F-22 vs SU-57 | Thunderbird Pilot Reacts

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  • Hi Be Jet Clean Team! Are you interested in seeing the latest aircraft pinned against each other? This is the SU-57 Felon versus the F-22 Raptor (F22 vs SU57). I'll use my experience as a combat fighter jet pilot and Thunderbird pilot to tell you what I am seeing.
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  • @MaxAfterburnerusa
    @MaxAfterburnerusa  Рік тому +34

    Hi everyone! thank you for checking out this video. You can pop over to bejetclean.com and join our mailing list, or not the choice is yours!

    • @user-iw7gs7ur7e
      @user-iw7gs7ur7e Рік тому +1

      in the video of the f-22 there is too much marketing, the video of the su 57 is more true, it is not for nothing that Turkey prefers Russian weapons, it will certainly have made the comparison

    • @jaycee5069
      @jaycee5069 Рік тому

      Walking home ma

    • @romanstorchak4902
      @romanstorchak4902 Рік тому +1

      реклама f22 - он летает прямо и всё!!!!!!! Ни одной фигуры высшего пилотажа (потому что не может!!!!), Вот допустим ты водитель машины ты часто оборачиваешься, в движении, чтобы посмотреть назад? Смотри какие сопла!!!! Это довольно дорого обслуживать!!!????? Посмотри сколько стоит обслуживание Раптора!!!!!! И в каких идеальных условиях его нужно содержать!!!!! У Су57 сопла не только меняют вектор тяги, но и меняют размеры сопла, ну и если ты думаешь, что от изменения размера сопла изменится его видимость, ты ошибаешься есть закон сохранения энергии, сколько твой двигатель сожрет горючего столько и выделится энергии из сопла. Вас там в США физики не учат?

    • @WeReN_Sl
      @WeReN_Sl Рік тому

      @@romanstorchak4902 ну не порти им впечатление 😂.Они ещё говорят что на сушке двигатель стоит от обычного истребителя, только вектор тяги меняется😂.Они явно не в курсе что он разгоняется до двух махов без форсажа и звук у них пронзительный как вой Банши.

    • @WeReN_Sl
      @WeReN_Sl Рік тому

      @@romanstorchak4902 а самое интересное это Су 57 с тремя калибрами на брюхе👍

  • @4rct1c9Ic3m4n
    @4rct1c9Ic3m4n 2 роки тому +1922

    SU57 is extreme stealth-you cannot find it anywhere except in magazines

    • @jeffreygunn3530
      @jeffreygunn3530 2 роки тому +177

      Exactly, like most Russian superweapons. There are exactly 3 operational Su-57s in the entire Russian air force (there were 4, but one crashed before delivery). It could be the greatest fighter ever designed, but so what? What can you do with 3 of them?

    • @harrier1249
      @harrier1249 2 роки тому +28

      @@jeffreygunn3530 not much sir

    • @derekcraig3617
      @derekcraig3617 2 роки тому +21

      🤣😂😂😂😂

    • @christopherabogutal1067
      @christopherabogutal1067 2 роки тому +12

      😅😅😅

    • @flopofshame2582
      @flopofshame2582 2 роки тому +46

      Kind of like their hypersonic missiles that they apperently just had a couple of because they stopped firing them

  • @johnlasarev
    @johnlasarev Рік тому +142

    Hello from Russia. Nice video. It is interesting to observe how engineers from different countries approach solving similar problems. Airplanes are a cool creation of the human mind.

    • @wot_pak2220
      @wot_pak2220 Рік тому

      ю рашн пипл?)

    • @johnlasarev
      @johnlasarev Рік тому +2

      @@wot_pak2220 Но ол рашн пипл, ай спик фо майселф)

    • @user-bj9wv3lr4k
      @user-bj9wv3lr4k Рік тому +1

      @@johnlasarev ю вери гууд нов инглиш ленгвич)

    • @johnlasarev
      @johnlasarev Рік тому +4

      @@user-bj9wv3lr4k ай хэд а гут тичер энд ай ноу, хау ту юз гугл транслэйт)

    • @blizzardrix
      @blizzardrix Рік тому +1

      @@johnlasarev но вэй! у юспик ту флюеентли то белив зет ю юзенг гугль трунслетер! ю маст би а спай зет траинг ту лук лайк тру Рашн ! xD

  • @anthonycanty3755
    @anthonycanty3755 Рік тому +169

    The SU 57 is the extremely capable and beautiful aircraft. I know the rear visibility sucks in the cockpit. Sukhoi does not have huge budgets like we do in the US.
    I think Sukhoi designers know that 3D thrust vectoring nozzles have a bigger RCS. and IR signature, than 2D thrust vectoring engines. Sukhoi puts more emphasis on the dogfight and super maneuverability. US Pilots should train against thrust vectoring aircraft just in case. Everyone loves their own team and aircraft. But you cannot underestimate the other side. You have to give credit to Sukhoi design Bureau. The SU-57 and SU-37 flown by good Pilots equals a good dog fight.

    • @alack3879
      @alack3879 Рік тому +13

      One teensy tiny issue.
      Jets don't dogfight anymore.
      Missiles will out maneuver out run and shoot down anything from over the horizon.

    • @dreyone6156
      @dreyone6156 Рік тому +19

      @@alack3879 While that's generally true, radar isn't foolproof and jets can still find themselves in a dogfight if they fail to spot another aircraft for whatever reasons (equipment failure, terrain obstructions, etc). The Su-57's stealth technology isn't as good as the F-22, but it still has at least semi-stealth capabilities which also factor into this.

    • @alack3879
      @alack3879 Рік тому

      @@dreyone6156 true, but I don't want to be the loser to test whether or not the long range radar is gonna shove a missile up my ass

    • @user-ir5sh2kk7c
      @user-ir5sh2kk7c Рік тому +31

      У су-57 5 антенных решёток АФАР-радара обеспечивающие обзор пространства на 360 градусов, в том числе радар дециметрового диапазона. Это единственный в мире истребитель с такими возможностями.

    • @guyfromboracay
      @guyfromboracay Рік тому +11

      @@alack3879 That’s what everyone was saying when the F-4 was rolled out but proved to be disastrous when missile engagements inevitably turned into dogfights and the F-4 had nothing to defend itself with. The fact that the F-22 *and* the F-35 both have internal guns just goes to show that dogfighting is not going to end anytime soon. Also don’t forget that the F-22 also has 2D thrust vectoring and dogfighting techniques are still taught at aviation schools such as Topgun and the the US Air Force Weapons School.

  • @ironmann16
    @ironmann16 2 роки тому +15

    Being a lifetime Military Aviation nerd, I just now happened upon your channel, and man, I'm impressed! Can't believe you're not already at 500k! Anyway, excellent job on the video, and I'm certainly looking forward to more!

  • @randomname1251
    @randomname1251 2 роки тому +368

    The F-22 has 93000+ horsepower. The Spad X.III, flown by Eddie Rickenbacker in WW1, had 200 hp. Amazing how far we’ve come!

    • @datsuntoyy
      @datsuntoyy 2 роки тому +16

      I'd also venture to guess the Spad was more stealth than the F22. Only thing to reflect radar was that engine.

    • @slycer876
      @slycer876 2 роки тому +3

      @@datsuntoyy if I'm not mistaken its very hard to pick up bi planes especially when there flying low

    • @jamesmcgee1566
      @jamesmcgee1566 2 роки тому +1

      Um no it doesn't it ha 70,000

    • @datsuntoyy
      @datsuntoyy 2 роки тому +1

      @@jamesmcgee1566 70,000 what? I'm missing that reference.

    • @SLow-fb3qm
      @SLow-fb3qm Рік тому

      Rickenbacker for the win!

  • @prayerwarrior1579
    @prayerwarrior1579 2 роки тому +37

    As an Air Force Brat this is do fun to listen too! When my dad retired he was presented an autographed picture of the Thunderbirds. To our family it is priceless, he retired in 1973 after over 20 years on a flight line.

  • @Whitehalo117
    @Whitehalo117 Рік тому +81

    I was an Intel Analyst in the Navy and would talk to alot of decision makers about the difference in having a capability and being able to effectively use it. Training and experience are king. Not only with our pilots, but shipboard crew, infantry, etc.

    • @smokedbrisket3033
      @smokedbrisket3033 Рік тому +2

      Not just training and experience, but doctrine. I expect Russian doctrine and its application haven't changed a lot since the days of the USSR. In the US military, going back to at least WWII, when doctrine doesn't help address a current situation, it is tossed and the ingenuity of the commander becomes paramount. This sort of outside the box thinking is uncommon in non-western militaries.
      And based on their significant failures in Ukraine over the last 6 months, I'd say they're probably still as stupidly doctrine-bound as they ever were, and they have no cure for it.
      True story. Going into WWI, the US Army didn't even have TO&E for anything above regiment size, if I am not mistaken. They came up with all of that (for division sized units, and maybe even army-sized, I can't remember anymore) and coordination of effort while steaming to Europe in 1917.
      Like Fred Thompson's character said in "Hunt for Red October," the Russians don't take a dump without a plan.

    • @Whitehalo117
      @Whitehalo117 Рік тому +1

      @@smokedbrisket3033 I mean that's very true I didn't mention that in my post. I kind of forgot about Russias antiquated doctrine. Focused on mostly armored vehicles and the MBT. They're fighting a 21st century war using 20th century doctrine... Ukraine adapted out of necessity, and is fighting how I'd imagine a 21st century "conventional" war would be fought. Obviously that's subjective but whatever.
      Another advantage is NCOs. The US delegates alot of tactical responsibility to NCOs. Russia doesn't have NCOs.
      I mean NCOs in the US Military also play a large role on a strategic level as well. Providing vital information to Flag Officers and often becoming SMEs on verious topics. For example I was a Nuclear Weapons SME, and Russian SME.
      Flag officers can't know everything about everything, they don't have the time. They manage and delegate that responsibility to junior officers and enlisted in the US Military

    • @smokedbrisket3033
      @smokedbrisket3033 Рік тому

      @@Whitehalo117 spot on. Our squad leaders have more autonomy than a russian platoon commander, and are expected to demonstrate initiative and leadership. Same for the Brits, Canucks, Aussies, and probably Germans. Our officers rely heavily on their NCOs. Outside of militaries that formed out of the Westphalian traditions, this just isnt how it works.

    • @ryo0o0o88
      @ryo0o0o88 Рік тому +3

      The Navy has pilots? Jk

    • @omarb8655
      @omarb8655 Рік тому

      Russia have done longest intercept in history Air to Air at a range of 400KM with Su-27, the F15 or any US fighter wouldn't even have a chance to get near a Russian fighter to even have a chance to use it's missile or technology, Russia have best and longest Air to Air missiles with a variation of models at over 500KM distance since 2002 possible even 1000+KM by now at Hypersonic speed, US best Air to Air missile defense can be used at less than 140KM only, US fighters have 0 Chance against Russia long range hypersonic Air to Air missiles, type of plane or technology wouldn't even matter if the other fighter can destroy you from so far at Hypersonic speed. Plus Russia is making missiles now that are Hypersonic with Nuclear as fuel, no other country even has a missle that has a Uranium/Nuclear as rocket engine fuel, so the range is limitless by now. (Russia's Skyfall missile that can circle the earth for years with unlimited range!) + 9m730 burevestnik and others. The one that has better Air to Air missiles will win, forget about the fighter.

  • @monkeystank5241
    @monkeystank5241 10 місяців тому +4

    Keep it coming Max, I'm a retired Army paratrooper and love this stuff. You guys saved us more than once. Thank you guys.

  • @xSpcManSpiffx
    @xSpcManSpiffx 2 роки тому +324

    I was an F-22 Crew Chief out of Langley for 4 years. Such an incredible aircraft.

    • @GM-fh5jp
      @GM-fh5jp 2 роки тому +23

      Nice, that's some specialized skills right there.
      Respect.

    • @billiewright3577
      @billiewright3577 2 роки тому +11

      I lived in Virginia Beach and went to Langley atleast once a month just to watch the Raptors.

    • @bryanburrage9041
      @bryanburrage9041 2 роки тому +7

      1st FW - 27th FS/71st FS/94th FS. Back when it was TAC the wing had 3 combat squadrons.

    • @xSpcManSpiffx
      @xSpcManSpiffx 2 роки тому +4

      @@bryanburrage9041 I was at the 27th with MSgt. Pratt. Great group of guys.

    • @panacheautomotive4298
      @panacheautomotive4298 2 роки тому

      Crew Dog! 67th Fighter SQ, the Fighting Cocks Okinawa

  • @thr8061
    @thr8061 Рік тому +16

    I'm also an USAF vet from the 80s. No matter where an aircraft comes from, I can appreciate how it looks and flies.

    • @Mr_Fission
      @Mr_Fission Рік тому +1

      Former USAF here too, early 2000's. I loved putting together plastic jet models as a kid. F-14, F-111, A-10, F-16, and even a MiG-29, which I thought was a really great looking jet. I'll give Sukhoi one thing... their design language is really outstanding. The Felon is a beautiful aircraft. Wish I'd had one as a model for a kid.
      I mean a Raptor would eat it for breakfast in actual air combat. But it'd be cool to see one at an airshow, lol.

    • @qwertqwerty5764
      @qwertqwerty5764 Рік тому +3

      @@Mr_Fission Только реальный бой, покажет лучшего. Предположения ничего не стоят.

    • @wilsonsaka-san4316
      @wilsonsaka-san4316 11 місяців тому +1

      @@qwertqwerty5764 вот да, реального боя не было, да и раптор,емнип, в боях не участвовал, но уверенность в том, что но съест сухого на завтрак. От чего отталкиваются данные заявления?

    • @user-hg7hy8lv1m
      @user-hg7hy8lv1m Місяць тому

      ​@@Mr_Fission😂 Раптор подаваться а его пилот обделает штаны!

    • @Mr_Fission
      @Mr_Fission Місяць тому +1

      Maybe some day the Su-57 will see actual combat instead of being a princess that only gets out of bed for parades!
      Возможно, когда-нибудь Су-57 увидит настоящий бой, а не будет принцессой, которая встает с постели только на парады!

  • @nicholasclark5460
    @nicholasclark5460 2 роки тому +115

    My brother flew an A10 back when I was in high school. He told me that an f22 is basically the most technologically advanced piece of equipment the US has. They are truly awesome to see or hear if you are quick enough

    • @e.carroll6164
      @e.carroll6164 Рік тому +7

      First flight of the SR-71 was in 1964. If you think they just retired the SR-71 without a replacement, that seems non-sensical. Also, we know that the USA has stealth helicopters, 'cos they used them in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Also they have an unmanned mini space shuttle. F22 is not the most advanced piece of tech the USA has. I'd say the US SigInt capabilities are where it's really at.

    • @0megalul309
      @0megalul309 Рік тому +14

      most advanced tech usa shows to the public makes it more accurate. nda's exist for a reason.

    • @Mcpblackheart
      @Mcpblackheart Рік тому +3

      f22s are extremly loud . When i worked at a landfill near Andrews . i would think it was a F16 in after burners and it was just a f22 cruising by lol

    • @SpiralPowerGaming
      @SpiralPowerGaming Рік тому +1

      I mean there’s a reason there were so many UFO sightings… and it definitely isn’t aliens.

    • @Remsster
      @Remsster Рік тому +4

      @@e.carroll6164 SR-71 was basically replaced by satellites for its job. No constant refueling fleet needed and no chance to get shot down.

  • @justarandombird
    @justarandombird Рік тому +21

    Personally, i like both the f22 and the su-57 over the f35 and J-20. Both the su-57 and f22 look very sleek and manouvrable, almost like a leaf in the shape of a plane. I just wish to be able to see both planes from closeby some day in the future
    Edit: the stealth drone shown in the vid is called the S-70 Okhotnik. It's still fairly new from what ik and is still being tested and improved upon. (Pls feel free to correct me if i'm wrong tho)

    • @oscarshelukindo5823
      @oscarshelukindo5823 11 місяців тому +7

      I love the look of the SU-57 it just looks like a bad ass. That cobra 🐍 move waaaauuu!

    • @Hatethefake
      @Hatethefake 10 місяців тому

      Hey check the stats, the SU57 has proven nothing! The F15 is superior to anything Russia has and it’s fifty plus years old! 57 is not in the class of F35 or F22! Unreal stupidity!

    • @dragon_tamerak803
      @dragon_tamerak803 6 місяців тому

      the su-57 is shit

  • @jimollison5004
    @jimollison5004 2 роки тому +85

    Hey, great take on these two amazing jets! I’m simply an excited and supportive Dad who’s daughter is a maintainer for the f22! She loves her job and as one might imagine favors this jet over anything else! Thanks for an interesting look again! Definitely Subscribed.

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 роки тому +14

      Whoa! That’s cool. Big shout out to your daughter!

  • @ghimmy47
    @ghimmy47 Рік тому +64

    Maybe too long ago for folks to know, but 360 degree thrust vectoring was installed during F-22 development. USAF decided it wasn't worth the complexity. When you get old enough you'll remember stuff people don't know. Not always a good thing.

    • @javabeanz8549
      @javabeanz8549 Рік тому +6

      I have told a lot of college kids "I have already forgotten more than you have ever known"

    • @ms-terious
      @ms-terious Рік тому +5

      @@javabeanz8549 what an arrogant assumption.

    • @javabeanz8549
      @javabeanz8549 Рік тому +3

      @@ms-terious thanks!

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 Рік тому +3

      @@ms-terious I don’t know, I’ve met enough college educated individuals to know it’s a colossal waste of money. What’s that line from good will hunting? “You are gonna wake up in 50 years and realize you spent $150,000 on an education you could have gotten for a fucken $1.50 in late charges in the public library.” And from what I’ve seen there is a lot of truth to that statement. That line was written by a Harvard graduate btw (Matt Damon)

    • @ms-terious
      @ms-terious Рік тому +6

      @@reboundrides8132 You know, the funny thing about the premise that you and Java Beanz are positing is that it stems from the same ignorance and arrogance that you both claim to be calling out.
      Sure there are some individuals who leave higher education believing themselves better than those around them by virtue of their academic credentials, but there are also individuals who exhibit similar traits and dismiss academia as superfluous most likely due to issues relating to low self-esteem and unfulfilled aspirations.
      Such individuals either lacked the ability or resources to partake so now dismiss every student they meet as an imbecile lacking 'common sense' whilst, in their eyes, their life experiences and 'natural smarts' make them somehow special.
      In a nutshell there are individuals with overinflated senses of self worth on both sides of the fence.
      In some respects that quote rings true. There are a number of superfluous subjects taught at Higher educational establishments the world over that one could easily self teach.
      In the Movie Will is specifically talking to an individual studying what appears to be American Economic History, a subject one could reasonably 'teach' themselves.
      Will is also a Genius, something most people are not. What was portrayed as easy for him will not necessarily be the case for the vast majority of any given population. Most will require instruction.
      Does that mean Education is a 'waste of time' because there are a few individuals in the world who are able to competently self learn?
      I don't think so.
      Yes Damon attended Harvard.
      And?
      It is not where you go to school, but what you go to learn that matters I would argue. Damon Studied English and did not graduate.
      Could he have obtained the knowledge on offer in a public library?
      Probably.
      Then again his father was a Stockbroker and his mother a professor so his attendance at a prestigious institution was a near forgone conclusion considering the resources available to him at birth.
      Learning for learnigs sake is a commendable pursuit indeed, but isn't the reason most attend University. They attend to gain knowledge they can evidence and exploit in the labour market for higher rates of renumeration.
      For the most part this cannot be done with that which is 'self taught'. Some form of verification is usually required, often taking the form of a qualification award.
      There are alao certain subjects that cannot be "got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library" with any level of ease nor utilised without the correct training and proof of competency.
      Medicine or architecture for example.
      In some respects education can be a 'colossal waste of money' but it can also drastically increase one's earing potential depending on the field of study and where it is undertaken.
      I joined the Army at 16 with little in the way of qualifications. I utilised distance learning whilst serving to obtain a degree and post graduate qualification, continued my studies upon leaving the Army and now earn far more than I could have hoped to had I not taken such a route.
      Dismissing education is just as arrogant as dismissing those without it.

  • @papatomkaraoke
    @papatomkaraoke 5 місяців тому

    Love your channel Max as a former crew chief on T33, F4E, RF4C, A10 and F15A/B and E with 1.5hrs in the rear seat of the F15B I can truly appreciate your depth of knowledge. Having retired in 1991 your channel brings back old memories. Thanks for everything you do and keep it up.

  • @stefanlukic7272
    @stefanlukic7272 Рік тому +1

    This guy is so cool... Such charm and energy... I can hardly imagine him in a fighter jet,ready to deliver death to anyone. Thanks to his objectivity,absolutely the best video on the topic.

  • @FlywithMagnar
    @FlywithMagnar 2 роки тому +9

    Hi Ryan, thanks for a great presentation. You have a lot of enthusiasm and I really hope you get more subscribers!

  • @ericlawrence9729
    @ericlawrence9729 2 роки тому +5

    Great breakdown, love the Viper and Mudhen, thank you for your service and very excited about your channel.
    God Bless.

  • @Tracked350Z
    @Tracked350Z Рік тому +2

    Since you mentioned it, here's a story. A few years ago, I was Tdy at Nellis for Yellow Week and was on a B1 taxiing down the runway for an ops check. I was in the co-pilot seat of the B1 and we hear on the radio, "F22 Callsign", unrestricted climb up to 16k. Oh man, sitting there watching the F22 go smooth all the way up was absolutely the highlight of the trip.

  • @bobbwest
    @bobbwest Рік тому

    You are intense, but weirdly easy to listen to. Love your moly rich personality. Best of pilotall, knowing that you are a real deal fighter pilot gives genuine authenticity. All in all you ROCK Max Afterburner! Thanks for all your great vids. Keep on keepin’ on.

  • @RealzFoSho
    @RealzFoSho 2 роки тому +8

    Many videos talk stats. It was nice to see how you were looking at the planes.
    One of my biggest takeaways was the pilot visibility, both outside and instruments. Despite the idea that both of these aircraft's pilots should never see the enemy until they fly over its wreckage, it is neat to see that pilot perspective on visibility outside from the cockpit, how it isn't just about dogfighting. Then the center vs side control. If you have a plane designed to kill at a distance using technology, having part of your instrument view blocked by controls seems like somebody not really looking at the big picture when they designed the plane and the person buying it not really thinking about smaller things that could have been changed to make it a more effective aircraft.
    For the argument of which is better at a certain job, I think the flight time argument wins. Even if an aircraft might be superior on paper, have a pilot with a lot more experience in the plane itself makes up for quite a bit. Conflicts in the past 100 years have shown that a few times already, that pilot skill and experience has a big impact on outcome and can negate other advantages.

    • @korencek
      @korencek 9 місяців тому

      From what we've seen in Ukraine everyone claims it's the size of the radar. Russian modern planes were seeing 3 times further than Ukrainian, that's why ukraine never had a chance.

  • @shanebisme
    @shanebisme 2 роки тому +248

    SU-57 isn't actually "stealth tech" in the way the west uses the term "stealth". It simply has a lower RCS as compared to the SU-27 / Flanker series. It isn't in any way comparable to the F-22 or F-35 in terms of stealth tech. Nor was it intended to be. It is only meant to be comparable to the SU-27 / Flanker series. It's a big improvement over the Flankers, but in no way a match for the F-22 or F-35 in stealth or tech.

    • @hdelga5
      @hdelga5 2 роки тому +23

      cuz it's not really a "5th Gen" Fighter, 4+ at best

    • @ViolentKisses87
      @ViolentKisses87 2 роки тому +85

      It's its Gen 4++LGBTQ+

    • @TheSnarkyViking
      @TheSnarkyViking 2 роки тому +21

      @@ViolentKisses87 lol classic. You win the internet for the day

    • @hogginarmocount9562
      @hogginarmocount9562 2 роки тому +17

      😂😂😂
      Thats exactly why we didn't purchase it despite a LOT of pressure from Russia for the Indian airforce...

    • @wtywatoad
      @wtywatoad 2 роки тому +24

      @@ViolentKisses87 The optimal aircraft to perform airshows at Disney theme parks.

  • @DragoBoss
    @DragoBoss Рік тому +22

    The jet in the video is one of the prototypes, which is why the finish isn't that good and all those things are sticking out. The serial jets (5 delivered, 3 more being in final assembly) have a much smoother surface. There are comparison videos and pictures. Check it out.

    • @claudiomunoz471
      @claudiomunoz471 Рік тому +2

      Still a heap of trash compared to the Raptor

    • @A-speed
      @A-speed Рік тому +4

      @@claudiomunoz471 You could say that. And we can say that the Su-57 humiliates the raptor in almost all comparable parameters. Which is not surprising - Raptor took off in 1991, 30 years ago, and now it's just a bunch of old junk.

    • @ulrichkristensen4087
      @ulrichkristensen4087 Рік тому +1

      Well russians have always rivited their airframes, so unless they have built new Assembly lines, they will not be very good at stealth.

    • @A-speed
      @A-speed Рік тому +4

      @@ulrichkristensen4087 Thanks, I had fun. I've just looked at a photo of the F35, with cracks on the outer skin a foot long, and against the background of this miracle, your statements look even more fun.

    • @ulrichkristensen4087
      @ulrichkristensen4087 Рік тому

      @@A-speed ahh please 😂 nothing wrong with th F35, they are good, Su57 does not exist

  • @bradarmstrong5757
    @bradarmstrong5757 Рік тому +5

    We have to appreciate that both theses aircraft have hidden capabilities and unknown tactics.

    • @user-um9ml7gg4x
      @user-um9ml7gg4x Рік тому +1

      all the stealth of airplanes comes down to turning on your radar, after that you glow like a Christmas tree

  • @Jaden48108
    @Jaden48108 2 роки тому +43

    I remember early on during the testing phase of the F-22 when the least experienced pilot was put in the F-22 and six of the most experienced pilots were put in F-15s. The F-22 shot them all down (simulated of course). We don't really know what would happen if two opposition Gen 5 jets went against each other, but I'd put my money on the F-22 given your analysis. It comes down to radar signature with first look, first kill and how well the weapons work against stealthy aircraft.

    • @robertbaker3174
      @robertbaker3174 2 роки тому +6

      No 💩? My dad spent his career in defense ( contracts) and I got to hear some truth,not the B's spewed by the media. He said there were alot of intelligent people up in the Pentagon but I am concerned what has been happening in the last few decades.

    • @Jaden48108
      @Jaden48108 2 роки тому

      @@robertbaker3174 As you should. Leaders at the top seem to want "diversity" over readiness. ua-cam.com/video/R_vkbz6SO_0/v-deo.html

    • @prism8289
      @prism8289 2 роки тому

      Only a matter of time until systems are created to detect the stealth aircraft.

    • @thomasblankinship98
      @thomasblankinship98 2 роки тому +5

      @@prism8289 F22'S have been around since the 90's. Eventually someone will come up with a radar to detect it, but it will already have been replaced with something superior to it. Then everyone can then try to counter the new plane ! LOL

    • @chaseaaronthomasify
      @chaseaaronthomasify 2 роки тому

      That's called propaganda. Grow up

  • @iralosttwo5569
    @iralosttwo5569 2 роки тому +4

    I always figured that big glass ball in front of the canopy would increase the radar cross section like the device they put on the F-22 so it’s easier to see on radar during peace time flight.

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 Рік тому

    Cool Channel. Thank you for it and your service. (but be honest, "you're one lucky sob!" Thunderbirds? Wow, it doesn't get any better than that! Glad to see you were able to follow and achieve your life's passion in aviation. Pilots are a breed apart, and amazing people.)

  • @jjjdynamo4362
    @jjjdynamo4362 Рік тому

    Really enjoying the video, keep up the positive attitude!

  • @dgillies5420
    @dgillies5420 Рік тому +6

    The inspiration for the F-22 and other stealth aircraft was the episode of Star Trek, "Balance of Terror" due to the romulan cloaking device. A DARPA official saw the TV show and proposed a stealth aircraft program within DARPA ...

  • @richfinley6017
    @richfinley6017 2 роки тому +23

    F-22 2DCD nozzles are a major contribution to low rear quarter RCS and are mechanically simpler to trust vector. They provide more than just pitch. Differentially they have a strong roll moment. Yaw isn't quite as valuable, but differential power works pretty well.

    • @Battlenude
      @Battlenude Рік тому

      Differantional..? The Nozzles on F-22 moves in tandem in pitch. And ONLY in tandem. Felon has the same TVC control as the Indian MKI recieved back in 2004. So Russia Aviation Industry has now decades of expirience operating TVC by now

  • @markendicott6874
    @markendicott6874 9 місяців тому +2

    The SU-57 is so stealthy it only appears as a Swiss bank account on radar........

  • @markrobby7136
    @markrobby7136 5 місяців тому

    What a great guy! He does this review with joy and enthusiasm.

  • @Zaid0611
    @Zaid0611 2 роки тому +10

    F22 is a beast … it’s like an spaceship, definitely my favorite fighter… the paint works is just awesome … great work.. keep it up Be Jet Clean…. 👍

    • @slate4687
      @slate4687 2 роки тому

      In fact part of its technology is said to be reverse engineering from UFOs crashs

    • @lovecontemplation8607
      @lovecontemplation8607 2 роки тому

      And its successor is on its way for 2030.

    • @rameaseshaw3245
      @rameaseshaw3245 2 роки тому

      You can say that again (about the space ship). I was on the West end of that runway (same side where the radome could be seen off on the left) as a second for one of our METNAV guys who were doing some work on the ILS and I was laying on the hood of the truck looking up and a 22 just happened to be landing. No noise. At least I didn't hear any and that thing looks very, very alien when it flies overhead less than 500 feet.

    • @rameaseshaw3245
      @rameaseshaw3245 2 роки тому

      @@lovecontemplation8607 What fighter is that?

    • @scrubvision5652
      @scrubvision5652 2 роки тому

      @@lovecontemplation8607 so f22 will not be used in combact before its successor comes lol

  • @achillies40
    @achillies40 2 роки тому +4

    Both planes are absolutely gorgeous.

  • @RICKYCHAVEZ1980
    @RICKYCHAVEZ1980 Рік тому

    I liked the video and I also want to say that I thank you for your service. Thank you for doing your part in keeping our freedom secured. Much love from Lubbock, Texas.

  • @lukeatchinson9943
    @lukeatchinson9943 Рік тому

    Awesome videos man love your enthusiasm super fun and exciting to watch

  • @lexwaldez
    @lexwaldez 2 роки тому +10

    Hmmm one plane was actually produced in numbers, has spare parts, and has trained pilots. The other is seen at parades and air shows. One plane is combat ready and one plane is used as marketing material. F-22 vs SU-57? I think you know which is which.

    • @travisraplee6648
      @travisraplee6648 2 роки тому

      They took those videos with limited to fuel and almost no combat armament........meaning this won't be the performance in combat from the SU57

    • @johntack1049
      @johntack1049 2 роки тому +1

      And the clear winner is the A-10

    • @Man0War
      @Man0War Рік тому

      @@travisraplee6648 yeah the f22 isn’t allowed to fly at full capability at Public viewing either. So both planes are a mystery but I must say the f22 is more believable simply because it has had stories around it for decades, and it was actually produced.

    • @vinny3410
      @vinny3410 Рік тому

      @@johntack1049 no the a 10 sucks

  • @user-he4kc3oh9m
    @user-he4kc3oh9m Рік тому +3

    Скорость Су-57 в безфорсажном режиме = 2600 Км/ч Максимальная высота полета = 20000 м Вооружение: 30 мм Пулемет + 10000 Ракет и Бомб! Радары: 6 АФАР (2 АФАР + 4 РОФАР) + Информационно-Разведывательный Комплекс "Гималаи"+ Система РЭБ "Хибины" (Принцип Умной Обшивки)

    • @Dimatralala
      @Dimatralala Рік тому

      ппц бы такой в личное пользование)) без вооружения... на море летать по вечерам) хех

  • @flylippfantom8425
    @flylippfantom8425 Рік тому

    I'm lovin the energy of this guy, the knowledge... Awesome 👏

  • @rollingreene1220
    @rollingreene1220 Рік тому

    Really enjoy your channel - Great insight with your comparison

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 2 роки тому +110

    Good catch on the little bits on the felon adding to the RCS. I was watching an old documentary on the YF-23 and an engineer said rivets are like radar spotlights. Every tiny bump or protrusion seriously hurts stealth capabilities.

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 роки тому +15

      Good call, thanks for that!

    • @Podus81
      @Podus81 Рік тому +4

      Do they say the felon is stealth? I thought Russia didn't to concentrate on stealth aircraft.

    • @tolitsdterrible4785
      @tolitsdterrible4785 Рік тому +10

      @@Podus81
      They call it 5th generation. But one primary characteristic of 5th gen is stealth. So?

    • @amdintelxsniperx
      @amdintelxsniperx Рік тому

      @@tolitsdterrible4785 its like the f35 its semi stealth from what ive read

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 Рік тому +1

      @@Podus81 well stealth is like the main advantage of a fighter jet, “you can’t hit me if you can’t see me”

  • @CaptainXanax
    @CaptainXanax 2 роки тому +33

    The F-22 would take the SU-57 out to dinner, make it pay, take it home, have it's way with it, then never call it again.

    • @MetsMagic0416
      @MetsMagic0416 2 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀

    • @jamalihamilton7866
      @jamalihamilton7866 2 роки тому

      Lol

    • @MidnightAspec
      @MidnightAspec 2 роки тому

      😆

    • @diesirae8954
      @diesirae8954 2 роки тому +1

      Not in a dogfight. Lmao

    • @paddy3030
      @paddy3030 2 роки тому

      @@diesirae8954 5th gen don't dog fight. Also, if a fighter is close enough to warrant a cobra to evade, you're already dead.

  • @geeseylynn
    @geeseylynn Рік тому +1

    That thrust vector changed everything. Ingenious

  • @Watchandcutgearchannel
    @Watchandcutgearchannel 3 місяці тому

    Great video Ryan!!!!

  • @michaeltrent2726
    @michaeltrent2726 2 роки тому +8

    The F22 is in effect a 1980s designed craft. Some of us remember how crappy and slow the computers were back then. My take is that IF this is the best Russia can do to "improve" on such an old design they should just surrender now because there's a whole new generation coming soon from the Nevada desert

    • @thomasblankinship98
      @thomasblankinship98 2 роки тому +1

      It is a 1980's designed aircraft. It started production in the early 1990's. I heard rumors about it when I worked at Lockheed in the mid/late 80's.

    • @prism8289
      @prism8289 2 роки тому +1

      @@thomasblankinship98 of course, a lot of 1960s engineers with pencils, tsquares and slide rules could kick the ass of many engineers today. They had to THINK it out. After all, they stuck an aircraft on the moon and got it back.

    • @jeffreygunn3530
      @jeffreygunn3530 2 роки тому

      And the Su-57 was designed in the 1990s in Russia, which makes it equivalent to a 1980s American design, given that Russia is at least a decade behind the West on everything.

    • @thomasblankinship98
      @thomasblankinship98 2 роки тому +1

      @@jeffreygunn3530 well you know, they have to steal the plans and such. LOL

    • @Herskagu
      @Herskagu Рік тому

      @@jeffreygunn3530 Of course my friend! This is the truth, CNN you won't lie! We are very glad that you think so)

  • @jonathanstaley3883
    @jonathanstaley3883 2 роки тому +4

    Interesting thing I heard is that Sukoi designated it the 57 as a statement it’s as good as the F-22 and 35 put together.

  • @carsociety705
    @carsociety705 Рік тому

    I love the the fact you are not bias, I can see that you love the machines that's a A+ in my book! Love this video...

  • @chrisbrodbeck1961
    @chrisbrodbeck1961 Рік тому

    great video, the details are impressive, you did you're homework...thank you!

  • @fistpunder
    @fistpunder 2 роки тому +17

    Radarman: Sir... I see something on Radar.
    Commander: Looks like just a bird to me.
    Radarman: But this bird is flying at 800 knots, sir.

    • @harrier1249
      @harrier1249 2 роки тому +2

      🤣👍

    • @rameaseshaw3245
      @rameaseshaw3245 2 роки тому

      Yeah... cuz that is how radar works. A cross section the size of a bird doesn't get picked up. On the other end anything large enough to be classified as weather also gets blanked by the systems (explaining how radar didn't see the giant ships in "Independence Day"). When they say it has a cross section the size of a bird it is for reference not what can be seen on a radar screen. On the radar screen all targets that can be tracked are made to be the same size otherwise range increases radar return and would make a Cessna up-close as big or bigger than a 747 at 60 miles.

  • @karlknaddel6955
    @karlknaddel6955 Рік тому +3

    An interesting comparison. Many thanks for that. Starting at 6:45, a hazard symbol comes into view warning of ionizing radiation. There are several reasons why radioactive material could be present on a fighter aircraft. One possibility would be that a gun can fire kinetic energy cartridges with a heavy metal core made of a radioactive nuclide (compare A-10 Thunderbolt). This possibility is ruled out here because there is apparently no opening for a gun barrel in the surrounding surface. The more likely possibility would be radioactive components of the tactical airborne radar. Magnetrons and transmit/receive switches may contain radioactive material. However, since a magnetron does not have a significant frequency bandwidth, even the Russians probably would not put it on a top fighter. More likely is the presence of a traveling wave tube as a power component of the radar. However, this would also be a bit outdated and would not be expected in a contemporary top radar.

    • @wageslave387
      @wageslave387 Рік тому

      I am pretty sure in this case it is referring to generic microwave radiation. Those radars have a ton of power, and pilots sit right behind that all day. Microwave radiation does indeed cause cancer, despite what mainstream opinions claims. Lots of AWACS crew eventually wind up with rare cancers of bones and blood... All countries really need to do better to protect their pilots from this.

  • @marsel108
    @marsel108 9 місяців тому +1

    Both have their strengths and weaknesses but they are such beautiful jets.

  • @itz_me_kratos
    @itz_me_kratos 7 місяців тому

    An unbiased video like this is very rare to find

    • @downeedles9249
      @downeedles9249 15 днів тому

      He could be as there is still no Su57 to see, so compare both plane is like comparing a rat to god

  • @panacheautomotive4298
    @panacheautomotive4298 2 роки тому +36

    Our F15 in Okinawa would fly two sorties a day 7 days a week Russian Pilots are lucky to fly two sorties a month unless they're a high ranking demo pilot. That alone sets up a monumental difference in skill level.

    • @patewing5808
      @patewing5808 Рік тому

      what a nonsense , you writing BS

    • @bigstuff52
      @bigstuff52 Рік тому +5

      Panache...With Syria and Ukraine basically under their belt,you might want to reassess your statement..

    • @mark1778
      @mark1778 Рік тому

      @jsharp that's the point. Russian pilots don't fly enough the get proficient. On paper they have one of the best jets in the would but they can't get air supremacy over the skies in Ukraine.

    • @patewing5808
      @patewing5808 Рік тому +5

      @@mark1778 you expose yourself as real know less then nothing . There is rule better keep quiet about things you have zero clue . That is why Ukraine beging for more planes lol and even during war in Bosnia and Serbia Serbs had thousands flights during US air supremacy . Take into account size of Ukraine vs small Balkam countries

    • @mark1778
      @mark1778 Рік тому

      @pat Ewing I may know nothing. Its not like I fly missions several times a week in support of our NATO allies.

  • @jonbeaoneill7406
    @jonbeaoneill7406 Рік тому

    Just stumbled onto this video and I'm going to start deep diving your channel. What's your opinion of the future of the F-15 platform? I'm a lifelong F-16 and F-15, I've seen the Thunderbirds countless times since my dad took me as a small child and also have taken my own kids. Thanks for this video and the others I'm about to check out!

  • @bigdaddyjoosseee
    @bigdaddyjoosseee Рік тому

    How did I never think about jet pilot creators before? I guess it helps I just watched top gun 2. But only on YT can you see a fighter pilot do a vlog or give first hand input on things related to fighter jets and such. Amazing channel buddy just subbed!

  • @Aditi27
    @Aditi27 2 роки тому +22

    Ohh wow ! Loved that breakdown, what was the most appealing factor is that although it was very technical but it was explained in such simplified manner that anyone can easily grasp it. As far as having the license of creative thinking for flying a fighter jet goes I think Top Gun ( 1986 ) portrayed exactly the same. Maverick is a pilot who doesn't shy away from executing out of the box manuevers to lock on the target. If I was a given a choice though between F - 22 & Su - 57 , F- 22 would be my kinda ride, not just for its beast quality but also it just looks so elegant & captivating in the air, its love at first sight type aircraft. 😊

  • @Seneric
    @Seneric 2 роки тому +22

    The F-22 is superiour.
    The reasoning is simple.
    Russia has a LOT less money to spend on their military.
    So they design and pay for what makes sense.
    And that is an airplane that can dominate everything it is most likely to run into.
    For them, that would be the Rafale, the Eurofighter, F-16's and a handfull of NATO F-35's.
    The SU-57 can hold its own against all of those, especially when deployed over Russia with its massive anti-air defenses and radar network.
    NATO has zero F-22's if you exclude America.
    If Russia and the USA go to all out war, Russia will just go the nuclear route.
    So that war will never happen, which is why there is no point to try and defeat the F-22.

    • @travisraplee6648
      @travisraplee6648 2 роки тому +4

      Russia would shoot nukes because they know they would lose......like a kid pulling a gun in a clean fist fight, it's kinda sad actually.

    • @RyzeShib
      @RyzeShib 2 роки тому

      Damn the nukes.

    • @armanisim7791
      @armanisim7791 2 роки тому +3

      How can it dominate if they barely have any that are combat ready. Plus F-35s are stealthier.

    • @dabsafe
      @dabsafe 2 роки тому +1

      Russia has less money to spend because Putin and his pals have stolen most of it

    • @Seneric
      @Seneric 2 роки тому +5

      @@armanisim7791 because of their land based radar capabilities.
      The F-35 cannot penetrate thousands of miles without being detected because it does not have all aspect stealth the way the F 22 does.
      The US also found out the hard way how old shitty radar sites can still pick up stealth aircraft with just getting lucky during the war in Bosnia when they lost a Nighthawk stealth bomber.

  • @joedavis2932
    @joedavis2932 Рік тому

    I was Air force Intel . Did you ever think you would be giving Intel briefings? Lol
    I subscribed and look forward to your experience and great point of view.

  • @pirateradio8420
    @pirateradio8420 Рік тому

    Nice to see an F-15E pilot. I was an avionics technician at RAF Lakenheath back in the 1990's, and you show one of our squadron tails in your video, AF 91 309. I was a Mad Hatter.

    • @TheWabbitSeason
      @TheWabbitSeason Рік тому +1

      I was a linguist on the RC-135 at RAF Mildenhall in the 90s. I hated that Eagles chirp on approach to Lakenheath because it was right over my barracks.

    • @pirateradio8420
      @pirateradio8420 Рік тому

      @@TheWabbitSeason Yeah, I lived in tent city for months when we were deployed to Turkey. Hard to sleep through that.

    • @TheWabbitSeason
      @TheWabbitSeason Рік тому +1

      @@pirateradio8420 Yeah, we got used to it. Did a couple of months in PSAB's tent city and that was just loud 24/7 thanks to the AC (when it was actually working).

  • @sab6166
    @sab6166 2 роки тому +10

    It appears the back third of the SU-57 is exposed, thus making it a bigger target on radar and heat!

  • @jprules2578
    @jprules2578 Рік тому +10

    I think your analysis is spot on. As far as actual real world situations I always have thought many western pilots just have a hard time admitting truths or being able to accept that maybe some of those other Russian aircraft might just be quite capable, especially in the hands of a good pilot. I remember being at an Edward's AFB airshow around 90 or 91(yes the Thunderbirds were there😉, also an F-14D display smoked the 15 and 16 displays that day). Anyway, was talking to a slightly older test/research pilot there and asked him what he thought of the Su-27 Flanker. He referred to it as a lead sled. Now either he was ignorant, or thought I was, and would believe anything out of his mouth. I thanked him and walked away saying to myself, "that's bullshit."😏

    • @phildicks4721
      @phildicks4721 Рік тому +6

      I think I read in one of Chuck Yeager's book where there was discussions about which was better...the MIG-15 or Super Saber. Yeager told a pilot it would come down to pilot experience. Since they were test pilots at Edwards, they were able to fly both planes. Yeager and the other pilot flew two mock dogfights against each other, each pilot getting a chance to fly both planes. Yeager smoked the other pilot both times. Once in the MIG and once in the Super Saber. The other pilot had to admit that pilot experience did have to be taken into account.

    • @mikester1290
      @mikester1290 Рік тому

      Golden, but not in the way your mind thinks it is. Maybe do a bit of research into the Dunning Kreuger chaps hey.

  • @shalashaska5851
    @shalashaska5851 2 роки тому

    This dude is intense. Exactly how I imagine a fighter pilot!

  • @boiwonder2k
    @boiwonder2k Рік тому +1

    Great video. I would love to see a video like this with the F22 and the YF23.

  • @somethintoviewwithyou2876
    @somethintoviewwithyou2876 2 роки тому +3

    First time watching, great show! Can you do any on the Gripen E? I know Rafale is being adopted in larger numbers by multiple countries. Also, if you could do some on Israel versions of the F16-F15 families. They’re far different than most.

  • @glennm449
    @glennm449 Рік тому +3

    I was the guy who salvaged alien technology found at Roswell which was used to create the F22 decades later. Amazing aircraft

  • @ianmattair
    @ianmattair 5 місяців тому

    I once got an incentive ride in an f-15E (91st FS in AK) and I asked the pilot Fumes about that Top Gun maneuver too. He said he never saw the movie so I was like "hit the brakes and they fly right by", and he was like "yea that could work" and I was like "how have you never seen Top Gun dude".

  • @nelsonortas4796
    @nelsonortas4796 Рік тому

    Finally!!!!.... a REAL Top Gun Hero, talking military aviation ........I enjoy your enthusiasm and knowledge. More importantly, my family and I send you our warmest appreciation for your service.

  • @RSID
    @RSID Рік тому +8

    The Su-57's that are shown in most pictures and videos are commonly the T-50 prototypes. There are about 10 of them. Serial production versions are being supplied to the Russian air force at a slow pace (About 2-3 jets a year). Even these versions lack the main stealth supercruise engine, the Saturn Izdeliye 30's.

    • @arturrojek8034
      @arturrojek8034 Рік тому +1

      10??? No way, mby 5... its all on this time...

    • @vanbatim5906
      @vanbatim5906 Рік тому

      and this was before all of the sanctions. The Russian military depends on western technology (CPUs, etc) to build the advanced machines. That doesn't mean they can't get lower grade tech from China, but what is the cost to the planes performance?

  • @woodcutart
    @woodcutart 2 роки тому +11

    Thanks for discussing modern fighter planes. I've always loved fighter jets, from the F-4 Phantom to the F-14 Tomcat. Can you also discuss planes from other nations like the Eurofighter, Sukhoi Flankers or the Chinese jets (even the Swedish Saab jets, it must a matter of national pride to fly their jets)? I know most videos out there are hype reels, beauty shot videos or even propaganda videos, just want to get more detail or a pilot's perspective on these planes. Good luck to your channel.

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 роки тому +1

      Will do! Thanks 🙏

    • @mrblank-zh1xy
      @mrblank-zh1xy Рік тому

      @@MaxAfterburnerusa its great to hear from a real combat pilot. Exciting stuff, thanks!

  • @scottmacpherson6573
    @scottmacpherson6573 Рік тому

    I enjoyed that, Thanks!

  • @ryanhughes8620
    @ryanhughes8620 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video dude 👌👌

  • @ral3514
    @ral3514 2 роки тому +4

    I watched a flight simulation where this jet was flying into enemy territory, it was picked up by radar. The guy flying said it has a radar cross section of a bird, but a bird doing Mach 2. I'm talking about the su 57 btw

    • @Milvus_In_Excelsis
      @Milvus_In_Excelsis 2 роки тому +6

      The SU57 doesn't have the RCS of a bird.
      The F16 Viper has a lower RCS than the SU57.

    • @champnomnom7764
      @champnomnom7764 2 роки тому

      Yeah .05m cross section ain't nowhere near .0001

    • @ral3514
      @ral3514 2 роки тому

      @@champnomnom7764 does that mean that the flight simulation guy was wrong? I don't know what those numbers mean. I honestly know nothing about airplanes

    • @ral3514
      @ral3514 2 роки тому

      @@Milvus_In_Excelsis I was just repeating what the flight simulation guy said. Does that mean what he said was wrong?

    • @champnomnom7764
      @champnomnom7764 2 роки тому

      @@ral3514 no. It's the size of an absolutely massive bird. Like a shoebill lol. But Raptors cross section is like a bug

  • @leadlefthand
    @leadlefthand Рік тому +26

    Maverick shot down 2 of those with an F-14. The Tomcat is still the greatest fighter jet of all time ;)

  • @marcbow
    @marcbow Рік тому

    This was filmed at JBER, Anchorage Alaska. I was at the Arctic Thunder airshow the F-22 demo was debuted at. It was mind-blowing!

  • @darenputman6447
    @darenputman6447 Рік тому

    I can see you beaming with pride watching that Raptor, lol! Me too! Thanks for the breakdown!

  • @MrKKUT1984
    @MrKKUT1984 2 роки тому +3

    So what do you think about the airforce wanting to retire the f22? And the a10 for that matter? I think it's a dumb idea personally

    • @gunshow12
      @gunshow12 2 роки тому

      There retiring 30 non combat coded f 22 to save money and throw that 1.8 billion into ngad cause ngad will be online by 2030 and squadron of f22s will prob move to the aggressor squadrons for training the ngad and f35 pilots.. f22 will be around for another 10 or 20 years and a10 isn't going anywhere for a while

    • @MrKKUT1984
      @MrKKUT1984 2 роки тому

      @@gunshow12 you'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge here but what is the difference between combat coded and non combat coded? And why wouldn't all be combat coded to begin with?

  • @theonex9953
    @theonex9953 2 роки тому +4

    love that high frame rate scene :) and I'm on team RAPTOR

  • @shawnomack45
    @shawnomack45 Рік тому

    I have a tattoo of a blue angle on my right arm. I plan on getting a thunderbird on my left arm. Been going to airshows over 30 years. Love the channel keep up the great vids.

  • @justin6125
    @justin6125 5 місяців тому

    Every time he sees a high G move he puts his head back definitely muscle memory

  • @OoheavysackoO
    @OoheavysackoO 2 роки тому +4

    Funny that the whole time I was watching I was thinking if given the opportunity which one would I fly for fun and which would I choose to go to war with. My thoughts aligned perfectly with yours. Felon probably more maneuverable maybe bigger payload. Raptor more stealthy and meticulously maintained. End of the day, you would have a better chance coming home in the f-22. But that paint job on the felon lol.

    • @killingyouwithlogic5808
      @killingyouwithlogic5808 2 роки тому +1

      100% well said A lot of the Maneuvers They show off with the Felon are More air show not so much useful in combat! F-22 maneuverability is classified they do not let the pilots do some of the secret maneuver's kind of crazy!

    • @studiobauhaus7740
      @studiobauhaus7740 Рік тому

      @@killingyouwithlogic5808 but the Su57 3d thrust vectoring means the F22 cannot outmaneuver it in any way.

    • @killingyouwithlogic5808
      @killingyouwithlogic5808 Рік тому

      @@studiobauhaus7740 That Does not mean that at all in any way but ok. And I am not wasting my breath or time on Arguing over A jet that that there is only between three and 15 of like who cares anyways they would be gone erased There is not even enough of them to matter in reality. But so you know the 3d thrust vectoring doesn't mean it auto out maneuvers F-22 Has up and down thrust vectoring and really is all that is needed anyways Just saying. And I mean useful maneuvers not the stupid ass air show tricks the Russians love so much that do not work in reality in combat!

    • @studiobauhaus7740
      @studiobauhaus7740 Рік тому

      @@killingyouwithlogic5808 Haha who cares if there are only 3 of them? If there was just one with an Ace pilot and it has 3d thrust vectoring and you dont then you are in trouble. air show maneuvers are useful maneuvers. You need to first learn the air show maneuvers and tricks cause im going to do an air show trick to shoot your ass down if I can.

    • @killingyouwithlogic5808
      @killingyouwithlogic5808 Рік тому

      @@studiobauhaus7740 And you sir are a complete idiot who has 0 clue what the f--k he is talking about! the Air show Tricks are not BFM or any other form of useful Combat maneuvers so you can sit here Suck Russia's Dick all you want it's all BS and What Ace Pilots does Russia even have please let me know because Pretty sure There isn't any active-duty aces! Also, Numb nuts falling leaf and cobra maneuver are not useful in real combat do not care what you say they are known to be not useful combat maneuvers. and If I was going to kill your dumb a$$ in a su-57 and I was in A F-22 you would already be dead before you even knew I was firing at you so please rest your neck and stop slobbing Putin's dick!

  • @spencer.h561
    @spencer.h561 Рік тому +23

    I personally believe that the Su-57 is the superior fighter due to better thrust vectoring and manoeuvrability. F22 may have better stealth but that doesn't mean the Su 57 doesn't have good stealth. The felon also has has much better radar having six onboard radars as opposed to the raptors singular one, The felon also carries missiles with longer range than the raptor and can cruise at a much higher altitude, this meaning in a head on engagement the SU-57 can probably lock and fire before the F22.

    • @FahQx
      @FahQx Рік тому +11

      of course it is, but you'll never ever hear a US pilot say that lol

    • @A-speed
      @A-speed Рік тому

      @@FahQx They said that their planes were cooler even after the Indians on the Su-30 were torn to shreds at joint exercises. And they themselves can't do anything about it, so who will allow them to tell the truth in a brutally controlled and censored totalitarian American society?

    • @jdluntjr76226
      @jdluntjr76226 Рік тому

      Yea - the SU 57 is overrated just like everything else the Russians make - exhibit A Ukraine

    • @lunotarr
      @lunotarr Рік тому +2

      I bought su-57 scale model and now assembling it. Also reading everything I could find about. As I can assume the f-22 is supposed to stealthy come, precisely hit and run. The felon was designed as a heavy fighter-bomber, capable to carry air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles. F-22 is designed to be less visible on the radars, the felon is relying on his radio-jamming device.
      Two different conceptions, two different purposes. Thus, it is complicated to say who will be the winner in dogfight.
      Hope my English level is enough for you to understand)

    • @A-speed
      @A-speed Рік тому +5

      @@lunotarr The first moment. The Su-57 was never created as a fighter-bomber. This is, according to Russian terminology, an aircraft for gaining air supremacy. Its main targets are aerial, although initially it provides for the possibility of attacking ground targets, which was the weak point of the F22.
      The second point is that the presence of a powerful jamming system does not contradict low visibility in any way. And the fact that the F22 does not have this system is not an advantage, it is a disadvantage. As well as the lack of a developed optical detection system, the absence of multi-band radars - all this is what the Su-57 has and the F22 does not have. These are not different concepts - they are different levels of technological development and technical capabilities. The F22 is just outdated, it took off more than 30 years ago. The Su-57 is a further development of fighter aviation, naturally, it is much more technically advanced compared to the F22. Frankly speaking, this is just an unequal comparison - it's like comparing a modern soldier armed with an assault rifle and a musketeer of the 17th century. The F22 is already outdated, its further development is impossible - whereas the systems and components of 6th generation fighters are being actively tested on the Su-57.

  • @GaryJackson
    @GaryJackson Рік тому

    Great job Ryan.

  • @ruslantito2337
    @ruslantito2337 Рік тому

    U.S. - a country that gained in World War I, World War II, lost its rival in '91
    Russia - a country that had a revolution in 17, fought a civil war until 21, spent the next years industrializing, suffered major losses in World War II and self-destructed in '91
    the fact that there are such planes is still amazing

  • @DukeMarenge
    @DukeMarenge 2 роки тому +18

    One thing I noticed. With the pilots of the SU57, their helmets seem to be similar to the older kind used by other Russian pilots where it appears with the F22 and F35 a new type of helmet was needed in order to implement its new systems. Aside from the stealth design of the SU57, are most of the systems in the SU fighter mainly legacy type of avionics and targeting systems? Or do they have new technologies similar to the ones used in F22 and F35?

    • @Ungovernable_Schizo
      @Ungovernable_Schizo 2 роки тому +5

      Im pretty sure one of those F35 helmets are custom fit to each individual pilot and are worth over 400k

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 2 роки тому +5

      The sensors on the SU-57 are probably closer to the F-14 or early F-16s. Even the idea of designing a new aircraft for dog fighting looks like the buyer knows little about modern warfare. Like other Russian aircraft, there is no networking with their version of Link-16.
      Also the F-22 doesn't have sensors and relies on an AWAC to provide targeting data. The F-22 came before AESA radar on aircraft. Older radar could be detected allowing passive radar to track and then a HARM to destroy the F-22.

    • @bariole
      @bariole 2 роки тому +7

      @@orlock20 literally the internet is full of pictures of SU-57 sensors. It's sensors suite is comparable to F35, even more ambitious in some aspects, and vastly superior to F22 which is at this point 30 years old. Yeah Russians usually lag in sophisticated electronics but not like 50 years.

    • @agera.rs7
      @agera.rs7 2 роки тому +11

      @@bariole these americans really think they know everything about this plane just because they saw some propaganda. It is highly classified. Worst mistake you can make is underestimate your oponent...k

    • @OoheavysackoO
      @OoheavysackoO 2 роки тому +3

      22 doesn't have helmet mount target acquisition (reason being I think it's supposed to be in the role of directing others not getting into fight as much) 35 does as does 18, not sure about the rest.

  • @GopherM
    @GopherM Рік тому +10

    With reference to the RCS you briefly mention the engines and the first time I saw an image of the SU-57 all I could think of is what a huge target those things would make to a radar. The turkey feathers might suppress the heat signature, but once they start flexing, the also add to the radar signature. In many aircraft with sophisticated engine management systems, the turkey feather deployment is controlled by a computer that assesses performance needs and may cause them to deploy when it would be a great disadvantage. I agree that the SU-57 is a very sexy machine, but I think both the F-22 and the F-35 offer a lot more combat advantages, esp-especially when the interoperability capabilities are factored in.

    • @Ivan-hh1ed
      @Ivan-hh1ed Рік тому +1

      The F35 when they can fly

    • @yo-ry1np
      @yo-ry1np Рік тому

      All Russian fighters appear to be bigger than us ones. They think that is good. Well I don't believe bigger is better for so many reasons but it makes me upset recently rt news claimed in retaliation for us attack on their troops they shot down 5 us fighters. Maybe I misunderstood. But if that would have happened. I shudder to think real consequences of such an event.

  • @neodecker
    @neodecker 10 місяців тому

    When I was a kid the Russians came to the Oklahoma City air show. During the show there was a mock interception that was supposed to be with 2 F-15s, but one had a tire issue so they sent up and F-14. Before take-off they said unrestricted climb. Both fighters took off side by side, but about halfway down the runway the Tomcat pulls up, the wings go back and it's off. It was the most amazing thing I had ever seen.

  • @MrZlocktar
    @MrZlocktar Рік тому +2

    Su-57 have 10 prototype versions and only 4 serial versions which are all in service right now and in use as well. The front RCS is the same as F-22 or F-35 with no difference. Difference comes into play only with RCS from behind. That's because Russian way of aviation construction have a very different approach and understanding of concept of air combat. This is why they put big emphasis on it's maneuverability for professional Piloting factor to kick in while it will be in real combat.
    However, that's where the most intriguing part comes into play. Su-57 is the only jet in world with additional EW protection from IR and guided missiles from ground to air and air to air missiles and have additional countermeasure systems on it's tail to intercept incoming fire. Sort of like Vitebsk EW system but more advanced and specifically designed for this jet. So in turn, su-57 is stealth enough to attack first, but on it's way back, it is more vulnerable to radars which is why it have Vitebsk like system on board to compensate for it. Extra maneuverability is important in Russian doctrine. And there is a reason for it.
    We already have radars today which are able to see even jets like F-22 F-35 Su-57 and all of them. And Russia understands that this technology will evolve even more. So Russia in advance not compromising 5th gen fighter for a false idea of stealth concept to stay viable for a long time, because it's not gonna last long. They instead making Su-57 to withstand this evolution to never worried about creating next evolution fighter. So in future when actual gen 5th stealth concept will be dead in a water, Russia will still have a vast superior jet fighter with extreme maneuverability and EW defense grid on board.
    I would also emphasis on the fact that today Su-57 is the first and only 5th gen fighter that being used in real modern warfare. Others never been in combat. It's simple fact. Yet so important.

  • @cfrasier1419
    @cfrasier1419 2 роки тому +4

    The F-22 looks like a piece of heaven. She is beautiful.

  • @thew-heat5525
    @thew-heat5525 2 роки тому +13

    Jet Clean, This was a great explanation of Russian aerospace engineering capabilities and the quirkiness of certain aerodynamic concepts.
    The SU-57 in preliminary test in 2018 did not do well at all. Right now the current Block SU-57M is on par with the Chines J-20, but neither of these platforms are true stealth. Now you know our USAF F-22 looks other- earthly almost space ship like, and is scary in a good way most of the capabilities are still classified, and right fully so. The F-22 is absolutely DOMINATING in the Arial battel space most of the time a hostile has no idea the F-22 is near until its to late. However I agree with you I would want to fly the SU-57 as well the look of this jet is completely sexy.

    • @TheHalcyonAnon
      @TheHalcyonAnon 2 роки тому +1

      SU 57 looks like a low tech version of the black widow

    • @mhanke1
      @mhanke1 2 роки тому +1

      I assume the better plane is that actually present on the battlefield. It is of no use having the best plane of all, if it is not available.

    • @diesirae8954
      @diesirae8954 2 роки тому +5

      99% of the info about the Su-57 is classified.

  • @kibo_nbgd
    @kibo_nbgd Рік тому +1

    Buddy. . . In my opinion, both planes are timeless in terms of appearance and characteristics. I love Russian planes, but the F-22 and that matte paint uffffffff. . . Badass, but both, I simply can't say which one is better for me, one always has something that I would take away from one and then add to the other! Both aircraft are simply BRUTAL !!!

  • @andrewhowell5937
    @andrewhowell5937 11 місяців тому

    Man you are one cool dude and very knowledgeable !

  • @wannabeangler
    @wannabeangler 2 роки тому +4

    My buddy retired from flying the F22 and he said that he encountered a SU57 over Alaska more than once. He called that bird a "pig"! He said the 22 was a force not to even consider messing with. On one occasion he fly up behind a 57, got above him, and showed his belly with full arms. The 57 boogied back to Russia.

    • @yesac101
      @yesac101 Рік тому

      no offense but your buddy is full of shit for one there are only 6x su-57 that have been turned over to the Russian military at this point and the first was delivered barely over a year ago not to mention it was delivered too the Southern Military District all of them were nowhere near Alaska he could have seen an su-27 or one of its variants but there is basically zero chance he saw a SU-57 near Alaska

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 Рік тому +1

      @Ruslan Masinjila there are actual videos of these encounters. Russia tries to probe everyone’s air space to see if they are telling the truth about the security abilities. We always are. I don’t know how many times they need to be reminded that just about everyone on this planet is more competent than them.

    • @ast1897
      @ast1897 Рік тому

      His belly with full arms? They typically carry everything inside their belly!

    • @wannabeangler
      @wannabeangler Рік тому

      @@ast1897 belly is internal, yes.

  • @jasonknight1085
    @jasonknight1085 2 роки тому +3

    A lot of pilots I know refer to the SU57 as "The Mullet". Because it's business in the front and party in the back.
    The things you noted that violate stealth guidelines are just the tip of the iceberg. The whole geometry is wrong for that, but worse from behind it's got squat. It doesn't even TRY to be stealthy at anything but forward aspect. Again, it's a mullet.

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 роки тому

      😆 so good

    • @diegoapalategui579
      @diegoapalategui579 2 роки тому

      100%

    • @dimitrisgregan553
      @dimitrisgregan553 Рік тому

      Always bragging you mericans,let us see you first in a war with the a real enemy and not flip flop peasants with aks who btw humiliated you in afganistan,i remember the f117 was droped down from a russian sam of the 50s,now imagine this buckets you have against this monsterua-cam.com/video/4jYNgoeelGg/v-deo.html

  • @geeseylynn
    @geeseylynn Рік тому

    Amazing that it is still able to function

  • @kassenz
    @kassenz Рік тому

    I think its great you identify yourselve, because this is the first time I've seen one of your videos.
    Hello from SeaTac runway
    Great job!

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  Рік тому

      Yo! Can’t wait to fly in there again soon! Glad you’re here 👍

  • @generalsirc2615
    @generalsirc2615 2 роки тому +14

    Those rivets on the SU 57 really shocked me! The planes stealth I think is minimal, there are too many parts sticking out and rivets for it to be stealthy.

    • @TheNicestPig
      @TheNicestPig Рік тому +5

      Rivets are on all the test/prototype models. On the production ones the Felon is smooth.

    • @austinlancaster7982
      @austinlancaster7982 Рік тому +2

      @@TheNicestPig riiiiiiight

    • @elitewolverine
      @elitewolverine Рік тому +1

      @@TheNicestPig the cockpit panel gap alone will light it up like a christmas tree

    • @jorritvanderkooi939
      @jorritvanderkooi939 Рік тому

      @@TheNicestPig what production ones? None have been produced

    • @TheNicestPig
      @TheNicestPig Рік тому +1

      @@jorritvanderkooi939 the first production Su-57 was delivered to the RuAF 2 years ago.

  • @brycejensen5201
    @brycejensen5201 Рік тому +11

    Great video! It's quite difficult to find research and facts about the SU-57 with it being so new. One observation is most of this su-57 footage is of a prototype and not a serialized aircraft. It's just a demonstrator, and not the final aircraft.
    See 0:40 into this video - ua-cam.com/video/aNBmHmsDWB4/v-deo.html where they show one of the first serial production aircrafts. As you can see it is much smoother than the prototype which was rumored to even have plastic for parts of the skin. The YF-22, which was the prototype for the F-22 of course, was also not nearly as smooth as the finished product.
    Keep in mind that Radar technologies are advancing as fast as if not faster than stealth technologies. The su-57 is in fact equipped with 5 radar antennae, and operates both X-band and L-band radar. This does not give it the exact location of a stealth aircraft, and not enough for a lock, but it is enough to define the rough area where a stealth plane might be.
    Sources are difficult to get, especially with the SU-57 being so new. Check out this video - ua-cam.com/video/Zx72iWuFJC8/v-deo.html if you want to learn as much as there is on the internet for the current progress of the Felon.
    As a former pilot you brought in some new perspectives especially dealing with the cockpit and controls. Thanks again for making the video.

  • @RnjSoloLETSDOIT
    @RnjSoloLETSDOIT Рік тому +1

    *#BRAINS** AND **#MAD** **#SKILLS** ARE ALL IT TAKES TO BE AN **#ELITE** **#FIGHTER** **#PILOT**... AND I HAVE **#NONE**.*
    *#KUDOS** TO THE **#BRAVE** **#MEN** AND **#WOMEN**... FIGHTER PILOTS IN OUR **#UNITED** **#STATES** ARMED FORCES, **#THANK** **#YOU**.*

  • @chollythecrazycorgihesinsa6505
    @chollythecrazycorgihesinsa6505 2 роки тому

    Always learn a ton from your videos!