s like he accepts the way Justin is living
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I totally understand your concern, the confusion part.
But also I remember when I first began to follow Jesus, my Spotify playlist was VERY confusing (a worsiph song then a secular one) and things like that. God progresively showed me how to walk. And it'll be like that 'till the day we die, right? Philippians 1:6
God bless you and greetings from Peru! :)
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Morgan I appreciate your wisdom and seeking first the kingdom of God and His Righteousness. Not compromising truth and saying "I dont know when you truly don't." Thats wisdom and humility.
Justin Bieber is a perfect example of Christian today love God but doing their own, ways
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I can’t be more agree than this! 💛Thank you guys for sharing!
Thanks Deborah🙏
Who are we to judge and even know if God is working or not? If it was God or not..
Just a simple prayer is all i can do for them.
Interesting video. Thanks for doing this. 🙏🏼
Well guys... do you think praise and worship will reach the lost? Praise and worship is for the saved! We are trying to reach the LOST!
Great video guys!
In regards to Judah’s sermon, we don’t have to expect someone to repent immediately after hearing a sermon.
I mean, that would be awesome, but the truth is that Jesus needs to work in their hearts first. Otherwise, I don’t think their faith would be rooted deeply but would only accept Jesus because of the pressure.
What does fruit mean to you? If its character, young marriage, gospel songs like pray in his first albums as a teenager. Affecting an entire generation to believe in young love and kindness, as an artist. Instead of promoting flashiness arrogance and boastfulness. He ticks all the boxes.
I wanted to cry when I saw that Conor McGregor was there, I pray that God really moves in him, please God
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““No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick by one and look down on the other. You cannot serve God and money.””
Matthew 6:24 TLV
“If it seems bad to you to worship Adonai, then choose for yourselves today whom you will serve-whether the gods that your fathers worshipped that were beyond the River or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will worship Adonai!””
Joshua 24:15 TLV
It's the shirt for me Paul! 🙌
That reminds me of a shirt my Grandpa used to wear! Paul you are styling!
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I like Ruslan KD take on it. Which I guess y'all were tuned into his livestream cuz he shouted y'all out. Glad to see Judah Smith brought the Gospel message to Justin's fans! Hearing it on Ruslan's stream it sounded and felt like a modern day Billy Graham crusade.
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It doesn't matter who it is. People that are new to the faith in Jesus should not teach until they are mature in the faith. But he can say that he is new to walking with Jesus but he needs to disclose that he is growing and still makes mistakes.